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I feel that a catch-all thread for DIY alternative housing/buildings is warranted. Post your plan for feedback, ask questions, etc.

How viable is living in a cabin in a large greenhouse? I would love to have house on one end, grass lawn in the middle, and crops on the other end.
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>>2023476
It is very viable* plan, fren.

*as long as you double or triple the budget for maintaining the thing. It cost a lot to seal a leakage every other month or to change something broken too.

When I was 14 I had the same dream
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>>2023476
>How viable is living in a cabin in a large greenhouse?
Yes it is viable, but like most things in the building industry it all comes down to money.
When you put a house inside a greenhouse the price per square foot goes up.
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A whole thread that would catch all you rejects of society into one van loving, box reinforcing, newspaper stuffing, half assing it lump of retard? You got a deal Howie!
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>>2023476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ghnDOFbNQ
Comfy.
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Turning all boards into containers for generals is retarded and R*ddit cancer
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In a greenhouse? Too hot. Pipe dream is a greenhouse, with home underground, and a big tower.
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>>2023476
>living in a cabin in a large greenhouse
you would overheat and die you silly sod
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>>2023476
>living in a cabin in a large greenhouse
So long as you call it either Ol' Musty or Lil Moldy
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>>2023476
This would be incredibly healthy. You want your bare skin exposed to amplified UV radiation as much as possible.
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>>2023510
Go away you angry drunk
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>>2023853
>You want your bare skin exposed to amplified UV radiation as much as possible.
Greenhouses don't amplify UV radiation dummy.
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>>2023853
>amplify radiation
>amplify retardation
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>>2023476
Just watch biodome and call it a night bro
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>>2023510
have fun living from mortgage to mortgage...
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>>2023917
kek
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polytunnel is actually doable as a retard and cheap to maintain
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>>2024514
>polytunnel is actually doable as a retard and cheap to maintain
Any chance it would offgas VOCs in hot weather?
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>>2023476
SOMEONE KILL ME PLEASE
Wife and I are trying to buy a house. Here's what we're running into -

Wanna buy a 400,000 house? Here's what you're gonna need -

$40,000 - Down payment (10%)
$9,000 - Lender fees, preloading property taxes, PMI, home owners insurance for 3 month, etc.)
$49,000 - TOTAL needed to secure the loan

Ok cool, we have $58k no problem we can do that. But wait for the house you're looking at you still need -

$500 - Appraisal
$500 - Inspection
$500 - Sewer inspection
$1,000 - earnest money you loose if you decide to not buy the house
$2,500 - TOTAL EXTRA WHEN YOU CLOSE

Ok, so like we need 51,500. We can still do that

But WAIT! Houses are selling for more than they're worth right now! You're gonna need to offer 25k over asking price! And guess what? IF THE HOUSE DOESN'T APPRAISE AT 425K, THEN YOU'RE ONLY GETTING THE LOAN FOR 400K AND YOU BETTER HAVE AN EXTRA 25K LAYING AROUND TO COVER! AND GUESS WHAT ELSE? IF YOU DON'T, THEN YOU LOOSE THE $1,000 EARNEST MONEY. NOW YOU HAVE NO HOUSE, AND YOU'RE $1,000 FURTHER AWAY FROM GETTING ONE!!!

FUCK why is the housing market so COMPETITIVE???

RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
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>>2023476
Price to build a house? $175 per square foot

Price to build a barndominium? $90 per square foot

Why would anyone ever build a wooden house when they can get a metal one that will never rot for half the price? The interiors look the same, it's just half the price!!!
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>>2026769
Here in Europe we have this thing where you have 6 weeks to get your loan secured and if it fails (but you can show proof of effort) the contract is void and you pay €0.
Downpayment is 10%, but the bank will pay it forward once you show them that you’ve secured the loan.
Appraisal will almost always confirm your bid unless you go way overboard, since they look at the market as well.

