Honest to God, how do you beat this guy?
Shoot him. Rick mentioned he had a retcon range.
A muzzleProblem solved
>>134228511With the element of surprise
>>134228511What’s his powers
I mean, do you even need to? Something that really bothered me in this episode is how they introduce this character, he retcons everything and they never resolve it. Plenty of the people who were introduced in this episode have more than enough potential to defeat him, flashback could probably go back in time and defeat him before he ever become this powerful, the twist guy could win with a simple twist, any of the narrative powers could probably counter his since technically he is pretty weak because he does need to speak things first to actually happen but they never even had the opportunity to use their powers.This entire beat should have been cut out of the episode or the episode actually focused around him but instead of a superhero he would be just a normal villain Rick defeats in a convoluted way but they had to add another capeshit movie knock off reference in that fucking show, they just had to. Shit just weak, yo, it soiled the good name of the story train episode.
>>134228555He can retcon reality by speaking the retcon into existence. He killed a character by saying, "you have always been able to be killed by coffee" then throwing coffee on her for example.
>>134228511His powers can only work when he can talk and possibly write, if you remove his ability to do both he's powerless.
>>134228511Shoot him in the mouthHe also can’t retcon past feed of sports coverage because “sports are the opposite of story”
>>134228511By complications, one could use science in a non-rick way, basically utilizing a device capable of rendering rhett's words as just empty and lacking, to say.
>>134228511The c stands for cool I wouldn't stand a chance.:^/
>>134228597What if he can monologue?
>>134228589Okay sounds like I just need to stop him before he talks
Wouldn't it just require him getting trapped within his own retcons? Like forgetting the rules/standard he set, then working it against him
With his arch nemesis, the one who caught him in the first placeRex patrizion He introduces him defining his setting and motivation
>>134228511There are plenty of ways to kill someone before they could speak and he needs to say a whole sentence. Just interrupt him.
>>134229766His name's not Mono Logan
>>134228536>>134228553This. It seems he needs to vocally activate his ability to have it take effect so get the drop on him and blitz him. Hope he is cocky and doesn't retcon so he automatically knows all threats to him before they approach or some shit. If it gets to that then you need to pull some Jojo esque shenanigans to outmaneuver him
>>134229925I suspect you could also drown him out. I suspect his power doesn't just require him to speak, but also to be heard by the audience. Airhorns, loud noises. Perhaps some sort of "Annie-May Muse Video" played a Linken Park Song to capture him.
>>134228511Just erase the concept of speech, check mate.
>>134228589How is that different from just making the thing happen, unless the past also changes and the character loses memory?
>>134228622That's a good point. Creative solution, anon.
>>134231963the past and reality also changes.
>>134229878I think Plot Amor stands a good chance as well. Not matter how much Ret Caan retcons, Plot Amor will find some way to bounce right back.
>>134228511Make him fight batkek. Nothing beats plot armor
>>134228511Why does everyone assume, he has never retconned himself immortal?
>>134228536"i never had a retcon range"
>>134228622>“sports are the opposite of story”Could somebody explain this joke?
>>134228589Sounds like meh tier reality warping
>>134232738I guess because sports are real
>>134232738Loser soi writers can't appreciate sportskino
>>134228511Some kind of infinite retcon loop, like Donna Troy or the current state of DC's weird multiverse.
>>134228585>it soiled the good name of the story train episode.It should've just stayed a one-off. I don't think anyone cared that much for Story Lord.
>>134232738You can't retcon sports stories and data
>>134228585>Plenty of the people who were introduced in this episode have more than enough potential to defeat himHe could easy just give all their powers an obvious weakness, or get rid of them all together.>''You 5 have always been figments of my imagination"
Bobobo would just ignore his haxs.
>>134228511he is an user of causality manipulation (of the speaking variant). His words become reality regardless of the past, present, and future. Powerful and weak at the same time. Because he needs to precisely pick his target and then speak something that can overcome it. So you basically have to attack him before he can see it coming (although it would be difficult if not impossible once you are within his vision range)
>>134228511Higher level of law manipulation. Ret Con manipulates the laws of reality and he has an overall range to his abilities so you simply overwrite or restrict his own without his knowledge or outside his range.
