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Stupid air bubbles reeeeeeeeeeeee

How can I remove them? There is no qtdndtot and google gives results for pouring acrylic, but not from heat bending acrylic glas. I tried to softly grind with my dremel on a cut off piece. It only makes ugly scratches. Could very soft grinding paper be used and then polish it or something?

old thread which archieved quick. Still waiting for techthisoutmeow.
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>>2456332
>no goggles
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>>2456333
>titties
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>>2456336
>backview
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>>2456338
>downview with goggles
cutting out a fitting piece for a cheap safety goggle didn't work out well. So I simply made a paper model, cut the 1cm thick acrylic, cut out a triangle for the nose and drilled two holes on the side for the expander band. I think I could seal off the gap with silicone or something
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>>2456341
>front view
I can actually see trough good enough. The bubbles are on both eyes on the very inner side + it is bent there and vision warps when I close on eye and look on this inner side (left eye closed, right eye looks central left and vice versa). If i'd put a second 1cm piece above it, I guess it would have actual weak balistic protective properties.
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I settled for a bit less as innitially thought out. I won't put porcelain on all plates, my mask is 'wearable' but with the helmet it becomes almost cumbersome. If I'd put more on the helmet I probably couldn't comfortable wear both at the same time I noticed. Also bought a voice distorter and taped it on a painter mask. It works quite nice, but not together with the mask, because my voice isn't directly on the mic.

Finished armor will more likely to look like this.
>shins - full plate with one layer of porcelain + iron nailes for complete insanity
>upper legs - only the 18 layer backer
>front and back body plate - full plate with the second porcelain layout forming a 'T', extra protecting the spine, heart and lungs
>shoulders - only backer
>fore arms - like the shins, with iron nails too
I only need to make the shoulders and a dick plate eventually. All other pieces are backers. Taping on the shards then putting on the topper shouldn't take too long, adhering the straps neither.

Am a lazy fuck and could have been done 3 times over by now. Playing too much Fallout 2 lately
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>voice distorter mask
am playing with son. Saying stuff like 'beware the ninja fist' and 'here comes the bazooka'

https://vocaroo.com/1gC35bcZWl9E
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Cool project. I genuinely hope the chest armor is accurate to your chest.
I've been know to be a bit of a retard, but I believe to achieve a countour in acrylic that size requires a lot of heat and pressure. Pretty much in the form of specialty equipment. A piece like that would be manufactured with the curve already in it and not have originated from flat stock
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Yeah I was at the riot yesterday and this dude with a helmet and mask made of cum showed up it was wild
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>>2456336
I would have worried about your mobility with all this.
But you're clearly already on a scooter.
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>>2456404
never worked with acrylic before. The bubbles are on the surface. I orderd a cheap sanding and polishing set for car headlamps. Should be good enough
>>2456407
stop watching porn
>>2456556
it's my wife's chest here's mine from thread#1
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>>2456407
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Why acrylic and not polycarbonate?
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>>2456717
twice as expensive. Since corona every store uses plexiglass at their counters
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>>2456742
https://www.veplasgroup.com/ballistic-visors.html

also from checking info on real ballistic protective polycarbonate used for visors or as windows in kfc's in crime infested areas ~2cm/.8 inches seems to be standard. A second Visor above my current to reach 2cm total should be good enough. Could make a second from my 20x20cm sized plate. And after checking it again, it's actually polycarbonate I'm just retarded
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>>2456748
damn I just realized, a bullet resistant diy ghetto rigged double layered 2cm thick level II for less than 10 bucks apocalyptic punk goggle. Provided you can cut, heat and drill it. Where is my nobel peace prize?
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>>2456332
use a vacuum bag you retard
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>>2456332
Will you also build your own chest rig?
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>>2456756
no
>>2456781
yes. But not a plate for a carrier vest, rather a cuirass. I've the front and back plate done as backer, need to put on porcelain and top it off, then adhere straps.

I AM THE COMPOSITE KNIGHT OF THE APOCALYPSE
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>>2456648
>it's my wife's chest
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>>2456742
That's because acrylic doesn't do jack shit and shatters.
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>>2456332
pretty sure ballistic googles are typically polycarbonate layers glued together. Are the bubbles formed from heating alone?
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>>2457782
yes my heat gun became too hot. 1cm is hella thick. And my car headlamp grinding+polishing kit is ready for pickup so hopefully I can remove these bubbles which formed on the surface and get it polished crystal clear again. from watching vids and gathering info, you need 800/1000/2000 wet sandpaper and grind slow to not melt it, then polishing paste with some cotton cloth. Plexiglas can easily be cleared from scratches this way.

would you think 1+1cm to reach 2 cm total is the same as something like 4x5cm in regards to ballistic protection? I meanaybe polycarbonate/plexiglas works different comparing it to other composites which require multiple layers. In stores atleast these windows appear to be made of one single plate?
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>>2457886
I think lamination is fine when if it means better handling and less heat fuckery. It is not typical this thick of acrylic gets bend. You may try modulating heat as well. if you can preheat the piece in a gentle oven or radiator to control surface temp.
Found this document and it discusses how well the material insulates thus exterior overheats before the center and risk bubbling.
https://www.curbellplastics.com/Research-Solutions/Technical-Resources/Technical-Resources/Plexiglas-Forming-Manual
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will grind and polish tomorrow
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man I've no clue about grinding and polishing, this is so awful. The bubbles are still there. Maybe I've to use polishing paste again tomorrow
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>>2459368
it's still the same result just at a different angle
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>>2459369
I did first grind with wet sand paper 800/1200/2000 on my drill, then sponge with polishing paste also on drill. complete milky glass, then redone with 1200, 2000 and paste on highest rpm, which made it slightly 'better'
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ahhhhh yea the secret ingredient to polishing is, toothpaste and polishing longer than you initially asume
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>>2459395
good enough
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Hi i just wanted to inquire on tongue hole please
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>>2459665
tongue anon, I can't deliver. Can I simply paint a ' P ' on it?

