Best wire strippers? Need a new set. Also /electrical/ general i guess
I like my Kobalts pretty goodI think as long as they're not Chinesium garbage, wire strippers are one of those things where there's not a lot of difference between a $15 pair and a $50 pair
I like Klein's however Milwaukee makes the same strippers for half the price and they have a better fit and finish.
Standard Klein 1045s or Klein Kurve. Anything else genuinely makes you look incompetent. Imagine carrying around pic related and expecting to be taken seriously lmao
>>2126445I've had these for a few years ago and they're decent, I like them
I use the cheaper southwire ones (7 in 1)channellocks 440 and 442 for running EMTthenwhen pulling wire it's all these multi pliersif i'm landing in the panel it's ideal's reflex yellow strippers or some automatic ones from germany
>>2126341Ideal T strippersPerfection, you need nothing more
>>2126445Those milwaukees work great, IDK what you're on about.
>>2126445>>2126449Used the same Milwaukee strippers in the HVAC trade for 3 years so far. Nothing wrong with them. Fit in tighter spots than the Kleins.
>>2126494Imagine working in an outlet box with this huge fucker
>>2126445Those milwaukees blow the 1045's out of the water you insecure idiot.
>>2126341Here's my basic set I work with. A - Hated by most, but actually ideal for anything 24AWG and smaller. Once you get them dialed in for the wire size you're working with, they can't be beat. Need to strip 1/32" off the end of a 28AWG wire? These are the ones.B - Good, general, all-purpose set. They usually have 7 or 8 or even 10 sizes. They're easy to keep sharp with a round needle file. C - These are for when you need repeatable, consistent results. Need to crimp up a bunch of cables? This is what you want. Set your depth and go on autopilot.D - They call these "coax stripper," but they're also good for any multi-conductor cable that will fit inside them. Want some advice? Get rid of all the extra razor blades in the thing. Your fingers will thank you.
Anybody use pic related? The big ass duckbill end looks like it would get in the way more than it would help.
this is my go to for sparky stuff, but where i live we do not have armor clad and everything in buildings is pvc.>>2126515Removes the mantle even deep inside a box
>>2126341Ur mum, she can strip the chrome off a trailer hitch.
Great so far
>>2126445>Imagine prejudging people by their tool brands instead of the quality of their craftsmanshipYou should change yourself.
>>2126494I have a cheap chinkshit variant of this, it's fantastic for thin wires, can strip ribbons of 4-5 at once. 14AWG and bigger it starts to struggle.
>>2126515Imagine not working on new construction
I picked these at NAPA auto parts for $20. I like that the crimping is on the outside to apply more leverage and the cutting is inside closer to the center of gravity for better pulling. It also has teeth at the end to pull and twist wires. Snap on has a model that looks exactly like this but at least twice as expensive. Klein and Knipex also have something similar, but again way more expensive.
With a little practice you can get very efficient with either of these. I personally use the v notches for smaller gauges and stranded and the dykes for solid bigger gauges. I use them every day for work and have never had any problems.
>>2126631I use a pair like those except without the spring. I like them because I can splice a couple #12s and also crimp some crimp connectors if need be.
>>2126341Klein Katapult or bust. I guess the ideals are ok, but klein does it best. Manual wire strippers are boomer garbage.>>2126494Garbage. Absolute garbage. Vise grip brand anything that's isn't an actual pair of locking pliers are garbage.
>>2127336I've got the OTC ones, one bent and one straight, great for crimping butt connectors in tight spots
>>2126341Literally best tool.
>>2127532Everything knipex does is far superior to the competition.
>>2126445Those Milwaukee’s are great. I have Klein’s of various kinds and I will probably buy the Milwaukee at some point because they are just that nice
>>2126631I have those and I like the big ends, you can grab stuff like lineman’s but it’s also a small stripper
>>2127532multitools are gay
>>2127519>Garbage. Absolute garbage. Vise grip brand anything that's isn't an actual pair of locking pliers are garbage.Um, sweetie... Irwin Vise Grips are widely understood to be some of the worst locking pliers coming out China. Harbor Freight’s Bremen line (Taiwan) blows them out of the water. Grip-ons (Spain) are arguably even better. Malco’s new Eagle Grips (USA) dunk on every other locking plier ever made.
