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>>15350437thanks for the heads up on the pattern, wont waste my money on it.do collars make much of a difference in terms of viable uses?
>>15350484Extreme cutaways look odd with small tie knots and long collars in general can look outdated. Some can have contrasting stitching, which is more casual, but it varies according to each piece and personal taste. Styling-wise, for casual use, these are my main concerns. Quality-wise, look for collars and cuffs that have an interlining on them, they are a lot comfier and may help towards the shirt lasting longer. Really, comfort-wise they are as good as a tshirt.
>>15350575Like a suit, a cheap shirt will have fused collar and cuffs. It means that they are made out of 2 pieces of cloth (sometimes 3) glued together in order to give it shape. Some pieces have a third piece of cloth sewn between the 2 surfaces that makes it hold its shape while maintaining its flexibility. It is worse in jackets, because there the fused part will be in contact with your body all the time and it is not breatheable at all, but it is still nice to have a good shirt with non-fused cuffs and collars. I only have 1 shirt that has them like this, though. They are quite hard to find on RTW.
Reminder: The way you carry yourself, communicate, and act, are just as important, if not more important, than the way you actually dress. A reminder.
>>15350625Obviously but if you dress well you'll most likely feel more confident than if you put on say a tracksuit (unless you're out running or something like that).
>>15350625DuhForgive me brothers, I ran out of ocbd's and am wearing a Lego Star wars t-shirt that my fiancee got me as a joke.A laundry day confession by Anon
>>15350853Is okay uwu
No response in previous thread: how might a bomber be integrated into /tip/ or otherwise what is a good alternative?
>>15350968Just have a regular ivy outfit with a bomber instead of a sport coat.
>>15350968>what is a good alternative?A harrington jacket
la la land has given me fashion inspo
where the FUCK do I buy good linen shirts. Proper cloth / other M2M really neglect linen. They have so few options compared to other fabrics. RTW options I've found usually only offer slim fit, have weird sizing, or the colours/patterns are after thoughts.I found some niche italian m2m offerings, but the price points are hard to justify (like 200 euro starting).
>>15351018Isto.pt, a rather decent shirt going for 70. The collars and cuff are interlined, runs a bit wide (as it should) but the buttons are cheap corozo ones.>slim fit linenWhat the hell? Linen needs to be roomy because it doesn’t stretch at all. If it is slim, you probably wouldn’t be able to wear it with the button colar on comfortably.
>>15350997this guy is an autist magnet
Are topsiders tip?
>>15351083Yeah I'm verified autism and I have the drive jacket.
>>15350971Problem is most bombers are either black or a shiny synthetic which is imo no-go for /tip/, maybe something with a varsity-style wool and leather build but dunno of a good example.>>15350988I'm planning to get a cream Baracuta but they seem lighter than true bombers.
I think it looks better with laces maybe
>>15351094no, lift weights
is this too dark for tan or white chinos
>>15351761It's good for both>>15351094Skinny fit?>>15351225Better with laces
>>15351763you sure? i dunno if i can see this working with much desu
>>15351796Mate, that looks decent, either you're colour blind or very new with poor taste. Learn colour theory
>>15351083I've been told by a grill that I look like Ryan Gosling. What did she mean by that?
>>15351796Well, that's khaki, not tan. But yes, it looks good like that. I'd say better with tan than khaki.. It will also work with white
>>15352292just grabbed the first result from RL, but yeah its tan im wearing. good to know.>>15351841thanks, anon.
>>15351137Harringtons are better than bombers
>>15353048If you want to look like you're about 80 years old, sure.
>>15353054This could be applied to any piece of clothing, you're fucking retarded.
>>15353105No one looks 80 in a BOGO sweatshirt
What a shit thread, where is everyone?
>>15353311At home bc normies can't behave.
What colors should one avoid for striped shirts?
>>15353054Harringtons are pretty dated but bombers have gone from trendy to not. Idk what’s worse
>>15350853Wives have shit taste
Name a more based tie
Does anyone have a pic to illustrate the difference between well fitting and SLIM? Sometimes I can't tell if my shit is too tight or too loose or somewhere in between.
>>15353497Yeah I usually just tell her what I want with a list whenever she asks what I want for a present. It's odd because she dresses very well herself but she will get me some questionable stuff.
>>15353427Fluorescent pink. Nah but seriously probably green, yellow and even red.
>>15353540regular fit that is tailored is slim
Is an untucked madras buttondown and chino shorts + sperry topsiders a good default beach day outfit?
Deadass just gripped a new pair of penny loafers>>15353795Change the shorts to pants with a loose weave. Unless you're swimming.
>>15353464>>15353464MA-1 style bombers, perhaps. I'm picturing something more varity-jacket-esque. Wool and leather. Can't see much else working with tip.Honestly, though, what even is there for tip other than barbour jackets and suit coats that isn't outdated?
>>15354020Not really /tip/ but I've been wearing a chore coat
Sorry e-boy, in real life the ivy gets the girl
>>15354578Sometimes I wish I wasn't a fag
>>15354714i mean, tiddies are nice but would you ever choose to put up with a womans bullshit?
>>15354721Honestly no, I haven't even been in a sexual relationship with one but I know for a fact that woman make up bullshit, a lot. Also I find the male body much better to look at, all woman have to do is just not to eat like a pig. God, I hate women at times.
>>15354725dont we all, mate. most women are like, 6/10s at best if you have an eye for guys too. i just have 0 patience for bad attitudes, and rare is it you find a woman with a good one.
