FORUMS:http://www.forums.filmnoirbuff.com/https://askandyaboutclothes.com/viewforum.php?id=13https://www.styleforum.net/forums/classic-menswear.5/forum/https://www.reddit.com/r/NavyBlazer/http://thecurriculum.net/forum/BLOGS:American:http://www.ivy-style.com/https://oxfordclothbuttondown.comhttps://www.saltwaternewengland.com/http://www.dressdecoded.com/http://sartorialtalks.com/en/http://www.fivepointfox.com/European:http://thelandlessgentry.blogspot.com/http://tweedlandthegentlemansclub.blogspot.com/https://bespokeunit.com/http://www.manolo.se/http://claseleganciaydistincion.blogspot.com/Not being updated anymore:http://www.mreero.com/http://anaffordablewardrobe.blogspot.com/http://alexandergrant.blogspot.com/https://inner-city-style.blogspot.com/http://thetrad.blogspot.com/http://maxminimus.blogspot.com/http://theivyleaguelook.blogspot.com/READS/BOOKS/ALBUMS:https://pastebin.com/JUHD4Hwuhttps://pastebin.com/SMMg3tK9Quick guide to prep: https://www.mreero.com/journal/how-to-dress-like-a-prepGentleman's Gazzete info on /TIP/: https://pastebin.com/QrNDDG60The Preppy Handbook: https://issuu.com/fiyero109/docs/tophNautical clothing guide: https://epochs.co/features/epochs-guide-to-nautical-clothing?p=nauticalpostBoat shoe lacing guide: https://blog.sperry.com/stories/style/lacing-guide/Waxing Barbours: https://www.saltwaternewengland.com/2019/09/waxing-barbour.html80s Inspo compilation: http://www.ivy-style.com/heres-to-a-preptastic-year-the-1982-prep-for-all-seasons-calendar.htmlInspo albums: https://imgur.com/a/SRKjs, https://imgur.com/a/eEw6B and https://imgur.com/a/XZuwAWhere to find clothing:Spier and MackeyPolo Ralph LaurenAldenMr PorterBrooks brothersJ pressO’ConnellsInverAllenJamiesons ShetlandBarbourSperryLL BeanNauticaOrvisRancourtEastland ShoeQuoddyRussell moccasin coOak Street BootmakersYuketenBill's Khakis
For a beginner penny loafer, is pebbled or smooth leather a better choice? Is one more formal than the other? I dont wear suits, just button-ups/sweaters/polos with chinos or dress pants.
>>17337663if i showed up at the docks wearing THAT i would be immediately thrown overboard
>>17337920Name one flaw. Maybe the dock you visit is just full of assholes?>>17337902I believe pebbled is considered subtly more casual, but it isn't a huge deal or anything, it's not like you're wearing suede. That being said, smooth leather is perfectly fine for both dressy and casual outfits, so long as the color works (i.e. brown ones with an earth tone outfit and black ones with a more "city" outfit, gray, navy, etc.)
>>17337976>Name one flaw.Honestly the trousers look pretty oversized, especially compared to how the sweater fits, and look a bit comical. Also, white shoes, really?
>>17338031I mean, it's from the 1930s. They favored a wider silhouette back then. As for the shoes, what's wrong with white deck shoes? Most normies run around in white sneakers nowadays.
>>17337619Should add to "where to find clothing":Ben SilverCable Car ClothiersCordings
My gf said she wanted to dress more academically. What should I show her
Best place in London for a standard navy blazer?Price up to £400, I'd say.I've got a few shortlisted to go around, but interested to know any others...
If I wear a button down and put a crew or v neck sweater over it, should the button down collar be under or over the sweater?
wtf when i weighed 165 i fit 30" waist pants easily
>>17338562Typically under. Especially with a button-down collar, it would be difficult to even get it over. If it was a spread collar shirt it could go either way, I would still say under, but James Bond pulled off wearing it over in Goldeneye
There is no use of dressing preppy if you don't also wear a classic luxury gold watch.
>>17338573It really differs per clothing item. Big brands have several 'fits', including more traditional wide ones.>>17338239My cockLiterally google 'academic inspo' retard
Just got pic related as a gif, what do you guys think? Kinda mid for Hermes IMO but I'm no expert on their ties, it's my first Hermes.
what's everyone's favorite brand for 100% wool pants like this? I'm a bit of a broke nigga rn so something a bit on the cheaper side would be great too but I'm still willing to spend a bit if the quality is rlly good
>>17340113Pretty nice, I like it. Not my favorite Hermes design but not bad.
is there a name for this type of style? i wanted this one (orvis) but the reviews were pretty grim so i need an alternative
>>17340427looks like a fleece turtleneck coatbut maybe somebody who's less retarded than me has an actual name for it
>>17339527>This guy trying to shill his parmesan watches again
>>17340427It's a 1/4 zip sweater though the fleece around the neck is atypical. They're a really ubiquitous style, how have you not heard of them?
>>17337619opinions on driver shoes?
I'm so happy we finally defeated the fags at /sprezz/
>>17341802ironic considering this thread is DOA
>dark brown chinos or khaki chinos>oxford shirt under a crew neck or v-neck merino wool sweatercasual shoes for this fit? I still wear sneakers everywhere.
>>17342241>>17342246Or boat shoes.
>>17342247>>17342246are boat shoes OK in the fall though?
>>17342256Maybe they're too summery, perhaps camp mocs, blucher mocs, duck hunting boots, or desert boots would be better.
