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This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece, which includes digital watches and smart watches because the quartz crisis and we don’t live in 1960 anymore

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV (embed)
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2 (embed)
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE (embed)

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

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I didn't see the other thread in the catalog, sorry fellas. Jannys please delete this thread
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buddy delete it yourself
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quick post cunny before it gets deleted
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>>16190103
My datejust homage just arrived today
Yes, I’m poor
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>>16190103
personally i think it would be funny to have two threads and will continue responding to this one
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>>16191740
It looks really bad
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>>16191740
looks great sleazy core
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Is Steinhart trying to mimic Richard Mille/Hublot now?
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>>16191895
Ok pal

>>16191897
Yeah, i like how it looks so im going to keep it but I plan on buying a more expensive homage by Rotary which would be 36mm as oppose to this 40mm which just seems too big for a “””datejust”””
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Thinking about getting a white dial Sinn 104 as my first automatic watch. Am I falling for a German meme shitter or is it a decent watch?
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>>16191933
Wow, how much is this?
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>>16191933
960 in Eurobux, so that's about $1100 American
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>>16191977
Looks chonky
I like the designs they have, but would probably only buy the 556
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>>16191986
meant to reply to >>16191985
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"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
1000
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Pocket
>> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
Manual
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
Perpetual calendar, minute repeater (Bwahahahaha!)
Although, rumor has it Jaegers with minute repeater are going for under 5k, truth or bs?
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Precious metal case would be nice
> Wrist size or desired watch size
Eh
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>>16191938
>I plan on buying a more expensive homage by Rotary which would be 36mm as oppose to this 40mm which just seems too big for a “””datejust”””

parnis also sells one at 36mm for ~$100, and it has automatic movement inside, either mingzhu or miyota, something to consider.

https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-parnis-36mm.html
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>>16191992
You will not find a pocket watch with all of that for under $20,000 I would bet. The only one I see on Chrono24 is over $300,000.
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>>16192001
Yeah, figured that sounded too good to be true.

What can be had in that area for a grand?
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>>16192008
A regular time only pocket watch, maybe something with central seconds or a chonograph. You should also forget about precious metal because a real gold watch in this price range is worth more in the gold than the watch itself. You have to understand that high complication pocket watches were almost all special order for specific clientele, so they cost a lot at the time and they have held their value up until now.
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>>16191996
>>16191740
Why the fuck would you buy any chinkshit that isn't San Martin? do you enjoy wasting money?
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>>16191996
Thank you, my friend bought a parnis 3 years ago and it was really nice but I don't want to wait for delivery from china so I will probably buy the Rotary here in my country
Maybe I will order the parnis if I will be disappointed enough in the rotary to send it back
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>>16192016
do they make two tone datejusts with jubilee bracelet?
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>>16192016
because the san martin datejusts cost $350-$500.
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>>16191977
does Sinn still use top grade movements? couldn't find info on this
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>>16192019
they do, but datejusts are a garbage design I don't know why you would want that.
>>16192022
because it has a good movement and isn't made from potmetal.
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>>16192023
>Sinn still use top grade movements
they never did kek
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>>16192024
bro if I had ~$400 to spend I wouldn't be buying this chinkshit lol
I was thinking of a seiko but they don't have the cool cyclops date magnifier thingy
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>>16192024
>because it has a good movement and isn't made from potmetal.
it'll do just fine, its like buying a pagani. A miyota 8xxx is whatever
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>>16192027
The cyclops is not cool, you don't want it.
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>>16192026
Chrono grade
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>>16192027
The do on a few models in that price rang. Alpinists and most Turtle models have a cyclops. There are also a few other iirc.
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>>16192031
Idk, I like the way it looks
Like a drop of water on the glass

>>16192035
You're right but not the datejust homage of theirs
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>>16192027
maybe buy less total dogshit and you could afford one decent piece
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>>16191992
>Although, rumor has it Jaegers with minute repeater are going for under 5k, truth or bs?
Broken ones might.
Good luck ever finding someone to repair that though. IF they even accept, it's gonna be several grands worth of repairs, purchase of other similar watches for parts, spread over at least a year.
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>>16192022
Your watch is tacky, looks cheap and shit
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>>16192049
I have some money saved up but im just a cheap fuck
I’ll probably sell the tevise if I’ll be satisfied with the rotary
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>>16192056
Most independents would refuse it outright
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>>16192034
literally never
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>>16192062
>probably sell the tevise
to who? You're the only "person" retarded enough to buy literal trash like that
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>>16192062
lmao
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>>16192091
Top grade which is chrono without the certificate
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>>16192116
lmao
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>>16192093
>>16192099
I live in a retarded country, maybe someone stupider than me will buy it, it was cheap anyway so maybe I’ll just keep it or give it to someone.
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>>16192123
What should they be using instead?
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>>16192127
if you think you're getting anything better than a base grade movement in your sinn shitter you have another thing coming to you kid
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>>16192129
Finished your pancakes I see
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>it's another wrist shot of a yuppy with his Submariner Date and his Mercedes S-Class
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Rate my two watch collection. Super accurate.
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>>16192140
>neither a mudman nor a forester
>not a peniswatch
0/10, apply yourself
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>>16192143
It’s a doublepenis!
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>>16192140
Good to see you again, australian-bro.
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>>16192140
Nice dopplecock.
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>>16192147
Two penises and three balls? That's a stretch.
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>>16192158
One of the balls is hidden. They’re definitely touching.
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>>16191990
>>16191986
Only? How?
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>>16192168
It's Steinhart so it's a shitter
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>>16192131
>Finished your pancakes I see
That pleb's not me, I was at 95% pancakes and then I got more pancakes, a bunch of Indian food, and a fruitcake. Fruitcake is eaten and I'm at 30% Indian now.
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IT'S UP! GET IN HERE NOMOS BROS!