>>15354737I know bro. It’s so hard to find a female with an intellectual capacity to appreciate high brow art like hentai and doesn’t nag me about finding a job. Truly, women aren’t working hard enough to impress ME.
>>15354760kek unironically that. most fucking blokes have something going on in their heads, almost every fella has some interest he can talk about, something he does which he can talk about with others, and rarely do you find a bloke whos a total arsehole who isnt also a fucking loser. women tho, theres way too fucking many of them who are just fucking empty behind the eyes, nothing to them besides their vagina and what gets it wet.
>>15354772The guy replied to wasn't me (the gay NIBBA) but he's actually right, every time I ask a girl something she responds with between two or five words, they have no substance nor charisma and most certainly no intellect. I personally love art and so with conversations I bring it up sometimes, anyway, the women also say they love art yet they can't tell you who made the school of Athens or what the painting/sculpture represents or is trying to represent etc. Another point is that they love modern art for some fucking reason so they also have very poor taste. Oh and let's not look over the fact that most of them are whores.
>>15354834*The guy you replied to wasn't me (I'm the gay NIBBA)
>>15354432>chore coathello MFA
>>15354834>>15354837figured as much, anonalso wild guess as im not an artfag but raphael?
what's up with all the ammount of faggy comments lately?
>>15355399gay men are typically quite vain
>>15355252>also wild guess as im not an artfag but raphael?Yes, indeed, I'd love to see it irl one day and just most of what the Renaissance has given us, it's just absolutely stunning.>>15355399I don't know what you're talking about, mate.
>>15355399I don't think faggots can be /tip/, they always take it too far with the guady attention seeking fits and just look like your average faggot. Being subtle is /tip/. Suble elegance, it's the summation of the little details that make an outfit /tip/, the intricate knowledge that is effortless because it's so natural. Fags only have intricate knowledge on the depth of their asshole.
/fa/ is the worst board on 4chan
>>15356637you're thinking of /vp/
your trouser can't be the same colour as your jacke---
>>15356397you absolutely cannot be tip and talk like this
>>15353333Well they're clearly not in this thread
>>15357042those loafers are awful
>>15357073t. butthurt faggot
>>15357042This is really bad, the pants, socks and blazer are all of the same colour, he goes casual but it feels like some sort of suit (and looks terrible). I don't dislike the loafers as the other anon does, and actually the loafer's colour is good for that pant's colour
>>15357394I'd say the socks match the blazer in colour, the blazer looks textured so it's not soo suity but I see what you mean. Leather sole vs danite sole?
>>15357419>Leather sole vs danite sole?For office I think leather, for overall use dainite is more versatile because it lasts longer.
>>15357042The actual problem with this (apart from not actually being a suit as one anon pointed out) is that his pants are too short and that he's worn socks with a pair of loafers that practically demand that you go sockless. He generally dress like a goober though, so who's surprised?
>>15357042Is William the worst dressed royal? Why does the bald train hit Old Lizzy's children so hard? Or is it an Anglo thing?Btw there are sales at >Allen Edmonds>Drake's>Bills>Brooks Bros>C&j>Jpress>Jcrew>Orvis>Rancourt>Todd Snyder (for new preppies)>Sunspel
>>15354578Based Watatani Gahaku poster
>>15357999Drake has some pretty good pocket squares going for 30. Might but a few.
>>15358398The only pocket square you need is a white linen one
>>15358705Ahahaha mate, what the fuck are you talking about? So the next time you go to a black tie event you're just going to skip the pocket square and look like an absolute fucking retard? Also, white linen pockets squares can be worn with blazer combinations. Fuck other pocket squares and fuck you cunt.
>>15357379you’re literally that sperg who stands in the bar at my club loudly raving about fags and poors because he thinks it makes him fit inhe’s never invited back btw
>>15360065Fuck around and find out
>>15360065Is he going to shoot some nigs?
Is Brooklyn brothers good brand?
>>15360303His fit is actually better than most other people's fits here.
>>15357999orvis has great chinos
>>15360065lmfao I didn't notice the Brooks polo before. Style icon
>>15360303he doesn't have an a4, he has an a2. insanely based
>>15360034cope harder faggot, there are plenty of people who fucking despise your kind
>>15360385>plenty of people who fucking despise your kindSo mudslimes and spics?
>>15360385Lol if I recall, only 22% of american ADULTS use twitter, out of that 22%, 80% of tweets just come from a handful of users. Your "reality" is not reality.
>>15360303Brooks Brothers is good yes
>cop some nice looking shirts on ebay>collar fits comfortably>body doesnt on everything but the charles tyrwhitt one, which in spite of being made out of the most generic feeling work shirt fabric fits better than any of the others>arms too baggy on a lot of them>the one that does fit there fits so badly elsewhere that when i raise my arms i look like one of those gliding rodents>dont own a sewing machine and cant justify taking them into the tailors atmwhat do i do, /tip/?
>>15360609seems like you have a problem with low armholes. This is cheaper brands tend to do to fit more people. There's not really a way to fix the problem - just live with it and don't raise your arms too much
>>15360618not all of them, some are just really baggy in the sleeve itself, both too long and too wide. im sure a tailor could correct it but moneys tight lately. trying to learn how to dart shirts by hand but my last attempt was a fuckup.
>>15360609FEEL THE DRAPE
>>15360487Most of the people on twatter are liberals anyway, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>15360634I mean just wear a jumper or tweed coat to cover them and once the time is right take them to a tailor. I doubt that's it's expensive any, maybe ask the tailor for the price before actually doing any work?
