Getting myself a tattoo in the near future, already have a specific place I want to use that I know has made some pretty impressive stuff in the past, and I want a near-copy of something they have given to someone else before. But I have never had a tattoo before, so I'd like some advice from anyone more experienced on this topic. 1. As someone very underweight, are there any places that shouldn't be used? My initial idea was either on the front or back of my shoulder, so it is generally covered when I'm regularly dressed. I have some muscle on my biceps, so that might also be an option if the general lack of fat in that area could be a problem. 2. Is there something I should keep in mind if I want text and a bit of colour to it? How much does it affect the time it takes, and how well do they age? The one colour tattoo I've seen aged pretty poorly over just about 10 years3. How much time would a smallish tattoo like the picture attached generally take to get? Does that also depend on the placement? And how much more would it take if it was in colours?
>>16362640Tattoo is a marker for low self-esteem.
>>16362641Your opinion has been noted. I'm not doing this for anyone other than myself, so I'm not going to be talked out of it by someone else, either.
>As someone very underweightWhy don't you get in shape first and develop your canvas?
>>16362648I'm in reasonably good physical shape, but my weight issue is a medical one. I'm 30 and have struggled with this for over a decade, and doubt I will change my body shape much for the reminder of my life at this point.
>>16362659What issue? Can you send some my way?
>>16362663Colitis coupled with some recurring metabolism issues. I can say with certainty that you definitely prefer to stay healthy, it is a massive chore it eat all the time only to avoid losing weight, and I practically have to stay in good physical shape if I don't want to have a slew of other health issues on top.
>>16362640please lord don't get a dumb tatoo. you'll look like an iditot at 40 years old.
>>16362695>you'll look like an iditot at 40 years old>iditot I’ll look like an iditot at 40 regardless
>>16362673Do you actually count your calories?
>>16362647>opinionThat is a fact, not an opinion. You can google it.
>>16362695I already look like an idiot. >>16362705Yes. I have a digital log book counting every calorie for 6 years going now. Doctors demands. Not sure what this has to do with my questions. >>16362733Okay, still not sure why I should care.
>>16362640>i want a copy of something they have doneDONT do this. They probably wont even do it for you. And if they do then they have probably copied it from someone else. You pay for the time it takes not the actual ink etc.You are permanently scarring yourself. Find a artist you like and get something original.Theres tons of tattoo artists who do insane work.. Dont fall for the meme and copy someone else. Find a good artist. Tell them your idea's. They will draw something up for you.
>>16362772>DONT do this.>They probably wont even do it for youI don't know if it's an original one, but it is a memoir to someone I lost, and I have confirmed the artist know what tattoo I'm talking about, and that they would be happy to give me a near-copy of it. It was originally on someones chest, and I can't get it there. Or won't, rather. And they aren't working off templates, so it won't be the exact same, and I was considering getting it a bit more colourful it that doesn't put the quality at risk. And I do really like their work. This particular artist have done some really amazing stuff on my brother, and I trust him to deliver a well made one. I'm not really concerned with the price. I'm just wondering how long I should expect to be worked on. I've heard some crazy long sessions, and multiple of them, and I'm more concerned about my ability to have someone work on me for that long.
>>16362640Time doesn't. Atter thwy will charge you a shop minimum. Small pieces generally look like shit, colour outaide of traditional/neo-traditional generally looks like shit. Any place that is boney is gonna hurt, don't be a pussy though.
>>16362640>Advice on first Tattoo?Don't.>>16362753>still not sure why I should careNTA, but you should care because it's not too late to avoid falling into the "ink = identity" trap. Tats are like a vapid pride stamp. But hey, if you want to lock your social circle in as dumb cunts, and nothing but dumb cunts, for the rest of your life... it *is* your skin.>>16362788>it is a memoir to someone I lostI don't think they'll care either way, kek. In all seriousness, way to make someone else's passing all about you. Nice one. Cunt. Don't do something meaningful, like donate to a cause they cared about, dedicate a memorial, or create a piece of art... just get yourself mutilated by some douchebag.
>>16362788If its specifically a memoir to someone you lost why the fuck would you want a copy that's from someone else. If hes a good tattoo artist then he could alter it to fit you. And to the person you lost.>bruh imma get a guy playing guitar to remember my bruddah who never picked a guitar up in his lifeDo you realise how retarded it sounds? If hes good he could literally draw you something original up that you actually would want on your body. You want a memory of someone who is gone but instead you get a tattoo of a random..??