https://youtu.be/IL1H_p73g2E
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Rate my latest Timex purchases, I'm just waiting for them to be delivered.
There's a vintage Ironman on the left & a mk1 aluminium on the right.
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My watch has arrived
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>>16192240
Opeeeen it
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>>16192240
They really do look so much better in person than in pictures online
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>>16192252
Even more boring that a speedy or a sea master.
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>>16192221
poor/10
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>>16192129
They come out of the box +-2 seconds a day with blued screws and a custom finish on the rotor. What more do you want for $1500?
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>>16192252
Yeah, so does my $500 Festina. Doesn't really mean much.
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>>16192240
>>16192252
>Aqua Troller actually got one
Wow.
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>>16192269
I didn't shit up these generals for weeks for nothing
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I want it bad lads, why do I have to be so poor?
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>>16192292
>he didn't put money into Dogecoin
Retard
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>>16192240
>>16192252
THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING STATE OF OMEKEKS
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>>16192252
Holy shit, you actually bought one instead of just trolling /wt/ with AT pics for months and months before switching to another watch. It's a fucking miracle.
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>>16192305
Lol
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I want it so bad bros.
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>>16192323
>aaayyy weeed LMAO
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>>16192252
congratz
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>>16192323
The 68xx is cool. It's one of only two movement designs from the pre-quartz era that Seiko still uses, and it's the only one to still retain it's old pre-quartz movement designation (since the 52xx is the 4Sxx now).
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>>16192292

nomos watch look like children's timex watches. they're not "fun". they're not "quirky". they just look cheap. show that watch to any normie and they'll think it's a cheap timex quartz colorful watch for a child.

just get a max bill chronoscope. at least the junghans looks like it belongs on the wrist of an actual adult. nomos watches are too childish.
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>>16192305
lol it's like four dimensions of pitiful.

Pitiful $6,000 is a huge amount to save
Pitiful he is letting a woman with no concept of money walk all over him
Pitiful he clearly hates her but stays with her
And finally, pitiful that he chose such a shitty, snorefest of a watch.
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>>16192305

my wife and I are multi millionaires and she recently talked me out of getting her bigger $7k diamond studs and instead got more modest $4k diamond studs (bought her the gift for the birth of our daughter). she was just happy to get something nice but didn't think the $3k jump to the next size was worth it. she meticulously keeps the earrings in a dedicated box so that she won't lose them. i'm happy to have a wife that knows the value of a dollar and doesn't want to be wasteful. imagine dating some ungrateful soulless vagina that jokes about smashing a six thousand dollar item. what a stupid spoiled cunt.
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>>16192397
Can I have $50k so I can buy an apartment and fix my life please, thanks. Alternately can I get a $20k/year work-at-home job please.
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>>16192292
>>16192204
look at this shit, what the fuck? why does teddy say they're great value for money? their movements are shit, the finishing is shit, it's overpriced garbage. the style is pretty cool but whatever, no refinement
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>>16192405
NOBODY IS LOOKING AT YOUR WATCHES WITH A MICROSCOPE YOU AUTISTIC SPERG
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>>16192401
Fuck off lol
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>>16192401
where can you buy an apartment for $50k?
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>>16192405
Oh no no no
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>>16192401

if you have to ask for money you're in no position for anyone to believe that you're on the way to fixing your life. mowing a few lawns per MONTH is enough for a couch in someone's house. if you can't afford a place to live you cannot be trusted with anyone's money.
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>>16192397
Do you pre-approve all gift ideas with your wife?
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>>16192439
That's called a reflection dumb ass
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>>16192438
In my country, I'd actually need a bit more for a nicer one but I can add that myself, don't want to ask for too much.
>>16192442
>mowing a few lawns per MONTH is enough for a couch in someone's house.
Must be nice to be American, what can I say.
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>>16192443
Have you ever kissed a woman?
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>>16192252
>>16192240
congrats. I think its best looking for omega.
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>>16192443

???

We went to buy the earrings together. We typically discuss "large" (greater than ~$2k) purchases, as should any household with shared finances.
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i still love my san martin!
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>>16192453
So how is that a gift?
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>>16192449
Buying your wife a gift and going shopping with her while she picks out earrings are two different things anon.
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>>16192448
Is this the shit posting Prague anon who bitches about how much eggs cost by any chance
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WAKANDA FOREVER!
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>>16192471
Apartments in Prague are 5-6k per sqm so you'd need at least $250k for a small one.
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>>16192471
Yes, you should see this guys asshole, he will stick anything in it for $5.
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>>16192477
You might as well live in a first world country at that price
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>>16192480
This pretty much sums it up
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>>16192464
So your answer is obviously "No"
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>>16192459

How is it not a gift? I paid for them. Are you saying it’s not a gift because she helped pick them out?

Let me help you with the English language: something is still a gift if the recipient helps pick out the item. It’s no longer a SURPRISE if the recipient picks out the item, but it’s still a gift.

We have both shared and separate accounts. I paid for the earrings with my fun money. That’s a gift you absolute retard
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>>16192252
Congrats, 38mm in blue was always a strong contender for me - love that box too.
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>>16192348
Funnily enough, it's the least Nomos-y Nomos that's the best looking.
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>>16192493
Don't even bother, these mongoloids haven't ever talked with a woman let alone entered a long-term relationship where financials are a factor. Good on you for being nice to your wife.
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>>16192494
Nice DJ
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>>16192405
>why does teddy say they're great value for money?
Because they are.

>their movements are shit,
Their movements are some of the relatively few ones in their price range that are manufactured & finished in house, and their movements are finished to a much higher standard than other watchmakers in their main price range do.

>the finishing is shit,
Their movement finishing is significantly better than their class competitors. Their external finishing is meh, but that's the trade off for how much better their movement finishing is than anyone else at their price-point.

