Let's watch macho Doug's pet project crumble before his eyes. Status: house of cards is TEETERING. Total collapse imminent!Rules:No ableismNo racismNo sexismReminder to keep things clean and friendly!Previous: >>2201566
Has fluid simulator Anon done his model yet? Curious to see whether the whole boat would crumple in anything heavier than river water.
>>2205331Unless the welds are so catastrophically shit they instantly give way and unless the engine claps out before leaving port, it'll mosey on down the river until it either gets stuck on a sand bar because charts are for pansies or it actually reaches the ocean and gets scuppered by the first gust of wind in its sails.
>>2205328What's with the reddit-teir OP?
>>2205405OP is the nigger jew faggot that has been shitting up the previous thread and got triggered by a word by taking it out of context like the little delicate snowflake he is. Don't mind him, he's just our retarded little mascotte, he can be fun, look:*AHEM*Doug is an arrogant sexist piece of shit
>>2205416Then why didn’t he smack his wife?
>>2205419Because he's a pussy pretending to be tough by removing his angle grinder's guard and bragging on the Internet about how it only injures him once a year.
What is Doug even going to do with his boat if he makes it out of the river?
>>2205426He's going to offer it "for free" to "research teams" to do "research" "mostly in the arctic"
>>2205357haha would love to see his face when his mast peals like a banana>>2205405What's wrong with reddit?
>>2205405previous thread was shit due to some fags>>2205357he has charts and that tugboat captain that said his project went to shit
>>2205416Sir this is a wendy's
>>2205443What's a wendy's?
>>2205437>What's wrong with reddit?It's where half of tumblr when after the purge.The default front page is now 80% bitching about muh white men and "transphobia"
>>2205328>Rules:>No ableism>No racism>No sexismYou sound like you were raised by your mother.
>>2205419>>2205422>Forcing her to show face and record a video for YouTube announcing their divorce>that really weird nervousness throughoutI wouldn't be surprised if he hit his wife.
>>2205526you sound like you didn't read the last thread
>>2205328>Rules:>No ableism>No racism>No sexism>Reminder to keep things clean and friendly!Go back to twitter
>>2205483At least the porn they produce is good.
>>2205357Gonna be that guy - "Scuppered" is intentional sinking. The word you need here is "capsize". And throw in "catastrophically", for funsies. I like the word "turtle", because that's what that barge is gonna do.
>>2205357Does anyone know how tall the masts are? I want to do some calculations to work out how much force will be exerted. Also lever angles: how are the masts secured? Do they meet the bottom?>>2205526>>2205548>>>/pol/
>>2205331tl;dr it's pretty boring.Basically he either has someone more or less competent on structural design or follows some guidelines made by one, and only pretends to be retarded on camera for views and to dab on haters and doomers when she gets to the water. I mean it's hard to believe they decide to put some random ribs and reinforcements here and there just because Doug thought it'd look cool and then they happen to cover the weak spots in just about the right way every time (I did some sim runs as I was building the model interior and this is exactly what happened). So the question now is does the execution follow suit or will Doug's creative and adventurous manufacturing techniques still spell her undoing.Anyways, as far as the model goes there doesn't seem to be anything too wrong with the hull structurally to just float in not even very calm waters (it doesn't tell anything about balancing, stability, actually sailing and stuff like that though).
>>2205567>Armed with the specifications for a steel mast, I sent those to Rob at Architectural Lighting, an Oklahoma distributor for Shakespeare Composite Structures, to have them find an equivalent wound fiberglass. >I got this reply back from Rob: “The regional sales manager just emailed me stating that Shakespeare does not manufacture poles for this application. Sorry.”>I just love it when some douche bag decides I cannot buy their product for my application.lol
>>2205563The more important question is how much ballast he has to counteract very heavy masts. Old sailing ships carried a fuck ton of ballast so they wouldn't tip over (which is why that scene in that Pirates of the Caribbean is such bullshit), so Dougs gonna have to have an ass ton of ballast in an already overweight pig of a barge, to keep upright. Let alone sail. Or if his sails will be big enough for the mass of the pig. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. We still need to see if that pig floats, if it doesn't leak, and if he can get 10 nautical miles down the river without ramming everything along the way, because he's on one prop, and no bow thrusters, in an overweight metal pig. We have plenty of entertainment ahead of us. There are massive points of failure at every point along the way. With any luck we'll get most of them at once - the interior burning after the batteries blowing up, with the engine seized, the transmission in a million pieces, while the metal pig sinks from water flooding into the hold from rips in the hull, and the big hole where the masts were, before a strong wind ripped them out.This saga will end with Doug red faced and bellowing "You're gonna quit that easily?!?!" before sinking to the bottom, dead. Hopefully his idiot crew will escape.
>>2205577>This saga will end with Doug red faced and bellowing "You're gonna quit that easily?!?!" before sinking to the bottom, dead. Hopefully his idiot crew will escape.damn I can't fucking wait
>>2205575Yeah businesses are weird like that - they don't like it when some douchebag uses their product for something it's not intended for and then his bereaved family sues (or at least tries to sue) the fuck out of them.
>>2205575Rob from Architectural Lighting was obviously raised by a woman.
>>2205550I dunno, most people looking at this would say he intended to sink it because a reasonable person would not expect this to float
>>220557715 tons of solid lead split between the two keels
>>2205596Doug why do you keep coming here?
You just know this thing won’t have life rafts, and the “lifeboat” will be that tender thing
>>2205574>as far as the model goes there doesn't seem to be anything too wrong with the hull structurally to just float in not even very calm watersAs a friend matematician once said me: "Every model is wrong, but yours is stupid". Can you share the details of your model? It's clear you used the first formula to model the pressure distribution, but I'd like to know what the rest of the conditions are. How did you model the hull? Did you assume an isotropic material (is the steel alloy even known?) without any preload?I just want to add my two cents: static design is all well and good, but when you start taking into account dynamic loads and, more importantly, fatigue things get complicated.
>>2205575Rob felt the fear and did not even do it anyways. He's just over there feeling fear. I pity Rob and the woman who raised him.
New thread did the boat sink yet?
>>2205638>is the steel alloy even known?I'm not a ship building engineer but i guess it's similar to most buildings you don't want to be even close to plastic deformation so as long as phosphor and sulfur contents are low enough and it's weldable any steel will do. People certainly used worse stuff 100 years ago. >more importantly, fatigueIt's not aluminium. So for the most part you just don't care. It's not a helicopter rotorhead or some rocket part. Just a simple steel hull will easily do if you just need a pontoon. But that's like 0.2% the way to a decent boat. Even a hot tub will float or a bathtub will do as a uboat to some degree. Sailing it across an ocean is a whole different animal.
>>2205543If you had read it, you'd know I was making a Doug joke.
>>2205663i don't carejust pretend I replied to anyone else who said the same thing you did
>>2205638Naturally it's far from being perfect. The Doug's hull measurements from the earlier thread don't quite line up, and the rest of the available documentation and reference material is plain disaster. It technically isn't even folded from a sheet, though it should be close enough in most places that matter. Basically after plotting the hull data and deck measurements I guesstimated with a ruler from the build videos I fiddled with curves and cross-sections until I got something close enough, then lofted the whole mess, put in bulkheads, main hold bilge framing and floor, speed hole cargo mounts and mermaid headcrackers and that was basically it. Of course it's modeled as a uniform piece of material ("plan carbon steel" from the standard library which probably coincides with the most detailed description of what Doug used we can possibly get) with no welds or internal stresses the real one has, also I had to model it as a shell and not a solid body because my soid mesh generator really hates thin curved bodies unless I set the mesh size so small that it takes a good half a day to solve it (or decide that the solver doesn't want to do it after all and throw an error), hence some mesh element-sized hot spot artefacts at surface bodies contact. The nose also lacks some reinforcement the real one has and is probably a bit wrong shape, so the red spot there is safe to ignore.>dynamic loadsThe formula has at least some of it baked in because it includes derating coefficients depending on service area (I took the harshest one cause why the fuck not) and the resulting pressures are way higher than static calm water pressure (that barely even makes any green color on the model at the same stress scale).There are separate chapters on different types of dynamic loads but I didn't go there yet because there's a lot of math and the first thing I wanted to know was can she float at all - to which I was rather skeptical.
