>Ghostfreak's consciousness existed in every piece of it's DNA>Kevin had Ghostfreak's DNA Biggest missed opportunity was having Ghostfreak be able to escape via possessing Kevin, they didn't have any explaination for why he couldn't escape before or how he co-ordinated a plan to eclipse the sun with a trio of monsters while he was trapped in the Omnitrix
>>136046281To be fair kevin had none of ghostfreak's powers but it would have been cool.
An even more monstrous looking Kevin that absorbed far too much DNA is something I'm surprised they never did.
>>136048688They did though, Keven 11,000
>>136048688they ran out of actual creatives to run the show so they wasted his potential and turned him into muh angsty bad boy instead of being the anti-ben.the entire franchise is just wasted potential.
>>136048729I more so meant to the extent that the transformation becomes painful and it leaves him as a nearly mindless beast. It's not something they could base a season around, but it could've worked as a two-parter.
>>136048730I dunno, AF kevin is a lot more fun than OS one, and i still mantain that Ult Kevin was more effective as a villain than classic series kevin...who honestly was kind of a dope.
>>136048730Good guy Kevin is vastly more interesting than OS Kevin.
>>136047729That design was sick
>>136048688I would guess it would just be something like diminishing returns, each addtional piece he absorbs becomes less noticeable /useful. In ultimate alien he did forget that he had Big Chill so maybe it would just be werid looking but nothing more
>Named himself Kevin 11 because his name is literally Kevin E. LevinYou think Ben and Gwen would have bullied him more over that.
>>136050332Yeah ben 10 can say a lot about that.
>>136046281Would could keep that in your back pocket for another Kevin goes crazy again arc.
>>136049188OS Kevin had vastly more potential than the lame shit they ended up later doing with him.
>>136052601Considering Reboot Kevin was his original idea I can't help but think MoA would have still have made him a good guy, and pair him with Gwen in the OS. Probably would have gotten a better redemption arc though.
>>136053746If he ain't picking alien x my man is fucking dead
>>136046437I don’t think he didn’t have Ghostfreak’s powers but more so that he just didn’t want to use them. He’s like Ben in that regard where he just wants to smash shit
>>136046281They totally could have used this to justify his redemption in AF, just say that the ghostfreak DNA was turning him evil, yeah it would have been a shitty comic book retcon but it's better than nothing.
>>136054298Atomix curbstomps, I don't think his big monkey muscles could do shit against gravattack or clockwork (if ben bothered to use them properly) either
Word of God is that Kevin was indeed connected to Zs'skayr, which may be why he once said he didn't like Ghostfreak either.
>>136054940Could be a cool future prime Ben 10 plot line. Zs'skayr starts fucking with Kevin in some way.
>>136054940Really? Since when?
>>136046281I don’t think that would’ve worked since it’s only a tenth of Ghostfreak’s DNA and not a whole piece like in the omnitrix
>>136054881Atomix’s powers are too similar to what Goku has to deal with. Gravattack could work but Goku’s trained with high levels of gravity before but the black holes could be trouble for him
>>136055000Or it’s like Venom and they’re a team going after Ben
>>136055651I was thinking more along the lines of Gwen spin off magical possession crap storyline.
>>136055668Oh ok then yeah that could also work. The whole episode could be an Exorcist homage like the Scooby Doo one
Post your ideas for a crossover no matter how crazy. Mine’s pic related
>>136056285Ben 10 x DBZ x Touhou Ben 10 and Scooby-Doo or Teen Titans would be kino
>>136056403A Scooby Doo crossover could be good. Shaggy and Ben would probably get along the best
>>136056285I remember a couple threads ago a dude came up with how Ben would fit into the MHA universe. Technically not a crossover but still kinda fits
>>136053746>>136054298SHITly gets btfo by Echo Echo.
Everyone shut the fuck up we just got more Max 10 with an original transformation
>>136056939And his son Kenjamin Tenjamin
>>136056873Someone edit Broly into this
>>136052639>Considering Reboot Kevin was his original idea I can't help but think MoA would have still have made him a good guy, and pair him with Gwen in the OS.Considering the Reboot is awful garbage that has none of the OS' charm, and considering that Gwen and Kevin had absolutely zero interactions with each other (let alone any with any chemistry), I think that's bullshit.Kevin was clearly originally supposed to be the Reverse-Flash to Ben's Flash--especially looking at how the episode Ken 10 goes. He was clearly originally meant to be irredeemable.
>>136057770Yeah after showing him beat his own kid up you can pretty obviously tell OG Kevin was never going to be a good guy
>>136053746>>136056873Fuck, so could Chromastone.
>>136057770He suspiciously stops showing up after 3 appearances half way through the OS only to show up in the non cannon final season twice, once in a dream sequence and another in a non-cannon (even at the time). Do the math anon.
>>136050332He named himself Kevin 11 because he has all 10 of Ben's powers--plus one of his own.He quite literally says this in his first appearance.
>>136058010>He suspiciously stops showing up after 3 appearances half way through the OS only to show up in the non cannon final season twice, once in a dream sequence and another in a non-cannon (even at the time). Do the math anon....What the fuck are you on about?He didn't "suspiciously stop using him"; Kevin was reserved for seasonal occasions like Vilgax. There's a singular exception to this rule in the OS.You people really need to rewatch the OS before you start spouting off like your 10-years-old memory of it is holding up.
>>136058068>He didn't "suspiciously stop using him"; Kevin was reserved for seasonal occasions like Vilgax. There's a singular exception to this rule in the OS.Correcting myself here: most of his appearances were in season 2. Still have no clue what "math" I should be doing other than the math that ignores all of Kevin's original characterizations.
>>136056285who are the wendigo and the guy with the axe?
>>136058173>Still have no clue what "math" I should be doingBen and Gwen were never going to be love interest, Kevin has a crush on Gwen in the reboot, MOA has stated that Reboot Kevin is more in like with what they originally had planned, Kevin stopped showing up around the time AF would have to go into production, in AF he is quickly redeemed and made a good guy. Does this not seem a bit too coincidental to you?
>>136058023I love how cheesy that line is. It’s my go to Kevin quote
>>136046281I like to imagine the reason was because that section of ghostfreaks dna was fused with all the other dna basically trapping him deep inside Kevin's brain unable to escape since his dna isn't seperated from everything else. Hell you could argue if the Osmosian retcon is what they wanted the reason Kevin in the og series was so manic was because he had fucking Zskayr screaming in agony knowning he can't escape while cursing Tennyson and how he should "burn in hell"
>>136056971It's alright though feels too much like Wildmutt. I get why but I'd expect more differences
>>136058419The Hunter and one of the bosses from Bloodborne
>>136058495>Ben and Gwen were never going to be love interestNever did I claim they were.>Kevin has a crush on Gwen in the rebootThe god-awful reboot?>MOA has stated that Reboot Kevin is more in like with what they originally had plannedTalking heads who want people to consume their product say a lot of things. Funny how that doesn't line up whatsoever with the reality of how Kevin was consistently written in the OS.>Kevin stopped showing up around the time AF would have to go into productionSource on this? Because this is just conjecture on your part otherwise.
>>136058698>consistently written in the OS.To be fair he only had like 3 or 4 episodes before he kind of falls off the map. There was still two more seasons or so left of the os, plenty of time to pull a redemption arc. Remember he also wasn't in the Negative 10, you know Ben's rival.
