previous thread >>134183836Power Drain into assimilation edition."Oh, Sakura, honey. Did you think nullifying the living lightning was wise?Even tho your magic surpasses mine, i cannot let you kill Mary Marvel.You shall now be Mary Marvel from now on.Consider it a lil "draw" between us, hehehe.Don't worry, i swear only to use your body for Justice, promise."
>>134217944Sakura is for Blade. Your powers aren't remotely comparable
Dio vs Makima
>>134217991Blade powerdrains Sakura, and turns into a lil japanese girl.
Well, continuing on from the last thread.Is there anything stopping Mary Marvel from legit taking over someone's body permanently?
>>134217944>Bro Sakura is multiversal and infinite speed bro she beats capeshit >Nah bro Mary Marvel is a total powerhouse she scales to Billy and Superman trust me bro when did death battle become not a clown show, not an entire circus, not an entire carnival, but the clown college?
>>134217944>I'll use the shield to--Shattered>I'll use the sword to--Does nothing>I'll use the dark to--Mary travels to the rock of eternity, exiting the void.>I'll use the maze to--Mary travels to the rock of eternity, then uses the wisdom of Athena to find the pocket dimension and CHUMININ SakuraNO CHANCE
>>134218115To be honest, i just kept up with it because i am horny about the idea of victory thru twinning the foe, specially a young japanese teenager into this bombshell>>134218078
>>134218129>shatteredresist>swordcuts mary marvel in two>dark nullifies mary's magic>maze Maze expands until mary stops trying to fly over it, like in the show.Her only wincon is Sakura being fooled into draining her magic, no?Come on, explain all the details for me <3
"Just who was that Kinomoto girl? I feel amazing!Her body had tons of magic within!I think i will keep onto it for a while longer. Its not like she can really complain whenever she is at right now."
>>134218129The Shield can only be broken by The Sword and The Sword has infinite sharpeners and can cut through anything
>>134218129That's not how The Maze works, it's a sapient adapting infinite labyrinth. You also can't fly out.
>>134218249>>134218309(Just ignore him, if he wanted to argue, he'd actually post evidence for the living lightning permanently taking someone's body unwillingly so its an actual wincon.)---"That was kinda easy for a fight, the cards pretty much did everything for me.But, after absorbing that woman's power...why do i feel like wearing a skinthight latex bodysuit...?"
>>134218334Tomoyo has the costumes ready
>>134218393Fanart of Sakura wearing this >>134218078 coming up. <3
>>134217944Wait where does this match up announced?Where does Mary gaining power drain power? Ain't she just super strength and electric magic like Billy?Would Mary got corrupted on the battle?
>>134218419In the previous thread, someone claimed Mary would beat Sakura Kinomoto.Even tho no one said that she'd drain the living lightning, whoever brought Mary up claimed that Sakura would be turned into Mary Marvel instantly, which is a victory thu assimilation/body snatching/twinning.Since i found it hot, i made it the new OP image topic.In short, It was not announced.Sakura kinomoto would be the one draining Mary's power and be turned into Mary Marvel as a wincon. (even tho she resists possession and enemy magic in general.)and no.
>>134218309Doesn't matter. She can fly out of any dimensional trap by travelling to the Rock of Eternity.>>134218297The Shield can be busted by sufficiently powerful magic and guess what Mary is?>>134218483>Resists possessionWhen?
>>134218546Mary won't have any magic on her, dumb dumb.Sakura's own magic negates other magic, which is what the living lightning, of course, as long as she is stronger, which would be the case in your wincon of her becoming Mary Marvel.
>>134218562lightning is*Also you have not shown evidence of the living lighting controlling unwilling hosts permanently
>>134218562>Negates magicShe needs to use the dark for that, and Mary has an easy way to get out of it. >>1342185851. Not the living lightning.2. See pic related. It also works on dolls, somehow.
>>134218115namefag and the fag reposting the same picture every thread have gotten into an argument over a match up no one but them wants. Hopefully one will get butt hurt enough to leave permanently, like two viruses fighting for control of the same senile coma patient.
>>134218653Is that even still canon?
>>134218653She passively negates magic being used on her by being a magic user too.Examples include her ignoring Eriol (Clow's reincarnation)'s city wide sleep spell.and ignores a AoE Freeze spell just by her own magic. Passively since she is not activating anything.Sorry for the delay, 4chan thinks the clip links i shared were spam
>>134218732also the doll is a thing without a will
>>134218732>She no-sold a sleep sleep and an ice attack>Therefore, she can counter Mary flying into her at a gazillion times the speed of lightYou at least had something with the night.>>134218683Yes.
Post fights that aren’t ryona
>>134218741When was the last time he did it? Because golden age Fawcett Billy is literally his own guy separated from the mainline universe
>>134218741Eriol is Clow, the magician that can destroy and recreate the CLAMPverse, which includes magic knight rayearth, Tsubasa Chronicle, Sakura Card Captor, crossovers, and infinite timelines.All of his magic scales.Another thing, there is no evidence that a Marvel could just borrow someone's body permanently.Anyways, lets just agree to disagree. DC has scaling up the ass that can maybe make Mary stronger or maybe faster by some stupid "my immessurable speed is bigger than your immessurable speed" feat.>>134218808>>134218653This isn't really proof that Marvel can just take over someone unwilling permanently, in character or well, a wincon. Since it "captures" Sakura rather than killing her.Anyways, consider this my concession gift. I'll finish it later on.(The rest's feedback would be welcome)
Oh god the finale is gonna be Ulquiora vs Itachi I feel it in my bones. It's the biggest Normie match up that isn't capes.
>>134218483my dumb ass thought you were talking about Naruto's Sakura
>>134218808>>134218741>>134218653>>134218925Actually it’s canon that the Wizard went unchanged by the Crisis meaning the magic lightning is the same
>Next time on Death Battle
>>134220057If the finale has KH it would be Sheev vs Xehanort.
>>134217944>No sells Mary Marvels possession with the power of God and the warriors soul MARY MARVEL CANNOT HANDLE THE SOUL OF THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR
>>134220209>The only universe that beats DC in pure bullshitBased and WWEpilled
>>134220057Roxas vs Roxxas when?
Kid Icarus is getting a port, Pit vs Kratos when
Asked in the last thread but will ask againHey /co/, it's SurveyAnon. Question, dince the finale is coming right after Deku vs Asta and I'll make the Season's Survey, do you guys prefer me to publish the Survey link on the finale's early release day, or on the official day?
>>134220057At last the LGBT matchup twitter deserves.
>>134220503Roxas is for Jin (XB2)
Is Mary Marvel VS Sakura or Sailor Moon something anyone would genuinely want, or entirely an invention of Capeworld Comics/these threads?
>>134220952The latter, CCS has at least four other match ups people would rather prefer
>>134220663Early release day
>>134221004I imagine it'll be Moon VS Seiya, Madoka, or Sakura, and maybe Sakura VS Yugi if it isn't Ash VS Yugi somehow. Mary Marvel is for...nobody, honestly. Any match I could think of for her that fits applies to Supergirl or Power Girl already.
So consensus is Asta stat stomps and there is not swank potential to throw things off since it’s an anime fight. SWANK potential IPs: DC, Jojo, Marvel, LoTR, Archie, persona, etcWhat is the finale? I hope it isn’t gru vs megamind
>>134221337Nah Gru vs Megamind isn't season finale tier.
>>134221383>gru vs megamind isn't season finale tierBro, Gru's last movie was a few months ago and made almost a billion dollars at the box office, Gru/Megamind would absolutely draw finale numbers
>>134221054Body possession and twinning.Aka. I just find it hot to have a fight end in the living lightning puppetting a young japanese girl's body, completely changing her appearance to Mary Marvel and it actually being a victory.(Tho whoever suggested the matchup never explained how it would be a wincon since its not permanent and Sakura would go back to normal as soon as Mary Marvel returned to Mary Batson. Can the LL keep hold of a unwilling host forever?)
>>134218925let us know when its done, its cute
>>134220209The tribal chief wishes all of /co/ a Happy Thanksgving
I want this for the ryona I guessKinda sad we got 2 back to back ryonakinos only to not have anything for the rest of the season. And theres no way the finale has a female character so we'll have to hope for next season ryonabros
Hey Otto whens your prediction for Deku vs Asta going up?
>>134221337>whats the finaleJiren vs Attrocitus…..nah just kidding. Its probably Giorno vs Joker.
>>134223063Left are the MC team’s dragon mounts from the Tameraire books. It’s an alt-history napoleonic war with the mix-up of there being a new dimension of warfare with dragon and their riders giving everyone an aerial corps. Right are the dragonets of destiny from Wings of Fire which are pre-teen/YA novels in the vein of Warrior cats where these prophecy dragons work to end a dragon war of succession which spirals out into a world war.
>>134223716Otto is a retard so he'll insist Giorno was "For him"
>>134221064Yugi vs Blank from NGNL
Well of course Asta is gonna win. Deku's power is similar to but not comparable to superman. And as we all know superman has no limits!