I use these most of the time but I also keep some full sized Kleins in my bag and a more normal (similar to >>2126700) set
>>2126606A. Is slightly specialized to strip the cladding off of fiber optic cable. All they do is glue the sets crew in position. If it gets worn enough it doesnt work any more, it would also need sharpening so its better to just get a new set
>>2127669I didn't say they were the best retard, only that they are the only decent vise grip product. Grip on locking pliers are the GOAT. One hand opening all the way.
>>2126341I got one of these from my dad when as a present when I got my license. Works great, And i need no others.>>2127507This guy gets it.
These have been my favorite-ex automation technician
>>2127507Great for solid wire, stranded wire is so-so.
If you really wanted to you can use some regular lineman’s to strip everything from #3 to #14. Just use a knife for anything bigger and your teeth for anything smaller
>>2128497You're supposed to crush the wire with the textured part near the lower handles. This smushed the insulation off leaving absolutely 0 Knicks on the copper to be stress risers
>>2128687I'm having trouble visualizing what you mean. Can you explain it to me like I'm a complete idiot? That would be very helpful, thank you
>>2128700Stick wire in here.Squeeze handleInsulation will be cut clear to the copper in several spots from the hard straight lines. These will allow you to peel the insulation off. Safety inspector says it the only acceptable way for me to do grounds and high voltage fault protection because any little knick will be a failure point
>>2127171my chink version of the same tool works with every cable size that fits into the jawshave you tried using the screw to increase boring power for thicker cables
>>2126649Can recommend for NYM cables. DIYd a house with these, didn't damage one cable.
>>2126649What is that and how does it work?
>>2127519what is the best brand of these. the pair I've had for 20 years has started catching constantly. tired of fighting with it.
>>2128705>any little knickHow does crushing it with those sharp edges NOT create a knick
>>2128981ideal stripmasters or klein katapults
recomendations for fine wire sizes?
>>2128982Dont know what to tell you, it doesnt.
>>2128990I got pic related for smaller wires, no complaints. Upside to Klein is you can swap em out at home depot if they get old and worn.
>>2128974jokari cable stripperit hinges into two parts, you insert a pvc cable, close the halfs and rotate it.makes a shallow circular cut in the mantle and can be pulled off easily (even in recessed areas)on the side with the red shield there is an array of wire strippers for different cross sections, so you do not have to reach for another tool.it is 20€ and knockoffs are cheaper, easily the best money you can spend if your country relies on pvc cables
>come here for actual reccomendations>see ten pictures of one thing and ten pictures of another thingMaybe not so great of a thread. I would have thought there'd be some real insight here. Screw me, huh?
>>2129391You really thought /diy/ would have a useful and helpful "what should i buy" thread? This is a troll bait threadBtw, do you prefer wood or brick?
>>2129391Not gonna lie, these $15 Husky multi electic deal has been treating me good in the go-bag.
>>2126341Just use a pair of wire cutters. They are more versatile and you save a tool.
>>2128404It's just proper technique
>>2128222This here can strip any wire, as well as cut them, strips and pulle open longer pieces of insulation.
>>2129391Did you want a general concensus on a single tool? Fuck off.
>>2131180>grrrrrr look how unreasonably angry i get at offhand comments>grrrrrrMaybe get laid or have a drink or something lol
>>2131220Fuck off. Just shill your fucking tool and get out
>>2131220okay it's the faggot who made the post that he's replying to who is mad, not the guy calling him a faggot, faggot. get this straight
most of the tools you present here are considered primitive junk in my country. just get a proper self adjusting wire stripper like a Weidmüller Stripax. lasts for decades. I'm very satisfied
>>2131534>grrrrr i am always angry and i am boss here>grrrrr
>>2131696>grrrrrliterally lol'd. 10/10 postIt does get a bit annoying though>Which product should I buy for my DIY activities?
