post some TRUE PUNK inspo
i aspire to have as good of a fashion sense as shooter one day
>>17173107>"You can't">"Punk">Together in the same sentenceYeah right you bozo cunt
can christians be punk?
>>17173118If you say shit like this you're a poser
>>17173107Not that i agree with these things, but punks were politically incorrect as fuck back in the day, they were dirty nasty little fuckers.
>he was only doing it to be edgy!can i do it to be edgy?>UNACCEPTABLE
>>17173165the threat of nazi ideaology in the west was at its lowest in the years after the war. modern context of increased authoritarianism and openly nazi protesters makes nazi symbolism so much muddier
>>17173107but punk is 100% counter culture your not punk anymore if you are the culture
>>17173181you're talking about normies, though.you basically just admitted that today's "punks" are normies.punk was always fake and gay but it was less gay before.
jello biafra can get monkeypox and die
>>17173154Punk is contestation If you say you're a punk and that punk should or shouldn't do stuff, you're the poser you fag
>>17173196pedos were THE MOST hated by culture since the 70s but OG punks didnt dress up like jimmy saville did they? they dressed up to piss off boring conservative pearl clutchers who cant handle the idea of a generation free of their preconceptions and control.
>>17173165he did it because CIA paid him to do it
>>17173194>progressives control every single cultural institution and hold sway in the upper echelons of the Federal bureaucracy.>mainstream "conservatives" are the definition of controlled opposition>muh Fascism is right around the cornerKek
>>17173272one of the main things of maintaining their control is making themselves feel like underdogs.pretty astonishing how well it continues to work.eg. how many companies are brave enough not to wear rainbow colours on social media during pride or kiss up to blm?and what happens if they don't?
>>17173292>delusional self-victimization complex
>>17173300not sure if you're talking about me or the behaviour i am describing.but it is pretty clear from history and from what the left is doing that seeing yourselves as being victimized FUCKING WORKS.
>>17173292>>17173306if you seriously believe punk is just blind contrarianism to whatever "The Current Thing is" then you are just as much of a retarded leech as those who blindly agree with whatever "The Current Thing is" and you completely misunderstand the point of the punk movementdefining yourself only in opposition to others is the worst and easiest way to lose your soul
punk is dead
>>17173194lmao kill yourself. Heil Hitler
>>17173218big truth>>17173226actually a lot of punks did fuck underage girls, cope
>>17173418take it back to reditt
>>17173154you will be very surprised, but punk is essentially a protest against the stupidity and absurdness of the society, if i see a shitload of immigrants I will be racist, if i see a shitload of globohomo quotas and special benefits for people who just don't shovel dick in the right place I will say fuck them and that is essentialy what punk means, it's not your fucking tattoos, jeans or shit like this, fuck them
>>17173418That's what punk was about, but now their beliefs are mainstream, so who cares what you think? Punk is dead.
nobody in this fucking thread listens to punk lmao
>>17173576>actually a lot of punks did fuck underage girls, copethis is not the own you think it is>>17173578>no argument generic responsei accept your concession
>>17173107I'm racist and i still listen to punk lmaoWhat are you gonna do about it? You can't even open up a onions bottle nigger
>>17173605>mom! i think i won an argument on 4chan again! this time it’s about woke punk ideals!
I thought punk was about counter culture not just being the popular thing
>>17173630that's right dude being punk is about being mean to marginalized groups now
>>17173418>then you are just as much of a retarded leech as those who blindly agree with whatever "The Current Thing is"lel, my dude. you don't get to play radical centrist fence-sitter when you are advocating for punk being pro-current thing.
>>17173223Racism, homophobia, transphobia are all mainstream. Poltards will never be punk. Is Saudi Arabia punk? Fucking retarded.
>>17173226>OG punks didnt dress up like jimmy savilleNobody knew he was a pedo until the 2010s.>inb4 hurr but they didn't dress like gary glitterPunk as a mindset was dead by the time he got caught.
>>17173711>Racism, homophobia, transphobia are all mainstream>Fucking retarded.I agree, you are fucking retarded..
>>17173711face it, leftist. your lot are winning.if my boss finds out i'm racist - i'm fired.if i interviewed for a job and they knew i was racist - i don't get the job.
