What's the most based trade to get into? I'm looking to get into a trade but don't know which one.>Britfag if that's important
Definitely not HVAC
>>1956034>in the UKBrick layer or plumber, also professional paki remover.
Plumbing will make you want to kill yourself
They all suck, commercial hvac is the most tolerable
>>1956128plumbing ain’t that bad mate.
what about electrical?
>>1956034look into union chemical factorys wages
>>1956034I'm an electrician. Commerical/industrial electric is pretty based. I work mostly residential though which is kinda lame. Kinda wish I would've done welding/fabrication instead or automotive diagnostics. Running a speed shop building race cars would be cool. Depends on what your idea of based is. Unclogging the toilet at mcdonalds at 2am on a Saturday is not based. Neither is roofing or laying flooring.
>>1956175i fucking love this little green fuck
>>1956175Residential is cool if you don’t mind low pay and you’re down to do the same repetitive tasks all day (if you’re building new houses; just nail plastic boxes to studs and staple romex from point a to point bCommercial is fun bc you get to do stuff like operate heavy equipment and make fun of gay effeminate architects+engineers
>>1956181me too lad, he gets around
>>1956034plumber or electrician ol boy. don't know about the UK but plumbers seem to make more here in Canada
>>1956034I don't know about bongistan, but in the states for residential it's carpentry. You'll have to put in some tough years framing, roofing, doing crete work, but if you have a decent head on your shoulders it's the fastest way to become a boss. Then it's just driving around, supervising, taking phone calls, ripping butts, and shooting nips all day. Raking in fistfulls of cash while telling the sparkies and plumbers what you need done.
>>1956149The coworkers are.
Metal fab goyim it'sBased and pays good work all over the place too
its all good just dont stoop to anything low as carpentry
I do fire sprinklers. Nice thing is once you get a license and backflow certified you can just do inspections and it's cheese. If you still want to install it's pretty easy if you get in with a good company.
>>1956337Carpenters are one rung above laborer. Both think they know everyone else’s job.
>>1956034Do whatever. Learn the skills necessary and save a bit to work on your own. Self-employed Chads, regardless of trade, make bank. I'd only work for a company if I were to make at least $100k. Don't be a fag and you'll make connections. Do favors, advertise at first, etc.
>>1956175Mechanic here, diagnosis does not pay
>>1956034I’m a sole trader carpenter and gardener, trained in both. Idk what it’s like to be a contracting carpenter but I just make cool shit in people’s gardens. Like custom sheds, fences, gazebos, arbours, then I plant them with nice plants. You have to do a little hard groundwork sometimes but otherwise it’s great, be out in the fresh air and sun, no expectation to work in the rain, making fairly big impressive things and planting trees.
Do a mechanical or electrical apprenticeship and get into industrial technician or fitter jobs. Once you're qualified you can easily make £20 an hour as a contractor which depending on the client and whether the work is inside of IR35 or not can mean you can dodge nearly all of your income tax too. You can also travel the world doing contractor work for good money also. Working as a contractor also means you actually get paid overtime too which is normally either 1.5x or 2x your base rate so it's not hard to earn solid cash.Welding is a good trade and in short supply but the value is in the specific standards and specifications that you're 'coded' (certified) for. Mech and elec is a lot more transferable.Frankly if you want to be a generalist and earn decent money doing honest work then mech or elec tech/fitter is the career for you. T. Engineer
>>1957356 Forgot to mention £20/hr is just the start for good mech and elec work in a normal 40h week job, once you finish your apprenticeship. The more experienced you get the more that number goes up. Get good at something niche then start a company and hire your own apprentices and make even more money. Same applies to welding too but it takes much longer to get competent at all the things you'd need to be flexible in winning contract work, than simply doing a mech or elec apprenticeship.
