Is the reputation of angle grinders being death wheels justified?
>>2583387Sissies of 4Chan will hate this but here we go.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epscc8Z5niQ
>>2583387Yes, if the perfect storm happens it'll mangle you.>>2583390Go to bed Doug
>>2583390Crazy old boomer does it the unsafe way for his whole life so everyone must do it the unsafe way!
>>2583387Being cordless helps greatly.
>>2583400It's even funnier than that.He's a lifelong cubicle worker who had never touched tools in his life, and only 10 years or so ago had a late life crisis realizing his life is almost over. That video is only after like 4-5 years experience of using grinders.
>>2583403Very true, the substantial loss in power and run time helps tremendously when you get bit
>>2583411>fully charged 6.0 high output
>>2583409> "Only 4-5 years!!" OK! Professor Grinder.
>>2583432that shit looks really bad and I think picture was taken as a joke.>>2583387never had problems with them. most of the time is people using them wrong.>>2583392>it'll mangle you.a hammer will hurt you. a screwdriver will hurt you. nowhere is safe when you are working with tools
>>2583442It’s even better than you think.If they didn’t want you to put 10” blades on 4.5” grinders, they wouldn’t have made the arbors the same size.
>>2583432>still sitting fully charged to this dayMany such cases with bepis!
I've learned a lesson or two with them >No unbuttoned button up shirts.Also had one catch while I was cutting 1" emt. I was working on my house first thing in morning still in slippers. Grinder ended up coming to rest running full speed about 3 inches from my ankle.Im a lot more careful with em now.
>>2583432my friend is lazy, instead of going and buying a hand-held circular saw, he installed an old wood disc on an angle grinder. He needed to cut some boards. The disc was a little pinched, the machine was knocked out of the hands, the button was fixed. So that his stomach would not be cut, he had to push this creature of Satan away with his hand. Total minus three fingers.
No
>>2583387If you grind or cut with anywhere other than the 12 to 3 o clock from his perspective, yes.Some retard grinding the 9 o clock spot will have it bite and oh no it nicks his hand or grabs his clothes.Funnier are the dumdums who use a wire wheel with no guard and skewer themselves with loose wires.
>>2583387No, most people are just giant pussies.
just leave the guard on it. i always use it. its never in the way. only people who are retarded think the guards are in the way.
>>2583387Like most power tools, they're dangerous if you're retarded. They are also dangerous if you're temporarily retarded, e.g. extremely hungover, high, etc. Like a chainsaw, you should be lucid if you're going to use one.But their reputation as a machine that will randomly chew your leg into biddy pieces is unwarranted. If you replace worn discs, tighten it all down correctly, wear your safety squints, and leave the guard on, they're not that bad. I'm in the camp that says "no gloves on the grinder," but I've heard arguments for and against. A welder I used to work with had two decades of experience on me, and he never wore gloves while grinding, but still had all his fingers unlike the other guy, so that's basically where my opinion was based.>I took the guard off mine it gets in the way H&S is a bunch of baloney you faggots these days are soft etc etcYeah we all know you're pretty cool. Have a cold one and chill out, it's the weekend.
>>2583552not wearing gloves while using a grinder is the definition of retarded. That man is an idiot.
>>2583387In the hands of morons, yes but accessory matters most. Flat knotted wire brushes are savage while the cup style are quite docile.
>>2583390>fake thumbnailfear generates clicks.
No if it's said about the handling safety, it's more like some users being dangerous with the power tools and not the tools itself. The worst danger may be the long term effects of the dust but a safe user would use respirator anyway.
>>2583390Kek Good video but I will be safe just in case anyway
Anything that spins 6500 rpm is dangerous and should be treated as such
>>2583789My die grinder spins at 25k rpm
>>2583568Nope, rotary tools with any torque and gloves can be FAR worse than not wearing gloves, because if you touch a spinning rotary tool with any kind of garment theres always the possibility of that garment getting caught, and it and whatever is in it being wrapped tight around the arbor/shaft/spindle. With gloves, that can crush or tear fingers and thumbs right the fuck off, rather than just being nicked or cut.