>>2205676No....no....this cannot be the case. There were many reasonable, well reasoned posts, in the last thread. Why are you saying this? Why are you doing this? Please, we know what will happen, Doug will sink the boat, it will crumple like a paper bag, as it has been said. Are you arguing with what we decided last fucking thread? WhO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? DOUG WILL SINK, YOU FUCKING HERE ME. HE'S GOING TO FUCKING SINK! THAT DA<MN BAOAT IS GOING TO TYHE BOTTOM OF THE FUCKING WATERS YOPU FUCKINGE HEAR ME
>>2205681Jesus Christ Doug you’re really going ham on the scarecrows
>>2205676Can you explain that in layman's terms for me and the other short bus idiots spectating? What did you learn?
>>2205681Well I did hold back until someone asked because putting the whole thread on suicide watch is not my kind of entertainment. But anyways I believe it's good for both haters and supporters to know that Doug's fucking with ya.
>>2205686Basically if it doesn't capsize at launch and the chicken shit welds won't pop then it probably won't sink until retards on board drive it into the storm.
>>2205686He learned that he neglected to model the most important stuff: dynamic loads including the mast.
>>2205661>It's not aluminium. So for the most part you just don't care. It's not a helicopter rotorhead or some rocket part.Steel fails too. And I wager the incessant battering of the waves can be as damaging as any cyclic load. >>2205676Interesting, thanks.>with no welds or internal stresses the real one hasMy main concern here is that the folding, which in essence is a plastic deformation, reduced the yield strength in a place, the fold edge, where stresses concentrate. The same can be said for the welds, which under normal circumstances are the strongest part of a piece, but we're talking about Doug and his ragtag of free workforce here. >I had to model it as a shell and not a solidConsidering the ratio between thickness and overall size it's a fair simplification to make.>or decide that the solver doesn't want to do it after all and throw an errorYou using PATRAN?>the first thing I wanted to know was can she float at all - to which I was rather skeptical.Fair enough. I was skeptical too, but as I wrote already I think that, with the only supports being the fore and aft trolleys, the load condition during the move was the most severe, which it passed. That said, since then they added the cabin on top, and the added weight is not insignificant. Still, under a purely structural level, my concern now is for dynamic loads especially while underway.
>>2205693TWO. MORE. WEEKS.
>>2205676Did you remember to add the 15 tons of lead in the two keels?
>the FEA software comes back with no errors
>>2205676>>2205574Could you try finding the minimum thickness of steel required before it would fail?
>>2205419Oh he did. Trust me. Are you not a patreon ship's crew? If you're not then get off this ship of a thread. We only have dedicated deck hands here mate! #FTFADIA
>>2205703>implying a successful computation means the SVS being a sound design>implying positive correlation between a successful computation and the validity of the results it spits out>implying I'm not answering seriously to some low tier shitposting
>>2205563Oh eat a dick you sensitive faggot. I'm sure many readers here frequent PoL. This isn't your safe space. If you have to tell others to go back, you yourself need to go back to your circlejerk plebbit. Shut the fuck up and get along with the rest of the Doug bashers. #Ftfadia
>>2205693I'm sorry I disappointed you.>>2205696>My main concern here is that the folding, which in essence is a plastic deformation, reduced the yield strength in a place, the fold edge, where stresses concentrate.I fully agree, but there are so many unknowns that I don't want to even bother thinking about modeling it to any degree of accuracy.>You using PATRAN?Solidworks>Still, under a purely structural level, my concern now is for dynamic loads especially while underway.From the testing I did stresses start to get to a concerning level at around 2 ton force per square meter applied to the hold side wall (on the pic above it's somewhere between 0.6 to 1 in that area).>>2205700Gravity isn't even accounted for in these simulations. We're not actually dunking the ship into the water but rather applying a standardized pressure distribution (several times higher than she would experience from just sitting in calm water) to the exposed surfaces that the smart and experienced people decided would be a good approximation of what ship would experience in the sea on average and must be able to take to be considered seaworthy.>>2205708You probably can get quite close to literal tinfoil since a lot of heavy lifting can be done by internal reinforcement ribs. But as you go thinner buckling becomes a major failure mode and given the accuracy of the model results become useless pretty fast.
>>2205733In b4 doug uses these drawings in his insurance application
>>2205745One of the reasons I held back from posting it lel cause I'm sure some of his fans are lurking here
>>2205689If they get it to colder waters on their way to the Arctic and the hull contracts front the temp change it will break
>>2205747See look at these full 3d lbstress models of my boat by...Some guy on the internet probably
>>2205744>internal reinforcement ribsAnon those ribs are only on the gunwales, not the rest of the hull. The ones in the boat are decorative.
>>2205328>No ableismFuck cripples and retards>No racismFuck niggers and spics>No sexismFuck women and trannies>Reminder to keep things clean and friendly!Fuck you
>>2205748The built-in pre-stressing is designed to deal with antarctic thermal stresses.
>>2205764I think it's fair to give the hypothetical boat more support than we've seen. With how shitty Doug presents the boat in his videos, it's entirely possible he left something out or we're not dedicated enough to sift through all his shitty videos to find certain details. And giving his design the benifet of the doubt will just be all the funnier if his boat fails immediately and even *we* weren't expecting it to.
>>2205744can Solidworks account for cold embrittlement here?how does the hull fare at ~0°C, since the plan is to sail in arctic/antarctic waters?
>>2205806>can Solidworks account for cold embrittlement here?That's something the engineer has to do, not the software. A quick and easy FEA just calculates the strain and stresses on the material given load and boundary conditions, with A LOT of assumptions all around; your average FEM model on a static simulation will happily return deformations and stresses far beyond failure of the structure because it likely works under the assumption of small deformations. Material properties are something that the software can't assume on its own and must be defined beforehand, however we barely know the kind of steel Doug used so whatever happens to the strain-stress curve as a function of temperature is pure speculation. I'm not familiar with cold embrittlement, but even assuming that the yeld strength doesn't change, you still want to design to be nowhere near that condition if you can afford it. Still, the thing with brittle materials is their fatigue life under dynamic loads, something that a static FEA just won't show you.
>>2205748>If they get it to colder waters on their way to the Arctic and the hull contracts front the temp change it will breakIf it's not heavily reinforced inside it will just deform. Mild steel is gummy stuff. >can Solidworks account for cold embrittlement here?Same thing. That will play a role below -50°C and i doubt that artic WATER ever gets there. >>2205892>That's something the engineer has to do, not the software.>under the assumption of small deformations.Solely depends on the software/code you're using. It doesn't make any sense though to include that if not even the basic geometry is known. Those basic simulations will be enough to show that it swims, won't capsize and hold up to some weather. Fatigue can play a role in ships (and sunk a few) when heavy loads are not supported correctly but there isn't any relevant load in his ship besides the keels. Like i said this is not a rotorhead or some highly engineered mechanism. Most things made with mild steel are massively overengineered. If it is overloaded at launch it deforms and lives on with a new shape. Not capsizing or sinking at launch is one thing. It doesn't make it a good ship and there are thousands of things to go wrong at a later time.
>>2205550Isn't that scuttling? Turtling is an unlikely outcome, of all the problems with the seether at least top heavy isn't one.
>>2205661>Even a hot tub will float or a bathtub will do as a uboat to some degree.The spicy part is when a poorly welded hull meets a storm out on the ocean. That kind of thing is REALLY hard to model. And, you have to model a piss poor captain like Doug, who will do the exact wrong things in a storm. Like not trying to steam through one.
>>2205748That won't matter much after ice floes and icebergs punch holes in it. You can sail to the poles in normal sailboats in the right seasons, but in the wrong seasons shit goes bad, fast. But here I am, doubting that the steel pig even makes it to the ocean.