I reached a delicate point, contemplating about weight and desired effectiveness. Main goal is to have it stop typical 9mm loads and shrapnel, because if anything this seems realistic in all aspects, surviving, encountering and so on. As another wrote, every material becomes bullet proof at a certain amount, but then it becomes unwearable.

With my mask and helmet I'm at a limit. The weight can't be increased further for me to comfortable wear it (shouldn't have skipped neck day I know). I'm uncertain if the non porcelain plated armor pieces will achieve stopping common handgun ammunition. Maybe I should ask some other U. S. guntuber if he is willing to receive test panels by mail
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>>2458310
dats it mane
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>>2459918
Actually based if you do. I didn't want the tongue for some weird fetish like people said I just want to see you stick a tongue out at the people you protecc from
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>>2459918
Pistol rounds are easily blocked by fibers alone. Not sure about yours.
Ceramics are mostly added against rifle.
There are NIJ IV plates made from UHMWPE alone, for the benefit of floating.
Overprotection is very real. Besides weight that could make you carry more munition or more nimble, body surface are important to the range of motion, venting heat and sweat, perceiving sound and light, communication, carrying load and access to pouches/pockets, simply covering them make you lose access to them and remedies usually weight more. The more you have the more it take to take on and off to get ready. Quick detachment is also needed in case of drowning and receiving medical aid.
Therefore fully armored from head to toe only had very little occasion that they are justified. The standard is helmet and plate carriers, with or without side plates. Face shield, arm, legs and pelvis are novelties.
Why can't you shoot it yourself or let a buddie of yours?
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>>2460016
I fully understand why ballistic protection is how it is. Mobillity beats protection for the most part, you only need to protect your vitals, a visor won't let you aim well, you already carry loads of gear and so on. You know whom this concept was developed for? The modern soldier. I am not a soldier, neither do I want to be one.

I'm afraid of what the future will bring, my worst nightmares would be to be unable to protect my wife and son from danger amongst other possibilities. We can't bug out, not only that I personnaly think bugging out is pointless if you have nowhere to run to from begin with, but it brings many other drawbacks you won't be able to face even against the slightest of what >>>/out/ requires of you to survive. I solo camped, I fished and made campfires, drank wild water I refined myself. I can't expect this from my family.

I have no guns, but under bad circumstances I would have to protect us from enemies, looters who do. There could even be no medical infrastructure for a period of time, let it be only 2 weeks of turmoil.

We will bunker down, I will be the guard of our shelter, clad in a knight's suit of ballistic armor. We won't run anywhere. Do you understand my philosophy?
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>>2456791
Vac bag is cheap and how you remove air bubbles you tard
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>>2460245
As mentioned in #1 it doesnt' seem noticable. Maybe it's my technique, stirring slow and appyling it with many brush strokes from centre to edge, I dunno?
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>>2460245
also for a vacuum bag, I'd need the gypsum form to be way more stable. Under vacuum pressure it would deform, if not break down immedieatly
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>>2460236
Fortify your house and neighborhood then.
Protection is only half of the battle, even a long stick would significant improve the situation from casually getting fucked to looters consider with their life on the line.
Building shields for protection is 100x easier than crafting a suit of armor in stay at home considerations.
Family survived in the wild before, no reason they can't now. You know how to go out alone is already a good start. It is not always a good strategy to give up your assets but don't rule out options completely.
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>>2460504
I'm aware of that, I'm aware of the effect ground matchheads have, if stored in an open ended cylindrical enclosure, then igniting it all while random spherical objects are placed infront of such. Or that a type of usually white packaging material combined with certain fuel liquids can be used to deter unwanted visitors, given some would lit such fluid.

But what if some asshole decides to bring a gun with him? I'd rather have some plate between my flesh and his projectiles.

Maybe >>>/k/ has the occasional europoor self defence thread. I wouldn't mind discussing such thematics here, but it's just a log (lol /b) of mine about this armor
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>>2460555
You can hide behind a shield and push him out of your entrance walkway and keep up the beating and wrestling so he can't point at you or lost the gun.
Some can achieve the same effect with a pole.
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>>2460236
>I can't expect this from my family.
leave your family when it's survival time otherwise you're wasting your time
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>>2460648
yes, but looters can show up in groups. It could come down to having to tank some shots eventually. Sounds cringe from a larplord who played too much vidya I know.
>>2460777
downright evil, there are some limits which make me won't continue on living, for example losing my family
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>>2460895
First looters have number but not organization, each one of them is a self centered opportunist, prioritize his own loot, take his own risk, and generally don't bother with teamwork that requires consideration for others. All you need to do is hurt one and the rest went somewhere else.
Gangsters and the rest care less about immediate loot and their own lives, instead territorial control, so strike fear into the local is one of their fanatic goal.
Secondly, unless you are a master which still dies to crowd from time to time, you will have to use number and organization against number and organization of gangsters. Neighbors alike should form up together against huge threat when they still can.
Lastly your house entrance and other chokeholds are perfect place to consider less about being flanked. If you can get your neighbors together, the line would be extended outward to community entrances with more guys and props such as cars and large trash bin to barricade.
In the event of looters with gun running around, id make my own weapon and spray nasty chemicals and worry less about laws or empathy for the aggressor.
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I am a big dumb dumb idiot moron. Me know nothing, me big stoopid.

