Is shoplifting from home depot or lowes morally wrong?
>>2613634Yes, you are not stealing from "the man"."The man" will just pass that cost on customers, or close down the shop once it's no longer profitable.As far as Krystal here, be thankful someone is willing to hire mentally challenged.
>>2613636That would be terrible if home depot closed down and the actual independent trade stores could exist again
>>2613638Yeah, we have one of those in town. They charge a ton for anything, so I'll go 20 miles to the closest HD unless I really can't wait or only want to interact with whites.
>>2613638Anon, small hardware stores died because they had 1/10 of selection, for 2x the price and manned by an old senile grumpy fuck.>t. Small townerWe do still have a grump fuck auto and grumpy fuck lumber.The lumber guy is based, 3/4 the HD price, cuts to size, has quick loaders. Doing quite well.Car part one just doesn't have shit in stock and wants to charge you for shipping it to him, might as well use amazon. No idea how he's still profitable.
>>2613636What if I'm a misanthropist?
>>2613634I used to but after COVID I saw how little profit margins places like grocery stores and shit were making and I didn't steal anymore.
>>2613677I would never shoplift from an independently ran store.
>>2613678You know that home depot makes less profits and that's how they're around, right anon? Lowes has even better prices most of the time. Fuck driving 40 minutes everywhere to potentially save a few dollars, or in reality pay more time and money and annoyed it's not in stock. I've tried independence stores and they have the same stock from ACE in the 90s at 90s prices or 300% for some reason, and it's missing a key component.
>>2613634I worked at a home depot and overheard the manager talking about how much shrink (theft) occurred in the last year. Was over 200K and all written off, so they literally don't lose money when you steal.
>>2613634as far as giant chains go they're pretty based, so I'd say yes
>>2613679
>>2613679what?
>>2613682>all written off, so they literally don't lose money when you stealthat's not how it works
>>2613634It's a grey area like all ethics. Following the NAP, yes since all theft is an act of aggression. To anti globalist no since major chain stores allow for community destruction by turning places into econ zones. To utilitarian yes since these large stores are both convenient resupple points and cheaper due to macro economics. Most religions say yes bar any stipulations like the owner being the wrong religion or heretical. Ask yourself what ethical philosophy do you subscribe to and what outcomes you wish to see for yourself, those around you, and humans as a whole.
>>2613714Wrong
Small fittings or loose hardware that's normally in packs? Go for it, they won't repack them, just trash them. Putting couplers on the ends of all your pvc and sneaking them in plain sight past cashiers? They train them for that so if you succeed, it's arguably on them.
Small stores are useful for small purchases if you dont want to drive. Driving costs gas, car tear and wear and time which is also worth money. The math says the small local expensive store is sometimes better.
>>2613636Yeah weep for the jew owned company that gained 50 billion in market share while the memeflu shutdowns were mandated for everyone except them.
>>2613753Non DIYer detected
>>2613634I paid for 8 bags of dirt and took 9 once because I realised one I put in my car was torn and I didn't feel like taking it out so I just took another that wasn't torn.
>>2613682>Was over 200K and all written off, so they literally don't lose money when you steal.Writing something off pretty much literally means you lost money/value.
>>2613851the meme amongst lefty redditards is that these corporate owned stores have some kind of magical insurance that pays out every time someone robs them or steals from them, so it's morally and socially just fine
>>2613634>shopliftingis>morally wrongVery simple.
>>2613939Not only that, when any real world insurance does cover some of their losses but the cost goes up, or they have to pay 100% out of pocket or just recoup deductibles and other related costs through the only source of income a functional business has- sales revenues- those same thieving dirt as get to crank up the moral indignation about how "greedy" those corporations are, even though greed is a human trait and "corporations aren't people".Then when the crime victims say fuck it, we're shutting down operations in your lawless "progressive" shithole so you can't keep encouraging and defending this, the moralizing over how this "heartless" action harms the "community" (and especially people of color) goes into levels of decietful moral posturing that would make a disgraced televangelist blush.
>>2613634Not if they make me do self checkout.
isn't it kinda well known that big box stores have terrible prices on actual building materials? like wood and metal stock? everyone always says to buy from shops that are dedicated to those materials because HD/lowes rip you off on low quality materials.everyone's saying the margins are low but i don't understand how massive chains can't undercut local suppliers in those markets.
>>2613634What would you need to shoplift that you can't just get from peoples houses and gardens?
>>2613939the "meme" is actually that the loss from theft is built in to the business plan, so that prices are higher to begin with to cover the loss they predict to come from theft. so if you don't want to hurt a poor billionaire's feelings, just steal early in the financial quarter so that your theft is most likely one of the first and is part of the quantity of thefts predicted and covered by price hikes
>>2613634Unless you want it to be like your liquor store where you order from behind two inches of bulletproof glass, pay for your shit tyrone
>>2613682it's called shrink because that's what it dies to their profits
Stealing at all is morally wrong. Do you want to live in a community full of thieves? Full of people with no self control or respect?
>>2614011Many stores actually adjust prices from location to location for this reason.Hop on an auto parts website belonging to a big chain, AutoZone, O'Reilly's, that shit.Look for an item, there's no price, gotta put in your zip code and select a store.Pick a store close to you, then try a store in the warzone, the one nearest to the streets you're frightened of.Prices vary from region to region sure, but why do they vary by over 10% when they're only 10 minutes away from each other? Tyrone and his boys are reason #1.
>>2614136It's precisely BECAUSE I have self-control and respect that I steal from big box stores, anon
>>2613634i NEED WEBM OF HER
>>2614136>Do you want to live in a community full of thieves?no>Full of people with no self control or respect?no. wat do?
>>2613636>"The man" will just pass that cost on customersand i'll just keep stealing. round and round we go
>>2613638Home Depot is objectively superior though.