>>2205932Scupper is a drain in the bottom of a boat. Opening the scuppers is letting the boat sink by filling it with water. Same ending, different methods. And, that pig isn't top heavy? I disagree. I think if that barge ever gets near a storm or heavy winds, it's going over and not coming back up.
>>2205917>Same thing. That will play a role below -50°C and i doubt that artic WATER ever gets there.some steels have a transition temperature around the freezing point of watersee: liberty ships, the Titanic
>>2205949Zero doubt on the turtling if it encounters heavy seas.Hopefully it sinks in shallow water so we can enjoy ten years of a crazy hobo on a beach with a webcam nigger rigging a salvage barge out of abandoned junk.
>>2205945>icebergs punch holes in it>>2206000>the TitanicIsn't the Seeker light enough to be nudged off a berg instead of tearing the hull?
>>2205764I thought so as well but apparently they do provide quite a bit of support. >>2205806I don't think there's a feature for this, but you can probably cheat it by creating a custom material with the relevant properties set to that of a steel at desired temperature and it should give you fairly accurate results as long as the entire part stays close to it. Anyways 0°C is not an issue for modern low carbon steel with controlled amount of alloying elements causing brittleness and I don't see this dinghy ever getting anywhere it is with someone still on board. There's no insulation or heating to speak of so even the most braindead idiots will start getting second thoughts once it gets close to freezing temps.
>>2205328>No ableism>No racism>No sexismEat my dick niggerfaggot
>>2205549>At least the porn they produce is good.How do you think they make more troons? Stop now for your own good.
>>2205596That's the same amount as what we put in out 34 foot sailboats lmao
>>2205676>put in bulkheads/diy assured me there were no bulkheadsdid these incels lie about Doug again?
>>2206109Yes. These threads have been mostly BS.
>>2206111NiceJust signed up for the "Sailing Master" tier on Patreon!
>>2206111Does anyone know why bracing is missing from this area?
>>2206074>There's no insulation or heating to speakthe 2 layers (2-3 inches?) of foam might not be enough for a steel boat, surebut seeker has as much heating as other cold-weather boats I've seen
>>2206116because Doug ran out of pieces of scrap angle iron long enough
Any good pics of the structural hull welds?
>>2206130Be patientTheyll be public record in the accident report
Say Doug is going down the river on the seeker and it bonks a barge without doing any actual damage. What sort of paperwork is involved?
>>2206136If the hull is retrieved or videoed by submersible anyway.
>>2206141>without doing any actual damage.The barge operator will claim damage so the Coast Guard will be involved. So I hope Doug gets his paperwork settled.
>>2206194The marine survey report should be dropping soon.
Has this guy ever come up here before?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YAPcPTKkHsHe built a steel boat, that actually floats. But he must have been raised by a woman, because he engineered the boat before doing a single weld, and seems to have done everything right, so he didn't feel any fear, so it shouldn't have worked out for him, unlike Doug. I bet he cheated and was accepted by the insurance agents and inspectors, too, the weakling. (I love his accent, it's like Borat, building a boat.) (Float very fine, no jews on the water, very good!)
>>2206348Mothafuckers using folding measuring sticks!
>>2206423the superior measuring device
>>2205428The arctic? I don't remember him saying that but haven't watched all the videos. The boat is very much not built for arctic seas. Shallow draft twin keel, single hull, single propulsion system, unarmored/reinforced bow, junk rig, 1/2" of foam insulation with no heating system, no HF radio, etc.
>>2206116That's where the hatches and hot tub are.
>>2206563 Fugg me boad t. Doug
>>2206510>The arctic? I don't remember him saying that but haven't watched all the videos.all I remember was it was in a recent video, I'll try to find it again
>>2206117>seeker has as much heating as other cold-weather boats I've seenWhat do they have aside from the main engine?>2 layers (2-3 inches?) of foamHeating or not, without proper insulation (and ventilation) they're going to face a massive condensation problem whenever it's cold outside. It's no different from a house in that regard and you don't just throw a huge heater and half-ass the rest there (and not only due to code or fuel/heating costs)
>>2206604Don't feel obligated. If it was a recent video it'd explain why I've not heard him say it. He's green as shit to think Seeker could handle the Arctic. Will be interesting to see him in a year or two.
tldr on the situation? Last I heard he couldn't get insurance because of the jews so no one was willing to launch the boat.
>>2206675He still can't. He claims a solution is in the works but what's really happening is him going through 10 years worth of creative freedom backfiring on him because he can't prove his boat is anywhere close to being seaworthy with no plans or specs or math done in existence, and handwaving and insults don't work anymore now that he's out of his backyard.
>>2206675So the shipmaster came to him, and said unto him, What meanest thou, O sleeper? arise, call upon thy God, if so be that God will think upon us, that we perish not.
>>2206510Not necessarily the arctic but just colder waters, I remember it from talks about insulation/AC that they plan to sail in colder waters where they shouldn't need AC.
>>2206348>6mm shipbuilding steelDoug don't look..!
general is dead because Doug is proving you wrong lmao
is it in the water yet
>>2207262Oh? Is it in the water?
>>2203944 >>2203962 >>2203977 >>2203951 >>2204260 >>2205204 >>2205226 >>2205258The most ridiculous thing out of the last thread: In order to perform any service on one of his boat's two transmissions, that he got off a pallet, which was originally from a retired schoolbus, after a decade of wear, and which has a torque converter, he needs to -1) remove the entire pilot house2) disconnect all of his hydraulics and his only generator,3) completely remove said engine/generator,4) remove the mounts for the engine/generator,4.5) possibly pull the entire fucking main engine for the boat, just to be able to5) pull the entire transmission out of the boat.6) service transmissionsasuga, doug
>>2207408Why are you lying, Anon?
>>2207408"You're gonna quit that easily? You were raised by a woman. We have paddles. Someone made paddles, right? Hey, guys?" ~ Doug, probably.
>>2207408fuck he needs to take the pilot house out? what kind of regular maintenance does the engine and transmission require? things like oil changes. i hope he has an external dipstick.
>>2207423You can probably maintain the engines fine. I've been in a few engine compartments on boats, it's pretty cramped, normally. You only need to pull the engine if you're having the short block worked on, which isn't often - how often do you get your block, pistons and crank worked on? The problem is the transmission. You can't really work on them, attached to the engine, even in a car. A good transmission should get a couple hundred thousand miles on it, before a rebuild, especially if it was on a school bus. But it should have been rebuilt before installing it, just in case. (You rarely get motor pool records of fleet vehicles to show a bus's maintenance history, unless you buy it from a school district and the pool manager has the records.) Most of the maintenance on a diesel can be done without removing the engine. Diesels are pretty tough - go watch Diesel Creek, that dude gets old Cat engines that have been sitting for 30 years running again. The engine may be the one thing Doug gets lucky on.
>>2207423>regular maintenanceThere's no need, nothing's gonna happen and there are sails anyways. Don't be like those weak neverdoers and focus on small things. It's not important.
>>2207431>there are sails anywaysA junk rig cannot sail to wind ward and Doug doesn't know how to sail. Relying on sail only is purely a romantic idea and you a gigantic faggot.
>>2207519>A junk rig cannot sail to wind wardSource? Wikipedia says that medieval Chinese junks were able to sail closer to the wind than the European equivalents at the time. What are you comparing it to?
>>2207423>take the pilot house out?It’s lightweight aluminum and can be done with just a single crane.
>>2207428^This, and transmissions are easy enough to reseal and throw in fresh clutch packs locally. Of course being a boat he could have used a manual gearbox which would have been far more rugged (and truck trans abound with various gear counts). They don't need vulnerable external cooling either. Boatbuilder Gustav did a much better job in all respects and took far less time. His engine bay is an orderly delight and it's easy for him to pull the engine without excess work, demonstrated by the installation video.
>>2207529>than the European equivalents at the timeBut it's the current year. Modern rigs are much better at sailing upwind than junk rigs. Also a traditional junk has a traditional keel. Seeker has bilge keels which allow more leeway which is not good for windward approaches.
