/sprezzatura/ - Mediterranean and Menswear GeneralThis thread is for the well dressed man and those seeking to improve their dress by exploring colors, patterns, textures and other styles while appearing more mature, elegant and refined.>What is “sprezzatura”?Required viewing: https://youtu.be/_QG4lTMjWtYRequired reading: https://parisiangentleman.co.uk/2017/02/24/how-obsession-with-sprezzatura-can-kill-the-sprezzatura/>Do I have to be European to wear this style?Absolutely not. Anyone can wear this as long as they are confident and don’t care what people think. You should be dressing for yourself, not for others. Is this style more common in Italy and other Mediterranean countries? Absolutely. But you could wear this wherever you are.>How is this different than Trad/Ivy/Prep?Whereas the /TIP/ threads favor classic styles and tailoring, wider fits and more drape, Mediterranean and modern menswear favors slimmer cuts, tailored closer to the body to accentuate and flatter your body. Slim fit is allowed and in many cases encouraged.>Where should I start?Start with sport coats and mix and match with trousers. Experiment with colors and patterns. Don’t be afraid of color. This isn’t business style, where bland conformity is the norm. We want to be colorful, and experiment with fabrics. Wear linen, wool, cotton, anything you want.>Where can I find good inspo to draw from?https://pastebin.com/aj60u0Uz>Where can I buy these clothes?https://pastebin.com/KMAUhYTC
dead thread from the very first post stop trying, it's over
>>17252520>even putting this questionhe should consider hanging xirself
>>17252784>copypastes the general without removing that gay faggot paragraph>newfag
Need some tailoring advice /tip/I copped picrel on grailed last week and have yet to bring it to a tailor. The sleeves obviously need to be shortened and the body brought in a tad, but I'm curious if there's anything that can be done about the weird fit at the shoulders? The sizing is correct- this is my usual size and if it were any smaller I'd struggle to put my arms through both sleeves without feeling like I was gonna pop a seam- but there's that weird slope down my traps that makes the shoulder on my relaxed side look more structured than it is.Fwiw I'll also be in nyc next weekend so if anyone has recs for people competent enough to do what needs to be done that'll be good as well.And no I would never wear it with this outfit. I threw it on over my clothes when I saw there was a tip thread up.
>>17252825Tip : this place is not the place to ask about menswearTry the fit feedback thread on SF
>>17252860Will probably do that too. But for the time this dying thread has in the catalog it'd be good to get some feedback from the only people on /fa/ who don't see any leather shoe that isn't a sneaker as dress footwear.
>>17252825Fixing shoulder issues is usually pretty damn hard. Its possible, but most tailors wont bother.>>17252860Last time I checked SF out they were talking about how using pleats looked weird and how non-skinny trousers were lame. This was in 2021, mind you.
>>17254382Sage Let that shit die pronto
>>17254422holy based. rest in piss /tip/ and /sprezz/
>>17252512>/sprezzatura/>the general that is heavilly focussed on hot italian climate themed clothing>completely disappears for the entirety of the summer>finally reappears at the start of Autumn
>>17256789The level of noncery Charles partakes in would even make me blush.
Goddamn, OP, I got a corduroy jacket and now you make me want to have corduroy pants, too
>>17252825damn that's a good fit on your torso but wtf is up with the sleeves? too bad the shoulders are whackthis just sucks anon coz it's so close to perfect but so far
>>17257084Yeah the sleeves either need to be steamed out (maybe its just wrinkles from shipping) or the pitch needs to be adjusted in which case I'm back to looking for a good tailor. The curse of /fit/fa/
cords + suede = too much texture?
Why did you use a picture which is the opposite of Sprezzatura, that's English style.
>>17257178Englishmen would never wear a belt.That is American.
>>17257195I miss /tip/
>>17257178Its simply a tip, prep style. Not "English" style. Yes it is odd OP using a tip image for sprezz, but I guess they're combined now.
>>17257940>>17257951>>17257940>>17257178Not even close retards. It’s obviously a Drake’s image from the styling. It’s Drake’s, there isn’t a name. They use a lot of Italian tailoring mixed with traditional English country, and some ivy. This general is always full of LARPers, if you are interested then try StyleForum or following stores and related stores on Instagram for better ideas. Autistic people like set rules so they think that they come here to find a way to dress, but in reality, nobody cares about a uniform. Just enjoy it.
>>17252512https://www.piniparma.com/collections/jackets/products/dark-grey-jacket-neapolitan-capsule-collection-made-in-italyopinions? I need a jacket for this winter that i can wear with brown corduroy pants and a darker pair of grey pants that i got from Pini Parma too
>>17256789We were always a fall/winter themed thread as that's when you can actually dress up and get creative with your fitsIn summer it's linen, linen and more linen and loafers. That's it
>>17258055I am pretty sure it's from Polo Country
>>17258168>darker pair of grey pantsif you buy the jacket above don't dare mixing greys, but for the cord it'd look good
>>17259123Get out you dumb aussie
>>17252512/fit/ fags what the name of the fabric used on the pants in OP's pic ?
