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New thread, because the old one is practically at page 14.

Thread hymn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU

Last thread: >>1934818

>Haas automation videos.
https://www.youtube.com/user/haasautomation/playlists
>Titans of CNC
https://www.youtube.com/user/titanamericanbuilt/playlists
>Edge precision
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-kgF0sJFno

N.e.w.
>Setting up a grindall spindex on a surface grinder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9rcyIRTfz0
>Precision ground toolroom stones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVLXsq7pi9Y
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>>1950977
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EmsRGLxcGs
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>>1950977
Its great, give yourself at least 3 years of learning from the greybeards to get up to speed. Welding knowledge helps. It is a mix of engineering, math, coding if you cnc, and problem solving. pretty chill and you can make 150 if you are good in less than 3 yrs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsxLF-Db7uk

best part, start your own machine shop after.
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I told my coworker with zero machining experience I would help him finish his 80% lower this weekend. we're going to be doing it on a bridgeport, but I wrote up a g code program so I can stand behind him and tell him step by step where to go with the dro. can anyone with a g code simulator confirm that this looks right? I did mine on a haas mini mill with dynamic toolpaths so I can't just reuse that program. not sure if .125 doc is too much or not.

https://files.catbox.moe/7abt3d.txt
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>>1950977
Hey thats my pic, old though
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>>1951286
uhh google gcode viewer
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I had a nightmare I was trying to light my furnace, but the burning piece of paper I was jamming in there touched a wire and the wire insulation just burst into flames like a fuse and burned all the way up inside some box where more wires are as I was furiously smacking it to put it out, then a minute later I smelled more burning, pulled on some wires and plastic/rubber wire insulation was on fire

bare wires anons
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpHRBBKBrV8
Considering buying one of these.
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>>1951743
huh I just realized the tool and die guy has one of those too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTJa3FEMvl8
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>>1951743
sweet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m42JtDXCzes
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39
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>>1952930
that's nice anon
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>>1951743
called a place about buying one, said they have to see if it's still available.

it's available for inspection in like north carolina or something, I requested a video.
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>>1950977
What kind of grease/oil do I put on ballscrews?
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>>1953266
hmm I don't know

look in the maintenance manual
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>>1953266
2 liters of daphne multiway 32 as required according to maint. manual for a plain old SL-25

apparently there is a "force lubrication by plunger pump", not sure if that's the same as the automatic oiler. Probably is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyMCchh-kRY

Is this sort of like thread whirling?
https://youtu.be/vyMCchh-kRY?t=60
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Home built automatic tool changer, looks pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhQI7UNF3Bs
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>>1953308
yeah that is pretty cool, I'm already not wanting anything to do with hobby stuff tho
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My relief sculpt. This is just some shitty soft pine from an old cupboard door I tore out, but that's leads me to a question: What's a good wood for machining? My mill has a max spindle speed of 10600. I'm using a 1mm diameter tapered carving bit.
I would do contour cutting but it ups the runtime to unreasonable levels, and if I used a wider ball mill I wouldn't get some of the creases I'm going for.
Curious if anyone has any experience cutting wood, and what would be a good choice. As you can see cheap shit pine gets feathery, but I imagine I'm going to have to so a fair bit of sanding either way.
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>>1953473
Deer antler spray is a PED
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>>1953522
I don't watch football often, this is for my father in law.
I don't know fuck all about the current controversies or whatever.
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>>1953531
>ray lewis announces its his last year, team is on a roll towards super bowl
>tears his tri-cep, on average takes 3-4 months minumum to heal.
>3 weeks later he was playing again
>claims he had "Deer antler spray" therapy that nobody had ever heard of

Turns out it was just straight up HGH a strictly banned supstance, but nobody cared because he was a golden boy in the NFL. Not that surprising the the NFL swept it under the rug. They swept the fact that he stabbed a man to death, then paid a patsy to go to jail for him under the rug too.
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>>1953538
Yeah man, sports ball is shit, I haven't watched it with any consistency in like 7 years, and it was only because my friends watched it then.
But my father in law is retiring and moving to an island so I made this for him. The NFL nor the Ravens don't get any money from it, I assure you.