>>2131646Pfft, your country probably banned the real ones because they could be used as weapons. Those look like plastic safety garbage
>>2131646those are wonderful but they only work on very small gauge wires, many of us are dealing with stuff that's a bit bigger. personally I mess with everything from 18 to 3/0 so I need a range of tools to handle them
>>2131706>It does get a bit annoying thoughTotally. Every post is /diy/ bingo any more. Moderation is dead. (Unless you talk about how moderation is dead. They're right on that shit.) And >grrrrrneeds its own bingo square.>>2132029>they only work on very small gauge wiresI've found just the opposite, but I guess it depends on what you consider "very small". Mine work great on anything 10AWG to about 22 or maybe 24AWG.
>>2132044>I guess it depends on what you consider "very small". Mine work great on anything 10AWG to about 22 or maybe 24AWG.it's not about what I "consider", there are very large wire sizes out there which are used all the time if you're in my profession and I have to strip them...I can't use a teeny tiny stripper on 3/0 (which you seem unfamiliar with so I'll just say it's as thick as your thumb), so telling people the only stripper anyone needs is something that can strip 10 at best is just foolish, and ignorant, and doesn't need to be expressed.
>>2132055I know what 3/0 is. I just never see it or use it for anything in what I do. 6 or maybe 4AWG is the biggest I ever run across in my work, and that's rare. I know techs that never see anything larger than 16AWG. I know one guy winds custom smd transformers never sees bigger than 40AWG. Obviously, your experiences are different.Not everyone is le ebin lineman. Take a pill, Billy Badass. Jesus fuck.
>>2132121>I just never see it or use it for anything in what I do.OK, but I do. so you telling me that I don't need to strip that is bullshit. what about this is hard to comprehend?
>>2132121>Not everyone is le ebin lineman. Take a pill, Billy Badass. Jesus fuck.compare to>>2131646>most of the tools you present here are considered primitive junk in my country.and we recognize immediately that you are a fucking idiot who thinks everyone in the world is you. guess what, faggot - they're not! holy fuck, what a revelation!
>>2132159>>2132162>replying twice>everyone in a thread is one personngmi billy
>>2132192don't fucking reply as if you were someone else unless you want to be regarded as that person!this is common fucking sense you retarded nigger! how is anyone supposed to tell you apart?
>>2132203>i am too stupid to know that it is possible i am talking to multiple people without being explicitly told so>that is why i am angry with youIt's not really me that you're angry with, Billy. It's you. And the decisions you've made that led you to where you now find yourself.Maybe once you confront that, you can start to go through life without being the>grrrrrguy.
>>2133021>It's not really me that you're angry with, Billy. It's you.No, I'm angry at the person you pretended to be. And now I am angry with you for pretending to be them. I'm also just angry in general because it's 2021.
>>2133038If you go re-read the initial exchange, I never once claimed to be that other guy.On the other side of the coin, I did sort of butt in, and also neglected to state that I was not that person.I'm sorry, anon. I'll do better in the future.
Why do the handle covers always come off the cheap tools? Is it that hard of a problem to solve.
>>2132029they work fine up to 7AWG, i just use a knoife on bigger for convenience
>>2133113It's OK brother, I'm not that mad. I'm just medium-annoyed. I appreciate the apology. Please accept my own, as I have also been kind of a cock during this exchange.
>>2128990For anything under 16 AWG or under, I grab these first. I use the Klenk brand. $9 -11 on Amazon. You can thank me later.
guys, can you help my troubleshoot an issue with this motor?It's a 3 phase induction motor on a small printing press. The printing press is supplied with one phase 230V AC. The motor's brand is "National". There is also a "National" branded inverter unit sitting behind the motor. (I am guessing there is also a VFD somewhere in there so it can run with single phase power?)The problem is, that the motor will try to start spinning itself and the cylinders on the press but will stall. After multiple attempts and with a little help, you can get it to start. Also, if the press hasn't run in a few days, it's even harder to get it to start rolling. I have not tested the motor's windings due to limited access. Am I looking at a bad motor that needs new windings?
>>2135516Does it have a starting capacitor? Sounds like it died. Pull it and test it. If it is bad, replace it. If it is not bad, it may be the mechanism that engages the capacitor. I have seen motors that use a centrifugal switch get stuck in the 'run' position so that the start capacitor is never engaged.