Recommendations for fairly budget friendly murses that aren't out of place with a suit? I have too much shit to carry now I'm either finding >nylon messenger bags>pleather briefcases >multi thousand dollar satchels Looking for like $300 at the most
>>17342635Don't wear a murse dude. Good God. Just buy an attache case or a briefcase.
>>17342402okay I think chukka boots would actually work quite well for me after looking into it. I'll be on the lookout next time I'm at the mall.
Any opinions on penny loafers and chino brands? I've been trying to wear better clothing, but a lot of what I'm accustomed to is stuff like Macy's or the Gap, which I'm starting to understand is cheaply made.
>>17342635Gurkha no 5 the examiner
muahahah /TIP/ is dead again, good riddance
>>17342694You're welcome>>17342749Depends on your budget. You have to pay a lot nowadays for clothes and shoes that don't fall apart on you. Cole Haan and G.H. Bass are decent for loafers, but Alden, Quoddy, or Allen Edmonds are where to go for real quality, pricey as they are. As for khakis, Dockers are honestly okay, but I hear Bill's Khakis and Duck Heads make some of the best. LL Bean, Ralph Lauren, and Brooks Brothers are more middling but decent.
Some stuff from the Cordings lookbook
who makes decent tweed suits for under 1200?
What kind of shoes are good for walking that don't look out of place with a suit? tl;dr I'm going on a trip where I'd need to wear a suit but I really dont want to walk around the city for 16 hours a day in oxfords
>>17344093Not sure what the best choice would be, oxfords, brogues, dress boots, and loafers are the only shoes I can think of that look good with a suit. In the 80s, yuppies would wear running shoes or hiking boots with their suits to walk to work and then change to their dress shoes when they got to the office.
>>17344138I really don't want to do the white-sneaker-with-a-suit meme but that might be my best bet
>>17343959Where can I get that Shawl/Cardigan?
>>17344138>In the 80s, yuppies would wear running shoes or hiking boots with their suits to walk to work and then change to their dress shoes when they got to the office.There's a French TV show where the intern's coworkers make fun of his hiking shoes with the suit combo, it seems to have been a pretty common thing for walking to work/being a broke ass entry level intern
>>17344223For a while even fairly rich professionals did this, because of the transit strike
>>17344227>>17344223i see this all the time in the city
I was buying groceries and ended up getting this reusable bag for a few dollars. I actually like how it looks, the navy on white canvas feels somewhat preppy to me. What do you think?
>>17346800Yeah, sorta nice.
>>17348085well it's no LL Bean tote bag, I guess. But it is nice.
>>17337778too bad they're dogshit now
>>17346800put a patch from your country club or something from your alma mater over the trader joes logo or seam rip it
>>17343505i was in the thread where this dude was postingremember the dude that cuffed his jeans on the inside
>>17348107kek, good idea. I might have a patch from my golf and tennis club
Who else has taken the bow tie pill?
>>17348222Hell yeah brother
>>17340130I wear a lot of stuff from men's wearhouse cause I work there and there's some stuff on clearance for pretty cheap, so long as you can get over the taboo of shopping at men's wearhouse lol
>>17342241wingtip monk straps
>>17348269Those feel too dainty for me to wear. I'm not a big guy and wearing shit like that just looks pathetic on me. Same with cardigans.
>>17342248God I want a camelhar coat but they're SOOO fucking expensive>>17343957Thats beautiful>>17343959I should get a shawl like that>>17344093Monk straps are great, loafers are great, beyond that I don't know.
>>17348271Maybe. Tassel loafers are extremely verstaile too, not sure if you'd consider that too dainty
>>17348275I think for me they wouldn't work. No offense intended, of course. something chunkier and more rugged looking would have to be what I go for.
>>17348280None taken fren, I'd look into chelsea boots, dress boots or similarly low cut boots. It also depends on what length pants you wear. Do you like your pants practically dragging on the floor, above your ankle, or just resting on top of your shoe? If you like your pants short, find loafers you like. If you like them longer, boots work perfectly. Shoes are the area I have the least expertise in lol, just tryna be helpful
>>17348283someone mentioned chukka boots which while not really a prep staple seem like a much better option than sneakers for me but without the dainty feeling of some loafers and stuff. I should try chelsea boots as well when I'm in the store and see how they look too.usually my chinos are long enough to drag on the floor when I'm not wearing shoes, so I guess kind of long.
Looking for a pair of glassesAm I right in thinking round tortoise shell is the look to be pursuing?
>>17348364well you're not wrong
>>17342241Desert boots, loafers, blucher mocs, longwing derbies.
>>17338538Fuck off>>17338469Go to cordings
>>17342241Any good brown shoe by Alden or Allen Edmonds.Wingtips would fit nicely.
>>17342256>are boat shoes OK in the fallNo. They are too soft.
>>17348364Yes, though round wireframes are also acceptable.
>>17348643>>17349008>>17349006Yeah I'm thinking derbies or desert boot sort of boots. Probably leaning towards desert boots for the higher cut which I think works better on me.One of these days I'll see if I can post some photos. Maybe even good photos, but that depends if I can get my friend to learn how to use my camera properly.
After buying a supima Brooks Brothers 1818 shirt, it feels like no other dress shirt i own is even worth wearing.
>>17345061T I M E L E S S
>>17337619>IvyHarvard is the most disgusting place on earth >t. suffering grad student
>>17344138>fresh pastaAh yes, the most distinctive feature of a Young Professional.
Favorite fragrances, anyone?