>>136058836>To be fair he only had like 3 or 4 episodes before he kind of falls off the map.He acts the same way throughout all of his appearances. The "Ken 10" episode confirms that this Kevin is an evil shitbag even though it's considered non-canon because everybody in that timeline still acts has their original characterization.It's way more "convenient" to me that MoA goes>Uhh, yeah, we this is what we TOTALLY meant to do from the beginning!!when there were zero hints of those things. It's much more likely they just borrowed from popular concepts from later series, shoved them into the reboot to maximize viewership in terms of the people who like later stuff from Ben 10, and then said that to also maximize viewership for the people who liked the OS.
>>136058887I don't disagree with you I just like UAF-Reboot Kevin more. OS Kevin was a pretty boring one dimensional character. I think he works better as a tragic villain turned hero.
>>136059009Guess I've just always liked Kevin for the fact that he fulfilled that superhero trope which Sinestro and Reverse-Flash are examples of. Always bugged me how much they just mangled him into a completely different character--especially since that lead to him no longer really being that "reverse-hero" trope anymore.Bugged overall how uninspired the creative choices after the OS are. There's some neat concepts, but so much of the creative heart of the series lies in the OS; the OS was fully willing to embrace being a comic book series that was not only about sci-fi but also the supernatural in general. Everything takes its cue from Alien Force which was so soulless in my opinion.In terms of the whole Gwen love interest angle, I still maintain that Cooper would've made a more natural love interest than Kevin. In the OS, Kevin only sees Gwen as an obstacle or a thing to leverage so Ben will hand over the Omnitrix. Cooper, on the other hand, felt like a natural addition to the cast and had chemistry with both Ben and Gwen in only a two-part special at the end of the series. I'd never watched Negative 10 as a kid and only watched it recently, and I found myself surprised at Cooper and thinking to myself,>"This kid could've would've been a perfect fit to the OS cast."
>>136058646To be fair it is kinda hard to come up with ideas for aliens when they’ve pretty much all been done. It’s why there’s a few redundant aliens
>>136059273I think that's just a matter of creativity. You have to start going with the Araki angle--thinking up wacky concepts for powers.I mean, you still then have the problem of balancing those aliens with the pre-existing ones, but I don't think it's impossible--just difficult.
>>136046437>>136046281Pretty cool art. Ypu know a episode where a ghostfreak clone comes out of Kevin's body could be extremely cool and kinda grotesque, but in good way, like how the OG show had all this body horror
>>136059136I don't think Kevin's OS self was all to well thought out, how can you have a homeless 11 year child abandoned by his parent with image problems ("You just haven't had the chance to make fun of me") and not expect me to sympathize with him? If Kevin were closer to say Charmcaster's age I would agree with you 100% but the kids balls haven't even dropped.
>>136055217I thought Zs'skay said a single drop is enough for him to comeback?
>>136059428>I don't think Kevin's OS self was all to well thought out, how can you have a homeless 11 year child abandoned by his parent with image problems ("You just haven't had the chance to make fun of me") and not expect me to sympathize with him?When in the OS did they say he was abandoned? Could've just slipped my mind, but I'm pretty sure it's left ambiguous. His ego always made me think he was a run-away more than anything else.>If Kevin were closer to say Charmcaster's age I would agree with you 100% but the kids balls haven't even dropped.You're acting as if children can't be inherently bad. There are some kids who are just evil by nature; it's not that something was done to them to make them bad (poor parenting/abuse/neglect), some kids are just wired differently. Kevin seemed more like one of those kids given his manipulative streak and complete lack of empathy.
>>136059335Yeah. I always look at it as a matter of execution with the example of Heatblast and NRG. Both technically have fire based powers, but NRG is lasers while Heatblast is more traditional pyrokinesis
>>136059509It's essentially a matter of making sure every alien has its niche. There needs to be a reason why you would choose Ripjaws over one of the other aquatic aliens that've come out since--otherwise, what's the point of his existence?
>>136059461That's why I believe the ghostfreak in kevin just is unable to leave cause hes horrifically fused with the rest of the other alien dna to the point where he can't fully escape Kevin theory
>>136059537Exactly and I think that’s why Fasttrack bothers people so much. There’s nothing that makes him unique compared to XLR8. And whatever is, is never shown in universe
>>136059567I always thought that because Kevin has only 1/10th of all the aliens powers, there’s just not enough DNA for a full Zs’Skayr
>>136059637To be fair, he was able to fully transform into each of the 10 before he became the abomination thing; he looked like slightly altered versions of the aliens in "Framed"
>>136059661That’s a good point actually. Maybe Kevin just didn’t have his basic Ghostfreak powers long enough for Zs’Skayr to wake up if that makes sense. Ben always said that he felt weird as Ghostfreak till he busted out, so maybe he just needs time in the spotlight to get his strength up before a full on takeover
>>136059479>You're acting as if children can't be inherently bad.I think most people would have empathy for a homeless 11 year old kid. Fuck it I am going to say it again. If Kevin were a girl you'd be nutting your pants over her.
>>136059893>If Kevin were a girl you'd be nutting your pants over her.No, but she probably would've had more utility in at least giving Ben somebody to flirt with who he has actually chemistry with. Also, none of whatever the hell you just said invalidates what I said: some kids are just inherently evil. Kevin was consistently written as one of those types in the OS even back in his first appearance.
>>136059945Fine cool man you're right Kevin in Ben 10 is crazy, I sure hope they don't spend the next 18 years turning him into a good guy.
>>136059596Yeah he’s supposedly stronger and a better fighter but we never see him actually fighting
>>136049188Definitely agree>>136049276Should have been used more.>>136052601Did he? OS kevin while he had a cool gimmick was pretty one note, and after his first two episodes didnt really offer ben anything than any of the hundreds of other villains didnt. He wasnt even that effective. Power wise i can agree.>>136052639Intresting to note MOA didnt even have that much involvement with OS, they complained about it in an interview.>>136057770The reboot is solid for its specials, and reboot vilgax is fun at least.And yeah according to the creators he was intended as that, originally with his own omnitrix and everything.>>136058023That's a bit of a lie>Cant use grey matter>Cant use ghostfreak>Cant use upgrade>Cant use his own powersHe's more like kevin 7.>>136058887To be fair wehter ben 10.000 was meant to be the true future back in OS has never really been established, its clearly not the loop kind of time travel in the show proper.To be fair we do know the whole evil omnitrix thing was their idea production wise. And MOA did not story edit OS, story editors are massively important.>>136059136Well he still did, he followed the venom path. I dunno AF took a lot of comic book stuff, hell the show runner was still a comic writer. And honestly OS is a very generic show narrative wise, its carried by its stellar art and fun concept.Cooper didnt exist when AF was being made, s4 of OS and s1 of AF were in production at the same time.>>136059428Charmcaster too, its clear she was in an abusive family relationship but JK she's just evil. And with kevin past his debut it feels they forgot he's literally 11.>>136059479He said he was kicked out. And he had a literal gang picking on him calling him a freak. Well if you want to be true, law in new york means he wouldnt be considered responsabile, even back in 2005
>>136060507>That's a bit of a lie>>Cant use grey matter>>Cant use ghostfreak>>Cant use upgrade>>Cant use his own powers>He's more like kevin 7.That's a bit of a lie. He can use all of them--including his own--as shown in "Framed". The merged one is all of them in one which is still 11 because they're only merged because of his power.>Well he still did, he followed the venom path.Venom's been shit since he became a good guy.> And honestly OS is a very generic show narrative wise, its carried by its stellar art and fun concept.The original leans more into being a celebration of American comic books in general rather than being mostly sci-fi shit with some superficial elements of the other stuff sprinkled in.>He said he was kicked out. And he had a literal gang picking on him calling him a freak.Kevin was probably kicked out for the same reason the gang was fucking with him: he uses his powers to be a shitbag. And that gang was picking on him because they fucked with them--they say that and he lies to sweep that under the rug. >Intresting to note MOA didnt even have that much involvement with OS, they complained about it in an interview.Turns out, if they're not lying about the Reboot (which they probably are to an extent), that's probably what made OS Ben 10 good in the first place; MoA aren't exactly what made Ben 10 good in the first place.