€300k house means you need €10k cash
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>>2026769
>FUCK why is the housing market so COMPETITIVE???
People are fleeing the cities because they are locked down. Money is cheap because of QE requiring low interest rates.
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Would you consider buying a house which is in a state of high disrepair, then choosing to live in it without renovation but instead using alternative compensation means to be a form of Alternative Housing?
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Say an example like this house which sold for $18,500. The owner plans on spending 100k in renovations. But what if you just... didn't do that?

https://youtu.be/YD_AyFEaWwU

The house has been standing for decades. It would probably stand for many more years without doing much of anything to it. What if you just did as much cleaning as you can, covered up any dangerous elements, and then just moved in?
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>>2026855
You could do that, but structural repairs are expensive, and if the roof has been compromised they could be pretty pressing. Get the house inspected before you buy it and try to find a good balance between structural stability and the chance of dying in a ghetto.
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>>2026882
How run down do you think a person could get away for occupancy?

I think you'd constantly have issues with the city. So probably best choice is to look for a house in the country if you're going to try this.
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>>2023476
how retarded are you to waste space, resources and money growing fucking grass.

You don't need fucking grass, it is an outdated useless custom that people do.
Just put down a wood deck or something that doesn't need as much water and maintenance like a cool species of moss.
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>>2026769
Here in EU in some states is illegal to live outside the city network
Oh cool, I found a nice country cottage with 1/4 acre near a quite village - guess what, its illegal to live there, you have to pay the county fees to change the land status to residential, after that becomes illegal to have a building for living, without running water from the state department and electricity, heh guess what, you have to pay for the companies to build the infrastructure to your address, what? you want a road, sure buddy, but you can't pave it yourself, either wait 18 months for approval or hire a company? what there are only 2 licsensed companies around? yeah that would be around 20k for the road, no, not total, just fees and taxes, we charge about 200 m2 otherwise

You'd be amazed how good you have it, ameribro, we are kings of being cucked by the system here.
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What do you think of concrete domes?
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>>2026934
what if me and my dog like playing in grass
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>>2026855
That doesn't look half bad desu. The main thing to worry about is mold/water damage, which if you just cover it up will come right back and slowly poison you. Replacing insulation yourself isn't terribly expensive, but is a PITA and you need to fix the roof first or it'll ruin the new insulation too.
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>>2026961
why have they made such laws? What was the intention?
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If no one is living in the property then it's fine as is, but the second someone actually moves in the city will condemn the house as unsafe to occupy and they'll kick you out until all necessary renovations are met. There's a reason it's for sale, and there's a reason no one is living there. We had a customer at work rent one of our mini excavators and go knock down the house of an old lady because it was in such disrepair the city condemned it/deemed it unsafe to inhabit and she couldn't afford to fix it. She ended up having to go live with her daughter. It's sad, but what if the house was to catch on fire because rats chewed up the wiring and then it burned down other houses next to it? Or what if it was to fall over and crush the house next to it? Or what if it fell down with her inside? There's a reason houses get condemned. It's for the safety of the inhabitant, and the safety of the surrounding property owners. Even if the houses around it are shitty, they don't belong to you and you have no right to destroy them by extension of your house falling on them, catching on fire, etc. You can buy that house, but don't expect to move in until all necessary repairs are done.
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>>2026961
EU here too, in my country it's pretty much the same shit, but there are loopholes everywhere, so you can tell the government to fuck right off.
For example while it's illegal to have your residency and live in a cabin in the woods or whatever, as long as you have another address given as a primary residency, you can have a "vacation residence" that doesn't have to comply with all this regulatory bullshit.

In short, tell the government you live with your brother or whatever, then do your own business in the middle of nowhere if you want. They have no way to prove you are lying, since for that they would have to prove that you are more than 6 months in a year in this secondary housing.

And I'm not even starting on the hoops I have to jump through for my guns.
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>>2026961
one of the rare areas in which the uk is based. If there has ever been a residence on a site you have a right to rebuild it if you own the land.
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>>2026769
Answer; Buy a more affordable property. My house cost less than 100k. I have the money to pay off the loan note in 3 more paychecks.
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>>2027439 was meant for >>2026855
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>>2026855
There's no substitute for knowledge. Best to do that shit in the country and the best way to do it is buy something with enough land you can place a trailer or RV to live in then renovate the house.