>>2135534I went looking for a capacitor but I couldn't find one. Is it possible that it doesn't use one?The motor works fine once you get it running though, no hiccups, strange sounds or variations in RPM.It has a small square box on the right side of the motor, couldn't access it easily to check what's inside but I assume it's where the motor terminals are. What engages the motor is an OMRON solenoid, which has a clear housing and is in pristine condition, I don't think it's that that let the smoke out, as I can hear it clicking/engaging every time you press the RUN button on the press.Is there anything else I should check for once I pull the motor out apart from continuity between the 3 windings?
>>2135539>>2135534wait, I spotted two transformers in the vicinity of the motor that I doubt are used for anything else on the press apart from starting the motor so it probably uses an auto transformer starter?how can I test this?
>>2131646>>2132029These automatic wire strippers can expensive and gimmicky, but they do work exactly as advertised. The issue is that electricians will use whatever pliers they have on hand and can strip perfectly every time, while DIYers are not going to shell out $50+ for a pair of wire strippers.However the cheap $15 ones you can get off ebay are the much better value, they handle everything from 10awg to 24awg spectacularly, are cheap, and the pistol style variants are great for getting deep into the electrical boxes of old houses where traditional wire strippers would have a hard time working inside, or in places where you can't get proper leverage on a wire.
>>2126445picrel kicks ass, you don't know what you're talking about. They're not as popular as Klein, but I see plenty of guys using them at work.
>>2131646this is the gayest shit i've ever seen in my entire life
>>2135604I had an old one from work, maybe someone binned it because it was bad. Couldnt get it to strip anything reliably. Couldnt hold the insulation back or it would cut conductors.
>>2135604>while DIYers are not going to shell out $50+ for a pair of wire strippers.Then why do I have 3 $20 pairs of Klein strippers?
>>2126479this is the correct answer
>this thread full of boomersYikes
>>2136490No, they're for different sizes 6-12g, 12-20g and 22-32g
Why get wire strippers with a limited set of gauges when you can get adjustable ones?
>>2135604>electricians will use whatever pliers they have on hand and can strip perfectly every timeOr so they assume.
>>2135689Yo, turn your monitor on dawg
>>2136975>$60 for three different strippers for 6-32gwow! you got a bad deal! if you're just a hobbyist then truly you are a retard consoomer because $5 strippers work just as good, just a tiny bit less ergonomic.
>>2137007you must be poor and only buy the chinkyest chinkshit tools you can find. and if you're upset that I spent $20 on US made wire strippers then you'll be even more upset to learn there is a $850 worth of Knipex pliers/cutters in that drawer. anyways here is a drawer full of Wiha drivers to anger you further.
>>2136995I stripped some #12SOL with my lineman’s pliers the other day and my cousin was like “whoa neat”. I told him I do that sometimes because to me it saves exactly 20 seconds of me putting down my strippers and picking up my Kleins.
>>2137034I mean at least you're not pretending to be retarded. Hopefully some day your kids or at least someone will be able to actually use the tools you've wasted so much money on.
>>2137034I have some WIHA screwdrivers and I love their ergonomics, haven't been used much but tell myself they will last for a long time.
>>2137045I used the diagonal cutters and the combination pliers two days ago while replacing a GFCI outlet>>2137054i've been meaning to pick up a set of their extra heavy duty drivers to swap out my old craftsman drivers whos handles have seen better days from using channellock pliers on them
>>2135516Nice Panasonic you got there.
>>2137060Add em to your wishlist on Amazon and watch them for a few weeks. Wiha and Gearwrench both have great deals on Amazon from time to time.Or you could go the Jappo route. I’d like to try more stuff from pic related, maybe if/when I need a set of beefy demo drivers I’ll try out pic related. Got 2 of their balldrivers for JIS stuff and they’re solid so far.