>>136060507Good design .
>>136054298>>136054881>>136056873>>136058009Getting uppity again are we?
>>136059893Fem teenage kevin>
>>136060958Yeah OG Kevin 11 is that best design. Second is Kevin 11,000, third is OV Kevin, then Ultimate Kevin, and last is Mineral Man Kevin
>>136046281I wish they gave Kevin a Ghostfreak eye in his chest vein
>>136061338AF’s mutant form was lame as fuck. And it was stupid that the writers were saying that he absorbed DNA from the omnitrix again when it’s so obviously not the case
>>136061019Wow look who finally showed up
>>136060635Visually yes, but in his mutated form he cant asborb energy, nor can he use any of those aliens powers. So kevin 7 is more apt.Just saying the dark mirror villain being redeemed is the single most case for comics (hell even three of the five reverse flashes have sort of gotten that at some point). And which time? The attempt at making him a villain again as gargan sucked hard (despite having potential) and then they basically made him a government agent. And id say it has some good stuff and some bad stuff. Tho at the same time id argue venom was a much more fun villain than kevin ever was.I dunno, all of them lean into comic stuff just as much, OS leans just as much into 50s b movie sci fi that's really something the other shows didnt have as much.He still was an 11 year old forced into the streets of fucking New York. To be fair they also clearly have a low opinion of him and derogatorily call him a freak and are significantly older. You could aruge that, tho then again i dont think the writing for OS past season 1 was ever the high point. Barring some episodes like ben 10.000, ken 10 or SOTO it was generally more a spectacle driven show, which is tied to the basic concept more than anything.>>136061338For me its>Kevin 11.000>OV flashback kevin>Ult kevin>Os kevin 11>Ov present day kevin>AF kevin (does he even count?)>>136061799The metamorpho look was lame, i like the fan design that makes it a mix of the 4 escaped aliens instead.
>>136060958The sharper diamondhead bits are my favorite slight change.
>>136062403Oh that is cool. I like how his anti gravity projector is where his shoulder is
>>136062403Kevin 11,000 is my favorite since he looks like a Lovecraftian monster with all the tentacles. I also like how he keeps the little Wildmutt arms, makes me think it’s conscious choice to keep them
>>136061799The only good thing that came out of this mutation was him getting shapeshifting
Post favorite characters. Albedo’s gotta be my favorite character, very compelling and also funny. And he’s got a good design for a “Reverse Ben”. Bonus points for introducing the Ultimate Aliens (my favorite gimmick after DNA scanning)
>>136063770for me it's buzz
>>136064034He really lucked out when they were handing out nicknames
>>136048688I thought it was really fucked up that Kevin's punishment was being severely disfigured and mutated until I looked up the story of his first episode and was reminded that he was going to kill several hundred people for shits and giggles. Glad they fixed up his character later, but goddamn.
>>136064539Honestly even then its a bit weird given how he clearly seems to have some actual mental issue that should be adressed rather than just sending him off to space jail dimension.
>>136054864That would've felt super cheap and unearned.
>>136061799That is just Metamorpho but with hair. Can't believe there are literal faggots on this board liking this shit. You fucking niggers have abyssal fucking shit taste
>>136064708Who the hell here said they liked it? We’re all in agreement that it sucks shit
>>1360613382/11 Too much Heatblast
>>136064946>out of 11I see what you did there. Maybe it is too much Heatblast desu but I still like it
>>136050332Ben "Ten"nysonKevin "E. Levin"Their names are literally Ben10 and Kevin11.
>>136064708I think most people that like AF dislike it?
>>136058023And yet he never used his electric powers ever again after that.
>>136065197There were no electrical sockets for him to get juiced up
>>136063770For me it’s Argit
>>136064708I liked it for the character development. Also as someone who didn't up with it, I think the OS is over rated episodic shit faggots here only like because they are incestfags.
>>136065655Personally i like all 4 classic shows and the reboot specials. They each have their strengths and weaknesses and we havent seen a show that uses the set up of ben 10 to its fullest potential yet.
>>136065422Aw dude Argit’s the best. Make sure to vote for him when he runs
>>136065753Same but I haven’t seen the reboot yet. I’ve heard it actually gets better after season 1 but I’m not willing to sit through that art style. I know it’s a very shallow reason not to watch it but whatever
>>136065115No they don’t he’s just trying to start shit
>>136066042The way i see it, the specials are really the only thing worth watching about the reboot, you can more or less skip everything else save one or two episodes and not loose anything.
>>136066266how often did ben use the mummy or the frankenstein
>>136067415bummer. even considering other series
>>136067424They showed up a few times in the other ones.
>>136064707Very much so.
>>136067644Damn she gotta have big tentacles under these things
>>136065655>character developmentHe went from a brainless edgy retard to a brainless white knight. Like, nigga just showed up one day and go "acktually i am good now, no bully pls, also i will go whereever u go and be loyal and shit." Fucking hell
>>136068490It was rushed but it was a few episodes to be fair.
>>136046281Sue me but I prefer Diamondhead with stone
>>136067047I hope this guy does some more art of this, big fan of their AU
>>136068490>Horny teenager white knights waaaaaahThis is fucking rich considering where you fucking are.
>>136068862What’s better than this? Just guys being dudes
>>136068748It would look better if it was just his torso
>>136068432I’d let her drink my fluid if you catch my drift
>>136067047Holy fuck, I noticed these eyes only now. I love Albedo with Galvan attributes
>>136070487Him having the Galvan eyes/gills looks really cool imo. Wish he had them in the show even though it wouldn’t make sense
>>136046281Ghostfreak had a cool design but I don't think he did more than just turn invisible
>>136068490You are in every Ben 10 thread seething about UAF Kevin lmao
>>136071264He’s used his tentacles to grab people/things, he’s also got claws, he literally gave Thumbskull a stroke, and his possession ability. He’s a pretty busted alien all things considered and I’m not even talking about Zs’Skayr himself
>>136071306We’ve all gotta have a hobby
>>136071702Bros... I wish we had more Horror-themed Aliens.>>136046281
>>136072413Yeah the Anur aliens are pretty dope. Ripjaws and Toepick sort of count to since they’re more monstrous than say Humungosaur
>>136072413They really are great and you could make a full team if there were just four more to fit the theme
I’d love for Ben to have a Space Godzilla, Gigan, or Ghidorah transformation. And yeah kaiju can be scanned into the Omnitrix since they’ve been shown to have a form of sentience
>>136072860>Blitzwolfer>Ghostfreak>Whampire>Snare-Oh>Frankenstrike>Juryrigg>Toepick>Ripjaws>Chamalien>WildmuttI tried to think of other aliens that could fit. If you guys can think of better aliens to pick go for it
>>136073115I think all of theses fit well except Wildmutt, maybe Stinkfly could fit for The Fly. Chamalien was a good pick for The Invisible Man.