If you're poor, stop being poor or you'll never get anywhere. You don't need to be rich but you do need to become a DIY beast to get the most from your income.
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>>2026978
Expensive but great for wildfire areas. If you're serious you will study enough to answer your own questions and you'll study enough variety to make an informed comparison.
Take the time you waste on conventional entertainment and study construction and DIY. Your life will be much better for it as you'll be able to choose what will best suit your opportunities.
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>>2027722
This, and with it paid off you can retire early. I did same as you and retired at 47.
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>>2027722
My wife and I live in a house that cost $150k and if we really gave a shit and buckled down we could have it paid off in 24 months. But it's like .11 acres which is way to small for us. We want a decent sized house on some land that close to the capital of our state so we understand we're gonna have to pony up some cash and we're ok with that. In only 7 years our house has gone up in value to be worth $225k (every year it went up $10k in value) so we have some equity to apply towards our next house. But in my current house without even leaving my garage and stepping a single foot on the driveway I can literally count 8 houses. My wife and I both grew up in the country. I was on 24 acres and she was on 100 acres, so we miss the space. Also I need a bigger shop, we want to plant a garden, park a trailer/boat/camper on the land and have enough parking for 4 cars (us and two kids some day). But we also wanna be able to go into town and do stuff. Fuck man, our generation is getting butt fucked on housing. The dollar just doesn't go as far as it used to. I have NO idea how our kids are gonna afford to buy a house.
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Let's talk underground homes.
Shipping containers are retarded and box culvert is somewhat less retarded.
But what about treating it like one big basement?
Wouldn't building it like a conventional basement be cheaper and require less maintenance etc?
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>>2026934
Thank you!!!! Who the fuck wants to spend their whole weekend on a lawn anyways?
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>>2026775
barndominium has got to be the most repulsive name for a home you could have called that
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>>2026769
Banks realized they can basically print money by over-lending people. Hard to buy a house for 20k when everyone else is bring 100k to the table thanks to mr. goldstein. It’s impossible to buy a house without a ridiculous life ending loan nowadays intentionally.
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>>2026775
I was an ironworker and a metal building erector. I would never pay for, let alone LIVE IN one of these piece of shits
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>>2026855

Enjoy crackheads moving in with you
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>>2026769
Write a contingency in your offer that the home must come back with an inspection thats favorable to your standards, and appraise for the offer price. Then you dont lose your earnest money silly.
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>>2026978
Never lived in a concrete dome but I lived in a condo midrise with concrete floors, ceiling and pillars. The bad part is that you can't modify much once everything is built so you need to really think out your interior. Drywall of course can be torn down and walls rebuilt in different layouts but anything that runs through the concrete such as utility conduits are insanely difficult to relocate.
The good part was thermal loading. The concrete tended to moderate temperature swings between day and night or even between days. I usually didn't have to turn on the heat until part way through winter because so much thermal energy had been absorbed during the warmer months. In the spring the floors took a while to absorb enough heat to not be cold to walk on but that didn't last too long. This was in Georgia. In other parts of the country with less or more thermal energy, the utility of the concrete storing heat might be completely different.
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I really like curved metal buildings.
Storm tested, and easy to assemble
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>>2030176
I looked into underground houses because I'm somewhat sensitive to noise so having lots of dirt between me and the world seemed like a good thing. Most underground homeowners report that it really does work for that purpose though if you bring in things that make noise like refrigerators and air conditioners, you've ruined that isolation. Good thing is in most of the country you'll never need an AC underground.
The biggest issue almost everywhere is moisture. No matter how many barriers are erected, there's always moisture seeping in somehow. And if you get things really wrong or something simply changes the flow of water on the surface nearby, you can suddenly have a flood of water leaking in.
I did see an intriguing property a year or so ago where someone built a large daylight basement with the intention of building a huge house on top of it. Don't know if they ran out of money or if the person contracting the home build died, but it was put on the market with the basement completely finished but with no house on top of it. There was a full kitchen, bathroom, and everything. They also put a roof on it. And since it was a daylight basement, it had a patio with a nice view. But because it was so unconventional, there was no way to get a mortgage for it. You'd have to get a construction loan and actually build something on top of it. Since I didn't have the cash to buy it, I passed.
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>>2030490
That's how the first subprime mortgage crash happened though
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>>2030490
I dont think you understand how fiance and monetary policy actually work.
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>>2028265
where teh fuck do you live? Even in MO I cant find for 150k unless im in bumfuck no where with a +1hr commute to shitzberg
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>>2026978
Sounds like a terrible idea. Concrete is a sponge and I wouldn't want a sponge acting as a roof. I'm sure you can put some plastic derivate underneath and spend tens of thousand of dollars on waterproofing and insulation, but it's still a silly idea that only makes the whole house more expensive and complicated.