>>16362808>NTAJesus christ go back
>>16362808>it's not too late to avoid falling into the "ink = identity" trapEvidently not what this is about. It's a reminder. And I donated to a suicide fund after his death, but I don't see how that's relevant?>>16362813>why the fuck would you want a copy that's from someone elseI am not sure what you are trying to say here. It's a near-copy of a tattoo my brother had, and it's a symbol, not a picture of anyone. And it's one he really liked.But sure, I can consider asking if the artist has a good idea for a design that would be fitting. He knew the guy that passed away at least a little bit, so he might have some ideas. But Christ are you guys are really hostile towards this. I'm really not sure why You are this angry over me wanting a tattoo.
>>16362640Here is my #1 advice for getting a tattoo: Don't. Just don't.It doesn't matter if it costs 50 or 5000 bucks, you will look like a buffoon. But if you must get one, you better ask a tattoo artist for advice.
Fuck all the retards in this post, I don’t have any tattoos and can’t give you any advice but if you want to get a tattoo for your brother go ahead. I know you’re not getting it for fashion but tattoos can look fucking great as long as you’re already good looking and fit. I think of it like smoking, yeah probably not a good idea but it doesn’t mean it can’t look great in certain circumstances.
>>16362852Tbh get something that is more meaningful than just getting something that was probably taken off the first 10 results from google, you will be more glad longterm. There's alot of good artists who you can give a idea to and can give you something nice. This is some genuine advice that you never get on here usually
>>16362788>work on me for that longPeople over exaggerate how painful it is, it just feels like a constant sunburn, you can easily sit for a long time
>>16362640I’ll actually answer your questions as someone with sleeves. Placement shouldn’t matter that much. Even bone skinny people can get tattoos wherever, it’s just that the most painful tattoos are where it’s skin on bone like collar bones, ribs, etc. it won’t make any other difference. Back of shoulder or chest is fine. If you’re unsure, the artist will be able to give you advice on placement. Color adds a bit of time and text takes quite a long time depending on the font and how much there is. Color tattoos need more frequent touch ups than grayscale. I’d only recommend color if it’s a traditional style tattoo that uses bold colors and thick outlines (ages better) or you’re pale. Pic related tattoo I’d expect to take somewhere between 3-4 hours. Colors might add on an extra hour. Don’t worry about the time too much. Both you and the artist will take breaks throughout.
keeping your humanity and not getting it.
>>16362640>I want a near-copy of something they have given to someone else before.wack
>>16362772This is such a retarded take. Back in the day if you went into a tattoo parlour, you picked something from the flash on the wall, non of this special snowflake bullshit about being original
>>16363124You do realise artists nowdays remove flash after its done on someone.. right???
>>16363132>nowdaysExactly my point, the idea that a tattoo should be completely unique to you is an unnecessary invention of the past 20 years. Who cares if someone else has the same design? Its about how it looks
>>16362852>And I donated to a suicide>suicideWait... this pussy fucking an hero'd, and you want to honor him? Lemme guess, he "struggled with addiction" amirite? Good riddance, move on with your life. Don't romanticize or validate the selfish decision he made, or the shit it put you and your family through. Fuck him. Simple as. I'm glad he's dead.>it's a symbol, not a picture of anyone. And it's one he really likedIs it a rope?>I'm really not sure why You are this angry over me wanting a tattoo"Angry" is a very strong word. But it boils down to 1. Tats are normie shit, like, painful, NPC levels of normie shit, and this is 4chan. 2. Tats generally look like shit, and this is /fa/. Double wammy.
>>16363316take a load of this special snowflake
>>16363316Calm down love
>>16362640>and I want a near-copy of something they have given to someone else beforeIf you're going to an artist asking for a copy of work they have done themselves then it shouldn't be an issue if you ask and explain why. If you're asking for them to copy some other artists work, they don't like that and will refuse it>1. As someone very underweight, are there any places that shouldn't be used?As someone else said, your weight doesn't matter and its really about skin to bone. But even that differs from person to person. In general the placement in your OP pic is where most people get their first tattoo. I got my 2nd tattoo on my collar bone and it honestly barely hurt. It differs for different people. >2. Is there something I should keep in mind if I want text and a bit of colour to it?I only have blackwork so don't know much about colour, but if you want text, check their Instagram and make sure they can actually do text. Sure artists work from stencils, but they can still fuck up text>3. How much time would a smallish tattoo like the picture attached generally take to get?My first tattoo was that size and general placement. Took about an hour and a half but depends on the design of course.