>>136073270Yeah I just put Wildmutt as a place holder since he looks like the aliens from Attack the Block and Stinkfly made the list cause he’s gross. Chamalien was a definite pick as the Invisible Man of the playlist
>>136073115Swampfire for the swamp-thing/man-thing niche
>>136073426Goop could also function as The Blob now that I think about it
>>136073536Eh he’s not gross or weird enough, especially his bloomed form
>>136073635That could work especially since he’s also acidic so I guess now it would be>Blitzwolfer - The Wolf Man>Whampire - Dracula>Frankenstrike - Frankenstein>Snare-Oh - The Mummy>Ripjaws - The Creature from the Black Lagoon>Chamalien - The Invisible Man>Stinkfly - The Fly>Goop - The Blob>Toepick - Lovecraftian Monster>Juryrigg - GremlinsToepick’s Lovecraftian since he’s so scary/ugly it’s drives people insane
>>136073784Not a bad playlist, honestly
>>136073866Yeah it’s got good variety which I like in a fan omnitrix playlist. I’m also glad I was able to get a movie reference for all of them with the exception of Toepick
>>136073866Niche playlists are the best like that one guy who made one of just electric aliens (and XLR8 because of a non canon static electricity punch)
>>136073536Cool how his feet look like they’re rooted into the ground
>>136073784>Good range of abilities>No overlap on powers>No blatant weaknesses>No single alien is unanimously better than the restIt's a really solid playlist, that would be great for a horror themed. Maybe Toepick could function as the last resort alien if he takes off the mask and chains.
>>136055008Pretty sure it was a line Kevin said in AF or Omniverse
>>136073784I’m thinking the alternate Ben that has this playlist would be a huge horror fanatic so getting this playlist would be a dream come true for him since he’s essentially becoming the monsters from his favorite movies/stories
>>136067291I like to imagine his ability is being able to launch himself in a single direction. Like Cannonbolt in the new mutants.
>>136055008Gwen remarks that Ben had problems with Ghostfreak in the OS and Kevin retorts that he never liked him, which is weird because he never saw Ben change into him.
>>136075015With that you could bullshit that Kevin had some kinda problem when he turned into Ghostfreak so he just stopped using him altogether
>>136075015Kevin transformed into Ghostfreak off-screen before he turned into a hybrid.
>>136075015Wasn't it implied that ben and kevin had encounters off screen between framed and grudge match?
Love when goofs off with his powers it’s a very comfy idea
>>136075522I thought that Grudge Match was the first time they saw him since that’s when he officially calls himself Kevin 11
>>136076132>Think fast chucklenuts!
>>136074389You do have two stretchy guys.
>>136077015Snare-Oh’s more for like restraining guys and Goop’s more goopy for lack of a better term. He can also dissolve stuff with his acid
>>136077015True, but I think they function differently enough to have their own nice. Alongside what >>136077167 said Goop's regeneration is better, but Snare-Oh doesn't have the anti gravity device weakness.
>>136077309Yeah everyone has their use in this playlist. No redundancy
>>136068862>fire manipulation>regeneration>plant control>bomb seeds>can create explosions with swamp gas and a little fireYou'd think Swampfire would be used more often but Humongosaur it is
>>136077426Like I always say; Ben’s a bruiser so if he can’t use an alien to just smash his opponents he’s not gonna use him
>>136077426I wouldn’t say Swampfire has fire manipulation, he’s more like a flamethrower
>>136076132Fuck I forgot how big the Highbreed are
>>136078262Fuck the filename got me>If I take off the omnitrix will it kill you?>It will be extremely painful>You’re a big guy>For you
>>136074389>Hey Vilgax wanna see something cool?
>>136065852What’s his tax policy?
>>136078262Big banana boys
>>136050332Don't they make fun of it at one point?
Ball Weavel is pretty cute.
>>136079116Him and Ditto are the top contenders
>>136048688Not marketable can't make a toy like that too many details.
>>136079110Kevin makes fun of Gwen for having a brother named Ken and how her, Ben, and Ken all have similar sounding names
>>136079349Bold talk from a guy whose got a dad named Devin and eventually has a kid named Devlin
>>136071702>gave Thumbskull a strokeI forgot he could do that that’s un ironically kinda scary. Imagine fighting a kid who turns into a weird ghost looking thing and then next thing you know it can’t move half your face
>>136063770>Elena>Charmcaster>Rei from EvangelionHe’s also got a harem to rival Ben’s. At least in weirdness of characters
>>136079116>>136079131Walkatrout is cute the same way a pug is
>>136081071The fact that they're each in different orders is extremely disorienting.
>>136081540Yeah it’s weird you’d think it go in order
>>136081956*it wouldI gotta start fucking paying attention when typing Jesus
>>136072413Tom Perkins made a few (non-canon) anur-alien concepts. Like this one based on the Creature from the Black Lagoon.
>>136082189I like his fashionable swim trunks
>>136072911Humongosaur & Way Big are the closest you get there.
>>136082524Way Big is an Ultraman reference so yeah he kinda counts. So does Humungosaur but he has to grow into his kaiju form. Ultimate Humungosaur would count to, especially if he was the size of gully grown Humungosaur
>>136082632Unfortunately just no real Benzilla kaiju kaiju form. I'll take the trade off for the Ultraman reference though.
>>136082718It’s better than nothing. Besides I don’t think they could come up with a name that wasn’t super on the nose like “Benzilla” or something
>>136082882Ben's a dork so it fits enough. But if you had to twist my arm to come up with a better name, maybe something like 'Atomic Rex' if you're going for the standard Godzilla idea.
>>136083152Very cute find
>>136084413Kevin being evil but liking Gwen would have been fun.
>>136064708>That is just Metamorpho but with hair.Ok and?
>>136058010>non canonWhat the fuck are you on?
>>136084973Retroactively thats kinda what we got.
>>136085176Did they really?
>>136068490Go rewatch the first season of Alien Force. It was not exactly sudden and he was being sly at the start and wanted to fuck the energy girl he was sensing because he does crave his crack.
>>136084413>thisKill every faggot who does these ugly Omnitrix redesigns
>>136086251I’m all for a big clunky omnitrix but what the fuck is that
>>136084413Kevin not being buff looks weird
>>136087159Kino whos the author?
>>136087159He can only exist in humid environments
>>136085323They make it pretty clear in Omniverse flashbacks that they both had crushes on one another as kids.
>>136087367In OS it was a very different kind of crush
>>136087159>Heatjaws found shot to death by rival gang
>>136087398>Implying she didn't ask Grandpa Max why that made her giney tingle.
Hooo boy, AI chats are GOOD
>>136087398How fucked do you think Kevin’s depth perception was since he had three eyes? I imagine him just bumping into shit out missing his attacks cause he can’t really tell how close or far something/someone is
>>136087980Kevin sees Ben as Eye Guy and just goes “God I wish that was me”
>>136087967I mean, he is a kid and he wants to have funBut when you need a superhero he gets the job done
>>136088501Yeah man when lives are on the line it’s hero time you know?
>>136087736>Hey Kevin remember when you almost shocked my arm off?>Yeah sorry about th->Do it AGAIN!
>>136089400You just know they have the craziest sex life
>>136089893>Babe can we have normal sex tonight?>No now turn into Kevin 11,000>Ok
>>136058009Excluding Alien X, Always felt Chromastone was one of Ben's strongest aliens. Insanely durable and could absorb any energy attacks.
>>136086049How many of those guys made it to their home planet? I reckon about half accidentally got hit by random spaceships
>>136090641He can also fly even if it does look kinda goofy
>>136090220>Wildmutt, Humungusaur, buzzshock...Babe what's with this list?>You know what it is.
>>136091561>I don’t wanna know why you want me to have Null Guardian tentacles>I thought it would be obvious
>>136091561So kevin just wants normal sex one day, right?
