Anybody have alternatives to pic related? I like them but every zoomer in my town wears them
>>17160381Converse
>>17160381What >>17160609 saidMight I recommend the Converse Pro Leather
>>17160614>>17160609Impressive, very nice
/fa/ approved?If not, post recs for something better
>>17160629Pretty autistic unless youre going to wear them ironically or something. Respectfully
What sneakers can I wear to impress effay asian girls?
>>17160638balenci reps just wear rep balenci everything
>>17160641That avia is $90? I thought they only made $20 shit at walmart.
>>17160859They're releasing their retro stuff finally. Virgil abloh ripped off this design for an LV shoe.
>>17160381Yeah get regular blazer rather than the horrible 77s.
muroexe has some unique stuff, I also like AllBirds though they're not really an /fa brand
Can someone help me ID these shoes?They look so familiar but can’t find them
>>17160958Muroexes look like the most generic shoes I've ever seen.
looking at two axel arigatos, unsure which once I should consider more
>>17161397thoughts?
>>17161397this one
>>17161506thanks, thats what I was leaning towards as well
please give ur thoughts on these
>>17161531a bit too much, not sure what Id wear them with
Saw these rivalries pop up on adidas. These are nice
any thoughts for this?
>>17161529oh shit, i'm sorry
>>17160381im just here to spread the word of the artistical genius that is Ye and his creative outlet that is Yeezygosh darn it i love meself the Yeezy Slides i myself own two pairs of it and stocked up my whole family with pairsand im not even talking about amzingly innovative models like the knit rnnr boot or the foam rnnr boot or the knit rnnr or the foam rnnr or the 450 pr the 1050he is the only one who isnt a retrofag and still puts out new designs with callbacks to sneaker history thanks to other yeniuses working for him like steven smith who is as forwardthinking like ye and a creative juggernauteven with you fags calling us yeheads stuck in 2017 we are certainly notbut you are certainly stuck in the 90s-2000swho put slides on the map? yewho put foam clogs on the map? yewho put dad shoes on the map? yewho put knit sneakers on the map? yewho will put the next big thing on the map? im going with ye on this oneFUCK YOU KIM K HOW COULD YOU HURT THIS KIND SOUL IN THIS WAY?!?
C/N? Too sporty?
>>17161684retard
>>17160614can you skate in these?
>>17161559looks like blazers without the blaze, kinda converse like
does anyone have a beater shoes infographic/guide thats any good?? i saw one on here a while ago that i liked but now i cant find it anywhere :|
>>17160614i already got the blazers but im thinking of getting these as well. Pro Leather looks better than chucks and i will die on this hill
>>17160381
>>17161212adidas supercourt rx maybe
>>17161559canvas on those are not really good and it lacks rubber reinforcement in the toe area
>>17161542only buy them if you're trans
>>17161684>>17161686they look like autism shoes
>>17162404They are! Thank u anon!!!
anyone recognize these or have any similar recs? just looking for a big chunky black athletic shoe
>>17162804REEBOK DMX TRAIL SHADOW
I got these, I like em
What's Terry wearing here?
>>17162833Oh whoops
>>17162838Well I guess I'll go fuck myselfIf ya care their some air forces 1 mids 07 Qs(chocolate and cream)
>>17162837reebok club c
>>17160381ive same exact model and theyre falling apart after 2 yearsgonna get some other hi tops
>>17162829https://www.reebok.com/us/reebok-premier-road-modern-mid-men-s-running-shoes/GW6192.htmlI found these as well, open to other recs too
you guys ready for shoe of the year? they release in 4 days
I like Skechers
>>17162871>2 yearsThat’s a year longer than they’re supposed to last. Why are you complaining?
Why did Yeezy fall off so hard?
>>17163307You saying they are doesn’t mean they are
>>17160941Avia are doing re-release? FUCKING BASED!
>>17163307didnt get the memodont care
I want these motherfuckers like you have no idea, can't believe I missed them
Why do people like chunky soles??
>>17163193There's a stray pube on the toe
Cop?
Best night-shift-schizo core shoe?
Any thoughts on these?