>>17173707are you stupid? i never said punk is pro-current thing. i literally said the opposite of that. punk exists outside of the mainstream, not in the centre of it. people like you just dont get it.>>17173712>Nobody knew he was a pedo until the 2010s.LOL retard. heres johnny rotten talking about trying to out saville as a pedohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4OzI9GYag0
>>17173733yes, what i am saying is you appear to be trying to do radical centrist who is above it all while also telling us it's about gay shit so we better not say the gay shit is forced meme from trannies.
>>17173733>trying to out saville as a pedoIf by that you mean just being edgy about a beloved children's tv presenter and radio host. If you actually think he was trying to expose him for being a pedo and not just trying to provoke outrage you are severely mentally challenged. Broken clocks are right twice a day.
>NAZI PUNKS, NAZI PUNKS, NAZI PUNKS, FUCK OFF >NAZI PUNKS, NAZI PUNKS, NAZI PUNKS, FUCK OFF Alternatively, >HEY DO WHAT YOU WANT, BUT DON'T DO IT AROUND ME
>>17173107>you cant be x and y>but why no->YOU JUST CANT OK?
>>17173107I mean is it really that hard not to be a nazi though. The only people that are complaining in this thread about how this is so stupid and arbitrary and "gatekeeping" punk culture are just /pol/ scum
>>17173107I’m barely punk. I dress punk with comfy pants unless I’m going to a bar with a chick. Fuck the jeans, I’m grounded on my uniform of sweat pants and band Ts. I got some fucking SICK bombers for the rest of the year and yes i don’t like black people.Fuck off
>>17173165the third reich was literally a bunch of punks battling against the man
>>17173154punks that are left wing at all are objectively posers. this is the irrefutable, inarguable, factual reality. any argument against it is literal delusion abd/or disinformation.
>>17173716oh no, i feel so bad for you. Racists have endured a lot hate. Im sure there is no group in history that have endured more than you
>>17173716and that's a good thing
>>17173716>>17173908>>17173923You morons, have you forgotten what comes after Weimar?
>>17173973not them but my school's history program sucked, we literally only talked about marie Antoinette and native america. I cant be fucked looking this shit up, please explain anon
>>17173582>punk is being a slave contrary to the popular trends
>>17173107>punk>after the mid 70'sStop posting cringe please.>>17173154Everyone is a poser, punk was only a thing for a short while, then it became a corporate trend, and people started larping and appropriating it to whatever ideologies they hold.
>>17174031Don't get me wrong, there is still decent punk sound, but everyone who claims to be punk is a faggot poser, its like there is still good blues sound today, but no one goes around claiming to be a poor sharecropper, somehow "punks" still do the equivalent of that.
>>17173973A partition of Germany with a based east?
>>17174085The east of Germany is still based
>>17173272you dont understand how politics works or what the left actually is outside of culture war twitter activists.
>>17174017Basically during the 1920s to 30s Germany went from monarchy/empire to democratic federal republic after the war to fascism which really helped start the next war. For the "why", go read wikipedia.
>>17174095These people actually think that the Democrats are on the left. They're lost.
>>17173107Isn't being against the system the true essence of punk?I hate the state, I hate niggers, I hate trannies and I hate feminists desu.
>>17173165have fun with your boy band lmao
>>17173973larp weimar failed because it was a shitty government with shitty systems not because of progressiveness
>>17173107punk is dead, you cant be a "punk" anymore. You can dress as them and larp as then but you'll never be one lmao
you cant be a punk if you wore a face diaper or took the pharma dick
>>17173641punks were never not mean you baby
>>17173120no. and neither can americans.>>17173165i mean he ended up killing a jewish woman (Nancy) so maybe it wasn't just edgy.
>>17174095I understand politics better than you do if you're still buying the notion that public opinion influences anything but the least significant minutae of government.
>>17173154Ignore these boot lickers, they know nothing of punk history and culture clearly
>>17174195The two go hand in hand. An effective state and a strong national identity go hand in hand. Progressivism erodes the latter, rendering the former corrupt and impotent
Godamn it why did this thread get made now? I CAN'T LAUGH MY ASS OFF WITH A FUCKING BAD HEADACHE. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Anywho how much do you want to bet Johnny Rotten made this thread to troll people?
>>17174327Why are all old punks fucking ugly as shit. Don't do heroin if you plan on getting old. If you survive, you will end up like this
>>17173223>>17173582>>17173904>>17174031Look at all these dorks who don't know anything about being punk.