>>2613682>be corpo>make $100>technically owe the tax man $35>spend $100 on merchandise>$100 becomes cost and thus not taxed>owe the tax man $0>jogger steals merchandise>write down you lost the $100 worth of merchandise so the account matches reality>$100 magically reappears from the ethereal realm of magic and angels, floats down from the sky and into your walletLeftoids, everyone.
>>2613636I still would.
>>2613634>>2613679>>2613682>>2613851My mom worked part time at Lowes from 2018-2020 and she couldnt believe how much stuff blacks and mostly mexicans would steal (this was in chicago). They would either walk right out with stuff they didnt pay for, or bring back equipment two weeks later after it had been clearly used on a job site saying it didnt work. Sometimes they would find items returned where the box itself was new but the item inside was a broken version they swapped out with the new one.Eventually she quit because loss prevention kept penalizing her for calling out theives walking out without paying.
>>2613679home depot profited $17,100,000,000 in 2022.
>>2614161yes, but the initial price in both regions is a reflection of a predictive insurance algorithm using last quarter/year's data, which is of course different per area. the point is that the earlier you steal, the more likely your theft was already covered by initial price hikes set at the beginning of the year/quarter and thus the company truly did NOT lose any money since they predicted this and covered for it.this is also assuming there will be more theft than their model predicts, since in any other case you can steal at any time and it will be covered by their initial price-setting.tl;dr it literally isn't a loss for the company, depending on if your theft fell within their predictions
>>2614346I bet you return the cart too, don't you sissy boy
>>2614369>>>thus the company truly did NOT lose any money since they predicted this and covered for it.>be me, save up 10K to cover for unexpected expenses/emergencies>engine blows in my car and costs me 10K to fix>actually it's free because I accounted for something like this happeningIt's like troll physics, but for finances.
>>2614369>the company truly did NOT lose any money since they predicted this and covered for it.It's very simple: had the theft not occurred, would they have made *more* money?Of course they would have.The theft cost them that revenue, on top of the cost incurred in trying to anticipate theft and not lose any more money than they do, via paying the extra cost of insurance premiums and loss prevention procedures and personnel.
>>2614398lefties aren't interested in having an intellectually honest conversation about this kind of stuff; if we're honest about crime policies and statistics then we'll quickly arrive at a solution of systematically exterminating a certain demographic group in their voter base.
Semi-related, I used to work at Tractor Supply and pretty much every day I'd find something left in a buggy
>>2614377that's just common courtesy
>>2613980The short answer is volume combined with strategic pricing/advertisement.Those big stores purchase in bulk (i.e., cheaper) and spread it across all the chain stores.Then they use loss leaders to bait you into buying the marked up items. Now multiply this across all the stores across the nation/market.A small family owned store just simply can't compete with that combo
>>2613710The intrinsic cost of that slave labour garbage is like 1/10 of the retail price. When the company pays for it because their garbage was destroyed or stolen, it's a rounding error. I imported shit from China myself once, paid 20$ a piece for a machine, the retail price of the same device from a local company was 220$, same quality.
>>2614767>A small family owned store just simply can't compete with that comboCompletely wrong and my favorite local hardware store, Wally's in Sumter, SC is proof. Wally many years ago welcomed a Walmart behind him and a Lowes across the street when interviewed by the town paper. He knew they would bring thousands of cars right past his front door and he was right. I've shopped there since 1985.His small store sells quality service. He has more staff on the floor than the Lowes and they greet each customer. His parking lot is full and he stocks based on actual knowledge and experience (like parts to repair mobile homes which are not the same dimensions as many items designed for conventional houses). His bolt and nut room is where every mechanic goes for hardware.He retired but the store is still run the same way with the same staff. Old small stores were greedy cunts with very limited stock and ripoff prices. They needed to die so they did.
>is it ok to steal?No. STFU and GTFO Jamal.
>>2613722Prince didn't die, he's living as his sister now
>>2614844Who's Prince
>>2614849The artist formerly known as Prince
>>2614828Hey, have you ever tried the chili dogs at Murray's Donuts on Bultman? They're pretty great and they were only like $1.50 the last time I went
>>2613636*ekhm*not my problem
>>2613638Their return policies were horrible.
>>2614824>Intrinsic costThere is no "intrinsic" cost to anything, did you perhaps mean the "cost of goods sold"?
4chan econ class is funAs for Crystal, I’m 80% sure I would offer to buy her a one way flight to Liberia if I saw that hat. And offer to drive her to the airport. Business class on Spirit Airlines of course.
>>2613634No. Everybody should. And, they write it off as shrinkage. Just don't steal huge things that make you look really stupid.
>>2613634>hat>America was never greatIs corporate aware of this and do they approve? If you then it's fine to steal from partisan corporations
>>2613636How would they even pass that cost down to customers?
>>2613796Why stop there? why not 10
are the prices when you buy shit online and have them shipped to you the same as the in-store price typically? that's the only place i can see them competing over smaller shops.larger amount of sales with smaller margins have always been big box's game.
>>2616269>There is no "intrinsic" cost to anything, did you perhaps mean the "cost of goods sold"?The cost of labour and materials to make the product. It costs 1$ to make it by slaves in china, it's sold for 20$ to fat 1st world people.If you have to write off the stolen Chinese trash, to you as a business it costs 1$ not the retail price of 20$.
>>2613634Cute enough. Would bang.
Wasting money is immoral.Therefore it is your moral imperative to not pay for shit.
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>>2616494High, retail manager anon here. Shrinked goods are totalled by retail price, not what we bought them for.What youre forgetting, is that the markup accounts for everything between the point at which we bought it, to the point at which its on the shelf.Yes, we bought it for 1$ from china. We then spent 19$ transporting it, storing it, and eventually stocking it.