>it's overpriced garbage
No.
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>>16192405
>>16192439
ew
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>>16192494
Nice DJ. Normally I wouldn't say the jubilee goes with the smooth bezel version, but since Rolex introduced the polished center link on the oyster for those, the jubilee is actually the more understated choice now.
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>>16192516
These are true however Nomos look the way dry oat meal tastes.

It doesnt matter how good they are for you or how they are great low gi carbs its bland as fuck
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>>16192527
The only model of theirs I don't hate aesthetically is the club, but I defend them because they are one of the very few watchmakers that live in the $750-$3,250 uncanny valley that actually give a shit about horology and don't just try to spend as little as possible on manufacturing so they can spend as much as possible on advertising trying to pleb catch normies (See: Longines, Tissot, Hamilton, TAG, Maurice Lecroix, Baume & Mercier, etc.)
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>>16192523
Yeah I really don't like the PCLs on the datejust, or the bling of a fluted. I'm searching around for a second hand oyster bracelet at the moment, of which I'll get the PCLs other than the clasp brushed to slap on occasionally. Hopefully won't look too weird with the polished lugs.

>>16192508
Thanks man!
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>>16192240
>BBLE CREEK APTS
>Hello internet, i live somewhere here with an expensive watch and really bad security measurements and probably more expensive stuff

How did you manage to make enough money with so little common sense?
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getting a stowa marine 36 w/ arabic numerals, anyone else have this watch or have any thoughts?
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>>16192591
Seems plausible, but it's just as likely it's just scrap paper. If you're willing to pick up a burglary charge go ahead and find out.
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>>16192591

>I’m going to journey far and wide to commit a burglary because I saw that someone has a $5k item in their house

Almost every family has $5k worth of small valuables in their home. Stop acting like this guy just set himself up to get robbed. Nobody fucking cares.

Also, which unit is he in? You gonna kick in every door? Lmao who cares if you know the building.
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>>16192611
>almost every family has $5k worth of small valuables in their home
Cool yeah I'll just traipse around an apartment collecting all the used laptops, tchotchkes and kitchenware into a big bag marked "swag" and spend the next six months trying to shift it on Facebook Marketplace instead of just swiping the watch.
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>>16192618
Assuming it's actually there, in one of the several apartments, which are likely locked. Were you born stupid or were you dropped?
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>>16192618

Which unit is he in? Will you be kicking in 25 different doors in search for one Omega shitter? Lmao
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>>16192601
>go ahead and find out
I'm don't want that omega even for free. Dude should have got the seamaster.
>>16192611
Burglars just scope out buildings for a while. If i were one, i'd be looking for a guy with that omega on his arm and bingo.
>>16192618
To be fair, laptops get stolen, especially apple crap. And pro thieves don't do it like that. They sell it to the electronics guys that wipe the laptops clean, change a few things and sell them used and not traceable.
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>>16192626
Why are you retards thinking like children?
>scope out area
>spot guy leaving house with an omega on his arm
>note the times when he is gone and break in
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>>16192627
Oh so you're just LAPRing, makes sense in /wt/
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>>16192627
>Burglars just scope out buildings for a while.

Lot of perceived effort here for a single mid range watch

>fly to wherever that guy lives
>get a place to live
>scope out the building for multiple days or weeks until you see the sperg wearing the aqua Terra
>find his apt and burglarize it

Can we stop fantasizing like it’s 1999 and we’re still afraid of the internet? People knowing what watch you have and what building you live in isn’t really much of a risk. Far too much effort for such a high effort and low reward crime
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>>16192634
Assuming he lives there, idiot. This is the dumest conversation I've seen on 4chan, and that's saying something.
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>>16191740
i just bought 7 tevise watches. bit rattly. much prefer pagani design.
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>>16192635
Of course i am larping. But i'm trying to tell people that exposing stuff to the internet might be a stupid idea.
Here a better scenario that might be more realistic
>omega guy manages to annoy some sperg
>sperg forwards the info to some lowlifes to fuck with the guy
>guy might get i trouble

Of course burglars don't frequent this board, but why make yourself vulnerable to the internet?
>>16192640
>get a place to live
A car with tinted windows is all you need to do some surveillance.
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>>16192591
Lmao. I'm an engineer and that's just a power distribution map of an apartment complex for a project I'm working on. best of luck
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>>16192648
>>omega guy manages to annoy some sperg
;)
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>>16192641
Okay, THAT'S FUCKING IT! I will find the guy and shit on his doorstep, just to prove a point.
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>>16192650
Lol, yeah i understand the irony. But-but...i'm just trying to warn people, come one, haha.
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>>16192652
NO DONT DO IT
Leave an MVMT on the doorstep instead.
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/wt/ meetup at BBLE CREEK when
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>>16192649
>just a power distribution map of an apartment complex for a project I'm working on

A normal person would figure that out pretty quick by looking at the drawing on the paper, but we have a lot of retards on this board.
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>>16192657
read >>16192640

It's not early internet days, it's not smart to reveal where you live but there is no proof he did that. You are failing to make the kind of point you think you are.

You're a sperg for keeping up the LARP
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>>16192649
So you're an electrician?
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>>16192665
>only 655€ and 10 hours to shit on some fags doorstep

655€ for the whole flight, not only one way, damn that's cheap.
>>16192671
Soon! Very soon brother.
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>>16192688
Power Distribution Engineer
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>>16192697
So an electrician?
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>>16192689
desu you will probably be shot by an american cop before you even get close to the apartment
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>>16192704
No. That would require actually working. I shitpost on 4channel all day while working from home.
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>>16192494
I'm so used to seeing datejusts with the tacky meme bezel that I forgot how good they can actually look
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>>16192697
Well you can soon engineer my fat log from your doorstep.
>>16192706
>Sir what is in the paperbag?
>human feces sir
>you are under arrest, please comply
>be white and comply
>do not get shot
>cops release me due to my fun story how i want to shit on some electricians doorstep.
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>>16192715
So what do you actually do, just draw the power lines for an actual electrician? Because that would be fucking hilarious if that's how it's done in America.
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>>16192730
This is how power structures work in America. 99% of the labor is left to the poorsies and the CEO class doesn't really do anything but make more than the rest combined
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>>16191740
Why even waste money on this? It makes you look like a retarded gorilla nigger.
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>>16192405
i dont understand how can nomos fans can buy something that looks like this and not get bored within the day. Theres no texture, no sunburst, no linen dial, no guilloche, no 3D elements, nothing that changes how the watch looks from different light settings, its just a flat piece of paper, even the crystal is flat and lifeless, maybe this is nitpicking and just how 'BAUHAUS' works
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>>16192397
Me an my wife are multiquazillionaires and we laugh at you
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>>16192778

imo nomos is the WORST of bauhaus out there. as you said...