>>134228536Considering he retconned the universe at one point, I think that "range" only applied while he was in his cell.
>>134233374That'd be great to watch.
>>134233240Sure you can after you find out someone was on roids
>>134232191>>134233173>>134233374That guy exists in a fourth wall dimension. They legit made Rick one of the most broken characters in fiction in this episode.
>>134228511trick him into retconning himself out of existence
>>134232525then you couldn't ever be sure if someone was within it or not.
Retroactive connie tinuity.>You never existed>She pops back the next day>But I said you never existed!>This is a new episode so I'm back
>>134228511He can only retcon something after it's been established. Meaning he can't do preventative retcons. So there's a small window of time between establishing a threat against him and his reply. A simple gun will do the trick, providing you can introduce the gun as a threat and then shoot him fast enough before he can comment on it.
>>134228511> Brett Caan can only use his powers by talking, and claiming something is trueHow about I uso no uso your shit?
>>134232738Fat loser soiboy who seethed that people who put in time and effort to train their bodies and learn how to play a game with rules that weren't roll dice and imagine actually were outgoing and made friends with people in school decided that he had to shit on them.
>>134228511That guy is just Mr. Mxyzptlk but serious
>stop time>shove a pinecone up his ass>resume time>he can't speak with a pinecone up his ass>shoot him>get drunk
>>134228511Exist outside of time so ge can't make it so you were always something or other
>>134228511Sneak attack or prevent him from speaking
>>134232738Contrary to what the spaghetti-armed ironic losers itt are seething about, “sports is the opposite of story” used to be a popular phrase people used to mock sports tv channels, that for some reason fell out of use nowadays.
>>134233489That's just the context, you can't undo the data of a game, when it happened and where.
>>134236176“You were always instakilled by your own atoms”
>>134228511so he's mr. mxzplytl from superman. just trick him into saying he has never had retcon powers
>>134234844A. That doesn't mean anythingB. Hyōsube disables haxs and Bobobo has higher levels of plot manipulation
>>134237888No limits fallacy, Bobobo was killed off by brute force in his own show and had to be resurrected
>>134238041That's because Don Patch it's the real protagonist
>>134238135“But…I was always the real protagonist.”
>>134237888>A. That doesn't mean anythingHe can't break the fourth wall, he sure as fuck couldn't live in that meta dimension. No one in Bleach is Rick and Morty level.
>>134232738I always assumed it’s because sports are an event, not a narrative. You are just watching the events laid out before you in a Very direct and impersonal way. You can absolutely make a sports story but you don’t have to understand what’s happening in sports like you do a story. You could walk into the middle of a sports game and ask “who’s winning?” And they’d just tell you the score and who has the ball, but if you went into a movie halfway through, assuming it’s actually got a concrete story, you’d have to do quite a bit more explaining to catch them up. I didn’t think it was malicious. It’s just that sports can be enjoyed on a very base level while a narrative has to jump through all sorts of hoops to legitimize it’s existence.
>>134238041You know I'd try to explain how bullshit bobobo is but I'd be here all day so instead here's a YouTube video on some bullshit bobobo can do, put it on times 2 speed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooNij0P81-g
I think of all the self referential Connie Tinyity error would have the best shot at beating him. Sure he can retcon anything he speaks into existence, but continuity means nothing because Connie can make disrupt continuity entirely. All she has to do is make it so the narrative forgets that her pre established weakness to coffee for a scene so she can wipe it off.That being said it was smart of Rhett to kill her first because she could most easily counter him if she’s ready for it.
>>134238298That’s nice.Here’s Bobobo being permanently killed by a sharp stick.