... Why did they try to lie about the deer antler spray shit, though? Some compound in that fucks with the results of an HGH test?
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>>1953544
>Why did they try to lie about the deer antler spray shit, though
So that the media swept it under the rug. They wanted the feel good story of old man Lewis winning the superbowl in his final season, so give him some bullshit out for why he failed the test.

I dont know why I even watch, my team sucks and its not even fun especially with the empty crowds this season.
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>>1953551
I meant the logic behind it, but aight.
Any idea what would be a decent wood to make it out of?
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https://www.mmsonline.com/articles/5-hard-lessons-from-a-28-year-old-startup-machine-shop-owner

>A friend still working for Superalloy at that time connected him with the purchasing department there. “Otherwise I wouldn’t have gotten the work,” he says. Indeed, his decade of job hopping was unintentionally a decade of establishing relationships with future clients. At the moment I paid him a visit, every one of his active clients except for Procter & Gamble was a former employer.

Need to find and talk to purchasing depts.

>>1953558
hardwood probably
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Hey guys, I've got a little 6" Atlas 10100 I got a while back for $200. Being what it is and me not being a machinist, I haven't used it much, especially with a three jaw chuck. I just found out about turning between centers and I already have a live center for the tail stock. I blacksmith enough to demonstrate a a local museum and thought a lathe dog would be fun to make with hand tools. I could forge and file the part easily enough, and tap the hole for the set screw(?) but I wanted to make sure that I'm not overlooking something that would send it flying off towards my vital bits. Does it have to be precise, or can I make one?
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>>1953590
>He attends to relationships because he knows how much the people he interacts with matter. “Purchasing people tend to like me. I get quotes back fast,” he says. Machine tool service people are also valuable; they visit a lot of plants. “I find connections through my connections,” he says. This is the only viable avenue he has found to finding new business.
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>>1953593
it needs to not be brittle
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>>1953558
idk try cocobolo
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>>1953558
It really depends on the limits of your machine
Some hardwoods are pretty tough
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>>1953618
It shouldn't have any problems cutting any wood I wouldn't think, I might have to turn the feedrate down a tad.
I got the machine for mainly making aluminum/plastic projects, but recently have just been cutting wood. I've done a few cuts on steel to test it, but that's pretty much it's limit.
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>>1953596
Neat. That's more than doable.
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>>1950977
Can anyone recomend a good book on machining?
Interested in learning to work with metal. Drilling, reaming, tapping, threading etc. What are good books I can read? Thank you
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>>1953655
machinery's handbook 30th
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>>1953655
Engineers Black Book
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxGBdpbJKho
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Anyone on here read G-code?

This posted code started drilling like a quarter inch above the surface of the piece, not going to full depth. I checked the tool offsets and everything was fine. Very odd unless this program isn't doing what I think it's doing.

[code]
N100(SPOT DRILLING)
G0 G28 U0.
G0 G28 W0.
M69 (SPINDLE BRAKE UNCLAMP)
G54
G98 G17 M45 (C AXIS JOINT)
G0 G28 H0.
T0404
M8
G97 S3000 M13 (ROTARY TOOL SPINDLE START)
G0 Z1.3
X0.9547 C-15.
G80
G0 Z0.9
G83 C-15. Z-0.375 R-0.5 Q2200 F7.5 M68 <-- should drill down 3/8 below surface right?
C-45. Q2200 M68
C-75. Q2200 M68
C-105. Q2200 M68
C-135. Q2200 M68
C-165. Q2200 M68
C165. Q2200 M68
C135. Q2200 M68
C105. Q2200 M68
C75. Q2200 M68
C45. Q2200 M68
C15. Q2200 M68
G80
G0 Z1.3
M5 (ROTARY TOOL SPINDLE STOP)
M9

G0 G28 U0.
G0 G28 W0.
M46 (C AXIS JOINT RELEASE)
G54

M30
[/code]
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>>1953958
>Q2200

something about this value seems odd
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>>1953986
>2200mm
>86 inch deep pecks
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>>1953989
>>1953986
Might just be saying 0.220" pecks
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Guys I can't stop huffing the layout ink... SNIIIIFFFFFFFF MMMMmmmm that lovely blue scent
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/6-In-1-Mini-Metal-Lathe-Tool-Jigsaw-Milling-Lathe-Drilling-Sanding-Machine/353083747223
Would this be okay for getting my feet wet as a hobbyist?
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sweet, couple more jobs came in