>>16362753Not trying to downplay your condition, m8. The reality is just that most people are fucking dumb and would rather do anything than count their calories which is where people can really make gains or losses.
>>16362640Handpokes are the way to go and are pretty effay if you do it rightPic related is a cigarette i did on my gross ass foot a couple days ago, the shitty look of it adds to the authenticity and isnt as achievable with a gun. Its also just generally based to tattoo yourself
>>16362640>Advice on first Tattoo?>1. As someone very underweightStart lifting and go to a proper lean weight first of all.>3. How much time would a smallish tattoo like the picture attached generally take to get?At least 50€/$, I would expect 120 desu.Dear op, don't waste your money on that. Save the money for something better: Good clothes, a trip, a car, laser surgery or simply to save money for the time when things go bad, maybe you can help your family in the future with it.
>>16363124Yeah and now everyone makes fun of the boomers with their horrible tattoos. Congrats, anon.
>>16362819it means "not that anon" you fucking retard
>>16362641Go to bed grandpa
>>16364075this isn't effay because you have hairy feet you gross cunt
>>16366068It's 2021 so in all likelihood your grandpa experienced the peak of tattoos being cool.You live well after that where they are played out.When every dumb teenage bimbo has tattoos all over her they are not cool anymore.Think about it: you would never accept that a kind of jacket is really cool years after every normie got one.You guys just want to maintain a bubble because you can't take tattoos off like you can a jacket.
>>16366411Shut up grandpa
>>16366423I bet your grandpa has at least one full sleeve.
>>16366411muh normies muh npc me different me special me no like thing because other people like thing you're a weak little man
>>16366411>you would never accept that a kind of jacket is really cool years after every normie got one.fuck you yeah i would
>>16366493I might be giving you too much credit saying you have a point but I guess your point is you want tattoos so you fit in?I think I can respect that provided you don't try to imagine yourself as being cool for having them.
>>16366536what normies think and when has very little bearing on what i think would look good on me
>>16366551If you get the thing everyone is wearing then you are participating in the trend.I don't buy that you are completely apart from trends but coincidentally participated in it.
>>16362640Here's a legit advice, set up a professional photo shooting and get yourself some temporary tatts. Once you're done, make a meta looking IG/Tinder profile. Young sluts will wanna fuck you because of your mysterious badboy vibes and you'll have the best SEX SUMMER of your life. They won't even notice that the tatts are not there anymore because of their low IQ. If they ask anyway, just tell them that you got them lasered off for personnal reason, which will give you extra mystery points. Even if they're not convinced, they won't refuse you sex if they're already half naked.That's it anon, good luck, and keep working out.
>>16366411You're right, we're well past the "tattoos are cool" era. Tattoos are normalised. You get them because they look good, not because they look cool. It's like saying my grandpa experienced the peak of clothes being cool. How out of touch are you anon.
>>16366533me smart special boi me make decissions based on what other people dome too special to do thing other people too
>>16363316lmao angry is the perfect word because normie shit seems to cause you actual pain. you sound so angry about someone getting a tattoo i wonder how bad shit is for you in real life
>>16366411>Think about it: you would never accept that a kind of jacket is really cool years after every normie got one.this is the most retarded analogy. sounds like you can't make stylistic distinctions between things bud why are you even here
>>16362772I understand what you meant, by unique you mean a custom art made by the tattoo artist.But by the amount of people getting tattoos, getting something that is truly original is almost impossible. Some retard probably already made a tattoo very similar to the one you're thinking.
>>16368589What about a cool scorpion in flames tattoo on my arm?
>>16362640>and I want a near-copy of something they have given to someone else beforeThat should be a signal that tells you not to do it.
>>16368589Thats the equivalent of saying"anyone who designed a car after the first guy is unoriginal", which is a pretty warped way of thinking desuYou are only going to get something based of what you tell the artistSo its on you to give him a original idea"bruh i want a skull" you will just get a generic skull in his style, this is exactly why any decent tattoo artist wont ever copy someone's work you found by principleAlso most as you said artists who can give you something "original", you are going to be waiting atleast 2-3 years for a appointment and a massively inflated price because of their popularity so they have very long waitlists and would probably require you to fly to another countryTheres a difference between traveling to someone good and making the extra effort, giving ideas for them to draw up and alter untill you like, and going to the first shop you find on insta thats 1 hour away with something stolen off the internet
Also some cunt no matter how "original" your tattoo isSome incel online will take it and copy it exactly anyway so its a lose lose
>>16362753>still not sure why I should careSocial signalling helps set your place in society. Permanent body mods send a stronger signal than daily clothing choices. It's worth considering how much you'll be hamstringing your future endeavors.