>>2583800If you're putting your hand near the rotating part of a guarded grinder, you're doing it wrong
I bought a grinder at harbor freight and used it to cut up iron pipe that had been used to make a clothesline. It was set in 18 inches of concrete and I thought cutting the pipe in two would make it easier to carry. I didn't think to use a repirator. I should watch more safety videos.
>>2583442>hammers and grinders can both injure you>therefore they are equally dangerousA true genius in our midst
Is it safe to grind metal close to a glass and metal wall (the side of my house) or should I join a workshop somewhere?
>>2583818im a steel worker, it happens. sometimes you gotta do weird positions. and in fact gloves helped not to cut through the skin...
>>2583387No, same goes for almost all accidents in construction. Someone was doing something with shit technique, or someone was being really cheap and not using decent quality tools/consumables. I've never had a disc blow up on me because I use the right disc for the right application, and I don't try to twist the grinder while cutting
>>2583798yeah I looked at mine again and it actually spins at 11000 rpm lol
>>2583387Yes. A shattered disc can kill you.
>>2584365>killNo shit, like really kill you.
>>2584366>killLike to death.
>>2584365>shattered discGood thing he's got his safety glasses on.
>>2584365>Yes.Or just make you look like a tool.
>>2583392>perfect storm happensyou mean press too hard in the wrong direction while using a cutoff wheel? it doesn't take much for a cheap disk to explode
>>2583387No, unless it goes wrong in which case yes
>>2583432how the hell do you hold that thing
>>2584698Briefly.
>>2583432>still a garbage batteryMy makita shits all over it unless you only use it for stealing shit chained down.
>>2584370I mean imagine if it hit his eye.
>All the guardlesslets in this threadlolThis post made by guard user.
>>2583800your glove isnt going to get sucked into the disk, unless you are being retarded and wearing some cheap as woven fraying pieces of shit, like those black dot gloves you always see niggers wearing. If you wear leather gloves like you are supposed to you wont have any issues at all. but then you didnt know that because you are a retarded nigger.
>>2583800Weldors somehow manage just fine (I are one) with proper smooth leather gloves and hands on the fucking side handle and body instead of random spazgrabbage.I use Tillman TIG gloves for most of my welding and grinding.>>2583942Point grinder away from wall and no problem. Any spark barrier will protect wall if want.
>>2584370A face shield would have saved his cheek. Correct combo is glasses and shield. Everything has been solved long ago including staying the fuck out of plane of rotation.
>>2584876>WeldorsAsk me how I know you have never spent a day in your fucking pathetic life as a welder.
>>2584881Not that guy, but from the welders I've known I'd say he has a good chance of being one. A very, VERY, good chance. Weldor... Kek!
>>2583387I worked for this bozo who would cheap out insanely on everythingexcept boozethe grinder was a big thing with a blown out switch and no guardso basically you had to just plug it in while restraining it somehowI wouldn't do it nowforget it
>>2583387I'll tell you what is a death wheelthose dremel saw disksthose things are seriously fucked upif you ever decide to pull one of the assortment and bring it in to play for some job, be very much on your toesaccident waiting to happen
>>2583387>be me>14>wall up to grandpa cutting a car port down>literally some sheet metal on a diy welded pipe structure>offer to help>hands me angle grinder>cut a steel pipe off above my head>steel pipes are heavy>concussion.PNGI learned to be less retarded that day.
Should I be as terrified as I am about using an angle grinder to cut and sharpen 4mm steel knife blanks?Is there any risk here as long as I'm not a retard and use the guard and PPE?
>>2585059For clarity - using a 5" angle grinder, cutting 4mm steel into knife blanks about 30cm long and 3cm wide with cutoff discs, then using 40 and 60 grit flap discs to add bevels
>>2584878maybe like 5% of people on shop floors seem to understand any of this
Tell me why anyone would use a 9 inch disc
>>2584366>PAY-Alan-Bailey-with-the-(...).jpghe is actually dead in that pic. don't be fooled.