>brass, turning, boring, radial drill & tap
>steel pipe, turning, boring
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>>1954216
I guess I better actually get this crap done, thanksgiving is coming up.
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>>1954216
>>1954237
>tfw shit won't arrive until Friday

rrrreeee
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>>1954197
No
This is a very expensive hobby, the only way to get in cheap is to luck out with used shit you find locally.
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>>1953958
https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/cnc-machining/g83-canned-cycle-fanuc-18-t-control-121833/

might be related

>incremental R value?
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>>1954197
if a local machine shop says "and tool" in the name they probably sell used equipment too
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Check this out, it's a modified 3D printer that essentially works as a CNC mill. It can "drill" and machine steel.

Could this be an option for poorfags or apartment cucks who want to get into machining?

https://youtu.be/DINs7eMw7IQ
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>>1954819
No, it's a half baked, low powered EDM that barely works. Proper EDM has its uses, but it's not a replacement for standard machining tools
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>>1954859
ECM and EDM are very different though

>it's not a replacement for standard machining tools
Why not? If you can't use a mill, why wouldn't this be sufficient?
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>>1954862
>ECM and EDM are very different though
True, ECM is harder to setup and even less useful than EDM is, and is rarely used in the industry in comparison.

>, why wouldn't this be sufficient?
What on earth has convinced you it would be "sufficient" for anything? Did you watch the same video I did? Do you know nothing about machining at all?
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>>1954868
>ECM is harder to setup
Are you sure? I've seen super cheap ECM setups (including the one in the vid). EDM machines seem a lot more expensive and complicated.

>What on earth has convinced you it would be "sufficient" for anything?
I (like most people) don't have the space or money for proper lathes and mills. This setup could allow you to machine small parts. All you need is patience. So it's better than nothing imo.
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>>1954873
I'm not talking about physically building the device, since I in no way believe there will be anyone building a bolt on device that would hold any tolerance or work to any acceptable degree regardless. I'm talking about machine setups to actually make parts, especially if you are trying to replicate and replace a mill. EDM isn't suited for that, ECM even less so.

>this setup could allow you to machine small parts
Humor me, what sort of parts do you think you'll be making with these.
Keep in mind people have 3d printed cnc routers that can cut aluminum and thin gauge steel
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>>1954885
Apparently you can cut quite complex shapes with it. But I will admit I have no experience with this technology, so I guess I will have to wait and see if it actually goes anywhere.
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I was the guy last thread talking about a crank handle cordless adapter for a manual mill table. First attempt ever at cutting a gear. Not hard, but very very tedious manually. Still needs to be bored out after this op
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got me another customer from practicalmachinist, pretty cool
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>>1954980
Forgot pic
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>>1955065
>Impact not torquey enough to raise table
Kms
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>>1955168
First time using a dividing head also. It's really not that hard once you get it set up. Am I a machinist yet?
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>>1955168
try a corded drill
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>>1955065
>>1955168
>>1955203
looks pretty cool

find some customers on practicalmachinist and you will be
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfUMCejakpw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbe0T4Xpcl8

sweet, VTC-16 still available and getting some more info on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVjvxgJe4tI
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>>1955203
is it simple or direct indexing?
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>>1951286
i need friends like you
i was just considering the best ways to get into 80s and it made me consider machining as a weekend hobby more generally. i even thought momentarily about one day putting a bridgeport in a future garage
but the costs are prohibitive for a hobby
so router and drill press? just drill press? mini mill? what's my best option if i also want to learn a bit of general machining? i know squat right now

also looking for options which might fit in an apartment, as i won't have said garage for another few years
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>>1955625
Used Tormach?
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This Haas 4th axis for $4,900 is pretty cool.

https://www.resellcnc.com/products/boring-mills-vtls-misc-cnc-equipment/01tf1000004S6QnAAK/haas_hrt320fb
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Theoretical dream.

Imagine you could buy logs of spruce wood per solid cubic meter price of 15$ in convenient lengths locally wherever you setup your shack.

You start out with only the most common tools and want to
>make profit
>build something
>use the opportunity temporarily

What machines would you buy? Would you hire personel?