>>2207408You obviously don't need to take the pilot house off to remove the transmission or engine. It's all right there and easily accessible. The cross braces above it are removable and there's a giant hatch in the middle of the deck to lift things in/out.
>>2207537Sure, but you also have to take into account the fatass riding the load.
>>2207537Oh yeah just call up a crane when your transmission goes out in some third world shit hole or in the artic. Sure he can probably source another bus transmission easily, but hiring a crane is the tricky part.
>>2207529Are you comparing a junk to square or lateen rig? Pretty much all modern sail boats are Bermuda rigged. The I look at these threads the more I realize Doug never intended for this thing to launch.
>>2207652That last party video reminded me of a nervous cocktail party in Berlin, March 1945.
>>2207649Indeed. A well-designed vessel would incorporate a much easier way to remove engines and gearboxes. Anyone who has pulled similar engines and truck transmissions knows that could be done with a simple manual jib crane also useful for loading and unloading cargo. Everything between the engine and deck should be designed (forethought is free) for fast, easy maintenance like a race truck and could use similar engine mounting concepts at no additional cost.
>>2207519>junk rig cannot sail to wind wardThat's just wrong. A junk rig is less efficient sailing upwind than a bermuda-rigged sail, but that's because bermuda-rigged sails are designed to be good at sailing to windward at the exclusion of all else. They're complicated, expensive, and not as good sailing downwind as a junk rig. Like literally every other aspect of boat design, every choice has its strengths and weaknesses. A bermuda rig is an excellent choice for races, but lots of home builders prefer lug or junk rigs because they're easier to build and trim yourself, and need fewer lines. Strengths and weaknesses.
>bermuda rig>lug rig>junk rigPretty familiar with this project now, never seen a sail.
>>2207674>Anyone who has pulled similar engines and truck transmissions knows that could be done with a simple manual jib craneI'm in the middle of an engine swap on a sailboat and a simple chainfall attached to the boom made this 10x easier then fucking around with a crane or forklift with a stinger.
>>2205328Rules are for wyppl.Taking bets for how long before Doug takes his pranks to the next level and arranges pirates to hold him for ransom.
>>2207674>A well-designed vessel would incorporate a much easier way to remove engines and gearboxes.The funny thing is that it's really easy to make it infinitely easier to work on them without the need of disassembling half the ship: he could cut a hole in the bulkhead, which would be closed off by a plate bolted on it) and put the engine and transmission on rails, and whenever he has to work on them he can just unbolt the cover, unbolt the shaft, slide the engine-transmission assembly in the cargo bay with minimal effory, and lift it with the crane he already has.
>>2207738Cool having your "jib crane" be an actual "jib". Boaters have lots of useful rigging gear, paints, epoxies (love West epoxy and 3M 5200) and components every mechanic and gearhead should explore. I use fiddle blocks with my tree rope to preload trees before falling.
>>2207756Bonus, that "access hatch" would be removable for other maintenance and easy to seal. Engines on rails are a very old aircraft idea (F-16 is an example) and work fine under brutal loads. I'd do it aircraft panel style with faying sealant bonded to the hatch and with the bulkhead sprayed with mold release or covered with cling wrap at the gasket surface so the access panel would be easy to pull. Stainless bolts or studs with anti-seize and metal lock nuts would work a treat. Rails would let the outermost component be removed separately if desired with the inboard item (engine, gearbox, giant dildo) left mounted and hold them for easy remounting. A long career of working on shit designed by people who hate technicians made me this way...
>>2207763>Engines on rails are a very old aircraft ideaIt's even older than that: I believe most if not all WWII American tanks implemented this feature.
>>2207787Often using contemporary aircraft engines too like that Wright. I've never worked old recip birds so no idea if any of those also used rails (which would have been shorter of course) to make for quick alignment during swaps.
>>2207796Pic showing the red rocker covers (red made them less likely to be left off after field maintenance, the average education level back then wasn't much but there were lots of farm boys who could turn a wrench):https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_R-975_Whirlwind#/media/File:Wright_R-975_f%C3%BCr_Sherman-Panzer.jpg
>>2207756Eh. Overengineering, at best - a well maintained engine won't need to be removed very often, and most maintenance can be done without yanking it out.One (of many) issues with how his engine is installed is fire suppression. You don't want a mess of pipes and angle iron in the way if you need to put a fire out. Fires on boats are a really big deal - and we know Doug's attitude towards that. (ie. no fire suppression systems) "But it's gonna be impossible to work on, even for routine maintenance." - Doug doesn't care, he's expecting his internet moron helpers to do all that, while he's playing Captain Tyrant on the bridge. That whole wreck is engineered based on that.
>>2207797You do realize that the motor pool types working on those tanks were trained before deploying, they didn't just bus them from a farm to the battlefield. A whole generation of mechanics were trained by the services in WWII. And a whole generation of machinists. And, by all accounts, education was better in the 40s, even for "poor farmer" types, than kids these days. Most kids these days can't even hit a barn wall with a hammer.
>>2207822Don't blame the kids. In the 1940s the gov wanted the skilled labor. Now skills present a threat.
>>2207262The general is dying, but only because this project's next likely progression is directly to the scrapyard. I am interested to see what happens to Doug's channel and patrion once it becomes even more evident that nothing is happening. We have had nothing but rehashed stuff that's already happened and no real update other than people are working on it, a miracle should occur soon. Even the drones he's built are gonna start getting uppity once deer leader stops feeding them.
>>2207726He's built the sail, did a few videos on sewing it up (making some chump that showed up sew it up) but hes never actually put the masts on the boat or rigged it up to my knowledge. Can't wait till he gets on the water and tries to work it out for the first time should be fun to watch.
>>2207819>fire suppressionEvery commercial boat I worked on has a pump that runs off the main engine that pumps seawater through a fire hose for fire fighting. It also doubles as an emergency high volume bilge pump. Does Doug have anything like that?
If you told me 6 years ago that hot rod’s launch of the flyin hawaiian would be smoother and more successful than doug’s launch I would have thought you were lying
>>2207822My parents were borne in 1924/25 and my father (WWII), various relatives and of course most of the guys senior to me in the workforce were WWII or Korea vets. I'm highly familiar being a history fanatic born in 1960.There was desperate pressure to field troops ASAP and training was good for the era but it was quick and military tech schools were mostly far shorter than they are today. Primary education was often better but avoid rose-tinted spectacles and fauxstalgia as literacy was far from universal and many recruits were issued their first boots in Basic. Total war required using available clay...Quality control wasn't all that either and the US lost nearly as many aircraft in CONUS crashes as it did in combat! Flight training was short and between all those issues plus enemy fighters and flak, the Eighth Air Force in Europe had more KIA than the entire USMC. When you train millions of troops the best will be a rather large tranche of the total but we don't hear about those who weren't very good. (The Navy always had the best machinist and weldor schools and other services still send their troops to various Navy tech schools.) Young adults today are easy to train (I've trained many aviation techs) to work on much more complex modern systems and military tech schools are long enough and good enough to be effective. Tech data is far better too. The average person has zero need to spin wrenches and even long ago most took their cars to a "service station" (mostly long gone and converted to "gas stations" with their service bays closed today) for necessary minor work the much more frequent maintenance intervals required. Shit broke (much) more often coercing more owner involvement, but that didn't make everyone GOOD at tuneups.
>>2207970Yeah I think people imagine older generations as being really adept at machines and stuff because most of us probably know an older guy, like a grandparent, who's really good with this stuff and knows far more than most young people today, but those guys are the outlier not the normI think you're probably right that in the past there were more guys with a good foundational understanding of this stuff, but not too many with advanced knowledges, whereas today there's a greater dichotomy between people who know absolutely nothing and people with really advanced and in depth knowledge, in part due to how much technical knowledge has advanced over the last few decades and it being more widespread
>>2207927That's some real raised by a woman talk right there. If you were invested in his patron, you'd get the real inside scoop. Just join in if you want to know what cool shit Doug's up to.