>flat crystal
>flat dials
>childish colors and watches that look like they're made for children

I do not get it. Junghans has nice ADULT-LOOKING watches for $1-2k (half the price of NOMOS) >>16192348. Even Junkers (unfortunate name in English) has a much nicer looking Bauhaus watch for 500 euros (pic related). Also looks like an actual adult timepiece and not a happy meal toy

Why the fuck would ANYONE pay $4k for a NOMOS? Nomos' offerings are literally indistinguishable from fashion watches.
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forgot pic
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>>16192597
Enjoy your ladies watch wristlet
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Thawlts? I know that Invicta is generally looked down upon but I have to say, their skeletonized mechanical watches look pretty cool at a glance. Haven't seen any pics of what it looks like on wrist, though
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>>16192773
Sorry Terry
Always wanted one
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>>16192778
>>16192810
>>16192813

Even if you DO like flat crystals and childish color schemes, why not just get a Stowa for 1/4th the price of the NOMOS.

NOMOS makes zero sense. Complete faggot brand.
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>>16192822
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>>16192778
>BAUHAUS
Hitler tried to save us bros
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>>16191740
holy fuck lol thats hilarious I love it
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>>16192820
Did you buy it ironically? I’m not trying to be a hater, just curious because it looks like total shit.
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>>16192826
>Hitler
>Having an eye for design

You have Hugo Boss to thank for any semblance of style Nazis had. Hitler was a failed artist before anything else.
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>>16191740
that magnification looks so bad
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>>16192597
I would go with the roman numerals personally, the arabics look too boring on the watch
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>>16192822
>why not just get a Stowa for 1/4th the price of the NOMOS.
Because some people actually care about horology.
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>>16192815
>Case Size 40 mm
that thing will wear like a 46mm watch because of the diagonal length

>their skeletonized mechanical watches
>their
>invicta
>mechanical

no, these are supplied chinese OEM movements, such "skeleton bridge" watches have been around for long time. Invicta doesnt make movements themselves. Even their tourbillion is supplied by a HK company iirc
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>>16192831
It looks better in real life, I bought it kind of from curiosity and won’t be wearing it often
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>>16192832
>Hitler was a failed artist before anything else.
Failed how exactly?
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>>16192832
>t. seething jew
Hitler was an amazing artist, kikes like you have no creativity beyond perversion.
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>>16192841
>bad composition
>light sources in ever direction
>flat buildings
>glops of paint where a forest should be

I'm sure he's better than you, at least.
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>>16192832
>a failed artist
?
He wasnt even a working artist. He applied to art school. Could you be called a failed chef if you didnt even enter cooking school or much less worked in a resturant?

Whats the point of going to art school if you could already draw? they should have accepted and taught him. The only issue he had was lack of knowledge about perspective but that is easily taught.

t. illustrator
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>>16192840
>>16192847
>>16192841
Seething Proud Boys, post a frog t will make you feel better.
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>>16192839
I don’t buy anything I wouldn’t be proud to hand down to my children.
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>>16192851
You will never be a woman
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>>16192480
The last one should be fake rolex's
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>>16192864
Too late, I already am ;)
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>>16192847
>The only issue he had was lack of knowledge about perspective
Let's see it retard. I want to see you draw the vanishing points, horizon, ground line, orthogonals and transversals, and show us this lack of knowledge.
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>>16192859
Good mentality
I can always throw it in the trash and pretend I never had it kek
I’ll hold onto it for now until I find a better alternative tho
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>>16192845
>glops of paint where a forest should be
>what is impressionism
>what is illusion and feeling

are you going to paint every single tree to draw a forest? thats just dumb.

yes, the composition is very weak and from the lighting it is obvious he was self taught from old medieval style paintings and the like where such things are not important

but that is why someone would enter a fucking SCHOOL, genius
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>>16192836
>Because some people actually care about horology.

>lets focus on the inside of the watch that you never see while wearing it
>we'll just ignore the fact that the actual EXTERIOR of the watch is ugly and has low quality craftmanship (see: >>16192405)
>and we'll pay $4k for this watch that will be worth $1.5k the second I take the stickers off (go look at NOMOS value retention LMAO)

You feel for too many memes. NOMOS makes pure garbage. Both the Junghans MB Chrono and the Junkers 100 Years Bauhaus watches BTFO any design from NOMOS. You're buying a watch for the DESIGN and the design of NOMOS watches is hot garbage.

Even their "autobahn" watch is a pure failure. They put some tachometer-looking lume on it and it's supposed to be a car inspired watch? The hands move all the way around the watch like on any other watch and the lume is fucking useless. What a joke. Reservoir watches made a completely new MOVEMENT to move the minutes hand across the dial like on a tach and have it fly back at new hours. They completely cucked NOMOS and they actually might deserve your $4k for an actually innovative movement any watch. Not a child-like piece of garbage with fancy movement decoration that you'll never see.
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>>16192875
Germany must have been in a sorry state, from ancient Greece until now you can only get into art school if you are talented. IT's not for teaching how to draw, it's about refining, dumbass.
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What watch should I buy for 14000 that ain't rolex
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>>16192887
Grand Seiko White Birch, you'll even have a couple thou left over
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>>16192887
this beauty, maybe get the blue one on a bracelet
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>>16192778
Fortunately, Nomos makes other models that have interesting textures, shapes and functionalities.
The Zurich World Timer, for instance, is a pretty neat take on a traveler's watch.