My dream is to setup some form of compound and start an underground organisation helping people whos right of self determination have been taken away without their consent or without them commiting a crime and offering them a place to stay until they recover + a compound for people to work together until their vision of what they want to do becomes clear and profitable
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god i love 4mm dia endmills, with the 1mm and 2mm trash they always loved to snap the moment they even tickled the stock, but with the 4mm they are indestructible, i frequently crash with them into fixtures and shit and they never snap, plus since they also have 4mm dia shanks i can mill down down straight walls that are longer than the flute length
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>>1955625
Hackerspace?

If they dont have it, loan them one, do your shady shit at night when noone is there and they trust you with keys.
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This was added recently.

Is Fusion 360 going full jew? Fucking hell man... i really like fusion.. but no way in hell i'm taking out a second mortgage to pay for the pro loiscence.

Don't force to switch to the virgin soldworkws _;
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>>1955717
>he didnt leave fusion the second they announced the changes
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>>1955731
Abandon it for what? There is no alternative that even comes CLOSE to being as good as fusion. So what am i supposed to switch to? Solidworks? Autocad?? They are all fucking trash compared to fusion.
I hope someone finds a way to create a pirate version of the fusion pro, but i doubt it because fusion is heavily tied into cloud functionality
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what requires less force
reducing feedrate and increasing DOC
or
increased feedrate and reducing DOC?

My shitty router steppers are losing steps and i would like to solve it without slowing down the whole thing
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>>1955717
>$350/yr is a mortgage

ok
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>>1955754
reducing width of cut and increasing depth of cut probably
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What should I make my gf for her birthday? I picked her some wildflowers (weeds) once and she almost cried
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>>1955899
make her a nice set of earrings, or a ring. something she will be proud of and something she can show off (women LOVE to show off and rub things in their friends faces)

make it out of titanium or something
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>>1953958
If this machine is like the one i work with it looks like your R plane is set to -.5 while your Z is at -.375. It looks like your drlling maybe 1/8" deep. Should change your Z to -.125
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>>1955717
When is freecad not going to suck anymore.
I don't make anything I would need solid modeling for anyway. I can literally do everything I have planned in blender.
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tell me about machining chrome plated shit. is it going to fuck my tooling? will the plating chip along the edges?
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>>1955733
>I hope someone finds a way to create a pirate version of the fusion pro

You do understand that Fusion is a babby tier cut down version of Inventor right? And that you can pirate inventor and use it offline?
Also Solidworks is better than fusion in every single way.
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>>1955972
Oh so it is fucked up? It's supposed to be drilling 3/8 deep
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>>1956285
How big is your drill. You probably don't even need to run G83. Unless the hole is 3x deep as the width of your drill you can almost certainly just feed down.
Q should be the depth it adds per peck. I dunno what 2200 means in this case.
I dunno why your R plane is negative.
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>>1956319
I think it's fucked because his r plane is below his drill depth
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>>1956341
That's kinda what I'm getting at.
It looks fucked in general. Like I said, I dunno what Q2200 would be. thousandths would still be 2 inches.
I also don't know what axis C is referring to. Or what machine this is on... Anyways.
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>>1956280
Which one has more similar workflow to fusion 360? After all the time i invested into fusion, i don't want to just throw it away by using a software that is completely different plus is really love the concept of sketches and then extruding from them.
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>>1956443
You should probably just buy Fusion 360 if you are looking for rare and proprietary functions in the program like extruding from sketches.
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>>1956456
>buy
I am not opposed to buying software if
- you pay once to get lifetime access
- you can install and use it without internet

With fusion you are forced to pay monthly or yearly and you can't use it fully offline, so in the case of say a global pandemic which will put a strain on the infrastructure causing it to collapse, taking internet with it you are shit out of luck. How are you going to design spiked bumpers for your hummer to plow through the infected if fusion doesn't work offline? you won't, you will be dead meat.