>>15360186nah, just told them to keep walking after they broke onto his private property...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26FQU8GShrQ
>>15351104You really aren't doing yourself any favors are you?
>>15360761>AYY YO HE GOT A GUN N SHIETYou don't even know how much I hate niggers.
found 5 hermes ties, isaia, brooks bros, jpress, and zegna suits, awesome paul stuart trousers, and some todd snyder linen chinos at goodwill last saturday. feels good man
>>15360898Post proof or it never happened
>>15360609buy kamakura, their shirts have higher armholes
>>15360905at work rn, heres the ties
>>15360914They look kinda ugly, I guess the only point of buying a Hermes tie is to just flex your money (which you don't have lol)
>>15360914I am 85% sure those are fakes. The pattern seems printed, which Hermes never does, and the labels are way too uniform and look odd.
>>15360609I took some t-shirts to an alterations tailor once and he managed to cut down the size of the armholes. It is certainly possible with a regular shirt.
>>15360930>hmmm, yes, +100 dollar ties for five, it must be real!
>>15360914Not a fan of the ties but it sounds like a good haul. >>15360983Isn't that the whole point of thrifting?
>>15360990>>15360983Which also depends on the area. Some goodwill employees know nothing about what is good and what isn't. I found some pretty nice things that were marked regular because they weren't big brands. Inversely there is some pretty shit tier stuff that sells for 50 dollars because it has the PRL logo on it.
>>15360728its gonna be like, at least £10 a shirt, likely more. im sure its reasonable by their standards, but that makes them 4x the original price i paid for the shirts>>15360906i would love to when i have kamakura money>>15360940good to know, cheers.
>>15360999>its gonna be like, at least £10 a shirtHow little do you get paid that you can't afford to alter at least two or even one shirt?
>>15361007at the moment, 0. worse, political considerations and likely tax changes in the near future mean i have to divert savings that were going to go into a business towards getting the fuck out of here before the government decides it needs all of my money to pay for its fuck ups in addition to putting me out of work.
>>15361031Please explain. I am not tuned into British politics at all
>>15360925why are you so upset? >>15360930they checked all the right boxes for me. 1 logo w/ 5 spokes, the other w/6 , tie bars, slip knot, the feel of the silk >>15360983lol
where do you guys buy TIP clothes? i rely a lot on thrifting. i also shop from ISTO, ASOS, Topman, and American Eagle (in order from least to most shameful).its funny. i have an actual TIP life (law student from affluent family) but i dress like an absolute fraud
>>15361135Being tippy is not really about brands. If you can find good cuts and materials at a certain shop then you're good. I personally do a lot of vintage/thrift shopping as well because even some very old and established stores have started trending towards SLIM and STRETCH.
>>15361043we borrowed 550bn going into this, then proceeded to kneecap our economy by shutting down all non-essential businesses. the effect of this has been to bankrupt countless small to medium businesses while large corporations that can adapt to the huge bump in overhead rake in profits their competitors are legally prohibited from challenging. before this we were filing paperwork for a 25k business loan to buy a fishing vessel, with several grand in the bank. if that paperwork had gone through before lockdown hit we would now be bankrupt, and depending on the work situation we might well be anyway before the years over.right now the government is increasing business taxes quietly behind the scenes to try and make up for the massive expenditures it created for itself by paying everyone to be unemployed, and theres rumours of a coming 40% minimum income tax. in other words i will be losing half of my wages to pay for cunts to take a 4 month long paid holiday (we didnt qualify for the grant due to government date fuckery, by the way) for the foreseeable future. furthermore, what businesses survive this will be severely hurt by the prolonged period of 0 income and potentially degraded assets. during all of this bullshit that we were made to endure to "save our NHS" the conservatives refused to even control the borders let alone close them, in spite of the obvious concerns given we were all in lockdown to control the spread of a virus. but it gets worse still.
>>15361120>why are you so upset? I'm not at all, I'm just saying that they look ugly, can I not have an opinion? It actually sounds like you're pretty upset.
>>15361213That's just awful, anon. I absolutely hate these twats who went outside and clapped for the NHS, I even told a couple to shut the fuck up, thank God they're not doing that anymore. I do wish you the best, anon.
>>15361043>>15361213to add insult to injury, the "black lives matter" protests that have conveniently sprang up in our country in the last month have resulted in a great deal of destruction of our historic monuments, and the "conservative" governments response to this has been to tell them that theyre wrong and theyre being very naughty, while doing nothing to actually protect these statues save for one statue of churchill they chose to board up. historic figures from the left and the right are being pulled from building names, and books are being tossed out of universities. meanwhile, the scottish authorities saw fit to restrict all counter protesters to these fucking savages pretending to be british but allow the people who throw statues into rivers free reign. a recent ugov poll showed that apparently more non-white people in britain consider the country to be racist than not. there was also a recent conservative party policy leak which stated that their reaction to labours policy of mass migration which quite literally turned entire sections of cities from majority white to majority non-white over the course of 10 years (i know, i saw it with my own eyes growing up), is to simply cultivate a new generation of conservative politicians to cater to our newly christened countrymen who have made it quite clear they despise everything that we are and were, and wish to have us under their boot. were due a demographic census by next year, many are projecting we will be a majority non-white nation by that point and i strongly suspect we are right.given my preference for liberty and also men, even if an outright ethnonationalist comes to power (which is clearly all but impossible here given established interests) there will be no future for us here. we see no option left but to simply pack up and leave. we plan on saving for a yacht which we can take with us to australia over the coming years ill take spiders and snakes over these fucking rodents any day.
For loafers and mocs:Quoddy or Rancourt?