>>2613634Kind of cute, would bang
they have those anti theft devices in almost every product here in Atlantic Canada and we don't even have that high a bigger ratio.we have more parents than bangladesh tho. my fiance clips leaves from plants and propagates them at home and ill throw a few extra washers or screws in a bag when I need to buy some that I don't have in my stockpile.the cops around here have been blasting shoplifters on twitter, meanwhile, we have poos raping uni girls that never gets reported.
>>2616696obligatory
>>2613636>big boxstote is just waiting to incur a cost before passing it down instead of just passing down every cost and more preemptively
>>2614136This. Fuck thieves. Fry em. Boil em. Put em in a stew.
>>2613634Stealing is for the melanin enriched. The white trash kludges shit together for free.
>>2614136No but I also don't want to live in a community with Home Depot
>>2613682>i wrote a check>therefore i didn't spend any money
>>2613634I don't know about Lowe's or home Depot, but it is always morally right to steal from Menards. Fuck John Menard and that entire company.
>>2613648>Car part one just doesn't have shit in stock and wants to charge you for shipping it to him, might as well use amazon. No idea how he's still profitable.maybe if 4/5 of north americans werent jewed out of a decent job, then we could afford to purchase from a local buisnessman.
>>2613939I was under the impression that when something of XX amount is stolen or damaged, they can minus that XX amount from the taxes they have to pay the government at the end of the year.
>>2613753>>2613789local battery refurb shop just shut down along with many other small time buisnesses in my up and coming neighborhood
so you manifest everything with your subcouscience mind, through repedetive actions and thoughts,if you stealyou are telling your subcounscience you are poor lol. you will continue to be poort hypnotist
>>2617003Not the full retail amount. Also doesn't cover the associated costs of ordering, receiving, stocking, inventory-ing, and all the other costs related to having a product on the shelf for some entitled fucktard to steal. You know, all the costs that are built into the retail markup that entitled fucktards point to as justification for being theives.Insurance doesn't pay out at retail either, so even when a claim is covered the business loses money over what they would have made had the retail sale been possible.
>>2613978Yep. Any place that wants me to ring up and bag my shit then I'll be using my 'employee discount' and walk out the door with a full cart of free shit.
>>2614394>"save up">by raising prices without any other justification like inflation, only a predictive model that some fresh accounting grad made in pythonit was free/unjustified money to begin with, especially if the predictions over-estimate the number of thefts>>2614398you are insane if you don't think the cost of the loss prevention team's work isn't built into all of this price raising. there is never any point at which they will willingly allow anything to take from net profit>raise prices without producing more value to consumernow THIS is troll physics
>>2617104>you are insane if you don't think the cost of the loss prevention team's work isn't built into all of this price raising. You mean the retail price that isn't generated when the merchandise is stolen and doesn't sell?>there is never any point at which they will willingly allow anything to take from net profitSo your contention is that they should "willingly allow" thieves to steal the merchandise?Let me guess, you think offering merchandise that people are free to not buy is "greedy" because the price generates a profit, but stealing that merchandise is morally justified and not "greedy".
>>2617128no, my contention is always and has always been this:>raise prices without producing more value to consumerloss prevention isn't even inherently a bad thing, but i don't trust corporate MBAs (and you are helpless if you do) to not abuse their ability to set prices. kroger did this recently with the scapegoat of "inflation" (which was in truth a negligible percent of the cost increase) and as a result i no longer have faith that price raises in other consumer goods have legitimate reasoning. we can suppose all day that a pair of pliers is now $23 instead of $16 due to overseas shipping increases, loss prevention increases, etc., but more than likely a large part of that increase is attempting to sneak profit in when other costs can be blamed. and you won't always be given a breakdown of those increases (if ever)you can no longer trust that price increases have reasons legitimate to a consumer, so the "trust in the system" of loss prevention, supply/demand, etc. is gone. this is why it won't matter if jamal steals those pliers, because i'm going to be paying $30 for them next year either way. either loss prevention/shipping/etc. is going to truly require such an increase, or the pricing department will find a scapegoat to justify it. corporations have long been happy to abuse trust, so the lesson seems to be you're a fool to not abuse the system yourself in any way possible.
>>2617128also the price increases are on all products my man, not just the 1% that got stolen and thus didn't sell. they still get the associated profit, this isn't a calculation you do per item
>>2617146Who the fuck are you to say what profit margin is "legitimate"?
>>2617071yup. fuck home depot. lets run them out of buisness and maybe the next guy to set up shop will be willing to use his dog and gun to protect his profit margin
>>2617146>kroger did this recently with the scapegoat of "inflation" (which was in truth a negligible percent of the cost increase) and as a result i no longer have faith that price raises in other consumer goods have legitimate reasoning.sooo what exactly did kroger do? i didnt see anything on it except some youtube video with some guy making 'soi boi' face
>bought 2 potted plants, a pair of gloves and a 2 meter flat bar>cashier didn't notice the flat bar laying on the bottom of the cart >it even had the bright white barcode facing up whats morally wrong is them selling dogshit steel imported from china fuck em
>>2617181>whats morally wrong is them selling dogshit steel imported from china"no one ever talked about politics in the 90s, it was great!" - boomers, gen Xers
>>2617152the consumer, who decides with his dollar (or theft). these babies don't get to do whatever they want without consequence like it's a game lmao
>>2617177https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/losangeles/news/retail-profiteering-lowes-amazon-target-accountable/they raised prices in markets with inelastic demand (i.e. goods needed to live) at a time of economic downturn, blaming inflation while the true reason was to increase profits. inflation had barely touched their bottom line, they just wanted more gibmedats
>>2617237Hi, this is called "the price that the market will bear" and the concept in a free market economy is that hopefully if their price is set too high, then someone else will undercut them in order to profit even more.Kroger's brand identity is that of an "avocado store"; they're not a lowest possible price grocery store for poor people. If that's what you're looking for, then give Aldi's, Save-a-Lot, or maybe Walmart a try.If you have mormons around, then try out one of their nonprofit co-op grocery stores.
