“Here is a proper way. Now discard it. Bare your teeth and strike from the heartblood.”-The Way of Aesma>this is where this comic was inevitably going to go, two bald very fucked up women beating the shit out of each other in the rain
>>136076168This bitch is spilling her wine.
>>136076168>title on name fieldwhy
>>136076172>Allison loses her remaining limbs
>>136076256>The main character of the comic is now an angry floating head
>>136076168When is the best character going to appear?
>>136076172I like to imagine Incubus repeatedly getting decapitated and growing his head back like the dude from Men in Black
>>136076168>>136076172That fucking last panalMaya is about to cut a bitch
>>136076168>maya just fucking chilling out skidding around on her bald ass head>Allison’s phantom limbs in the rainCan we say Allison’s arc is cool again?
>>136076172>Incubus survives decapitation and proceeds to beat Maya up Head of John bros, we're vindicated.
have a nedroid edit
>>136076466You know it manHonestly i never stopped liking Allison as a characternot even during the Jadis arc
>>136076172I like the last two panels because it looks like merely saying the word is about to have consequences.
And people were wondering how Allison could move around without limbs as if she wouldn't just manifest them with sheer will. >>136076509kek
>>136076407He just grabber his decapitated, indestructible head and used it as a sword.
Do you think Meti also did the headsliding bit when she started training Maya and Inky? Is that the real reason behind the head shaving? To teach the Sacred Art of Head Scooting?
>>136076168>The real reason why Meti and her students shaved their heads is so that they could slide like that
>>136076168There's so many bald super strong fighters in the comic who may be able to slide their heads like that. Imagine Solomon or Jagganoth just skidding around in the middle of the demiurge fight. Or the giant baby.
>>136076567It’s extra funny how mad some people got about her ripping off her limbs now
>>136076714>Maya changes the fighting meta and now all of the demiurges are headskidding around like idiots.
>>136076168>those phantom atum limbs>>136076172>I'm starting to doubt you can even use a sword.Fucking yes... That's the good stuff
>>136076168The fact that Maya managed to decapitate Incubus but he still kept fighting makes me think Jagganoth reduced him to spaguetti and when we saw him he was already mid regeneration.
>punished allison has a literal set of phantom limbsBRAVO ABBADON
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>>136076168>>136076172I love the contrast between Allison's blue eyes and Maya's red eyes.
>Then, he thrashed me within an inch of my life. >I was quite drunkThere has to be some residual emotions still. Incubus should have killed her back there.
>>136076306>MODOK achieves Royalty
>>136077195maybe she only survived because she was drunk?
>>136076827>makes me think Jagganoth reduced him to spaguetti and when we saw him he was already mid regenerationI thought that was obvious from the way we saw him literally growing his skin and face back.
>>136077081This is funny because he also lost a arm and leg.
>>136076168>>136076172Allison is cool. I hope she stays cool this time because there are times when she is not cool.
>>136077231Yeah, it's like when people go limp in drunk driving accidents. Except then they actually manage to kill the other person.
>>136076168>bald head slideYep I think we're back in business.
>>136076168Jackie Chan Drunken Master arc here we go!
>>136076168Put the ksbd in the title next time, it's not catalog searchable otherwise.>>136076509How does Nedroid pair so well with ksbd
>>136076790>“My technique is no technique,” said the young man. “My art is no art. It was an idiot’s blow.”
so when abbadon gets REALLY good at drawing hair... he makes every character bald.
>>136076168>>136076172>the fucking head slide>Allison's phantom limbs>Maya bout to Cut a motherfucker in that last panelAhhhh yes. This is that good shit.
>>136076172>>136076168>Using the power of god like an animal would use an especially sharp rockAlison's about to find out how best to use an especially sharp rock against the power of god
>>136076168>he put ksbd in the name fieldYouYOUDOUBLE DOOFUS
>>136076509These are always a treat. Good job.
>>136076168fuck you OP, learn to make proper KSBD threads next time
>>136077081Only counts if she lost them while performing a magic act for the Queen of England. And now they're stuck up on the moon along with a bunch of pigeons and rabbits and playing cards and some milk.
>>136076770>"How is she going to stand, or fight?">"By being royal.">"YOU CAN'T JUST SAY THAT FOR EVERYTHING">>136076615That man can't function without an actual sword. He's an awful swordsman.
>>136076172>>136079504So do you think Incubus trashed her with his body or with his head? Obviously he was using a sword.
>>136076172So does the little hole where the key goes become red after someone loses their key? Cio's was red too.
>>136079577>its not a red gem>its a glowing scab that forms over the hole>its always itchy and you can never pick it off
>>136079640Shut up shut up shut up
>>136079577It's actually just a regular leystone. A bunch of people have them. They're boosters, but nothing like an actual Key.