>>17252512Where can I get quality clothes that look just like in the pic?
>>17260331Drake’s Ralph Lauren
>>17260331Many people on the internet buy their clothes from Spier & Mackay.I have never tried themFact of the matter is, for clothes to look good they need to not look creased. To not look creased three things need to happen:1) You must not be a complete troglodyte and actually iron your clothes properly2) You must not be fat. If you are fat they will become a crumpled mess as soon as you put them on.3) The fabrics must not be super thin and lightweight. The meatier they are, the less they will crease. But again, you must not be fat. If you are fat you will just get warmed up and sweat.
>>17260343I’ll check them out, thanks.>>17260430Thanks to you too. I can iron my clothes, I’m not a fat slob, I just wanted to know some brands because it’s mostly fast fashion crap in stores around me so I will have to shop online.
>>17260430>Many people on the internet buy their clothes from Spier & Mackay.>I have never tried themTheir wool trousers are good, especially their high-waisted ones. Their chinos/khakis are not well made and are likely to split at the seam in the course of 2-3 months regular wear. Their shirts are OK but nothing special. Haven't tried their jackets.
do you zoomer dorks not realize that sprezzatura isn't limited to menswear LARP?
>>17252512Rate my shopping list I'm copy-pasting from another thread1. Blue polo2. White OCBD3. White/Gray or Blue Striped OCBD4. Bermuda shorts5. Khaki chinos6. Dark Olive or Khaki cords7. Mushroom Shetland sweater8. Green Shetland sweater9. Tweed blazer10. White poplin dress shirt11. Navy Blue suit12. Solid black tie13. White Spread Collar Tuxedo shirt14. Black bowtie15. Tartan trousers or Black Wool trousers16. Black Velvet dinner jacket17. Barbour Jacket18. Black Oxfords19. Brown Boots20. Brown WeejunsAlso how to become tailor?
>>17263389Sounds okay. How to become a professional tailor depends heavily on the laws of your country, but if you mean as a hobby: buy a book about menswear tailoring techniques or find one that is public domain. Read that and practice following their instructions
How to wear a yellow turtleneck? It loos good with dark blue jeans, but what kind of jacket can you combine it with?
>>17263456Thanks anon.>>17263485>>17263590Anything I should add or take away?
>>17263701It’s a good list just very basic bitch, you dont need bow ties and dinner jackets though if you’re under 50
>>17263389That is ridiculous. You should never buy that many clothes at once, or else you're not only larping but also it's going to look horrible and you'll realize you're confined to just a few contrived, silly, novelty outfits. >>17263711Also this. You aren't a bowtie guy and you don't need a tuxedo AND a separate black tie outfit.
>>17263389>1. Blue polo >2. White OCBD >3. White/Gray or Blue Striped OCBD >5. Khaki chinos>6. Dark Olive or Khaki cords >7. Mushroom Shetland sweater >8. Green Shetland sweater >9. Tweed blazer >10. White poplin dress shirt >11. Navy Blue suit >17. Barbour Jacket >18. Black Oxfords >19. Brown Boots >20. Brown Weejuns ok, if you truly have nothing in your closet>4. Bermuda shorts>12. Solid black tie >13. White Spread Collar Tuxedo shirt >14. Black bowtie >15. Tartan trousers or Black Wool trousers >16. Black Velvet dinner jacket no
>>17263736>>17263711Any advice on what clothes to get?I'm in college and I'm sick of just wearing baggy hoodies.
>>17252512What if I can't afford any of those shops in the OP, is Massimo Dutti a good poorfag choice?
>>17263845This what the fuck
>>17263802Buy the list if you don’t have it, from there buy more color depending on taste, like I said it’s very basic
What's the easiest ways to tell a canvassed suit from a fused one
>>17264153Rub lining against top layer on the right chest above any pockets.Fused: top layer of fabric feels stiffCanvassed: the top layer moves, the lining moves, but you can feel another layer in betweenAlso, if you unroll the lapel you may see stitches on its underside where the canvas is connected to the top layer
>>17252512I bought this years ago on impulse and just found it again. How can I best combine this? What colours and styles and such? Or should I just toss it?
>>17264568Corduroy pants maybe?
>>17264568pink OCBDsand chinos.
>>17264568Brown or bige chinosAlmost any light colored shirt.
>>17264957I'm totally BTFO and I'll never return to this thread
What are some good mid/high waisted corduroy trousers that are more straight fit, no tapered shit please.
>>17266382Seed and Feed
>>17263802Don't buy an enormous list just get a couple pieces of clothing that aren't baggy, why is that difficult? Measure your chest and buy according to the size chart on a website or look at the mirror in the changing room
>>17252512Anyone have recommendations for shops with linen suits in Roma or Firenze?
>>17267898sorry, those don't exist there
>>17263802I would caution you not to buy in to a whole new style at once. Start with a couple pieces and let it evolve from there.
>>17264766>>17264777>>17264793Thanks lads. With regards to shoes, are brown dress shoes the way to go then?
>>17252512Very helpful resources thanks anon