>>2207819>Overengineering, at bestI disagree. Considering the layout of the boat, such a system comes at a very little manufacturing and complexity cost, and gives all the ease of maintenance. I don't mean you have to remove the engine every time you need to check the oil level, but IF you need to pull it out being able to do it effortlessly will be worth all the previous trouble. Beats having to remove the whole cabin.>a well maintained engine won't need to be removed very often, and most maintenance can be done without yanking it out.True, but eventually every engine will have to be serviced and having to tear down half the ship for that is bad no matter if you'll only do it once.We all know Doug's design philosophy, or lack thereof, and the SVS wouldn't be the mind bending shitshow it is if it wasn't for all the miriads of small and big retarded decisions Doug made along the way.>>2207943>Does Doug have anything like that?I recall two aliexpress electric motors driving some pumps, but those must be for they hydraulic lines, so I expect the bilge pump to be something designed for medium sized aquariums bought used off ebay.
>>2207970Literacy is still pretty piss poor
>>2206000>>2205917Ship building steel is specifically produced in such a way that it has the following properties:>High yield strength>High impact energy at low temperatures>Grain structure and chemistry suitable to weldingOff the top of my head, API 2H Grade 50 is guaranteed by testing to have charpy impacts at something like 40 J at -50C. It's really good stuff.Steels destined for cold weather ships have even more restricted properties because steel is always more brittle at low temperatures, the ship is always being cyclically loaded which induces fatigue, and the ocean hits really fucking hard.On top of all this, the weld procedures used in ship building have to be proven to produce joints that are just as strong and tough as the base metal. Anything less and the ship will break on the weld seam.Finally, arctic water can get a bit below 0C since it's a salt water solution. The air temperature above the water line definitely gets below 0C and can embrittle the structure.I know fuck all about this guy, and maybe he's taken this all into account. But I doubt it.
>>2207993>bilge pumpI believe he used drainage pumps from harbor freight>>2207998>maybe he's taken this all into accountHaha no, it's bog standard 1/4" hot rolled mild steel, probably the cheapest he could get, with some of the welds made by random people with literally zero welding experience because >eVeN a BAd weLD iS VerY StROng
>>2207593neither of them fit through the bulkhead door for the engine room, and there isn't enough room in the compartment to service them in-situ. The pilothouse was designed specifically to grant engine room access when removed exactly because doug never designed his doors to get the engine through. the floor of the pilothouse has the only access point to the engine room that's large enough to get the engine/tranny out, and on top of that they need the crane to remove either which also has to be dropped in through the floor rather than through the door.tl;dr: they do. you're a fag. captcha was m0ppy, because you're so desperate to swab doug's poopdeck?
>>2207819>well maintained engine>with 10 years of 1980s schoolbus lowest-bidder fleet maintenance>that doug owns.
>>2205450Not a boat
>>2208271wrong on may levels. There's a hatch right above the engine, here it is going in with the pilot house on
>>2208271Engine with trans connected. spoilers: There's a deck crane.
>>2208271>> there isn't enough room in the compartment to service them in-situ
>>2208389Does Doug ever get tired of winning?
>>2208392That's the cargo hold newfag.The engine room is behind a bulkhead from the cargo hold.He put the engine in before the bulkhead.I dont even think there's a hatch below the pilot house, he is gonna have to cut a hole in the deck
>>2207998He intentionally had total newbies and even children weld shit on his ship because >haha mig goes brrrrrrrrrrrr welding is so easy
>>2208486"Its like hot glue"
Imagine dedicating a general to Doug absolutely dabbing on you over, and over.
>>2208495We are all fans waiting with bated breath for the beast to be launched on its maiden voyage.
>>2208495We'll have to imagine it, since that never happened.
>>2208440actually anon's right >>2208394I for one had forgotten about that hatch, it's one of the bolt-down ones as you can see here >>2208392the door in >>2208394 is to the cargo hold, this one >>2208392 lead to the aft cabin
>>2208503I have officially taken the doug pill
>>2208490I like how Doug took a phrase originally said by industrial welders to shit on homegamers with their rickety mig machines, and turned it into an optimistic line about how strong his welds are.
>>2208503The voices of reason stopped actually giving advice or talking to Doug 6-7 years ago when he burnt all those bridges.
>>2208508You don't have to imagine Doug becoming king of /diy/. It's here. These have been the most popular threads ever.
Curiosity got the better of me and I just checked the boomerbook group. Latest post is teasing an update video that drops in 40 hours. Why do I feel the update won't involve cranes, boats or the water?
>>2208753>Cranesload large pieces onto>boatsor barges that must make their way over>waterto the scrapping facility.
>>2208675He's an idiot. Though the pros call MIG a glue gun wire welding done correctly is a fine process. Done Doug-style it's a mystery process because it's very easy for noobs to make an attractive but cold weld joint. I doubt anyone there did an AWS bend test to check themselves like the pros do.
Did this shit sink yet? Fucking lazy ass Doug
>>2208718KekThat guy was always #ftfadia
>>2208777CheckedHas anyone ever seen any of Doug's welding samples sent to labs for cross section analysis? Like just a butt joint weld of some hull material used? He probably did that years ago at the beginning right?Right?
>>2208758Damn, did you just solve Doug's problem? Old river barges are cheap as scrap. Doug could get one that could hold Seeker for under 30k. He then get the port to load Seeker onto it as scrap, and have it mysteriously sink someplace outside the port. First job for Seeker would be recovery and then scrapping the barge.
>>2208718Kek, no. Train wrecks are always popular to laugh at.
>>2205328>ALL IS LOST>ALL IS LOST>ALL IS LOSTany bets on what this upcoming video will be about?I'm sure it will be a lecture about how everybody is a pussy while still asking for money
>>2208930Guaranteed to be a smug Doug acting like his plans are cominc along just fine despite his artificial reef being stuck in someone's parking lot for a month.
>>2208930Going in the water at 12 on saturday
>>2208930Doug kneels down on top of the pilot house and betsy cuts his head off with a jian
>>2208864Give up. That boat will be in the water in less than 30 hours.
>>2209161newfag. bunker-chan threads were tons more popular.
>>2208806Your ship can't sink if you never put it in water :^)
>>2209253It can still sink into the ground.
>>2209084How deep and which side up?
>>2207977I am of that older generation and find your post accurate. It takes decades of dedication and deliberate immersion in multiple complementary disciplines to get good. My strategy is find people much better than I am and help them out with my skills while learning. Everyone wins and all it takes is humility. I push a broom and take care of basics at other peoples shops like anyone else and the men I help understand classic dedication so we get shit done.Do ye likewise and it's fucking gold. There are many better weldors, mechanics and techs than I but I'm equipped to quickly advance to any level I can reasonably anticipate needing and I'm never too proud to outsource. Like my pro machinistbro says it's vital to know what NOT to want to DIY. (That's why he doesn't buy laser cutters or Blanchard grinders.) That's the trick to business survival in the insanely competitive machinist world BTW. What one man or woman can do another can do and that includes YOU so fucking go for it. You'll break shit along the way, but he who makes no scrap does no work. Do it, faggots!
>>2208818He'd have been good with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imiiakl6H2MNo idea if he hit his steel with an XRF gun (if it was mystery metal, scrapyards have those to ID stuff) to ID it or what weld filler he selected or what WPS (HAH!) he used.
>>2209339Why would he need to do that? He knows what it is because he bought it from a yard. It's 1/4" A36 hot rolled. There's a video of him unloading it ffs.
>>2209353I said IF. I didn't see the purchase.
>>2209362If you don't even watch the channel then why the fuck comment?
Hi, I have just learned about this topic from reading a bit of the thread. Serious question: Is this Doug character mentally and socially well adjusted, and where did he learn what little engineering knowledge he has?Also, what is the projected date for the boat sinking?
>>2209362>I said IF.Then stop posting comments until you've worked through the video catalog.
>>2209371T minus 22:75:00
>>2209376Oh, is it in the water now?
>>2209398More important, is ALL of it in the water. As in, underwater.