>>2617237>at a time of economic downturnalso, while it was an economic downturn, it has also been a time where the poorer demographics in the country had an unprecedented amount of spending money from all those funemployment covid checks. It turns out that printing out money and giving it to poor people winds up with you seeing huge price increases on all kinds of goods and services.
>>2617335>It turns out that printing out money and giving it to poor people winds up with you seeing huge price increases on all kinds of goods and services.wasnt massively more 'printed money' transfered to wealthy corporations?
>>2617342Don’t forget all the gov’t agencies and schools that got shit tons of money for sitting at home and hanging $7,000 pieces of plexiglass that probably cost $40 for a regular consumer.
>>2613634I got this from Harbor Freight for a steal
>>2617342sure, but look at fast food places and doordash etc revenues once the pandemic checks started going around. Not only did big companies get fat checks, but nearly 100% of the money given to poor and average people "trickled up" to these kinds of companies too.What I'm getting at is that these companies didn't exactly just raise prices for no reason "when people could afford it the least".... Their business model changed to getting more money for 'premium' products at premium prices from customers who can afford it. Kroger used to be a more low-end or average grocery store whose main business was catered to average joes. Now they're a semi-premium grocery store with ridiculous prices catering to middle class people who have money to blow. The middle class has gotten smaller, so it's not a surprise that their prices have increased in order to cope with falling sales. (basic foods are usually considered to be a commodity with inelastic demand, but it's not true in a categorical way; these stores have shifted their target demographic)
>>2614136>Do you want to live in a community full of thieves?i already do. home depot, lowes, all the major big box retailers... all steal from our communities. they roll in, cut their prices and operate at a loss in the region until they put honest businesses out of business, then jack the prices back up higher to make everyone hurt now that there are no alternatives. they siphon all the money from our local economies into their corporate accounts and then offshore to their tax havens so they don't even have to contribute on a national level. they use this money to buy politicians to cut their tax liability even into the negative to suck money from our governments and push for more social support programs for their impoverished workers... forcing states to essentially partially pay their workers' wages.they're setting the tone here, not me. thieving things from thieves, no ethical quandry here.
>>2617430>no ethical quandry here.Get off reddit, go outside and touch grass, then take a long look at yourself and stop being such a degenerate.
>>2617437you deny that these massive corporations do these (extremely well-documented) things intentionally to siphon the maximum amount of money out of communities? why do you hate american business so much? we don't need your gross global homogeneity.
>>2617430 When you steal things, prices go up for the white people in your community. Your own peoples behavior and lack of moral values is the reason why your community is a disgusting shithole.Hopefully, one day we can put you all on a boat and ship you right back to where you came from.
>>2617442prices go up for everyone anyway, don't pretend there's a direct correlation. you voted with your wallet and shut down all their competition and offered them total control over your local economy. they'll use that control now, they'll raise prices forever and bleed you for everything you have, they don't need an excuse. it's their entire purpose for existing.
>>2617444You're speaking as though it is a given that smaller businesses enjoy making less money and sell their products for lower prices (or at least that HD/Lowes charge higher prices than the small businesses would have if they still existed)I don't agree with that idea, and I doubt you can point to data that shows it.You can keep making excuses for your degeneracy, but at the end of the day there are plenty of people who can look themselves in the mirror with self respect, and then there's you--- a hateful, greedy, misanthrope who knows damn well that you have no moral values or value to the greater human community. You're less than a person.
>>2617447>You're less than a person.wow, rich coming from the guy eager for massive non-human corporate entities to destroy his country's way of life and strip the world of any valuesure, sure, the guy who wants thriving local economies of people who respect each other is the greedy misanthrope, not the soul suckers in an office meeting room plotting how to best exploit your loved ones most brutally.
>>2617457You're trying to cook up a whole lot of strawman there, but you're really missing the mark.Everyone faces adversity in life. We're surrounded by social and economic circumstances that suck. While you can't control the way that you found the world, you can try to control your own actions and responses to it. Some people in your community are honest, hardworking people who do the best they can to take care of their families. And then there's you--- the shitbag criminal degenerate who steals from others and then doesn't even have enough of a spine and take responsibility for his own actions.>other people MADE me steal!You're disgusting. And so is the culture which normalizes and encourages your degeneracy. You're sick and your culture is a disease.
>>2617469furthermore, when you try to use whataboutism to justify your crimes, its an insult to all the people out there who work hard and honestly to get by. Be real: did you NEED to steal in order to survive? Or did you just do it for more decadent consoomer experiences? Because it seemed easier than becoming more skilled, harder working, or more clever?Other people face harder circumstances than you ever have in your life, and yet most of them don't start stealing and becoming parasites in their own communities. It's because they're better than you. Morally, socially, and in terms of absolute human worth.You are worthless human garbage.