The visor doesn't work as intended, wearing it longer I realized the bend reduced vision even further. Can't actually wear it properly together with the helmet. 8€ for the polycarbonat + 12€ for the polishing kit which still wasn't enough to clear the milky fog.

Blergh
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>>2458310
man your document is a life saver, couldn't find at what temperature thermoplastics will bubble
>pic
maybe I can save my ugly visor. Put it in our oven at around 180c, at 210c bubbles pop up. Placing it on an evenly bend piece of wood so it simply adapts this curvature. Then get my work helmet which has a frame for a visor from work and bolt that onto my other helmet, fixing this new visor then to it. YES I AM A GENIUS!
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haha magic, it realy takes on form
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>>2461615
ah some more bubbles on the top centre edge, maybe from condensated water coming in contact still pleased. requires another take of grinding and polishing, then connecting both with nuts and bolts. NICE NICE NICE thank you thermoplastic chad>>2458310
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>>2456338
It's hard to tell, but did you leave enough room so backface deformation of the helmet won't leave you drinking through a straw?
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bolt together, applied the UV protection which came with the kit. Drying on the balcony. Now the bend isn't so steep anymore and vision doesn't warp too much. Polished with the actual polishing paste, still a bit milky but way better than my first 2 attempts. Gonna see tomorrow. if I can fit it to my visor holding mechanism
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>>2461629
in the pic I didn't put on the helmet correctly, it has to sit deeper, that's why my visor didn't fit properly anymore as I wanted to use it as a goggle instead. It's modelled onto a skateboard helmet, had to remove half of the inner padding to fit the mask there.
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my first thought I had in mind, goggles
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>>2461649
but I realized it doesn't work out, so visor instead. It's smaller than a full face visor
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In hindsight, it would have worked better and way easier to heat thinner polycarbonat, something like 0.5 cm instead times 4 and bolt them together.
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ok now I need a aturdy hinge, my work helmet's one ia too flimsy for holding the heavy polycarbonat. I thought of a kind of locking hinge with atleast 90 degrees like pic rel.

gonna ask in qtdndtot aswell
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>>2461615
Nice
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>>2461185
When shit hits the fan everyone will have to loot/scavenge for survival. Normal friendly people can become very dangerous when they are hungry. Unless OP has a big food supply (which he had to keep hidden from others) he and his family would have to leave their home to find enough to eat. In that case joining a bigger group and looting/scavenging together with them would be OP's best option.Farming would only be an option if OP/his group can defend his crops. I would also recommend to read some books about edible plants in middle europe.
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this looks terrifying my guy
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>>2456332
Post a vid of ballistic testing
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Waiting for drawn on tongue
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>>2462119
asked techthisoutmeow, a youtuber. Still waiting myself
>>2462150
it's ugly, forgive me once I scrub that off again
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washed all pieces on which I want to place tiles. upper legs in celllar, still need to make shoulder, boot strapon, some sort of hand plate not a full gauntlet and ofc my glorious dick plate
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that's clear enough for me, ain't shooting any guns anyways. infact it would sit closer on my face and bubbles and deformation are less noticable
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>>2462916
after theorizing about hinges and visor mechanisms I conuded that pic rel is the easiest solution. will have to extend a small connection to the visor and place them more or less straight.
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>>2456556
>But you're clearly already on a scooter.
You just gave me a good idea.
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>>2456336
It that a mold of your pregnant wife?
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>>2461858
Bro have you ever heard about growing food and raising animals? You need to be making friends with your neighbors and learning water storage and gardening not building body armor and fantasizing about robbing people.
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>>2463564
touch grass coomer
>>2463589
she be a chubby lass, arrrrrrrrr

thread theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGkdRYiThNQ
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totally underestimated tile work. placed mosaic on front and back sleepy time now techthisoutmeow doesnt answer email, last vid month old...
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OP, you could've stopped building this serial killer shit three threads ago, it's only gotten way worse
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>>2463744
no, games became boring. so instead I place some mosaics to relaxing music, what else should I do with my free time in the night when the family sleeps?
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>>2463899
drink heavily like everyone else.
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>>2462914
Is this for a Darkman reboot?
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>>2456333
How terrifying
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fucking viscious, requires final layers. only placed tiles on front. Body plates weigh 6kg total, not bad
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what do zoomers say? Das drippin' fr fr no cap
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did you assume that "reinforced with ceramic" meant porcelain shards?
please be honest
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fellas wrapping himself in shrapnel xd
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bro, shit looks heavy
train running with it and stuff
before starting actual stuff
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>>2464621
>>2464623
what are the plates for? do they really protect you? arent they kinda brittle
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>Left arm of the forbidden one
only 3 more cards and I can send my foes to the shadow realm
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Cant wait the BILD front page article about you! godspeed
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>>2464676
you have a bent nail that you could easily replace or remove right now, why haven't you
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>>2464634
if fiber he uses is glass fiber, the plate and tile shard isn't that far fetch.
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>>2464637
>invade bunker
>wild DIYer appears
>push him down with long stick
>impales himself on nails and jagged porcelain
>rescue wife from this hellish existence
>restart humanity