>>17164060nahh
thoughts on adidas bravada
>>17164196just get some converse if you want that lookor vans
>>17164206I like adidas too much though
>>17164208ehh i used to be an adidas superfan but those shoes are just mid. not a fan of the direction theyre going with their mainstream stuff
>>17164210adidas has the best sneakers though
>>17164214that's your agenda brother :flex: :flex:
>>17164227post your shoe collection
>>17164231you're not gonna like it :flushed:
>>17164251do it anyway
>>17164258will you post yours if i post mine?
Anyone know any good running shoes that are also /fa/?
>>17160614>>17160381Are the low top blazers worth getting? I think i have gotten to the point where I am too old for high tops. I'm 27
What are you copping for yeezy day
>>17161212knockoff 500s
>>17164231>>17164270Do it phags (phaggots)
>>17164270yes
>>17164231>>17164327>>17164355ok, but i warned you. next on my list are dark green 550s, thought i like the sky blue dunks. i have some others i was too embarrassed to share. located in PNW so not a big shoe scene here.
craziest looking white sneakers up to like $800?
>>17164360Genuine question, but what the actual fuck do you wear with top right? I can't imagine leaving the house in those and not immediately wanting to walk into moving traffic
>>17164360> too embarrassed to share.like? also your tastes is basically generic basketball sneakers
>>17164060yes
>>17164382nike releases lately are nothing special. new balances are pretty nice i would keep an eye on those drops because they're getting big. but if you want something with crazy construction reebok is coming out with some really cool designs lately. check out the instapump furys. i think they're really ugly but really cool at the same time. i think they could be styled really well. or yeezy is dropping rereleases this month (august 2nd and 3rd) which are becoming cult classics>>17164386just like birks, hiking sneakers, and some basic bitch boots. i'm hoping to expand soon but it's fun starting out with the basics and learning what goes well with them :) i wore a lot of thrifted clothes growing up so i started with a basic black/white low budget capsule wardrobe after moving out and am now finding what colors fit my complexion well.>>17164385i threw them on with some dolphin shorts and a big t shirt to shop at costco lol. you can either understate the rest of your outfit to have them be the main focus or you can go all out, anything in the middle will look bad imo.
>>17164403i was thinking something more like this crazy not gaudy sandals
get the off-whites
Cop or Not?
>>17164412LMAO i was going to say off whites but i have mixed feelings on them!! for sure if you like them go for it. do NOT go for the basic b/w arrows but the jordans and the hi tops look really good imo. if you post some that you're interested in i'd love to go through them w you.
>>17164428since there was also reebok mentioned i checked their site and found these, ain't that crazy looking and not all white (i really want them fully white) but they're really cool anyway, call me a retard now but these are also cheap and i would rather buy some designer/luxury ones just to flex with them lol
Waverunners, turtledoves and mx carbon foam runners better be on confirmed god damn it!
>>17164452all trash besides waverunners
>>17164435i like those ones except for the navy on the heel, i posted >>17164184 i think they're a fun basic shoe, i just convinced a friend to get them. if you want all white the picrel is the nike 90 air max.new balance also has some good releases lately though unfortunately everyone is dropping "sail" colorways which i'm not a big fan of. you really can't go wrong with 550s i think they'll be in for a long while now that everyones back into retro chunkies.
>>17164455>>17164455yeah i realize how meh yeezy designs were after other people started to do similar ones like the adillettes. i haven't been hyped for any yeezys this year outside those purple foams
>>17164456not bad but like you said a bit basic, i want some "attention whores". ive also found these, no white only colorway but i also like red, the problem with those would be creating the whole drip to match the shoes
>>17164452i have a soft spot for the zebras...
>>17164462oh i really like those!! desu if you want a fun shoe i would go into a local shop, we have bait in my area and go see what some of the new releases are, check how they fit and how they go with your current fit. we were going to pick up some af1s because he wanted a super basic classic shoe and they looked really clowny on him. that's where i saw the new reeboks which look so much better in person. plus if you go to a good store they'll be able to tell you what's selling well and work with you a bit more.
want to pick up some high top chuck 70s. I don't like the look of pure white shoes because of how bright they are, would something like papyrus or cream be as versatile? Or should I just go with a regular white or the cdg meme?
>>17164473cdg are funi signed up for converse website and got 20% off on my birthday last month so i could get some brand new basic black highs.the cream converse with the lug sole are really cute too imo.
Is ultraboost too ugly? I need a sneaker to use everyday and I can't find anything that I like where I live. I have one nike blazer like op pic but it hurts me.