>>1957357>>1957356Also as a tech, if you decide that you want to be a designer or an engineer, you can just send yourself back to college at the same time. Contractor pay as an engineer is decent. I'm not even 30 and I'm on £56/hr for a 37.5 hour a week job. I make as much as a medical consultant but 12 years younger, on 30% less hours and with half the stress.Tldr get into industrial mech/elec work
>>1956547I was doing residential inspections last week, figured I made around $1200 an hour. Just for manipulating the tampers and running the drain. Fucking ridiculous
>>1956034Cabinetry is a commonly overlooked trade and is quite varied. Like you've got furniture makers who make chairs and tables and shit, cabinet makers who make cabinets for kitchens and bathrooms. And you could also do shop/office fitting, which is effectively a glorified cabinet making. It's a relatively high precision wood trade, but an extremely rewarding one. Only issue is pay isn't exactly the best (at least here in Aus / mid20s(or maybe I'm a shitcunt)) when compared to some carpenters and joiners. Also less spastic dropkicks in cabinetry.
>>1957384cabinet makers are a dime a dozen if you are actually making cabinets. if you make furniture you get paid a lot but its hard to find solid work because no one wants to pay $5k for a table you spent weeks on when they can go to ikea and get some cheap shit that looks decent for 500. it might be rewarding but is probably better left as a hobby
>>1956034Probably plumber for $$$. By based do you mean cool, useful in everyday life, unique?
Personally, I prefer doing maintenance which sort of falls in with trade work. You can get a job anywhere. If you show that you're competent, you get a task list and are generally left alone to work in peace. Don't have to deal with a bunch of dumb drunk coworkers. Major catch, the pay is low. Best part is the variety. You may never be highly specialized, but you won't be bored out of your skull every day either.
>>1956034based on what?
>>1956337Probably a dump question but whats a sparky? An electrician? Welder?
>>1957310Sounds like my dream job, if I didn’t live in Scotland.
>>1956034go on your own and bid jobsas long as you keep thinking about working for a wage you will never make it
>>1957736Not OP but how do I get to this point? I’m just an apprentice and in my state you need to have a masters license to pull permits and (legally) take bids for contracts. There’s a guy I work with who started his own shop but I guess he’s not ready to 100% go out on his own yet because he still works for the contractor I work for 40h/wk. Where do I start after I get a masters license, if I wanted to go out on my own?
>>1956034Low voltage wiring. It's safe, you spend most of your time with upper middle class customers, your coworkers are mostly going to be white guys of average intelligence who like tinkering, beer, and modding their cars/computers/homes.
Considering electric work since the IBEW around me pays nice(almost $20/hr starting). I'm just not too sure if I can jump into 40hrs a week after being home for 8 months though and I don't know how the market will be in the coming months either. Heard that they're laying off guys for now because corona is slowing everything and jobs are running low. Might just go part time retail for a few months waiting for things to clean up
>>1957770>in my state you need to have a masters license to pull permits and (legally) take bids for contractsWhat the hell? I don't do work that requires a license so I can't really help you, sorry. Surely you can still do subcontracting for bigger companies or GCs? Pays a lot more than hourly.
>>1957923>I don't do work that requires a license so I can't really help you, sorry.Good for you
commercial HVAC is pretty good. i'm union and get good benefits, federal holidays/company holidays, bonuses, work vehicle, gas card, etc.the work can be shitty trying to troubleshoot and diagnose, install is fucking cake, retro is fun too. all around good trade. just full of fucking hicks tho
>>1957906IBEW member here, applications to join. have been closed for nearly a whole year. >>1957955Is commercial HVAC part of UA or SMART? I'm interested in learning HVAC.
>>1957384Cabinet Makers on the west coast have moved to MDF "particle board" production where most of the material is like Ikea. It's cut via CNC and assembled in the quickest form possible. The hinges, if done in the 32mm system are tapped on with a deadblow. It's very much the profession for those who seek to run their own business. But it's among the most profitable among "woodworking". Just because every homeowner seeks cabinets, and not custom furniture.My 2cents anyway , as someone who worked in a cabinet supply warehouse.
