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Bishop Daniel Dolan on the day of his episcopal consecration, November 30, 1993

RIP
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Iconic
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Not exactly Catholic (but a weird offshoot) but very cool looking.
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>>17339710
>>17339712
>ferraiola (clerical cape)

Always was a favorite iconic part of the formal (but non-choir) clerical garb worn over the house cassock for formal (extra-liturgical) occasions, receptions both civil and ecclesiastical.


"The ferraiolo is a type of cape traditionally worn by clergy in the Roman Catholic Church on formal, non-liturgical occasions. It can be worn over the shoulders, or behind them, extends in length to the ankles, is tied in a bow by narrow strips of cloth at the front, and does not have any 'trim' or piping on it". >Wikipedia
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>>17339899
Bishop Fulton Sheen's looks very iconic here in picrel. The clerical cape makes everything look so much cooler and so majestic.
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>"The Young Pope"
>Jude Law

Triple Tiara and papal mantum
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>>17340795
Pope Pius XIII for Pope!
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why do they all wear silk and gold when Jesus was walking the earth in tattered robes?
do they think they are better than the lord himself?
why do they display immense wealth when Christ said thag it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God?
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>>17342389
Because it’s cool and like it or not being cool is a huge part of attracting people to your religion
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>>17342415
you think all those starving kids in Africa think its cool when they see their local bishop wearing clothes worth more than their life?
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>>17342420
the catholic church is the largest non gov charity and does tons of work in africa and helps them, what hurts africans is financial money and feed them with food
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>>17342389
here is another non christian who doesent read theology, history, or ontology and preforms eisegesis on a whole religion. just stop posting
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>>17342389
>>17342420
Matthew 26:11
>"For ye have the poor always with you; but Me ye have not always", said the Lord Himself.

Tired Protestant - Secularist - Masonic tropes about ecclesiastical wealth and privilege, and the fantasy that if The Church is materially poor, poverty will magically vanish from face of Earth.

Do not make of the poor a cynical instrument for your hidden agenda to undermine the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
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>>17342562
unbelievably based
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silk brocade chape and chasuble
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>>17342570
yeah ikr self-righteous protties
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>>17343630

This is how they sound to me:

>Nooooooo don't look cool or have cool looking churches! It's bad and against Christ!

>It's perfectly fine to charge these outrageous interest rates. The economy is the most important thing not actual morals. Let's just make as much money as possible and the losers should be screwed.
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>>17342562
>According to your own faith, isn't X a bit hypocritical?
>Alhamdilullah bismillah pbuh pbut! This CIA agent is trying to undermine my faith!
every time
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>>17343963
It's not hypocritical because OT priests also dressed specially. Picrel
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>>17342562
They'd rather people dress in bland suit and ties and have a church stripped of all beauty that reminds us of heaven.
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>>17344285
To the Protestants, there is no Christian Sacerdotal priesthood (similar to the OT priesthood of The Temple in Jerusalem), because according to Protestants (and ***Antipope Francis who loves to kneel and wash feet rather than engage in Adoration of the Host***), the Last Supper was not the establishment of a new Eternal Sacrifice, New Covenant, and new Priesthood offering His Body and Blood of Calvary prefigured in the Cenacle and at Mass.
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Oh this is the corruption/pedophile/in bed with mafia and all sort of Freemason shit thread?
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>>17344939

>Prots don't molest kids
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>>17344964
Oh that’s right you Amish gent you like to molest animals…my apologies.
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>>17344964
>prots don't molest kids

t. Jim Baaker
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>>17344964
Protestant is a pretty broad term and your claim is also not true.