>>2617469>the shitbag criminal degenerate who steals from othersno. home depot is not a person, you fucking idiot. companies are not people. brands are not your friends, you do not have a "relationship" with an orange square and a special font. home depot is not a part of my community on any level, from local to national.>doesn't even have enough of a spine and take responsibility for his own actionsi know exactly what my actions are and i came here to state them clearly: i do this, and it is 100% justifiable. do you have reading issues?>your culture is a diseaseagain, wow, from the guy who supports the decidedly non-human entity that consumes and destroys human lives as one of its primary functions, and thinks they make good community members. lmao>Because it seemed easierno. because it's right to steal from the thieves that killed all the local businesses, is gutting the economy to suck its last vestiges of life out of it, and bought the politicians to ensure nobody stops them.>and yet most of them don't start stealing and becoming parasites in their own communitiesparasites? lmao. try immune response. again, home depot is not my "community", nor is it yours. they have tricked you very very well i see. distorted your view of what a person is and who a friend is. now you think a color and a font is a friend in your community, and that their corporate pillaging of your home is just and fair.you're a great asset to them, defending them and their economic piracy for completely free. all they had to do was manipulate your weak-ass social instincts to make you want to defend their global multi-national corporation as a member of your personal tribe. fucking pathetic. literal monkeys know better.
>>2617486>it's not a person!Corporations are made of people, numbnuts. It's a social and paperwork construct. You keep saying that "they" aren't people, but you also say that "they" steal and that "they" have tricked me. How could they steal if they don't exist?I hope that you starve to death.You're a bad person. You steal from other people, and you blame others for your actions. You make excuses for why you have no values, because you're not enough of a man. You're harmful to the other people around you, and you don't belong in our society.Are you white?
>>2617498>Corporations are made of people, numbnuts.that doesn't make a corporation a person any more than a brick is a house. and how many home depot corporate officers and board members are you friends with in your local community? you think the rank and file employees in your local home depot are home depot itself? that if instead there were a bunch of local hardware and home improvement stores, that those people would not simply be working there instead of home depot? the corporation is the system of rules it operates under. those rules are designed for maximum exploitation and manipulation of vulnerable idiots like you. you're food to them and you love it.>You're a bad personeven if this were true, i'd rather be a person than whatever home depot apparently turned you into.>You steal from other peoplenot people. non-human parasitic cancers>You make excusesi justify my actions>for why you have no valuesbased on my contempt for parasitic exploitative entities>because you're not enough of a mansays the guy gleefully tearing down the idea of local community, economy, family- all in the name of your globohomo corporate-owned world fetishism that an orange square and a million-dollar font file tricked you into>You're harmful to the other people around youonly because you consider abstract organizational entities with profit-over-all mandates as 'people' for some reason>and you don't belong in our societyhere we go. sure, i agree with this. because in 'your' society, you are a pathetic slave to billion dollar non-human masters that you feed your friends and families to because you have some corporate propaganda whispering in your ear that they deserve it>Are you white?lmao. sure am bud. let me guess, being "properly white" means letting the global billionaires come in and put their heel to your neck and thanking them for their time like a good boy. you're fucking pathetic. you've sold out your community, your family, your friends, and your dignity.
>>2617430This post is based. Fuck corporate leeches.
>>2617510By the power vested in me by the universe, I hereby formally revoke your status as a white person.You're not a man, you're less than a human being, and you don't belong in our nation.No amount of lies or excuses is going to wash away the fact that you have to hide what you are to your family and friends.You know that if they found out that you were a filthy thief, then they wouldn't trust you to be in their homes or around their families.You're garbage. Literal trash with arms, legs and a mouth. Absolutely disgusting.
>>2617570>By the power vested in me by the universeyou have to be a human being to assert your will on the universe bud. you're no longer one. a self-checkout machine might as well be asserting me to be a person of poor character for all i care. humans live in healthy societies. you want to destroy yours, and worse, you want to destroy everyone else's. you're a cancer that will end the rest of us who have souls.>that you have to hidethe fuck i do. they're on board. you have this image of a person who is stealing from these entities and is ashamed of it. i'm not. i'm proud of it. i'm doing what's right, and you're aiding the enemy. absolutely pathetic. are your parents this servile? where did you learn it?>Absolutely disgustingi am actually thoroughly pleased that a corporate propagandist and anti-social turncoat of an NPC thinks this of me. please express more outrage at my actions that offend your owners.
>>2613638What makes you think they will have an easier time to stay profitable when people steal from them? Do you realise that what you are asking is for hard working people to put their entire life savings into inventory, only to leave them out for anyone to just come and take?I like the idea of smaller, more community-oriented businesses, but independent shops don't have anything to fall back on when they get robbed dry. Big box stores on the other hand can open and close branches in different locations as demographics change.
>>2614828I've never wanted to visit a place just to see a hardware store, but this sounds very nice.
>>2613939>>2613959The funny thing is that insurance pretty much the perfect communist society. It's literally "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". Everyone chips in a little as a premium so that if one business gets fucked it doesn't have to bear the whole burden.Of course apparently neither Marx nor any of the modern leftists are capable of thinking one step further, what if everyone gets fucked at the same time?
>>2613682>>2613735>>2613753>>2613796>>2614168>>2614369>>2614824>>2616355>>2616458>>2616494>>2616818>>2616981>>2617003>>2617104>>2617146>>2617430>>2617437>>2617440>>2617444>>2617457>>2617486>>2617510>>2617561>>2617577Enjoy having mud and cow shit as the only building materials left when the last Home Depot branch has become unprofitable.
>>2617773waddle and daub would be better than cardboard
>>2617775Sure, but wiring, hardware, appliances, finished floors, etc. are kind of important for quality of life.I don't mind living in a nicely finished daub house, I just don't want to live in a society that has no manufactured goods at all.
>>2617335if they want to increase prices and lose 50% of their customer base, that's fine by me. it's being a lying nigger and pretending it had anything to do with inflation that's disgusting. if they had just raised prices without lying, people would largely be happy to abandon them like the "premium" grocery store they are. but that lie about inflation tricked some non-negligible amount of people into believing that they were getting the lowest prices the market would bear. microecon-101 is all fine and well (in a world with infinite resources that can support infinite growth but we won't touch that for now) but when you use jewry to manipulate the "price the market will bear", you've stepped outside the cute little freshman model into unadulterated criminal fraud
>>2617773Home Depot isn't the only store on Earth. If you live in an area where there are no lumber yards and hardware stores, then your area already made their bed and are welcome to lie in it. They chose convenience over everything else.