Was gonna make my own thread for this but reckon I can just ride the coat tails of this oneAny farriers out there who feel like giving advice to a dumb kid? First I wanted to get into welding but out here that's pretty much entirely an oil industry thing so I really doubt it'll be something worth doing by the time I'm actually at the peak of my working years. Farrier sounds good because out here the ratio of horses to people is like 1:1 so there's gotta be lots of demand for it even if the rest of the economy tanks. Also like the idea of being independent and not having to move innacity for jobs. Only thing I'm worried about is the fact that I've never really had anything to do with horses in my life so I have no frame of reference for what working with them is like.Idk, what are some things I should know before getting too excited? What were some things you wish you knew before getting into it? Any comments are appreciated.
>>1958010I would say first thing to do it get a job as a farm hand, get around the environment you will be working in, see if it suits you.
>>1958053Does that give you much experience with horses? I've been on and off farms quite a lot and it seems like farm hands are basically equipment operators who stick cows with needles and pull babies out of them.
>>1956034Building Engineer. I started in HVAC and did a handful of plumbing jobs. If you can get in with a hospital or school district it's the best pay for little work. You get paid the big bucks to change the thermostat for tenants. Most of my job is letting Telecom people into my electrical rooms. I change electrical ballast and unclog toilets. Change filters every 4 months and maybe a belt if they are worn on the 55-70 ton AC unit.
Is it worth going to trade school after completing a 4 year business degree? The job market is probably going to be terrible for the next few years and I haven’t learned shit in college. I’d like to learn a trade skill that will always be in demand so I don’t end up working at Target or something. I already have an associates degree so I wouldn’t need to do any of the core classes for a trade degree at my local community college. Was thinking of doing welding but not really sure. Any opinions from some trade veterans?
>>1958010Have you ever cleaned your toenails out and smelled the stuff that you removed? We had a guy some do a demonstration in school. When he took the old shoe off it smelled so bad all the girls and faggots were screeching. Just a heads up
Obviously low volt
>>1957310Sounds nice, where did you learn and where abouts do you work?
>>1956034I'm electronics and comms. I fix warships. It's pretty good but the other end of it is fixing gambling machines which would probably be pretty shit. Every trade can be based.
>>1959444Yeah I've heard the legends about farrier stankI've never encountered it in real life but generally smells don't bother me
>>1957961HVAC is part of UA
>>1956034Welding. Getting to dick around with steel and fire all day and get payed good money to do so is the best.
>>1959645Made me chuckle
As a 30+ britfag, is it too late to do an apprenticeship? I have a chem degree and years experience in labs and project managing in said labs, but I just want a change. Can manage the terrible pay for a couple of years.Actual anecdotes appreciated.
>>1959644>good moneyIf only. Guess I need to git gud and go down tig or pipe route.
>>1956034The only answer is arboriculture. It is the greatest trade.
>>1959478Low voltage guys are all faggots with pony hail haircuts
"Industrial Mechanic". Forklifts, scissor lifts, boomlifts, warehouse trucks, dockplates and fittings..Pay and companies tend to be mediocre and shady, but the pay is always steady, and you will never lack for work.
>>1956547How do I get involved in this? Submit an application form with my local union and see what happens?I'm nearing SHTF levels of unemployment here. Help an anon out please.
>>1956987But I dot.General Contractor
>>1960412No, you just now the carpenters. Everyone else is fucking you
>>1960416nah>hire cheap ass mexi subcontractors>let subs and a guy you hired for $14/hour run all the jobs >make subs buy all materials>get bills from subs>do nothing, mark up 25%>drive around in a F350 Platinum all day to different jobsites>leave quickly before anyone asks any questions>bail after getting 90% of payment with only 50% of work done>don't pay subs and find new ones on craigslist>make bankGeneral Contracting, a how-to book.
>>1956034Getting pegged by BBC
debt collectorthe kind that kills people
>>1956034I’m a plumbers apprentice but I also know how to weld (stick/tig/mig) and use all the tools fabricators use, I’ve also done some carpentry and landscaping as well metal working. At this rate I’ll be a Jack of a trades, master of none