>>15361246>>15361213Damn thats crazy>>15361254Is price a factor?
>>15361315these were $4
>>15361315>>15361330Nice, you think they would price them higher considering the tag price
>>15357028I like how George only had Nike Cortez and black Oxfords before making the switch to Timberlands.
Decided to straight lace these I got a white pair coming now too these are really comfy desu
>>15361706You’re a cringe
>>15361702How on earth is this /tip/? If you were wearing white canvas sneakers and khaki trousers that would be decent but this?! Why did you bother to post this?
>>15361783>>15361706Some men just want to watch the world burn. >>15361702Post bussy
>>15361702B-tier fratcore if anything else, anon.Step up your game.
Do you guys have an opinion on this Ralph Lauren shirt? I can get it for cheaper at a local department storehttps://www.ralphlauren.com/men-clothing-button-down-shirts/classic-fit-striped-shirt/297659.html?dwvar297659_colorname=Blue%2FWhite&cgid=men-clothing-button-down-shirts&webcat=men%2Fclothing%2FCasual%20Shirts%20%20%20Oxfords
>>15361997collar looks like shit
>>15361246>many are projecting we will be a majority non-white nation by that point and i strongly suspect we are right.This is where you've gone full retard. No fucking way is this true.
>>15361997>>15362038That shit is so fused that it doesn’t bend in the slightest. Hard pass, must be a pain to wear.
>>15361213>>15361246All Western countries except for Germany fucked up their response to the coronavirus. I know it's little consolation. Sorry about the destruction of your history.
>>15361997>>15362038Maybe, I usually wear slim fit shirts sized L or M because of my constitution, and this shirt is regular sized. It's clearly a bad idea to button all the buttons up to the collar in any case.
>>15361246Sometimes the harvest needs to burn in order for new fruits to grow from the ashes. Let us try to remember the deeds of those who came before, maintain our cultural-social-racial counciousness and move on. When this dark period ends, we will prevail once again. But I am afraid that it is just beginning.
>>15362061Meant for >>15362046
>>15362061I'm talking about collar roll here. It doesn't have one.
>>15362133Thanks I see it now. I guess I'll pass
>>15362044You have no idea how fast things can change.
>>15362062>maintain our cultural-social-racial consciousnessYour optimism is refreshing, because to me this seems to be exactly what is not happening.
>>15362133You can puff it up a bit.
>>15361997I think this is the proper Oxford version of that shirt (with a better collar)
are these preppy? what outfit should i wear them with?
>>15362375I think they're nerdy
>>15355399Faggots pretending they’re fashionable because their married sugar daddy took them to the mall for once
>>15362044do you have any idea where things are? the conservative government has done absolutely nothing to stop the influx, its all cheap labour for them and muh GDP.>>15362050its absurd, its not just the initial incompetence but the continued incompetence. we have both the highest recorded mortality rate in the world but also an economy hit as hard as the US during the great recession.>>15362062im betting boganland has a brighter future, both economically and socially. the aussies are not very fond of black people from what i can gather, and they have massive potential for growth with a few infrastructure projects.>>15362176i am not so sure, given what im seeing from the normie sphere id wager were going to see a rise in a white working class identity here that is explicitly hostile to the current reigime, but its too little too late. we need repatriation and we needed it some 5 or 10 years ago.
Haven't posted in a long while.Jacket - MTM in Loro Piana four seasons hopsackShirt - BesnardTrousers - NatalinoLoafers - Carlos Santos
>>15362688>great recession*great depressionhavent had my morning coffee yet
>>15360065Jesus Christ, she has her finger on the fucking trigger.
>>15360065She's one sneeze away from blowing the camera man's face off.
>>15362691Good fit, I'd wear a tie though and maybe the blazer looks to be a bit too formal for the fit that you are wearing although normies won't notice and you'll probably get compliments. 8.8/10
>>15362792Thanks! I agree a tie would be good, I'm currently awaiting a couple summery shantung and madder ties to arrive to use in these warmer months. As for the formality of the jacket, it is a touch lighter blue than appears in the picture.
>>15362798>it is a touch lighter blue than appears in the picture.No, the colour is fine imo it's just that it would look better with gold buttons, just to give a bit more contrast and also because it's a more of a casual look.
>>15362691I wouldn't go with white socks, they look too much like an athletic ones. Try gray or charcoal ones. But overall great outfit, and everything fits your body great
>>15362809Hmm, I see what you mean. The buttons are dark brown corozo. I have never used brass/gold buttons before (mostly due to the yuppie American connotations which they seem to have here in Finland) but they could work. Shuhei Nishiguchi uses them to great effect.>>15362811I mostly always use cream cotton socks with loafers because they are such an iconic ivy look of the 50's/60's- see e.g. https://streetxsprezza.wordpress.com/2016/09/28/going-ivy-with-white-socks/. That said, I usually only wear white socks with more casual separates, like the linen Natalinos in pic or dark denim or vintage chinos. With grey trousers, for example, I often go with other colours like grey.
>>15362822>The buttons are dark brown corozoAh okay then, they sort of look black unless you look carefully, I guess they are good but not as good as brass buttons ;)
How could you wear white chinos?
>>15362963With a navy, brown, green, grey, blue etc. sports coat or chore coat or a jungle jacket or a field jacket or a safari jacket or a leather jacket... Or a sweater, a sweatshirt etc. For footwear, any brown shoes, black or burgundy loafers, white or blue canvas sneakers... To put it short, goes with absolutely everything.
i bought some shirts used on ebay and they arrived with stains on them that werent pictured in the listing, i should be good to return these, right?