I used the free fusion license and autodesk kept promising they care about hobbyists and won't fuck them over... and then they fucked their asses with a metal rod and taking away vital functionality and locking it away behind a paywall.
If i could pirate fusion pro i would, but this is not possible so i basically have to switch to either solidworks or inventor
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>>1956383
>>1956341
it's a bunch of 5/32" holes drilled over an inch deep into the face of a part on my lathe.

the code I posted is for the carbide spot drill I run before using a parabolic flute drill to go deeper
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>>1956459
mastercam has CAD right?
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>>1956443
>Which one has more similar workflow to fusion 360?
Inventor, if you can use Fusion, you can do Inventor.
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>that hum when the tool hits the steel

fuckin' nice
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>>1955536
Simple on a 40:1 dividing head
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Yep pretty sure my Y axis machine zero is off on live tool lathe w/ Y axis. I bet there is a parameter for that, but can I just use the G53 work shift stuff?

I guess I will just have to try it.
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>>1956459
You could either buy Alibre workshop, which is okay for the price ($399). Or stop giving your money to the Jew and pirate your software of choice. ZW3D 2019 is pretty good, it's a very good CAD/CAM solution which is piss easy to pirate.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9zd2ntoIwc

Gcode variables
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>>1956734
>ZW3D 2019
if you gonna pirate something, pirate solidworks
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I’m 26 with no knowledge of the Machining trade but I’d like to learn to gunsmith. Is it too late?
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>>1956868
everyone wants to gunsmith, it's crap pay and hard to find work unless you're in a big city

guns related manufacturing on the other hand, like making reloading press parts and stuff, maybe your own line of barrels?
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>>1956543
Well your R plane should still be higher than your drilling depth I would think. Though yeah, if you're only going 3/8th in with that tool, just feed it straight in with the spot and skip pecking till you drill deeper with the flute drill.
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>>1956459
Extruding from sketches is in solidworks, autocad, inventor etc. Its not rare or special, its standard.
Your clamoring about "workflow" because of what daily drivers say about it, but you clearly have no clue what they are actually talking about.

You need to do some actual research anon.
If you had done that in the first place, you would have known the AutoDesk has been locking down the free license for years now, piece by piece. Nobody but you is surprised, everyone who wasnt stupid would have told you from the beginning not to bother with it.
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>try removing a screw from some part
>it's stuck like hell
>hit it with kroil and start cranking on it
>the fucking screw sheared off 3 threads from the bottom
>the hole isn't even threaded and the screw was brazed on the other side
what the fuck any idea how I fix this one? only thing I can think of is drilling out the rest of the hole and welding what's left of the screw from the back again.

>>1956868
the oldest person in the program I went to was 62
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>>1956868
No, I knew nothing about machining at 24 and now I can somewhat follow these threads and I’m 25.
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Getting there with the professor parabellum shotgun build.
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Where is a good place to purchase metalworking tools? Bits, taps, reamers, etc. Prefer american made tools.
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>>1957158
I started ~3 years ago at 29 as a button pusher and was setting up jobs within like 6 months.
It's easy to get started, but there will always be some shit you didn't know.
I saw 65 year old men sharing tips at the place I started. A lot of "huh, i didn't think of that" stuff.
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Chips in my hair
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yep G53 work shift stuff fixed it, some backlash apparent though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuc0LAlZmBA
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What's worse for a shitty diy cheapskate CNC:
Timing belts or threaded rods (standard metric thread ones, not trapezoid)?

I'm leaning towards rods because of the gear reduction but I heard they don't last long. Is that true?
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>>1957188
carbidedepot.com
travers
maritool.com
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making 100 of these little wire rope guides, why am I getting such a shitty surface finish on the boring?
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>>1957598

What kind of CNC machine? Kind of matters...

A large-diameter threaded rod (like an M12+) will be more rigid, but slow and inefficient. The belt will allow the machine to move faster and have less backlash, but it will have more stretch than the rod.

Personally, I would (and did) save for Chinese ballscrews. But, if that really wasn't an option, I'd use a good, wide belt. Despite the fact that they do stretch more than a screw does, it's not by nearly as much as you might think. If you're cheaping out that hard, the odds are very good that the frame itself is going to contribute far more to a lack of overall rigidity than the belt does. Dealing with the backlash/speed issues of a threaded rod isn't worth it, at that point.
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>>1957643
turns out DOM A513 tubing is actually kind of hard unless it is annealed

https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/cnc-machining/turning-dom-154011/
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>>1957659
>What kind of CNC machine? Kind of matters...
Simple router - more to experiment and tinker with than producing something actually useful. I'll be happy if it cuts wood well but I want to push it as much as I can get away with.