>>16362640Do you know?The world's most dangerous cartel bosses, such as El mayo, Escobar, and El Chapo, did not have any tattoos.If you enter a restaurant and public bath with a tattoo in Japan, you will be denied access. Because tattoos are the symbol of slaves and yakuza.Scientists with the highest IQ in the world who have won the Nobel Prize and Fields Prize do not get tattoos.Tattoos are engraved by losers who live rubbish lives like niggas, Hispanics, and poor gangs.
>>16370013>t. has never been to JapanThey dont care about tattoos in gaijin you retard. You would never be denied entry to a resteraunt lmao. Public baths yes but private onsen are more kino anyway. Its not like muh anime you fucking nerd.What is it about tattoo threads that brings out all the seething incels? I've got to wonder what backwater city in the 1960s you're all from if you think only gang members have tattoos lol.Reminder that caring what other people do to their bodies is about the least masculine thing you can do.
>>16371625>I've got to wonder what backwater city in the 1960s you're all from if you think only gang members have tattoos lol.In backwater cities tattoos mark you as low class and probably a substance abuser. Exceptions are for police, military, and mechanics, but people still assume you're probably at least an alcoholic.
>>16362641>>16362695>>16362733>>16362763>>16362808>>16362866>>16362980>>16363316>>16365421>>16366411>>16369965>>16370013>>16371592Keep seething, retarded cultist samefag.
>>16370013youre going to sit here and tell me otzi the iceman was some low life nobody
pure degeneracy according to poster >>16370013 right here folks
>>16362640don't get a tattoo is the best advise. only libtard losers get tattoos in the current year meme
>>16362641based. its for people wirh nothing to take about so they can talk about their self inflicted ink scars
>>16362695based again. why look like you have a skin diease
>>16373566>retardedno usorry about your poor life choices, better luck next time
>>16373576I'm sure Ötzi was a good boy who dindu nuffin and was executed for no reason at all.
>>16362980>keeping your humanity and not getting it.based
>>16373608burn. he tried the NPC buzzword response and now looks like a fool.
>>16371625you mean faggos, right? sodomy isn't sex, therefore faggos are the real incels
>>16364075this may sound like hyperbole, but everything about this photo is fucking repulsive
>>16364075Not that someone who half-assedly stick-and-pokes a cig on their foot is likely to care, but you should fix your bunion before you get too old. It could be indicative of ankle pronation or other postural issues which could cause joint injury and pain which will only accelerate as you age.
>>16370013To what type of tryhard faggots cartel bosses are an inspiration?Scientists who first of all are 60+ y/o are likely not to have any tattoo, thanks for figuring this out.And this honsen thing is bullshit, I've been in one without any problem. Do you think a John McSmith white guy with a Carpe Diem tattoo will be mistaken for a yakuza?How could you write this many sentences and prove you retardation in each of them?
not having tatoos, not smoking, not taking drugs and liftings weights are counter culture now
>>16364075Why did you shave half your foot and not the toes and why did I look at this.
>>16373803>this thing is bullshitholy fucking absolute lol
>>16362640Anti-tattoo fanatics on this website are fucking aids. Ignore them because they are literally irrelevant, as are you and me. People who cope for their personality with tatts are still a spec more interesting then the fucking losers who harp on them. Not having tatts doesn't make you morally superiors lmao, bitching about it just makes you look like a prude. >1.Inside of the forearm is always nice. Back of shoulder, closer to the neck is a good spot imo>2.Just avoid cursive script or anything too stylized as it just looks ghetto/trashy. I'm not a fan of colour, especially on text but that's just me. Time depends on the artist but at the shortest, maybe an hour? Everything that is done finely ages like shit, unless you commit to retouching it every couple of years.>3.1-2 hours I guess.
>>16375239His thread subject is, "Advice on first Tattoo?" He's literally asking Anons for advice, some of which is advice against tattoos. Having an opinion contrary to your own low-brow cope, and expressing it when explicitly asked, is hardly fanaticism.