>>136076466>Phantom limbsThat's not what's happening. It's just a marysue doing shit like it's nothing
>>136079799Your dad does me like I'm nothing.
>>136078478We're following Breaking Bad rules now, Abby's gotta make sure his girls are solid.
>>136076770>this made up thing really puts the egg on the face of those idiots who want characters to behave like actual peoplehe wanted to do cool spirit limbsI can appreciate thatbut he could've done that AND come up with a better reason for allison to tear off her perfectly serviceable prostheticsit's not that complicated
>>136080284It's rather simple really, relying on prsthetics to walk and fight is like relying on a sword and claiming to be swordsmanit's just not royal
>>136080284It's almost like the act was more about the symbolism of rejecting Jadis' comforting nihilism than practicality in a story about magical kung-fu fighters and the only real complaint about it is pure autism.
>>136079577It's a leystone>>136079504If he knows head of John he must at least be able to headbutt people.
>>136076168Oh, cool, she's partially manifesting. Guess all she needed was a push.
>>136076213Probably a never-ending cask.
>>136076172Godammit, she gets angry, then cocky, then starts popping off and giving her superiors bad ideas...she doesn't learn, does she?
>>136079674>It HURTS when you attempt to scratch it, then goes back to itchingDoes this...perturb you?
>>136079799What the fuck are you talking about?
>>136079577It's a Leystone, which make the Art easier but don't let you do any of the bullshit a Key of Kings would do.
>>136077195>Yis and Un warred for seven years then made love for seven hours>Yis is depicted as a dark-skinned woman>Un is depicted as a pale man
>>136076403never again, he was in rayuba with the rest of his crew for the tournament
>>136076168>>136076172>the enemy's gate is down
>>136078307Is there anything at all it doesn't pair well with?
>>136079564He was wielding his own head, pulling it by the hair like a morningstar.
Remember all the shitposting about why would Allison get rid of perfectly functioning prosthetics, now we see her standing on pure kungfu magic bullshit?Wonder where those people are.
>>136083658I'm right here, bitch. Now what?
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>>136083680Hows it feel to be explicitly called an idiot by the story?
>>136083704like this
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>>136083797
>>136076172"I'm starting to doubt you can even use a sword"-woman, about to be diced by a drunk with a sword
Nice
>>136084193Hey to be fair, Intra was a sword God and he had no fucking clue how to sword fight. He was just very very good at being bad at sword fighting.
>>136076168cool. I'm invested in the story again.
>>136076403BABY
>>136076172I so miss the beard edits.
not really feeling it, story is stuck in cycles, Allison is a retard, she does something cool, then she ends up back to being a retard
>>136085084The wheel ever turns. The cycle has not yet been broken.
>>136076172>Alison is about to learn that there is no such thing as a sword
>>136085309
its seems like there are many paths to great power but only one path to true royalty or am i not understanding.
>>136085631True Royalty is a means, not an end
>>136085084Being a retard at her core is why she has a chance to break the cycle. Every smart, confident person has died trying. Plus her idiocy makes it impossible at times to predict what she's going to do next. This interests me.
>>136085807“It is true you are very fierce,” conceded his partner, “But my son’s fighting beetle is also very fierce. Could his beetle fell a lion?”“That depends,” said Intra, “How skilled is the beetle in Pankrash Circle Fighting?”“Beetles cannot learn Pankrash Circle Fighting, Lord Intra,” said Intra’s attendant, and made a bitter motion.“Don’t tell the beetle that,” said Intra, who was very skilled at smiling. “If you don’t tell him he will learn it anyway and cut the lion in half with a single blow.”-The Song of Maybe[8]
>>136085807>Being a retard at her core>This interests me.I have to say it doesn't interest me at all. I appreciate all manner of stories ones where the protagonist rises to the occasion or falls into temption. They may be smart, weak, wise, caring, cruel, malicious, vengeful, or any number of things.But stupid is one of the things I don't think I can tolerate. I've been here reading the story with you people since Allison met Cio for the first time, I like to think I've given this comic the time and discussion to really understand if stupidity is interesting at all. And it's not. Ignorance can be cured and wisdom can be gained but if you're stupid you're stupid forever. And Allison is fucking stupid and I don't find that interesting and quite honestly I cannot fathom why you think it's interesting. Allison isn't Beavis and Butthead or Eric Andre, we're not meant to laugh AT her we're supposed to think she is a hero for being so stupid. I don't mind at times when Allison is weak or hysterical or impulsive. But that consistent pattern of those character flaws clearly makes her stupid and that crosses a line.
>>136085966She hasn't even done anything THAT stupid. Relax.
>>136086009You haven't changed my mind.
>>136086084I don't care.
>>136085966You haven't been paying attention. Stupidity is literally a superpower in this comic. Aesma and Intra show it, Alison shows it.
>>136086084
>>136079799"Mary Sue" has a definition, it's not any character you don't like.