>>2209370I don't watch the ENTIRE channel. Seeing the way he works is cause to question how he works and the channel is not broken down in detail.
>>2209376Holy Based, Dougn'ts BTFO
>>2209472Fucking got me. I'll never financially recover from this. Damn Doug and his improbable winning streak!
>>2209376>replying to everyone in the thread>including people defending doug2/10 try again when you're sober
>>2205550not only are you that guy, you're a fucking retard.Scuppers are channels around the deck of a ship that allow water taken on deck to run off.Scuttling is the intentional sinking of a ship by opening seacock valves to flood the hull.
>>2208930It will just be doug announcing that he has sold all the shit he was selling and not an actual update on the boat.
>>2209653scupper is a verb
T - 07:15:00
>>2209757inb4 it's a nothing burger
>>2209431Not possible.Port of Catoosa is only 2 feet deeper than his draft.
>>2209783This is your opportunity to troll Doug LIVE. RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv8TC-BWtdg
It's incredibly clear to people who build boats professionally that doug is a complete mong building a meme boat with aesthetics in mind over safety and general practical reason. Is he free to build a deathtrap and set it to sea? That remains to be found out. Is it a good idea? Likely not, if, and only if that death trap ever sets sail, the people on board are taking an enormous risk considering that they could just get work on a safe boat for an equal or better salary and not risk their actual life.I'm not sure what the value of this is outside of entertainment, but there's already tons of shitty reality shows out there so, what gives?
No insurance, no letter of credit, trying to piggyback on someone elses general liability business coverage. lmao
>>2209846>making fun of doomsayers in the thumbnail and stream title>nothing is actually solved, nothing is any better than before???
>>2209846>ugly fat old lady plugging all that awful merch>boomer with a nigger bandana accusing the entire world of cowardiceI can't put my finger on what exactly, but something is giving me very bad vibes.
>>2209846>This is your opportunity to troll Doug LIVE.I’m not finding a comment button. Am I stupid?
>>2209852>could just get work on a safe boat for an equal or better salary and not risk their actual life. I highly doubt anyone who works on the boat will be paid. They will be volunteers and they get the opportunity to work on the world famous sv seeker.
>>2209907This is live stream. Doug is answering comments in real time but I don’t see him typing. What gives?
>>2209919Paige the brunette was manning the helm while Doug was showing off
>>2209846How could an insurance company deny them? They’re clearly not massive liabilities in every respect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6BRxdra-bs at 3:30Pretty sure Doug comes to /diy/ lol
>>2209932Nope.And even if he did, he would nope out immediately since its not an echochamber sucking his dick.He left the subreddit to die because people gave him constructive criticism.
>>2209934Nah Doug 100% comes here.
>>2209938You are the same type of retard who thinks AVE comes here, praising these e-celebs and acting like they are royalty.No they dont. And even if they did, they wouldnt stay.
>>2209942He's replying to all the comments on his youtube, and I'm 95% sure he referenced a comment on here. Clearly the man has more time to shitpost on the internet these days.
Imagine being management of this port, not charging Doug for storage and offering the port to help with his project. You reasonably ask for liability insurance since you are exposing your port to a lot of risk since if something happens you can lose a lot of money. Then Doug constantly calls you a pussy. What an asshole. The port is at fault for letting him park the boat there with no real plans or checking to see what insurance he has.
>>2209915>>2209852It's called "paying crew"
>>2209932>he's literally scouting for locations where to put his rust pile in the water>keeps on complaining about lack of courageHe must be on suicide watch.>>2209943>and I'm 95% sure he referenced a comment on hereIt's very much likely that something of the same sort came up in his echo-chamber. I mean, it's easier to think that people recognize the same errors than he comes here.
>>2209958It's the bit before I was thinking of.
>>2209700It's both. Why do you people assume you know when examples are at your fingertips?Some scupper design considerations:https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/scupper-designs.3123/Scupper as a verb refers to old military slang since dead guys fell over and rolled towards the scuppers.https://notoneoffbritishisms.com/2016/12/20/scuppered/Scuttling is what the High Seas Fleet did at Scapa Flow.
>>2209928How are YOU more capable than insurance company actuaries of determining what liabilities are in play when you don't work in that specific industry? (If you did you'd have provided an answer instead of a question.)I suggest asking that question on professional boat building forums where you can find many experts with multiple vessels to their credit.If Doug had been wiser he'd have solved the problem during the research phase, perhaps by buying suitable waterfront property in the first place instead of a silly conventional inland home. Then he could have (for example) build a suitable slipway with a pad for building the vessel like professional builders do.https://www.alamy.com/the-maid-of-the-loch-being-pulled-up-the-slipway-before-the-craddle-carrying-the-vessel-snapped-during-the-slipping-of-the-historic-steamer-as-it-was-being-hauled-out-the-water-by-the-original-winchhouse-and-onto-the-balloch-steam-slipway-balloch-image230877263.html is a good pic but apparently their old shit broke in the process. All his problems have been solved for more than a century. To succeed, copy success.
>>2210016>doesn’t understand sarcasm
>>2210027Dougn'ts are slow, timid creatures, Anon. Be patient with them.
>>2209999I like you're helmet, Anon
It seems that he really does intend to run his dethtrap with no insurance. I can't wait to see the "researchers" who take him up on it.
>>2210074That's obvious stuff anyone with the slightest interest in history or shipping should know. You must have been educated in the Ozarks.
>>2210075Another gem. Really shows the attitude towards attention to detail that went into the whole project.
>>2209938I truly hope Doug does come here. And I hope he's here when that fat ass pig turns over in the first stiff breeze and turtles, with the massive weight up top. If it ever makes it into the water, that is. He doesn't have enough keel to stay upright under sail. It's simple physics, Doug. You know, that thing you've completely ignored the whole way up to this point. You're turtling the first time you try to heel. A shallow draft like your pig is fine if you're pure engine powered, but your lack of bow thrusters means you'll turn slower than oil tankers. But really, I just hope you don't hurt or kill anyone, Doug. You talk a big game, and you're def on the spectrum for a personality disorder, but other people's lives aren't yours to spend.
>>2210075Nobody is going to step foot on that future reef environment. Anyone with a grant will lose their grant if they're on non-accredited boats. Research boats is a whole world unto itself, with safety and insurance requirements of their own. Nobody is gonna risk their equipment, life, and grants for Doug's post-menopause pirate dream.
>>2210098>non-accredited boatsWhat specific accreditation, that applies to a boat, are you talking about?
>>2210082This motherfucker. That comment alone is gonna end up being used in a fucking court case as evidence of his retardedness.
>>2210115NOAA, to start. https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/technology/vessels/vessels.htmlUNOLS is for college based vessels. RV, or Research Vessel, as a designation that's regulated by the Feds.https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-46/chapter-I/subchapter-A/part-3I kind of doubt Doug has applied for, and been approved for the RV designation by the Feds. Which is why it's named "SV" for sailing vessel, not "RV". Getting RV means a fairly intense inspection and meeting a pretty comprehensive list of safety equipment, and living quarters. Nobody doing serious research will even consider Doug's Folly. No insurance, not enough safety equipment, and they'd lose their grant going aboard. (Institutions that issue grants for oceanic research are pussies who require safety standards and also making sure the boat won't pollute or cause problems in regions they're designated to operate in. Like not having enough grey water stowage so they're not dumping piss and shit into the waters they're studying. Or not risking their equipment going to the bottom in a storm, with no insurance.) It's just more bullshit from Doug. He can't even get the top heavy pig into the water, let alone pass any muster from anyone doing actual research.
>>2210121The court isn't going to give a shit about the unprofessional opinion of the owner when they had a the trained, certified, experienced, licenced and insured marine surveyor go over the boat for them lol
>the thumbnailWhat did he mean by this?
>>2210134Oh so you meant designation and not accreditation. It's hard to follow people that don't even know the correct words to use when making shit up on the internet.
>>2210098we all know what kind of "researchers" will use his boat
>>2210075>>2210082He's still in the denial phase of grief.
