>1 person to dig>3 people watching him dig Is there anyone in construction who can explain this shit other than being inefficient/lazy?
>>2580551very important to make sure he digs correctly
>>2580551Hey don't talk shit about road niggers
>>2580551You take turns digging. It's not about being efficient more about "many hands makes light work", but I'm a city worker and we take our time and make sure we get overtime.
>>2580639This right here. State road crew motto:>Two coming>Two going>Two shitting>Two mowing
You try digging for 8 hours straight
>>2580639Shouldn't the men waiting their turn to work stay at home until it's time or only get paid for the hours they worked instead of the hours they leaned on a shovel scratching their balls on the public dime?Nothing more annoying that get caught in traffic jam twice a day caused by a gaggle of ball scratchers who drag jobs out for months longer than it should take. And these guys all have huge beer bellies, they should be getting some exercise instead of pacing themselves.
>>2580688lmao @ haters
>>2580688The state does not reward efficiency. Hopefully that answers your other questions/concerns
>>2580639So you're stealing my taxes? The next time I see you faggots, you better be breaking your nuts.
>>2580688>or only get paid for the hours they worked How about you go fuck yourself with a rusty chainsaw?
>>2580688it might look lazy, and it is, but it's also for health reasons.if one of these guys throws their back out, that's on your dime for the rest of his life.
>>2580551>who can explain this shitI'm guessing the other men have to wait for the one man to finish his task before they can begin their tasks.
>>2580909Then while one guys works, the others massage the next one so when they rotate it will go much faster.
itt people who have never worked a construction job
>>2581410Sorry. We all passed high school
>>2581451idk i got a degree in math and i have always and will always do roofing
>>2580551One reason: The different people may have different jobs that all depend on each other throughout the day so they have to be there all day, but can't all work at the same time and have to wait for each other.Another reason, which is more likely and also contributes to the first: These projects are ultimately funded by the government. The government does not have incentives to be efficient like private industry, so they end up with lazy workers and the above scenario. Unions, which leech off government money, often have contracts prohibiting workers from being cross-trained to do multiple jobs or doing anything outside of a very specific role, so you have to have a specialized worker there for the whole day to do an easy task that anyone else could have done in a couple minutes.
>>2580551this has been a running joke for probably 100 years by nowmy dad used to refer to it as "the law of manual labor" that for every one guy digging a hole you need three guys watching
>>2583155>often have contracts prohibiting workers from being cross-trained to do multiple jobs or doing anything outside of a very specific roleThen how do you learn new skills in case the job falls through or you want to move on/up?
>>2580551They're trying to not bw on unemployment. Construction jobs are on a contract basis so when you finish the job you are now not being paid until you find the next jobsite. Except for if it's piece work then you go as fast as possible since you get one big lump sum to do the job
>>2581410I work in construction and I still talk shit about city workers
>>2580952This is an accurate answer in an otherwise troll thread. Congratulations.
>>2583155Yea its about getting the job done as fast as possible rather than being as efficient as possible on man hoursalso keeping million dollar machinery operating I'm sure the government adds a buncha bullshit requirements too
>>2583205You don't. Being a Union electrician means you stay an electrician. Being an ironworker means you stay an ironworker, etc
>>2580880>building the roads you drive on = stealing taxesok, build your own road then with the $22 you contribute annually to the road fund, retard
>>2583509And that is bad thing because why exactly?No fucking Ironworker is going to properly hook up a transformer, especially not the moment literally anything goes wrong. Trying to generalize labor just means that nobody gets taught how to do critically important and difficult shit. There sure as fuck isn't any infrastructure to teach the average retard how to hook up a panel. It has to be learned from experience, and guess what learning from an electrician and doing mainly electrical work makes you?The reason union workers don't do each others jobs is because you're stealing working hours from people from other unions, which means they have the right to file a formal complaint to your local and get your ass chewed. We recently had issues with the contractor trying to force us to go over the heads of the painters and do their job for them, which would have been man hours and experience they weren't paid for. And it's a good thing we didn't listen, because the retard contractor tried to get us to use paint thinner on latex paint, which would've peeled the entire I-beam's coating off.