>>17174334I don't know if you can really plan on surviving to old age as a punk. It just kind of happens. Honestly I find it funny as fuck look at him every punk knows his name usually when you're that old and famous you are supposed to look prestine like the perfect role model. But nope johnny rotten looks like your average grandpa maybe even a little worse.
All punks are posers and a lot of old style leftist i met were racist as fuck, leftism is class politics, not liberal idpol. Liberalism=/=leftism
>>17174362>old-style racist leftistsWhere can I meet these people? I never see them are they just hiding in plain sight? Does that mean I can go to a leftist meetup and shout nigger repeatedly without getting beaten?
>>17174340Give it up, punk is dead.You are like the guys larping as 1930s gentlemen.
>>17174112democrats otw (on their way) to not represent conservatism yet somehow be right wing based on the tiny semblance of being "capitalists">leftypol.org Go back
>>17173107Just be naked
>>17174374Pretty common among 70-80+ plus working class men in Britain who were around before the seventies, you seem to mistake leftism for progressive liberalism, they are not one in the same. The things i have heard them say about gypsies, the irish and jokes etc would make the average blue haired freak seethe.You really think leftists in the thirties for example supported transgenderism, gay rights and all this other bullshit in the thirties? would they fuck. Ordinary people were literally starving to death, advancing the interests of the working class is far more important then and now than the feelings of some spoilt middle class brat wanting to be a woman. Karl marx was pretty racist against jews too.
>>17173107Dress like a regular dude? Fuckin use jizz as gel
>>17174107>fascismno it was National Socialism
>>17173107True Punk=Absolute Anarchy IMO. Not Anarco-____. Just Anarchy. Served up like a raw piece of meat for you to prepare as you wish.Even antisemitism's OK because there are zero rules to enforce in such an environment. It goes both ways on such issues, but a true punk telling anyone not to do something is flat-out hypocritical to me.
>>17174444>Karl Marc was pretty racist against jews tooBased? It's funny when people try to claim Marxism is run by jews wasn't Marx himself full-blood German? Maybe it's gotten co-opted since then but at first it definently wasn't run by jews. On another note I'm guessing leftism and progressive liberalism were once completely different things but merged under one banner in order to fight the "nazis". Really it was just another means of controlling the movement though.
>>17173107cool, punk is for kids, and only groomers are interested in that anywayso yeah, groomers are 99% not racist, not sexist and fags/trannies/jannies
>>17174510Marx had jewish ancestry, but he wasn't a practicing jew, he was a christian, anti antisemitism was pretty common in the 19th century too.My point is, the world isn't black and white and even in a socialist society racism can and did exist. I personally don't care what colour someone is but do i think there should be things like mass immigration which only really benefits big business? no.
How did punk manage to endup so fucking gay and cringe while remaining quite popular compared to shit like hardcore?
>>17173107Shut up, Tom.
>>17174579Hardcore and punk is both shit.
Punk was always cringe>t. 14 year old punk 20 years ago
>>17174428>there is only leftism and conservatism
why would you want to be punk? all of them grow up eventually and become down to earth boomers. if you have to be something try being something that you can keep on being your entire life.
>>17173107Dressing traditonally is how i rebel against the western jew overlords pushing degeneracy on everything around me
>>17173111fpbp + trips confirm
>>17177627Sorry bro, but that's what tasteless immigrants dress like to act white and not get fired from their shitty call centre jobs
>>17173194I'm not sure about your country but in mine there were a lot more unironic skinheads in the 80's and society was generally more right-wing.
>>17173218AMERICA FIRST IS INEVITABLE>so is right wing punk-core
>>17174302Your logic is without sound. Progressivism does not directly mean a loss of morals, it can establish and create where there is none. This is clearly necessary, with several new ways the world is and we try to understand it. Just as conservatism in its literal meaning, is capable of eroding and warping its own idea of identity and virtue, because the rationale of sticking to the old ways in the face of a changing world, often requires an unconditional leap of faith. Why are you to expect it'll ever stay the same? That the world isn't under victim to constant entropy in all its shapes? Change for the sake of change is worth nothing. Tradition for the sake of tradition is neither.
Conservatism is the new counter-culture.
Retarded thread, punk is just a blanket term for kids who pissed off old people. It's not an identity and never was.