>>134220057But I don't wanna see funny script writer guy put Sora up against Lebron James from Space Jam
>>134218741That's not a spell, so no
>>134217944>we still haven't gotten the perfect thanksgiving episode
This guy, IMO, still holds the record of "Most nerfed character during production." There's gotta be a better way to put that, but whateverIn the actual game>Falls from a great height>Kills a bunch of monsters>Survives having his torso being ripped openIn the actual planned scope of the game>Does all that, plus>Killing a skyscraper sized monster>Getting his hands on a BRAP gun and arm cannon plus some other stuff>Fighting through a warzone full of cyborg corpses with arm cannons and 8+ foot tall, grenade launcher wielding mini-mechs operated by supergeniuses>Barging into the DMT dimension and fighting telepaths who have ascended past consciousness.
>>134225475I think the crew is too delicate to do it now. Season 1 or 2, maybe. Nowadays, I'm not even sure we'd get Combo vs Balrog if it weren't for Torrian pushing for it.
>>134224793>SupermanJobs to the Hulkster
>>134223397How is that ryona
>>134220005"actually" that would be a different Wizard because Fawcett Billy is not the same as current Billy
>>134226766Wizard ain’t affected by Crisis’ since only one rock of eternity exists in the multiverse
>>134226868Provably untrue as there are multiple CM's
>>134226938But only one WizardThe rock of eternity is at the core of the multiverse, there’s only one
>>134217944I guess this is the second somewhat lewd femsub ryona-ish "Defeat", that had come up from these threads after Athena being brainwashed by M.Bison.Since that technically is temporary and reliant on Bison being alive, so Athena could go back to normal, just like Sakura Kinomoto could go back to normal once Mary Marvel leaves her body. (Again, magic and possession resistance, but that's me being a broken record at this point)
>>134226999You're wrong. The Rock of Eternity is a place in time. It's pointless to argue in circles.
Why is the thread so slow today
>>134227375probably because we are waiting on a shitty matchup no one asked for and the OP is about some salty DC fanboy coming with straight up possession ryona as a wincon so an anime girl does not outhax his waifu shazam herald.
>>134227375Because the OP image doesn't use the DB template. It's that simple.
>>134227375nobody cares about the upcoming matchup and we didn't have much momentum to start with
>>134227395I don't even know if he cares
>>134218653This worked so well on Apocalypse didn't it...
>>134227409does that have a big impact?
>>134227409is there a online page for that? dooing it on photoshop is a hassle
>>134227467could always use something rudimentary like powerpoint. you can find png's of the template online
>>134227466cowboy vs indian match ups go
>>134227487who could fight Nightwolf and Erron Black?
>>134227566I am such a dumbass. Here we go.
>>134225515Joe Rogan would've loved that last part
>Lich King vs SauronI would say it was unfair that they didn't include all of the lich kings abilities while also ignoring some stuff on how Frostmourne works but I doubt it would have made a difference.
>>134218129Sakura uses The Nothing. Mary instantly fucking dies, GG.Or hell, she just exists in her general direction and Mary dies as reality collapses from the strain. That's the problem with being stronger than Clow Reed - reality literally can't handle your existence.
>>134218741>Therefore, she can counter Mary flying into her at a gazillion times the speed of lightDoesn't need to. Literally all of her cards are sapient and will automatically protect her if they think she's under threat, even if she isn't aware of it. So Mary flies headfirst into Shield and turns into mist.
Imagine if they did specifically CoM Sora vs Sakura just to fuck with us.
>>134220821Who?No, Roxas is for Roxxas, clearly. Why else would they be the only two with the same name?It's meant to be
>>134227697The Nothing was fused with The Nameless Card and became The Hope in the second movie
>>134221064Mary Marvel is for Suprema
>>134227697>>134227716>>134227761 (Composite Sakura should have it, Sakura has other cards like the erase or just silence too prevent batson from even saying Shazam after time looping, traveling, mind haxing, time stopping or just putting her to sleep.Sakura has all the hax she could want because the series introduces a new power every episode.)We know Sakura wins.Her immessurable speed, sheer amount of hax and scaling make her too much for mary.The only reason i made that death battle template and the thread itself is the hot as fuck possibility of Sakura's body being transformed into mary marvel.
>>134225475Oy vey, representing injuns is racist, don't you know chud
>>134226045>jobs to the Rock>Rock BEGGING for SuperCHAD's attentionBack to your dustbin, has-been
>>134220209Vince McMahon moves his operation to Gotham. What happens?
>>134227834>bent the knee to the Rainbow BrigadeWhere Superman says Truth, Justice and the Amer- errr. I mean Better Tomorrow, Hulk Hogan says Freedom, Prayers, Vitamins and 24 inch pythons brother
so what's up with the Kyle Rayner vs Simon the Digger DB? i saw the song for it but i can't find it anywhere, did it get canceled or something? the idea seems really cool
>>134227886>caught saying nigger on a hot mikeYou sure you want to talk about bent knees?Your's are actually real, brother
>>134227466Not everyone online is a burger
>>134227918It’s most of the death battle group
>>134227913>wields the N-word without a pass>So iconic, he uncanceled himself>God is his tag team partnerNobody does it like the Hulkster BROTHER
>"The thousands of Hulkamaniacs on the outside pushing the walls down, barnstorming the doors, just begging me to slam Superman through the Source Wall"
>>134227443They gimped Black Adam by sticking to the Egyptian pantheon version and not the version with the traditional SHAZAM powerset.There would be no energy to drain. There's no living lightning for classic Marvels. Mr. Mind with the ability to absorb all the energy in the universe couldn't drain Captain Marvel because his powers were protected by the Rock of Eternity.Saying that Apoc would absorb the living lightning is in and of itself retarded. Remember that big story arc where he had to use the Living Monolith to absorb energy for him?
>>134228094>and not the version with the traditional SHAZAM powerset.Hasn’t been always had the Egyptian godsThough Egyptian gods should really stomp Greek ones
>>134227697Won't work. Power of Zeus grants protection from any form of death and Mary survived beyond the bounds of the Rock of Eternity where nothing could survive.Nothing Sakura can do can hurt Mary.
>>134227716>The cards move faster than someone that moves galaxies by touching individual planets and starsCool headcannon bro.Sakura gets slapped like the little hoe-ee she is.
>>134228094Living Lighting is still lighting and has been absorbed before
>>134228134She literally failed to do that you non reader
>>134227971>without a pass Booker T gave it to him.
>>134228108No. Originally he had the same Solomon Hercules Atlas Zeus Achilles Mercury as the other Marvels.>>134228141>FailedLMFAO what?>>134228135Living lightning doesn't exist for classic Marvels.They get hit by a Zeus bolt, or any sufficiently powerful source of lightning, and they transform.There's no lightning inside them.
>>134228134Immessurable speed > whatever you think times ftl mary is.Also again, she failed to do that and Sakura's range can reach the rock of eternity and erase it as well.Also, you did not adress Sakura's other wincons and incaps i cited before.Just embrace the ryona and say that her only wincon is the body snatching
>>134228151>Hooker TKneels to Hollywood Hogan and the NWO
>>134228094Why would they use a version of the character that doesn't exist anymore? It would be wrong, like how they used HoM Wanda
>>134220209>Scales to Hogan who can crack continents casually>Can swim across the Atlantic ocean and run all seven continents in mere seconds, to the point it was compared to being Omnipresent>Can teleport across countries>Jumped off Mount Everest, ran over by 20 lawnmowers, and trampled by twenty african elephants, coming out unharmed>Tanks Orbital Reentry>Surivived a bite by a King Cobra, only made him stronger>Survived the Devil tearing at his soul>When Angry, can empower himself with the abilities of the famous warriors of the past>Power scales with his Self Belief, so as long as he believes he is invincible, he is invincible>Can astral project himself into another universe>Revives himself by ripping the pearly gates of Heaven open with his bare handsI FUCKING KNEEL
>>134228158So, again, how do you even argue Sakura would be turned intoo mary if its just normal lightning?If its turning someone into someone else, its magic.
>>134228167>Immeasurable speed because she can go to a hug box room outside time and spaceRock of Eternity is that but better in every way.>>134228178Even at centuries the feat is way, way, way beyond any speed Sakura has.
>>134228203No it’s not what speed would that even be
>>134217944What are the combat applicable implications of being able to do this to somebody?
>>134228198>>134228203also again, not a permanent victory. Sakura would turn back to normal as soon as marver returned to Batsonalso i find it hilarious how every single absurd speed speed is safeguarded and accepted by dc fans as long as its dc, but instantly go and try to debunk clear cut immessurable speed for ANY other verse.If you want to be a bitch, then lemme just use any of Superman's and Shazam's low ends where tthey need help pulling planets and cry trying to hold back a small black hole.
>>134228151>Got called every slur in the playbook except a coon by Triple H and got Pedigreed at WrestleMania >Mogged by Austin in an IGA grocery store>Seething while the Hulkster returned to a standing Ovation to the WWEHOOKER T
Otto's gonna make a blog post on this ain't he?
could booster gold beat Iron man? probably not right?
>>134228264If they use their most recent Iron Man vs their Booster Gold then Tony just vaporizes him with no difficulty.