>>17161539Pants
>>17164701I like the older models much more. Get a pair in a more neutral colorway though - whites, cream, greys.
>>17164473cdg are ultimate fag shoes and i immediately judge anyone with them. just stick to plain white, they look the best when worn in and dirty which is the best look for chucks
>>17164727Black is neutral. Stop.
>>17164743? How the fuck is black a neutral colorway Also UBs look like complete garbage in black, especially the ones he postedThe lighter colors hide the stitchings and toebox vents and shit much more which gives a way nicer silhouette
>>17164727what ultraboosts are those in your pic? i really like the color
>>17164754>How the fuck is black a neutral colorway?Idk maybe because it's the literal definition of a neutral color?
>>17164196ew no, if you really want some adidas get a pair of Sambas or Gazelles
>>17160381Who cares if zoomers like them, man? They're rad sneakers, just get them if you like them. Just copped me a pair.
Need black or gray non-nigger sneakers - any suggestions ?
>>17164810lmao clown shoes
Are Adidas NMD shoes a meme or are they actually worth it?
>>17164964ive heard boost shoes are really comfortable but i always thought the nmd was a bit overcooked
>>17165019wtf is overcooked
Best shoes I've bought all year. Get more compliments than any yeezy ive worn
>>17164810i stay away from any many that wears nikes or any type of big stupid chunky nigger shoe
>>17164184literally copped these hella comfy and they look even better in person
>>17164473papyrus is one of the best and it is not made from recycled polyester
How trash is the quality on jumbo blazers
>>17160381r8 my rotationdocs homie gave me i forgot the model name, oski dunks to flip, sacai and fpar blazer lows both for the officekoston signed dunk lows(sentimental pair), hoka clifton 8, dill sambas, jm weston moc 180 in burgundy, LA dunk lows and sean pablo one stars both to skate
>>17161687they made a skate specific pair for a min, al davis had a set of two cons pro models this being one pair i perferd his other, the fast breaks. they skate like a more flexible better flicking but less durable half cab
>>17165770I like the sacai blazers but didn’t cop because they’d probably look like clown shoes on my giant feet
>>17165342the wales boner collab is soooo good. the detail on the ribbing of the track jackets is godly really jealous of the shoes too. so many good colorways
>>17165789they look good with more strait/relaxed cut pants. but ya they do look larger than they are but its not crazyi got both paris of blazer for half price so im happy with them
>>17165770Bruh put those red laces on the shark joints
>>17165342>>17165790I fucking love them too. Been mainly rocking the red pair though. Can't wait to put the green laces in it for an Xmas feel this winter.
>>17160381i bought two pairs, both sucked
>>17164810Lookin nice and gigantic bro
Just picked up 550s
just ordered these filling pieces, never tried the brand before, will see how good they fit
>>17164360ahahaha
>>17165770based hoka
>>17166047I'm sorry to hear that
Might pick up a Yeezy Boost, thoughts?
>>17166047Based
Beckett Simonon gats came inOrdered these back in like April
>>17167075 I don’t wear sneakers often though mostly boots
>>17167078>>17167075Congrats anon, those are the worst looking GATs I have ever seen.
>>17167075yo is that your fucking ceiling
>>17167075>>17167078Is it too late to return them?
>>17166047how does it feel to be late to the cringiest sneaker trend of 2022?
Why are these the most kino sneaker of all time?
I want those core reds bad
>>17164435What model is that?
>>17167314be ready to pay resale
What we thinking? These with jeans, polo and beige ralph lauren jacket.
thoughts?
>>17167424if you wear ralph lauren u have already lost and are ngmi
Reminder to get yourself the sneaker of the year
>>17163234i rarely used them because I had other shoes
>>17167075>>17167078>take one of the most iconic sneakers of all time>dye them black on black>slap on waxed laces for good measurebut why would you ruin them like this?
>>17167610They come with regular laces though
>>17167577Makes me want to buy them.
did adidas discontinue continental 80s?
>>17167358I just got them on confirmed
Anyone know hows the quality on the wales bonner sambas? They look a bit low quality...
>>17167594When where?
>>17167212Feels good man
are air max still acceptable to wear? i might buy these ones, they look fun, they have cute mushrooms on the back
>>17167822They look like the kind of sneakers little nigglets in elementary school would wear.