>>17178637lmaoyou need to stop watching the daily wire to unfuck your brain
>>17174095You are horribly ignorant lmao, the left controls the majority of the institutions period. There's no threat of alt-righters or ebil swastika waving fascists taking over. >>17174112Let me guess, because they aren't all hardcore marxists means they are right wing.
>>17177746Maybe those tasteless immigrants also realize that modern society is on an unstoppable slide into degeneracy, immorality, and filth.
>>17174358perfection is antithetical to the punk ethos
>>17178753describe to me what you disagree with then tell me straight that you get your news from NowThis, Vice, and IG reels
I'm so glad subcultures are dead.
>>17173154>non-confomist punks are posersElemayo
>>17173107 Ironicaly the real punks were neonazis
>>17178187>it can establish and create where there is noneTwo fundamental errors of progressive thought here. Atheism as the touchstone of social organizaton being the first. The second follows and is the the idea that human beings are equipped to define morality. Morals are expressions of value and human values are petty, relativistic, shortsighted, and fleeting. They aren't the kinds of things you can build a civilization on. We aren't equipped to redefine morality and we definitely aren't equipped to create utopia on earth as so many progressives seem to want to do by socially engineering 'solutions' to one problem after another. Any and all attempts to "immanentize the eschaton", end in mass suffering and death. See the French Revolution or the birth of Communism for examples. See also the fact that contemporary morality or what functioning pieces are left of it in the west, are just the centuries decaying skeleton of Christendom.>Just as conservatism in its literal meaning, is capable of eroding and warping its own idea of identity and virtue, because the rationale of sticking to the old ways in the face of a changing world, often requires an unconditional leap of faith.I'm not a conservative. And I don't believe sticking to particular ways and forms is any sort of end. Nor is it possible in a changing world. What must stay fixed though are ethics and values- the spiritual building blocks of a shared social understanding. And they should stay fixed because they are fixed (being properly understood in relation to divinity and man's place in creation).Alteration of ways and forms (and even their diversity between cultures) is perfectly natural over time, but becomes a problem when the values behind the forms are eroded and subverted so that they no longer serve their original function.>That the world isn't under victim to constant entropy in all its shapes?It is, and progressivism is part of that. Its an entropy of values.
>>17179165The Democrats are liberals. Liberals aren't leftists ffs. Fucking politically uneducated morons trying to talk about politics...
>>17179598They wore swastikas to shock the ww2 generation who were still alive during the seventies, not because they were literal Nazis you mong but good job telling a false narrative to push forward an agenda.
>>17179407This is what makes it so funny. Johnny Rotten isn't perfect. His existence mocks the idea of the "perfect" role model you see in media. He's just himself a true poster child of punk.
>>17173107Leftist dogma is completely hypocritical. They say punk is about being yourself and fighting oppression, but then they tell people to stop being themselves conform to leftism and oppress those who go against their doctrine. They're delusional.
>>17173107So nobody posted punk inspo yet, shame
>>17174025His point wasn't to suggest it's contrarian for contrarian's sake. Only that it's the bravery to criticize and oppose whatever aspects of society are the most worthy of criticism. Modern "leftists" are delusional if they think the state of Western societies is going in a positive direction or is in any way sustainable. They fear criticism and that's why authentic punk is more necessary now than it's ever been, and that's why it's as dead as it's ever been. Cultural institutions used to push rebelliousness not out of the virtue of rebelliousness but rather as a way to destabilize. Now that the degenerates own everything, it's no longer cool to be rebellious. Only to pretend that falling in line is still "rebellious"
>>17179598>Thinking British punks unironically wore swastikasFuckin spacker yank
>>17173107All punks are fucking poser
>>17180977>>17180975>>17180974>>17180962>>17180963you don't have any smaller pics? fucking retard
If it's one thing I hate, it's when racist, homophobe nazi's try to usurp communities... star trek, music genres, the republican party...
>>17180988No unfortunately I don't if I did I would post them just to piss you off.
>>17173154if you over think punk for even a microsecond you're a fucking poser, thinking leads to authoritarianism, 100%, every time. you forced me to overthink this to explain this abstract concept to your tiny little mind, so fuck you faggot.