Any other working class people like this style?I feel wonderful in the clothing but also a fraud...
>>17350385It's not even crossing class lines, it's completely normal to see older men wearing TIP becuase that was the clothing they wore back in the day even amongst the working class, now it might be different in the cities or down south but it's funny seeing young people "emulating" Peaky Blinders on social media cause they just look like the old boys wearing their flatcaps. Also I like to dress like this because during my 6 day work week I'm in overalls, so when I'm off I like to dress up because it's the only chance I get to wear clean clothes.
>>17350384Been using Tobacco Vanille a lot recently
Is Piniparma any good? Looks not too expensive.
>>17350384Vetiver bourbonHawasInstant crushArmani eau de nuit oudAMA https://www.fragrantica.com/member/1266704
>>17350384>>17350491Also Raghba is a superb winter frag, new favourite.
Anyone know a good Ivy/prep fashion magazine? I was looking and WM Brown kind of looks like it might fit. The Rake looks too “menswear and suits” for what I’m looking for.
>>17350384Le Labo Tonka 25. Pretty basic shit, but it’s amazing and girls pull me into them to get a whiff
>>17350767Not low self esteem, just feel awkward wearing such lovely threads when at heart I'm a poor.
>>17351192I'm a poorfag too, but I went to pretty decent private schools (thanks to scholarships and my parents deciding to forgo a few vacations and other luxuries) and I went to one of my country's top universities, so the TIP look stuck with me. Luckily the TIP look is easy to achieve without breaking the bank. As for feeling like a fraud - I can kinda relate since I'm still not at the same wealth level as my school buddies, but if it makes you happy to wear the style, just do it. It might help if you start wearing TIP around the house as well, over time it'll feel like almost natural, like a second skin
>>17351192I mean it's not like you're going all the way with it and actually pretending to be something you're not, dressing like this just looks nice and is respectableif I'm going to play a round of golf or if I'm going to class and then the library then I will dress like this and it's not really larping or anything. I guess I don't live the lifestyle or whatever but in general I dress for what I'm going to be doing. And I don't really feel like it's out of place or anything.it's hot today and I'm just doing nothing really so I'm wearing a hawaiian shirt. I have a lot of vintage hawaiian shirts so why not. but last week when I went to play golf I obviously wasn't gonna show up to the course looking like how I am now.Oh, and I played the best game I've had in a while that day, so that was nice too.
>>17351192>feel awkward wearing such lovely threads when at heart I'm a poorThat is low self-esteem.
>>17351876not him but how the hell do I fix low self esteem?
>>17351876It's imposter syndrome
>>17350385What's helped me is to do away with the silly mindset that I should "stay in my lane">even though today anyone can afford to keep white shirts clean and pressed, and shoes nice and clean, we shouldn't dress up because we're the peasantry working classWhy should classic menswear be restricted to the upper classes?Sure I have to wear overalls and work boots at work... but outside of work I'm just the same as anyone else. I can go to the thrift store and buy all these top end brands for cheap. There are no laws saying I'm not allowed to wear this style, it's purely a social pressure.Dressing in classic menswear doesn't make you look like you're pretending to be upper class.. it just makes you look good, sharp, dignified. >oh you can't look good, sharp, and dignified because you're just a construction workerIt's nonsense, it's oppressive, such ideas should be thoroughly thrown out.
>>17352180>Why should classic menswear be restricted to the upper classes?Upper classes don't even dress this way anymore anyways
>>17351889cringe>>17350492>>17350519>>17350767>>17351876>>17351950google my balls you double nigger
>>17352359no, but if you dress in a fancy suit people will still make the assumption that you're pretending to be upper class
>>17337619>tfw want briar pipe but don't smokeFeelsbadman
>>17350384Eight and Bob Original and D&G The One. All I need for all occasions.
>>17350384For me, it's Eau Sauvage. I'm thinking of Cerruti 1881 instead, though.
>>17352465You can always start. Cigars and pipes are massively better than cigarettes.
>>17353151Smelling like burning ass isn't very effay
>>17353182pipes don't smell like that
>>17353202That's what you think
>>17353300good rolling tobacco smells different. I roll cigarettes sometimes and other times I buy a pack. When I first started smoking I could barely tell a difference between different ones but now I can smell the difference. For example, camel lights and marlboro reds smell dirty and almost have a faint fecal quality to them. Winston golds have this but with a musty cardboard note. Newport reds are like marlboro reds but with a hint of cardboard as well. Parliaments smell better than marlboro reds. So do Benson & Hedges... now, you may say that to a non-smoker, they all smell like shit, which is probably true. But there is a difference.I also started rolling my own tobacco. Now, I obviously could tell the difference, and they were much nicer. However, I would have expected that my friends, who don't smoke, would not. But when I smoked one that I rolled, a couple people turned to me in surprise and told me that it smelled a little pleasant. Multiple non-smokers told me it smells different from regular cigarettes and that it smelled nutty or somewhat chocolatey. This happened a couple times, and what I was using was pipe tobacco, just more shredded.So back to what I was saying before, basically, pipe tobacco doesn't necessarily smell like shit, basically, and this was corroborated by non-smokers.
>>17353151I am going to purchase a pipe despite not being a smoker.I'm going to walk around with it in my mouth for the feeling it gives.
>>17353322The epitome of LARP.
>>17353350look through this whole thread, it's all been LARP. 0 fits, 0 oc
>>17353101Good choice, I'm planning to get a bottle myself. It's in the OPH as well.>>17353357Assuming you're not a concern troll who wants somebody to post a fit so you can make 20 samefag replies where you shit on it for not being 10/10 perfect, why don't you post one and get the ball rolling?