>>17167864perfectas a white dude in his thirties, it's exactly the look i'm going for
>>17167645well good shit then
based
Should I cop this or
>>17168188this
>>17168188Nah wait for more colorways or something. The two they released look like mcdonalds shoes
>>17167075>>17167078am i retarded for liking these?whats the other alternative for slim black sneakers with a bit of neutral colour (gum) on them? legit thinking of getting these now but im seeing you guys shit on them so idk
just got the 700 v3 confirmed, realised too late that they were a lot more cream than white xD.Might just try them on a few times and then resell them on ebay if I don't like em
>>17168190this one for sure of those two
whats the consensus on hoka one one?
What's the meme sneaker for this season? Gave up on fashion a while ago but still need to fit in with normies because of reasons. Should I just get new pair of Stans and call it a day?
>>17168310>>17166047
>>17168225Black/gum isn't really neutral it's kind of edgy looking. White goes much better with earth tones imo. If you like the aesthetic though some black Reebok classics would look way nicer
which yeezy boost v2 350 color is the best? I mainly wear white track suits and black track suits
why are sneakers so fucking gay? the only decent ones are made in "limited runs" so sneakerheads have something to jerk off to.fuck you fags.
Fell for the Samba meme today and got the ones on the right. Have to replace my Stan Smiths.
Wish I could find a pair of these
>>17168681do they squeak?
>>17168693I just ordered them today. Are Sambas known to be squeaky?
>>17168696Not that guy, but I don't remember them being squeaky unless playing indoor football, I used to wear them all the time back as a kid.
>>17168702Ok great. I mean, it makes sense that they squeak indoors, otherwise they wouldn't have any grip lol.
What lacing method do you guys prefer
>>17164810holy shit, is the circus in town?>>17167539these are ugly as shit.
>>17168225Who cares what “people” here think. I liked them so I bought them and posted them here. Only downside was the wait time
>>17168691I'd rather wear a loaf of bread as shoes than this
What are some effay all-black shoes? Thoughts on pic rel?
>>17168754Oxfords.Chelsea boots.Loafers.
>>17168754boring but go for it
>>17168755I'm talking about sneakers.>>17168758This shoe or triple black in general?
>>17168770Black sneakers aren't effay.
>>17168770that shoe in particular
>>17168776Why don't you recommend another one then
>>17168782I dont know any shoes im new
>>17168786Fair enough
>>17164810I was going to make fun of your clown shoes however I agree with your point - if you like shoes then just buy them, it’s called having individuality
>>17165342How does the material look irl? I backed out of buying these shoes because I was afraid that the nylon would make it look chea/tacky. If they are good then I may reconsider
My shoe size on vans is 9.0 men's U.S.If I'm buying ADIDAS/NIKE/YEEZY should I go up half a size for maximum comfort?
>>17168834You can't make generalizing statements like that, it doesn't work. Different shoes have different fits and lasts.For example my Stan Smiths are size 44 while I went with 42 on my Sambas, both of them fit perfectly.
>>17167539incredibly based. asics is slept on
Thoughts on these?
Which one is better?This..
>>17168954or this?
>>17168834Depends on the shoe. For Nike AF1 are a bit wider than the AJ1, for example.
Opinions on these sneakers? Should I cop?
>>17168955red and white is a top tier color combination, anon
These still rock honestly
>>17161531Fucking dope colors but I'm not the biggest fan of the shape, seems too basic
>>17168842what? i wear 42,5 on stan smiths, does that mean size 41 sambas will fit me lmao
>>17168990amazing skate shoe. toe has the best most consistent flick. tongue is annoying tholooks good w everything too
Fila Tracer TR2 cop or notif not rec me similar white/offwhite sneakers
>>17170390Looks good. Not as obnoxious as other bulky sneakers.
>>17170390Doesn't look badDoesn't look good either
>>17164754dude, what? How is black not neutral?
>>17168139Trying to cop a pair myself.
>>17170932Update, just bought one
>>17164308Anyone lol
Been window shopping for new shoes for a little minute cause Ive been getting into Dancerush. Which of these would you guys say is probably best for shuffling? Leaning toward the Suedes and Chucks rn
>>17170956I lol
>>17170956i dont know what those shoes are
>>17161212has anyone actually bought these? i found a cheap pair online but i'm not entirely convinced.