Also, it depends where you build. In a swampy area it will suck up moisture, in a cold area it will be impossible to heat up all of that mass during winter. It might be viable in a hot, dry place with proper insulation/decoupling of internal and external walls.
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>>2027278
Corruption mostly. These companies (water, electricity, pavement...) are owned by friends of governors, at least in my country, and they need to do stupid ass projects to earn money, and to launder money too. It's also a reinforcement to local companies or some shit, but that's just how they promote it.
Also, building contractors are the ones who rule here, and they influence the government. For example, you can have a really large estate, or be in posession of a hill. But, unless you have power, you WON'T live there, because that terrain "is not buildable, for your own safety". Things change when a company asks them to do it. It doesn't matter wether you're in a national park, or in the middle of the beach, they move some strings, and build shitty houses no one buys.
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>>2030176
what if you made something like a Hobbit house? Build a structure and then move enough earth to build a hill around it. So you walk in the door, but everything else is under at least a couple feet of earth? If you get your ventilation right and have enough earth on top, you might get a pretty good compromise of features/issues.
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>>2026978
I'm just thinking of the problem the Dymaxion House had: the walls are round, but furniture and appliances are square.
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>>2033074
Use absorbtion refrigerator.
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>>2023510
spoken like a true bank cuck. go pay your mortgage.
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>>2033718
Like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix11VQ8f7uY
Try not to be distracted by the badonkadonk and jubblies.
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>>2026961
>>2027649
Can you say which countries? Not everywhere in the EU is the same
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>>2034309
damn, that IS distracting. I like the idea.
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>>2034309
she talks about getting snow, but holy shit, I see no insulation anywhere. In the back, whatever, but in the front it's just OSB and siding?! What magical mountain is this where that all doesn't freeze immediately in bad weather?
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>>2034309
That looks so dangerous and uncomfortable.
A bed next to an unsealed door? You can even see light through the cracks.

Also, in what country can you just put storage as an "afterthought" instead of filling that space with dirt and call it "permitted"? Where I'm from that would invalidate the entire building - such a huge modification. They also put heating elements in that cramped spot next to a living space with exposed raw wood.

That looks like a nightmare to live in even for a couple of days, and likely won't last more than a few years before crumbling down. It is a nice work of art though.
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>>2034459
>>2034431
>>2034309
This lady has all the hallmarks of a trust-fund kid with minimal experience and an audience. That house looks like she did a couple things right, and a lot of things wrong. Her entire video was a showcase for her tits and ass, because the execution of that house was pretty fucking substandard. I am stunned that that thing passed permit at ALL. It's like someone wanted to build a playhouse for their kid and had more budget than they knew what to do with.
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It's probably not registered as a dwelling. It's a semi-rural county and the property is off-grid so they might allow accessory buildings without a primary dwelling especially if the land is zoned agricultural. The county inspector likely isn't going to give the lady with nice T&A much trouble as long as she agrees to not live there permanently.
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>>2034500
Ok, I take all of this back. The house is on AirBNB and booked through November so it must be permitted as a habitable dwelling. That county claims on their website to require compliance with the International Building Code and the amendments by the State of Washington. Given that the video has over ten million views, the county must be aware of the house.
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recently I've been wanting to build a house inside a big garage. that way I can park inside, have a work shop, then walk upstairs to my house and look down at my workshop rather than a yard. also privacy cause fuck people looking at me and shit
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>>2034844
Maybe the county just doesn't care.
Many people living in rural areas would laugh at you if you asked about building permits and such.
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>>2034870
Quite possibly. Lots of rural counties take a "as long as no one complains" attitude to this kind of thing. Also it might be in compliance. I'm giving the guys upthread complaining about the construction the benefit of the doubt but maybe they're wrong about it not meeting code.
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>>2034854
thats the dream, man. wall to wall tools and a couple of lifts.
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>>2026769
I bought a nice little place for 55000 USD in the South in December. It's nothing fancy just a modest 2 bed 1 bath. Made in the 50s. Brick Veneer. Only one neighbor. .5 acre. Certainly needs some TLC but I'm very glad to have purchased it I think houses are only going to grow in price any time soon. Only thing I'll bitch about is the woodburning fireplace smoke shelf that turned into dust and I have to rebrick it so the damper shuts properly. Otherwise I put a new roof on with new flashings and updated the crawlspace. Attic insulation is up next after the fireplace. About 63000 in total now.