>>136076256All she needs is hate.
>>136076168This is simultaneously hilarious and absolutely badass.>>136076172Got actual goosebumps at that last panel. Now you fucked up.
>>136085966Fair critique, but her stupidity is over exaggerated in these threads. She's more just not idealised.
So what's gonna happen when Himself comes out of that cage
>>136087721>fun_starts_now.jpg
>>136087721Forgotten as a story point, I think
>>136087721Cosmic metaphysical kung fu between Him and Metatron with a war between angels and devils both bound and unbound in the background
>>136087890I doubt Him is up to that, he's Lucifer and Metatron is some elder god shit.
>>136088015Isn't he kind of out-of-bounds of reality? I'm pretty certain he can just leave the cage whenever he wants
>>136087721I doubt he'll come out. At most he'll have some involvement with Cio's return but I kind of see him as the Bombadil of this story. It's cool if some mysteries remain unexplained.
>>136088027i thought only zoss was truly able to exist outside of reality.
>>136088015Him's existence is being threatened. What does Him and the devils have to lose if Metatron's slave Jag manages to destory the multiverse? >I doubt Him is up to thatHim seems like he is just below Metatron level; he just keeps to devil business.
>>136088027I'll buy it if I see it, but he talks like a person and chooses to live in a box, he isn't inscrutably looming around extruding bird eyes and rebooting the universe a million times, I don't think he's going to be a final player in that way.
>>136088073Wiki>"He is pure ego, doesn't operate by the rules of reality and thus he is sovereign from decay, death or time."I interpreted it as Him being exempt from certain things because some parts of Reality don't apply to him
>>136085631Royalty is the path, it's a verb not a noun. It's not something you become, it's something you do. A continuous cutting motion.
>>136076172"A dagger? You're going to use just a dagger against me"?!"Ai, I am not one who hunts rabbits with a canon".
>>136076172Allison is going to get cut in half.
>>136088899>A continuous cutting motion.I just so happen to have an illustration.
>>136088015Himself is on the same level as Metratron per WOG. Or at least, the closest thing that exists.
>>136085084This is the setting where tard strenght is unironically real and quite powerfulShes doing everything right
>>136087721What happens when you pull the plug out of a bathtub
>>136088059>It's cool if some mysteries remain unexplained.I get it, but at the same time I hate it.
>>136088027I think the cage is what allows Himself to exist the way he does. Like the cage is a window into the Void where the primordial Black Flame can exist without being partitioned with a mask and names.
>>136076168It feels weird to follow the comic for everyone besides the main protagonist.Phantom limbs are bullshit. Not the idea itself mind you, but rather the way it was introduced.Here we are presented with it like with something that takes no effort at all and was already established. Which means she already had them. Which means that her learning to harness the power to manifest those limbs happened offpanel, which deflates all the impact. And the worst thing are the devout sycophants praising bad writing and bland characters by way of calling anything that doesnt make sense "royal". There were a dozen ways to get to the amputee Allison and Abaddon chose the worst one.
>>136091068She didn't "learn to do it", she just did it
>>136087372>her stupidity is over exaggeratedI genuinely believe, these threads aside, that Allison has done a succession of dumb shit to live up to the accusation of being one of the dumbest motherfuckers ever, like textbook clinical narcissist. Just expressing a total lack of respect for the situation she's found herself in. Behaving as if she's in an actual anime and despite the imagery that seems to support the fact she's aware she's behaving that way, it doesn't change the fact it makes her any less stupid for not suppressing those impulses.Things like:- Challenging what might as well be the scariest looking fucker at the bar to a drinking competition (probably best moment in the story but still bafflingly stupid)- Trashing a mafia boss's house because Mottom was "whining" or rather legitimately expressing a personal trauma. Yes, the evil character was holding out their hand in false friendship with the intent to enslave Allison but Allison didn't know that until after she trashed her house.- Letting David Bowie i.e. Satan into her head in exchange for power- Not telling her friends that Satan is in her head- Forcing her devil friend by way of devil pact to raid another mafia boss's house- Picking fights with gangsters, the sort of people on Earth who would murder your innocent associates with gardening tools- Deciding to just walk into a fighting tournament hosted by another mafia boss with the intent of punching her way to get to him and punching him for what she wants, knowing that he is the best boxer who has ever lived because Satan told you- Satan not only tried to kill you, but you still haven't told anybody, including Satan's previous sparring buddy who is currently training you, that Satan was and may still be in your headIt wouldn't be a story if Allison didn't do some of these things. But she's done all of these things and I think objectively that makes her not only a total idiot, but she's being purposely written to be that.
>>136092347>using the phrase mafia boss to best describe a Demiurge
>>136091068?Probably not, chill.