I would totally DV8 that VH0
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>>2464634
I qouted the armor master himself 2 times on this

alumina oxide, silica carbide, boron carbide are the best, if your going store bought porcelain works, just heavier and thicker. Stay away from brick, slate, and silica mortar based ceramic tiles, they suck

the fiberglass backer should be enough for 9mm already + porcelain give it more capability to withstand even more hits
>>2464637
that's what the final layering is for
>>2464641
mask weighs 1500 gram, helmet a bit more, front plate 3kg and backplate also 3kg. I won't run far from our castle, it is my duty to stand guard
>>2464646
glass fibre and epoxy resin are used in various different types of work including boat and car hull repair. This stuff is tough
>>2464703
>page 5 side notes
>local idiot ends up in hospital after poking himself on home built hedgehog armor
>'I AM COMPLETELY UNHINGED!' he yelled, further 'THESE FU**ING HINGES TAKE FOREVER TO BE DELIVERED DAMNED!'
>>2464704
that's on purpose, some are even rusty. I found these nails 4 years ago. There was a children outdoor project in a local park where they built wooden huts. These kids dropped good nails with every step, more straight ones then bend from sloppy hammering. While walking trough their little favela town with my young son, I gathered every nail I could find.
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>>2464723
warning you in advance, my wife is legit psycho. She attacked me with a kitchen knife once I'm not even joking.
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as it turns out, trying to work the nails in didn't work out at all. Tried to lay down the first glass cloth, the nails moved to much into any direction and I couldn't lay it down flat. Some went trough, some partially and some not the slightest and were covered by the cloth. Gave up after fumbling for some minutes and concluded I rather cut a single strip of mesh trough which I put the nails and then attach this piece of mesh on it's 4 corners to the armor via wires. Probably gonna drill 4 holes for this, or bolt on 4 ring bolts dunno yet. Something else I noticed, the fresh wet epoxy somewhat reacts with the ductape and makes it come loose once you lift the tape a bit and epoxy runs on the sticky side. It wont stick on anymore then.

Also cut some corners of my leg plates to wear them comfier. Smoothed out the front edge of my helmet so the visor will have a better fit, need to cut out the nose a bit further of the inner glas. Once my hinges are there I can place the visor on I hope. Gonna need polishing paste and anti fog spray, as they fog up, exhaled breath comes trough my mask's eye holes.

Lastly I realized that shoulder pauldrons are difficult in form. Have my upper legs gypsum print still, held it on my shoulder and did some simple movements, to my surprise only holding the arm straight up would press it against my neck. So I've to figure out some form that won't restrict my arm movement too much.
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>>2456332
Christ, you're still at this? You're as bad as that idiot building his own boat.

Here's some tough love for you OP:
Your "armor" isn't going to stop a 9mm or any other pistol round, especially at close range.
If a looter shows up with a gun and you don't have a gun then you've already lost. The looter will get your stuff and simply kill you for the trouble.
Even if you managed to put all this shit on before the looter attacks you'll be so cumbersome that all the looter will have to do is tip you over and shoot you.
You KNOW this, deep down you realize how ridiculous this is. You're wasting all this time, money, and effort on a project that will imply get you killed if you're dumb enough to trust your life to it. You'd be better served fortifying your home and adding defenses if you're really worried about a happening.

I know you'll ignore this or post some rambling retarded justification for what you're doing but you're so autistic you simply won't listen to anyone else. At least I tried.
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>>2464900
This is tongue anon here. How will you piss and shit in this? Do you have access holes for these activities?
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>>2456338
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>>2464965
>it doesn't

Nothing OP has made will save his life, only make dying way more slow and painful
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>>2464915
that's quitter talk boy
>>2464965
hitting myself with my hammer and I felt nothing
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>>2465085
You will never hit yourself hard enough to cause damage. Our brains are wired to specifically not be able to do this.
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>>2465185
Then explain how people can commit suicide.
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>>2465191
How many people commit suicide by hitting themselves in the head with their bare hands? Even a rock is tough. Your brain hasn't evolved to keep you from the stupid with a gun
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>>2456342
douglas p? that you? I really like your music
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>>2465191
How many people do you know have bashed their fucking heads in with a hammer intentionally? Zero you stupid fuck. Don't try and hit me with general suicide states lil jit..
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>>2465185
you don't know me, I used to smash my head into the wall in a psychward and gave myself concussions
>>2465201
nope, lately I listen more acid techno and the like
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>>2464676
>Creepypasta_B-rate_slasher_horror/10
OP you really surpased the doll thread as the most nightmare fuel shit on /Diy/
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>>2465246
>I used to smash my head into the wall in a psychward and gave myself concussions
What a surprise, OP is a headcase.
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What's the best option to go ned Kelly style? Doesn't have to stop anything bigger than 9mm, just has to be cool and 'light'
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>>2456332
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>>2456342
Based. The local schoolchildren are no longer afraid of my Cold Weather Mask since that stupid Batman movie came out, maybe this will put the little shits back in their place.
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my hinges are here, they had to be oiled and stil are difficult to open and close. Instead of two on both edges of the visor, I will place one in the middle instead
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>>2456336
Irl dark souls character like smough
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haha it looks like junk but I love it
>outside
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>>2466399
cracks formed from tightening the bolts too hard
>inside
have to cut out the nose again since the visor sits lower
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>>2466401
>holding on helmet open
have to bolt it on
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>>2466403
>closed
this shit fogs up almost instantly, going to look for anti fog spray and if its good for polycarbonate. if anything I know now how to aproach to make a new piece of polycarbonate element, would bend it a bit curvier, buy a slightly longer piece, not clamp it down with bolts so hard, not trying to clean it with glas window cleaner and such

only cutting, heatbending, drilling and bolting would be required, also have 0.7mm lying around for an outer and inner protection, the scratches on the inside are from the mask's nose as the surface is quite rough
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8€ for the polycarbonate
7€ for 2x 90 degrees lock hinges
12€ for polishing kit of ehich contents I used up almost all and in h8ndsight wouldn't be needed if taken care the poly properly
extensions piece I had lying around, same for nuts and bolts

maybe up to 10€ for anti fog spray dunno yet
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>>2464676
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>>2466403
*tips visor*
M'lady
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>>2466403
>hook up thin cord to hinge
>pull with teeth
>visor drops down seemingly automatically
>say "my vision is augmented" to passerby
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reading a bit about this guy who made the trojan balistic suit of armour
>The suit used a bullet-resistant foam of Hurtubise's own design to repel bullets and knives.
>foam
how?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m-uAqgd6Oc&feature=youtu.be

it costs 150.000 US dollars to wear this suit for 12 seconds. No rly, rip and all but cmon dude, 150k? he even built in a voice distorter lel, had the same idea
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>>2466955
damn... died a broken old man. Is there some correlation between being insane and building armor? troy you crazy bastard, glassfibre cloth can be ordered cheap on ebay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_RsGwfT_tM
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man. the inner piece of the visor broke. Wanted to cut out the nose further. after doing so I bend it by hand, heard cracks. Then broke it in half. Probably weakened by the first angled bent with my heatgun. I realized I don't need to cut out the nose at all, as mentioned tried to make a goggle at first.