Please keep posting his YouTube comments I don't want to give him the view
>>2205328Huamnity has degenerated so far that I don't know if OP is genuinely a retarded leftist nigger or is just pretending.
>>2205450A U.S. fast food restaurant that happens to be a magnet for people who only want something sold somewhere else (Mc Donald's, Pizza Hut, a hardware store)
>>2210172Oh, so you're a neckbeard with a pound of sand in your neckvagina.
>>2207756Yeah that makes sense for a straightforward build, but for a troll the Redditors build like this even if you do it that way you have to do an awkward problematic build for the camera.
Some more insight into Doug's genius engineering skills. I really hope that against all odds the boat gets in the water so we can start seeing some of his design theory put to the test. https://youtu.be/4ER25QcRgN4?t=133
>>2210322>the windows blowing out is actually part of the design because if the pilothouse got hit by a wave the whole thing would tear off the shipincredible. thank you so much anon, this really made my night.
Guys, it's going to get launched. In his qa he mentioned an engineering firm was willing to let it ride under their general liability umbrella. Seeker is currently sitting at the port for free while the donations are rolling in. Does anyone here have the slightest idea what dockage for an 80 footer would cost? He's in no rush to launch and you're a fool to not see it.
>>2210182>flat earth theory>turns flat earth back into a spherewas this originally a joke? is this poe's law?
>>2210322Holy shit this is even worse than I thought!>safety glasses>them blowing out in a storm is a design feature>the only problems he envisioned are the water getting in, which can drain down two tiny holes, and the pilot house getting cold>having the whole deck flooded and taking in multiple tons of water on an already overweight boat isn't a problem>having shards of tempered glass shot into your face by a wave isn't a problem>it is the way it is>people having preemptive "panic" is a bad thing because being prepared for the worst situations is cowardiceThe guy MUST have a deathwish.
>>2210322>I would prefer it if my vessel takes on water in a stormAbsolute King
Why yall care so much?
>>2210474Just watching a slow motion train wreck
>>2210474Because it's hilarious! Autspergtism, Dunning-Kruger and boomer vanity in one gloriously un-self aware package.
>>2210368False images like these are put out by globers to discredit true flat earth education and confuse people trying to find the truth. It's flat earth 101 bro.
>>2210519>has no idea what spamming or flooding is.lawl
>>2208503I never thought my boring engineering rambling would get turned into a meme. I'm so proud.
>>2210374You're gonna quit that easy? A pilot house full of water is free ballast, you must have been raised by a woman.
>>2210524/diy/ is kinda low on memes, so whenever someone tries to do something faintly stupid it gets blown up and memes get made. See also: shipping containers, submarines, etc.Pic related was fun
>>2210553wait no this is what i meant to post
>>2210553Shame.I was being autistic but not like ragey autistic. /diy/ deserves better.Started watching some of this guy's videos. I actually admire his drive and ability to acquire new skills.
>>2210322>the windows blowing out is actually part of the design because if the pilothouse got hit by a wave the whole thing would tear off the ship
>>2210570Too bad he's permanently stuck at the peak of dunning-kruger because being a boomer smartass by the time he barely scrapes the surface he already knows more that anyone can possibly teach him as well as how to do it better and anyone saying otherwise is a weak hater raised by a woman
>>2210474It's funny watching you get so triggered Doug. #ftfadia
so let me get this straight, the man didnt buy a plan from a respectable ship designer? Wtf was he thinking? Lel
>>2205328this lunatic reminds me of Raw Faith...what a mess
>>2210638He felt the fear and did it anyways.
>>2210638They're all pussies who get scared of their own shadow and overengineer things for no reason. Also plans rob you of creative freedom and you don't want that, do you?
>>2210632I have a feeling this will be a catastrophic failure directly stemming from his unwarranted boomer confidence
>>2210632The thing I don't get is that the guy was a teacher, then a database admin, then... built a sub out of wood.The man is built different. Built stupid.
>>2210082>>2210136>they had a the trained, certified, experienced, licenced and insured marine surveyor go over the boat for themThen when will the report drop and why all the difficulty with insurance?
>>2210776Because they surveyor said it was a shit show.
>>2210793If true, then it’s really over.
>>2210075But money for research projects come from the institutions??>>2210196Why is Doug displaying cowardice and fear in refusing to acknowledge potentially negative outcomes? That's not the doug I know...
>>2210554Jesus, I forgot about that thread.Thanks for reminding me.Do you have a screencap of the guy who wanted to make a testicle heater for use as a contraceptive?I think I lost my screencap of it.
The bilge pump is a harbor freight sump pump that is unsecured and has a plastic float switch.
>>2210806Does anyone know where he’s getting 120V AC?
>>2210822Public Service Company of Oklahoma, like everyone else in Tulsa?
>>2210822He has two big Harbor Freight inverters. One failed upon arrival in the parking lot.
>>2210774>built a sub out of wood.to be fair apparently it saw water and kind of worked
>>2210831>Harbor failed at the harbor.Put me in the screencap.
>>2210838Even Peter Sirpol makes things that see air and kinda fly, but there's a big difference between hacking together something that works enough for a youtube video and building something that will withstand constant use and abuse for the decades to come without killing anyone.
>>2210839To be fair, cheap inverters aren’t designed for running heavy AC motors. The lolbert of thinking “harbor” means marine-grade.
>>2210802wasn't there for that one
Fuckin boat should be called the SV SEETHER
>>2210943I like how he pretends to be above all the naysayers and talks down on them but still obviously gets mad every time.
>>2210964He talks about spending 10 years building this boat and all the details he put into it. Then spends half the video exploring the waterside explaining why he can't get the boat in the water without the help of the huge crane that is pulling material from barges. Then he's gotta use another crane to actually install the sailing masts. >Hey local port with a huge crane, can I potentially interrupt all of your important water traffic that brings much needed material to the surrounding area for jobs so you can put my hobby boat in the water?>What? You need some sort of guarantee that you'll be compensated for any damage or delay of business for your assistance?>Did I not include how to get the boat in the water when I'm miles away from the ocean 10 years ago?! Stop asking me coward! >It's everyone else's fault for not having the courage!!!
>>2210776Doug has the report. If he doesn't want to put it online he doesn't have to. It is his report. As to why no one wants to insure it; it's because he needs an engineering firm to sign off on the structure, not a MS.
>>2211040I'm not rooting for Doug but fuck the goddamn red tape. If he really wanted it in the water though he'd find a way. I don't think he is real.
>>2211055He can't just dump it into the water because there is nowhere to do it, ramps and waterways are too small. I think he's eventually going to end up paying exorbitant amounts to have it hauled somewhere else where he can dump it in the water.
>>2211040>he needs an engineering firm to sign off on the structureI can't decide whether the engineers in charge of inspecting the "boat" would die of laughter, of a stroke, or of hemorrhage due to the various hazards scattered around.
>>2211055I agree with you on the red tape. Shit's a bunch of bureaucratic bullshit. I live out in the county and learned all about red tape trying to build my shop last year and the restrictions based on size and sq ft of my house and my acreage. I fucking hate it! That being said, I learned all that months prior to even getting the permits for my concrete pad. Got the shop built and now everything's fine.This grown ass man spent 10 years building a boat and invested all his own time and money, as well as everyone else's, and never stopped to fully research the logistics of getting in the water. Just based on that simple bit of information alone tells me he doesn't plan ahead and I'd never touch his boat with a 10 ft styrofoam downs-ridden mermaid. That's without watching a second of his construction videos. They'll end up making a series out of it like that gay tiger guy.
>>2211079Why you guys pretending the boat isn't going to be launched? Doug has an engineering firm that will let him launch the boat under their insurance. https://youtu.be/kv8TC-BWtdg?t=599
>>2211110So why isnt it in the water yet?