>>2137117The Amazon price sucks, they're full MSRP, Wiha has them for only $130 but they're out of stock. Those Vessel drivers are going to be JIS, not phillips.https://www.wihatools.com/10-piece-extra-heavy-duty-softfinish-cushion-grip-driver-tray-set
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY DO YOU HAVE MONEY AHHHHHthis thread in a nutshell
>>2137258>aimlessly buying tools you'll only use a few timesyou will never be upper class
>>2137271if you genuinely think the purchases of internet strangers matter to your life, you are a fucking loser and a retard to bootI actually agree with you, it's silly to buy things you don't need. but it's even worse to go online, seek these people out, and spend your whole evening getting really mad about it. try something more productive like jerking off
>>2137278sounds like projecting to met. 3rd party
>>2137271Most tools pay for themselves after just a few uses. Eventually you've got enough tools you only ever need to buy parts, but i wouldn't expect a sourgrapes smallbrain to understand that they don't have to pay someone to fix everything for them.
>>2137439This desu Which is nice when something breaks on a Sunday a 9pm. Or the time is right to do something.
>>2131646i had this one at work and was perfect, easy to regulate and always workedbroken it after 8y>>2135604had this one too and was trash compared to the original one
just a hobbyist but I like this pair I got from Amazon. had the biggest range/awg that I could find.
>>2128222Croppers are based, the only correct answer
>>2126341>>2126445i used to use klein but they get dull so fast>>2126494based>>2126515>>2127171>>2127669>Irwin Vise Grips are widely understood to be some of the worst locking pliers coming out China.>chinawhere do you think klein is made, retard?I have pic related that are over 10 years old and still work better than my 2 year old kleins
>>2138785>where do you think klein is made, retard?not that anon but they're made in the US you retard
>>2126341No cap try these from harbour freight. 3 dollars and have 8-32 and 10-32 cutters. Much better than klien yellows. You usually go through strippers quickly anyways
>>2139184the absolute state of that cutting edge on a brand new hand picked tool for a promo shot
>>2139184Ah yes. My trusty 8-33 bolt cutter made of cream cheese, for cutting all of those 8-33 bolts I have made out of copper
>>2139349>>2139606It just cuts copper it doesn't have to be that sharp. Once again this thing has outlasted klien yellows and works better at that. And the bolt cutting is super clean and easy as fuck
>>2138789No they’re not. Made in Mexico. Assembled in US(many of it in Texas). The assembly plant in Texas has scrapped tons of lineman pliers and other because they’re shit metal with defects. Klein is trash now. Had a pair of lineman’s break after a week.
>>2139624they clearly dont say that you retard.
>>2139667why would they, it wouldn't be beneficial to them
>>2140267because federal law would require them too, now stay butthurt you cant afford tools which arent made in china
>>2139624Do you know they make different models/grades of those linemans pliers, and they claim that the steel on the higher end ones is USA made? They don't make that claim for the lower end ones, just that they are "made in the USA" which presumably means assembled in the US.
>>2140306>which presumably means assembled in the US.you people are retarded and dont know what the all or virtually all standard is
Hey sparkies im buying a house that has some knob and tube wiring splices with...modern wiring? Dont know what its called. Why does everyone in the real estate world talk so much shit about knob and tube? Is it really that bad?
>>2129214What country are you in Anon? Thanks for the explanation. Also what are pvc cables?
>>2129391Obviously you walk into a professional electrical store that generally sells to contractors, and you buy the nicest fucking tool they have on the wall. There’s your answer guy.>ps it will be a Klein
>>2127336Holy fuck how have I never realized that everyone else has been designing these backwards? I'm going to pick these up tomorrow thanks anon
>>2142370>Is it really that bad?Yes. Replace it as soon as you can. The tubes get old, crack, break, crumble. The linen that's wrapping the wires has dried out and is turning to dust. So you're left with live wires passing through wood members. It's a mater of time before it burns your house down.
>>2128990I find strippers suck for fine wires. I'd rather use a knife.