>>17170992they're good my friend wears them
>>17163422thank god u missed them cuz they ugly af
>>17171030they are not
I have no black or dark grey shoes - aside from Eytys Mother with white rubber trim - and was thinking of buying these. I've found that black shoes tend to look very undefined and bloblike when worn with black pants, although I tend to find this moreso when looking down rather when looking in a mirror. I don't think these will be available where I live so I can't really try them on. Any solutions aside from wearing pants of a different colour?
>>17164701I have top left pair they are comfy as fuck
What do we think of these kicks with some wax black jeans
>>17171277
What sneakers go best with this leather blazer?
>>17171253>Any solutionsbuy boots
>>17161687i tried skating this exact pair yesterday,wasnt great, over all i prefer a thinner sole for boardfeel
>>17171287ones that will make you walk away from a leather blazer
Are Adidas nizzas good enough?
Between Adidas superstar parleys gv7615 and Adidas forum mid parley gv7616, which ones should I get? Also, are slip ons that bad for wearing around college or in public etc?
These shoes are pretty sick. I got laid wearing these
These are great shoesI can work in them, or lift heavy, or wear casually they have fantastic grip and I like the shapebut they absolutely fucking stink because the canvas material makes my feet sweat badIs there ANYTHING this shape, chucks, vans, whatever, but with a mesh top??
Probably a lost cause, but can anyone ID that sneaker model for me?
These arrived today. I like 'em
Y/N?
>>17171691Buy the normal forum lows in white w black stripes. Parley is for ecofaggots who drive priuses and wear patagonia fleece
>>17172258Parley is notoriously sweaty as fuck, it doesn't breath at all or let moisture throughIf you are okay with that I think they look pretty nice
>>17169349Dont trust this other faggot. Im an adichad. Superstar, forum, gazelle, stan smith, sambas, adilette all in the same euro size. Obv gazelle or sambas arent as wide as the others.
>>17172267Those are like 20 bucks more though>>17172271I live in SEA I'm used to it desu
>>17171853This looks similar https://thehouseoflrc.com/products/good-man-brand-legend-london-classic-sneaker-g97l-11?variant=37669528338589
ship my yeezyz already
Are low blazers cringe?Are these cringe?I think I am too old for high top sneakers
>>17172384my dad wears jordan high tops in his 50s who gives a fuck
>>17172384>Are these cringe?Asking this is the true cringe
>>17172398High tops are very edgyOnly zoomers wear them now
>>17167212>he cares about the ebb and flow of trends and not the shoeNGMI
When the fuck are the NB 990v6 coming out??? We barely have any new info on them!
>>17171717
>>17167212i just wanna be comfy
what's your opinion on adidas nmd
Puma bringing these back, what are your thoughts?
>>17169323based
>>17160381Rockin the 990v4’s today
I haven't bought new sneakers in ages, when did companies start doing the gay ass false scarcity bullshit?Its literally impossible to get as basic a shoe as a samba in a non shit color scheme. I remember going to a store as a kid and them being everywhere.
>>17172879
>>17172882
>>17172826Gay sock-shoe
yey or ney
>>17167822>>17167891As a man in his 30's that just bought the 97 Air Sprung, I approve
>>17164810These are the shoes from Like Mike. A comfy movie and therefore you are extremely based.
>>17171279what is the model name of this shoe? i cant find it anywhere
>>17161397what's with the ventilation on the sole of the shoe? lol looks like a gameboy
anyone with yeezy 350's go up a whole size? i've seen people say that going up half a size on certain models won't quite be enough but i don't want to end up buying a shoe that's way too big.
>>17173394Went up half a size 9.0 to 9.5s, should get the shoe in a few WEEKs because stockx is cringe but ill tell you then
Anybody know where to get some good ass sail/offwhiteish colored laces everything ive seen been too creamy
guys...i did it...how do i wear this??
>>17173420on your feet nigga
These came in today
>>17172288thanks anon
>>17173412reebok club c 85 is better
>>17173428ID?