>>17353357Next time I get my photos developed I'll be sure to send some along to you.
>>17353317Keep telling yourself that. I have a friend who smokes a pipe exclusively and both he and his house smell like trash - you're just noseblind to it.
>>17353414no i posted enough last thread. this general sucks
Does anyone have any inspo for women? I need some gift ideas.
>>17353482Then why don't you fuck off?>Bitch and whine about something that you could easily change>Refuse to change it because you're a pussy Pretty sad, honestly. Why does it seem that this general and this general only attracts so much "Where are the fits!? Why aren't you posting fits!?" hysteria? It's a general. People can post anything related to Trad/Ivy/Prep style. Fits yes, but also discussion, questions, inspo, and so on.
>>17353737Could you be a little more specific? Who are you shopping for, what kind of thing you want?
>>17353743A woman on the taller side. We're not going out, but we're friends, and we're both students, so I don't want to spend terribly much. I'm looking at secondhand cable knit sweaters in a cream color but I'm having a hard time finding the perfect one.Anyway, I thought maybe some inspo would give me some ideas for something else to get her just in case I can't find the right knit sweater. I'm thinking maybe a nice canvas tote bag could work, but really just some photos in general might give me some better ideas. I'm looking to spend like $50, tops, which is very doable for secondhand stuff but rules out things like shoes, for example.
>>17353746Oh, and I should add something for cooler weather, we'll be exchanging gifts before Christmas so ideally she'd be able to wear it over Christmas break.
>>17353746Cream colored cable knits are a classic style, a good choice for either sex. For inspo in general, you could check out the Official Preppy Handbook (there's a link in the OP). I also recommend looking at photos of Princess Diana in the 80s and Kate Middleton nowadays for inspo for preppy looks for women, they really exemplify the style.
>>17353751>I also recommend looking at photos of Princess Diana in the 80s and Kate Middleton nowadaysThanks, that's a good idea.
>>17353746So you do not know shit about clothing but want to by some secondhand clothes for another person as a present.Fucking hell. Get some help. You are absolutely retarded.
>>17353746Just get her 60ml of Mancera Instant Crush (chicks adore it) or Jardin Exclusif (also very good, close to Erba Pura). And don't embarrass yourself with that shit you have planned about sh clothes.
how often should I be dry cleaning my wool trousers
>>17353935Every 5-7 wearings.
>>17353863>Just get her 60ml of Mancera Instant Crushis this a chick perfume? maybe that's why i like it so much
>>17353986>a chick perfumeI can wear it as a man. But chicks absolutely love that on chicks.
>>17353993>chicks absolutely love that on chicks.an idea is forming...
>>17353751Whats this pic from?
Just want to say to the person who posts these generals to keep it up. I enjoy the threads very much and don't understand why there are people giving you crap for it.
>>17353854>asking for some ideas means I don't know shit about clothingWhat's with you? There's literally no need to get to inflamed over this, we're just talking in here, I could have just not posted anything and we can all just leave the site and use jewgle for our needs and only come on 4chan to troll people and reply to b8 posts. Jesus Christ dude.>>17353863I'll check it out. What's so embarrassing, though? We'd discussed wanting cable knit sweaters in a previous conversation, I doubt it'd be embarrassing to get one in any way. I was just curious if any images would give me ideas for something else.
>>17354320lurk moar annoying newfag
>>17354241Thanks anon, I try my best.
>>17355201Why? That’s TIP
>>17354616I've been here for 12 years you stupid nigger, not everything has to be a post ironic cynical shitpost man jesus>>17355210he looks like a modern kpop gayboy even if the individual pieces could fit in to this thread so I don't know about it.
>>17355210>Twinks In Polyester
How do I size high rise pants?For mid rise, I just add 2 inches to my jeans size and it works.jeans - 32"mid rise pants - 34"
>>17356207also, does the inseam change
>>17355277the problem with the photo is wearing a sweater tucked-in and without a collared shirt. not that it looks bad, it just doesnt look tip>>17356207huh? it doesnt sound like you understand pants sizing. the rise is a separate measurement from the inseam. you cant just buy normal rise with a longer inseam and wear it higher, because then the pants will be riding on your dick and balls. just buy pants with a high rise (over 10") with your normal inseam.
>>17356207I'm faced with the same problem. My pants (mostly jeans or chinos) used to be 32" all aorund. Tried some high rise wool pants this week at 38", but that was comically wide. I'll try to slowly home in on it now.
Am I the only one who sees the connection between Kirby Allison and Reviewbrah?
Where might I find a black sport coat like picrel? Little to no padding on the shoulders. I found a great 80s navy blazer and herringbone tweed sport coat on etsy for awesome prices, but can't seem to find a black one. Any recs or keywords to search or places to look online or offline?
>>17355277He is some K-pop dude from the band Bangtan but also I posted it specifically because I liked the pieces/ fit and I think it looks good. I saved this one too. It’s not really TIP but it is cool. These are all gender neutral items anyways.
>>17356487If you want zero padding, you need to look for unstructured blazers.
>>17356388Reviewbrah is more tolerable
>>17356487Could just be the lighting but I think that's a dark gray.
>>17356487>>17356845Also WFB is very TIP
Is the Woodster considered TIP?