>>134228217Look at the page you posted.They check all the planets in a galaxy in seconds and then fly to Messier 3, 33,920 light years away.Sakura is on the level where her fucking flying staff is considered fast for her. Where skating is considered fast for her.Both can jump to a place outside time and space and by that standard are "immeasurable" in speed. But while Sakura is in her pocket dimensions, she's "Hoo-ee, skating is so fast!" fast while Mary is "33,920 light years" fast.>>134228224Quasar EZ PZs most characters that aren't green lantern broken.Champion of the Universe, anon.
>>134228249>also i find it hilarious how every single absurd speed speed is safeguarded and accepted by dc fans as long as its dc, but instantly go and try to debunk clear cut immessurable speed for ANY other verse.Just because she moved in a place that lacked space and time doesn’t mean a turtle will be unable to move there
>>134228122>Won't work. Power of Zeus grants protection from any form of death Source on this? Because last I checked, this isn't remotely true. The Nothing also doesn't count as "death", since its mechanics explicitly sidestep having to actually kill the victim. >>134228134All of the cards are automatic, it LITERALLY does not matter how fast Mary is.
>>134228289>All of the cards are automatic, it LITERALLY does not matter how fast Mary is.So is my automatic light switch but I have a feeling the right person can blitz it
>>134228260If he wriittes a fanfic about how Mary takes over her body and masturbates softly as Sakura is still aware, i am fine with it.
>>134227761True, but a theoretical composite Sakura would still have it. Not that she needs it, really.
>>134228283>>134228249without space and time there is no point A and point B to distinguish movement. it's only "immeasurable" in the sense that movement can't happen. got nothing to do with speed IMO, maybe some quirky form of dimensionality. but if the "place" in question does have things like distance and linear time then it's not really devoid of space and time
>>134228260Probably. >>134228298Please make a coherent non-shitposting argument if you want to be taken seriously, tripfag.
>>134228281>>134228283This can be said of any immessurable feat in dc.Again, Sakura just has the hax to deal with Mary in many ways.>>134228289Shazam has been beaten to death before, so i dunno what you are ttalking about.>>134228311This
>>134228281I don't know what GL could do about that quantum fuckery. You'd need to make the assumption that he can counter it at all
>>134228325I guess no one is FTL in fiction then.Moving any distance in no time is infinite speed in most if not all fictions.
>>134228334>This can be said of any immessurable feat in dc.>Again, Sakura just has the hax to deal with Mary in many ways.Well no because there is a lot of stuff proving not anyone can go so fast they beat instant teleportationCompared to your place never showing you need to be fast to move
>>134228334>Shazam has been beaten to death before, so i dunno what you are ttalking about.That's what I was questioning the tripfag on, yes. Shazam and the entire Marvel family have gotten killed before, so the idea that they're immune to death period is retarded.
>>134228344>I don't know what GL could do about that quantum fuckery. You'd need to make the assumption that he can counter it at allWhat? Hal? Green Lanterns can manipulate reality
>God created the Heavens, he created the earth! He created all the Hulkamaniacs! Then, he created a set of 24-inch pythons, brother! YOU BETTER HOLD ON TO THE HULKSTERS BACK AS HE RIDES THROUGH THE WAVES OF TIME AND SPACE LITTLE SAKURA, BECAUSE THE HULKSTER FEARS NO MAGICAL GIRLS, FROM WEEABOS TO CAPESHITTERS, WHACHU GONNA DO!!! WHEN HULKAMANIA RUNS WILLLLD ALL OVER YOUUUU!!!!
>>134228352>I guess no one is FTL in fiction then.what's this got to do with anything? If you measure an object moving one light year in one second, it's moving FTL. you can measure that because the framework of space and time enable it.>Moving any distance in no time is infinite speed in most if not all fictions.if the place has no space then it HAS no distance. you can surmise that the character has immunity to time hax if they can exist in a place without time but i'd be hesitant to somehow grant speed ratings from it
>>134228358>That's what I was questioning the tripfag on, yes. Shazam and the entire Marvel family have gotten killed before, so the idea that they're immune to death period is retarded.When has Billy or mary been beaten to death
>>134228264Does Tony have a time machine?>>134228260No, I want to do Deathstalker vs Ator.>>134228249>Not a permanent victoryMary flies into the heart of the sun.Mary Batson back on Earth says Shazam.EZ PZ>>134228289>They activate automaticAnd take time to come out of the cards, do their thing, etc.>>134228289When have they ever activated fast enough to stop something red shifting?>>134228289>Isn't remotely true.It's how the power of zeus used to work before it became pew pew lightning powers.You get pic related restated many, many times in Fawcett comics. 'Captain Marvel is protected from all harm, Captain Marvel can never die, Captain Marvel can never be destroyed, Captain Marvel is protected against all agencies of death."And this is backed up in the stories. The Marvels get sent beyond the Rock of Eternity where things stop existing...and they continue to exist.
>>134228377GL's are not reality warpers
>>134228382>f the place has no space then it HAS no distance. you can surmise that the character has immunity to time hax if they can exist in a place without timeOnly if normal things can’t exist in it
>>134228354Look, DC characters have been scaled to everyone and everything.Shazam MOST OF THE TIME is not infinite speed like Superman most of the time isn't as he takes at least a bit of time to move from galaxy to galaxy.Can you scale Mary and Catwoman to infinite /immeasurable speed by some outlier scaling them to flash? Sure.Let us just agree on two things.Mary is only winning with speed in your mind.and that such speed relies on which scaling is being used and that this is only happening by intentionally taking away Sakura's comparable speed feats.Can we just say its a draw?
>>134228424>Shazam MOST OF THE TIME is not infinite speed like Superman most of the time isn't as he takes at least a bit of time to move from galaxy to galaxy.Mary is only winning with speed in your mind.and that such speed relies on which scaling is being used and that this is only happening by intentionally taking away Sakura's comparable speed feats.Then I guess I’ll use her other speed feats because Sakura’s speed feats suck ass or don’t exist
I have no idea why this argument is even being had. Even if you argue thast Mary can somehow outspeed the cards (she can't), she still wouldn't be able to harm Sakura due to her being stronger than Clow Reed in every way and this aslso applying to her durability. Hell, she doesn't even really need a body anymore since she leaves the multiverse in Resevoir Chronicle and even her clones manifesting in it threaten to collapse all realities.She's also vastly superior to Fei Wang Reed, a subconscious manifestation of Clow Reed's desires, who could also casually annihilate the multiverse. So I'm not sure why the tripfag is pretending that Mary even compares in any way.
>>134228424>Can we just say its a draw?THE ONLY ONE THAT GOES OVER IS ME
>>134228448>Even if you argue thast Mary can somehow outspeed the cards (she can't), she still wouldn't be able to harm Sakura due to her being stronger than Clow Reed in every way and this aslso applying to her durability. Hell, she doesn't even really need a body anymore since she leaves the multiverse in Resevoir Chronicle and even her clones manifesting in it threaten to collapse all realities.>She's also vastly superior to Fei Wang Reed, a subconscious manifestation of Clow Reed's desires, who could also casually annihilate the multiverse. So I'm not sure why the tripfag is pretending that Mary even compares in any way.Reminder this wank exists is because of a use of the word “worlds” rather anything like an actual multiverse
>>134228451very few can stand against HHH's shovel of doom
>>134228399>And take time to come out of the cards, do their thing,No? That's never been the case if the cards are automatically acting to defend her. Sword for instance, instantly manifests into her hands without a summoning chant if it detects that she is in danger. Same for Shield. Thry only need the chant if she's consciously calling on them, and even that might not be a necessity once she surpasses Clow Reed.
>>134228399>sunPassive magic resistance says hi. At least say that mary has a way to stay mary marvel for as long as she wants to, or even forever.
>>134228448At some point with all of these multiverses being destroyed in all of these fictional verses I'm beginning to think nobody is actually that strong and the multiverses are just pathetically easy to destroy because this is getting ridiculous
>>134228471You'd have to be pretty retarded to think that they're talking about simple planets in the context of these events.
>>134228344>What can a GL do about quantum fuckeryMore quantum fuckery.I'm serious.>>134228358>They diedNever, actually, which puts Captain Marvel over Superman.>>134228439>>134228448Let me break this down for you.Sakura can go to a place outside time and space. While she's there, she is arbitrarily fast compared to anything within space time. Relative to anything inside her pocket reality, she's about as fast as a skateboard. If she brought a car along with her, the car could go faster than her.Mary Marvel can to to a place beyond time and space and through that place access any point in time and space in the multiverse. While she's in this place, she's capable of traveling to other galaxies in seconds.Do you see where this is going?Both can go outside spacetime, but only one has the ability to crash into the other's safe space and when she does she's much, much faster.>Muh Clow Reed made the multiverse wankYou're not going to like where that ends, because CLAMP is not going to get scaled above the Fawcett/DC verse.
>>134228504>No actual multiverse mentionTypicalReminds me of when people tries to say Sailor Moon had a multiverse. Instead of you know just one universe
>>134228488You'd be as retarded as the tripfag in that case. Multiverses existing and being destroyed literally predates everyone alive today. See Hinduism.
>>134228506Are you able to produce scans to counter what Quasar did in that showing? And do remember that was rookie Quasar, some 2 or 3 costume changes ago
>>134228472Not even the Prince of Asgard
>>134228358Literally when have they been murdered
>>134228473>Instantly manifestsThey still take time.There is a time between the empty hand and the filled hand. >>134228471>>134228504Redpill me, because I thought CLAMP had a real multiverse.