I have yet to see anyone mention how good the sound design is in the showWildmutt in og series, echo echo sound blasts, goop anit-grav projector, upgrade morpging and diamondhead crystals all fuck hard
>>136093382Dude actually Wildmutt’s weird ass noises are really fucking cool. And the OS Omnitrix has the best sound effects out of all of themhttps://youtu.be/5ot64MEP1U0
>>136093382I’d like to point out how hard classic’s music for the transformation sequences was https://youtu.be/-MvvLpBO1sg
>>136092936Yes but who knows if he’ll ever get it
>>136093382They really are because I haven't watched the series in years but could hear everything you just mentioned
>>136092936>Ben and Kevin both marry weird sex freaksPoetry
>>136094676I never really noticed that each alien got their own unique theme. Only one I remember is Gray Matter since his lead into his little theme
Need Albedo to have a redemption arc so him and Ben can be pseudo brothers and hang out
>>136097683I thought about this idea A LOT>Albedo somehow gets a forgiveness of Azmuth, but with benefits>He's still banished from Galvan Prime and still locked as a 11 yo Ben, but aging in a human speed>He's forced to live in a Tennysons family as a human from now on with a legend of being Ben's distant cousin >This is because Azmuth wants to teach Albedo Omnitrix's main gimmick>"Walk a mile in someone's shoes", but this time willingly>Albedo now lives in Ben's room and Ben's parents are either dumb or either been told its an Ben from alternate dimension who's on "recovery" from whatever reason>Ben is living on Plumber's base>Wednesday-type TV show, but SCI-FI>Of course he would go to school>And of course he will not understand why in first place>Albedo constantly flexes with his intellect, but incredibly fucks up ending up becoming class-clown/nerd And holy shit, MCQUEEN CROCKS AND RESKIN OF GWEN'S T-SHIRT HOLY KINO
>>136097892Love this idea and I’ve got two, maybe three, additions. First I think it would be funnier/more in character for Sandra and Carl to know about Albedo’s deal and let him live with them to be nice. Second would be to have Azmuth to give him the chance to go back to normal, but he chooses to stay human after learning to appreciate his situation. Third would be to have him back as his 16 year old Ben body purely because I like the reversed jacket. Also does he still have his Ultimatrix/powers?
>>136098263I made an idea of keeping Albedo's tru personality a secret on purpose, because it would be strange and freak up Ben's parents, the endgame is simple and good, I like it, but I think about, what if Albedo would constantly switch between Galvan tastes and Human tastes if you know what I mean. Third, yes, keep the Ultimatrix
>>136098345I think it would be cool to have him wear Galvan inspired clothing at home or visiting Azmuth for something like a parole check in. He could bullshit to Ben’s parents that in “his universe” they’re casual clothes. Also, I like the idea of Albedo starting to name his aliens (primarily the Ultimates) and asking Ben to help him in a bonding moment. God knows what he would name them though
>>136097892Albedo goes to Ben’s old high school and comes back home going >What is Young Sheldon and why do my peers keep calling me that?
Something I've always been curious, can Kevin absorb Alien X dna? Even if diluted he could probably still do something with that, like gain some sort of power.And it always disappointed me they made him go insane absorbing energy or DNA but always limited to the omnitrix. i wish they would try make him starting absorbing more stuff like magic or different types of energy that would lead to him going insane in different way. Like he is thrown in to a blackhole for whatever reason and the only way for him to survive is he absorbing the singularity and he gets trapped in time in some fucked up way and not even Professor Paradox can save him. i think it would be a neat to explore his powers in different ways.
>>136098998>can Kevin absorb Alien X dna?Yes, but only from babies according to the end of the Aggregor arc.
>>136099087No he can get them just fine from an adult one. Aggregor wanted a baby specifically because they don’t have the two other personalities
>>136080303post more anon
>>136099387Ok. I guess Rojo would make a fun love interest for him. She’s a teched out villain and I can see her going to him for some upgrades and then just deciding to keep him around. Albedo would think her whole cyborg thing is fascinating and helps her come up with ideas for bigger and badder weapons. The only thing he’s not allowed to work on though is her bike, that’s purely Rojo’s (he can make suggestions but it’s up to her if she’ll use them). Plus red is their primary color so they match which I think is cute
>>136098998>Absorbing magicThat’s already Darkstar’s thing
>>136080303>Rei from EvangelionCome again?
>>136100546You saw the image man what else do I gotta explain. There are actually little comics made I’ll try and find one (they’re actually kinda cute imo)
>>136100712Couldn’t find it but here’s some more from that artist
>>136101213And now it’s time for edgy art
>>136101213Holy kino, what's her name?
>>136101429And that’s all I got folks. If anyone has that comic post it please
>>136101448Kamii Momoru. She’s got an Instagram but she kinda wiped it clean but her stuff’s floating around on the internet
>>136101691I know about the author... I'm asking about the kid... And somehow, I actually predicted that Kamii would give Albedo EXACTLY a girl
>>136101753My mistake. It’s Rei Ayanami, I don’t really know her deal but she’s like a really intelligent character who’s in a similar situation with Albedo. The whole ship kinda hinges on this common ground between them
>>136101213>>136101429>>136101516Okay, these are pretty cute.
>>136101945Your eyes have been opened
>>136073784Honestly I would swap Chamalien for Big Chill or maybe put Ghostfreak back on the list.
>>136103177Oh fuck I completely forgot Ghostfreak! I’ll swap Stinkfly out for him.>Blitzwolfer - The Wolf Man>Whampire - Dracula>Frankenstrike - Frankenstein>Snare-Oh - The Mummy>Ghostfreak - Poltergeist>Ripjaws - The Creature from the Black Lagoon>Chamalien - The Invisible Man>Toepick - Lovecraftian Monster>Goop - The Blob>Juryrigg - GremlinsThere it’s perfect now and I got a movie reference for Ghostfreak. Still don’t have one for Toepick though but whatever 9/10 ain’t bad
>>136084973Can we just make Kevin evil again? I miss Kevin 11. Having a romance with Gwen at the same time is the cherry on top.
>>136099627Much like how there was the Negative 10 in the OS, giving an Albedo a Negative AF Trio could be interesting. If Albedo’s Ben and Rojo’s “Kevin”, I would say either go with Charmcaster or Darkstar to keep the symmetry up. Maybe have Darkstar so the male to female ratio’s the same, but with the little Charmcaster Totem she turned into at the end of Omniverse. I kind of want to think up a hypothetical “Negative Rook” but nothing’s coming to mind.
>>136103431That’s something I’ve thought of too! Mine’s Albedo, Charmcaster, and Argit thought. But Darkstar could work but he seems to be a solo act, I don’t really see him willingly joining a team (especially if he wasn’t the leader). It would be funny if his team had both Rojo and Charmcaster just so Ben could go “How come Albedo of all people gets to hang out with cute girls all day?”. A “Negative Rook” though yeah that’s tricky I’ll have to think of someone. Maybe one of the Rooters like Swift or Leander
>>136103730Hold on I think I have something for Albedo’s “negative” supporting cast>Negative Max - Phil>Negative Kevin - Argit or Rojo>Negative Gwen - Charmcaster or Darkstar>Negative Rook - Leander or Swift
>>136103934>Negative Rook - Leander or SwiftI don’t think the Rooters work for a Negative Rook, Fistrix might work since he was paired against Rook for a lot of episodes, but personally I would want another Alien on the team so Khyber might work since he’s such a Hunting Autist and his dream in that one episode was just to be accepted by others.
>>136104022Khyber makes the most sense since they’ve already worked together. But the idea of Albedo having to spend any amount of time with Fistrix is hilarious to me>Hey Red Ben bro!>I already told you I’m not your brother!