>>2617773>>2617808>massive multi-national middlemen corporations bleeding everyone dry while themselves contributing nothing of value: the only way for society can conceivably function!
>>2617939I mean it's not like there's ever been a society that didn't work like that...
>>2617773>People didn't build with timber or stone or brick before corporate retail stores were inventedLuh mao
>>2617808>wiring, hardware, appliances, finished floors, etc. are kind of important for quality of life
>>2617985wew lmao>American Education, brought to you by Walmart: "We've always been in charge!"
>>2617992>didn't name one exampleI accept your concession
>>2617990If you had ever lived without them you would understand.
>>2618022I have and regularly do. I'm sorry you struggle with living without machines and corporate products, anon.
>>2617831>Home Depot isn't the only store on Earth. If Home Depot closes due to too much crime, what makes you think any of the others will fare any better?>If you live in an area where there are no lumber yards and hardware stores, then your area already made their bed and are welcome to lie in it.That's my point. If all you do is steal, don't be surprised you end up not having anyone to even steal from anymore. All that's left is dirt, because they will have stolen the trees too. And without trees it's only a matter of time before all the dirt washes into the ocean and you have nothing.
>>2617988>timber or stone or brickWho's going to make the tools and fire the bricks?>before corporate retail stores were inventedWhy do you leftoids think small independent businesses are somehow immune from theft?
>>2617104>>raise prices without producing more value to consumerBut they do produce more value to the consumer with all the free stuff they provide the community with.
>>2618090>Who's going to make the tools and fire the bricks?you think Home Depot makes tools and fires bricks?lollmao>immune from theftimmune from theft, no.just not a morally and ethically justifiable target for theft and damage like their hostile corporate parasite competition is.
>>2618114>you think Home Depot makes tools and fires bricks?No, I never said that. But if tool and brick makers get all their inventory stolen they'll move to a safer area and you won't be able to either buy steal any more tools or bricks.>just not a morally and ethically justifiable target for theft and damage like their hostile corporate parasite competition isDo you seriously think thieves will only ever steal from Home Depot? When all the "corporate parasites" are inevitably gone the justification will just shift to "white parasites", and then you're literally stuck in the mud.
>>2618293>Do you seriously think thieves will only ever steal from Home Depot?these degens are just making excuses for their behavior. It isn't a revolutionary act of political and cultural rebellion--- they're just a dumb monkey who wants something and steals it.They'll steal whatever they want from somewhere or someone else too. And I'm sure they'll make excuses about how that was justified too.This type of "it's never my fault" reasoning is common amongst criminals and sociopaths.
>>2618090>Who's going to make the tools and fire the bricks?Not home depot lol>leftoidsLmao
>>2618305Show me where I said it was Home Depot.
>>2618367Nobody is talking about stealing from local foundries, lumber mills, or other production facilities here, anon.
>>2613682Jfc. Is that you Krystal? Fuckin retard
>>2618298try again. i have only ever stolen and will only ever steal from massive multi-national parasites. i go out of my way to pay higher prices at my genuinely local businesses for goods that are available there.your type doesn't understand value in community or society, so i understand how you would have trouble grasping any kind of morality that has not been handed to you by walmart training material.
>>2616981Menards is based. What did the owners do that made you so mad?
Theoretically if you are buying bags of concrete you can just put tools beneath the bags on the cart and the workers will never know because they're not going to lift a fucken bag of concrete to check beneath it. It's technically not even your fault if this happens.
>>2618528see >>2618293
>>2618637I think you're drawing a lot of assumptions here. Try to steal 500bf of black walnut from a lumber mill vs stealing bolts and pipe fittings from Lowe's or Home Depot. I steal from big retail stores because it's easy and they don't care enough to stop it.I've also shown up in the middle of the night a few times to cut open the banding on the lumber hacks, concrete, and mulch they store outside, but I didn't take anything so the police wouldn't care when they got called.
I exchanged a piece the longer shop vac hose didn't have in the box. What they get for shitty customer service.
>>2613634Why wouldn't I steal from Home Depot? It's LITERALLY free
>>2616258No refunds
>>2617808It's all made in China shit anyway
>>2616494So a shipping container is 1000$ from China to a port, then you throw that onto a train and then truck. Is that 19$, I highly doubt it.The retail price is probably close to wholesale where the goods are branded and not directly imported.
>>2618920>I've also shown up in the middle of the night a few times to cut open the banding on the lumber hacks, concrete, and mulch they store outside, but I didn't take anything so the police wouldn't care when they got called.why did you cut it open if you weren't going to take anything?
>>2614853Currently. He legally got his name back.
>>2618568Rendered the entire state of Wisconsin un-goddamned-employable, and now migrants transplants from that shithole come here to get employed while whining about not being able to buy fireworks or booze one damn day of the week
>>2620015Cus fuck em.
>>2613636>pass the cost onto customersWho instead shop at places that they don't steal from.
>>2616258Really. I don't think I've gotten any shit from them as long as you have the receipt or the card that was used. Try not scuffing them all up with return scams.
>>2621434No better way to announce your baked-in poorfag retard mentality than to characterize common theft and its repercussions towards its victims as an altruistic act of social responsibility so you can root for the criminal team with a clear conscience.
>>2621466Who did anything of the sort? I simply invalidated your retarded claim that those shoplifters are hurting the customer. They are not, on your way rabbi.
>>2613636>"The man" will just pass that cost on customersGood. Home depot customers are retarded pieces of shit. They deserve it.>t. worked there
>>2621471>retarded claimSays the guy whose premise is that Home Depot customers...don"t shop at Home Depot.