>>17356617I mean some of the pieces could maybe be tippy but the shirt is very tacky and the shirt and pants are just black. Black really never works for this well IMHO
>>17353935>dry cleaning woolholy kek
Has anyone bought from Cast and Lane? What are their pants like?
>>17356487>>17356845That is clearly brown or some kind of maroon
>>17350384Polo Green for Workor Dior Homme Intense for weekends
>>17356487Black clothing is traditionally only worn for mourning of night events(even then, people usually wear dark grey or night blue). As mentioned by others you're probably looking for dark grey
>>17356221I meant waist measurement, not inseam
Not sure if tippy enough for you guys
>>17357451lighting is shit, articles look nice
>>17357451Pants and coat are ok.
>>17357451Not bad anon, cool coat!
>>17357451Looks warm and comfy.
>>17357277Oh, dont know why i read inseam. Depends on your frame. My true waist is smaller than my hips so i size down by a couple inches.
>>17356621Ty for the response.>>17356847Here's a link to the EP,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgHaUxNK0Po&t=Really been enjoying watching / listening to all of his shows. I don't agree with Buckley all the time, but he has some interesting guests and interesting topics. I do value all the opinions presented. The man certainly had a sense of style.>>17356977watch some of the episode linked above, I'm almost positive it's black. Color cameras from the 70's make things hard to decipher, but you can make out he's wearing dark grey trousers. If it is brown, grey, or even maroon, it is very dark. I'm still new to pairing colors but I would think that trying to pair any of the aforementioned colors with grey trousers would be difficult, vice the color black. Please enlighten me if you disagree though. >>17357176Is this really the case if it's just a sport coat / blazer? I can kind of understand this applying to a black suit, but even then I have found Buckley to wear black suits on a number of occasions, this episode being one of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74OPRyeQ3hA&t=Unless I cannot distinguish color very well (and this may be the case), it seems that his guests as well often wear black. Was there a shift in our culture since the 70's where now wearing black is only permitted at mourning or night events?
>>17357972>>17357176>>17356977Upon closer examination I have found the color in the second episode I linked to be dark grey after contrasting it with the guests suit. I really didn't know that grey's could get that dark.
>>17357451actually looking pretty nice, thanks for posting
>>17357972>The man certainly had a sense of style.Ivy-Style has a few articles on Buckley, I suggest reading them. I can't recall where I read it, but there was an interview with WFB in which he said his wife did most of his clothes shopping, as he couldn't be bothered. He mentioned having pants slightly tapered just so they wouldn't flare out excessively, I assume more of a straight sillhouette rather than the skinny tapered look we know it today.
Never see anyone talking about them. Been around since 1851. I got a coat and it's pretty good, but would like to know if you have any experience with other items.
>>17357451Nice fit. Are those Paraboot Avignons?
>>17358485overpriced and very thin. I have a few moss bros suits, the fit is nice and the material itself tends to be of a nice quality. The problem is, the company cheaps out and rolls the fabric ridiculously thin. I dont imagine my moss bros trousers will last more than two winters
>>17359246Any recommendations in England that are decent and on the cheaper side? I want to start dressing better, but not formal. Been looking for a black dress shirt with black buttons, probably an oxford and maybe a turtleneck for Fall/Winter. I bought a suit, white shirt and shoes from M&S 2 years ago for a work party, but it's probably even lower quality.
>>17359281>I want to start dressing better, but not formal>Been looking for a black dress shirt with black buttonsYou will regret that. Just go for an Oxford and skip the turtleneck. A black dress shirt rarely looks good outside of some funerals where you're meant to wear all black (some non-Western ones) and the turtleneck is on it's way out imo; it's so overdone. If you want to look elegant but not formal, just wear a white Oxford or a white poplin shirt that fits well with dress pants. You can wear a shirt with a grid pattern as well, or any number of things, but don't go for a turtleneck or a thick stripe shirt or a beige linen shirt or anything too "stylish" (in quotation marks) like that.
>>17358341Found the interview, it's from a 1980s issue of Playboy apparently.https://www.ivy-style.com/obstinately-stuck-in-ivy-wfb-on-clothes-1982.html
what do you call this kind of jacket?
Any recommendations for cardigans that aren’t too expensive? Budget would be 100-130 or less. Also what boots and winter coats look good with sweaters and cardigans? A lot of the inspo posted have blazers or suits but im in a very casual state (Oregon) and I still want to kind of blend in.
>>17359281>black dress shirtplebswear
>sweater over oxford shirt>look like a frumpy pear retard>decide to tuck sweater in as well>silhouette fixes itselfnice
>>17359433See, I thought an Oxford was formal, I'm not that knowledgeable in this, so I've been reading about different stuff here and there.I'll skip the turtleneck and go for a sweater instead, then. And I prefer dark colors and go for all black whenever I can, and if not, I'll go with the closest I can get like charcoal or dark grey. My regret is actually that I've bought clothes in other colors and rarely use them now because of it.>>17359958>preference is being a pleblol, lmao even
>>17360015>>preference is being a pleb>lol, lmao evenWhat is so funny about plebs' preferences?
>>17360023What's pleb about a black oxford shirt, then?Are you also one of those who think something that is expensive and well known is good and that if you use/consume said things you're better than others?
>>1735745110/10 fit. It's rare to see actually competent fits posted here. Color harmony is great, everything fits you and the clothes look to be of quality. Props for the split toe derbies too.
>>17360031>What's pleb about a black oxford shirt, then?Well that is their color of choice for the shirts and t-shirts. What else could it be?
>>17360084So, just your projection. Got it.