Not only that but the idea to simply bolt multiple pieces of polycarbonate together is stupid. Rather adhere them. Gonna order 4mm poly. Heatbending in the oven over the curved back rest of our wooden chair. Maybe even only use a single 1cm piece of poly anyways. I've to ponder
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>>2466405
>Fog
A bar of soap and a rag. No water. Just rub the soap on and then polish it in with the rag until clear again. It also fills in small scratches. It works better, is way more commonly available, and is infinitely cheaper than the jew spray they sell in stores.
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>>2467097
thank you, I am worried the normal anti fog spray would be too agressive for plastic glas. Window cleaner certainly is. Gonna try it out
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>clack
>katshink
>clack clack
>katshink

gonna fix a strobe flash light on somehow too.
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>>2467097
and a big thank you. It really works, also smells nice.
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>>2467503
Just get a streamlight clamping helmet light
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>>2467044
Damn. I wish I would have known about him before he died. Would have loved to help him out with his inventions.
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>>2456332

i think you need a vaccume chamber or something bubba,i dont know desu senpai, im just a fellow retard on the internet.
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>>2467503
Draw the fucking mouth and tongue back on
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>>2456332
Vacuum pumps are quite affordable and have many DIY uses.
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How the fuck do plan on suppressing the impact? I got hit with a 7.62 round in Afghanistan and it felt like I was slugged with a 20kg weight thrown out of a moving truck, it didn't go through my plate but fuck me it broke 2 ribs.
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>>2468391
Better than a bullet wound
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>>2467713
>>2468357
how do you use a vacuum chamber to bend acrylic?
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>>2460236
No gun you are larping
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>>2467814
fight me
>>2468460
that's what I wrote, read it again? Nogunz want to survive the coming winter blackout riots too (me)

who wins
>starving unarmoured looter with a makarov
vs
>fed (as in not hungry lmao) armoured bunker psycho with a junkyard polearm

yes it's a larp, live action real play. I just want to be a normie living my normie life but noooo I'm forced into this shit situation.
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my son wants an armour now too, had to explain to him that he will outgrow it in mere months. Funny as I remembered that this issue existed for hundreds of years, Karl V and other royals were too big for their children sized armour by the time the build was completed.

https://www.khm.at/nocache/de/objektdb/?id=11227&L=0&query=kinder+r%C3%BCstung&q%5B%5D=kind&q%5B%5D=kinder&q%5B%5D=harnisch&view=0&facet_date=-4500%3B2021&sort=score%3Adesc

Same with the skateboard helmet, I could stud protective clothing and gear with glass fibre and epoxy resin.
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>>2463899
have you demo'd any of it to where you feel safe enough to use it or is it just for the look? if you can get thermals see if it can block your heat signature and if it doesnt you could try to use the material in shock blankets into it.
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>>2468391
internal layer of corn starch and some liquid. this is ghetto but the diffusion is robust.
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>>2468498
That will only work if the shots are spaced out and the amount of liquid would make them fucking heavy. A thin outer layer of titanium (3mm) and inner layer of silicone foam could take the edge off but the titanium would have to be a custom order since it would be next to impossible to manufacture at home. Alternatively you could buy a stock sheet and bend it into shape but it would look like shit
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>>2468497
why would I want to hide my heat signature? Am I going to have to fight predators? I don't understand
>>2468691
some told me about liquid armor in #1. It's only theoretical.

We went to the Museum fünf Kontinente today in Munich. Quite funny, as we wanted to cross the street where the museum was on the other side, the Oktoberfest Umzug just so happened to march along. Stood there half an hour, once inside we came across an exponat of this crazy mofo
>pic rel
Puffer fish helmet, wooden shark teeth spear, armor made from coconut bast (dunno word) and women's hair.

In another aspect I find it quite interesting the need for humans to express some sort of tradition and culture, witnessing it 2022 right infront the museum live and then inside of it which contains hundreds of year old art. A waste of time manifested in useless details. Depictions of unmoving gods carved from lifeless stone. I realize why my god, the christian god, hates this so much. Art with real uses for the daily life become symbols of decadence and ultimately turn into parts of rituals which the people of their time and place have to obey for unknown reasons, whereas the initial real use of said objects is lost. You simply have to do this, sacrifice on this certain day for this trivial reason and so on. Funny enough that christianity suffers from this as well, yet 2000 years ago Jesus made it quite simple for everyone. Only fundamental rules and the believe in him are required to reach salvation. Salvation which if you compare it against what man made religions promise is simply the best outcome. I truly wonder what future will hold for this earth, Revelation is that, revealed in the bible, in text. I hope this current time period is exactly that for it would mean all suffering comes to an end soon. But what if not? It would mean I've to carry on further and fight trough this garbage, not only for myself but my family.

God, Jesus, everything turns to shit
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>>2468691
idk i'd like theres a middle ground where you can use both with less liquid weight but the force dispersion has an even enough spread to not crack a rib or two. sort of like how they dampen sound from cars.

