>make a premium line of pants to compete with high quality denim brands>still use the same shit dye and cotton as your mass produced pants >after a few washes they look like predistressed american eagle trash Jean'sWhy bother?
Don't they use denim from Jap mills? Surely they would use different cotton/dye.>Why bother?Because you like the specific cut of that pair of jeans?
Holy fuck you're stupid. The whole point of indigo dye is that it's not colorfast and that it fades, and if it's preium denim it's likely actual indigo dye and not synthetic junk.
>>16546819It looks like trash after just a few months
>>16546826Subjective. If you want color fast denim buy colorfast denim.
>>16546829All the good denim brands have shit fits that make you look like a carrot I just want high quality 501 raws
>>16546837get the Sugar Cane 501s
>>16546837You can get vintage 501 reproductions from somewhere like Sugar Cane
Are there any affordable quality jeans made in North America or Europe?
>>16546842Naked and Famous is made in Canada and is on sale rn, ends todayhttps://tateandyoko.com/collections/naked-and-famous/weird-guy?sort_by=price-ascending
>>16546838>>16546841As far as I know sugar cane uses actual indigo dye for their denim, which is not colorfast. Do they make colorfast version?
>>16546844Again this is not what he's looking for as the whole point of N&F is for it to fade. Nearly all high end denim isn't colorfast.
>>16546848That might not have been the same anon. And N and F has colorfast and "forever blue" washes.
>>16546848>>16546850here, stock is real low since it was on sale thoughhttps://tateandyoko.com/collections/naked-and-famous/products/naked-famous-denim-easy-guy-forever-blue-stretch-selvedge
>>16546852Cool thanks. I'll get a pair when I'm not fat. Happy that I live in Montreal and can always get NF below retail from Jeans Jeans Jeans.
>>16546837>>16546838Didn't know these existed, thanks frens
Just don't wash em duh
>>16546813I love my pair of LVC 1955 501's. After one year they are not fading as fast as I want them to so idk what you're talking about
>bought Super Guy - True Grit SelvedgeAm I getting ripped off by paying $100 for jeans?
>>16546826This looks great you just have bad taste
color is always gonna fade godamn my levis that i got in 8th grade and still wear today are still in one fucjing piece
How hard is it to boil water, add fabric dye, add salt, soak for 24 hours, hang dry, cold wash with an additional color binding agent. Fucking consumers have zero idea how to do anything else but consoom and resell and repeat
>>16547198Enjoy your jeans shrinking to a kids size
>>16547198Good thing im not fucking fat and can enjoy the natural process of 30 waist and squat lower body, 31 pants, wash, sun fade, shrink to 29, wear, stretch and distress, repeat
>>16546813>make a premium line of reproduction pants to compete with high quality denim brands>outsource it after it becomes popular >stop making most of it>focus on shirts and bandanas instead of jeans>make most of the jeans prewashed Why
>>16547217I feel like I'm having a stroke when trying to read this post.
>>16546837501 is p much the most common cut the Japs make. They're not all the same, rather reproductions of various iterations of the 501 as it's changed over the year. If you see a year in the name of the jeans or marketing that's what it means. The ones the other anon recommended you are a good choice where they're quality but also at a pretty introductory price point. I like sugar canes. There's endless options.
>>16547198That's not how they do it, but artificially dyed pre shrunk jeans (they do it with hot rollers not soaking) are plentiful you can get them at wal mart or uniqlo for $10. Why would you want that? Jeans aren't dress pants.
>>16546845If you want artificial dyed denim that won't fade in a straight leg cut just buy the cheaper uniqlo's bro.
>>16547994>>16547996There's plenty of artificially dyed denim that will also fade, if you want it not to fade just going with artificial dye isn't enough, it has to be specified colorfast. Most of those artificial dyes try to mimic indigo dye.
>>16548002I'm p sure the non-mij Uniqlo's are colorfast. Mine have zero fading after ~3 years of framing and roofing in them, when I usually have god fades in 6 months.
>>16547987this is big boss
>>16546826The problem is???
>>16546813>paying premium price for a pair of fucking work trousersngmi son
>>16546813I just buy Levi's shrink-to-fit, $50.Anyone know any other brands for NON-selvedge raws?
>>16546826These look like prime sexcore pants.
>>16546826You're not supposed to put your raw denim in the washing machine
>>16546813>after a few washes they ...You wash jeans???