Fuck all this talk Albedo ships also got me thinking about pairing him and Swift. They’re both augmented humans in a way so I think they could have some good interactions. If the thread is still up I’ll try to write a greentext of him and Rojo and maybe this one if I can think of something
Anyone have that pic/comic of Kevin making fun of a kid’s drawing that Ben has until Ben says it’s from one of the Big Chill Babies? I’m been looking for it and can’t find it.
>>136099627I need Rojo art, NOW.
>>136106858Got some pinups?
>>136056971>Max 10>Not Max’s MillionCome on, the pun was right there.
>>136046281Watching the first 13 episodes of Ben 10 made me realize how shitty and stale everything made after the OS was/is in comparison.
Rewatched Grudge Match and Technorg was pretty based. Would have loved to see the guy return down the line, maybe even still believing Ben was his master. Imagining this dude as Ben’s sidekick or student is kind of funny.
>>136101908No! I know its Rei, I'm asking about the DAUGHTER!
>when you build a human-sized sword for no fucking reason
Benbros, we're on page 10!!!! OH NO!!!
>>136108728How did that sword de-age George?
>>136109050Like the Omnitrix ages its user
>>136046437i remember he become intangible in one fight against ben, he only did that one or two times in all the series
>>136109082I don't remember that
>>136109068Isn't it the other way around?
>>136046281>in every pieceIirc his consciousness needs to two or three strands of DNA. Also didn't he make that plan after leaving the omnitrix?
>>136109285Its all tech made by Azmuth, so he probably took some developments from Ascalon and added them to the Omnitrix
>>136108935>tfw the British try to steal you for one of their museums
>>136108339Fuck dude I’m sorry I don’t know about that
>>136108728When both George and Ben fail to defeat Dagon it’s up to Azmuth to save the day
>>136109388God Zs’Skayr’s design is cool
>>136099627 The best love interest for Albedo would be Sunny.
>>136110583That one off character? Who even are her parents?
>>136110621Verdona could have had prior flings before meeting Max. In UAF Gwen's mom said her and Gwen played together a bit as kids so maybe she just calls her cousin out of habit.
>>136110197>Ben I’ve seen you jerk it from inside the Omnitrix>Please leave me alone
>>136111131>Ben rarely jerked off not because he managed to overcome the urge>Ben rarely jerked off because Ghostfreak might spy on him
>>136111161It’s always in the back of his mind that one of his transformations might go rogue again so he rarely jerks off
>>136111341>mfw my rouge alien reminds me that time I jerked off to Incursean porn as a Bullfrag
>>136108334>Master I have returned!>No way you’re still alive!
>>136111637>LEMME TELL YOU SOMETHING ANON WHO USED TO TURN INTO ME BEFORE I BUSTED OUT OF THE OMNITRIX!!>RATH THINKS YOUR TASTE IN PORN IS QUESTIONABLE AT BEST!!!
Am I in the minority for liking Kevin's transformations in the reboot? If we had to do a new kinda serious reboot again, make some bullshit saying his omnitrix stabilizes the dna after he absorbed Ben's omnitrix. Ben breaks it and Kevin becomes his monstrous form.
>>136111819They should have used it to bring back aliens from the original continuity that weren't on ben's playlist
>>136104497Alright I’m a man of my word so here’s Albedo x Rojo, so I hope someone likes it. Also I’m not an engineer so keep that in mind>Rojo hated going to others for upgrades>The idea of a stranger screwing with her body didn’t sit right with her>But time was short and this next job was quickly approaching so she didn’t have much choice>At least it wasn’t her bike this guy would be touching>All Fistrick had told her was the guys name, Albedo, and to “Not be surprised by how the dude looks”>Which she didn’t get. She’s seen tons of freaks in her time so what could be so weird about this guy?>Oh shit he looks just like Ben Tennyson
>>136112558Cont>Albedo just responded with a slightly annoyed “I get that a lot” and motioned for her to sit down so he could get to work>As he stated he was surprised at just how sophisticated her body was>Bits of Vilgax’s old drones, some Forever Knight tech, and her own stuff all meshed together exceedingly well>He told her as much and Rojo to her credit took the complement in stride>It was nice of someone to take notice of her engineering prowess and not just her destructive capabilities>She then takes notice of the Omnitrix like device on the back of his right hand and asks about it>He explains his Ultimatrix, the evolution function, and how it stabilizes his transformations>She teases that for a knock off it actually sounds pretty cool
>>136112725>Albedo is quick to say that it’s not just “cool” it’s superior in every way and he’d be happy to show her sometime>That’s weird, usually when someone insults his creation he just snaps at them not invite them for a demonstration>Well it’s not like she meant any harm. And to be honest she is quite attractive >In a dangerous and spiky sort of way>He’d also like to pick her brain on how she gets all these different sorts of technology to work together and->Rojo snaps him out of it by asking if he’s ok seeing as he just sorta spaced out for a second>Albedo recovers and says he was just thinking about something before quickly wrapping up>Right before she leaves though, he asks if she really would like to get together sometime and talk shop
>>136112836>This is new for Rojo>Not that she’s never been asked out before, tons of guys have>But only cause of her reputation or how “Hot” she was, next to none ever wanted to just tinker with her or stuff like that>And he seemed to know his stuff if he was able to do this good a job. Not to mention his Ultimatrix thing>And well he was kinda cute in his own, trying hard to be intimidating, kinda way >So she agreed but it would have to be after this job>Albedo agreed since he was also busy that day but they quickly agreed and he wished her luck (she’d need it if Tennyson showed up)>Rojo confidently said she didn’t need luck before driving off. Again she was interested if he really could turn into Ben’s aliens, hopefully he didn’t have that circuitry looking goopy one (her least favorite), but she would just have to wait and see>Albedo was excited too. Not only had he met someone with an appreciation for technology he found himself oddly, giddy around her wanting to know more about her>Well he’d have to worry about that later as Fistrick walked in with a broken gun and an apologetic smile>Turns out both Rojo and Albedo had more in common than they thought
>>136112558>>136112725>>136112836>>136113023Well there it is. I’m pretty ok with this, my only problem is that I couldn’t really think of an ending so it kinda just fizzled out. Who knows maybe people will like it. If anyone has any feedback let me know, I’d like to improve if I write another one
>>136109409Or grind you into medicine
>>136111695Rath is a canon nudist
Thread is tldr but I might as well ask, what the fuck happens to Keven during and after Alien Force because I have no idea. Last I remember he's going through an episode with Gwen after the aliens getting their DNA fucked to survive and then I don't remember much else.
>>136113282The Forever Knight’s latest scheme, kill every Thep Khufan and make over the counter medicine out of them
>>136113514I was expecting bigger to be honest
The Albedo Force, aka the Negative Alien Force, seems like a fun idea, besides Albedo as Ben, we’ve got:>Negative Max - Phil>Negative Kevin - Argit or Rojo>Negative Gwen - Charmcaster or Darkstar>Negative Rook - Fistrick or KhyberI imagine they all come together like that one Ducktales episode where Glomgold makes his own family of villains. Might be fun to make Greentexts of the group.
>>136114423Albedo tries to call it The Albedo Force when he assembled the team but everyone gave him shit for it so he changed it to The Negative Alien Force. Also if this is going to be a team of villains the Kevin of the group should be Rojo, Argit is a legitimate businessman after all
didnt the OG serie just never concluded kevin plot
>>136115084Not really they just kinda left him in the Null Void then he busted out in time for Alien Force
>>136113484After Alien Force he goes with Gwen to her college and has a job at a local garage
>>136113318If you’ve got it flaunt it you know?
Is julie a tomboy too?
>>136054298fucking Ghostfreak or Big Chill can just run the clock until he tuckers himself out
>>136115774I don't think so, for some reason I always picture Julie as a more prim and proper upper class student council kind of girl, which is odd because that description would fit Gwen but in my mind whenever I think of Gwen I definitely think tomboy.