>>2468722
its cheap asf and with your getup you could layer it into the mesh. it also doubles for good insulation depending on where you use it at.
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>>2464676
Bro be honest with me how much meth
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>>2468968
Isn't the only advantage of a non-newtonian fluid that it conforms to your body when not struck? If the armour is comfortable enough when rigid, and has well-conforming firm padding to distribute shock, then it shouldn't be much worse than fluid-filled.

If you do go with oobleck though, add fluorescent blue food colouring so when you get shot the swat team think they've injured an alien. At this point raise your arms, splay your legs, and let loose your battlecry (duck whistle).
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>>2469120
Quack quack
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cut the front and back plate yesterday after 3 days of curing of the second ontop layer. The amount of dust is somewhat unsetteling. From my understanding, wet epoxy is highly dangerous, under no circumstances should it be cut or grinded (grount?). In addition the glass fibres itch like bitch. Usually I didn't care much of it, but yesterday was defintevely too much and strands poked me trough my gloves, still have a slight itchy sensation on my hands which almost faded away, should be gone by tomorrow. For future pieces, I think I will make the final cut from the unworked cloth with scissor and have it at the correct fit right away, instead of having so much overlay which soaks up epoxy and I have to cut it away with first my angle grinder and then finer cuts with the dremel. Dremels hate soft cloth and get stuck easily if ones not careful.

Maybe I've to sacrifice our vacuum cleaner to suck off that dust mess, I used the cleaner once in the beginning and the filters clogged up badly. After cleaning it and inserting a new dust bag, it gave off that epoxy smell in our home and I don't want those particles there. I always wear eye protection, corona leftover masks, gloves and working clothes all of which I clean or replace frequently. I think I don't want to make many much more armor pieces. Applying the epoxy layer for layer and seeing how it turns out is great fun, but the cutting part is the opposite of it, I dread it everytime.

I kindof dont want to add porcelain to the other pieces, gonna look up shooting statistics which include shot placement and judge from this information if its worth or not to add more.

lulz all this talk about blackouts makes me worried I can't use any power tools which require electricity ofc. Maybe I can finish armor pieces without drilling, cutting and grinding. Bought too much epoxy at the best value and also got a bit too much glas cloth leftover
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cool, thx for the info fbi. got any job in your german armour develepmont section? Am quite literally a neet funding this project myself with my neet money.
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>>2469886
couldn't find simple statistics. I guess most who are familiar with guns, be it police or criminals will aim for the upper center mass. head to a lesser extent and even less so pelvis, which is a tactic when facing armoured targets. But nowadays dick plates are more common no?

Oh well tomorrow I'll try to adhere the straps on the front/back, shins, forearms, upper legs. e6000 is mighty strong, my mask still holds flawlessy, even after washing it out a few times by now. now I think it will be like this, only mask, front, back and forearms will be 18 + porcelain + 6, all others consist of only the 18 layers. If I have restover glue I gonna stick the mesh strips with nails simply on, no drilling
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Let's say I wanted the same outfit of The Batman (2022), where do I start?
I also want the suit to be bulletproof if possible, for no particular reason.
I know I am asking it in a short and senseless way but I would be interested in if it's even worth bothering first before diving in.
I've never been to this board but this thread seemed most appropriate, tell me if I should make my own thread
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>>2470306
I'd sugest this. get a batman costume that fits good on you, also it should come with good straps. Then build on it, I did so with the skateboard helmet, all other pieces so far are modelled on gypsum prints. 3a rating is easily achievable. In #1 I have everything posted about progress, saved it as pdf and pngs. Dunno how to post the entire thing.

I would think you'd need about 20m2 glass cloth, discussed this prior. Glass filament comes in various weights and weave patterns, what I did was to combine a tightly woven light weave and a heavy duty type called woven roving used mainly in boat repair. I calculated that a 18 layer patch sized 33cm x 33cm (bit larger than medium sized ballistic front plates, also the rolls come in either 1m or 1.2m so you can cut out 3 width wise without any loss) needs about 750 gram/0,75kg (also volume is almost the same so 0,75 litre) mixed epoxy resin with hardener. So about 500g resin + 250g hardener. You mix resin and hardener in a ratio of 100:50 up to 100:60 in either weight or volume. Never measured mixes perfectly, cured hard all the time. Usually buying epoxy on ebay, it comes with both fluids.

Innitially I looked up how cosplayers and furries build their suits as they have it all figured out. For adhering straps they suggest E6000, if you don't wanna bolt straps on that is.

I won't bombard you with youtube vids proofing that 15+ heavy glass filament layers with epoxy/polyester resin. Presonally I wrote to techthisoutmeow about my project and asked him to build a test panel like my build, one backer with 18 layers and one with additional household porcelain and the 6 layers topper. Still waiting for response video.

>pov you invaded the wrong bean bunker
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>>2470306
>>2470338
further
https://screenrant.com/craziest-cosplay-costumes/
the second one. just calculated everything i bought for this project on ebay and came to 512€, this includes the dremel for 60€and some unnecessary garbage like the voice distorter. Cheapest epoxy goes for about 11€ per kg. light glas filament like 3€ per 1m2 and heavy 5€. Ugly porcelain is free.