>>134228521>Hinduism Discarded. You don't know what you're talking about and heard about Hinduism from power scaling circles. It's disrespectful and unseemly to use them so crassly to get a gotcha on an argument that wasn't even being made.
>>134228506>Let me break this down for you.I'm not reading your diatribe tripfag. Because it's clear that you're STILL failing to comprehend how the cards' automatic defense works and you're trying to find ways to argue that Mary can outspent it somehow, when the cards will always react before whatever shit happens that would impact Sakura.
>>134228535If a guy’s only able to bring a bad scan of a sentence of “worlds” instead of like you know a mention of the multiverse, it’s probably bunk >>134228540That’s because they’re fast than a skateboard.
>>134228540>These things are MFTLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6E2zOMf6oELMFAOOOOO!!!!!
>>134228528This matchup is almost too perfect. Thor is supposed to be extremely powerful but he's a jobber. HHH terrorized the early to mid 2000s by burying guys with a lot of potential (who should've gone over) and irreparably turning them into jobbers
>>134228504>>134228512>Anon is coping and thinks "worlds" have their own space-time
As the one who made the thread because of the lewd body snatching, i apologize for giving the tripfag an in to debate how Mary can even compare to Sakura's hundreds of insta-win haxes, immeasurable speed and multiversal+ scaling.
>>134228563>No mention of multiple space timesSeriously just find one that says multiple universesYou can do that right?
>>134228550>>134228551Samefagging (or cocksucking one of your discord buddies) isn't going to give you a better argument, tripfag.
>>134228504>>134228563Holy shit this linework is unintelligible.
>>134228540https://ccsakura.fandom.com/wiki/The_DashThis is the speedster card. This is considered by Sakura and her entire magic set as fast.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccV4CH6nrvMThis is the Dash's episode, and its barely faster than lightning.That's pathetic. That's cripple tier compared to Mary's speeds.
>>134228506>comparing size of the multiverse meaning anything when Mary does not resist half of Sakura's wincons
>>134228568>>134228582https://youtu.be/pD5tOzcFrtAI really have no idea how any of this is better than even the speed of sound
>>134228568Don't apologize. It's always funny to watch the tripfag flounder over himself whenever it comes to trying to wank DC beyond other settings based on retarded logic.
>>134228556TIME TO PLAY THE GAME
>>134228602>Resists erasure>Resists mind control>Resists sealing>Resists being sucked up by the dark>Is faster than the Dash to the point the Dash and everything that scales to it might as well be a statueSakura can't even hide as the Rock of Eterntiy contains paths to anywhere and anywhen in the multiverse.This can all end with a "time huh?" if we want to be mean about it.
Has the Deku vs Asta preview dropped yet? >>134221337Liu vs Jago but it's live action. >>134223716I say GvJ is next season's finale. >>134227529>Nightwolf>>134225475End of discussion.>Erron BlackFor some reason McCree seems to be his most popular opponent, but I really don't get it.
>>134228602He's trying to use multiverse scaling, when DB using similar scaling for Archie gave it a cosmology comparable to DC and when they've already shown that they consider legitimate cosmic beings and conceptual forces >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superman-tier characters.
>>134228605The dash is not the source of the immessurable speed feats>>134228607This too. It is clear he is using anything he can do debate that CLAMP has no immessurable speed feats while also justifying DC's own outliers.In fact, i can just say anytthing about FTL is an anti feat for anyone above superman tier.
>>134228448Because some retard bit the tripfag's bait about Mary Marvel, instead of just ignoring him. Fucking weebs are fragile as hell about power levels.
>>134228632The tripfag always does this. It's only okay if DC does X thing, but if any other setting does it, he will IMMEDIATELY find a way to downplay it - even if it literally does not make sense.
>>134228632Okay but again, your immeasurable speed feats come from moving in a place that’s never stated for you to be fast to move. So we can discount both of their things sure. But then you get a Sakura barely faster than a car compared to a Mary faster than mach 9000
>>134228626>Has the Deku vs Asta preview dropped yet?https://streamable.com/vfp9b1
>>134228535>>134228540>>134228551>>134228563>>134228598>>134228602>>134228624>>134228629>Mary Anti-dimes Marvel>Sakura the Crowd Repellant Neither one of you have any potential for Dimes, the shovel for both of you
>>134228632>It's not the sourceWe know, it's your "beyond time and space" pocket dimensions.It's been explained to you time and time again why those don't help her at all.>DC's own outliersHer flying to Messier 3 after exploring all the planets in a galaxy is neither an outlier nor a DC feat.
>>134228646He has better feats than kinda fast animal
>>134228639Meh, even if OP didn't do it, there's a non-zero chance that the tripfag would have samefagged until he got someone uninvolved to reply. He's been called out for samefagging arguments without his trip before.
>>134228657>It's been explained to you time and time again why those don't help her at all.You haven't provided much (if any) explanation for why those don't count. >Her flying to Messier 3 after exploring all the planets in a galaxy is neither an outlier nor a DC feat.>nor a DC featSo why are we discussing it? They're not going to suddenly scale Mary to stuff from Fawcett - she only gets what scaling DC proper gives her. So what kind of Superman scaling does she have?
>>134228654MachoAids didn't draw dimes
>>134228521lokas in hinduism are solar systems and there are 14 of them
>>134228709>You haven't provided much (if any) explanation for why those don't count.No proof you need to be special to move in that >So why are we discussing it? They're not going to suddenly scale Mary to stuff from Fawcett - she only gets what scaling DC proper gives her. So what kind of Superman scaling does she have?The Wizard isn’t affected by Crisises
>>134228556But is HHH worthy of Mjolnir?
>>134217944Exactly why is Captain Marvel so strong when Shazam, the wizard that empowers him, has died to a literal granite block falling on his head?
>>134228724>The Wizard isn’t affected by CrisisesNot being affected by Crisises =/= multiversal level power. The only thing being immune to a Crisis does is allow you to keep past characterization from previous runs.
>>134228715>Cheating Macho man out of victory>Killing him with a heart attackAnd they wonder why that shit was anti-dimes
>>134228729hell no. Hunter was characterized as a dirty fighter and a coward when he couldn't beat someone one on one, as well as a degenerate. and he did so much despicable stuff as COO I'd be surprised if he's "more worthy" than Loki
>>134228715Nor did a lot of the fights this season. Hell, I don't think anyone has given a shit for some of these past matches.
>>134228741>Not being affected by Crisises =/= multiversal level power.But it does mean he gives out the same power as stated in the first Billy series post crisis
>>134228624>>134228624>sucked up by the darkalso Sakura is acasual and muulti incarnate, so time huh won't work.At her best, she just exists as a body-less spirit and can't be punched or zapped anymore.
>>134228734>Shazam, the wizard that empowers him, has died to a literal granite block falling on his head?Because he’s a fucking Wizard. Their things aren’t bashing boulders with their heads. It’s doing mystic mojo while not being much on their own
>>134228678literally dismissing the actual feats
>>134228766He gives out the power yes, but there's no proof that power actually makes any of the Marvels into casual multiverse-busters like the tripfag is arguing.
>>134228781when you're getting into multiverse ratings I would expect a little bit above human physicals
>>134228734What is stopping any of Sakura's summons or other selves stepping in and killing the stone, or Shazam (the wizard).
>Miss Marvel shitters>Cardcaptor Sakura shitters
>>134228789Because you can only give out “moving in place that never specified an actual standard of speed” What would happen if I put a gerbil in that place?
>>134228805Literally nothing. The Wizard, despite what the tripfag might tell you, dies to whit as easily as the average person. Let alone a god-wizard in the form of a little girl suddenly showing up and slicing him in half without warning.
>>134228805>>134228820>What is stopping any of Sakura's summons or other selves stepping in and killing the stone, or Shazam (the wizard).It wouldn’t really matter. The Wizard literally dies in his first appearance so Billy and the rest of the family doesn’t need him alive.
>>134228808Just wanted to share my love for the body snatching twinning Mary Marvel victory.Why does this have to happen every time a DC herald is involved in anything?
>>134228809It wouldn't be able to do anything. The speed feats for Sakura come from her being able to move in spaces where she literally should not be able to.
>>134228839>The speed feats for Sakura come from her being able to move in spaces where she literally should not be able to.Okay show me you need to be special for that to move in that place
>>134228809If they do not have the strong enough magic, then the magicians in clamp are affected by the magic around them. That is why no random dumbass can move around in a realm with no time.
>>134228832>Why does this have to happen every time a DC herald is involved in anything?Because the tripfag needs DC to win at literally everything in regards to battleboarding in order to maintain his sense of control and validate his existence.
>>134228854>If they do not have the strong enough magic, then the magicians in clamp are affected by the magic around them.Okay, that’s not really what I askedIt would be a power feat if anything, not a matter of Sakura being fast
>>134228852this>>134228854She is seen resisting Eriol's magic, ignoring the AoE freezing spell, and Tsubasa Chronicle/Clow scaling.Again, i can just make mary peak human / subsonic level by scaling her to usual catwoman tagging two flashes.
Since we're discussing our never-evers and multiverses today, who can he fight?