I plan on using fairly weak Nema17 steppers I got dirt cheap, so torque is a priority over speed.
Backlash seems fairly easy to reduce: preload with two nuts against a spring.
So what I'm most worried about is the wear on the thread.
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>>1957643
I think I should have made them from solid bar stock instead of fucking with this stupid tubing.

and is anyone going to care if my backside chamfer tool won't reach the veery start of the radius? it's less than like half a thou deep there.
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>>1957848
fucking pic didn't post
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>>1957848
>>1957850
oh and the tolerances are all +/- 0.010"
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>>1957850
Just finish it with a rout-a-burr since finish doesn't seem to be an issue.
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>have to face end of part with lh threads
>make stub mandrel and run spindle backwards with upside down lh tool
>still looks wobbly even though part was squarely on my mandrel
I should have made the mandrel longer so I could put the other end in the tailstock but I was being stingy with my material. I'm not sure if there was runout because I was using the 3 jaw or if it was actually crooked because I fucked the threads a little not realizing that you have to keep the half nut on making metric threads.
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>>1957876
lol you're right im gonna have to ask if that finish is acceptable, it's really not so bad
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>>1957643
So I have figured out I can part it off most of the way then finish the back chamfer to part it off, which will leave it hanging on my ID grooving tool and not require a part catcher. might get a video of this sometime.
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>>1958058
You'll still be left with a small point instead of the radius though.
Also that sounds like it's going to fuck up your boring bar insert, but aight.
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>>1958090
inserts and bar came with the machine, not very impressed.
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I still don't know how to part off without leaving a burr on every piece
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>>1958103
you should try a handed insert, they make R and L handed parting inserts which cut slightly deeper at one side, like say you want the burr to be left on the stock piece instead of the part, you use that specific handed parting insert
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>>1958112
I tried stuff like putting the tool at a slight angle or grinding an andle into a hss parting blade but it still leaves that sliver that tears off.
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>>1957852
No, if they bitch about that then they're going to bitch about anything.
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>>1958100
>not very impressed
Dunno what you mean by this.
I did just realize that you could cut that radius with a grooving tool though instead. Then part off. You'll have a burr on the flat back off the part, but you can just rub it on some sand paper to make it flat. Which you can do while the machine makes the next part.
>>1958103
Not sure how you could. The piece is always going to part off with a little extra material on it.
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>>1957643
11/100

got the program pretty much ironed out I think

>>1958337
>>not very impressed
>Dunno what you mean by this.

The fucking insert keeps coming loose, it's just a screw-down type not a clamp over the top type. This shitty DOM A513 tubing is actually super hard from the stresses imparted by drawing. It's not hardenable, but it's work-hardenable apparently.
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>>1955733
Fusion360 is shit. You have to be a masochist to put yourself through its garbage workflow on the regular.
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Is there a pastebin or something for newfags like myself? I'm mostly interested in working small aluminum and wax blocks, is one of those gay little benchtop models all I need?
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>>1957643

a kennametal top notch grooving holder and various inserts were also included with the machine, I've been using it to groove and profile the relieved section in the middle. When profiling (moving left/right in the groove) it hits like 35% spindle load at the corner, on a 30hp spindle.

I think because the inserts don't have a chipbreaker or relief angle it's just like ripping the shitty steel off there. Doesn't break a chip just long strings.
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>>1958448
>cloudshit
Why would anyone trust that shit with their time and work? One server crash in a datacenter somewhere and poof goes everything.
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got email from guy with machine, they say they can't even load a program over RS232 onto it because they don't have the option from Mazak for it

so it's like a 20+ year old machine with probably very little wear on it as it's been hand-programmed with mazatrol the whole time.
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>>1958682
Nah, ain't worth the time. Buy something easier to put program's on.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzyQFnwh3U4
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>>1958474
abom79 on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqtAdjXa_HU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJfWY1cHGN8&feature=emb_title

haas makes a millturn now
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Sweet, got the OK on the surface finish.
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>>1958553
you do realize they have multiple backups and in addition to that you can store all your files also locally
not to mention that fusion is becoming industry standard
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>>1958553
It's generally stored with some redundancy so it would have to be a pretty huge failure to bite you. That being said; fuck the cloud, fuck SaaS, and fuck these greedy-ass software companies.
t. cloud software dev
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>>1959308
SaaS allows them to actually keep code proprietary though, and is likely the reason Fusion is so comparatively cheap.