Consider the South anon.
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>>2035248
How is the area for teen gun crime?
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>>2035622
Town of 2500 so none to really speak of but the closest city has pretty bad crime for the area. It's about 30 minutes North of here. The orcs tend to settle there.
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>>2034854
So a carriage house with an inlaw loft apartment.
That's my plan for a garage.
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>>2026769
Lmao have fun being broke forever to afford the house you retard.
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>>2030493
Why?
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>>2033473
It'll be how the second subprime mortgage crash happens too.
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can you park a bunch of those fema trailers next to each other and cut a hole in the walls and bridge them? or am i a big dumdum poop head
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Sure but it's going to be easier to park them near each other with the doors aligned and then build an enclosed walkway between the units. Typically there will be two doors at opposite ends of the trailer. In some cases there might be a third door, which would give you some more configuration options for how you arrange the joined trailers.
Keep in mind that you'll want the gap between trailers to be large enough for the windows to receive light and for the enclosed walkways to have doors if you've attached walkways to all of the trailer doors.
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>>2038237
How do I qualify for one of these?
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I just wanna dig a hole and live there but it keeps collapsing
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>>2026769
>Wife and I are trying to buy a house.
Now is one of the worst possible times to buy a house. Wait a few years until he next bubble pops and it will get better.
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>>2038834
Make yourself unemployable through criminal convictions.
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>>2034309
That's a secondary residence.
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>>2026769
>But WAIT! Houses are selling for more than they're worth right now!
No, it's just what they're worth now. We've added around 40 million people to the population in the last 15 or so years. All those people gotta live somewhere and they're buying up all the affordable properties. Every single immigrant that comes to the country is competition for housing. That's why housing is wildly expensive in areas with lots of immigrants like California. The prices aren't going to go down. It's not a bubble like the housing crisis where a bunch of dumb boomers took out ARM loans and got foreclosed when their interest adjusted. Nowadays a lot of the property is just being bought up as a rental investment and the prices will never go down if the investors never sell (this is what happened in New York).
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>>2039079
>It's not a bubble
Right. Just like the last one wasn't. And the one before that, and the one before that, and the one before that.
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>>2039079
>No, it's just what they're worth now.
>Bubbles don't exist

Yeah, if you haven't been watching the news for the last year, the response to the pandemic issues included the lowering of mortgage rates to absurdly low rates and a huge exodus of people from large cities as the economy adjusted to a big wave of work from home jobs.
Both of these factors created a large surge in house prices in most areas of the USA that will probably get tempered as the economy picks up again and rates either get cut or the true economic fallout of the shutdown kicks in once people nationwide don't have forclosure and eviction amnesty anymore.
If it weren't for the federal govt giving people handouts this year, housing prices would have tanked almost nationwide