>>15362963if theyre off white, rather easily. pristine white though is a very showy colour, and i think it would be hard to pull off without looking clinical or at the very least quite summery.
>>15362983Only if it said that you could return them, if not, call him a cunt idk
>>15362985>at the very least quite summery.It is summer so that's good, I guess.
>>15361997They are usually acceptable, nice colours and cool designs. For basics I recommend going for Brooks Brothers or others.>>15362691White socks are a bit out of place there, also, brown loafers instead of black loafers would improve the fit.>>15362963You can wear them with anything you want, they are incredibly versatile
>>15361254Haven't tried Quoddy but I have 2 pairs of Rancourts and cannot recommend them enough. Excellent construction and comfortable. Right now Rancourt is doing a big sale on their basic loafers and ranger mocs. They are only charging cost and making and shipping them in bulk. $180 for shoes normally $285. Check out their website. If you're willing to wait a few months the deals are fantastic right now.
>>15363032cringe.white sock with black loafers is /tip/
>>15362176Doesn’t need to be on a social scale. Us few who do have that type of counciousness will do.>>15362688Australia is literally becoming a colony of China. It has no future either. Maybe worse than the US and Europe because once the coming goes rough, a bit portion of the migrants will go back to where they came from, whereas the chinks will definitely stay.Lets hope that that rise in identity does happen. I am not that optimistic either, to be honest, as all attempts thus far have focused solely on reactionary politics, which is inherently flawed because it either tries to emulate a historical condition that is absolutely unapplicable for our age or, even worse and more commonly, creates a simulation of what the past was in order to try and apply it in the future.
>>15361254I have 3 pairs of Rancourt shoes. absolutely love them. the ranger mocs are top tier
>>15363410It's going to be okay, bro
>>15363410>Australia is literally becoming a colony of Chinai suspect youve more will to tell them to fuck off back though
>>15362691Blazer looks awful
>>15363455Shoes and sock pants colour looks good to me but the pants rise looks too Autistic
>>15363459There's literally nothing wrong with the rise, I think that it's you who is autistic
>>15362691Clean your mirror ffs
>>15361314>>15363071>>15363428Rancourt definitely comes highly recommended. What I like about quoddy is the customization. This quoddy sport penny with a vibram sole is what I'm looking at now. >>15362052JM Weston doesn't do beefroll -- it's a no for me
>>15362691That's a nice collar roll. Everything looks good -- I'd probably go with nonwhite socks too even though that used to be the look back in the day. Over all, it seems somewhat too formal to NOT wear a tie, but I guess that depends on where you'd wear this.
Stole this from another thread. Anyone have an ID for this or suggestions for a similar fitted polo (no logo, banded bottom)?
>>15363548Agreed. Wear a tie.
>>15363541Might have a beef roll but it's an ugly shoe. I'd wear it for driving only.
>>15363671It's from massimo dutti
>>15362691This is a good fit and you've really nailed the proportions. However Thinking about it, it's nice but it's very European and potti uomo rather than /tip/. The lines imo are too sleek. /Tip/ should have a relaxed feel in my opinion maybe even bordering on frumpy. Also slacks would benefit from being a bit lighter. All the colours are saturated. I do like the black loafers and White socks.
>>15363724You're more familiar with reverse image searches than I am. Thanks, man.
>>15363671I actually bought that. It's very nice and the L size fits me perfectly (I'm slim fit usually)
>>15362371Does this collar look fine?
>>15363737Not >>15363724. Install 4chanX, it will give you direct links to reverse image search on 4chan, just click on it and you are done.
>>15363843Can't tell because it isn't buttoned, but the slight roll near the end of it tells that it is at least better than the other one.
>>15362371>>15363843>>15363980It's this one I'm pretty sure. Yeah it looks Ok.https://www.ralphlauren.com/men-clothing-button-down-shirts/slim-fit-oxford-shirt/339864.html?dwvar339864_colorname=Blue%2FWhite&cgid=men-clothing-button-down-shirts&webcat=men%2Fclothing%2FCasual%20Shirts%20%20%20Oxfords
>>15363840Good to hear. I've got pretty much the same dimensions.
>>15363880Damn. I'm getting some genuine advice here. This board is certainly better than half of the alternatives.
>>15364029this post is embarrassing. lurk moar summer friend
>>15364029What alternatives do you speak of?
>>15363996The proportions on the collar look off in this pic, 1cm or 2 too small, but yeah, not terrible otherwise. How much are you paying for it?
>>15364044I have a job that requires me to spell correctly.
>>15353502I have that tie and now I’m trying to work out who you are
>>15364288Isn't kamakura an option? Far superior shirts for the same price.
[spoiler]am I prep?[/spoiler]
>>15364344I'd kill him
>>15364288holy shit imagine paying $70 for that mall tier trash
>>15364288Bruv save 20 more dollars and you can get something MTM from proper cloth
>>15364325I'll check it out
>>15364288For about 100 you can get a mtm shirt that is sooo much better, so I wouldnt feel good recommending that shirt for 70. I have a pretty good shirt that costed me 70 euros, but it was made in europe, had good quality linen and the material is more lax when it comes with fittings. At least I don't look like a flying squirrel when I raise my arms with it.
>>15364451>>15364578Do you mean this page? http://mtmshirt.com/designer
>>15364598MTM means made to measure. Several companies offer this mode of service, like propercloth and shirtnomy. The one you posted I have never heard of and looks sort of sketchy. I don't trust places the put the genre of their service on the title.