I calculated the cost for a 18 layer 33cm x 33cm backer plate to be around 15€, if you can get the cheap industrial epoxy. 'art' epoxy is sold for 3 times higher prices per weight, also comes in way smaller unit quantities

ask me more
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>>2470338
>>2470342
Thanks for the response, that armatus designs batsuit looks great
Also I really didn't think about this too much I realized. There is so much work to be done here and I have zero experience with any of this so I was a bit too ambitious I think
I guess if my city needs a masked vigilante he is just gonna get shot by the first thug he sees.
Thank you again
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>>2470338
Fuckin Hell dude! Save some pussy for the rest of us after the apocalypse.
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Put
Tongue
On
Mask
Now
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>>2460236
If you are not disqualified from owning one, i would give you one firearm for the price of shipping and transfer.
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>>2470362
honestly it's not that much work. Most time is used for letting it cure 2 days each time after applying epoxy. I also had zero exoerience, never worked with these materials before. Closest similiar thing was using a type of polyester resin together with cotton vlies in roof repair.
>>2470416
anon... pls
>>2470512
am german, living in germany. don't have any gun licence. but a revolver would be cool, a mateba or top break. you know the first time I've seen the concept of a bullet resistant mask was in the ps2 game 'Black'. some enemies in the later stages also carry a shield and revolver, that was the coolest shit ever.
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>>2470657
Damn that takes me back. I remember one of the last levels driving me insane trying to beat it. It was like the a.I. was adaptive and guys had like super armor. I remember the end being somewhat anticlimactic after lots of struggle. Damn that was like 18 years ago? 17? Good grief.
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>>2470657
The tongue is your protection
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>>2470338
this is behond great holy shit my sides!
you have created a absulute masterpeice.
maybe i should fallow in your footsteps OP
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>>2460236
Upgrade and reinforce your doors and windows and buy a damn gun you donkey. All the homemade "bulletproof" body armour in the world won't save you when someone kicks through your apartment's pressboard door and mag dumps you while you stand there holding a mop handle looking like a retarded fiberglass hobo-knight.

If you don't have a gun license, get one. There is no excuse, and you will not win a firefight if you don't have a gun lol
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>>2470896
>Upgrade and reinforce your doors and windows
door is thick and smoke proof with extra lock on the inside, this apartment is build in 2019 with modern requirements. windows aren't ground level
>buy a damn gun
pachinko blunderbuss lmao
>you donkey
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

Am tired, front and back plate have the straps e6000'd on gonna try to wear them tomorrow. Fridays are my short work days, gonna buy more beanz for the stash. I take a full shopping cart straight home, it even fits in the elevator. From the store directly infront of the fridge lulz. No worries I return it every time and usually forgot something to buy my wife told me too anyways so I can pick it the second time. What else should I duc tape on my helmet? A red laser dot on the left side?

Warning! Warning! Target aquired! Protect the cyber beans protocol activated!

Damn i love beans
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>>2470929
If you're buying a shopping cart full of beans tomorrow, there better be some fucking pictures loaded up soon. Bitte.
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>>2471236
>Log update - codename B.E.A.N.S.
>Archieved visual footage send via neural transmitters
>Day 12 - 23:53 - Bean facility
Subject is guarding the beans, this whole project showes postive results.
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>>2471277
That's what's up Mech-Bean suit anon!
Reminds me of the old Robocop movies.
Next step is thermal cameras.
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>front plate
belt is tempoarily, instead of adding padding, I gonna wear a makeshift gambersone beneath or what it's called. back plate pressures too much
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>>2471555
>backplate
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>>2471557
all natty. mirin' allowed.
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>>2471555


is this all just a fetish thing?

has suspiciously strong gimp energy
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>>2471573
i dont get it
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>>2471595
Try "the gimp pulp fiction"
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>>2471652
Try "the gimp san andreas"
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>>2471671
Try "the gimp postal 2"
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>>2471652
>>2471671
>>2471673
ah yea it's gonna be SM all right. Problem is, there is no save word.
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>>2471555
if you took off that mask, would you die?
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>>2471555
Why does the back look like you used a sack of potatoes as a template?
Do you have to hide this project from friends and family out of embarrassment or do they know and actively assist in its construction?
Is an alternative use for the suit to audition to be the newest member of Slipknot?
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If you put a mouth with a felt tongue it would look so terrifying no one would shoot they'd just die out of fear
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>>2471811
see
>>2463740
the uneven surface results from the porcelain shards. This new glass filament, both the heavy and light one + the new epoxy is opague. I don't know why. With the mask I used my first materials, it's more see trough hence you can see the tape and individual shards. Slipknots only cool song is psychosocial, fite me
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>>2456332

You should hook up some sort of battery operated fan on a switch that blows fresh air under your mask. I have a computer fan in my fursuit head that pulls fresh air in through the mouth and its so nice.
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>>2471828
"Fite" you? Why? You look like Mortis the safety tortoise. I'll just wait until you trip and then leisurely walk away.

Also, what's the plan for your hands? Spiked gloves? Or, maybe find some old Powergloves on eBay and wire in your cameras into it. That would be "so bad!"
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>>2471960
>my fursuit
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Some guy threw a working vacuum cleaner away on the street, the end part you put on the tube is missing. Exactly what I needed to clean up my cellar, that was in dire need.

>>2472470
>>2472474
but furries and cosplayers gave me good inspiration.
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>>2456332
A (You) from /pol/
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oh well. Wanted to finally adhere straps to every armor piece. Ran almost completely out of E6000 and not only that but also it's container ripped open. So I could only put down the side straps of both front and back and 4 straps for both upper legs. I've only enough glue left for maybe one more piece.

The straps of the lower legs and arms will be bolted on I guess. This should make it way easier to affix the steel screen mesh trough which I will put the nails. Speaking about the nails, I placed them in a bowl with a water cholrine cleaner solution for them to rust faster. Partially looks, but also +17 poision dmg.