>>136105707>Ben uses his aliens to psychologically fuck with his enemiesHonestly I’d do the same
>>136116574Ohhhh this is awesome, its also contains WHAMPIRE, which is rare to see
>>136116614Yeah Whampire doesn’t really get a lot of fan art
>>136117032Almost every OV alien doesn't get a good fan-art! GUTROT DESERVES ONE!!! AND WHAMPIRE TOO!
>>136117032Its because he's kinda shit. he's the long awaited vampire of the horror movie set and they ruined him with a shitty lucha gimmick. Not helped by being in a garbage season.
>>136117053The OS10 and the AF10 are the most iconic after all.
>>136117053Gutrot is such a great alien, wish he got to show up more
>>136116058Gwen in sportswear just looks right.
>>136117179>female kevin using lipstickCringe as fuck
>>136117814She’s allowed to look pretty if she wants
>>136117814Male Kevin walks around wearing a ripped sleeve shirt and a bike chain on his neck, female Kev would be at least as tryhard if not more so.
>>136118552>TryhardKevin is a bit of a try hard but he’s got the confidence to pull it off
>>136117814Should be bigger.
>>136113200So you didn’t like it?
Every single line he says is just a dude with his nose blockedIt has no right sounding so cool
>>136119759That’s Swampfire’s real power, sounding cool even with a sinus congestion
>>136109301No on the wiki it says that Ben used Ghostfreak to sneak into a horror movie, Zs’Skayr was finally strong enough to take control, then contacted Viktor before Ben timed out
>>136120922>giving wildmutt a nose
>>136121018Yeah what’s even the point of the gills at that point? It’s like taking XLR8’s ball feet away
>>136121018Insane mane has some great stuff and then does that.
>>136121082And Wildmutt's design was already about as perfect as you get what could you even change about it, even the older Vulpimancers we saw in the OS never looked as good without the spines and lips.
>>136121248I’ll give the design this though; the spiky fur looks, darker shade of orange, and the overall body shape looks really good. And how his bottom teeth jut out I like that too
>>136068598it happened in the first episode nigga
>>136121374Not really, in the first episode he's still selfish and selling weapons, it takes the end of the second episode and labrid's death for him to change. Which is rushed still but not exactly instantaneous.
>>136121526>>136121552I wonder if the Ultimates would be able to beat the Nenetrix predators
>>136121453NTA but, the opening 2 episodes of AF are a joint two parter that's about as break neck as it get's, even forgetting that between shows he goes from violent sociopath to a totally harmless rogue doing dirty deals with dirty people but no morally greyer then Han Solo.By all accounts the fact he really fancies Gwen is the only reason he needed join the team.
>>136092936Kevin is like the opposite of normal guy, he get normal sex and hand holding on his birthday
>>136110197This is nice, there not much creepy art of Ben 10 artist?One will think with all the aliens forms, more people would do body horror
>>136107360I think that was used in the reboot though that may not be true
>>136122488Kinda the gang meets a version of Max from a parallel world who goes by his full name Maximilian, but that’s obviously not what you mean
>>136122346The original transformation sequences could get kinda gross iirc. Four Arms’s specifically grossed me out as a kid
>>136099320Imagine being a clone of Kevin and knowing almost everything in the universe. Gotta love Derrick J Wyatt's "word of god".
>>136121908He likely was innately attracted to her as well because of her being a life energy battery thanks to being an anodite.
>>136117814Rule 63 Kevin needs to be cuter. Psycho gremlin as a kid, hot but unkept emo punk teen.
>>136123802The sheer level of a conpsiracy servantis would have made while also being so incompetent will never stop amusing me.
>>136124565He wanted to keep Kevin close to Ben but had Kevin fuck around in space for another 4 years.
>>136124821Not to mention setting agreggor loose on the universe with knwoldge of where celestialsapiens live....the whole thing he wanted to avoid...
>>136124832An event that caused his sleeper agent to go crazy again and try to kill Ben.>All according to keikaku
>>136124868But kevin actively tried to kill everyone else before ben. And just wanted to absorb him, which makes hte same issue.
>>136125559Verdona had to be pretty cool with Max fucking a bunch of alien bitches.
>>136125657They werent married.
>>136126416Gwen's bimbo face was bothering me, so I made a small modification.
>>136048688This looks fucking stupid.
>>136126003That makes it less kinky.
>>136123802Look as far as I’m concerned if it’s not said in universe it’s not canon
>>136126445Looks like Kevin would die if he turned into that
>>136126425The dark green jacket looks so much better
>>136125559>He is the Most Interesting Man in the Galaxy
>>136126425Kevin's face lol.
>>136129560Yeah there’s something off about his face. I think his eyes are too big
>>136128640HOLY SHIT! HAL FAGS BTFO
>>136121082Or de emphasizing Ripjaws’s jaws. How stupid would you have to be to do that?
>>136130214I like the beard
>>136128640Who's the best alien for each ring?
>>136130214I don’t mind the whiskers it’s the stupid lips that cover up his jaws/teeth which should be his defining feature
>>136130924>green- willpowerEither four arms or diamondhead. I could also see feedback>yellow- fearAll anur aliens + toepick + ripjaws. >red- angerI don't even have to answer that>orange- greedIdk, jury rigg?>blue- hopeChromastone is litteral jesus so i'd go with him>indigo- compassionGravattack and terraspin are pretty chill dudes, i gues them>violet- loveI have no idea>black- deathI guess NRG since he kills people by existing, also whampire>white- lifeAny plant alien could fit
>>136131197I think this idea works better with the actual species instead of the transformations. Because besides Rath and Toepick none of the other aliens are really associated with an emotion
>>136131197>green- willpowerIt's Ben himself.
>>136131197What's the difference between each ring besides being tied to an emotion?
>>136125559Area 51 is like a brothel to meIs this what he says? My portuguese is really basic
>>136131997Most of them drive you crazy from their emotion.Not that writers remember that.
>>136131997I know that Red Lantern rings replace the users heart so they can’t take it off or they die
>>136087398>and this kids, is how I've met your mother.
>>136131646Now you feel stupid
What would be 10 aliens for a good kevin fusion?
>>136132298Tale as old as time. Boy meets girl, boy tries to kill girl and her cousin, boy gets trapped in a hell dimension, meets up with girl five years later, then they date
>>136133918Ew bro what the fuck
>>136135083ENTER! BEVIN 21
>>136135657>I’ve got all your powers plus my own! >I’m Bevin 21!
>>136133918I like hte canonbolt.
>>136046281Can he be in two places at once?
>>136136888Not even regular Ghostfreak can do that
>>136136888Kevin wouldn't have had Ditto's powers so no.
>>136137330That's who I'm talking about.Can he be in two or more places at once if his DNA is in multiple locations?
>>136137503I don't think that how it works, to me if Ghostfreak dies he'll comeback from a single left over DNA strand no matter where it is, so say if Ben killed Zs'Skayr he'd probably only then come back in Kevin or at least that's how I read it.
>>136137503I mean maybe. Yeah actually I don’t see why not; if an ectonurites consciousness is in every single strand or whatever then it makes sense that it would be able to make clones. Hell that’s probably why Zs’Skayr keeps coming back, there’s just one little strand left behind after every defeat
>>136133918Ha looks like Wildvine’s wearing a mushroom hat
>>136138016But at the same time?
>>136138584Yeah if you get two separate pieces. Kinda like how a severed starfish limb can grow a new body separate from the original it got cut off from
>>136138925There's a difference between a clone and two bodies with the same mind at the same time.
