Nobody where I live wears a suite: Every professional wears bussiness casual, and civilians dress like slobs or dress casual.
wearing a whole hotel room would be impressive, actually
are they giants or something? they are huge I'm comparison to the coffee mugs
>>16998915That says a lot more about you than them>>16999667That's not coffee, it's espresso you uncultured swine.
>>16999686>espresso isn't coffeeOkay pal
>>16999726espresso is served in espresso cups, not "normal" cups, that's what i meant
>>16999686Please make me an espresso without coffee please.
Nothing serves to inflame the inferiority complex of the so-called modern man more than the sight of another man putting in effort. It's a race to the bottom with these people.
>>16998915if that's what you see then you are literally mentally ill and are surrounded by the same
>>16999913Based samurai and poster.
>>16999941Mishima was not only effay as fuck but is a great source of inspiration for fighting cultural decay and for commentary on the death of effort.
>>16999951It is sad indeed that people don't put any effort into what they wear anymore and people who do are scorned, even the poorest in society in the past tried to look respectable.
>>16998915Sounds based, suits intimidate and anger the normies and retards. The amount of seethe a simple suit can cause on /fa/ is incredible
>>17000082Funny isn't it how such a simple item of clothing worn by all classes for decades causes so much seething by people who think wearing a pair of jeans and a dress shirt is ''dressing up''
>>16999966The death of suiting is only a symptom of the greater cultural attitudes we face. Obesity is another.
>>16999913Very accurate . Cultural decay.
>>16999966By the standards of the 1930's, those guys were dressed like bums.However, they understand something a lot of anons ITT do not. You either get to dress how you want to, or you have to dress like someone else wants you to. In understanding this, you understand your standing on the social ladder.
>>16998915All professional clothes are a costume.I am sometimes expected to wear a suit at work, when visiting clients or if we organize an event.My brother is a chef, he does not even own a suit. But he wears aprons and stuff that I do not own.
>>16998915>wear a suit>people ask if i'm going to a job interview>people mistake me for a security guardEven worse now in tech... everyone tries to dress like fucking zuckercuck or steve jobs, no one wears formal clothingThey're shocked I wear a button down and shoes, even this is over dressed... for a fucking analyst/data scientist. I walk down the street and if I'm wearing a white shirt 100% chance of homesless people approaching and begging for money (city of london). Fucking pieces of shit probably make more money then me and don't even pay rent. the worst is that women will 100% throw them selves at a guy wearing a suit even if the guy next to him in a t shirt is his boss and makes 100x because they can't understand how money/status actually works. Those guys are posing for a wedding photo, anyone wearing a suit and not working in a high tier job/business is cringe/autism, and if they wear one whilst not being mandated by their employer too.
>>17000934I like menswear but the fact that people think all it is office attire or shit autist wear make me stay away from it, shame because experimenting with patterns and colours is so much fun.
>>17000943unless you have 10m + net worth you can't be "casually" wearing a suit.
>>17000946Lmao at that ameribrain logic
>>17000874But what we are talking about here is the effort. They are not wearing jeans, a tshirt and plain sneakers, they actually dressed to the best their monetary condition allowed. They could be wearing just pants and a shirt and call it a day.
>>16999686>That's not coffee, it's espresso you uncultured swine
>>17000946Or unless if you work in finance, law, real estate and many other professions where you're expected to wear oneIf you want to be wearing suits, find a good job
>>17000957This, i'm going to respect someone more if they try to look smart but not get everything right rather than someone who dresses like a slob and doesn't care at all. Considering the people in the photo would've been very poor compared to today i think they look very nice considering, compare them to a billionaire like mark zuckerberg who goes to meetings wearing a t shirt and jeans.
>>16999951>commentary on the death of effort.which one of his books elaborates on that ?
>>16998915>literal janny irl>put on a shirt and tie for weekendsit helps im an anti-social cunt
>>17000946I'm bi I can wear whatever I want.
>>17000960maybe law is the good one of those99% of finance people do shit work and are paid like shitreal estate lol...
>>16998915>>17000946>Get a goddamn job, Anon. You've got a negative attitude! That's what's stopping you! You gotta get your act together.