The Australian Anglican Church had a huge scandal.
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>>17345939
exactly protties are dirty reprobate fuckers kek
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>>17344939
yeah all of above
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>>17339710
The drip is immaculate (pun intended)
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>>17344939
so cute and close too <3
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None of you will ever be this chad
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>>17342420
Unironically yes. Leftists and prots can whinge all they want, the majesty of His church brings people to God.
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>>17347789
true this and symbolic prestige of Christ's Holy Church and her rites are beyond estimation
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>>17347789
Vatican is worth like 30 bil….
1% is maybe 10 million.
Imagine the kids they could feed in all those unfortunate 3 world countries - where kids die of actual hunger) Add another % and they have clean water too in MANY places….And if they started this it won’t be long before other ghastly orgs with too much money would contribute just for the credit and therefore more support.
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>>17348284
Christ's Holy Catholic Church is the Kingdom of God on Earth and she is a perfect society both fully human and divine, like Jesus Christian Himself.

Her divine mission is the propagate the Faith by going out and making disciples of all nations and peoples. The Church's mission is primarily salvific and spiritual.

The Corporal Works of Mercy (e.g., feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the prisoner, et cet.) are secondary to her Redemptive and Sacramental purpose.

The Church is not Oxfam, UNHCR or the CICR/ICRC, although she does also minister in these areas.

You have a completely secularist humanist materialist viewpoint of the modern atheist.

The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Christ is not an NGO.
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>>17347594
eastern orthodoxy is filled with the biggest and most corrupt giga niggers that suck up to politicians ever in eastern europe at least, maybe greeks are more based idk
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>>17348284
The Catholic Church is the largest non-government provider of health care services in the world. It has around 18,000 clinics, 16,000 homes for the elderly and those with special needs, and 5,500 hospitals, with 65 percent of them located in developing countries. In 2010, the Church's Pontifical Council for the Pastoral Care of Health Care Workers said that the Church manages 26% of the world's health care facilities.
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>>17348551
interesting data and stats anon
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>>17348551
I’m not gonna fact check you but I sure hope at least 30% of those donations go somewhere useful.
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>>17348717
>useful

in today's modernist vatican
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>>17342261
How do you even tie one of those sashes?
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>>17349245
>>17342261

+1 wana know too
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Miami fit Father Rafael Capó poses with a statue of Arnold Schwarzenegger. ^
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>>17342389
Protestant moment
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>>17350400
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>>17350400
God bless Archbishop Thuc
Defender of the faith
RIP
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>>17342389
>Why wasn’t this perfume sold for three hundred denarii and the money given to the poor?
Judas moment
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Can someone post robes like pic related
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>>17350462
>Judas mindset
very based scriptural citation to back your point
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>>17350487
>Saint Ambrose barring Theodosius from Milan Cathedral

Sir A. van Dyck
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>>17342389
When Jesus comes back he won't be wearing a tattered robe
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This thread is the most retarded thing ever
Catholic priests are literally pedophiles, and thee is a longstanding tradition in the church of protecting the priest rather than the child whenever an accusation of sexual abuse comes in.
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>>17350807
priests are celibate spiritual fathers and mentors to faithful, men women and families amen
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>>17350785
BASED AND CHRISTPILLED
Repent y'all, the second coming is on the way
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>>17350807
VADE RETRO SATANA
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>>17350785
>>17350814
+1 christ bros
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>>17350807
Its a big problem the Pedophiles in the Catholic Church. And the fact that they are force to be celibate to practice isn´t biblical. But In To make it fair you need to put it in comparison to other religions and intuitions.
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Pederasty is not the problem; societal norms are the problem. The "victims of pedophiles" have been brainwashed into the victim frame of mind.
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>>17351564
The issue is the 1960s mentality and the idea that you go to therapy instead of getting punished. This is Bishop Sanborn's take on it in picrel. If you make people fear hell or punishment for doing it, they do it less. It's that simple.
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>>17351566
Please expand on your statement with historical references to back your position regarding shifting socio-cultural norms regarding pederasty. Very fascinating.
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>>17350487
The robe - vestment in picrel is a black and gold silk damask *cope* or *pluvium* with gold orphrys in Renaissance Medici pattern. Black is more rare liturgical color after Vatican Ii "reforms" in 1960s, (only for funerals and requiem mass). So hardnto find exactly similar pic.