>>134228889>She is seen resisting Eriol's magic, ignoring the AoE freezing spell, and Tsubasa Chronicle/Clow scaling.Okay, then that sounds like she doesn’t need to be fast since you just pointed out it’s about the strength of her magic, not how fast she naturally is. You just debunked yourself
>>134228709>Why they don't count.Again.>They both can go to places outside time and space>But Sakura is only about as fast as lighting relative to her pocket dimension while Mary is faster than a starship relative to the ROE.>And to make matters worse for Sakura, she can't get to the Rock of Eternity while Mary can get to wherever and whenever she hides.Sakura is playing checkers while Mary is playing chase. She wouldn't be the first person she's hunted down across time space and dimensions.>>134228734>>134228805>>134228820God you guys are stupid.He allows himself to die in literally the first story because he was old as shit and wanted to move on, then his ghost assisted the kids whenever they lit a fire."Why'd he die to a rock falling on his head if he's so strong?"Because he literally wanted to die.
>>134228902Ignoring the arguments already making her stupidly fast (or the fact she can automatically teleport), the cards are all automatic in their effects and she should scalke to Clow being able to just passively rewrite reality. So I'm not sure why you're so hung up on her speed.
>>134228926>God you guys are stupid.Good argument there, tripfag. You still haven't posted any actual justification for the Marvels being multiversal or higher using actual DC stuff or why Sakura's stuff shouldn't count but Mary's has superiority.
>>134228832>>134228859Kinda ironic this happened with a post that kinda supported Mary winning. (tho Sakura has passive magical resistance to possession and enemy magic itself, so...it was just for the lewd of it)
>>134228122She survived outside of it, so clearly that's a lie
>>134228928>Ignoring the arguments already making her stupidly fast (or the fact she can automatically teleport), the cards are all automatic in their effectsSee you say automatic but likeWe’ve seen them in action. They take quite a while. https://youtu.be/Zd8X5I6QVt0
>>134228122"Nothing being able to survive outside of it" =/= literally being deleted from reality so hard even the stuff influenced by your existence ceases to exist.
>>134228889>She passed her spell check, therefore she can move faster than anythingI see we're running off the "Hit is faster than time" gambit.>>134228944>No actual justificationSivana with Marvel powers was able to --defeat-- Kal-L. Not just fight him, defeat him. And this wasn't "oh I covered my fist in magic lightning." He outmuscled and outfought him.>>134228959Because she can't be erased from reality.
>>134228926>man shoots himself in the head and dies>no you see he WANTED to die by that bullet, it doesn't mean he's weaker than the bullet
>>134228979Well yeah, he’s a Wizard. Sure he can make a shield or something but like it’s a fate thing with him
>>134228979Sakura doesn't turn her magic on to protect herself, she's just a weak human too.>>134228974It's the same effect to the point the Sivana senpai thought it would in fact delete the Marvels from reality and were surprised that it didn't happen.
>>134228972>video is unavailableLmao.But the episode clip you're trying to use also comes from an episode where she's using the summoning chant, not the cards acting under their own power. We see Sword act on its own earlier and it instantly manifests to guard her when she almost gets cut apart.
>>134228928>>134228972>>134228999I guess Dragon Ball is so fucking slow beause Frieza vs Goku takes 20 episodes and they have to scream to transform and do their techniques.Cinematic timing, retard.We see Superman fly around too when we as humans cannot see anything ftl.by LORE, Sakura and her cards (since they are literally clow magic) are immessurable speed.
>>134228977How many feats did this Kal-L have?
>>134229008Also that is VERY early Sakura, before she surpassed Clow in every aspect at the end of the first anime.Do you want me to scale Superman (and thus the marvels) to him getting knocked out by two giant planets crashing into each other.
>>134228977>Sivana with Marvel powers was able to --defeat-- Kal-L. Not just fight him, defeat him.And was Superman busting multiverses at this point or was this "jobs to galaxies and stars" Superman? >>134228999>Sakura doesn't turn her magic on to protect herself, she's just a weak human too.When she reaches and exceeds the level of Clow Reed, Sakura ceases to be human and no longer needs her body. By the time of Resevoir Chronicle, she and Syoran no longer exist in the multiverse since their mere presence threatened to collapse it, so they sort of just 'exist' as bodiless entities who can create clones of themselves with all their powers at will if they need to intervene.
>>134229006>and it instantly manifests to guard her when she almost gets cut apart.It’s available to me so youre probably just from like a third world.And you say it’s automatic but sounds like it’s just faster than the fodder of her verse>>134229008Well I mean they also don’t need to rely on scooters to travel.
>>134229038or when he first got killed by doomsday? or not being able to move earth without help?
>>134229006The sword is not faster than the dash, and the dash is not impressive by speedster standards.
>>134229038>Do you want me to scale Superman (and thus the marvels) to him getting knocked out by two giant planets crashing into each other.I feel that would be still better than most of Sakura’s best durability feats
I sense a lot of non-drawing shitters on this thread. Cardcaptor Sakura or Mary Marvel don't sell any merch
>>134229053>And you say it’s automatic but sounds like it’s just faster than the fodder of her verseCards react automatically even to other cards or beings on the level of The Nothing and above. This is comical downplay.
>>134229053>>134229069Why does Superman even need to walk around as clark kent? Context.She has no reason to suddenly teleport to school when she in character wants to be have a normal school life.
>>134229059>The sword is not faster than the dash,When invoked, yes. But their automatic defense is the exact same speed. They just instantly manifest to save her life with no delay.
>>134218653You disingenuous retard, do you not understand how golden age Captain Marvel worked? He's a separate entity from Billy, and when the lightning hits him or Billy they just trade places. What happened here was just the thug changing places with Captain Marvel. Nobody was taken over here, it's glorified teleportation. Fuck off.
>>134229077>She has no reason to suddenly teleport to school when she in character wants to be have a normal school life.Okay, but teleportation doesn’t make you fast. Like Mary can just punch her in the stomach before she teleportsAnd she would do it at speeds above a scooter
>>134229070Never forget when Vinnie Mac got Rick Rolled on Live TV.
The reason why people hate Otto is because his entire motivation is wanting another Ben vs Hal. Specifically seeing an actually beloved character be humiliated by a comic book B+-lister.Until we meet againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lAbPkDD6B0
>>134229070Not anymore, Sakura has not had new content since clear card, but her manga keeps getting rereleased, so that's something.Its not like this matchup means anything, its just a tripfag defending DC against any other fiction.Sakura should be fighting Yugi or maybe Moon or Madoka, not some random DC herald because both have "magic".
>>134229093The tripfag does not read the comics he wanks. News at 11.
>>134229071>Cards react automatically even to other cards or beings on the level of The Nothing and above. This is comical downplay.And we have established the speed feats in this setting suck donkey balls
>>134229107No, he does. He just doesn't do much else
>>134229098She does not use a scooter in a serious fight against another magician or being that is not a clow card.Show me any tsubasa chronicle or Clow fight where she uses a scooter.
>>134229099imagine if someone played Benoit's theme
>>134229099>Vince getting Rick RolledI miss those days of pure kino
>>134229098Her teleportation becomes automatic if the cards sense thast she's in danger. That or Shield appears to block the hit. Or Sword instantly takes control of her arms to bisect Mary. Or Mary gets Maze'd. Or The Nothing deletes her. Etc.You have yet to provide an argument preventing any of the cards from killing Mary the moment she displays malicious intent.
>>134229122>She does not use a scooter in a serious fight against another magician or being that is not a clow card.Probably because they’re not very fast either
>>134229117>this settingCLAMP is multiple universes all coexisting in a wide multiverse with feats being shared from everywhere. The original Cardcaptor is one small part of a vast multimedia franchise and starts as the weakest incarnation of it. I'm not sure how you're judging the entirety of CLAMP based on the feats from the very beginning of it.
>>134229137ThisSakura Card Captor's story is not about her fighting other magicians most of the time and the cards do not have killing intent randomly against other clow / sakura cards.>>134229152trip back on
>>134229137>Her teleportation becomes automatic if the cards sense thast she's in danger.Okay then be the faster than the card sensing. Which should be easy since the fastest one is just an espeon
>>134229159>CLAMP is multiple universes all coexisting in a wide multiverse with feats being shared from everywhere. The original Cardcaptor is one small part of a vast multimedia franchise and starts as the weakest incarnation of it. I'm not sure how you're judging the entirety of CLAMP based on the feats from the very beginning of it.Show me someone doing what Mary and Billy can and I’ll rank it higherAssuming of course Sakura has at least matched them in speed
>>134229124When they had no crowds and showed the audience through streams someone actually posted a pic of Benoit.