That particular Tangente is a heritage model. That's why Stowa makes one too. The original version Lange made one. All looked exactly like that.
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>>16192880
>You feel for too many memes.
The ones who fall for the memes are social status chasers, not people who actually care about horology.

Stowas are cheap Chinese outsourced trash with no horological value. Nomos' watches, whatever your opinions of their design aesthetics, are factually not. The rest of your post is nothing but an attempt at goalpost moving from the original question, so I'll be ignoring it.
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>>16192887
Zenith A384
JLC Master Chronograph
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>>16192867
Post tits
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Does anyone own any Seiko watches from the ALBA line? It's a budget/shitter brand, but how's the quality?
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>>16192887
This >>16192890 is objectively the right answer, but another option worth considering is an Omega Speedmaster Ed White. The external and movement finishing on that model put it in 'entry level JLC chrono' league. It's the best watch Omega makes.
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>>16192890
Why is that watch $10,000???
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>>16192901

>why yes I bought this ugly watch that looks like it's for children because the inside is pretty
>well, you see, you have to get out the microscope to see the beauty
>don't look at the dial under that microsope, though. it's really low quality, from afar and from up close
>i'm really into horology
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Friendly reminder that large watches (>38mm) are a modern shitty trend and men used to wear small watches no matter the size of their wrist.
You think wearing an 40mm shitter makes you manly? Are you more manly than SEAN CONNERY and his tiny watch?
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>>16192455
based
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>>16192901
>chinese outsourced trash
Well, to be fair, only the case and caseback are made in China. That being said, it pisses me off to no end that they did this.
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>>16192927
It has a Dual Impulse Escapement, is Hi-Beat, and has an 80 hour power reserve. Plus that dial.
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>>16192930
(You) not caring about horology does not constitute an argument that no one else does. Your narcissism simply precludes you from accepting that others may not think the same way you do or care about the same things you do.
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>>16192932
>are a modern shitty trend
To appease the chinese and other asian markets don't forget.
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>>16192935
Where do they get the hands and dials made?
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>>16192932
yeah "style icon" is what I think when I see your pic
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>>16192932
You are objectively correct. Smaller watches just have a ton of class. When I see fatsos wearing bulking watches to compensate for their poor proportions I simply laugh .
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>>16192936
You forgot to mention the significantly upgraded movement finishing compared to previous 9Sxx powered models.
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>>16192867
You... are not
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>>16192932
Extremely based
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>>16192939
Someone here argued yesterday that 36mm watches are for women, there are definitely some 400 lb people hooked up to their CPAP machines on here.
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Imagine wearing a watch larger than 38mm to look more "manly"
LMAO
M
A
O
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>>16192890
the dial looks really ugly, I'd wait until the movement becomes standard across their lineup
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>>16192886
>Germany must have been in a sorry state
It was. You know why? Jews were in control of Germany. Do you seriously not know about the German (Jewish) Revolution of 1918 and the ensuing Weimar Republic?
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>>16192932
I guess you need to tell this guy he's wrong.
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>>16192952
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>>16192961
If they got conquered by Jews then they don't deserve their own culture.

t. India
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>>16192947
Is it China? I honestly don’t know.
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>>16192947
Pforzheim, most likely, there's a number of parts suppliers in the city. GO gets their dials made in Pforzheim.
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>>16192930
" I don't care about the time...i care about the dial....i use my phone to tell the time."
-Billionaire Kevin O'Leary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6yrhFgVqkc&ab_channel=TeddyBaldassarre
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>>16192962
Wearing a sports watch suitable for the sport he's currently engaging in? That's no problem.

Continuing to wear that sports watch, though, is no different than wearing soccer cleats casually.
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>>16192973
He's only into watches because he is trying to distract himself from the fact he let his wife murder a man when he let her drive his boat into the man's head.
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>>16192962
how big were the early subs? 38mm?
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>>16192978
If you get hit by a boat while on a boat you deserve it. The water is flat and wide open. Be more defensive.
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>>16192983
I think the first was 37, and the year after that they were 39
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>>16192927
because it completely mogs watches three times its price
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>>16192932
>You think wearing an 40mm shitter makes you manly?
No, but the chinese market does, why do you think they love G-Shocks so much?
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>>16192985
but a woman was driving the boat, it's impossible for them to predict how they might interpret how to drive a boat
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>>16192959
post a good looking dial
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>>16192962
Subs at the time were 36-38mm though.
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Ad from the early 70s
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>>16192951
I don't think I'm autistic enough to appreciate expensive watches. Just looks like gears to me.
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>>16192951
how can the mountain jews at Patek and AP defend this?
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Just go under the water
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>>16193009
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>>16192998
The first Sub, the ref.6204 was 37mm. By 1965, when Thunderball came out, the Sub (ref. 5512 and 5513) was 40mm.
The one pictured in >>16192962 is the relatively uncommon Explorer-dial 5513 made between 1962-65.
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>>16193002
Cool. Does anyone actually dive with watches anymore? Dive computers are the only way to go
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>>16193006
The things that take the movement finishing on the 9Sa5 into another tier than previous 9Sxx movements are the polished angled bevels on all the plates and screw holes, the finer graining of the striped finish on the plates, That's quite a bit more finishing work than goes into the older 9S movements.
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>>16193009
The new 9Sa5 has movement finishing comparable to an entry level JLC or a Zenith, haute horlogerie movement finishing is a whole other level than that. Patek, AP, VC and ALS movement finishing is on a totally different planet.
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>>16192976
so wearing big watches are the same as wearing football jerseys casually?
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>>16193021
Yes, either as a "flex" or as a redundancy in case the computer fails. Most probably don't though.