Damn suits sure do make retards insecure
>>17000874it was the cultural norm to dress like this
>>16999966we have this thing called modern heating which means we dont need to be convered head to toe in 3 layers of coats we also have modern hygiene which allows people to bathe and not build up must and dirt in their clothes for days these men are literally all dressed exactly the same showing no personal style at all, stop being a nostalgiafag
>>17001261when the coping is strong
>>17000960I'm an engineer and after covid most of these slobs dress even worse than before. Under armour polos and ugly jeans
>>16999913well said anon, unforutnely people want to dress like 12-year old eboys who just woke up an hour ago and call it streetwear
Is there anything more disgusting than an open sportscoat with jeans?
>>17000957well said, I use to have this attitude that being any effort into yourself is feminine and that men just do whatever and can be presentable for some reason society is obsessed with having men act like children
>>17001261>massive cope>reddit spacing
>>17001342yeah i don't like sports coat with jeans at all I would prefer chinos with a sports coat
>>17000973Most of his books do in different ways. Consider the transition Japan was going through during his life. The man was born maybe exactly one generation too late and saw his whole country go to shit.
>>17001342>>17001356Sportcoat with outdoor wear.
>>17001350>complaining about """reddit spacing"""go back
>>16999913The industrialist uniform (note the meaning of that word, uniform, as in the same) is not a good thing. It’s intentionally void of choice and customization, because you aren’t you while wearing a uniform, you are your profession. It is literally a costume If you want to act in bad faith, go ahead.
>>17001586If you have a repectable profession you naturally identify with it and the people you share it with. Natural in group forming. They are now your "tribe". Which kinda explains why non-ingroup people get salty, when people belonging to the suit-tribe self-assuredly walk around them. As well why non-suit-tribe people will degade and trash talk them (unattentive to the fact that they themself are dressing in a uniform manner to their tribe (skater, goth, zoom-normie pop-culture, you name it). They all have their uniform, while claiming that they themself are individualisticly dressed. Same goes for other professions like stay at home mothers or even a lack therefore like NEETs. It's basic human animal nature. And everything ou claim about suit bots, will also catch up with your own style.
>>17001613Shakespeare was right. All the world’s a stage, and all the men and women are merely players. There are, however, degrees of freedom here. Yes, in the presence of others you always play a role to some extent, but that does not justify choosing to play one that is particularly inauthentic.
>>17001668There is nothing more inauthentic in a suit than there is in a tee and jans. If anything the suit evolved over century and has a rich historicall background, where jeans were used for cow herding and tshirts are nothing more than wearing ones underwear as th only layer. I would argue that a suit, due to that historical evolution, has much more option for heavyweight individual adjustments, be it in cut, fabric, colour or accesoires as well as the combination of all the above. You have half a millenium of inspiration and multiple layers on which to project your inner world. A suit doesn't equal buying a slim fit black off the rack one like million other people or getting prescribed a specific one without room for personal taste from your employer. Check out how people working for the BigFour dress. Despite their suits their fits have much more character tha your random no-suit employe going to work in the same H&M jeans and hoodie over a random band shirt made in Taiwan or Bangladesh.
>>17001441>2012 >people still complaining about “reddit spacing”
>>17002107>>17002103imagine thinking it's the specific act of reddit spacing and not the fact that it shows you're a faggot from reddit attempting to join these threads when you don't know what you're talking about
>>17002284>imagine thinking it's the specific act of reddit spacing and not the fact that it shows you're a faggot from reddit attempting to join these threads when you don't know what you're talking about
>>17001586To call suits industrialist uniforms is intellectually dishonest. Suiting throughout the 20th century has more in common with historical Western dress than what is worn today. The death of suiting coincided with a shift towards that which had only recently been made possible by globalist trade and manufacturing practices which were most strongly entrenched during Modernity.Acting in bad faith is calling the suit the industrialist uniform when the blue jeans were born of needs specifically in tune with the development of the America West. The suit is a descendant of earlier eras than industrialism. The necktie is a scarf after all.
>>17001261I think people forget that being clean was a privilege. I do agree that those suits look good, but this clothing has a lot of purpose to it. Chemise\shirt keeps sweat from jacket, jackets are probably adjusted to suit them perfectly, and shoe making was much better because things were made to last.Then compare it to OP's picture. They wear those suits because its considered "decent". It looks better than t-shirt + sweatpants, sure, but its just vanity. Most suits nowadays are poorly fitted either way, unless you're the biggest hipster in your city, i guess.