>>17164060looks homosexual>>17164196>>17168990>>17171279>>17172826would be better if the stripes were also black or dark grey>>17164184>>17164810>>17173420would be better if the swoosh was beige or grey and stood out less>>17164403>>17164412>>17164435>>17164462>>17164466>>17168139>>17168946>>17168950>>17168954>>17169323>>17170390>>17172852>>17172843>>17168955>>17173204looks awful and ironic and only sells because a le celebrity promoted it>>17164456sole is too chunky>>17164473high ankles are awful unless you only wear long pants>>17164701top or bottom right if you must but the sole is ugly>>17164727>>17171841cop>>17165342awful color>>17166078cop>>17166047cop>>17167075>>17167078looks like shoes you wear for tap dancing>>17167249>>17168691>>17168681>>17172863>>17173171ugly but coppable>>17167539ugly chunky sole>>17167594>>17167822>>17168188>>17168190>>17172384>>17172879>>17172882>>17168675>>17173412ugly colors>>17171253do not cop>>17172258ugly black>>17173428return them
>>17173732Why haven't you rated my pic, you retarded spastic faggot.
>>17164385Anon that replied is right you need to buy into the entire yeezy commune style for it to work except for a few pieces that can look good with other styles
I LOVE THIS GENERAL!!!!
>>17173724new balance 9060 its there newest silhouette
I haven't kept up with the sneaker game but gonna dump some past stuff I saved
might cop some of these if ok with you guys
Are there any salomon or hiking trail sneakers with this colorway, off white grayish/mint blue outside accents?
>>17172826its a good basic shoe for basic plebs
If my feet perfectly fit puma's night runners in US size 11 does that mean buying some other puma shoe in US size 11 like a super liga og retro will also fit about as well?
>>17174033These actually look decent.ID?
>yeezys shipped
Gonna try and get these. Is SNKRS legit?
>>17174468snkrs is owned by nike so yes
>>17174318no, puma sizing is wack i got some turin 2s and those were smaller that my other pumas, check reviews about it
>>17171367were you doing tricks or just cruising?
Stadium Goods offered me $1125 for my Air Jordan 1 Retro High OG Shadow's and my Yeezy Boost 350 V2 Black (Non-Reflective). Good price or not?
>>17171717HOLY SWAG! This is the op. Came back to check if I had any replies and saw I got some cool digits. I’m never going to forget this day. Here’s a cute girl
Anyone use some of these for outdoors shit , curious if they are comfortable
>People get panda dunks when this exists Why?
>>17160381Any tips on avoiding heel blisters? Got some new novesta high tops that fit perfectly on the sole (arch support is exactly in the right spot), but they rub into my heels. I know this will eventually go away as the fabric softens up but I'd prefer not to get bloodstains inside them in the meantime.
>>17175267get moleskin
Would these be enough for the obligatory 'white sneaker' or should I just have gotten the white/grey
i like how these look but i guess they arent good?what do you think?
>>17164964They look nice but they're not that comfortable imo, no space to add an insole either. If you get they them discounted they're alright tho
Is it normal that novesta shoes are a little "unfinished"? Mine has these mold sprues on the rubber parts.
>>17175527
>>17174321nike really knocking off the 574 here
>>17167539Based
>>17172879Too clean!
who /tisza/ hereits a based eastern european alternative to the gazelle
>>17175870based hungarian
>>17174321Internationalist
>>17175527>>17175528looking at pics of them it seem normalkinda shit of them not to clean that up though
>>17177647my mom wears these for garden work
Bros what the fuck is up with Yeezys? I keep hitting larger sizes of the 350 but it still crushes my toes. There’s plenty space length wise for my feet and toes but the top part of the shoe leaves very little space for my toes
thoughts on wrestler shoes?i am forced to wear them because i have size 15 us men feet
>>17178387Jordans also come in 15
>>17178392>jordans ew
I got em bros
>>17177647Oh well, nothing a pocket knife can't solve. Just glad I finally got something that looks close enuff to pic related (WW2 USMC Jungle Shoes) which nobody makes repros of for whatever fucking reason, despite a gorillion copies of the even more obscure poopenfarter-jager cum-smock.
>>17164184bought these. love em
sneaker ID help please. White adidas
guys how do I get these outside of stockx
>>17179841Anywhere?It’s even on jd https://m.global.jdsports.com/product/blue-new-balance-2002r/409860/
>>17179844thanks love
>>17179844wait no I want the deep ocean ones
A girl made fun of me for spending 180 dollars on a shoe
>>17179928>caring about female opinions NGMI
>>17179552Beaten up Adidas Originals Americana I think