>>17360086(Not him) It’s not that black is a "bad" color, but when dressing in menswear style, you also try to direct the eye towards your face with contrast. All black = no contrast = bad. Read "Dressing the man" by Alan Flusser to see what I mean.
>>17360091>you also try to direct the eye towards your faceI don't like attention, therefore all black would be better. I'm not looking to dress better so that others can look at me, it's so that I aquire pieces that will last for the rest of my life.
>>17360110Well there’s a list of brands right there in the OP friendo, no need argue about your stylistic choices, which will always be unproductive.
>>17360110>I don't like attentionHe stated attention to face. You will definitely get a lot of attention to your pleb black shirt.
Am i sinning against TIP if I buy items with elastine or raylon? Every chinos I see online or in person seems to have some version of it. What about with Jackets?
>>17360497Most of the coats will have a rayon/bremberg lining, so don’t feel bad. However you can definitely find 100% cotton chinos if you look hard enough. If you are in Europe Scavini has a lot of them.
>>17353317Try Dunhills. I hate the smell of cigarettes but Dunhills taste closer to cigars.
>>17359774The fabric is tweed and the pattern is birdseye.
>>17359984Might just need sweaters with shorter length. Because i have noticed the pear shape with sweaters that are a little big and reach close to the crotch.
>>17360015An Oxford shirt isnt formal. As in, it's not part of a formal dress code you would wear at a serious office, wedding, funeral, etc. It could be interpreted more formal than a t-shirt by normies. But it was invented as a sports shirt. The collar buttons are to keep it from flapping in the wind and give it an S shape distinctive from dress shirts.Youre getting flack for the idea of a black shirt because it's just not very versatile, expressive, or traditional. I usually see it at Hollywood events where all of the men don black as a uniform.
>>17360745Thank you for the explanation. I could stay ignorant, but I shall research further upon the subject at hand.Personally, I believe an all black (or all white) attire does work and looks good, provided most if not all pieces are made of different materials as not to look tacky.
>>17360745this. OCBD is as formal as a t shirt
>>17360733could be that too. I got a vintage jacket that's cropped much shorter and I look a lot better in it, so the same could go for sweaters. But tucking them in looks nice as well.
>>17360516I can't say I've ever noticed them but I heard they're nice. I had some Benson & Hedges which were alright as well.Cigar smoke is definitely less offputting than cigarette smoke
>>17360733can sweaters be hemmed up? I figure the common thin ones can, but what about knits?
wool fringe tie, vintage suede winklepickers, and a soft cotton shirt from a 12-pack lot of shirts i bought on eBay for 15 dollars(what a steal!)how would you describe this fit in the /tip/ vernacular?(ignore the glasses, its a brand thing more than anything)
>>17361037pointy hair, pointy body, pointy shoes>how would you describePointy.>Verification not required.
>>17361037>how would you describe this fit in the /tip/ vernacular?I'd go with 'disgusting'
>>17361037get rid of those glasses and those fucking earbuds, and those shoes are fucking horrendous
>>17361037You look like Shaggy from Scooby Doo but if he was a wacky dotcom bubble tech CEO>Zoinks, Scoob, i guess we're broke
>>17361037thanks>>17361046hell yeim a human fly babyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA2q7219ivI&ab_channel=teachmehow2dougie>>17361057i know i know, this suit is too fucking shortunfortunately its kinda slim pickings for small dudes like me
>>17361065lelthat is an interesting description if ever i've heard one
>>17361068>short haircutCheck>weird glasses Check>some weird vaporware tech earbudsCheck>Shaggy clothesCheckYou're literally him but from an alternate universe.
>>17361037If you're going to dress as a clown you'd might as well go all in and get a bright colored suit and bowtie
just filter tripfags and don't reply to them, the last dozen posts here have been off topic replies to someone who looks like a clown
>>17361037please, get rid of the glasses, also, you are wearing elf shoes, get those off or go back to Santa's workshop. Fit's pretty dece otherwise
>>17361059>>17361321they're called winklepickers and they were a staple of mod fashion, thank you very much!i'm quite passionate about the more 'countercultural' or at least niche side of menswear and tailoring history, which tends to be quite overlooked, as far as i can see.
>>17344138Should I get a Gucci briefcase?
>>17361412doesn't change the fact that they're fucking hideous, pal
>>17361428honestly the one in the pic looks good but I'm almost certain any briefcase they make now is some gaudy made in china junk for drooling retards
Posting this on the off-chance someone more knowledgable actually looks at this. I ordered a jacket online and the sleeves are weirdly crumpled where they attach to the shoulder seam, even when not worn. I wonder if this is shoddy craftsmanship since in reference pictures the sleeves attach neatly.The jacket is Neapolitan style with no padding and I have never owned a suit in such a style, so I am unfamiliar with how these things usually turn out.
>>17361889One more closeup.
>>17361889>>17361890the annoying newfaggotry on this board and in this thread drain almost all of motivation to share information and not shitpost. anyways look up spalla camicia, and go back to lurking
>>17361898That's interesting and only makes me wonder that if this is the intended style, why their reference pictures don't look like this at all but show the sleeves being neat at the shoulder. Thanks for sharing.
>>17361898So what book do I read to learn everything? Not several, just 1.
>>17361889>>17361890It's okay, it's probably supposed to be like that. Makes it more casual looking, sewn like a shirt shoulder
>>17361889They fucked it up.The edge length of the sleeve was longer than the perimeter of the whole.Ask for refund.