I think I gonna make a triangle crotch plate, then connect it with 2 straps and bolts to the breast armour. Shoulder armor would decrease my arm movement drastically, so I will maybe only make a small upper arm piece if anything. Then it should be done fod now, losing my ambition

I want to thank thermo plastic anon and soap bar on polycarbonat anon, you were the best information contributions by far. Tongue anon gtfo
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>>2472674
It's because no felt tongue on your mask. The universe is punishing you.
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>>2467104
ammonia softens the surface of PC and will cause it to fog
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>>2468432
short answer is using a vacuum form table.
saw it on mythbusters
check adam savages channel on how to form plastic, i'm sure he covers it
there are many ways to form plastic with heat
your oven is halfway
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>>2472870
I've seen vacuum forming on thin plastic sheet, but if he's doing that on pieces of acrylic or polycarbonate thick enough to be bullet-resistant, that's damn impressive.
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>>2471960
It better be a cool species.
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man... Everything worked so well, adhered the straps on torso armor, cut 2 pieces from my old camping mat for padding, taped it on, wore armor. Then I tried out how strong the e6000 holds and with only a bit of strong pulling it came apart.

I think my fault was I wanted to stretch my glue out, so in the end, this singular tube of e6000 wasn't nearly enough, probably would need 4 more atleast for all straps. It's good adherement, but you gotta squirt it good.

2 options now, either epoxy or bolts. I think I gonna use bolts, epoxy becomes too stiff.
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>>2456332
serial killer core
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>>2456332
How do I make my own ceramic plates? I already have a pair but they’re pretty heavy
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OP should buy an extremely light weight set of coveralls that has packets of stop wound powder sewn into it so if he gets hurt he will not bleed out.
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>>2456332
michael myers wants to know your location
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>>2473677
to defend my family from montsers, I must become an even more gruesome monster

>>2473773
www.youtube.com/c/Techthisoutmeow

my biggest inspiration, knew of glass fibre + epoxy resin as method quite earlier, but this guy put the info together the best

>>2473795
haha auto stimpacks

>>2473888
bean facility

from asking around and gathering info, there seems only 3 options. Drill trough plate and connect straps. Adhere straps again. Sew a carrier and insert plate.

Since making it as cheap as possible, drilling 4 holes and connecting the straps with 4 bolts, washers and nuts seems the cheapest solution. E6000 is too expensive for what it is and sewing or atleast costumizing a plate carrier would also be expensive. My sewing machine can't even handle thick jeans. Adhering the straps with epoxy seems also a bad idea, it would probably rip at the very section where it's not epxoid. I even got some epoxy drops on one of my mask's straps from sloppy work, this tiny bit made it there stiff and almost brittle.
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>>2473773
Ceramic plates are not heavy exercise more.
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>>2471555
>"mom, we're out of pizza rolls again."
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/k's pfg archieved

>>>/k/55381728
good question, I want to give techthisoutmeow a bit more time he seems buisy. I just hope he'll get to it eventually, am even donating to his patreon

>>>/k/55384272
see pic, detailed it in #1 but dunno how to archieve it on such archieving sites. I got it saved as pdf and pngs. Great way for me to keep track of my epoxy measurements, progress and especially great info from some anons. I treat it like an open diary.

quality suffered heavily of that pic, doing this on my phone with stupid online programs
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>>2474490
hey that turned out nice, preview was totally pixelated
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>>2465246
there it is, fellas
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>>2459368
for goggles i would just pick up two sets of construction gogles, remove the rim and hot glue the rim together. and then put a layer of scratch resistant gorilla glass screen protector on the front and a water repelling phone protector screen on the inside.

are you also planning on building an weight bearing exoskeleton to wear with the armor so you keep you joints and tendons safe?
or even a elastic loaded one to cushion some of the weight while standing/walking?

> thats my current exoskeleton build. i'm gonna restructure the knee and torso for better stability soon.

for the face i would go with a more classic shape instead of a anatomic mask (ballistic jaw guard, large field of view gogles, impact cage on top)
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>>2461647
some ventilation holes in the mask, with metal mesh on top, would help breathability with the mask.
heavy armor always needs to consider stamina, air, heat and comfort.

is the helmet hearing protection compatible?

i would recomend a neck cushion so impacts on the helmet or other accelerations can't overextend your neck.
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>>2464623
these nails are too long for stable aiming and for not getting in the way. there are also too many, which distribute force too much.

look at sword breakers and pain spikes. a better version is more batman-esque.
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>>2466955
he mixed hair dresser supplies and store bought resins in an unknown fashion which resulted in a foam like porous material that is sturdy. possibly an aramid foam. probably highly toxic, flamableor some other shit though.
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>>2473795
wound powder, tampons, powdered antibiotics and powdered meth. every wound makes him more batshit.
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>>2474576
damn that's cool, you seem very knowledgable. I don't plan on making an exoskeleton, it's not that heavy and I certainly won't march miles while wearing it. True my mask isn't optimaly formed, especially the eyes, they're going inwards and thus things could slide into my eyes. Made the visor. Yesterday my new polycarbonat came as I want to make a new one, two pieces 1cm + 1cm thickness.
>>2474577
breathing isn't an issue, dunno about hearing protection didn't plan on putting any on. Infact I want to hear every small noise, like somebody trying to pick my door's lock.
>>2474579
I wanted to cut some down to get different lengths. Also wanted to have a blade on both arm armor pieces which over extend my elbow, would look sick.

Apart from this, I'm almost certain that tonight I will drill the holes to bolt the straps on, given if I'm not too tired to drill straight. Unless you got a better idea. Once you have a partner and kids you realize how valuable your own time is.
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>>2474594
there is hearing protection with a pressure based lock, so only loud things close the channel. sport shooter hearing protection works like that. and there is some with external microphones.

with short time relaxed movement, a mask is not in the way for breathing. with hard labour, we need far more air.
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>>2466955
If only he had the armor on during the crash...



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