The only people I see wearing suits are kids going to prom, government workers, and europeans
I don't have a wagie corporate job, I am largely involved in academic research but otherwise I am involved in bioinformatics at a startup. I regularly deploy my suit in circumstances of demonstrating my respect for others - e.g. meeting with new clients/professionals, interviewing, delivering a presentation, attending a function which isn't explicitly casual, etc. If you don't wear a suit for scenarios like those which I have laid out, you are probably not white - if you happen to be ethnically white, you certainly don't behave as such. Sure, the suit is largely viewed as being a signifier of status but it is also a signifier of respect. It takes little effort to be presentable, it is the least you could do.
>>16998915A suit is like corporate warrior gear
>>16998915cuz they are. suits are a costume of adulthood.
>>17002667you cant wear a suit like that unless you make 250k + and have 5m net>>17002382in science anyone wearing a suit is kek/10, usually a young naive guy/woman with low scientific poweror a wealthy benefactor/donor who has no science degrees but donates large amounts. Only the second is supposed to be wearing a suit. maybe also if you work on nukes/AI and have a suit under a lab coat and are directing 100 + phd holding men. No one else in science/academia is supposed to be wearing a suitEven in academic finance... fucking kek unless you came from the board room 5 minutes before. >presentation>suitIf your presentation is in tech/science and you're wearing a suit you likely have autism and are probably a virgin. the other giga cringe are sports people/entertainers/non technical/non business/non professionals wearing suits on any occasion
Thinking you have to have a reason to wear a suit, LMAO fuck off you pussy.
>>17002831>you have to conform to the standards set forth by actual autists in the science field who rarely bathe, let alone put forth the effort to wear a suit on occasionYou are a cuck who cannot and will not make decisions on your own volition. I appreciate that what I am saying in completely novel to you, but some people amongst us can make decisions on our own and don't poll public opinion for every single decision we make.>If your presentation is in tech/science and you're wearing a suit you likely have autism and are probably a virgin. >I am le epic t-shirt and jeans style Zuckerberg - very epic and very casual teeheePlease return to reddit and stop embarrassing yourself
>you cant wear a suit like that unless you make 250k + and have 5m net
>>17002889>>17002903t. peasants/lowclass/ working class scum wearing suits to feel superior to their bretherenYou will never be accepted into higher society kek. Your place was fixed at birth.
>>17002918I make over $250k a year bud
>>16998915You sound like a loser. Even if it’s not for businesswear some people like the refined style. Which is what you should be doing as you grow older. Not listen to insecure morons who don’t know how to dress themselves and use the jeans and a t shirt as their excuse for basic comfort.
>>17001261What does any of that have to do with having nostalgia? Especially with the given example. That was there version of acceptable attire back in the day, but still rings true today. They might have been seen as poor, but they strives to at least resemble dignity and elegance on a budget. Today’s trends are hot garbage and show no actual generational growth.
>>17002918>t. peasants/lowclass/ working class scum wearing suits to feel superior to their bretherenSuits are literally the traditional outfit of the european working class, i don't wear them to feel superior to anyone else, i do it to carry on tradition and because i enjoy wearing them.Your words make you sound like an immature fuck too, society would collapse without the working class.
>>17000946What? You can wear whatever you want retard. You are not bound by any man made rule book. You pick what you desire and go through the ups and downs of refinement till your comfortable experimenting. This is why a majority of you losers don’t try new things to cause mental and physical epiphanies.
>>17002968This, imagine not wearing something because someone else laid down a imaginary rule that you cannot do it, it just reeks of lack of confidence and insecurity. Literally letting someone else live in your own mind and dictate what you do, sad.
>>17002918Kek, do you understand that you are the crab in the bucket? I suspect that you also encourage people not to workout because they think they're "superior to their brethren" for doing-so. Anon, I am better than you - likely in every conceivable way. I will continue behaving as such with my attire and exercise routine. Enjoy following your NPC script of desperation trying to fit-in and fly under the radar.
>>17001350>>17002103>>17002297Your both cringe. I’ve seen this exact comment chain shitting up so many threads.
>>17000960no one in these jobs is wearing suits nowadaysstop believing shitty hollywood movies
>>16998915autists love suits because they dont know how to dress
>>16999913>It's a race to the bottom with these people.Based wisdom teller.
>>16999913Why is this the case? If you're in decent shape and wear well fitted "modern" clothes, I'm not going to go out of my way to spite you, but it seems like people do that with suit wearing.
>>17001586The industrialist uniform of the 21st century is a pop culture branded plastic shirt.