>>134229159>>134229185You are literally using first ever arc Sakura.Dude, i even offered you a draw so we can actually discuss other more thematic match-ups
>>134229209>Dude, i even offered you a draw so we can actually discuss other more thematic match-ups>Still no speed feats aside from “room with no time and space you don’t need speed to move in”
>>134229226This is going nowhere, i already explained this to you
>>134229070>>134229071>>134229077>>134229093>>134229098>>134229137>>134229159>>134229167>>134229168>>134229185>I challenge both these shitters to a 2v1 match
>>134229233Yes you explained how the dimension with no space and time requires magical power to move inBut not speed. So no speed feats in all of CLAMP apparently? Yikes and you’re picking a fight with anyone? Might as well just pick MHA or Black Clover at this point
>>134229052>Was Superman busting multiverses at this point?Yes. In fact, Kal-El and Kal-L knocked each other out, so they scale to each other, meaning Kal-L gets his Father Time feat.>>134229093Billy becomes a disembodied Firestorm-esque face when Captain Marvel is out. Same thing would happen to Sakura. There's no "place" they go too, casual-kun
>>134229240Based Vince with the Abrahamic God scaling
>>134229091>They just manifestAnd then act slowly.>>134229137>THE SWORD GIVES SAKURA FLASH SPEED ARMSLMFAOOO!!!!!
>>134229246trip back on and stop ignoring replies
>>134229251>Yes. In fact, Kal-El and Kal-L knocked each other out, Doesn't sound like they were busting multiverses to me. Mind posting an actual page?
>>134229282Okay but that’s literally the only “feat” you keep using instead of like circling the universe and back in a second
>>134229269Cardcaptor Sakura and Mary Marvel vs the Genetic Jackhammer
>>134229295Impossible, both get stompedi concede
>>134229168>Okay then be the faster than the card sensing.Can't, unless you can also move instantly or automatically maneuver yourself to always be attacking first. At which point you need to try and determine which one has superiority over the other based on what level of nonsense their respective automatic defenses have tanked.
>>134229293lets just agree to disagree
I inexplicably want to see a CSM vs JJBA fight just to see how Swan wanks his way out of that shit
>>134229279>And then act slowly.Again, no. They're usually already acting to defend her before Sakura even realizes anything is going on.
>>134229285Justice League 220, the one with the evil Johnny Thunder
>>134229307>Can't, unless you can also move instantly or automatically maneuver yourself to always be attacking first. At which point you need to try and determine which one has superiority over the other based on what level of nonsense their respective automatic defenses have tanked.Okay and the feats of them breaking even the sound barrier are?
>>134229329Bring us the Trinity
>>134229329Not a page, tripfag. Post it here instead of telling people to go find it themselves whilst you wank yourself off without having to put in any actual effort to provide evidence.
>>134229316>lets just agree to disagreeWe can agree Sakura is full of wank It seems like automatic doesn’t mean much when you got a low threshold.
>>134229319Look at this threadAnyways, there are no actually thematic clamp vs dc matches.Sakura should only be fighting Yugi.
>>134229348No, i have just grown tired of you disregarding her featsNot even made it fun by actually going the body possession route.
>>134229372I disregard that people really think that Mary Marvel or Cardcaptor Sakura could draw even a flock of seagulls
>>134229345My bad, it was 73 and 74.Here's the cover. Guess what happens in the comic?
>>134229332The Snow covering all of Tokyo in snow instantly and The Firey which melted it all just as fast, The Dark covering the entire planet in darkenss instantly, Erase doing its thing, The Fly, The Loop can do it before youre even aware what's going on, etc.They should also scale to and above other magic users, like Fay being able to cancel out magic across an entire country, and several instant effects on wide scales throughout CLAMP.
>>134229406You think any of that beats 33,000 light years in a few moments?
>>134229406>>134229406also magic knight rayearth scalin'
>>134229403What part of that cover looks like multiverse busting to you, tripfag?
>>134229372>No, i have just grown tired of you disregarding her featsNon existent ones
>>134229422>and several instant effects on wide scales throughout CLAMP.>>134229406Okay but where is the proof she is faster than them Also scaling someone to a magical wave they can produce is a little iffy. Often times they use magic because they can’t physically do the thing they want with their reaction speed
>>134229355>Anyways, there are no actually thematic clamp vs dc matches.I think someone posted Clow Reed vs Phantom Stranger
>>134229422That too. Sword can also cut space-time, which is a thing that hasn't been mentioned yet.
>>134229403>>134229406>>134229417>>134229424>>134229426NEITHER ONE OF YOU GOT THE MATH RIGHT
>>134229451>Sword can also cut space-time, which is a thing that hasn't been mentioned yet.Space time doesn’t really have a durability
>>134229456Scott steiner vs Issac Newton
>>134229251>Billy becomes a disembodied Firestorm-esque face when Captain Marvel is outThis is blatantly a lie. >>134229251No version is Superman is a multiverse buster you retarded fuck.
>>134229444>Okay but where is the proof she is faster than themI haven't been arguing for that to begin with, I was simply posting the card feats to show that thry all work on an instantaneous scale when thry actually need to.>>134229445That matchup isn't thematic beyond both being magic users. The Phantom Stranger does his job to protect reality from various threats, Clow meanwhile just fucks around because he's so powerful that it's boring and isn't really motivated to do much beyond wander.
>>134229424>Superman can't multiverse bustLMFAOOOO!!!Okay man, here you are going big wizard man used magic cards to create some worlds, so that means he can kamehameha with the force of a bazillion universes, but Superman, the guy known for producing enough energy in a brawl to restore an infinity of timelines, isn't multiverse level?Sure man, sure.
>>134229484>I haven't been arguing for that to begin with, I was simply posting the card feats to show that thry all work on an instantaneous scale when thry actually need to.Your version of instantaneous is faster than people with shit speed feats or none at all
>>134229482>Blatant lie.I see your problem.You're ignorant and you're stupid,Okay dum-dum, where do you think Billy goes?
>>134229484>Clow meanwhile just fucks around because he's so powerful that it's boring and isn't really motivated to do much beyond wander.Time to solo CLAMP
>>134229510>LMFAOOOO!!!Good argument, tripfag. Please post the page showing Superman actually busting a multiverse.
>Beyonder>Superman>Cardcaptor Sakura>Clow Reed>Mary MarvelThey all tremble before the immortal power of Hulkamania
>>134228901Jon or Kid Goten. Both of which end with Willis fucking murdering them before they even realize there's a fight - they literally can't perceive the majority of him, whilst he can probably just remove their cores without visibly doing anything.
>>134229559I fucking kneel
>>134229559>Unaffected by the Anti life equation due to Hollywood Hogan possessing a form of it due to his NWO powersGotta love the Hulkster
>>134229559>Superman thinks he's got the victory>He goes for an Infinite Mass Punch with Multiversal output>Hulk Hogan kicks out at two and begins Hulking out>Superman is ASTOUNDED by this development, and punches him once more, going around the entire universe in less than a zeptosecond for momentum>Hulk Hogan BLOCKS the punch, which sends Superman back>Hogan points at Clark>"YOUUUUUUUUU">Hogan pummels Clark over and over>BIG BOOT!>Superman refuses to stay down>Hulk Hogan slams him through the entire Bleed and they end up in Monitor Space, then the Source Wall>Hulk Hogan beheads Clark with a leg drop using the full Omniversal power of Hulkamania
what's the next sportsman ep, /co/?
>>134229615>Silence washes over the entire DB-verse>The victors of every previous DB gather around the Hulkster>From Zoom to Doomsday to Broly to Doom>Wiz and Boomstick are there too>They all collectively kneel>Background becomes an American flag
>>134229510The brain rot is treating Copeworld hard these days.>>134229528They switch places, what is so hard to grasp about that?
>>134229682Well no because CM doesn’t have a space he chills out in while Billy is being a civvie
>>134229559Even the Tripfags fear the Hulkster's wrath
So what did the big bad guy do to cause the CLAMP multiverse to start dying? Was he blowing them all up with waves of antimatter like Monty?
>>134229682He's never been the same since Black Adam vs Apocalypse.
>>134229682Someone never read a Captain Marvel comic in their life.Go back to reading Cardcaptors, it's more your speed.>>134229782I'm curious as well.
>>134229510yeah Superman cannot bust multiverses. this should not be a controversial statement or an aggravating circumstance
>>134229782Whatever the reason, Monty a fucking pussy. Imagine needing a machine to destroy the multiverse slowly
>>134229479>obscure web serialThey will never fucking do this. In fact I’d argue it’d be a fucking miracle if ANYONE on the db team has even HEARD of Worm, let alone the term Parahuman.
>>134229782Destroyed the laws and concepts keeping the worlds intact. Then he kept everything imploding due to his own bullshit powers.
>>134229823>Imagine needing a machine to destroy the multiverse slowlyNo he didn’t. The cannon was to destroy the protection the Monitor gave to the remaining worlds
>>134229836What do you mean by laws and concepts?
>CLAMPLooks like another universe I'll have to fraudcheck after Fateshit
>>134229559Wrestling is unique because of kayfabe. WE exist in kayfabe, literally us, and the wrestlers can interact with US. Pro Wrestling is the most powerful verse
>>134229880This guy got cucked by Sinestro so bad he turned into a lapdog
Since Heroes Trunks was used, I assume if Death Battle wants to use Bardock in the future, they're gonna use the Heroes/Xenoverse version of him too that can go SS3.
>>134229999Who would he even fight? they already used Omni Man.
>>134230024You act like they can't use Omni-Man again when they've used Shadow the Hedgehog three times, and fucking Batman FOUR TIMES.
>>134229782>>134229836He also has the same "can't exist in the multiverse at full power" deal that Sakura and Syoran have, so that's another part of it. He also destroyed it instantly, then resurrected it all on top of annihilating Time and a bunch of other stuff.