>>136139004I think I’ve had this conversation in a thread before so I’m just gone agree with you on that
So what did the citizens of Anur Transyl think of Zs’Skayr given he was High Ecto-Lord of Anur Transyl (whatever that means in the first place). Was he well liked or did people not really care about who was in charge, again, if that’s what High Ecto-Lord means. I don’t know why but this is something that’s been stuck in my head for a bit
>>136140049given how he brought back the Vladats and tried to mind controlled his own people I don't think he'd be all that popular, and I can't see his attempts to colonize other planet going down well with famously isolationist and xenophobic people of Anur Transyl outside his hardcore supporters
>>136140366and tried to mind *control* his own people
>>136140366Did people like the Omniverse Zs'skayr redesign? I thought it was awful. Why change his unique features in favor of a generic grim reaper look?
>>136140410My only issue is that they put his head right side up. The upside down head is his coolest feature
>>136140366> We can excuse the mind control and the attempt to resurrect a dangerous predatory species>But we draw the line at leaving the system! They’re far away for a reason!
>>136140410Well I don't think he was ever called Zs'skayr by anyone in cannon until Omniverse only ever Ghostfreak, so you could be forgiven for thinking he was a Omniverse original character I know I did until rewatched his debut.
>>136140049>High Ecto-Lord of Anur Transyl Ecto-Lord mean he's a lord of the ectonurites within the system, probably gaining that through being loved by other ectonurites and crowned as such and the High title probably, ears he was the strong/best of all the ecto-lords
>>136135083You would think with the rise of multiverse stuff in recent years a new Ben 10 series would would get green lit based off all that potential.
>>136140678TFW no phenomenally raciest phantom gf.
>>136141915Why would you want that? the multiverse was a tired gimmick long before shit like Rick and Morty drove it into the ground, ironically there's not a lot of potential in the idea outside one shot what ifs.
>>136140049I assume the Ectonurites of Anur Phaetos were the ones most loyal to him and where he holds most power, since that's his homeworld.Didn't seem like he held much influence in Anur Transyl, probably because of its multispecies populace. Which is consistent with his actions, wouldn't make sense for him to try and subjugate a planet he already ruled.
>>136142257>not a lot of potentialCrossovers.Story arcs that wouldn't work in just one universe.I can think of a lot of ways to actually use a multiverse.
>>136143411In Crossovers the multiverse is only there so you don't have to juggle the cannon of two different shows at the same time and that is really the best you can hope for.>Story arcs that wouldn't work in just one universe.In all honesty I just don't see it, the universe is big enough for any scenario you want and any 'What ifs' you may what do do not need tie into the main series.
>>136143165Man Julie was so wasted as character.
>>136144086as 'a' character.
>>136144086still liked her, but she could have been used better.
>>136144188You ask me they hardly even use her in the first place, like the only episodes heavily featuring her and Ship are the ones where he's been taken away from her and half the time it's like they forget Ship's even a thing.
>>136141973Shit sucks man
>>136146838Hey man I’m agreeing with you I want an Ectonurite gf too
>>136147457Bruh she's from anur, she'd be xenophobic as fuck
>>136147557We all have our flaws anon. I’d show her the stars and that other people aren’t that bad
>>136147557By Anur beauty standards, anons here are pretty cute
>>136142257They should’ve done more episodes exploring the other alternate Ben’s worlds
>>136141973>>136146838>>136147457Damn Ectonurites look like that?!
>>136147759But what you gonna do when one of these comes up and steals your girl.
>>136148884>Hey dude get away from my girlfr-aaAAAAHHHHH
>>136142257I wanted more of Mad Ben because he was hot as fuck
>>136149323No one does it better than Anur girls
>>136046281God, this shit pissed me off when I was a kid. Not the concept, I always thought the idea of one of his forms going rouge was cool but the fact that they use this to write off the coolest transformation. I kept waiting for, I dunno like a good Ectonurite to come along and offer his non-evil DNA for the Omnitrix so we could get some cool ghost shit again but it never happened.
>>136149789But does Mad Ben even need to be an alternate universe when you could just give Ben prime a new outfit and drop him on some kind of MadMax planet.
>>136149323>tfw your gf is a bunch of bandage tentacles strapped to a mask
>>136150211His personality is pretty different than Ben prime, he is more of a tsun with anger issues and a violent streak, it's not a simple change of clothes.
>>136150424Outside the australian accent the main difference between them is he's one of the evil Bens fighting Ben prime and that would probably have to change if you were to ever do a story with him as the protagonist.
>>136150611He gets a redemption arc since he was a tyrant in his universe.Although he would need another protag to balance out, someone more am I able as the main protag while he is the second protag.
>>136150640>am I able*Amicable
>>136150640Does he really need a redemption arc though? Don’t get me wrong I’m sure it could work but I’d rather see his rise to power up to him meeting Vilgax and Maltruant
>>136150640But I still don't see why you can't just do a madmax story arc in the main universe, where Ben spend half a season or so in null void thunderdome fighting all kinds of techno barbarian alien raiders, MadBen being stuck on earth misses the mark for me.
>>136150895He doesn't *need* to, but idk, he was kinda groomed to become the tyrant of his planet, he still is just a 16 year old, but I don't mind either way.A Mad Ben prequel? I suppose that could be fun, although not for a full cartoon but a mini-series.
>>136150917It's just that Mad Ben and normal Ben are pretty damn fucking different, from their personality, appearance, and especially backstory, Ben is not a story arc away from being Mad Ben, they are too different for that, that is why he is an alternate version of him.
>>136151066When you put it like that then yeah having him see the error of his way’s and trying to make up for it would be satisfying. Like imagine another multiverse Ben War and he shows up but in the good guys side, he could kinda fool the role of a Wolverine type character. About that other idea though yeah it works best for like a four or five episode miniseries, definitely not enough material for a whole ass show
>>136151100You don't need to turn Ben into MadBen to make it work, I just think 'Kickin hawk of the north star' would be better served as an idea in the main universe where you can have Ben and the gang go back and forth between that and the status quo whenever you feel like it, instead of wasting it on a one shot What if.
>>136151385NTA but I think the idea works better for just a simple what if since it would give the people in charge more creative freedom to do whatever since they don’t have to worry about continuity, more just the fine details of canon. And even then they can play around with things, like Mad Ben’s Azmuth actually making the Omnitrix as a weapon cause why else would the thing have spikes on it?
>>136150160>the coolest transformation.That's not Upgrade.
>>136153015Skurd. I genuinely love him, great guy, great abilities
>>136153060I thought he was a bit annoying personally.
>>136153074I think that was by design but I never really had a problem with him. His gimmick though I could go without, the DNA mixing thing along with the armors from the reboot are my last favorite omnitrix gimmicks
>>136153106Nah, using alien parts is pretty cool, but I wish this could let Ben fight some guys in his normal form while the Omnitrix is timed out
>>136153217But that really should've been Kevin thing post OS instead of whatever the hell they were thinking with the absorbing man thing they gave him.
>>136152953>upgrades electricity based technology and some aliens>can only die if completely obliterated>can shoot a laser beam>that's it
>>136154254I think you just accidentally proved yourself wrong that sounds badass. Also you forgot that he can freely shapeshift
>>136154251Would have overlapped too much.
>>136154625Ben had a whole new set of aliens in Alien force with only Diamondhead and Fourarms making regular reappearances later on, you just keep Kevin to the OS alien and then there's hardly any overlap between the 2 of them.
>>136154839Having two guys with shapeshifting alien gimmicks would be a bit much though
>>136154961You can't have too much of a good thing, and Ben isn't a shapeshifter he's a henshin Hero.