For instance the code they use to convert files from another format into fusion files, requires uploading to their server and downloading the result.

What are the chances they are using a hacked piece of code from the competitor's software to do the conversion?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1erKvjOS-h8

brian talks work boots
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new abom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWD1GOO00uM
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>>1959306
It's really not, autocad is still king and solidworks is 2nd

>>1959308
Do I need any certs or any type of classes to succeed in software?
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>>1959352
>autocad
We're machinists talking about CAM, the CAD stuff is bonus material.
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>>1959352
>It's really not, autocad is still king and solidworks is 2nd
this is completely retarded
fusion, solidworks, autocad and catia are all made by the SAME FUCKING COMPANY and they all do the exactly same fucking thing, what the FUCK are they doing
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>>1959357
Ah, thought we were talking about CAD in general.
I got fed up with fusion a while back when I couldn't figure out how to mill out the fcg pocket on an ar15 in one op. Fusion kept wanting to make it two ops regardless of what the constraints and offsets were set to. So I switched to hsmworks and it worked fine.
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>>1959312
I think that's a possibility, but I'm sure they gain more value just from forcing consumers to pay over and over again than they do from obfuscating some stolen file conversion routines.

>>1959352
Many programmers consider themselves self-taught, but classes certainly help. I learned a whole hell of a lot from this series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB63C06FAF154F047
The cloud certs from amazon help get a decent position, they're highly valued at some places. I have an unrelated liberal arts degree, but got into the field by programming for myself for a few years until a contracting company was willing to vouch for me and find me a position. There are contracting companies that will go so far as to falsify work experience for you, if you're really desperate.
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>>1959360
Fusion is autodesk, dssault is SW and Catia. It's a tier thing. Like how powermill is autodesk's premium CAM
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>>1959368
wish I had powermill :/ and a good 5-axis
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>>1959367
What languages do you see becoming highly sought after? I know C#, SQL, Python, and C++ in that order.
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>>1959370
Interesting question, I'm the guy making wire rope guides in his garage right now, not the software guy.

I know C++, C, and C# in that order.
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>>1959370
If you know those then you are well on track. My employer only wants things in Javascript, Typescript, and Python, and all their old services are written in Java. Java will be sought after for a while now because so many companies bought into it big in the early 2ks. I could not pretend I'd be able to guess what other languages will be relevant, but I can tell you that functional programming is becoming more and more relevant so learning a functional language like Haskell or ML can be valuable as you apply what you learn back to the languages you already know.
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>>1959369
>tfw wish i was rich so i could buy a tormach mills and top tier CAD and CAM software
>tfw if i was rich i wouldn't waste my time with machining and instead go fuck hot college girls on tropical islands
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>>1959387
businesses have better ROI than real estate in most places, and real estate has a better ROI than the stock market, plus it lets you invest in an asset worth 10x the money you put into it via a mortgage.

So either start a business or buy some rental properties?
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>>1950977
First time on this board does AvE browse here?
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>>1959370
>>1959377
>>1959378

Javascript is helpful for editing post processors. Both Autodesk Inventor and Fusion 360 use the same post processors and they are in Javascript with a .cps file extension. I don't know how many times over the years I've had to go in and edit the posts processors to get them to do want I wanted on my machines.

Go here to the post processors:
https://cam.autodesk.com/hsmposts

Find a popular control, say Haas or Fanuc and download it. Open it in Visual Studio and start learning.
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>>1959417
ugh javascript I hate it

and jumping into a C++ project job isn't so easy, I should probably look for C# work if I ever want to be a wagie.
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>>1959423
Javascript is great if you don't treat it like C and aren't targeting the browser, but you're right that C# is probably your best prospect for employment
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>>1959438
I've tried to learn some ASP.NET stuff a while back, there seems to be a learning curve to make stuff actually work. I can of course program the .NET (actual work part) functionality but making the web page come together is beyond me still.
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>>1957643
40/100