>>2621496If they raise their prices enough, they won't. Lern2economics
>>2621497LMAO, companies vilified by your ilk just GTFO long before it comes to that, and then you cry some more about how not wanting to be victimized incessantly by brazen thieves while antisocial fucktards clap like seals and egg them on is "greedy".
>>2617001Good local businessmen prosper under the footprint of nearby chain stores which serve to draw traffic by their smaller businesses. Winning on customer service is easy.Want customers? Serve the customer in ways they reward with their custom.
>>2621507You seem like you have some weird chip in your shoulder unrelated to the topic at hand. Have you considered therapy or a gf?
>>2620061I don't understand how you can't find a job.
>>2621511Exactly correct, smart hardware stores that have a big box move in across the street reap a huge increase in business from increased traffic and by beating the box store by offering what they can't/won't provide. Better service is one area that's easy to beat them on, attention to localized needs and seasonal weather/buying habits, economic trends, etc. is another.
>>2613636if they could charge more for the item, they already would. they would lose money by arbitrarily increasing prices to compensate for theft. they just have to eat the costs. that's why companies astroturf so hard by telling people the theft will increase the prices they pay; they want to prevent the theft.
>>2613638That will never happen. They will be replaced by some amazon based monstrosity.
>>2613689Home Depot is a good company. Lowes is not
>>2613753Home Depot promotes people internally. That's worth something.
>>2616818There are plenty of places in the country that don't have one. Go there and enjoy your romanticized trash town
>>2617773there are as many lumber yards as big box stores near me, they even have a bigger selection with competitive to better prices, I think I'll manage just fine, faggot
>>2616503you work at a charity store?
>>2617769Ok but the problem is that all insurance absolutely fucking sucks donkey dick.The economic model of handing people money and expecting them to pinky swear no backsies hand it back when you need it is broken and stupid and people are constantly getting fucked by it.Everybody and society in general would be better off if they just saved the money they would have spent on insurance.
>>2621828Really big companies don't pay for insurance for everything. They 'self insure' which just means they expect to have the cash to pay it because they know insurance is a scam.Last time I heard, our actual insurance agency insurance didn't kick in until like 25 million dollars of damage.
>>2613735HD were charging 5.47 for an end-cap.Another manufacturer here in the US also sells to commercial plumbers and have prices on line. 22 fucking cents.Nope, the HD ones are made in China.They’re too stupid to be in business.
>>2621840What's your point, besides displaying that you don't know fuck all about how merchandising works?Funny thing is that you have no fucking idea what that part actually costs, and simply assume that the lower price is what it "should" cost because that confirms your irrational bias.In fact that price might be below cost and that kind of pricing model may be specifically intended to injure competitors trying to just break even and is also used to strongarm suppliers into untenable wholesale discounts just to maintain that high volume account.More importantly though, retail customers who want to grab one while on a trip to HD rather than hunt for a wholesaler who may or may not even sell to them are willing to pay what it costs to grab one off a shelf and consider it money well spent.Boo hoo.
>>2617773ah traditional european architecture.maud and daub.half-timber/tudor houses are pretty aesthetic you know.
>>2613634Stealing from home depot is okay because A) it's owned by Jews >Bernard "Bernie" Marcus (born May 12, 1929) is an American billionaire businessman. He co-founded The Home Depot and was the company's first CEO and chairman until retiring in 2002.>Bernard Marcus was born to Russian Jewish immigrant parents in Newark, New Jersey.B) they charge 35 dollars for the same pair of welding gloves that cost 8 at princess autoC) the flooring department are sheisty commission based greaseball who lie about the square footage of your home and charge you for measuring it if you don't go with them also have hidden surcharges for stuff like their team working after hours or having to go up and down stairs
>>2617773Build a big clay oven and you've got bricks.
>>2622036>they charge 35 dollars for the same pair of welding gloves that cost 8 at princess autoHow much does princess auto charge for a 4×8 sheet of 3/4" treated plywood, or a Bosch tablesaw, or a bag of peat moss, or a box of floor tile or a prehung fiberglass entry door?
not only is it not morally wrong, it's encouraged. fuck em all. steal from those places until you're bored and do it with a smile.
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>>2613634If it fits in your pocket it's basically free. Otherwise you have to pay for itT. White manJust walk out the door with it. Also rape a white women when you can. And deal some drugsT. Black or mexican
>>2614311>Eventually she quit because loss prevention kept penalizing her for calling out theives walking out without paying.It was in Chicago; they didn't want her calling out thieves because she was risking the store being ransacked by a flash mob and her being shot.
>>2621761There are no good companies.
This one time I forgot my cart had a crate of beer on it. So I went back to the store and paid for it.
>>2622260Policy is to never accuse someone of theft, even if they are openly stealing something.
>>2613682As an accountant this post gave me cancer
>stealing is okWho raised you?
>>2622373Home depot sells beer?
>>2613638>home depot closes down>lowes inherits the earth
I haven't bought cinder blocks, snow melt or dirt in 10 years from home Depot but I always have a lot.
>>2617005Gentrified neighborhoods either have chain businesses including "upscale" ones like Whole Foods or are infested with boutique stores that have a 300% markup, there is no in-between. You did this.
i don't know about anymore, but advance autoparts used to just let you open a 500 dollar line of credit in the store with no information and you could just not pay it back and nothing would happen if your phone number was fakei worked in collections :^)
>>2617430>put honest businesses out of businessmy local hardware store sells the chinkiest chinkshit brands at 2x the price of an equivalent normal brand part/tool from lowes or home depotthey're basically a convenience store that sells hardware, the way their business model just has 1.5x prices across the board for no reason
>>2622603How do you theoretically steal cinder blocks?