>>136092347>- Letting David Bowie i.e. Satan into her head in exchange for powerThe first part wasn't her fault if I remember correctly. Incubus being able to enter people's heads is his thing and Allison didn'tt have the training to kick him out. On top of that his training and exchange for power did ultimately wind up saving her life in a desperate situation so while it's dumb to make a deal with the figurative devil in this case. It's not as egregious as you make these other examples to be.
>>136092623I think he means the goblin mafia boss
>>136091068Frankly, I don’t think stuff like the phantom limbs needs establishing at this point. Alison’s had the key for several years by this point and has been shown to do things far more impressive things with it than using it to stand up. The fact that she pulls a new ability out of her ass to suit the current situation just shows she knows how to use her powers.
>>136092347>like textbook clinical narcissist.Any normal person would have choked hard in Allison's position. After her autistic run in with motton she's basically led on by Incubus, White Chain and Cio into a succession of dumbfucky things that constantly put her in a position where she simply had no time to think things throughIt's only when he gets on an argument with all 3 of them in the same week that she actually does something for real - and heads straight to soloman davidoShe IS a dumbfuck, but not that much of a human disaster. She was happy sitting on her laurels with White Chain and Cio, and she was happy shlicking it out with ms. dried fish
>>136092347Pree Aesma...
>>136085966In all fairness the theme in this common is complete retards who have their heart in the right place are ones actually destined for greatness
>>136083658She won't be relying on phantom limbs forever though. I wonder when she's getting the Zoss prosthetics we see in the cover of book 5. >>136081857That's just how she is and it's what will allow her to become royalty and break the wheel. I bet she's going to call Metatron a bitch when she meets him.
>>136087890I don't think Metatron is in any capacity to do kung fu. He has jagganoth do his fighting for him.
Allison remains boring as always
>>136093317No, the mob boss wasn't holding a fighting tournament where you get something you want if you punch him.
>>136091068>It feels weird to follow the comic for everyone besides the main protagonist.>Phantom limbs are bullshit. Not the idea itself mind you, but rather the way it was introduced.Bruh. She just vaporized a dozen dudes and melted a cliff just a few panels ago. Making some fake limbs isn't shit.
>>136095103oh then he's just genuinely as stupid as he thinks allison is in the comic
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>>136091068>Which means that her learning to harness the power to manifest those limbs happened offpanel, which deflates all the impact.I wouldn't be surprised if this ability was detailed in the RPG and like most things Abaddon knew it exists but forgot that he had to show it. I'm not even sure if Head of John was described in the comment text of the comic but I'm certain it's in the RPG. I only mention it because Incubus absolutely went through the Head of John ritual and Maya decapitating him is a reference to that.Who knows maybe some dicksuck will say it's a nod to the people who read the RPG book but at the risk of being accused of asspulling it's better, as you said, to show something happening than depending on assumptions and implications.
>>136096157>I wouldn't be surprised if this ability was detailed in the RPGI mean energy limbs were a thing during Maya's last flashback they just weren't invisible. This is just a step up
>>136096157>I'm not even sure if Head of John was described in the comment text of the comicIt was.https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/king-of-swords-2-13/
>>136088027>>136088101>>136090618His cage, and by extension his mannerisms and the office is what keeps Himself being Himself. Without a mask and a name a demon should be an unthinking mass of chaos, but somehow Himself is the one exception. Himself sticks to his role cause otherwise he risks stopping being self-aware. If he goes all out there's a very high chance that he does so at the risk of himself.
>>136096157Do we explicitly need to know it was Head of John that saved his ass right now? Maya's comment on his blood alchemy is good enough.
>blood alchemyI wonder if Incubus took some of Jantris' knowledge back with him after Maya killed Jantris. This can't be coincidence that both Jantris and Incubus are experts in blood alchemy.
>>136097601That seems like the implication. He also took Jantris' key and the word Flame, wonder if the word itself is somehow tied to these particular techniques.
>>136097682A theory long ago from anon: The divided keys, each imbued with a name of god, over time attune their bearers' personalities tino the name they represent. That was before Jadis got wrecked so hard that Mind turned into Shape, but back then I thought that this theory had a lot of merit, especially how Mottom developed into Glory and Mammon into Tower.
>>136097601Almost certainly, blood alchemy is seemingly the closest thing to a true 'big bad evil guy power' given how its been described and Jantris looked and (basically) acted like fucking Mumm Ra, complete with a standard bad guy army and a big ol' castle and a fear of death. Incubus can even force himself to become more muscular on command and can seemingly survive basically anything that doesn't destroy his head lol
>>136085966shit now I'm thinking about Eric Andre as a Demiurge. Reach Heaven Through Ranch, Brotendo.
