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Premieres tonight on Netflix @ 3AM EST. Crew have confirmed the show might come back if this does well enough.
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>>132216165
It’s so ugly tho
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>>132216165
I'm gonna watch it because I didn't actually hate the series, but I can't imagine this doing well enough to warrant another go at it.

The idea of time traveling Casey is pretty cowardly too. Should've just soldiered on and gave us fem Casey in her hockey mask.
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>>132216165
>might come back
Who are they trying to kid? They’ll be lucky to ever cameo in another version of the turtles.
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>>132216269
casey was meant to be introduced in season 3
fem casey only happened because they got cancelled
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>>132216165
It doesn't need to comeback, it just needs to deliver a good ending.
Sometimes it's good to let things finish when they should.

Could it have gone on longer? Sure, but we all should be thankful it got lucky to get a movie to wrap everything up. Some shows don't even get that much
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>>132216269
>>132216576
>fem casey only happened because they got cancelled
>Should've just soldiered on and gave us fem Casey in her hockey mask.
Apparently this Casey is fem Casey's grandson. I would've preferred they just kept Cassandra, but its sort of an interesting idea.
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>>132216165
No thanks.
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>>132216586
you're probably right but also this is the first time this studio has gotten any kind of recognition so no it shouldn't end.
at the very least 1 more season
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>>132216626
I honestly figured that was the case, that Casey would be related to Cassandra. Doesn't make it any less lame though. I didn't ask for fem Casey but you did it, so follow through.
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>>132216586
I only just now watched the trailer for the first time. It actually looks way better and more interesting than I expected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUnRU5-_zns
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think we'll see big mama again?
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>>132216681
I hope they at least mention Cassandra. She was one of my favorite parts of the show. It'd be weird to have her grandson and then just not mention her or the fact they have the same name at all. But IIRC Zelda said she didn't record any lines for the movie.

>>132216725
Don't think we'll see see Big Mama or Draxum. It's just not realistic, unfortunately.
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should I stay up or go to sleep to watch it?
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>>132216705
you fags came a long way from completely dismissing the show using only a thumbnail.
too late though since we arent getting anymore. and im sure you will repeat your behavior the next time a new show comes out and all you have is a thumbnail.
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>>132216819
>You fags
I was sold from the first episode and made a bulk of the live threads for it when it was airing. But I have seen significant turnaround across social media. Like a month after it was cancelled idiots who dismissed it from the jump started talking about how its "not that bad actually" and "underrated". Annoying, but to be expected.
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>>132216777
I'm gonna stay up. It looks like it might be the best TMNT movie yet.
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>>132216751
I can see Big Mama not being a factor but Draxum was considered as part of the family as anyone else was by the time of the finale.

Fuck me, I think I'm actually going to be kind of pissed if Draxum doesn't at least get a mention.
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>>132216924
I don't know. TMNT 1990 and 2007 exist
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>>132216165
>show might come back if it does well
So it's going to stay dead
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>>132216165
Glad of not paying for Netflix right now.
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>>132216960
Still haven't seen 2007. This looks like it could be slightly better than 1990, or at least, just as good. The Krang Terminator angle is really interesting to me.
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>>132216941
I have no idea, dude. I saw a screenshot weeks ago that looked like April was getting ready for college. So this movie might take place after a timeskip of some sort. Which would make the turtles now... 17 - 15, I think.
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>>132217095
If the reason is legitimate then whatever. I guess a time skip would justify how certain characters wouldn't make an appearance.

It just sucks because if this is your potentially last hurrah then why are you wasting it on not involving characters that made your series unique?
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>>132216165
We better get some good stuff and actual surprises in the movie.
They also better add a scene with a semi, or totally naked Casey Jones, because fuck we haven't gotten some candy for men since quite a while (at least in non-Netflix shows)
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>>132217135
>It just sucks because if this is your potentially last hurrah then why are you wasting it on not involving characters that made your series unique?
The movie was greenlit and put into production before the series was cancelled and I think the idea was always to make it in a way where you don't need to have actually seen the show to be able to watch it. So casual TMNT fans can just jump right in...
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>>132217217
It's probably best to lower your expectations suprise-wise. I'm not expecting to see most of the new characters from the series. Or anything tying up loose ends. I just hope its good.
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>>132217269
Were there any loose ends to tie up by the second season? I agree though, I hope it's good.
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I better get some Draxum action
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>>132217303
>Were there any loose ends to tie up by the second season?
There was Big Mama's secret soldier girl, if that counts. I'd love it if we got to see Karai again but I don't think its likely.
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He's in
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>>132217343
secret solider girl? I don't recall her at all.