>>15364598Any mtm shirt company works. Propercloth is my personal fav. I bootleg kamakura shirts with their website bc they are always sold out in my size
>>15364608>>15364640Ok I'm checking those out. I had no idea about those companies.
>>15363722>ugly shoeI disagree there. Penny mocs are great looking shoes. An everyday penny is a TIP go-to. >>15363541Rancourt actually has the same shoe, you may be interested. I like it best in chromexcel + this brick camp sole.
>>15364416>imagine being such a myopic uptight autist prick that you can't buy things because theyres sold in a mall.Fit + Style > Expensive trash
Any thoughts/inspo on something like this? Just picked up a 100% merino wool waistcoat, although it kinda looks like a sleeveless cardigan.
>>15365247The blue OCBD, grey vest, and slacks combo reminds me strongly of the "Midtown Uniform," which is said to be almost ubiquitous in the NY finance industry. It reeks of that new professional-managerial obsession of being "dressed-down" and "laid-back," so if I were you I would avoid it
>>15363996>>15363843Polo Ralph Lauren seems to have plenty different measures for collars, I have 4 shirts from them and only 2 are of the same size.
>>15350474can someone explain the differences between trad/prep/ivy? why even make the distinction? dont get me wrong i am a fan, but seems like all the same shit
>>15365586don't make me horny, you bastard
>>15365589i see you are a guy who is a fan of the fat buttNOW TELL ME ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES YOU FAGGOT !
>>15365595Here, poor spoon feeding little babbyTrad: full cut suitsPrep: pastel frat boysIvy: in-between
>>15365586Quick guide to prep: https://www.mreero.com/journal/how-to-dress-like-a-prepGentleman's Gazzete info on /TIP/: https://pastebin.com/QrNDDG60 (embed)
>>15361135Kohl's and Target
>>15364029Also, another good userscript: >>76585490
>>15365099lol cause that ocbd just looks soo good, I really love that monogram of the polo player. And who can forget the hours of attention put into the construction of the shirt, or the luxurious materials used
>>15365595Learn it your self you degenerate, there are clear distinctions between the styles and if you can see them then you are retarded (probably because all that you can think about is porn and women).
everyone who isn’t an actual dad or who isn’t at least in his late 20s : why do you want to dress like that? (that being TIP)i genuinely want to know, no offense here i think it looks good but i wouldn’t dress like that, so what reason made you cross the line?
>>15365892Because I am a rebel and a bit of a unique person, I guess. Young street wear or whatever and tattoos are so common and basic, like get a personality lol. You are such conformists.
>>15365530Haha no, I don't want to wear it like that. Just the waistcoat and incorporate it into my fit. So instead of sports coat, shirt and sweater. I want to replace the sweater with that. I like something over a shirt as it holds it in place better imo and gives a much more clean aesthetic.
>>15365892because everyone in animal house looked like a chad
>>15363843Had one, pretty good
>>15365892>i think it looks goodYou answered it yourself, retard.
>>15366005>but i wouldn’t dress like thatnot really
>>15365975That brings pain to my eyes, what were you thinking? The proportions look especially bad since one, your torso looks super long and you it makes you look like a Neanderthal and two you look like you have a pretty fat stomach and fat chest. Now, I'm not even going to mention the sneakers nor the fit of the trousers or their colour, you shouldn't be that new to know what's wrong here. S Ö I/10
>>15366013No one gives a fuck if you don't want to dress like this, this is barely relevant to the question. You asked us why we dress like this and for most it's because it looks good, that's the main reason for most non-normies no matter the "sub-culture" (of course it's also to fit in but that person has to like the style first to try and fit in, sub-cultures are usually small and the people in it are considered strange so it doesn't get you any cool kid points, so to say) . Quite honestly you write like a nigger and you probably have the IQ of one as well. Like I said at the start, you mostly answered the question by yourself.
>>15365892I watched a lot of old movies when I was younger because my father thought that Disney/Nickelodeon was pozzed trash. I really wanted to be like Steve McQueen. Actually I still do.
What sort of belt would work well with burgundy loafers?
>>15366214What color pants are you going to wear? Honestly I would just pass on burgundy loafers if you can.
>>15366214A burgundy belt? Fabric belts like the one in the OP in a color that complements the outfit is also a good choice.
>>15366217> Honestly I would just pass on burgundy loafers if you can.Burgundy is one of the most traditional and prettiest color for loafers that there is. It is a stable of any /tip/ wardrobe, more so than any black or brown loafer.
>>15365975at least post a photo tucking that shirt in and wearing a tie and different shoes...
>>15365975>>15361702Terrible outfit quality in this thread
>>15365892I'm mid 30s but my main reason for starting to dress more like this is Instagram, as stupid as that may sound. I never paid much attention to clothing until a couple years ago and my environment neither rewards nor accommodates dressing TIP (I'm surrounded by 95% plebs) but I want to learn about it and appreciate the aesthetics anyway.
>>15366286>wearing a tieWithout a layering piece it just looks strange but I agree that this is a horrible fit.
>>15363541something about it looks really off>>15365090this is kino and actually my next rancourt buy.>>15365892I dressed prep/ivy when I was younger as that's what everyone else where I grew up wore. as I got closer towards graduating high school & being in college. the twee/mod/indie style was very appealing as it was close but different. drifted around in that for awhile but still retained a lot of ivy elements with it. end of college and about a year after I gave streetwear/techwear a try. It's cool in concept and I respect the style but I realized it wasn't me as I'm a 6'3 athletic build white professional. So here I am back to dressing /tip/ because it's what I know and I'm comfortable and look good in it.