Closest pics I could find are attached.
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>>17351729
High Anglican style cope
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>>17351729
Are these the type of black vestments you're looking for? Picrel
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>>17351729
>>17351936
thanks you for irl posting of black Roman vestments used liturgically at mass
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>>17351990
This group rejects Vatican II and modernist changes implemented in late Vatican I like the 40s and 50s so this is why they look so traditional.
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>>17352005
Which editio typica version of Missale Romanum does this group use?
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>>17350487
Similar but next-level cope = Papal Mantum
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Fedora+Preists attire+Gun. Simple yet effective.
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>>17352265
Who is this?
now this has drip
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>>17352432
Andras Kun. A hungarian Catholic preist who decided to join a Arrow Cross Party(hungarian Fascists) and became the commander of an Anti-Semitic death squad which then mutunied from the party and Bassicaly ruled Budapest for 3 months. He is responsible for abaut 3000 deaths. Fun Guy.
https://youtu.be/HFkVh6pYMSk?t=167
Here is him giving orders
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>>17352265
>>17352468
robes of Hungarian Franciscan friar drippy ngl
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>>17352432
Hungarian WW2 nationalist partisan I think and maybe related to Bela Kun?
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>>17351564
good point
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>>17353733
Any thoughts on these words from Bishop Sanborn on the sexual abuse scandal?:

Having made these self-damning admissions, he attempts to excuse the Roman “authorities” by claiming that the complex criminal code of the 1983 (Novus Ordo) Code of Canon Law made it impossible to remove these priests who abused young persons. This is a positively ludicrous excuse. It is a shameless sham and an insult to any thinking and decent person. It would be the equivalent of saying, “Stalin was incapable of stopping the slaughter of millions of people because the laws on the books made it almost impossible for him to prosecute the perpetrators.” You might get away with this excuse in a republican form of government, where there is separation of powers, but you cannot seriously say this in the case of a monarchy or dictatorship. John Paul II — the “saint” — could have, with a single stroke of the pen, put a stop to any legal barriers. He could have defrocked priests and deposed bishops by means of a mere telegram or telephone call.

Ratzinger also offers the excuse that the Vatican bureaucracy was overwhelmed by the cases of abuse. This again is no excuse, since the accused could have been easily removed from priestly service while their case was being processed. In that way, the wicked practice of moving them around from parish to parish, where they abused again and again, could have been avoided.

Ratzinger asks the rhetorical question: “Why did pedophilia reach such proportions?” Ratzinger’s answer: “Ultimately, the reason is the absence of God.” The real reason: The godless, faithless, disgustingly selfish, and perverted Novus Ordo clergy who profited from the respect and admiration that innocent young persons had for the Catholic clergy in order to perform upon them acts which make you want to vomit.
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>>17353762
noted and probably sadly true
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>>17353762
political and institutional inertia and fear of learning the true extent of the issue now revealing itself in digital age of social media

the satanic hate of modern secular society for God makes the travails of Church heavy
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>>17354897
How would you have handled it?
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>>17354959
Very complex issue and the secular vengeance / solutions apparent today do not take into account changing socio-cultural mores over expanse of history.

Presentism is an issue rife and oppressive in so many societal domains globally.
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>>17339710
good thread OP, have a (you)
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>>17354897
yes yes, satan hates the good modern secular society, and thus shows itself as the lord of lies leading good people astray with heresy like sedevacantism
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>>17354984
>lord of lies leading good people ----> sedevacantism
>"good modern secular society"

Are you unironically bipolar or do you just have a salty bitter humor and character?
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>>17353762
>Vatican 2 papal gold-watch scenario
>canonization factory post-V2 esp for holy popes of The Council
One aspect of the post-Vatican II Novus Ordo Church I truly revile is the "Pantheon of (automatically canonized) Popes" following Pius XII. The cynical use (and cheapening) of "Sainthood" to advance the ecclesiastical political agenda after Vatican II is beyond repulsive and I never refer to these popes as saints.

Prior to V2: last canonized Popes were St. Pius X and St. Pius V: true titanic heroes of the Church.