>The prices aren't going to go down
That's what the boomers said in 2007
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>>2039079
>why housing is wildly expensive in areas with lots of immigrants like California.
This is 100% false. Housing is expensive in California because home owners have to compete with the tech bros and airbnb renters.
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>>2033637
I live in Texas and I'm trying to buy a place around Austin that's like a half an acre, 1,600+ square feet or more and 20 minutes from town for $425k or less. It's next to impossible. Sure you can buy a smaller house for much less, but then you run out of room quick and I want space for toys and a shop. Like damn dude, it shouldn't be that hard to own a half acre next to a decent town where you'll actually have opportunities, vs living in some cheap house in the middle of nowhere and you'll have to commute 40 minutes to get to work. It's Austin, not New York. Goddamn Californians are buying up the real estate moving here to work at the new Tesla plant opening up, and they're paying cash which makes it really hard to be competitive. Pretty lame when a native Texan can't even get a house in his own state. And yes there are cheaper houses, but owing LAND is everything. I can buy 2x4s at Home Depot and spruce up any place, but I can't by more land. So having some land close to town is key
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>>2033637
Sorry I just re-read that. I live in San Antonio and I bought my house in 2013 for $150k. It was built in 1986 and it's in a cul-de-sac in a neighborhood on 0.11 acres. 1,700 square feet, two story. Today my 150k house is worth 225k. I die every time I see those numbers. If I was a first time home buyer and had to come up with 225k today and all that would get me is my current house, I would want to kill myself. The housing market is fucked.
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>>2039103
>half an acre
>1,600+ square feet or more
>20 minutes from Austin
>$425k
Gee I wonder why that's hard to find. It's not like there isn't 200000 other people in Austin who want the same thing.
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>>2039100
That's only in small areas. There are over 14 million houses in California. How many AirBnBs do you think there are? They're just a convenient scapegoat. Same with the tech sector. The rest of California is owned by landlords renting out to 5 people splitting rent, usually immigrants.
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>>2030481
That is literally what they are called, or a "barndo" for short
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>>2039092
Eviction amnesty disappearing wont change anything. Landlords will still just sit on their property. There isn't going to be a mass wave of foreclosures again in the near future. If anything, people getting mortgages with rock bottom interest rates secures that.
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>>2039109
When people say housing is expensive in California they aren't talking about Weaverville, they are talking about places people actually want to live.
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>>2030493
Why not? I hear they are supposed to be cheaper and just as good.
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>>2038834
Fuck's sake boys, looks like we got a new resident
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>>2039079
This is sadly the truth. It's crazy to me that I pay $1,250 a month for the $150k house I'm buying, when two houses down the people there are paying $1,650 a month to rent their house. It's literally cheaper to buy, but unfortunately not everyone will qualify for a mortgage.
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>>2039115
There's 1.4 million households in Los Angeles with an average price of $800k. How many do you think are AirBnB or tech? Not even remotely close to the total. Again, you're falling for a scapegoat. There are around 2.2 million illegal immigrants in California, not even counting legal first generation immigrants and refugees, they are competing for houses and are willing to live several families to a home. That's what is driving up housing prices.
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>>2039108
There were 3 houses in Manchaca (just south of Austin) a few months ago, all in the $365k - $380k range, all half an acre or more, all 20 mins from Austin. Then the dang Californians started buying up stuff and now it's fucking nuts. My realtor and lender both said it turned into the god damn wild wild west over night. $600k houses selling for $725k ($125k over!!!) , a couple in our similar situation put 6 offers on 6 different houses all 20k over asking price and didn't get a single one. One house had 96 offers in 90 minutes. 96 FREAKING OFFERS ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? How the hell am I supposed to compete with that??? God damn Californians, GO HOME NO BODY WANTS YOU HERE
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>>2039133
>you're falling for a scapegoat.
>proceeds to name his favorite scapegoat
Right, gotcha
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>>2026855
Bought for $18,500 and loan for 100,000 for renovations to make it habitable? Miby doable at a stretch and over a number of phases of construction/refurbishment.
But the renovations on that place are 150,000 + and more, if she wants to get the finish she's looking for (i dought it will be any time soon)
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>>2039153
>There are a million illegal immigrants in LA
>There are only 1.4 million households in LA
>This couldn't possibly adversely affect housing prices anon, it's gotta be the the 24,000 AirBnBs in LA doing it!
Use your fucking brain anon.
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>>2039159
Each immigrant buys it's own house, one per immigrant, right ?
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>>2039164
No. Illegal immigrants can't afford $800k houses. Investors buy the houses and rent to several illegals who all pool their money to live there a roommates. This means that the baseline monthly mortgage price is now set at what several people can afford, as if a house is on market for anything less an investor will buy it to rent it out for profit.
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>>2039170
We get it. You hate people with dark skin. Please don't pretend this hatred is rational.
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>>2039177
So now we're at the point where you can't refute logic so you assume I hate people based on their skin color. No, anon, I hate them because they are here illegally, there's too many of them and it's fucking up housing prices because no sane landlord is going to rent at a price a single person can afford when there's literally one million illegals that are only here to siphon off money and send it back to their family in the home country that are willing to not only not buy a house and to rent it instead, but also to live five people to a house all paying $700 a month netting the landlord $3500 and pressuring prices upward.
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>>2026775
>Price to build a house? $175 per square foot