>>2622630it didn't used to be like this.small businesses now have two choices:- be scummy corner-cutting fucks- go out of business because massive big-box retailers send the bar lower every yearthe only way we heal is to eliminate the big-box faggotswhen people can begin selecting for quality again, they will.
>>2620015Every now and then I find myself POSESSED by the all too human need to have a pretty good time
>>2622632They store that stuff outside unprotected and under little to no surveillance in the pitch black of night, anon
>>2622579Someone raised in a world that no longer exists because it was bought and carved up by faceless multinational corporations while they stood by spouting folksy moralism.
>>2622632Find an abandoned cinderblock building in a state of collapse. They are everywhere around here.
>>2613634>tfw no communist negress gf to physically and mentally buck-ess break
>>2622952Single mothers
>>2622637>it didn't used to be like this.Fucking please, it's always been like this and the "mom and pop" stores refusal to actually cater to people's needs when they dominated smaller markets and thoughtvthey could make the rules and tell anyonecwho didntvlikevit to fuck off because there was no easy alternative is a huge factor in why box stores are everywhere now; people got sick of their attitude.That applies not only to sales but on the employment side as well; for all of the negatives associated with working for a corporate box store, smaller privately held and/or family businesses are often VASTLY worse, with zero room for advancement, no chance of profit sharing or discounted stock ownership, and no recourse whatsoever when they make some entirely self serving decision for the benefit of the owners that ratfucks the people who work there.People who romanticize "Mom and Pop" are completely divorced from reality; Mom is quite often an ignoramus who has no clue about the products she sells, Pop backs her up in any dispute because "family comes first" even when the customer is actually right, and if you work for them they will hire a criminal uncle or drug addict son to replace you just to save money, and think nothing of it.
>>2623528>phonefag's fat thumbs rage through another tism fit
>>2613634Niggers who wear shit like this should be fired for cause.
>>2617146supply and demand will always exist. if kroger markups are too high you can shop somewhere else
>>2620015Job security for Wagey
>>2623528>is a huge factor in why box stores are everywhere nowthe single largest factor, by an order of magnitude, that contributed to the demise of local business and the rise of big box stores is the undercutting that a larger organization can perform in specific under-performing locales by buffering it from normally- or over-performing localesso as long as competition in a locale exists, they price themselves continuously 10% lower than any local options. once the competition is gone, they raise the prices back up to "normal" levels above what you were even paying before at the local stores, and continue to a new location.this applies to employment as well. they offer good pay and bennies when they come in, then once there's no other option in their industry, bam, minimum wage and no bennies and go fuck yourself employee, here are some welfare sign-up sheets to allow us to offset the cost of your employment via the local and state governments (which you also pay for in your taxes lmao)
>>2623530>incel with nothing of value to add struts and preens over pointless "gotcha"
>>2623569You can keep posting this fantasy cope as many times as you like, facts anyone can observe show it to be utter bullcrap> where a box store moves into an area with established hardware/ home improvement stores, the good ones that don't act like assholes not only survive, they prosper> where there is simply no other hardware/home improvement option than a box store, it's because a box store moved into an under- or un-served market area, not because they drove every other store out of business that was thriving until they came> both customers and employees can vote with their feet, which is why your "evil box store having an unbreakable stranglehold on a town's qualified labor and customer base and thats what they ALL do!!!" fever dream is laughable retard cringe.Speaking of which, you have to be at least 13 to post here.
>>2623624right, so you're claiming that anti-competitive regional undercutting doesn't happen? lol>not only survive, they prosperitem A costs $100 from the manufacturer. local stores charge $110 for it. big boxes move in, charge $80 for it, taking a loss to pull people in to the store for the sale instead of the competition. once the competition is gone, it costs $160 at the big box. this happens continuously. walmart, home depot, best buy, target, you name it. i've seen it happen and you have too, even if you don't like it.>a box store moved into an under- or un-served market areaLMAO>can vote with their feetlmao. lol.sure, until the local options are out of business because the big box undercuts them as much as necessary to pull people in before about-facing into a price hike. i'm sorry the truth hurts your feelings, but it's happened tens of thousands of times.i know you really tie your identity to these massive global corporations but you need to realize that we all - yes you too! - live in reality, not fantasy MBA corpo-space. fucking loser MBA dickrider. they will not reward you for loyalty, paypig
>>2623634LMAO, touched a nerve, eh?There are no towns anywhere where WalMart and Home Depot are the ONLY options due to them driving every single other competitor out of business.ZERO.
>>2623639>LMAO, touched a nerve, eh?you wish, corporate cocksucker>ZERO.source: your assgo ahead and keep pretending predatory pricing doesn't exist. you'll keep being wrong. i don't understand why you people move to our countries and towns and want to destroy everything they stand for. why don't you just go back to whatever european shithole trained you to destroy local culture & economy? it's already the way you like it there.
>>2623643>>ZERO.>source: your assSo name a town where there's no stores to shop or work for in their respective markets other than Home Depot and WalMart, that had those options before those companies moved there.>go ahead and keep pretending predatory pricing doesn't exist. Nobody ever said that you histrionic commie faggot>you peopleLOFL, seethe harder at everyone who isnt a theif and/or an ecomonically illiterate juvenile fucktard...are "those people" in the basement with you right now?
>>2621761home depot accused me trying to return stolen goods while I had a fucking receipt. all because they couldn't find it in "the system". fuck them.
>>2623658But anon, haven't you heard? You have no choice but to shop there if they charge less for an item than any other local store or online retailer; price is the ONLY factor that guides where you shop.
>>2623662>5 cents have been deposited into your The Home Depot: You Can Do It, We Can Help!(tm) Checking account.>Good boy!
>>2621761>Home Depot is a good company