>>16546813Lmao at denim fags. You need to take the chino-pill>Lightweight, wearable in summer>Way more colours then Navy and Black.>Don't fade to light blue and look like shit.>Military heritage>Don't have to worry so much about shrinkage etc.>Doesn't cost an arm and leg from Japanese scammersTake the chino-pill
>>16550480>hey guys, stop liking what I don't like!!sure thing buddy
>>16550491You dress like a basedboy faggot guaranteed
>>16546813>high quality denim>Levi's>2021oh /fa/
>>16550543speaking of, are there any actual denims that last?
>>16550543OP is clearly talking about LVC, which actually makes levi's like the used to.
>>16550540You dress like a gandpa with your chinis up to your nips, guaranteed.
>>16550569>OP is clearly talking about a line of clothes made by (((the same brand)))Yes, what was my mistake ?>makes them like how they used toApparently not.Almost like it's the same brand
>>16550573>Apparently not.And how is this apparent? Because the jeans faded? Like they always have? Retard.
>>16546813>my work pants look like work pants
>>16550600They fade drastically and are all frayed out after a year
>>16550644>They fade drasticallyas they always have. >all frayed out after a yearYou're full of shit, I have fucking 7 year old levis that start to look like that. Do you fucking live in a house with every square inch covered in 80 grit sandpaper?
>>16550656That guy >>16550644 wasn't me >>16550573you seem really defensive of a brand that sold out a while back and has lowered it's qualitydo you own stock or something? there is better denim now, not this 'we have to make a separate line that harkens back to when it was better quality'- why not just improve the standard quality
>>16550673I'm not defensive of it you lol, I just pointed out your stupidity and now you write out a paragraph of cope because of it. Yes there are tons of good brands of denim, yes levi's sold out but LVC makes good quality shit, unlike regular levi's. And you know why they don't just improve the standard quality, money.
>>16550716"lol" the tell tale sign of a distrubed mind, or a girl texting. Three sentences does not constitute a paragraph- you typed out the same amount just in one line>Levy sold out>but their other sub-brand? Aces manIt's like getting raw food at a restaurant and paying the chef extra in the alley to cook it right. Stop supporting shitty brands
>>16546826lmao this idiot machine washed them, retarded zoomer
>>16550543I don't think you read that properly. Levi's is trying to compete with high-quality denim using shitty cotton.
>>16546813>Imported>$260The fuck? They couldn't find a US manufacturer?
>>16546842Dearborn Denim is a good mid tier jean option made in the US.Naked and Famous is a bit better quality wise.
I wanted to buy some jeans in the 100-150€ range and was recommended ASKET before, are there any other brands I should look at?Naked and Famous seems to be getting name-dropped a lot and they are in that range too, any other options?
>>16550540I'm too old to even know what that is. I wear boots and jeans and shirts, what do zoomers call that?
>>16549354Wrangler has a colorway they call "rigid indigo" that apparently is raw.
>>16546813So to all you dweebs in here bitching, whats the best place to get high quality denim then?
>>16546826These pants look fantastic and were washed like 3 times in 3 years
>>16552075imagine the smell
>>16551042They could but it's cheaper for them to make them in Turkey
>>16552082Even someone else's heavily worn jeans don't tend to smell bad. You're not supposed to shit yourself in them, you know.And your legs don't sweat outside of the crotch area which is protected by the udnerwear.
>>16550724>''lol" the tell tale sign of a distrubed mindAnon you're autistic
>>16550480This, chinos are the answer. Never been a denim fan and never will be
>>16552276>doesn't actually address the main part of the counter>fixates on a small asideAnon you're projecting
>>16552969Lol I'm not who he was replying to retard, I'm just pointing out that he's autistic.
Barumpa denim is best
>giving your money to american companiesThey will give you the lowest quality they can get away with for the highest prices lmao. Their employees are also paid slave wages.
https://www.denimsandjeans.com/denim-companies-directory>cone mills shut down in 2017
>>16546813just wear edwins they're cheap and nobody thinks they're anything special
>>16546813Denim made with cotton picked by genuine slaves is the best for making durable, rugged pants!That is a well known and provable fact!The blackest slaves can usually sniff out and pick the best cotton to make their owner very proud!
>>16556887Just found out they sell in Europe, how are those?