>>136091068>Here we are presented with it like with something that takes no effort at all and was already established. Which means she already had them. Which means that her learning to harness the power to manifest those limbs happened offpanel, which deflates all the impact.Way to completely miss the point. How many times has the comic shown that thinking too hard about doing something is antithetical to actually doing it? If you pointed out the phantoms limbs to Allison there's a 50% chance she'd realize she was doing it and it'd stop. Like, there's an episode of Ed, Edd n Eddy where Ed flaps his arms and flies like a bird, but when Edd asks him how he just did that he tries again and just falls off the roof he'd landed on. Don't think, just do.
>>136097372Yes. I'm new this sub, do you guys just accept something like a whole new power that appears when it's convenient? If this comic was on CinemaSins, that would be more than one "ding!", let me tell you that much.
>>136099285Ed is absolute royaltyThere's a scene where both him and Eddy accidentally walk off a Cliff without falling and when both notice they did that only Eddy was concerned and ran back to solid ground, Ed still didn't truly acknowledge it and tried to jump across further to the other side before getting grabbed back to the Cliff
>>136100504>If this comic was on CinemaSins, that would be more than one "ding!", let me tell you that much.Jeremy is a grade A dumbass.
>>136100716This, but unironically.
>>136100716Yes, exactly! More broadly, you could say that Toonforce in general is an application of Royalty. Anything impossible is possible if you don't stop to think about it.
>>136097824Notably, Jadis is Bearer of The Shape, not the word Shape. She no longer bears a word, there is only the wheel.
>>136076168>me, letting KSBD percalate so I can catch up with a ton of satisfying pages,>See this imageThe fuck? She's GUTS now? Did a hellraiser demon rape her boyfriend in front of her, too?
>>136100504>this subeither supreme bait or actual redditard faggotregardless fuck off
>>136100859We have such sights to show you.
>>136100859>falls down stairs >it keeps happening>the stairs are in the shape of a wheel>after 108 kalpas she is a broken weapon of sinew and scar tissue
>>136076567Kind of out of nowhere though, like I know it’s all willpower nonsense but this is Allison we’re talking about. We’ve followed her from day one so even though I should be used to this shit by now with her I know when the bullshit isn’t even trying and it’s kind of annoying.
>>136080927God okay I just can’t handle this anymore, that phrase is so stupid. A swordsman by their very nature require a sword to properly utilize their skills, why is it so wrong for someone who dedicated themselves to a weapon being dependent on that weapon to properly perform a bad thing?
>>136101379she's been doing all kinds of bullshit like this without thinking throughout the whole comic. Blocking the jagga-nuke on ryuba, rebinding Princess. Why is manifesting some phantom limbs where you draw the line?
>>136101514Imo it's a metaphor for how being obsessed with violence for violence's sake (or just power in general) is self destructive and ultimately ends up restricting you. See the demiurges who all craved power and then end up fucked over by the power itself. Jagganoth is stuck in an endless cycle of fighting, Salami Dave and Mottom can't handle the pressure of ruling, etcetera. "Swords are poison". "Reach heaven through violence", but as we've seen many times throughout the comic, "heaven" sucks balls. Except it's also somewhat literal because magic is actually real and people's desires physically manifest as changes to reality.
>>136094659Is frankly bizarre how she can do shit like evaporate people, go toe to toe with devils, and rip her limbs of in a absolutely metal way but be blander than chemically clean water all the while.
>>136101054Subforum.
>>136101798theyre boards you double niggerlurk for 10 years before posting
>>136100859Funny you should mention Guts, what she experiences does have heavy parallels with the Eclipse.
>>136096340Attentive readers could even figure it out beforehand because of the mention of the three head studs. I know at least one person on /co/ got it during the Jagganoth fight.
>>136101604Oh it isn’t where I draw the line, my tolerance for bullshit has been surpassed by this comic welll over 200 pages ago. I only hope into these threads to see awesome art but sometimes shot like this, especially considering she ripped off her prosthetics even though she’s just going to wind up with prosthetics again, just irks me so much I got to just vent for a second. I really do want to enjoy this comic wholesale but it’s just way too… Stupid? Incomplete? I’m not even sure how to begin describing my issues with it.
>>136101777There's a difference between violence for violence's sake and violence for power. If the Demiurges were only in it for more violence they would be much happier people, like orks from 40k.
>>136101864Even complete with a twink who has long, white hair.
>>136102032You're not wrong. I think it's also related to the repeatedly pushrd idea that becoming supreme god king won't necessarily make you happy. Ironically this makes Incubus the only one who could theoretically be happy, by way of killing everything else in existence.
>>136102179Incubus is low-key very similar to Allison and pretty damn close to being Royalty.
>>136102179>Ironically this makes Incubus the only one who could theoretically be happy, by way of killing everything else in existence.Incubus doesn't want to kill everything in existence, that's Jag's gig. What Incubus wants is to win. To be the guy at the top of the heap, having proved that he's the baddest motherfucker in all existence. The two main problems with that are that he thinks the only thing that counts towards being top dog is the ability to murder any and everyone in your way, and that he doesn't realize that the hill he's desperately fighting to be king of is just a meaningless pile of mud and shit. Or rather he knows he's fighting to be King Shit of Dung Mountain, he just doesn't care.