>>134238351The thing people have to remember about Bobobo is that toon force isn’t an automatic win button. Because sure he can hurt someone very badly as long as it’s funny, but he can also be hurt or die if it’s also funny or dramatic for it to happen. He’s not invincible or immortal. That being said he’s hard to get rid of for good, as in most of the cases where he’s died (which have happened more than once) he was either revived or clawed his way out of hell with his own bare hands. Because in Sawaii’s own words the bobobo characters refuse to die because they all want attention and they can’t get people to laugh at their gags if they’re dead.
>>134238351Because his brother knew his weakness
>>134228511You just trick him into saying he never existed, or he never had any powers. What is this, your first day on the job?
>>134238351That was by Bibibi who is considered one of the strongest characters in the verse. He has massive hax nullification, him beating Bobobo doesn't mean anything since Rhett Caan hasn't shown anywhere near the amount of power null as Bibibi.Also Bobobo obtained a new form after this with Landmine Bobobo which proceeded to casually stomp Bibibi.
>>134228511Fight fire with fire.
>>134238520Rhett Conn nullified the entire 4th wall. And Bobobo needed to be resurrected by his friends after just being stabbed. He KNEELS and BEGS FOR HIS LIFE.“I’ve always had hax nullification.”“I stabbed Bobobo with a pointy stick 35 minutes ago.”
>>134228511gaslight him into loving youso just be a girl I guess
>>134238437I mean technically bobobo can't be properly killed unless you destroy his Hair Ball, but like yeah he can die, but it's really really hard.
>>134228511any attack that works faster than the speed of sound should workhonestly your powers being voice activated is a huge weakness that is easy to exploit
>>134232050Retcons create plot holes. So Plot Hole will just multiply if he tries to erase her.
>>134229777so the same way wanda killed blackbolt
He cant retconn what doesnt exist/is defined
>>134228585I liked how all those characters suddenly became idiots when Retcon Man escaped.
>>134238718Also, changing reality on a whim isn't a fucking retcon. The writers thought they were being clever with their little Dr Manhattan joke so no one paid attention.
>>134238587Like stated earlier Bobobo resists power null and most hax, but even if we're extremely generous with his abilities Rhett Caan would still need alot of prep to properly kill bobobo while bobobo could just one shot him in said time.
>>134238764They have always been idiots
>>134238861Rick's multiverse is way above Bobobo's.
>>134238885What does that even mean
>>134238885A. Not really unless you believe in 7-D rick which doesn't make sense in canon especially with the later seasonsB. Even if you buy that Rhett's abilities being at such levels he still needs a heavy amount of setup to give himself the win. Bobobo is initially way faster then him, has way better passive hax and is really hard to properly kill. Bobobo could just use his abilities or copy Rhett's abilities to kill him before he can properly disable all of Bobobo advantages and figure out how to actually kill him.
>>134238957It contains multiple infinities.>>134239044>Not really unless you believe in 7-D rick which doesn't make sense in canon especially with the later seasonsThat meta dimension itself exists on a level of existence above to most fiction pieces, Bobobo is one of them.>Bobobo is initially way faster then himHeadcanon?
>>134239081>contains multiple infinitiesBobobo can create infinite worlds with infinite landmines on them
>>134238186>He can't break the fourth wall, he sure as fuck couldn't live in that meta dimension.rick and morty are biological humans, they can live in that dimension just fine, so stop making up bullshit
>>134239204Steve from modded Minecraft also can do that
>>134239081>That meta dimension itself exists on a level of existence above to most fiction pieces, Bobobo is one of them.4th wall stuff isn't really that special, like bobobo has 4th nonsense as well, it's really not that special.>Headcanon?Even early series Bobobo can get massively faster than light from move Pluto across the solar system, later in the series Bobobo does stuff like fly so fast he goes back in time, or move in super dimensional or scale above people like donpatch who became an eternal side story or scale above majin time which is it's own separate concept above normal time and space, which should at least give him infinite speed.