Oh yeah look at me I'm so punk I bought a 20 dollar antiwork tshirt off of redbubble punk is a mOvemEnt
>>17173165you would not be wearing it to be edgy lmao be real
>>17173107>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_punk>a song in the best selling album of the inventors of hardcore punk is homophobic (Bad Brains - Don't Blow Bubbles)>pop-punk sexual harassments>nina hagen being transphobic>nazi symbolism in 70s and 80sthe people who say this are retarded. every music scene in history has those people
>>17173107Woketards are the PMRC of the 20s
>>17173165Fake. Disney told me Sex Pistols didn't wear that. They also wrote a song about a nigger girl.
>>17180965based crass poster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lEko6kMfngclass war > everything else
>>17181310Don't forget all the women raped
>>17181524an esl made this
>>17173107The first punk musicians were racist, sexist, homophobic and didn't even know what a tranny was because they didn't exist in the public conscious.You're a faggot who thinks blue hair, tattoos and stealing other people's art in 2022 is "unironically Punk". You're a pretentious yuppie who treats Punk as if it's this brand new fad, KYS
>>17178635Imagine dressing like every other faggot in California and calling yourself "Punk" lol
>>17173194>>17174095>>17174112>>17179881Ok so the left does not control every aspect of societyLiberals do.Got it.But liberals are opposed to Nazis as well so the original point still stands - the far right is absolutely powerless in modern society.
>You can't be Punk if you don't agree with the popular sentimentHm?
Islamists are the REAL punks now
>>17181804>the far right is absolutely powerless in modern societyI hope so
>>17173107Trans wasn't really a thing when punk was actually relevant.
>>17181568>The first punk musicians were racist....based on what evidence?, Britain is not like america, never was.
>>17181805Is it a popular sentiment? Go to a bar, strike up a conversation with some patrons and casually mention that you’re gay. At best, they’ll back away from you and pretend they didn’t hear that. At worst, you’ll be picking your teeth up off the floor. That is, unless you’re in the 1% of cities with an active lgbt community.
>>17181968do you live in Alabama or something?
>>17181968I live in a run down small town working class shithole, literally no one gives a fuck if you're a bender anymore, stop making shit up. It's not 1982 anymore.
>>17173107>You can't be punk unless you conform to my personal opinions!Average white woman
>>17173154bootlicker lmaoisn't punk relative o anarchy?anarchy means no rules
>>17182352>anarchy means no rulesYou WILL get punched in anarchist communities if you break the "rules". It actually means no hierarchy.
>>17173154A 70s punk told me im the most punk guy hes ever met and I dont dress punk. He said its all about my mindset
i listen to a lot of punk music and i dont dress like it. purely non-performative. punk is liking punk music, and creating punk music.https://www.bitchute.com/video/3OQbbLlc81zf/
>>17173272overtone window has never been as right leaning as now in the past 60 yearsYet the damn right wingers are still larping as oppressed, if being punk is to be opposed to the society's rule then you should be against capitalism and should support the liberation of the body as it strictly gives you more freedom to do what you want of yourself, being right wing in any shape or form is inherantly anti-punk since it's advocating for the homogenization of people be it by race gender or sexuality.
>>17173292>what happen if they dont?Absolutely nothing you delusional dweeb, nobody cares anyway
>>17174025because punk fundamentally is about protest, if you don't think so why the fuck are you spending time on punk place such as 4ch
>>17174230Punk were neither mean nor not mean, punk were just liberating themselves from arbitrary rules, rules such as sexual limitations, gender norms, racial norms, classist segregation, politically correct speech norms etc... Punk isn't about being anti or mean, it's about being violently free
>>17180110if you are a girl, then call me, FOR CHRIST SAKE CALL ME
>>17174334Being ugly is punk lmao
>>17183484>sexual limitations, gender norms, racial norms, classist segregation, politically correct speech normsit was like fifty years ago, wake the fuck up, now only mentioning something about gender makes you as far from being punk as possible, in the first place there was quite 'bureaucratic society' people were tired off, now we are quite free and this freedom is making more harm than good, sides flipped and this is confusing for many people, only what's left from the old punks is the truth you can always go even farther
Punk is fucking boring.
>>17173107Black Flag audiences used to rape women, shut up faggot.
>>17174112Congrats, you are a foot soldier for them
>>17184055...what the fuck are you talking about?
>>17173107low quality bait image
Punk is a music genre. There I said it the truth is out. Can you guys please shut up now?