>>136076172Half interested in picking this back up.Maya being perfect in her dabbing here.
>>136083658Ditched the comic, mainly, rule of cool.
>>136076172>the setupPunchline, plx.
>>136101514>A swordsman by their very nature require a sword to properly utilize their skills, why is it so wrong for someone who dedicated themselves to a weapon being dependent on that weapon to properly perform a bad thing?Because the point is to make yourself the sword. A sword is a tool for violence and cutting things, but the truth is that you don't actually need a sword to do either, so if you are relying on a physical sword to do your cutting for you why treat it as anything other than a crutch or training wheels? Forging yourself into a sword is the superior approach, since that way your sword is always with you, and it is always drawn.
Also, at this time. I am quite drunk.
>>136077518>went limp and dispersed the impactI HATE THE NIKO STYLE I HATE THE NIKO STYLE I HATE THE NIKO STYLE
>>136076168jjh
>>136076168bump
>>136085966Anon why are you so terribly insecure?
>>136101967>she ripped off her prosthetics even though she’s just going to wind up with prosthetics again, just irks me so much I got to just vent for a secondAnon I think you need to stop reading the comic. Not being a shit here or anything but I think if something like this is going to set you off maybe you should quit, stuff like this WILL happen again and all you're going to do is sperg over it. I seriously think you'd be happier with any other number of similar comics or manga.
>>136101514Because like everything else in this comic the sword philosophy is a metaphor for self improvement, not an actual fencing manual.
>>136100504>every demiurge has reality bending powers, immortality and an unknown amount of powers we know we haven't seen as well as hundreds if not thousands of years of experience at using them>why weren't we told this immortal guy wouldn't die if his head was cut off before we were told he didn't die when his head was cut offYou are either a supremely stupid bait or just supremely stupid. And not the kind that is glorified in this story either. Go read Winnie the Pooh or something else on your level.
>>136104495I wonder if it was intentional that Allison lost her sword in same arc she rejected Inky's influence.
>>136091068Phantom limbs are not something you need to manifest, they're already there IRL, if you have the power of a god, actually standing on your phantom leg makes perfect sense.
>>136092347>Behaving as if she's in an actual animeSo... she's genre-savvy?
Let's be honest, we got waifu cute blonde Allison back briefly, and she was taken away from us. That hurts, but in character it makes perfect sense to reject prosthetic implants put there by an enemy (Or rival), so now she's back to looking like Alien 3 Ellen Ripley and that makes our peepees sad (Unless you're into that) but hey the story continues. I figured it was a dreamscape personally so I didn't think it would last
>>136076168>WHEEL SMASHING LORDI guess he's a bad driver?
>>136109275Musclegirl allison will always be peak Allison for me. As for the rest of that-I find it hard to call Jadis an enemy or even a rival when it turns out her CURRENT motivation was to try and spare Allison from some pain, her ORIGINAL motivation was to try to become the loving god she never had growing up and at NO POINT did she actually want to take Allison's life. She's only an obstacle in the philosophical sense. As angry as she is at Allison's final decision I don't even get the sense she'd have tried to keep her there by force if she'd tried to walk out herself.If only because, y'know, Jadis foresaw the fact that Zaid was going to talk Allison into getting out anyway.And don't get me wrong, it's totally Royalty to walk without your leg and arm but it's also pretty fucking stupid. I think it'd help if we actually knew the mechanics of how using the Keys of Kings actually works, even at a "Hal Jordan makes a boxing glove with the power of will" level. Because while you can argue the Key doing whatever the plot needs it to do is supposed to be some sort of point about Allison gaining self-confidence or whatever, to readers who like to understand the logic of a story it comes across as a bit trite that the Key has no rhyme or reason to how strong it makes Allison.
>>136092347I am still disappointed that she let Incubus into her dreams (even though Incubus secretary is hot and I would definitely follow that kind of royalty), yet she didn't eat the worm. Basically the same offer.
>>136109416It's just a failure of Gog's salesmanship. Incubus made his offer while styling himself as Tuxedo Mask, Gog couldn't even be bothered to pick a tasty looking worm to feed her, let alone give it a better sales pitch than "you'll feel good!". Besides, she was clearly banking on the empire thing.
My problem with the phantom limbs is that they're just another crutch, really. She rejected the prosthetic limbs because she didn't want to hide from her wounds and pain, but now she's escaping the consequences of her wounds through the magical bullshit Zoss shoved in her forehead. What's the difference? The consistent thing to do would have been to acknowledge that she can't be a DBZ character anymore and cultivate her power in a different way. But if she's just gonna keep being a physical shit kicker she might as well just keep the fucking prosthetics. Zoss did.