>>134228511>give him a piece of paper and tell him to read what it says on it>it says "I was never born">he just unexists himself
>>134238861Rhett literally jusy needs a pointy stick>b-b-but hax!Bibibi didn’t use any hax. He just stabbed Bobobo with a stick and he died.“You always had a stick impaled through your abdomen.”Game over, bo-bo-bo-BITCH.
>>134239712please stop reminding me that MoM existsWhy does everything that abbreviates to Mom suck shit btw?
>>134239667That stick was used to hit Bobobo's hair ball, the source of Bobobo's life force that exists separately from Bobobo's soul, mind and physical body. The only reason Bibibi could destroy it was because he both knew about it and was capable of destroying it.Even if Rhett could counter it he would first need to learn about it, gain the ability to destroy it or make it not exist and only than kill Bobobo which would all presumable happen after Bobobo remanifesting after Rhett tried to kill him in a "conventional manner". This gets to the same problem as before where Bobobo would just kill Rhett before he can properly disable all of Bobobo's advantages.
>>134237672>I've always been able to move in stopped time
>>134238597>I've always been gay
Take away his voice, attack him before he can speak, trapping him in sports, being a reality warper with greater range
>>134228585>the twist guy could win with a simple twist,The twist is that none of his retcons are canon.
>>134228511Get reality warper. Marvel shits one out every week.
>>134228585>resolveIt's a comedy.
>>134228511>>134228536I'm guessing it's a vocal range, his retcons probably only work if someone else hears him. After all, if you retcon something without telling anyone, then that's just your headcanon.
>>134240763what can he do?
>>134232738The writers don't like sports.
>>134241114As a real sports and blaseball fan, this shit is fun
>>134241114I don't get it.
>>134240978>Rhett Caan's nemesis, Heda Canon, with the power to completely ignore the established narrative in favor of her own ideas. She can't affect anything externally with her powers, but she's also completely immune to anything going on around her.
>>134228511Rick and Morty is so good at making impactful and memorable characters. The writers are better than most professionals. This ep *chef kiss*
>>134228585>taking Rick & Morty plots this seriously especially one where the whole point is they are making fun of cliché writing crutches and overdoing meta humor
>>134238241Very well written and reasoned, anon
This felt like a Season 2 episode until the Dan Harmon self-insert came in and ruined everything.
>>134228511By not caring
>>134242835>Dan Harmon self-insertI'll admit I'm not in a charitable state of mind when watching this show but when I saw this I immediately within seconds declared we have reached the absolute lowest point of terrible things with that. They consciously drew him. And then they proceeded to give us this lecture on storytelling that I just won't fucking go back and actually listen to to comprehend properly.This is just rock bottom. I just cannot imagine anything worse than what happened this episode. It's worse than Battlestar's "It was literally God all along".
There was literally no difference between the retcon powers and the continuity error powers.
>>134245417She literally could have used her powers to just put him back in his cell. Even Mr.Twist could have used a smash cut grenade to cut to him being trapped back in his cell ffs
>>134242069>one where the whole point is they are making fun of cliché writing crutches and overdoing meta humorBy doing cliché writing crutches and overdoing meta humour? Saying "this is dumb/bad writing" while still doing it is just ass-covering at best.
>I mean it's funny when I do a little nod to the viewersHow did an episode so obsessed with self-awareness manage to have a line so lacking in it? Rick's fourth wall breaks are always the most cringey bullshit.
>>134228511His powers are activated by speech, have a range and need to be completely stated before they take effect. So you can either attack when he's not awake or expecting it, avoid being visible, and try to make your plans complicated to describe in words, attack out of range, attack with poison. Drain all the air out of the room so that he has no medium to speak in. Punch him in the throat. Muzzle his mouth or try to knock out his teeth or cut his tongue so he has trouble pronouncing words. He's also very likely to be affected by his own powers, so tricking him into saying something like "i've always wanted to kill myself" or "i never learned english-" and stopping him from speaking. You have to fight dirty but It's not totally impossible if you're committed and he lets his guard down a little.
>>134228511Well considering he has to speak his retcons into existence, just simply stop him from talking.