>>134229967I have to get rid of the uppity jumpstarts before going for the main meal
>>134230049I thought the multiverse started to die because he brought someone back to life? When did he break the universe just by existing?
>>134229880A reminder that Otto said Terumi>>>>Nasu Multiverse
>>134230051>>134230111Terumi killing CLAMPverse would be so fucking based. I want to see the hope die in Sakura's eyes as she realizes all her friends and family are going to die.
>>134218653So much has changed since the golden age that nothing from it is really applicable anymore when it comes to Shazam. Or are you also accounting for Zeus needing to throw the lightning manually in response to Billy's shouting?
>>134230110Reviving someone was never Fei's goal - his goal was to irreversibly distort all of space and time.
>>134230111I really don’t know why he said that
>>134230143Wasn't his goal to create a reality outside time and space with Yukko?
Sakura and Terumi have nothing in common and no connections.
>>134230151That was technically just him acting on Clow's lingering will and desire. Fei had no other goal beyond just being Clow's leftover willpower given shape, so whatever desires existed there got imprinted on him.His ultimate goal still necessitated destroying all existence though.
>>134230148Because it is true
>>134230175Arguing with the Terumifag is pointless - he's a schizo, like anybody else who supports the tripfag or has to characterfag.
>>134230175The only connection that's needed is that Cardcaptor Sakura is a innocent soul that terumi would love to see in despair
>>134230192But why HIM
>>134230127Despairbasedtoo bad Sakura solos blazblue
>>134230221Dies to Hakumen on a off day
>>134230306Sword alone does everything Hakumen does but better.>b-butNo. Cope.
>>134230341>>134230375Justice Autism>>>>everything sakura has to offer
>>134230459Hax > Autismalso silence makes hakumen unable to speak justice autism, which will nerf his spirit
>>134230521>Thinking you can stop the Autism in his soul with a mere spellYeah Sakura is fucked
>>134230555You forget, fuckheadFlat is justice
>>134230612Sakura, I kneel...
>it's another "magical girl diehards think anyone else cares about their shit" episode>it's another "capeshitters are too sensitive to back away from obvious bait" episode>it's another "Otto being Otto" episode
>>134230612All this thread, and the ending of the previous one, was nothing more than bloody underaged girls wank?
>>134230737The magical girl diehard in this instance appears to be a pedophile, too. "Flat is justice", fuck's sake why did that anon have to post that.
>>134230763its a lucky star reference dumbass
>>134230612The flatter it is, the easier it is to stomp on
>>134230789hotit would be hotter if terumi was a girl tho, not only killing her after putting despair in her heart, but instead making her into her servant/slave(but sakura still solos blazblue)
>>134228598The Dash let's you be as fast as you need, that's how magic buffs work
>>134229644>Hulkster only came to avenge the Macho Man's death at the hands of the Kool-Aid Man>He sees the pitcher kneeling>24-inch pythons run wild, another Big Boot, the True Big Boot, it's power cracking the very Omniverse as it shatters the pitcher to dust and vaoprizes the juice>Hulkster puts down Macho Man's shades and kneels.>"You'll always be the cream of the crop, brotha."
>writing ryona fanfics with actual childrenif this isn't the cue to /trash/ this place, then I don't know what is
>>134230940Support Lord English vs Superboy Prime, and you will see your wish come true for certain.
>>134230812>it would be hotter if terumi was a girl thoSee Junko Enoshima.
>>134230895Literally zero speed feats
>>134229880>Can manipulate the Multiverse due to being a being of pure fear abstract>No sells the Boundary, which is a dimension that shoves constant information form all over the Multiverse inside a Individual's psyche>Resisted the Time Killer Blade>Is a being that exists outside of logic, meaning weapons that follow the fundamental rules of the world cannot harm him>Can create Phenomena Interventions, which are basically Universal resets>Can mess his his opponent's perceptions just by being near their soulsThe fuck Sakura is supposed to do against someone like him, shuffle cards at him until he gets bored?
>>134228901>>134229574Though in all honesty, I'm pretty certain Willis wins all of his thematic matchups. It's a Lord English situation for him.
>>134230895No it isn't. Otherwise it never wouldn't have gotten tagged by lightning.
>>134230977actual feats and hax
>>134230977>Can manipulate the Multiverse due to being a being of pure fear abstractWeaker characters than EOS Sakura can already do this.>No sells the Boundary, which is a dimension that shoves constant information form all over the Multiverse inside a Individual's psycheWouldn't really affect anyone on Clow Reed's level.>Is a being that exists outside of logic, meaning weapons that follow the fundamental rules of the world cannot harm himNothing Sakura has or does is conventional.>Can create Phenomena Interventions, which are basically Universal resetsSee the first point.>Can mess his his opponent's perceptions just by being near their soulsSee the first point.
>>134230895I saw the video, that's bullshit. It ran into Sakura like a tard after dodging a bolt of lightning and ate a big telegraphed strike to the face. It's best feat is making a girl win a race through magic.
>>134231011CLAMPverse was brought to the brink by someone being brought back from the dead, it's a pussy level universe.
>>134231034CLAMP feels very wanked. I can't find any details on Clow Reed creating the entire multiverse.
>>134231034I'm not sure why you're still parroting this when >>134230143 already told you that this is wrong.
>>134228926>He allows himself to die in literally the first story because he was old as shit and wanted to move on, then his ghost assisted the kids whenever they lit a fire.>"Why'd he die to a rock falling on his head if he's so strong?">Because he literally wanted to die.Meanwhile Clow Reed lived for 300 years, could easily live 3000, but decides to just lay down and die because he's done enough in this life, meanwhile he has multiple reincarnations and a lineage of powerful descendant wizards.
>>134228224>>134228281Quasar vs Starman would be some kino shit
>>134231053Clow didn't create the multiverse - that was the original Mokona. What he DID do is subconsciously decide "I don't like the way this multiverse is set up" and completely altered everything in it to his personal standards. He was powerful enough that Mokona was personally drawn to him and decided to hand him and Yuko the ability to just make two smaller variants of itself.
>>134231074>Meanwhile Clow Reed lived for 300 years, could easily live 3000, but decides to just lay down and die because he's done enough in this life,Okay and the Wizard is old enough for Egyptian times so sounds like he beats whatshisface
>>134229052The Sakura and Syaoran of TRC aren't CCS Sakura and Syaoran
>>134228280Impenetrable force field says not a chance
>>134231086What did he change?
>>134231108The ones that show up near the end aren't, yes - they're instead duplicates made by the originals with all of their powers.
>>134230995He foresaw all those lies about the CLMAPverse being strong
>>134231108literally the same being with tthe same magic
Who should Goemon fight?
>>134231134THE MASTER SYSTEM CAN SEE EVERY POSSIBILITY(Except that on time.)>>134231145Haohmaru
>>134230985So lightspeed?>>134231020Nigger she sealed The Thunder BEFORE The Dash
>>134228403GL's can do literally anything, anon
>>134231153>Except that one timeKEIKAKU KEIKAKU
>>134231193Unless their foe looks like this
>>134231117Change the fundamental rules and laws of every reality. Aside from the one that prevents true resurrection - that one he just ignored and a passing momentary thought of his was enough to bring back Yuko and make her entirely immortal when it would have otherwise needed the destruction of the entire multiverse. Said wish also ended up causing Yuko to suffer forever, but that's just how things go.
>>134231113they made him around planetary in his death battle with cable
>>134231230Yellow has never been something they could never defeatMost golden age stories had Hal find ways around them. He could for example target the air molecules surrounding this weebshit lady
>>134231193No they cannot. It's an assuring platitude though
>>134231244>Change the fundamental rules and laws of every realityUnaffected due to existing outside of reality. So tell me, when Clow Reed dies, where's his God?
>>134231328Its okay Terumi-kun, you do not have to bring despair to anyone anymore, ill be your friend from now on...>hope hug
>>134231328>when Clow Reed diesHe just instantly reincarnates with all his powers. Sometimes as multiple people. That's why Eriol exists. And Sakura's dad. And Fei (since he was made by Eriol). Clow himself can also just decide to not be dead whenever. It's how he still does shit throughout the multiverse even when he ostensibly is no longer around.
>magical girl anime that isn't sailor moon or madoka magica
>>134229101She SHOULD be fighting >>134217991, it's PERFECT
>>134231371>doesnt know precure, card captor or kill la killyawn
>>134231370So can the Wizard
>>134231134>>134231221Every possibility except the one where Mori didn't leave ArcSys, apparently.
>>134231244Clamp shuts down if you bring someone back from the dead? Really?
>>134231124I'm referring to the teenagers we are following in the plot
>>134231371>>134231377>doremi>Tokyo mew mew>nanoha >Illya
>>134231371>he doesn't know fucking Precure or CardcaptorThis site is riddled with newfags, holy fuck.
>>134231377>>134231446>>134231451Sorry I watch things that wouldn't get me ostracized from society, I guess.
>>134217991Please never post this again, i hate when people give riders shit matchups.
>>134231491>posts on /co/>i'm a chad, y-you guys!