>>15365892To be entirely honest, I still feel like I'm in my teens, and the meaning of life is a 2pl8 bench, fresh white sneakers and a running car.Turns out I'm actually in my late 20s with a sma business and need to look serious when I meet with other people in the field of business to be taken seriously, so I figured I'd just take it all the way.
>>15366621They are though, stop being such a faggot
>>15366745Tbh there is nothing wrong with outfit 15361702, 15365975 is another story.
>>15366220Know of any good fabric belts featuring burgundy leather?
I can't decide between this blazer https://www.massimodutti.com/co/hombre/rebajas/americanas/americana-lana-estructura-marino-slim-fit-c1745921p8812233.html?colorId=400&categoryId=1745921and this other onehttps://www.massimodutti.com/co/hombre/rebajas/americanas/americana-cuadros-lino-algod%C3%B3n-slim-fit-c1745921p8890620.html?colorId=400&categoryId=1745921
Thinking about pulling the trigger on a Proper Cloth standard OCBD. Starting with the light blue. Anyone with experience care to share?
>>15366859Measure your best fitting shirt and base the measurements off that
>>15366854>slim fitAnon, I...
>>15366883Anything regular sized looks weird on me, I have a fucked up body.
>>15366909Slim fit just makes every part of the jacket slim so it has little tight arm holes to make skinny spaghetti arms look as though they fill a jacket out. Nothing really much to do with your body apart from being thin. You'd be better with a regular fit that is your right chest size but having it taper on the waist and on the arms.
>>15366854La azul de lino-algodón tiene buena pinta
>>15366916Man this shit can become complicated. I guess I'll eventually try a regular sized M and compare that fit to this, when actual physical stores open up.>>15366917pero tal vez demasiado azul clara :/
>>15366854Darker one is way more versatile
>>15366854I like the blue one, but you definitely need to check these pieces on person. The pics on their website is not always consistent with the pieces.The fabric sort of looks like denim, so beware. Don't think I would buy.
>>15366981The fabric is listed in the description, as it always is... They're 100% wool.
>>15366883Jackets being slim is actually more trad than the wide suits of the 50s through 90s, as we discussed last thread, but...>>15366916This point is valid. The proportions of slim fit jackets are often messed up, which is another factor to encourage you to try this on. Take pictures and send them here, we won't be mean, probably.
>>15366989Yeah, but one day I went to MD check out a sweater someone recommended here and I saw some which the wool was sort of crap, unlike a piece that I own and the one he probably recommended. (It was a green sweater, probably one of you spanish guys)
>>15366990I like jackets that fit and are snug on me but not slim fit. Slim fit is just weird. It's really like a childs fit. Or like getting a regular jacket 2 sizes down. I'm a 44" chest and a regular jacket of that size fits just right on it. Now if I get a 44" slim fit, it's just like a 40" or even less and the arms are like thin tubes so the they're like tight gloves around my arms. Just awful. Probably the worse is under the arms how tight they are. I suppose a real "sim fit" jacket would tailor to your body shape but with more material around the arms but off the rack slim fit they just get a regular jacket and take it in all over so I think it only works if you're really skinny.
>>15366997I only checked the site fast, I thought they were like $500 each. It's Colombian? So they're about $100 US each? I wouldn't bank on it being high quality at that price but then again, maybe that price in Columbia is like $500 in the US
>>15367011>Probably the worse is under the arms how tight they areOne of the things that trigger me the most on jackets and shirts is them having a low armhole. The tighter they are, the better mobility you have, in my experience. It also just looks ugly. But yeah, RTW fits are awful in general, just join the bespoke gang.>>15367025I didn't even notice the price or the currency, I thought it was Euro. I didn't even know MD existed in Colombia or Latin America in general. These go for €100-200, and is pretty much the premium line of Zara, so that can give you a notion to its quality...MD has good inspo when it is not overly slimshit, at least.
>>15366981>>15366990>>15366997Definitely, with these clever Spanish retailers you have to see the clothes in person because often they look a lot different.>>15367011Yeah, even for me they are very tight under the arms, but they cover my shoulders and arms well (not super tightly).>>15367025They're about $135. So not, the quality is probably great and it really is kinda fast fashion at the end of the day (hit or miss, you have to be selective).
>>15367050I mean the quality is probably not great and hit or miss
>>15367050>They're about $135. So not, the quality is probably great and it really is kinda fast fashion at the end of the day (hit or miss, you have to be selective).I buy that kind of stuff used for $10 or so. Thrift squad right here.
>>15366214Burgundy, but if not then a dark brown that is close in shade. Not black.
>>15367665Do you think this might work?
>>15367710I like that kind of belt. It's very nice that no matter how much weight you lose it always fits. Same with d ring belts
>>15367712You need to cut them or you will have a flap looping all the way towards you back in the beltloops. Personally I find those leather ones too extravagant, and I consider myself pretty extravagant myself, with bright colors, pocket squares, patterned socks and the like, so there is that.
Best penny loafer brand in the 300-400USD range? I'm not looking for any higher than 400
>>15367712This, no need to make extra holes. They are also quite cool, much better than just a plain Brown belt
>>15368013All their styles are hideous boomer trash
>>15367894Carlos Santos, Löf and Tung, Cavour, Sportsmen Clothing, Sons of Henrey, Grant Stone.
>>15367710w2c braided belts?Hoping to find one that's 1 1/4 inch wide, with a brass, rounded buckle (as opposed to rectangular)
>>15368275Anderson's is good
>>15367894Jay Butler has nice loafers for $200
>>15368501Basic summer outfit, linen shirt, linen trousers, loafers.