Be a sound cloud artist and get a rose on your hand and some other miscellaneous stuff
>>16375666you smell lower middle class
>>16375666Trips of truth have spoken.
>>16376563says the guy for tattoos.
>>16376579Yes, exactly. You smell lower middle class because you still hold onto the idea that tattoos are lower class, and that scares you -- but you don't realise that we've moved on from that and now tattoos are normalised among the real middle class.
>>16376582Tattoos are like dyed hair. Everybody and their mom has them it if they're insecure
>>16376587Okay. That's a different argument from "tattoos are lowbrow". I'm not interested in arguing about the insecurity of people with dyed hair.
>>16376582>>16376600I said that your cope was low-brow, not that all tattoos are inherently low-brow.
>>16362640Here's something nobody talks about... Tattoos MAY course severe burning if you are put into an MRI. This is thought to be caused by metals put into the ink. Even if the tattoo artist tells you that the ink doesn't include metals you can't really trust him because in many cases, the ink contains substances not in the ingredient list.
>>16364075don't mind the haters anon, that tat is extremely based
>>16376600Neither am I, what I'm saying is that getting a tattoo, and another, and another won't rid you of your insecurities. Better work on yourself first than getting a permanent reminder of how awful you feel about yourself
Do someplace that isn't too crazy like anywhere above the neck or near your groin. Arm or legs tattoos are pretty standard and you can do in your chest if not too big, that is the most safe bet.Get a drawing that is more regular and reflect something that you could see enjoying in 10 or 20 years instead of your latest favorite game or movie. Consoomer tattos are the worst because it's the most vapid thing and your taste will change over the years.
>>16362640Wait until you're 25 and I promise you will not want a tattoo then
>>16370013>I'm not a cartel boss>I'm not japanese>I'm not a Nobel Prize winnerI'm in the clear, time to get tatted up!
>>16362640I think tattoos are retarded, nothing in life is meaningful enough to be engraved on my skin, the only pass I give is for tribal tattoos and I'm not talking about the ones that hipsters get that symbolize whatever bullshit they makeup, I'm talking about actual traditional tattoos worn by members of an actual tribe most likely in the jungles of Africa.
>>16377575I want to get a tattoo because they look fucking good, anon.
>I want a near-copy of something they have given to someone else beforeDude, don't do that. It's basic tattoo etiquette to not copycat other people's design choices. Think for yourself, come up with your own ideas. If you're really committed to imitating another person, go for it, but anybody who finds out that you got it because somebody else got it is going to think less of you.>underweight, any places that shouldn't be usedUnderweight is good for tattoos if you plan on being underweight forever, but just be mindful that any weight gain you get that naturally stretches skin is going to stretch your tattoo. Specifically stomach, thighs, biceps, pecs/titties. Basically wherever the bone is close to the skin and doesn't get fat or saggy with age will keep its shape for longer. Having said that, there is such a thing as high value canvas. These are areas that are highly visible or large. Most people don't think much about getting a tattoo on their arse or feet, because they rarely see it. A tattoo on your hands or face has gotta be well thought out, because it's always visible. I personally believe the entirety of the arms, the chest, and back are high value canvas for men, and arms, thighs, and shoulders are high value canvas for women.
If you don't plan on getting many tattoos, the forearm is a good place to get a tattoo that is reasonably easy to cover with long sleeves that is visible and will age well, but most people tend not to get very good tattoos for their first few tattoos because they don't understand how tattoos age or how they take to the skin very well. I preserved my arms until after I'd covered a lot of my chest and torso because I wanted to make damn sure I got good designs on my arms, since they're so visible.>want text and colourColour fades, but not THAT much, especially if you get it redone. Black looks the same forever, white and yellow disappears in less than a year, blue holds the longest, red fades the most in terms of intensity. If you want to get text, make it readable. Don't get graffiti script or metal album font. Anything done too finely will age like shit, no matter how you live your life. "Bold will hold" the simpler the tattoo, the better it's going to look over time, but aged tattoos have their own appeal, like vintage furniture.
>>16377848>most likely in the jungles of AfricaIs that a thing? I have seen tribal scars on Africans but never heard of them having trad tattoos.
>>16379139I've only seen paint and scars. Woke Wikipedia doesn't list anything for sub-Saharan Africa in their long list of ancient and traditional tattooing practices:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_tattooing#Ancient_and_traditional_practices
>>16377848This. Urban tattoos look gross and trashy.