>>134229615>>134229644>didn't once say 'TRUFF!'Fake and gay
>>134231135I thought they were magic clones or some shit
>>134231230Arisia is yellower than that, anon
>>134231511How is it shit? They do they same fucking things>fight monster with special power>seal monster as a card>use card to use special power to seal more monsters>collect them all, become an almighty god
>>134231266Brainiac 5's impenetrable force field no sells punches from Superman and universal destruction
>>134231654I was talking about the way they were portrayed in the death battle, so Booster was planet level and Tony was multiversal
>>134231683Death Battle is notorious for equalization of opponents to make the match look closerNothing in Tony's arsenal is even bothering Booster's force field. Booster could do the same thing he did to Guy and put him in a bubble
>>134231735I feel like we're having different discussions here
>>134231735Can Tony's strongest form match Waverider Booster Gold?
>>134231766i dunno, celestials are kinda strong
>tripfag and his discord trannies got mindbroken so bad by the fact that anime exists so he goes on a spitefueled spazzout about characters nobody cares about in modern day
I have a good question:Is there a hypothetical matchup that would actually scare you? Like, not just both fighters, but the fight itself being complete nightmare fuel start to finish.
>>134231831Trump vs Obama
>>134231747Most likely, but he comes off like one of those people who would say silly things like a DC ant being stronger than a Marvel ant on the basis of being from DC
>>134231831The way Otto described Shinji vs Tetsuo made it out to be incredibly good nightmare fuel.
>>134231831what, like how it would play out? or because the research would be so stupid it goes from annoying to funny to downright existentially scary?
>>134231920>>134231831You want something really fucked up? Giygas vs Shinji during Instrumentality
>>134231652You have not watched blade
>>134232172People that ask for magical girl fights are generally pretty stupid, I've found
>>134231145Lupin Gang vs Cooper Gang3v3
>>134229682>The brain rot is treating Copeworld hard these days.Wait until 2024That's when the real fun begins
>>134232468>People that ask for stupid fights are stupidftfy
>>134232468Seems to be the case. The Oma vs Comic Tommy match is also one I dislike, Hongo vs Captain America is the only one with any traction since Spiderman crushes V3.
I see /co/'s everpresent envy for /a/ strikes again.
>>134232766Manga continues to outsell comics to this day because we do not have faggotry, niggers or SJWs
>>134232766>>134232855Do you seriously only/primarily go to this board for Death Battle?
>>134232545The best is yet to come
>>134232855>Manga continues to outsell comicsRemember Demon Slayer? Probably not, since it was flavor of the month bullshit that was replaced by another shitty series.
>>134232925Because the manga's over and the next season has yet to come.Soon as that next season comes you'll still have more people talking about it than whatever dumb stuff Marvel or DC's brewing up like Peter being cucked for the 50th time.
>>134232752WOL is for Hero
>>134232855...DB isn't a contest of who sold the most.
>>134232985>Peter being cucked for the 50th timewho fucked Mary Jane this time?
>>134232925>demon slayer unpromptedIt finished years ago, the anime is off season and yet it still occupies your mind rent free
>>134231491Hey guess what, any anime does that to you. Normalfags don't watch 'anime' they watch 'popular thing'. Sailor Moon is no longer popular therefore liking it is seen as weird to the normalfag crowd. Sorry to have to tell you this.
>>134232855>we do not have faggotryBullshit I've seen a fuck ton of monogamous "harem" series.
Are there any notable MUs between 2 heroic versions of villians?
>>134234746One could argue for Pre Fall Anakin vs pre Darkness Young Xehanort.
>>134234666The fuck kind of retarded thinking is this?
>>134235419The truth? You think normalfags watch stuff for genuine interest? No they watch it because Big Bang story was somehow a popular show and made it "cool" to like nerdy things on a superfluous level.
>>134234796Why not just Anakin vs Terra? You could at least use Teranort as the "villainous" version of the character.
>>134235857Because it was revealed in the>mobile gameThat Xehanort was actually the chosen one but we know how that turned out.
Alright, so, the actual match that's coming out Sunday. Asta likely has the stat advantage, what with the lightspeed thing. Also, his enemies tend to have larger impacts on the environment, which probably will be interpreted as him having greater strength and durability. But most of his abilities are flat out useless against Deku, who doesn't use magic. Deku is more analytical, and his abilities are probably going to be more useful. But not that much more, given 2 of them are just kinetic energy manipulators, and Asta also has a bargain bin Spider Sense and the ability to fly. The black whip and smokescreen might be useful. I think Asta takes this via stats.
>>134234746>Heroic versions of villiansLike Injustice Lex? Infamous Iron Man? Jokester? Rose Wilson?
>>134234746What about nu Loki vs "I woke up and decided to be an antihero today" Black Adam?
>>134236583That Loki can trap beyonders
>>134236591I wasn't terribly impressed by those Beyonders. Ewing can write a lot of good things, but his cosmic stuff is absolute bottom feeder dogshit
>>134236020I think people make too much of a point about Asta lacking anti-magic use here as a disadvantage. Sure, that’s useful for him, but it’s not as though he’s used to powering through enemies because he has anti-magic and they’re weak to it. No, he gets up close and in their face anyways, and is plenty used to taking beatings, so I don’t imagine Deku would be that different from what he normally faces.Ultimately, both lack any good hax (Gearshift COULD be one for Deku in the future, but it’s way too early to tell) so this really will be a battle of stats.
Welp, it's ded
Sub 50 IPs is a dire showing of this thread being detestable the entire way through. Non-db OP image combined with tripfags and tripfag drama all the while the running ”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””jokes ”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””are as bad as they’ve ever been. It’s pretty easy to say that this thread has been an abject failure. (Just watch as some anons now switch to phone IPS to try booking the the IP list now that I’ve brought it up)
>>134238150I yam disgustipated
>>134231377Kill la kill is only known because of porn and so is my homo academia
Boy, this shit thread is going to take forever to die, huh?
>>134227467I make mine in power point
Why is Mary Marvel VS Sakura even a matchup and how has it been able to be the main topic for an entire threadAs a ryonafag just tell me how Mary Marvel dies and move on
>>134239812Impressive. Wasted on that fight, but impressive.
>>134239889Brown haired magical girls
>>134240048About as good as Shadow vs Ryuko.
>>134227354martian tech would get fucking wrecked by world war 2 technology, let alone an AT-ST, which are armored to resist blasters, and thus would not be affected by a heat ray.
>>134240446yes. The ewoks were able to damage the AT-STs by using high-mass projectile weapons, which the AT-STs were not armored against. As I said, AT-STs were armored to resist blasters, not high-mass projectiles like giant fuckoff logs.This is similar to the Thunderchild destroying 3 tripods by ramming them, after massed cannons did absolutely nothing to any of them.
Reminder they said this guy was equal to the Phoenix Force
>>134241007Apparently anyone can be equal to that PMSing bitch now going by Apoc wank.
>>134240490Erm, not quite accurate. Massed cannons were able to bring down one Tripod, but it required several to hit it simultaneously, which was difficult to do with how fast the things moved. The Thunderchild brought down one Tripod by ramming its legs. In the novel, it brought down a second after its ammo storage was hit, sending the front of the ship rocketing forward and slamming into a second tripod, with the third being destroyed by other ships. In the musical, the Thunderchild rammed one tripod and brought down another with cannon fire before being sunk.
>>134241173a valid point, anon.the musical is so fucking good.
>>134239812I feel like Zero Two wins this pretty easily. FRANXXs are taller than you think and I believe are slightly bigger than EVAs. Combine that with FRANXXs being way more maneuverable and having greater speed and weaponry, as well as Zero Two in general being a better pilot, and Asuka doesn’t stand much of a chance.
>>134241007the entire composite roster of the Quintessence would be a fart in the wind to the Phoenix Force
>>134239812Zero Two is for Rei, Asuka gets fed D. Va.
>>134241258Reminder the Phoenix’s best on panel feat is like 40 years old at this point
>>134232172He becomes a second Joker Undead and WILL destroy the world if he seals Hajime.
>>134239889These threads are magnets for obnoxious schizo retards spamming shit that no one cares about.
>>134240181There is a lot i would like to say to you about what you have said here but I think most everything I could say also comes up in the thread which really woke me up on the tripod's impressiveness. Also you talk about heat resistance as a factor but then consider that martian metal is used in the atmospheric entry and their whole main weapon is the HEAT ray. I think they're pretty well equipped to face some hot pew pew energy themselves.https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/martian-war-tripod-vs-t-34.737338/>>134241173It killed one fighting machine and achieved a mutual kill with the second by exploding at point-blank range. The third fighting machine was blasted by the approaching navy's gunline since thunderchild made that opportunity possible.Importantly, a part of why Thunder Child got close enough to do anything that it did was the Martians hadn't encountered a warship like it before since it was a torpedo ram https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_ram which is a novel/experimental ship idea at the time . Pretty dumb reason but it was a reason all the same for why they let that boat get close as it did. The same battle where the thunderchild stuff happens was where Tripods iirc were thoroughly trashing the royal navy off the coast.
New thread, move when needed. We'll see if it gets nuked, in which case someone will need to trojan horse some shit.>>134241523
>>134241258Ganthet alone rape-corrects your runaway bitch, cuh
>>134241457>saying this while ntire thread is SEETHING over OP and the tripfaglollmao, even