>>2211110But I don’t think the firm ever agreed to launch it. Doug literally says in the video that he would contract them to basically transfer the risk of launch onto their insurance. No reputable engineering firm would touch that with a ten-foot pole.
if he had brains he would of bought a barge and towed the boat onto to it then paid a tug boat to bring it to the gulf and either dump the barge off shore or fill it with old truck wheels rigged to an inflation system and sink the barge slowly
>>2211212>No reputable engineering firm would touch that with a ten-foot pole.I think that considering what the ship needs to do, i.e. stay together long enough to be lowered into the water and get past the buoy, some engineering firm might consider doing a PR stunt and lend themselves to the deed, probably under the condition of adding some internal structure, even just temporarily (like those tubular roof supports that get used in mines and collapsing buildings, just put horizontally from side to side of the hull); for that to happen Doug would have to swallow all his pride though, which seems unlikely.>>2211215If he had brains he wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.
>>2211024I think his actions make sense if you think about this bombshell: Doug is feeling the fear and not doing it anyways. He wants the insurance, he's gonna act all tough and talk down to everyone else, but when it comes down to it he's lost confidence in his project. He does not believe in his project enough to actually put it in the water himself and be on the hook for what happens. That's why the sad sack show of the past few weeks, He's looking for someone to pay for his failure, he's too much of a pussy to just put the boat in the water. and he makes plenty of money anyways with the boat sitting on the ground. You heard it here folks, Doug Jackson, a man raised by women.
>>2210822There are multiple generators on the boat and the battery bank.
>>2211191Because it's currently sitting in the port rent free. People that don't have big boats wouldn't understand how huge that is. When he launches the port may let him stay for a few days ... maybe even a week or two but he'd be taking up valuable dock space. Google maps the port he's at. It's little more than a channel. There's not a lot of space and even less dock. No place to anchor. When he launches he has to be ready to go. When he does launch I see him motoring down to the first lake his draft will allow him and setting the hook until the seasons push him to the gulf. Doug has a dream but no sailing experience. As soon as the boat is in the water he's going to start being pushed instead of the one pushing and that's when the boomer drama will really hit the fan.
>>2211286If he ever makes it to the ocean, which I doubt, he's going to finally die the romantic death he always dreamed of.
>>2211288At least he'll be able to have "it wasn't a cowards death" in his obituary
>>2211286Imagine the arrogance to think that the ocean will be a fun learning experience for you on your home made boat. This is levels of boomer never even thought possible before. The ocean kills experienced people in professionally engineered boats. There are fucking songs about it. He does not have a chance with his arrogance, better pray this cluster never makes it into the water for his own sake.
he needs to hurry up to get to the ocean before the hurricane season is over
>>2211294Check out this little speech right here:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ER25QcRgN4&t=187I'll quote directly a small passage that convinced me that Doug is deranged and delusional:>my philosophy is: I don't want to avoid all that [a massive storm]>so I'll figure out the limits of the boat, my limits of skill and we'll match that to the weather we'll get into>that's just the way I wanna do it>if that's frightening to you I suggest staying on Disney line cruises
>>2211335He'll learn after he experiences his first blow. I know a lot of good captains that went in with the same mentality. It's not until you've felt the helplessness first hand do you gain wisdom from it.
>>2211338>I know a lot of good captains that went in with the same mentality.If they got out alive is by chance, and Doug's boat is really working against those chances.
>>2211277>There are multiple generators on the boat and the battery bank.All of that is DC.
>>2211433You think the VMAC doesn't output AC?
>>2211338This is Doug we're talking about. He's had quite a few close calls in his videos, like the ship almost crashing on him, and his first reaction after escaping the immediate danger is always to laugh it off and play cool, and by the time he's done he is already convinced himself that is was a nothingburger. He's got some weird, I dunno, pride? Arrogance? that stops him from learning from experience. Basically he's never wrong so there's nothing to learn.
>>2211473I think the word you're looking for is "Boomer
>>2211335That message alone tells me that Doug has never been punched in the face. The sea will humble any man.
>>2210647It's a pity raw faith predated widespread use of smartphones and jewtube, would've been great to see all the fine details of that failure.
>>2211286Ten yearsA million jewtube viewsNever once did he think to ask if any fans with boats would like to have him on as extra crew for training/experienceThis dumb asshole went on a boat once, the nuthin wong, and ever since he's been stuck on land with the only practical experience of seamanship being the wong way.
>>2211335The captain of the Bounty had a similar mentality. He did an interview shortly before they sank, where he mentions he chases hurricanes and he sails as close to the eye as possible.
>>2211433There are inverters on the boat...
>>2211435>having to run a VMAC to operate your bilge pumps>>2211592>using inverters to run heavy motors>>2211582The Bounty was seized by mutineers and scuttled at Pitcairn.
>>2211747I believe that anon might be talking about the 1960's Bounty which was sailed into hurricane Sandy. If only the crew would have mutinied twice.
>>2211747>using inverters to run heavy motorsNo one tell the virgin how vfd's work.
>>2211877screenshotted for /r/gatekeeping fucking doug lover
>>2211747>The Bounty was seized by mutineers and scuttled at Pitcairn.I am referring to the replica that sailed into hurricane Sandy and sank.
>>2211829>Harbor Freight inverters >one already blew
>>2211972At least they're all wired together properly. Oh wait...
>>2212092Looks marine grade to me. #FTFADIA
>>2212133Just need to slap some fucking liquid tape on that mess and it's waterproof
>>2211972They're not harbor freight inverters. They're $2,500 Trace Engineering SW inverters. Do you guy ever get tired of being wrong?
>>2212139scratch that. They're actually $3800 inverters. http://www.svseeker.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/TRACE_SW4024MC2UserGuide.pdf
>>2212141If they are so great, then why did one already fail? Does Doug know how to properly wire them?
>>2212133Doug feels no fear
>>2212142Doug didn't wire them but yeah; that guy that did didn't rtfm and blew one lol.
>>2212156Are there any other systems that Doug doesn't understand that he trusted someone else that hasn't been checked yet? I would be worried about something important failing at sea.
>>2212141>>2212156Doug why are you on 4chan. We're not giving you any more engineering drawings from your chicken scratches.
>>2212158Can't say because most of them aren't even functional. Seeker is going to be a maintenance nightmare. Just look at the hydraulic system. It's stupid complex for no reason and the one function that it needs to do (autopilot) it doesn't. >>2212163Funny you think I'm doug. I'm not even close to his level of arrogant. Just because I correct someone doesn't mean I'm not here for the boomer shitshow.
>>2212171He's going to have to stay within dinghy range of harbor freight once this tub sees some salt water. The corrosion and maintenance requirements are going to be crazy. He's a flyover Boomer with no concept of how fast everything corrodes once on the ocean
>>2212171I couldn't imagine anyone else knowing off the top of head what invertor he has or how much he paid for it
>>2212183No doubt. I grew up on the great lakes and had no idea stainless rusted until I saw what it did to my rigging after sailing down the coast to the islands. I'm waiting for Doug to experience his first gulf blow. They come fast here and if he can't got those sails down or at least reefed(he doesn't have a reefing system lol) in time it'll be a real shit show. Having a heavy stayless mast isn't going to work in his favor.
>>2212195They were donated, he paid nothing for them. I knew they weren't from harbor freight because I watched the video when he got them. I found out what they were because i googled seeker inverters and it took me to the pdf i linked. I found out how much they are because i googled the model and the first link was trying to sell it to me. You can tell I'm not Doug because I haven't raged about fear or women and my messages don't end with a smiley face.
>>2212204>You can tell I'm not Doug because I haven't raged about fear or women and my messages don't end with a smiley face.Just Doug Things™
>>2212204Fucking Doug sending Paige in here to do his dirty work clearly.
>>2212197>he doesn't have a reefing system lolwhat are you talking about, his entire boat is a reefing system
>>2212278His entire boat is also going to be a reef system after his various hacks and bodges shit the bed in the first proper blow
yes that was the joke
>>2212204I'm a big fan Doug, keep dabbing on these Dougn'ts
>>2212092Just by your pic, I'm guessing there is no hard wiring with conduit and he's daisy chaining dollar store extension cords as if were hanging Christmas lights.He's so fearless. Turbo courage!