>>17361920>>17361889>Neapolitan styleOh you were asking them for that fucked up shoulder.Then you deserve it.It only works with light colored day-time summer jackets.
>>17337619>manoloNo updates since 2020
What breed of dog is most TIP?I'm thinking Golden retriever.
>>17362569fuck dogs, hate drool
What do you guys wear for winter footwear? Boots?
Just got this, thoughts? Drake's silk/wool scarf from a few seasons ago ago, shop in my town dug it out of the warehouse for black friday and it was like half price. It'll go great with my purple socks I guess.
>>17361937the five point fox blog has been dead for a long while too
>>17362569Golden, easily. Labradors too. >>17362570>fuck dogsyou just know
>>17362572Depends on the weather and occasion. Brogues and oxfords for dressy occasions, Duck hunting boots or Hunter/Wellington boots if outdoors. Chelsea boots are good as a Fall/Winter alternative to loafers.
>>17362646Very nice anon.
>>17362569What about the doberman and the german shepherd?
>>17348283good ideas anon
>>17361037>>17361412saw this in another thread, the look would suit you >>17363168
Just copped a Hathaway shirt.Am I now obligated to get an eyepatch, too?
FellasWhat's a respectable reverseweave college sweatshirt to wear when you haven't attended said college?I don't live in the US but I love how they look.I feel the Ivy League colleges might be too try hard. Should I opt for a much lesser known institution? Or should I just wear whichever one takes my fancy and say to hell with the haters?Thank you!
>>17364057>a respectable reverseweave college sweatshirt to wear when you haven't attendedThat is a symbolic purchase.In your case it symbolises that you are fake.
>>17364057i think its cringe to wear a sweatshirt from a university youve never attended. but i attended a good, liberal arts school and people there wore gear from other universities, but thats because those schools actually have football programs. i see that as acceptable because its less about larping as a graduate and instead about supporting the team. so, you can only wear a power 5 school's sweatshirt. the best ones academically that have good sports football teams would be notre dame, usc(alifornia), michigan, stanford, ucla, etc. but if you encounter a graduate who asks you if you attended, which you did not, you need a good justification/knowledge of the program otherwise you will look like a doofus
>>17357451w2c pants, coat, and shoes?
>>17364296kek literally /LARP/ general
>>17364057Can't you get a sweater from your own college/uni?
>>17364057I don't know about that man, to some degree yeah, wear what you like, but at a certain point it's just pure LARP, and this is at that point.I hate to admit it, but I go to a state school. Even so, I'd rather wear a sweatshirt with my own school on it than wear one that says harvard around like a larper.
>>17364285>>17364296>>17364428>>17364762I don't live in the US so I feel like it doesn't matter as much.
>>17364774you look like a silly tourist. get a 'I <3 NY' shirt you're at it kek
the 70s in America were a very unique time. I'm convinced no one today could pull off anything like picrel.
>>17364774>don't live in the USThat makes your flam double obvious.
>>17364786Anyone can if you eat enough M
>>17364780>>17364788Why are People so mean?
>>17364799>Why are People so meanBecause liars are dangerous.
>>17343957Thanks for posting these, Cordings is on top of it. Really sharp stuff, this one in particular.>>17353737I really strongly recommend against buying clothes for women. The fitting has to be quite sharp, and they are more particular about colors/textures/etc. There is a very high chance she won't ever want to or be able to wear whatever it is, even if she mostly likes it as a stand-alone piece.>>17353935When they're dirty as fuck, I would never wash them if I could help it. Brush them after you wear them to get loose dirt and stuff off.>>17356388Physically, I see what you're saying. It's slight, though.>>17357451Looks good
>>17364799better to have someone be mean to you on 4chan than irl
Where do I buy wide cut trouser in Europe? There impossible to find with thick thighs
>>17364799Theyre trying to help you avoid looking like a dumbass
>>17364774true, it won't matter as much, but it'll be even more disingenuous. At a purely visual level it's okay but in my opinion fashion that only goes as far as that is shallow and kinda lame, it's like redditors larping as tradesmen or zoomers adopting outfits of groups they actually hate for some reason and then their behavior doesn't even make any sense with their weird costumes you should do your own thing.
Oh, I got some Clarks chukka boots today. They look nice. Thanks to whichever anon recommended desert boots to me. Good step up from sneakers while still being pretty casual.
How is the fit for Pini Parma suit/jackets? Is it slim fit or regular?
>>17355136A $15k look that can easily be had at any thrift store for $20
>>17365364>you should do your own thing.I am doing my own thing. What a weird criticism.
>>17365724I mean have your own style that reflects your own environment. I live in southern california, it's warm. I don't wear tweed or try to pretend I live in New Hampshire, you know?
>>17365732It's a sweatshirt
>>17365756alright then, why ask us in the first place? Get your sweatshirt and quit whining, jesus christ man. You asked, and pretty much everyone agreed that it would be a bit disingenuous, but we're not going to stop you anyway (obviously) and you've been whining about it for the last few hours. Just go wear your goddam sweatshirt already and leave us alone then, if you're so adamant about it.
>>17365811There's no need for that tone sir.
>>17365840shut up faggot
>>17365811>>17365848Based>>17365840You got your answer here >>17364780
>>17365756>sweatshirtwhat is the difference from a sweater?