Personally, I've always wondered if Saturation Divers are actually wearing Sea Dwellers or Planet Oceans or Tunas.
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>>16193019
>relatively uncommon Explorer-dial 5513 made between 1962-65
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>>16192967
DESIGNATED
SHITTING
STREETS
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>>16192962
What a shitty ad. Why the fuck do you put "Albert R. Broccoli" in the same font as "Ian Fleming"?

Why the fuck do you choose a picture of Bond where the watch is BARELY visible?

You're fucking Rolex, you couldn't have paid for a shot of the Bond chick lustily hanging onto a distracted Connery as he casually checks his watch as of he has more important things to do?
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>>16193036
So you prefer to live in a society ruled by Jews?

Okay
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>>16192950
>>16192932
Based.

Big watches can be attributed to:
>Fats
>Rappers
>Arnold Schwarzenegger/Stallone
>Chinese watch makers who like having a lot of space to shove shit in
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>>16193049
No, but I also prefer not to live in the world’s anus
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>>16192887
Credor
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>>16193038
Are you 10? Never seen a movie poster? It's an ad for the film Thuderball and for Rolex. These were cheap films with product placement meant to turn a buck.
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>>16193058
So you acknowledge that without Jews we would all be living in our own shit?
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>>16192841
Wait why the fuck wouldn't that get you INTO art school? Is it that hard to get into art school?

I get that there's flaws in it or whatever, but surely that's good enough to show you have potential, right?

>T. Artlet
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>>16192779
How's the divorce treating you and your tranny wife, Bill?
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>>16193069
Not really, there is a major difference between someone who can paint or draw well and someone who is a classically trained artist. When you go to art school it isn't just painting, it's sculpture, architecture, and more. In modern day they focus on digital mediums and advertising as well.

It's anecdotal, but they used to say that during the Renaissance when modern standards of proportion and perspective were developed that you could only be an artist if you were capable of drawing a perfect circle in childhood. It might sound easy but doing this informs what it means to actually have an eye for art.
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>>16192938
Is she nude? WTF, keep your pedo shit to yourself. MOOODS!
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Tudor stepping on Yema's toes with this one. They aren't just going to make another blue Black Bay, right?
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>>16193089
i hate this fucking larping... whoever is falling for these boomer adverts is retarded
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I saw this one is 50% off so I wanted to give it a thought but I've never heard of the brand and I'm not sure if even with the discount it's overpriced.
Anyone has any idea?
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>>16193069
in a logical world, yes. But modern art school is also about subversion and the corruption of traditional art. Most modern art graduates cannot actually paint for shit.
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>>16193104
This is untrue. If you can't do traditional art well you will not be accepted into art school. Some of my best friends in HS went to hoity toity art schools and it is actually crushingly difficult, because it is nothing like you think it is.
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>>16193101
>IT IS 1881.
>In Switzerland – the home of watchmaking – a traditional watch atelier under the name of Albert Riele is founded. Since that time Albert Riele has become a modern brand, with a tasteful logo that reflects its character and a whole array of fabulous timepieces, Swiss Made, of course.
>In 2016 Albert Riele celebrated its 135th anniversary.

>go to website
>randomly clicked on 5 different watches
>all quartz shitters
>above $1000 per watch

its heritage shit
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>>16193115
Artist staments are 1000% more important than whatever you actually make at least at any art school in the USA
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>>16193126
We both know you have no idea what you're talking about
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>>16193115
>m-modern art is worth something

no, its entirely jewish subversion + money laundering.
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>>16193132
I didn't say that, I am talking about how to get into art school. "Modern Art" is all about washing money in auctions nowadays. That's why art is as inflated as it is right now despite pieces like this.
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Does San Martin or any Ali brand make a <39mm diver that is an original design?

The rolex font and mercedes hands are cringe even on a rolex. Much less a copycat.
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>>16193130
No you can cruise through NYU college of arts or any other prestigious art school making absolute garbage and writing artist statements about how you are subverting the patriarchy by not showering or whatever.
There are maybe a handful of traditional studio art programs where this isint true but most US art schools are just babysitting for trust fund brats.
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>>16192649
>>16192591
>based Aqua Troller still dabbing on haters
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>>16192815
>>16192838
I will never trust or buy another manual wind. I had a peseux that you can never tell if it's wound and broke even before resistance.
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>>16193154
It's just untrue. To get into any art school you need to make a portfolio to demonstrate what you are capable of. If all you can do is scribbles and talk about patriarchy you won't get in anywhere. Maybe if your parents donate a wing like Ivy League, but it just doesn't happen like that. It's too competitive.
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>>16193025
>Patek, AP, VC and ALS movement finishing is on a totally different planet
yeah in their 100k models
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>>16193222
Well, I cant vouch for what level of Patek and AP are doing on their chepaer models but VC does all their movements except those on entry level Fifty Six models to Geneval seal standards and ALS does all their movement finishing to the same high standard.
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i finally found a tag heuer I like
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>>16193275
Its shit
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>>16193275
Say hi to Jane at the mall for me.
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>>16193072
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>>16193302
Why so much hate for Tag around here? Should I go with Nomos instead? Have around $2k to spend
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>>16193323
Nomos is fucking gay Jew shit for homos.

Seiko 5
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>>16193323
You should get a real watch like Damasko.
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>>16193323
I'm intrigued by the tag hate on here too. You don't see it out in the real world. Seems like a great brand desu.

However you do have to be a fucking cunt to wear homos after they outted themselves as a bunch of utter cunts.
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>>16193329
That's probably uglier than the piano watch posted above
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>>16193335
>>16193325
Sorry. Didn't know there was anything wrong with Nomos. What did they do?
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>>16193323
>>16193335
Heuer was a once-great manufacturer of truly excellent chronographs.
Then they got bought out, became TAG Heuer, and started selling quartz/ETA-powered mallshitters.