>>17002831>you cant wear a suit like that unless you make 250k + and have 5m net>a young naive guy/woman with low scientific power>No one else in science/academia is supposed to be wearing a suitMight be the most autistic post I've seen today.
>>16999686You mean expresso?
>>17001261Modern climate control is destroying the planet.
>>17004176Can confirm, am an autist who loves dressing in slacks and Oxfords. Makes me look taller, too.
>>17002918>he thinks others are the ones this ass blasted about socio-economic occupation / class separation while he's the only one that thinks about them not only rent free, but also allowing them to control his every thought and moveCrab or insecure rich guy terrified of the concept of free will
>>16999938that tasteful yellow tone
>>16999951Imagine making an impassioned speech in preparation for sacrificing your life for the emperor, and getting laughed at. Imagine what was going through his head when he sudoku'd
>>17002966>Suits are literally the traditional outfit of the european working class...for about a century out of three millenia
>>17004431I'll express sow your ass if you don't shut your filthy mouth
>>17003525People complaining about a certain "writing style" is the only cringe thing here
>>16999667>>16999726>>16999766>>17000958>>17004431jfc you people are not the brightesthe was replying to someone who doesnt know that espresso isnt served in normal sized coffee cups>are they giantslol that tiny spoon and saucer should have given it away pimp
>>16999938How is this called?
>>17005828thank you anon, it seems there isn't only braindead fucking retards on this board after all.
>>16999110only landchad could pull it off
>>16999951also he taken dicks in his ass
just got this and another charcoal 1818 suit from BBsuper pumped bros. taking it to a tailor pronto
>>17007714none of these pictures do the luster of the suits fabric justice. they are incredibly rich and just fuarking glow brahs
Allen edmonds, crockett&jones, or Tods? None of the above?
>>17000946This and stop kidding yourself otherwise. It's not the norm to be wearing suits on the daily even in offices. Times just have changed and it's cringe to meme yourself into wearing one daily for no reason.
>>17007714This is a very nice choice. You'll be very happy. The 1818 suits are great for the money.
>>17001341I prefer dressing like a 35-year-old sleazebag who just woke up an hour ago
>>17008015I wear a suit and tie because I feel like it. Why does this make normalfags seethe?
>>16998915that's because they are
>>17008453Suit wearers will be vindicated when we reach a cultural plateau and alphoomers decide to truly return to tradition and reject their zoomer parents.
>>17008185ty anon :)
>>17008015You must be american
Why the hell would I wear a suit instead of sweats? I don't work in an office.
>>17010992Negroid hands typed this.
>some anons are wearing suits while shitposting
>>17011335>some anons are not wearing suits while shitposting
>>17000946My business worth 200k, which is little you may say, but I feel like the super magnate and I like it. I sometimes overdress just to point out, I'm the boss (at least in my small world). Some would say I'm short minded, but the truth is, it's hard to create a business from cero and it makes me feel like big cock popa
>>17011952good morning sir
>get white collar job>wear suits every day>other coworkers start wearing suits as a result>cultivate environment of enjoyment and encouragement>whole team is elevated and has a newfound fraternal bond
>>17013432what environment? are people all making low-mid six figs minimum?
>>16998915the only people i see wearing suits in my city are lawyers, and thats if theyre going to court and sometimes executives when having a serious meeting or pitch but any other time u like youre playing dressup especially when its 78 and sunny outside
>>17013450hospital managers/medical teamscan get entire floors of mid six figure guysalso investment banks
>>17013450Any profession that is regarded as serious or official. Mid five figures in lower cost of living areas can support decent suiting.You can buy three half-canvassed 100% wool suits in your classic charcoal, navy and black from a reputable suit maker or an MTM for $1500. Then you buy half a dozen no-iron shirts on special from somebody like CT for $250 or less. Finally you grab some Allen Edmonds on sale and some thrift store ties and you're set up at around $2k all in and equipped to wear suits five days a week.You can get set up quite cheaply nowadays.
>>17014820what style and color of shoes would you get from Allen Edmonds?
>>17014832Charles Tyrwhitt. They're decent quality shirts, nothing amazing but they offer a lot of variety and good discounts when you buy multiple shirts. Their big attraction is their introductory deal where you get 3 shirts for $99. They run a lot of sales too.>>17014834Brown oxfords are pretty universal. Allen Edmonds runs big sales as well so wait for those.
>>16998915Wore a green suit for St Pattys as thought it'd be fun and people kept asking me why I was wearing a suit or if I'd been at work or a funeral or something