>>17365840It's an exasperated tone and it's needed because we tried to help and he was being an asshole about it. Like, no shit you're gonna get called a faggot on 4chan, but you're supposed to read the actual content of the message and not fixate on a word or take banter seriously (which, I would like to add, plebbitors always do, if you ever make a burner account there and try to help but someone takes offense at the smallest arrangement of words that isn't perfect to them, they'll ignore your entire post and get mad about the one word or something). Everyone gave their two cents to this guy, and if he didn't still agree then he could just close his browser and get his sweatshirt, but instead he decided to come back and reply to everyone and bitch and moan about it. I don't care what he wears. He can do whatever the hell he wants. But if you ask for advice in a thread and then just argue with everyone then what was the point of asking for the advice in the first place?I'm not even trying to be a jerk here. Just explaining myself
>>17365840kys nigger cattle, you truly are goyim
>>17357972>Is this really the case if it's just a sport coat / blazer? For what it's worth, I've never seen anyone use a black blazer even in a mix and match recreational setting apart from dressing full gray and black at an evening house/boat party, apart from this one cunt I semi-know who works at a bank and no kappa his mom buys some of his suits.Also as a side note, very dark grey jackets are fairly common, I have one that might come off black in pictures.
>>17361037Ur a thin man from Xcom, lmao
Are these that bad for casual wear? I wear out shoes super fast and it costs nearly as much to get them resoled as it does to buy a new pair.
>>17366343Just buy better quality shoes, boot soles on loafers is an awful look.
>>17366446Can you give examples of better quality shoes?
>>17366446I usually wear Allen Edmonds, but I go through like a pair every year or two. I want something that will last longer for everyday use.
>>17366624Bass Weejuns' quality has gone downhill. Maybe buy from a different brand than AE as well. Also, lug soles look terrible on dress shoes and loafers. Just get a regular rubber sole and don't drag your feet (maybe you don't. I don't know). The rubber sole on my sneakers has hardly worn out after 2 years of daily wear.Perhaps it's because you're wearing them outside of dress contexts that they are wearing out. Maybe do like they did in the 1980s and wear sneakers during your commute and put your dress shoes on at work.
>>17364030Funnily enough, I found a Hathaway shirt at a thrift store last week.
>>17364311>Gen Zniggers who dress up like rappers every day think wearing khaki pants and polo shirts is a "LARP"
>>17366639no i think wearing college merch from a school you didn't go to, and memorizing the program to not get called out is /LARP/. learn to read, retardhttps://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Walmart%20Wolverine
Where can I sell off some classic menswear items I never wear? I'm based in EU. Have a number of new pretty nice items I'd like to get off my hands with pretty fair prices. E.g. picrelated DB coat in stone/beige from Loro Piana's Capolavoro fabric.eBay has tricky settings with shipping - not sure how much to specify since the cost varies greatly...
>>17366671You called the whole thread a "LARP general", niggerfaggot. Pretty much every TIP poster here, myself included, was opposed to the Harvard sweatshirt dumbass.
>>17366712Grailed, Poshmark, eBay.
>>17366712You could try Vestiaire, they take a cut, but market for you and pay for (sellers) postages.
>>17366724Racism isn't /tip/ my backwater friend
>>17365858>poster can't tell the difference between a sweatshirt and a sweater, nor could they search the answer to such a simple question The absolute state of /fa/ these days.
>>17366897Yes it is, along with anti-semitism and anti-catholcism
>>17366635What sneakers would one wear on their commute in 1985? Sneakers now are so ugly>>17366671You're right, but you called everyone else a larper too, so >>17366724 is also right, why don't you just shake hands and make up?>>17366897no it definitely is lol unless you're interested in sovlless modern prep or whatever like brooks brothers becoming kneelers or whatever
>>17367390>What sneakers would one wear on their commute in 1985? Sneakers now are so uglyWho cares? They were always ugly. They're for doing sports. Just tennis shoes or running shoes I guess. Anything you'd call a "dad shoe" maybe.
>>17348267Whats the taboo of shopping at men's wearhouse?
>>17367492In the 80s, the biggest choices for yuppies walking to work seemed to be bulky white running shoes like New Balances, or hiking/hunting boots like Bean boots. Classic tennis shoes like Tretorns and Sperry CVOs would also work.
>>17367530Meant to reply to >>17367390
>>17367532yeah that sounds about rightpretty good thread this time around too
>>17367390>>17367560Sorry but only one fit posted ITT means you're all LARPing. as usual
>>17366712Vinted or your country's menswear groups
>>17365367which color did you get? I'm still not sure which one I should get for maximum versatility
>>17364786the 70s is my favorite fashion decade because of how eccentric people dressed but the outfits were all still neat and well put together
>>17367804beeswax, I really like the look. Looked nice with navy chinos and I believe they'll work with khaki or dark brown as well. And light wash or regular blue jeans, too.
Is it even worth to dress trad (or ivy inspired, that's what I like the most) if I am in a non prep career where average person dresses in outdoor/sports gear, or at best: in a sweater with chinos and sneakers, have parents in a blue collar field, and live in a city which has barely people dressing like that? I really like the style and feel stuck on the 2014 common projects with plain sweaters cuckcocre
>>17368325>if I am in a non prep careerDress for the job you want, not for the job you have.Also it is always ok to overdress.
>>17368325imo actually going to a fancy college is irrelevant today since they're all pozzed.But I do encourage everyone to pursue similar topics that were traditionally taught at these colleges like the trivium and quadrivium.As well as learning to appreciate many of the typical high brow sports and arts if you have the ability to.You don't have to be a pompus rich degenerate to enjoy classical architecture and history, and it goes with the fashion
make a new thread already, i have a good post to make