>>136109416Allison pre-Dave is less naive than Allison post-Mottom. She isn't so much of an idiot to trust picrel's face. Besides, letting the worm control you and eat you alive is a lot more gruesome to consider than stupid sexy Incubus guiding you.
>>136109455>she might as well just keep the fucking prosthetics. Zoss did.>he doesn't knowI'll give you a hint: Don't wear it out.
>>136109275Alison without the prosthetics is better at sex than Allison with. Trust me.
>>136109455To be fair, Zoss is taking the stance that people-i.e. Solomon-should stop trying to rest on his laurels, and start trying to learn from his mistakes.But I mean personally yeah I think there's an argument to be made to just keep the prosthetics and "make them your own" while still being Royalty. Allison is just an idiot who doesn't do things by halves. I suspect in-universe there's something more "metaphysically myself" about the energy constructs since the key is also powering the Gem fusions, though like I said part of it is just that we really don't know how the key works or what it's full capabilities in the hands of someone who actually knows what they're doing are.>>136109462Come to think of it, wouldn't it make sense for White Chain to have taught Allison SOMETHING about the Demiurges during the timeskip? I mean White Chain seems pretty informed and you'd think it'd come up at least in casual conversation.>"Allison, do you know who the worst and vilest Demiurge is?">"Uh...the one you called the Devourer of Worlds I guess, that sounds pretty gnarly-">"No. It is INCUBUS Allison">"Oh, shit">"He is the king of the pit and a master of blood alchemy. His worlds are violent anarchy, and those who take his hand inevitably devolve into rabid beasts squirming in the filth at his feet. He is also said to know many martial arts, among them a particularly swift and terrible sword art, but above all you MUST remember never to take an offer from him. He will lead you into ruin and make you thank him for the privelege. Do you understand, Allison?">"Allison?">"Allison where are you going, you haven't finished dinner"
>>136109533Incubus isn't worse than Gog. At least you could maybe live a life after dealing with Incubus. Once you take the worm you'll never walk with rhythm again.
>>136109556I have a feeling White Chain would disagree. Technically if you're Gog'd you can't be held accountable for what happens next because you're not you, you're Gog, so it's Gog's fault. But Incubus will actively bring out the worst parts of you and encourage you to dig your grave until you've chosen, at least somewhat of your own volition, to be a monster at best and a rabit animal at worst.
>>136109578I think that if White Chain believed that she would just start killing and not stop under the pretense that it's better for everyone to just die instead of suffer living and maybe become evil.
>>136109578Explain why you think WC would choose Incubus to be the "worst" demiurge?
>>136109616He stinky.
>>136109626Shame that White Chain never learned Pree-Ophrile's Two Finger Pinched Nostril technique.
>>136109329I empathize with your autistic need to know how many hit points Allison has left and how many times per day she can cast Mordenkaiden's gimpy leg but it really isn't necessary for the story. The RPG is an accessory to the story, not the other way around
>>136104110>Or rather he knows he's fighting to be King Shit of Dung Mountain, he just doesn't care.The man sits in a giant pool of blood and refuse. He knows exactly what he's fighting to be king of
>>136101838>The best time to lurk was in 2004, the second best time is now.
>>136085631>its seems like there are many paths to great power but only one path to true royalty or am i not understanding.All paths lead to Royalty.However, most never so much as raise their feet to make the journey.
>>136110043I've said it before but I suspect it's just some tao shit.
>>136109771Exactly this, if you didn't need like a dozen pages of White Chain explaining to Allison the name and origin of every single race of weirdo monster men and bug people before every big spread, I don't see why you'd need every power explained to you too.
>>136110043There is no path to Royalty. Royalty is the path. You either walk it or you fall off.>>136110168Royalty is just continuous self-improvement and avoiding stasis. So long as you are committed to changing and growing as a person and are not stuck in your ways, you are Royalty. The entire idea of this comic can be summed up as "change good, rot bad."
>>136110242Ok but, like, there's got to be an end pint right? How much change and growth can a person go through until they've done everything? What do you do when there's no where left to advance to?Yeah sure, infinite possibilities and all that but at some point it can't even be considered changing.
>>136110300The endpoint is death. Accepting death - the ultimate change - is also a part of being Royalty. All the Royal characters (YISUN, Yis, Un, the Gods, Zoss, probably Meti), accept their demise, while the unroyal demiurges (and Metatron) cling to their lives and rot instead of getting out of the way and letting the universe renew itself.
>>136110242Arguably the tao shit I meant, although you need that taoist "immunity to misfortune" to go from solid life advice to rarely-attained superpower. Anyway I mostly just figured it from the orientalist themes of the comic.>>136110300You die dude. You're not gonna run out of stuff before then.