>>2585715Intentionally stretching work to get more hours is universally understood to be tantamount to theft..
>>2585770people who aren't paying shit and have no clue how to do the work are not entitled to complain about the work being done. try taking this attitude to literally anywhere but 4chan and see how far that gets you, petulant whiny little officeworker drone
>>2585774>here is a bowel of shit and because you're not a chef you can't complain Sorry not gonna debate your fag buddies on reddit or 9gag.
Actual road digger observer here. We do this on purpose to make the public seethe.
>>2583205My local has training for specific areas of being an electrician, you could spend your whole career learning everything. They also sponsor you if you want to become an electrical engineer
>>2585770yeah not really
>>2585780I meant in real life you fucking internet addicted piece of shit
>>2585927So you're the faggot that brings memes into the workplace.
>>2580551where I live we call them "mexican pointers". usually 1 mexican with a clipboard pointing at stuff, and then the rest will also point at stuff.
>>2585774The government is gay and your attitude is exactly why people hate taxes
>>2585774Well first of all my literal job is to stop people from wasting time on the job so...
>>2585896It is quite literally a fireable offense, commonly reffered to as stolen time.
>>2585718I never said there's anything wrong with having a specialty.>you're stealing working hours from people from other unionsHowever, there is something wrong with this attitude. No person/organization owns a certain sector of work. Wages are paid as compensation for productivity. If someone else does the job productively, then they earned the wage. Intentionally reducing efficiency in order to protect jobs ends up doing more harm than good.>muh special skills, training, experience. Muh untrained people fuck everything upOften times there needs to be someone from a certain trade on site for a full shift when they quite literally just have to flip a switch, insert a bolt, spray something, or any other menial task that takes a few minutes. Their pay doesn't come from nowhere, so the people doing the real work are likely subsidizing the unproductive employee by having the possible earnings of their productivity be split between one or more extra people who are contributing very little.>And it's a good thing we didn't listen, because the retard contractor tried to get us to use paint thinner on latex paint, which would've peeled the entire I-beam's coating off.Sounds like you know it was a problem and knew not to do it the way requested, and likely knew the proper alternative to do instead. So why did you need a separate painter to come in when you could have corrected it yourself?
>>2585718>The reason union workers don't do each others jobs is because you're stealing working hours from people from other unions, which means they have the right to file a formal complaint to your local and get your ass chewedUnions are such cancer
>>2580551When I worked with pulling internet cables to apartment buildings I was the guy digging several times. For us, the reason was that we needed the hole to be dug right there, and before it was dug, literally no one else was able to do shit. Also, it was a one-person job which meant that if you weren't digging the hole, you were waiting for the hole to be dug before you could do your job.Waited for literally an hour once for a tractor to come lift off the lid to where the lines were because it was impossible to move on your own without breaking your spine.
>>2580551It's the same in literally any government job. One guy is the manager, one guy is the supervisor, one guy is the safety person and one guy is the worker.The manager watches the supervisor who watches the safety person and worker. The three standing around are basically fall guys for human stupidity. The majority of humans are of too low IQ to do basic tasks without making mistakes, the socialist answer to incompetence is that it can be eradicated with enough supervision and planning so if something goes wrong the answer must be obviously that it was the fault of one of the three guys standing around.
>>2585780Yikes bro touch grass
>>2586595Can't. Too busy touching ass, if ya know what I mean (`U`)
>fags who spend most of their time chit-chatting at a water cooler whine about the lads doing actual work at a reasonable pace
>>2586647Yikes bro touch grass
>>2581511only stripper ive ever known had a math degree from georgetown. Dumb as rocks too
>>2586680Yikes bro touch ass
>>2586651>slow paced fags who spend most of their time gossiping on the jobsite whine about other lazy fagsMEANWHILE