break time
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>>1959441
I think most "server pages" frameworks are old and being phased out. Nowadays I imagine C# would be used to serve a rest api for whatever server logic you need, and your front-end would be a single page app in javascript that makes calls to it. That's the way all new web apps are structured at my job. Maybe ASP is useful if you want to maintain older web systems though. I've never worked professionally with any microsoft tech beyond typescript so take my thoughts here with a grain of salt. Sage because my post is way off topic.
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why is a boring bar $70 and an endmill $35
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>>1959480
More demand for endmills so the price will be slightly lower.
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Anyone ever used a Yasnac i80 control?
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>>1959396
How the fuck would we know. You should ask him.
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>>1958419
>The fucking insert keeps coming loose
sounds like the threads are fucked up or something. try putting a lockwasher on it lol
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>>1959634
im a little under halfway done, the screw finally gave out and I replaced it, it still comes loose every 3-4 parts. somewhat annoying
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>>1959396
He's a fucking hack. This board routinely shits on him so I dont see why he would hang out here.
He's also not a machinist, why would you ask in this thread?
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>>1959452
Why isn't that edge broken? Looks sharp bro. Prog a 45 maybe?
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>>1959689
>He's a fucking hack.
He's wrong about a lot of shit, but he's admitted before he's pretty much just learning on camera.
He's half a machinist, anyway.
He once tried peck drilling with a friction drill, and it - of course - fucking exploded. That was fun to watch.
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>>1959695
I did, but I didn't notice the turning insert had the tip broken off.

I just kept thinking it was deflection or some shit. Still don't know how the whole tip of my turning insert broke off on that shitty tubing.

A513 T5 really is some gnarly shit to work with, won't break a chip for shit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4j2PSmLzdE

looks like a perfect part for my live tool lathe.
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apparently mark serbu shows off some firearms machining on his channel

https://www.youtube.com/user/markserbu/videos

apparently he makes .50bmg rifles

https://serbu.com/
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I know this is not exactly Machining, but someone here might be able to help.
I need to find some sort of software that could align and compare two sketches (or two dxf-s,...) and also measure deviation.
I have measurements of a gear (dots) and cad drawing of the gear (solid lines).
And I want to find out the deviation between those two. But before that, they need to be aligned together, in a best fit scenario- where deviations are the smallest. What software should I use?
For example this is what I want, but I need it in 2D, not 3D (0:10 to 0:45):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gPt-ZV2c-k
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>>1959723
>but he's admitted before he's pretty much just learning on camera
He didn't need to tell anyone that.
Why you would bother watching someone beg for patreon money while "learning on camera" is beyond me.
His fake shop talk got old 5 years ago. Waste of time when there are so many other worthwhile channels to watch.
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If you were to finance a new 5-axis mill, what brand would you go for?
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>>1960054
mazak if price wasn't a problem, haas is I needed a budget machine that could pay itself off in a few years.
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>>1959993
upwork and $25 ?
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>>1959993
I think inkscape can open dxf files, and has a measurement tool. You'd have to draw the ruler lines manually, but should work. I think.
Blender might even be able to.
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>>1960093
Maybe as a last resort.
>>1960127
I can open dxf in Fusion 360 and Solidworks. But I need some software that would align those two sketches as perfectly as possible, so that measurement of deviation is as accurate as possible.
Alternatively I am looking for software that would automatically connect 5000 dots (it is the whole gear, not just the tooth, as on the pic) to their closest neighbouring dots, so I can make extrude of that sketch and send it to someone with geomagic control x. I would prefer not to connect all those point manually.
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68/100
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>tfw need 42hp spindle for a 6 tooth pulley groove
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>>1960137
>perfectly as possible, so that measurement of deviation is as accurate as possible.
I'd say they are aligned when the deviation is minimal. Can't you write a script for one of those programs that does this?
2 objects, align them closely by hand, check difference to each closest point between the 2 objects, compute the difference, nudge slightly, compute again, check if total difference is reduced, etc.
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>>1960194
>I'd say they are aligned when the deviation is minimal.
Yes.
>Can't you write a script for one of those programs that does this?
I do not know how to or even if that is possible for solidworks or Fusion 360. I agree with your concept, but I have no programming skills to achieve that.
I was hoping some machinist here is using something like that to check on finished parts. Maybe something for coordinate measuring machines?
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>>1960190
Why so much?
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>>1960620
for all i know that insert is like 3 inches wide form tool





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