They are just barely starting to make halfway decent watches again. They are where Omega was in the early 90s;
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>>16193323
modern 2020s tag is probably fine.

personally for 2k i'd get some seiko prospex shitter or an oris pointer date.

$2k is like no mans land for watches, the grey limbo between tiers.
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>>16193341
They declared "nazis bad" and didn't realize that they would offend /wt/
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>>16193335
90% of their catalogue is cheap and garish looking mall shitters. Granted they are taking some steps in the right direction but they need to clean out all the trash. Breitling is better
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>>16193349
It's a little more than that.
They declared "nazis murderers" after an asylum seeker killed someone.
And then they made their staff attend political correctness brainwashing courses.
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>>16193341
virtue signaling + pushing SJW politics. In watches.

someone here probably has the complication image, i didnt save it
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>>16193354
compilation*

fucking auto correct
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>it’s another 300 posts of polcels still seething about Nomos
Tim Mosso at WatchBoxDotCom said his favorite Nomos was the Lambda. Wonder how you guys will cope with this one. Not very well, if this thread is anything to go by.
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>>16193348
>>16193345
Ah I gotcha. Guess I'll look for newer TAGs. Maybe I'll find a good deal on eBay. Thanks for the info.

>>16193349
>>16193354
And yea I'm definitely a white man so I will be avoiding NOMOS then.
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>>16193363
>7.5k for a nomos
I thought this was a value brand??
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>>16193363
>X person says...

why should you give a shit what other people say? grow a fucking spine
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>>16193323
I really honestly don't like the watch you posted, the hands and indices dont go well with small seconds, the small seconds having a big chunk out of it for the date looks bad the case finishing looks bad.
For 2k a used nomos would be good, if you can find a minimatic that would be perfect.
The other watches i would suggest are one of the quartz grand seikos or one of the citizen chronomaster quartz models, i think the finishing is much better than on the tag and they will be much better watches in general if you are okay with quartz
https://www.sakurawatches.com/citizen-the-citizen-aq4080-52l
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>>16193366
it was like $20k before they finally released a steel version
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lol
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>>16193370
>>16193371
That's Glashutte Original money.
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>>16193366
>>16193370
>>16193371
>>16193376
The Lambda and Lux have their movements hand finished to a much higher standard than regular Nomos models. The level of finishing the steel Lambda gets at $7,500 actually does make it a great value.
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>>16193387
Looks unimpressive, ngl
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>>16193101

this is obviously a shitter
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>>16193391
You don't know what you're looking at.
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>>16193391
Please feel free to post some other $7,500 dollar watches with hand engraved balance cocks, black polished gold chatons, hand polished anglage and countersinks, heat blued screws, and several blackpolished components. This is entering the territory of high horology movement finishing and is in a different class than Grand Seiko's 9Sa5, or what Zenith or JLC provide in this price range.
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>>16193387
looks like a shitter with laser engraved letters
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>>16193404
if you have to explain "how impressive it is" it has already failed
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>>16193404
They save a shit load of money printing all their on a 90s ink jet printer they found in a skip.
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>>16193414
>replying with a tumblr gif

yeah ok, we know you LOVE nomos.
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>>16193329
why? sinn 556 looks so much better
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>>16193391
That's okay, not everybody needs to like everything. I personally would never buy a Nomos at that price level but this is their halo product in a way and they probably expect that they won't sell too many of these. I also dislike watches that aren't round so the really expensive one looks even dumber to me.
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>>16193408
Your real or pretended ignorance of the elements that distinguish between quality of movement finishing don't change the objective facts.

>>16193406
If they were going to hand engrave all the lettering they certainly wouldn't be selling a steel version for $7.5k. To my knowledge virtually no other watchmaker is offering a comparable level of movement finishing under $10k, so any nitpicks about how the lettering is done are moot.
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>>16193417
You can like or dislike the brand as much as you like, but if you don't know what you're looking at and you need it spoonfed to you, you really shouldn't be on /wt/.
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>>16193421
I think all the Lux and Lambda watches are limited production. The amount of work that goes into them probably isn't worth it to make them regular production models.
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>>16193425
that looks like shit dude, seriously? looks like a fucking seagull movement

This is obviously way different from one of those VC movements where its extremely obvious how beautiful it is
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>>16193426
is this like modern art where you have to explain how "beautiful" and "skillful" it is, when everyone looking at it is rolling their eyes internally?
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>>16193430
>This is obviously way different from one of those VC movements where its extremely obvious how beautiful it is
That's a retard comparison, though, because there are no sub-10k VCs.

>Hurr, this Civic isn't as fast as an F1 car. It's shit.
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>>16193425
Okay I mean you're really starting to lose me here. It's a well done movement and it's nicely finished but if you look at all watches below 10k...there's a lot of strong competition if you're willing to look somewhere else besides VC, patek, AP.
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>>16193434
No, it's more like you don't know fuck-all about watches past the brand-name printed on the dial.
/wt/ hates Nomos now, so you reflexively just follow along.
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I really love the dutiful defender of the nomos lambda
such a loosing battle but he bravely fights it at least once a week
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>>16193430
Vacheron Constantin movements are typically finished to Geneva Seal standards, which are another entire tier above the kind of hand finishing Nomos does on the Lux and Lambda. No watchmaker on earth offers Geneva Seal tier movement finishing under $10k. Furthermore, as Nomos is german its movements are design and finished in the German rather than Swiss style.

Once again, your ignorance of the art of movement finishing, its traditions, levels and styles, does not change the objective facts.
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>>16193442
Any examples? Or are you speaking hypothetically?
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>>16193439
>the dial is unimpressive
>the movement is unimpressive and has to be explained instead of standing on its own feet
>looks the same as a $200 seagull or even worse

what a worthless brand. It literally does nothing except to scam redditors into wasting their money.
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>>16193417
Don't talk to her like that and get out of my thread.