Lads, I'm thinking about having a nylon tote bag made to order and I can't decide on a color. Dark olive seems like a favourite since it shouldn't show dirt that much. The material is decidedly not /tip/, sure, but it's made by mentally handicapped people, which is nice. What do you think?
>>15368561philantropism is pretty /tip/, but a nylon tote bag sounds horrible
>>15368565I'll ask whether they can make the bottom of the bag in a different color. The plain ones look like my grandma's shopping bags desu
>>15368558How are the pants or shirt baggy? They are quite fitted and the trousers are tapered to a neat 21cm leg opening. Linen trousers for summer are not supposed to be tight, that would defeat their purpose
What’s the most expensive thing you ruined? I just fucked up my favourite tie. Kill me
>>15368558Is this bait?
>>15367710Yes.That brown has some red in it and the distance between the belt and shoes is enough that the exact shade isn't so important. It will be fine.
>>15368593I haven't ruined any piece of clothing to the point where I can't wear it but here's my short, sort of boring story. It was pretty chilly August day and I decided to go fishing to the closest river which wasn't too far off, it was only like a twenty minute walk. Anyway, I wore my Barbour quilted jacket, some cords and jumper, so a bit casual but perfect for the occasion. I got my fishing equipment and headed off but because I didn't have any box to put my hook and such I simply put them into my pocket, I would regret this later on. I was just walking through town with people greeting me and such, some children even asked where I was going and what I was fishing for. Everything seemed fine. After a nice walk through the countryside I finally got to the river, I put my rod together and had it underneath my arm with the back on the floor so it could stay up. With the line in my left hand I went to get my hook and I realised that the hook somehow got stuck in the pocket, once that realisation hit me I wanted to die. For the next 15 minutes I was trying to get the hook out of my fuxking pocket and thank God no one walked past because I was pretty pissed and swearing like a drunkard. In the end, my day was ruined and I got a small hole in my pocket. Feels bad man
>>15368550Quite honestly, compared to your last fit this is a bit of a disappointment, especially with the shirt.
>>15368933Thanks for the comment, could you elaborate? I really like the shirt, it is a wide stripe linen that has a great feel to it, the fit is short and boxy which gives it a vintage-y feel and the camp collar adds to that. I don't like the visible logo that much though.
>>15369006not him, but its very 'boy in the striped pajamas'
>>15369006Alright but I will just say that I do like the stripes and colours of the shirt, they're pleasing to the eye and obviously work very well with eachother, anyway, the reason why I don't like the shirt is for one, the short sleeves, short sleeves look good on polos but on button downs/dress shirts it just looks strange, it's one of those things which I just can't explain, it doesn't even necessarily mess up proportions of your body but it's still not necessarily advantageous.Also, you could tuck the shirt but that's just my taste, I guess. I will say this about it, you did get the proportions right, unlike that guy who posted a couple of threads ago with the untucked shirt which made him look like a Neanderthal simply because his legs looked very short.I don't think that the trousers really work well with the shirt, don't get me wrong, it doesn't look bad but the brownish grey trousers and the light blue creates a bit of an unsightly contrast, I think that if they were more of a sand colour that would look a lot better and it would work with the season.So yeah, it's not bad, in fact, like I mentioned previously for your other fit, you'll probably get compliments instead of complaints but it's just not my style, it's a bit too casual for me.
>>15361254was not happy with quoddy. bought some rancourts on their wholesale deal and will see
>>15369060this couldve been said in 50 words or less
>>15369143It takes around a minute to read, I think that you'll be fine.
>>15369060Thanks for the detailed comment. I previously did not care much for short sleeved shirts but they have won me over, especially the boxier cuban collar shirts and hawaiian shirts which have a very nice 50's vibe to them. Regarding tucking the shirt, I don't think that's really possible with how short the hem of the shirt is – if the shirt were longer, I would tuck it, no question.Hadn't thought about the colours but I see what you mean. The trousers are actually a sand-ish brown with a hint of olive. I have a pair of cream trousers I could try instead with the same shirt.I find more formal summer dressing to be difficult; the problem imo is that I don't really like to wear jackets when it's hot, and shirt + trouser combos get stale fast. I find these more casual fits to be a bit more interesting, especially when mixing up with even more casual vintage inspired trousers like army fatigues, gurkhas etc. I'm awaiting a new brown linen blazer that will hopefully make dressing up a bit easier, though.
>>15368064If you don't like Rancourt's trad shoes, perhaps this thread –and Penny Loafers generally – aren't for you.
>>15368550>again with the white socks :|
>>15369304I agree with him, though. Rancourt loafers are quite hideous, they have bad proportions, the upper is too far up the foot and the vamp is also too high on them. I don't like beefrolls, and their loafers which don't have them are horribly stitched and the leather patina in most of their shoes looks quite artificial. For the price, I would go with Meermin all day, although I don't know if they make loafers with the beefrolls.
>>15369006The collar is too small. Vintage camp collars are much more pointed and in proportion. The fit of the shirt doesn't look at all boxy to me, it looks quite fitted and slim, making it look out of proportion with your trousers.IMO it would look better tucked in, and short sleeves almost always look worse than rolled up long sleeves.Another piece of personal critique is the watch. It looks too big. You have classic taste with your wardrobe, but that ben 10 size watch looks like something a 21 yo real estate agent in a cheap suit would wearI actually like the white/cream socks though. I love that they're coming back in style (at least among the informed). ignore the brainlets.