If you're getting assfucked by a GC, sure

Even with corona-pricing you still get into timber frame for $50/sq-ft for materials and some specialist labor provided you don't have a retarded floorplan

>Price to build a barndominium? $90 per square foot

Again, GC rape. maybe $60. labor is more specialized and you're unlikely to solo most red iron kits if you don't know what you're doing, but you can maybe solo some flying truss and Cold-formed buildings.
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>>2039183
I note that we started in Austin, then with claims for all of California, then just LA and concluded with post hoc justification.

If you want "logic" then how about : brown people use housing more efficiently then white people. The invisible hand of the market is of course going favour the more efficient use.
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>>2039177
>nigs nog
>yah nah I'm gonna avoid that
You rasis!
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>>2039217
>I note that we started in Austin
I never mentioned Austin.

>If you want "logic" then how about : brown people use housing more efficiently then white people. The invisible hand of the market is of course going favour the more efficient use
That's correct. It will continue to favor efficiency until you end up with the Kowloon Walled City again. Nobody should be advocating for that.
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>>2039149
Don't live in metro Austin.
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>>2039582
God that looks awful.
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>>2039614
You deserve to live in a cardboard box with a $500,000 mortgage.
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Fuck it, just give me a yurt.
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Fuck, here in Spain it's even worse.

To buy a 400.000€ house you can only get a mortgage for 80% (90% sometimes if LUCKY).
So right off the bat you need 80.000€.

Then there's 11.5% sales-tax and stamp duty, so you'll need 46.000€ MORE. So now you're up to needing 126.000€.

THEN, there's agent fees and lawyer fees so expect another few % pluf expect 5% more on top of the whole thing for unexpected expenses. So that's, say 7% more, i.e. another 28.000€.

So to buy your 400.000 house you'll need 154.000€.

AAAaaaaaaaahhhhhggggggh....
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>>2023476
What's /diy/'s thoughts on earthships? I'd love to build one, sans windmill.
Only problem is unfortunately the biggest attraction to doing it: there is no way a house for which half of the walls are made of tires and dirt is permittable or insurable.
Without them, of course now the costs are increasing, but you also lose the thermal properties.
Any ideas on how to do this without tires? Could it work with simple concrete blocks instead? Or would that be cold as fuck in winters? Especially with no backfill.
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>>2039905
they always end up ugly and moldy
just build a regular green house and a nice summer room on the north-west side of your house like a white man
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>>2026769
>>2026792
the question is, will house prices continue to go up? been trying to buy a place but it's so competitive rn
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>>2039920
He is white and this is proof enough.
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>>2027649
This is the correct answer.
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>>2023476
I am looking at picking this place up but it has no septic system
I want to live there full time . I could stand the metal building for a main shelter.. its decently finished and should keep me from the elements but I come here to ask for ideas bout where and how to locate and construct a proper composting toilet structure aka outhouse. Look at the images of the property lay out .. where should such a structure be built. far enough away from the living area but not so fat that if I need it on a dark Winter's night I break a leg finding it.

I want to lay a concrete floor and use metal supports. it will need electricity run from the solar inverter underground to power the fan on the toilet and a light . I want it to look finished and be of durable construction not just a simple wooden outhouse.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/100-Vista-Galisteo_Cerrillos_NM_87010_M11929-92952?view=qv

I thought I could breed fancy dogs, raise goats for milk and make cheese
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>>2023476
There is some show on netflix where a couple did this. Can’t remember the name of the show.
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>>2026769
2nd gen hongkonger to usa here
the ton of mainland chinese people flooding in with chinese money doesn't help.
There are entire blocks of empty million dollar homes near me owned by chinese
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>>2040268
Vancouver has been fighting about this for years. It's as high as 30% of all sales going to mainland chinese sometimes. They just voted in an empty home tax of 1.25% of the total value of the property a year if the building isn't occupied for at least 6 months a year, lets see if it does anything. Of course they're not actually going to sell or anything, it's explicitly intended to create "Long term rental homes." Can't have normal people actually owning anything.