>>2585108To make old Beetles albums into speed metal
>>2585117>A welder has received a five-figure compensation pay-out after his neck was sliced open with an angle-grinder as he cut steel for his employer.>Alan Bailey, 48, from Birmingham, West Midlands, had to undergo emergency surgery to stitch up the 12-inch wound after the machine slashed his throat in August 2011.>Despite wearing full protective gear at the time, Mr Bailey was 'millimetres from dying' when the machine 'kicked back against a piece of steel' and cut close to his major veins and arteries.>The father-of-three, who was treated at Russells Hall Hospital, West Midlands, was left needing 17 staples to hold the deep wound in his neck together and suffered psychological issues as a result.>He has now won a five-figure settlement from his employer Pressvess Ltd, after the firm admitted liability for the incident.>Mr Bailey said: 'I couldn't believe it when the accident happened. I was wearing full protective gear when the machine sliced my neck>'I was shell-shocked and I grabbed my neck to try to stem the bleeding.>'I was in complete agony and a friend took me to hospital where I had emergency surgery to clear debris from the wound and repair the muscles which had been severed.>'The doctors told me I was literally millimetres from having a fatal injury which was horrifying to hear.'>Mr Bailey spent nine weeks recovering from the incident and had to be cared for by his wife Tracy
>>2583387Yea.
>>2583387we had a girl in school tear her chest up pretty bad with one, though that probably comes with being unskilled with the tool
>>2585108Sometimes you need the extra reach of a larger diameter disc to get into places you need it.
>>2585119>hire retarded employee>judge blames the employer rather than the employee doing stuff like an idiotHow does an angle grinder with a grinding disc "kick" unless ur doing something wrong??Clearly wasn't full protective gear either...
>>2583462Why would you EVER cut 1" fucking emt with an angle grinder? Do you not own a bandsaw or a hacksaw, you fucking cretin? It takes like five seconds of sawing to cut a 1" stick by hand.
>>2584370fucking gamestop
>>2583443That’s OK for home use, pros use 12" blades for getting shit done. We also wire the trigger to permanently “on” for safety clearance on the trigger, and lower fatigue since we’re grinding for 8-hour stretches. Corded, of course.
>>2583464Thats a good idea, install the wood on the grinder and hold the blade with your hand. Call it “lathe”
>>2585118kek
always wear fucking eye pro when using one
Yeah I've heard a horror story about a carpenter who would turn off the safety (don't be a pussy!) and do this >>2583432on side jobs and he wound up crawling through the house he was working in leaving a trail of blood to the street. Customer found him kneeling on the sidewalk trying to staunch the bleeding. He lived but it was pretty bad
>>2585248>oh you want a bandsaw? Here I got an angle grinder. Just make it happenHappens all the time, some shops just don't give a fuck.
>>2583387>These tools have no brains. Use your own."
>>2583442>that shit looks really bad and I think picture was taken as a joke.not a joke, people have unironically done this.
>>2584365>>2584366>>2584367>>2584370>>2584371*blocks its path*
>>2586048Where is this retard's PPE?
>>2586048Thst guy is clearly a pro.Don’t attempt yourself.
>>2586160He's wearing sunglasses, what else do you need
>>2586160Its never the careless retard that gets injured, Always some unlucky bystander
>>2583387No grinders are fine I've been using them for 15 years now, only once had a kick back and it just scuffed my boot. Just use a guard and never use one of these wheels if you value any limbs.
>>2583387you can kill yourself with your thumb if you have enough imagination. people are dumb, tools are just tools.
>>2586214Epstein didn't thumb himself.
>>2583387no not at allyou have to be a total muppet to hurt yourselfeven if the disc shatters you'll be fine as long as you're wearing a welding mask or something which i would anyway because having sparks and shit fly in my face is very unpleasant
>>2584747the boomers at my old workplace would throw the guards and handles away when we got new grindersi have no idea whysometimes we wouldn't be allowed to use them on sites if mr safety sawi swear the attitude of>health and safety? that's for sissies and women i don't need gloves, goggles, or guards!is real
>>2586451I haven't used the guard or handle on my grinder since I bought it
>>2586526How fond are you of your face?
>>2586538i dont know about him but i fuckin hate his face
>>2586538Have you considered gitting gud and not putting yourself in the rotation plane?
>>2586451>throw the guards and handles awayI never understood this, I get pulling off the handle and guard when needed, but 90% of the time they make the grinder easier to use.
>>2586660/threadwhy the fuck is this so far down - just use the guard you retards. i've had some decent injuries but it was always without a guard.