It's ok, m'am. Your watch is really neat.
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>>16193454
>the movement is unimpressive and has to be explained
This makes no sense. Why should the company seek out the dumbest kid on the internet and explain hundreds of years of watchmaking tradition to him?
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>>16193354
No fucking way. Someone post it
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>>16193442
There isn't. The movements in the Lux and Lambda are extensively hand finished and it is exceedingly rare to find hand finished movements in sub $10k watches.

>>16193449
There are at least two of us patiently explaining movement finishing to people arguing in bad faith/trolling here.

>>16193454
The movement only has to be explained to people totally ignorant of horology, like you are or are pretending to be. Anyone who would be considering purchasing those watches would not need the movement finishing explained to them, because I can't imagine who would be interested in buying a Lambda or Lux that wasn't interested in horology.
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>>16193463
good products are obvious, you dont need to be a food critic to know if a meal is good or a curator to know a sculpture is beautiful.

but if you have to explain "well yes but...no but...you see..." that means the product has failed.
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nomos big gay
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>>16193471
At least this thread will be over soon, so you won't have to keep backpedalling like this.
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NOMOS:

-8/10 movement
-0.5/10 dial

overall score
4.25/10

FAIL
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>>16193474
>completely dodges the point

ok, go buy your beautiful and amazing nomos lux, sweetie.
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>>16193480
>still backpedalling.
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>>16193480
>>16193474
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>>16193485
imagine paying $20k for this. SOI overload
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>>16193430
>This is obviously way different from one of those VC movements where its extremely obvious how beautiful it is
You only "know" a VC movement is beautiful because you were told ahead of time it's a VC. You're like the kid from a few threads back arguing a Rolex Day-Date is HH.
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>>16193418
incredible manufactory movement vs swatch shitter movement in that sinn
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Nomos haters
>don’t know anything about finishing
>don’t know anything about movements
>don’t know anything about watchmaking
Kek. You guys make yourselves look more and more stupid each thread.
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>>16193488
Hey, where are you going with those goalposts?
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>>16193496
I mean, realistically he/they are just trolling, but arguing about movement finishing is better use of posts in these threads than 99% of the garbage that gets posted here normally these days.
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>why yes, I do recommend Nomos!
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>>16193500
Some are, but these people exist. Just look at the mongoloids unironically saying to buy Junghans or Stowa instead. These people are clinically brain dead and should probably be put out of their misery.
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>>16193404
who gives a shit about that? no joke
what is the point in buying the most elaborately decorated in-house movement, if the watch looks like this >>16193371 the most inneficient use of space on a dial in existance
for that money a fucking 100% printed round dial in a fuckfuge tonneau case with thin sheet metal hands, garbage fake wire lugs
what are you going to wear the watch dial backwards?
their movement drives up the price so much, up front and for servicing that you can only get done by nomos realistically
they are not reinventing the wheel with their no date 3-hand movement
why are you paying that kind of money? to have the satisfaction that abdul in glasshutte rubbed two pieces of metal together for hours to achieve a worse finish than the cnc machines at omega could do in seconds
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>>16193503
nomos literally copied their design from old stowa watches, and junghans was the OG of bauhaus

maybe learn some watch history
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>>16193495
i cant get over the reticle face
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>>16193510
>who gives a shit about that?
People who care about horology.

>>16193513
The hilarious part is that you're so ignorant you can't even troll about that correctly. Hint: Neither Stowa nor Junghans made the first Bauhaus inspired watch design.
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>>16193513
I’d rather have a watch that’s actually well made instead of being up charged $200 for a crystal or having a chink made case. Fuck off you retard.
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>>16193510
"muh movement decoration" is just a sales gimmick for these butt ugly soi watches
movement finishing literally does nothing for how the watch functions. It is fluff

its the same exact reason why Rolex doesnt engage in such meaningless trifles
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>>16193522
>actually well made
>well made

>nomos
>$3000 movement
>$80 case
>$10 flat crystal
>$0.10 paper dial

>well made

nice watch bro. lmao
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>>16193495
>incredible manufactory movement
not in the model you posted
>also a movement from a micro brand that is going to cost a lot more to service
no thanks.
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>>16193527
i understand why nomos did what they did with the movement, its a selling feature. It allowed them to move upmarket and charge more for a simple looking watch. Having an in-house movement makes you relevant in certain circles. Good for them, but theyre still quite not for me.
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>>16193354
Isn't pointing out virtue signaling also a form of virtue signaling?
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>>16192971
>Pforzheim, most likely, there's a number of parts suppliers in the city. GO gets their dials made in Pforzheim.
GO also presumably don't get their cases made in china.
For all we know stowa cheaps out on hands and dials too.
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>>16192252
>cuck-axial
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>>16192348
I really like the look of this watch. It is an exceptionally clean design and everything on it seems to work together. But fuck, It is boring. It it is so fucking boring.
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>>16192501
GAY
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>>16193021
I dive with a watch but only recreational air diving
I also use my diving watch to cook eggs
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>>16192932
>Are you more manly than SEAN CONNERY?
Yes, I think I'm manlier than some fruity Hollywood actor
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What a shitty poster then
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>>16194515
>fruity Holywood actor
Connery was hard as nails. When he was shooting a film with Lana Turner, her mob enforcer boyfriend showed up on set and threatened Connery with a gun. Cannery grabbed the guy's wrist and twisted it so he dropped the gun then floored him with a single punch.
Michael Caine also tells a story about holding Connery's coat as he single handedly beat the shit out of 4 guys in a nightclub.
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bought a seiko snzg15 and it stops at 6 am cause i dont move enough to charge it from 0 up to the 36h mark
ill probably go for a long walk



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