All the instructions on the website are in english first and chinese second lmao
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>>2027439
bootlicker
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>>2039889
You can't afford it, you're too poor. The system works. Half million houses are for millionaires.
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>>2039905
The design in the pic doesn't work. Many tried, but it gets damp, it molds and air gets pretty much toxic from all the organic matter in the air after a couple of years (or sooner depending on the climate).
Also, tires shed so much plastic in the environment you're better off having a proper, modern insulation if you're making this for the environment.
Yes, it costs a lot more than using waste.
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>>2040202
>I thought I could breed fancy dogs, raise goats for milk and make cheese
If you're not already doing this or have done this on a small scale, even on someone else's property/company, you're going to regret it and waste a shit ton of money, time and health.
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>>2034309
Wow, what an absolutely pathetic design.
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>>2040539
sounds like my internal self sabotage... why do you say this? You get goats, feed them quality organic stuff , gather their milk, buy established cultures from France and Spain for that Old World flavour, build a little cavern in the side of a hill with shelves and let it ripen underground , sell to fancy shmancy outlets in Santa Fe or online.... as for breeding doggoes it has pretty large cages,, buy a male and female of some in demand breed , let nature take its course and sell the pups.
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>>2040583
Ironically, the scale is too small even for someone who is Hobbit sized. It's really not a bad first attempt and would have made for a really great backyard playhouse for children. Even flawed, it's enough of a novelty to be booked up as an Airbnb for eight months in advance.
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what type of structure is this? am i an idiot for wanting to live in one?
essentially a big garage with a living quarters up stairs that looks down on the garage.
kitchen on ground floor under living quarters separated by a wall from the main garage.
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>>2040603
it's called demyelinated upstairs condo
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>>2040603
Good luck heating it up
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>>2040598
Working with animals is nasty if you're not used to it. Go try it out before, even some volunteering at some animal shelter.

Also, if you want a business, you need to know the market.
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>>2039106
I wish I lived in a cul de sac. I live between two of the main streets in my semi urban town. Once in a while someone parks partially in front of my driveway and there are people who blast the bass in their cars driving by all the time.

I’m trying to move out into upper NJ where it’s more properly suburban, but as some people have mentioned in this thread the supply of housing in the current market is not good.
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>>2040603
Consider closing off the entire upper area if you want it warm in a cold climate. If you're tropical, fuck, go for it!
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>>2040691
that would be the plan. like a windowed area you would see in an old school assembly factory. not exactly like that, but im sure you know what im talking about.
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>>2040328
lmao, my cousins visited us on the east coast from vancouver and we were talking about chinese money and the real estate there and they were saying "well at least it's good for the economy"
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>>2023476
Anyone have any experience with fachwerkhaus? They seem like the way to go.
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>>2026855
niggers did this damage
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>>2040945
Obsolete.
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>>2038916
Lets say the market crashes in 4 years.
You buy a 400k house with a 30 year mortgage. Then in 4 years you would have paid back more then 50k. So unless the price drops with 50k its still cheaper to buy a house now. Also the interest rates are extremely low right now.
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>>2041226
Plus if we end up with hyperinflation (a good possibility) and you have a fixed rate mortgage, inflation ends up paying for most of your house.
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Will lumber prices ever come back to reality?
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>>2040715
That'd be dead simple to frame that last wall. Just make sure you insulate it well. Garage lofts like that are a good match for spray in insulation. Pay some shlob to do the spraying and the rest of it is pretty easy. (you saw off the foam that bubbles past the studs and then put up your wallboard.) The last thing is how are you heating it? If it's forced air, where is the furnace and make sure you insulate the ducts. If it's woodburning... Make sure you are damn careful with your fireproofing when you design that...
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>>2041293
Whenever Canada opens the border.





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