>>2140274it does notmade in X just means the final assembly placeso e.g. they put the grips on the tools in USA so it's 'made in USA'
>>2127624your mother was gay and you were born from an asshole
>>2142775sounds like you are not from the us and/or are unfamiliar with our consumer protection regulations here. i'll quote a bit of the relevant laws for you here but please read through the url below if you still have questions before continuing your argument because i don't want to have to repeat the information contained within to you. https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/complying-made-usa-standard>What is the standard for a product to be called Made in USA without qualification?For a product to be called Made in USA, or claimed to be of domestic origin without qualifications or limits on the claim, the product must be "all or virtually all" made in the U.S. The term "United States," as referred to in the Enforcement Policy Statement, includes the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. territories and possessions.>What does "all or virtually all" mean?"All or virtually all" means that all significant parts and processing that go into the product must be of U.S. origin. That is, the product should contain no — or negligible — foreign content.
>>2142417Look at the OTC ones on Amazon, same exact thing but there’s a bent model as well and you could probably grab the 2pk of OTCs for the price of one at Napa.
>>2142832In this case the products last "substantiative transformation" is in the USA. The same FTC site you're quoting from describes this. The catch is, they aren't "assembling" the product; They're "manufacturing" it out of materials. The company also doesn't have to prove anything before advertising the product for sale as made in the USA. There's basically no real enforcement for this.
>>2142945you really are this retarded are you?https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blogs/business-blog/2020/03/ftc-pans-made-usa-claims-certain-williams-sonoma-products
>>2142945you're just making yourself look really dumb now.
>>2142967Those kleins are "made in the USA" out of foreign sourced parts. You can call and ask them if it's USA made steel, and they'll tell you their "product" is made in the usa. The steel blank is coming out of a factory in mexico. It's being finished and the handles applied here in the USA.What part of this are you having a problem with? It meets the FTC rules for being "made in the USA" even though it goes against common sense. The difference between being assembled and manufactured is a grey area that this company and others exploit.It's not a secret. You can literally call their customer support number and ask.
>>2142967we can go right to amazon.com and find plenty of products which are listed and advertised as "made in the USA" but then in the product photos it shows 'made in china' stamped on the product.The ftc enforcement of this rule is extremely lax and far from uniform or universal
>>2142945really, just read the link. for your own good. it's not long. it will take you maybe 5 minutes, 10 if you have a learning disability which i suspect. just spend the time to inform yourself of the actual facts instead of doubling down on your stupidity.>Are raw materials included in the evaluation of whether a product is "all or virtually all" made in the U.S.?It depends on how much of the product’s cost the raw materials make up and how far removed from the finished product they are.Example: If the gold in a gold ring is imported, an unqualified Made in USA claim for the ring is deceptive. That’s because of the significant value the gold is likely to represent relative to the finished product, and because the gold — an integral component — is only one step back from the finished article.
>>2143037>That’s because of the significant value the gold is likely to represent relative to the finished product,What do you think the significant value of a somewhat pliers shaped metal blank is vs the completed tool? The suggestion here is that the "material" is nearly worthless compared to the finished item. I don't know why this is bamboozling you so hard-- all of this is covered in the link that you posted.Klein isn't ASSEMBLING the tool in the USA. They are "manufacturing" it. Thus it's made in the USA. None of this is a secret. Their steel is NOT being made in the USA.
>>2143037Are you suggesting that it is nearly impossible to find an item advertised as "made in the USA" which is in fact not honestly made (nearly completely and substantially) in the USA? Klein is presenting this tool in bad faith, and it's doing so by abusing the idea of "made in the USA"
>>21289832nd for stripmaster working. Use at my work consistently. I have bot used Klein's version
>>2143070well then file a suit. if you can prove what you're saying then it's easy money.
All these fits about made in whatever.Being Born in the USA is all I care
>>2142998>>2143000I can only laugh at how butthurt you over your chinkshit irwins. whats next you're going to say that drawer full of knipex are made in taiwan? these wihas are made in the czech republic? stay jelly you poors.
lol you seem madno wonder, you talked so big yet you got proven wronghilarious
>>2143123lol have any of those ever been used for anything?
>>2142401GermoneyRound, non flex conductor cable with poly vinyl chloride casing
>>2143400Kek I know it’s funny, there’s 2 anons with tools that are all less used than mine, anon with the 300pc mini Wiha collection and anon with the M12 in the Packout boxes with the foam.
>>2143554nobody cares. get fucked, namefag.
>>2143400yeah, installed some cordless cellular shades last night so the PH2 was used