>>17182558>le punchedyou will get shot by a FGC9, illegal ghost gun that anyone can download that or knifed to deathyou're a LARPer, I can feel it
>>17184988I'm not even an anarchist, what the fuck are you talking about?
I love that wearing suits and dressing punkish has never been mutually exclusive. It's just more what kinda suits you wear, how you wear it, and what with. Dressing like a punk rocker on jury duty absolutely fucks as a style of dress
>>17173111I tried getting in touch with one of the musicians that played a set at Doomerfest 2022, Cyborg9K, to see if I could be their stylist, to try and do for the whole doomer E-punk* scene what vivienne westwood did for the sex pistols and such, because as great as the music is, I feel like it's missing that visual element (or "chudrock", as i personally like to call it, "incelcore" is a retarded name)We actually got a ball rolling with a concept, and found some peices to buy for it, but I came in only a month before the thing was supposed to start, so we didn't have time to wait for anything to arrive, so he just had to throw something together. I kinda like to think that what he wore on stage was due in some part to me reaching out to him, but whatever, it is what it is I guess.I'll give more details if asked.
>>17187583got any pics that are higher quality? cant see shitalso I wont say all punk is left wing, but all good punk is. Righties are good at doing what their daddies told them, punk is about breaking shit, not sticking to tradition.
>>17181968this sounds exactly like when those kinds of weirdos say "TRANS PEOPLE ARE BEING MURDERED IN THE STREETS EVERYDAY" and provide no further evidence or explanation.
>>17187609You try breaking shit at a concert and see what happens. Only shitheads who've never gone to a concert in their lives say this. Sure there's rule-breaking at punk concerts, but you better not harm anyone else or any of their things that shit is not tolerated. Punks look out for eachother.
https://youtu.be/CsA3d4oNQoELyrics:You spend your life on welfare linesOr looking for handoutsWhy don't you go find a jobYou birth more kids to up your checksSo you can buy more drugsCash in food stamps and get drunkUncle Sam takes half my paySo you can live for freeI got a family and bills to payNo one hands money to meYou can go to school for nothingGot that government grantGet money in advanceWhen you're sick from shooting upMedicaid pays full portionWhen little Maria gets knocked upShe gets a free abortionUncle Sam takes half my paySo you can live for freeI got a family and bills to payNo one hands money to meYou can go to school for nothingGot that government grantGet money in advanceWhen you're sick from shooting upMedicaid pays full portionWhen little Maria gets knocked upShe gets a free abortionHow come it's minorities who cryThings are too toughOn TV with their gold chainsClaim they don't have enoughI say make them clean the sewersDon't take no resistanceIf they don't like it go to hellAnd cut their public assistance
>>17190599this has a post apocalypses raider mad max-esque vibe
>>17173165If you think punks don´t do Nazi shit for fun anymore, you don´t know punks.Last time I hung out with punks, I vividly remember them singing stuff by "Die Zillertaler Türkenjäger" (The Turk-Hunters from Zilltertal) and other Nazi-Bands for fun.
>>17183477>overtone window has never been as right leaning as now in the past 60 yearsI'm gonna need some examples
>>17173165Nazis are very punk, fighting against Jews
>>17181568fat austistic retard spotted, the first punk musicians werent any of those things. The whole idea of punk was rebelling against the older more conservative generation via music, clothes and vulgarity.
>>17183396racist underground punk music from new jersey is quite possibly the gayest most larpy thing ive ever seen
>>17191909you didnt even adress the second paragraph which proves you wrong
>>17193539Sort of but they were also differentiating themselves from the self indulgence of the hippie movement by having short hair, or by their fiercely rigid song structures. Johnny Ramone for example was. A card carrying member of the KKK.
>>17173107>No True Scotsman!
The funny thing about faggots that try to be "punk" thinking they're going against the grain of society is that they actually are going with a grain, just a niche one that isn't mainstream. They still care about what their peers think of them within their curated bubble of fake counter culture. Their edge is also completely flaccid. A 20something strutting around and cursing with spiked hair in dark clothes is laughably tryhard. There's nothing more punk and grim than a middle aged suburban father in 2022.
>>17193906>>17187574this is my fashion sense
>>17174091based me too
>>17174091I heard that refugees get beaten up if they go into the east especially in Saxony.
Black metal is the real punk!!!