>>2586660Which is fine when you have a clamp/vise to hold the piece and use two hands in a shop, but usually on site you have to one hand it, or stuff the grinder in a tight spot.I usually use it to cut a few pieces of rebar for small concrete forms, or to remove duplex nails that just refuse to come out with a hammer, neither of which you need a guard for
>>2586660You often can't see the blade and where its cutting with the guard on>>2587609Should always 2 hand a grinder, hold the piece down with your foot
>>2587609>not able to dig a duplex nail outopinion disregarded
>>2583942you should be carefully with the glass. steel sparks burn themself into the glass sticking verry hard to it. but that's only a cosmetical problem.
>>2585108
>>2583580 Best post in the thread. >>2585060You will get much better results holding the work piece up against a bench or belt grinder. Flap disks would be dog shit for knife making because they’re so inconsistent. Safety glasses, face shield, and tight fitting work gloves will keep you from turning into red jello if you decide to give it a try though. >>2586660Mostly fuck having to wait for the disk to spin down to set it down on something.
>>2583942onsite laying stairtreads and the general contractor offered to grind back some messy welds, sprayed steel fragments all the way up the newly installed sandblasted glass partitioning that was maybe 10' away - cost about 20k to replace it.
>>2587677thats dumb.
>>2586203What’s so bad about these? Does the chain break and fly off or do they grab and kick like a chainsaw?
>>2587777Kick like a chainsaw, but a heck of alot more rotations with it.
>>2587795Plus the teeth will suck in anything until it stops spinning.
>>2587620Putting the nail in my hammer claw and then kicking the hammer is my go to method, but it doesn't always work
I post this often, but the reputation of the angle grinder is absolutely deserved. >handheld tool, not used in clear work spaces>spinning tool, very danger>can be used for things it shouldn't be used forA bench saw is 2/3, an electric drill is 2/3, a hammer is 2/3.The angle grinder is 3/3.So you get someone working in a tight space using a powerful spinning tool for something it was never designed forI've seen guys cut their boots, cut their/someone else's powerlead, have it kick back and cut them, have it grab clothing and suck people into it, have it spin around on the ground retardedly when dropped, I've seen it hurl chunks of shit and people and a hundred different accdents caused when one was used by a retard to do something retarded.As an apprentice I saw a guy try to cut the top off an oxy cylinder with an angle grinder on his break, and I threw a spanner at him from the roof because he couldn't hear shit. That was not the most retarded thing I've seen done with an angle grinder, just the first of many retarded things
And I'll just give some advice.From time to time you will need to take off your guard to do something, but the mark of the retard is that they keep the guard off their tool ALL the time on that basis.I take my helmet off to scratch my head, then I put the helmet back on.The guard isn't just to stop things contacting the blade, it's to stop >>2584371. If something gets pulled into the grinder it gets jammed in the guard and doesn't just flail around and around until it catches something else. The guard also stops broken bits of disk flying back at you like >>2584370 and most of the disks break because they're being misused- but when you're tired it doesn't take much to slack off so you're better just using a guard.
>>2587610>You often can't see the blade and where its cutting with the guard onAre you fucking stunned? Where I have my guard it is almost completely covered by the handle and body of the grinder, also covering the "backside" of the disk that you shouldn't be using anyway unless you have to.Unless you work in a godless shop that makes you use the cuck guard (pic related), in that case I pity you.
>>2583800Guy at my work lost a finger because his glove got caught in the guard of his worm drive and the ambulance guys couldn't find the finger in time to reattached it since it was flung away by the saw
>>2587609Anon I get ring shank, but duplex? Those are literally made to get removed? Do you not own a cats paw or a hammer with a side puller if it's really that hard on you?
>>2584365>>2584366>>2584367>>2584370Nah, doctors are pretty good nowadays
>>2584370This is exactly why you use a guard
>>2583387I bought my first 7" grinder recently.It make the 4-1/2" grinders feel like a toy. Using both back and forth on the same project, its crazy.Ive always had a healthy respect of my grinders, but going up to the big boy is something else.
>>2588052No this is when its pinned to concrete
>>2583387I made a deep cut into my finger, down to the bone.
>>2588159God damn!