>>136110300There is no end point to Royalty; Royalty is a verb, a continuous cutting motion. The journey ends when you do.
Everyone needs to remember that Royalty is just Yisun's opinion and isn't necessarily correct.
>>136110602>Yisun=AbbyIt's good fun to argue and extract concepts from a work that aren't what the author necessarily intended.
>>136110602Yeah but that goes for literally everything.Your mom is just YISUN's opinion.
>>136110675Yisun has never been more wrong.
>>136110693Hey, give us your opinion, don't fart and run.
>>136110752>smiles in the fourth way>farts from his sixth geriatric form's asshole>exits Throne left
>>136110242>Royalty is just continuous self-improvement and avoiding stasis.Fool. Royalty is nothing. Once you realize that I am nothing, you can attain Royalty.
>>136110980>Once you realize that I am nothingNo time lost on that.
Do any anon want to be Royalty? Why or why not?
>>136076172I always hated "fat black chick designs" save for Amanda because is the wall. But I really her shots on this one, she does look like a badass monk of some sort, not a race token.
>>136111137>blackShe'd be Indian, if anything.>>136110602Yisun is position as the omnipotent, omniscient creator of all of reality and still encompasses all of it paradoxically after self-division. I think we can assume Yisun is likely right.
>>136079799>a marysueThe character that repeatedly fails and who everyone repeatedly insults is a Mary Sue?
>>136111619No, a Mary Sue is an OC inserted into Star Trek fanfiction.
>>136111535>I think we can assume Yisun is likely right.Isn't Yisun a huge troll?
>>136109556>you'll never walk with rhythm again.>Meanwhile Alison training with Incubus likehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDIYvFmgW8
>>136091068>Phantom limbs are bullshit. Not the idea itself mind you, but rather the way it was introduced.Why? We've seen other Demiurges project extra limbs. Allison projected entire extra versions of herself on top of extra limbs while infiltrating the Fortress of Yre. Besides, quibbling about this ignores the fact that the use of a Key is all Will. Manifesting phantom limbs to stand on is nothing compared to the other stuff Allison's managed to do - including using Zoss' signature ability that nobody else has been able to use. Do you think being able to teleport through dimensions on raw intuition is somehow less complicated?>>136096157We don't need to know the particulars of why he survived decapitation because he already survived an undodgeable world-annihilating attack unleashed by Jagganoth and he just regenerated from it like it wasn't a big deal. A decapitation is small potatoes compared to that. If you read the extra text below the comic and pay attention then sure, you can also pick up that Head of John has something to do with it, but it isn't necessary to follow what's going on.
>>136111775No better way to troll people than to tell them the truth and watch them still fuck it up (like Yisun calling Ogam an idiot but him being too stupid to understand).
>>136079799I can't tell of you're retarded but anon's referring to the water dripping around her missing limbs in the first page which is kind of a nice touch aesthetically
>>136101175>i told you man, i TOLD you about Royalty!
>>136109275I am indeed into that, my peepee has never been happier
>>136110675>Yo momma so fat when she looked at the Wheel it spelled "WE"
>>136111535It's not that YISUN is right, it's that they reserve the right to change their mind.
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>>136112119I didn't catch that on first read, agreed nice touch.
>>136097682Actually he never took it from Jantris, Maya was the one that did so.
>>136110168daoism is different because it can actually be applied to real life
>>136114021That makes for an awkward situation, yes?Jag standing by while Maya kills Jantris and takes Jantris' key while Incubus either tortured Jantris for his blood alchemy knowledge or raided Jantris' library for All About Blood Alchemy for Dummies.
>>136114021You're right, I just meant that he's the current holder but he didn't take it from Jantris directly.Come to think of it it's strange the comic didn't show how that whole thing went down, it'd make for a good dramatic scene with some cool characterization for Maya and Incubus.
>>136114091>That makes for an awkward situation, yes?I'd assume that at the time Jagganoth wasn't concerned with keys or being a demiurge and instead only cared that Jantris died.
>>136111822It's not about the fucking limbs themselves. It's about the pacing and gravitas of a story. In the previous trial with a demiurge she rejected the prosthetics and it was supposed to a sacrifice and a burden that she suffers in order to achieve something greater. In order for that decision to be impactfull she must suffer some inconvenience be it physical (relying on others to do anything) or psychological (horror at her own mutilated body) and later overcome them to grow as a person.However we got none of that. She doesnt care about how she looks (if prosthetics were just cosmetic). Not a single scene of struggle as an amputee (if prosthetics were a crutch). It just so happens that she had spare limbs all along.Nothing was ventured, nothing was gained. You must be a child enamored with DragonballZ action stance not to feel cheated.>>136114770That's my problem with the comic. All character development happens offpanel. Abaddon prefers to leave things to speculation instead of writing something woth reading.