The flagrant and cynical use of Canonization is so obvious to all Catholics.
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>>17355019
This is their ultimate agenda, to cement Vatican II into forever being considered legitimate by using sainthood as a participation trophy. They want to pull the whole "You don't want to insult a saint now do you?" scheme.
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>>17355007
No, I am just aware of how things work. Sedevacantists are resentful idiots at best, forever denied their participation trophy
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>>17355111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiN69bEDv-Y&t=1134s

Why should Fr. Cekada not have wanted the superiority of what he experienced in childhood to continue instead of the idiocy that came afterwards?
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>>17354984
>Be American Catholic child before Vatican II
>Love what you experience very much and wish for it to continue forever
>Be in an America where conservative Catholics censored the media
>Vatican II steps in and ruins your childhood and makes the faith all hippie and devoid of reverence.
>See faithlessness, liturgy, morals, and doctrine all ruined.
>Try to get trained as priest
>Hate the modernism you see in seminary
>Go to get trained by SSPX and even see some modernism there.
>Conflict with French in SSPX because they cared more about Vatican politics than doctrine and didn't care about looking things up like the American priests.
>Adopt Sedevacantism
>Now SSPX wants to negotiate with the Vatican and do things like annul marriages and change the Mass.
>See writing on wall and write the letter of the Nine priests saying you don't want negotiations with the Vatican to change the faith......

I see them as heroes trying to fight for the faith and morality that worked, for the beautiful liturgy with meaningful prayers, they had in childhood that the evil usurpers of the Vatican had to try ruining. Sedevacantism gave them their own organizations, churches, and seminaries so they could preserve what the modernist Vatican had to ruin.
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>>17355186
God bless anon and thanks.
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>>17354979
>>17339710
back at (you) bros
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>>17355139
>>17355186
more heretical lies
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>>17355611
seethe Vatican2 heretic
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>>17355611
Ah yes. The nine did what they did for no reason at all right? Absolutely nothing changed about the Mass, the morals, or about the doctrines, right?

Do you realize that almost all the marriage annulments from the Vatican were done in the USA? Gee, I suppose they weren't targeting the American faithful to make them fall, were they?
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>>17355611
Take your meds V2 cuck
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>>17355611
Vatican II is a heresy
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>>17355611
>>17356565
>>17354984
>>17355111

Vatican II Bergoglian heresy, religious indifferentism and paganism in Rome. Open your eyes blind fool of Vatican Ii.
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>>17356981
this
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>>17356981
Religious indifferentism is the greatest killer of the faith. If everything is true, then nothing is true. If every religion is equal, then no religion has any meaning other than preference and no regard to what is and is not true.
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>>17357551
exactly interfaith ecumenical dialogism = indifferentist poison
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>>17357551
<<if everything is true then nothing is true

Mr. Philosopher thinks he’s making a point whilst making an ass of himself simultaneously
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>>17357724
If the positions contradict each other, it's logical that either one is right or the other or no one is right.
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>>17357838
Lol you got me

If A and B don’t agree then it’s possible they’re both wrong and someone else is right.
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>>17357724
>>17357877
are you roman catholic mojito?
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sede tradcath chad
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Bp. Richard Williamson, SSPX - R
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kJ0b1GQ6wE&t
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>>17358234
Thank you very much for Episcopal Consecration YouTube link based sede chad
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>>17355071
exactly this
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Time for New SSPX Episcopal Consecrations: 35th anniversary approaching in 2023
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Prelate in lace rochet and mantelleta preaching sermon at High Mass
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>>17342420
>guy who hasn’t done shit for anyone ever complaining about the world’s biggest charity
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>>17342420
shame on your irreverence
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>>17357945
What makes you think that?
Genuinely curious
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>>17361759
your interest in the Catholic - related threads maybe
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>>17361779
I’m interested in spirituality overall. People believe in unseen forces over just nature is fascinating
I don’t subscribe to a religion…but was born Roman Catholic
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all these look so gay. proof that the Catholic church is unironically run by homosexuals.
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>>17361794

>Prot wants men to not look cool and trad
>Wants them to look boring with no culture
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>>17361794
take your meds schizo



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