Karai I'd be fine with not seeing again, though she was a fun power up for April. If anything it makes me interested in seeing how they involve her in the action now that she's not there to carry her.
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>>132217355
Wouldn't even be mad
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>>132217320
Only confirmed cast from the IMDb page so far. The trailer at least confirms Rhys Darby is back as Hypno-Potamus.
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>>132217379
>secret solider girl? I don't recall her at all.
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>>132217445
I literally do not remember this episode. And that's a female?
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>>132217445
When did we get confirmation on the sex? I know we got a name but damn if I can remember it.
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>>132216165
Seth Rogen is such a fucking faggot hack. Apparently his TMNT movie comes out a year from today.
https://twitter.com/Sethrogen/status/1555292323181101056?s=20&t=-DPG7z7xBEEYyhzjWxz8EA
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Fuck yeah
I'm not signed up for netflix for it though
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>>132217472
It was the first episode of S2, and yes.
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>>132217555
Huh. I guess it's because she only showed up for like, a single second, but I never noticed she had all those turtle-like design elements
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>>132216268
They still looks like Frogs ....
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>>132217580
I think it was a popular fan theory that she was a new version of Venus.
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>>132217619
With claws like those she could have been Slash as well
Though of course, girl-Casey and girl-Slash? /co/ would have had a meltdown
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I can't fucking stand it. Every cartoon I love like this and Mao Mao and Wander get shitcanned by networks and doomed to slow and bitter threads here while cartoons I can't fucking stand get 12 more seasons because they trended on Twitter for 2 minutes.
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Cookies from the premiere at Nick.
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>>132217662
You need to stop liking action show.
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>>132217699
I'm gonna miss Rise Donnie. You just know every Donnie going forward is going to be a socially awkward boring nerd like 2012 and not an arrogant narcissist
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>>132217725
The idea of all these characters going back to their status quo selves is definitely depressing.
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>>132217646
>girl-Slash

Now I'm mad that we didn't get to see that. I always thought that one creature was supposed to be the Rise version of Slash though. He was called "Fraken-Foot" right?
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>>132217790
Franken-Foot was just one of those paper ninjas they got to switch sides wasn't he? Not really in the same vein of Slash who is "also a turtle mutant but meaner"
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>>132217646
Does anyone care that much about Slash anyway?
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>>132217849
Do you know where you are? They don't need to care about the character to get outraged about a gender swap
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>>132217755
The default for TMNT is
leo = leader,
raph = angry,
don= smart,
mic = funny,
and april = girl.
Leo was technically the only major change.
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>>132217828

He was, he just seemed monstrous enough that I figured that was Rise's representation of Slash is all. I guess Piebald would be more qualified. Sucks we didn't get to see her in more episodes she was freaking hilarious.
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>>132217865
There are many different ways to do "smart" or any of those other character traits though. Like literally the example we were talking about, Donnie
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>>132217874
Piebald was great. Honestly disappointing she didn't turn up in the finale, she was essentially a member of the family too
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>>132217916
>"You know what a scream sounds like underwater?"

>"Bblbblbblbblbblbllbbll~"

One of the best lines I heard on that show. Aside from John Cena singing as Draxum.
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>>132217865
Rise Raph wasn't very angry. And Leo didn't change at all if you consider "leader" as a set of traits rather than a role. I've said this many times before, but I love how Rise took the basic archetypes these characters are known for and took them in a different direction while staying true to their roots.

>>132217916
God I really LOVED Piebald. I hate when they try to give the turtles another sibling but them having a sort of estranged older half-sister who wasn't a turtle was such a fun idea.
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>>132216165
I the movie going to be connected to the show?
I've only watched like 75% of season 1 years ago but I still really want to watch the movie.
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>>132218106
It's a direct sequel to the show, yeah
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>>132218106
>I the movie going to be connected to the show?
Can't say for sure, but probably not.
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>>132218105
rise raph got angry by the team a lot, Leo characterization in general is a boring leader who was always in the right. I'm not sure if leo fans even exist.
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>>132216626
>fem casey's grandson
the future is set in 2044 how is 20 years enough time to have a kid and a grandkid when fem casey is only like 15-16
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>>132218665
Guess we'll find out in about two hours.
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>>132216165
Much much much better and more popular shows have said "with enough fan support, we can come back!" They're not resurrected a version of TMNT that already showed itself to be a disappointment. Hell, the showrunner for 2012 has been trying to get a movie to wrap up that show's loose ends for YEARS now, and he has nothing to show for it despite his version of the show being more popular.

Rise is fucking dead. Sit in your failure. Sit in it.
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>>132218665
>when fem casey is only like 15-16
I thought she was like 18? And the turtles like much older in that clip then they'd be in 2044, where'd you get that from?

>>132218942
Gonna watch Psycho II in the mean time I think
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>>132218961
Not this fucking autist again
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>>132216165
Is Casey suddenly a dude again?
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>>132218961
>despite his version of the show being more popular
But much more shit, hence no movie
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>>132218961
ok but this got a movie and 2012 didn't so cope nigger
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This flick 100% going to do Raph dirty so fuck it
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>>132219027
It's female Casey's grandson, apparently.
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>>132218961
We need to stop letting unmedicated schizos post on this site.
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>>132219290
90% of the userbase would be good
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>>132219304
I fail to see the issue
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>>132219136
Why would it do Raph dirty?
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I'm honestly way more excited for this than I realized I can't wait
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>>132218985
from the first four minute preview
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>>132219069
>This got a movie
The show was announced. Basically as it dropped they signed a contract for a second season and a movie. Then the ratings nosedived and it didn't get any more renewals. In comparison, 2012 got renewed 4 times. Because there was consistent demand, as opposed to Rise which lost demand once the show, y'know... started airing.
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>>132220082
oh. I don't know what to say then. Maybe the grandson thing was just speculation.
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>>132220205
cope, no movie
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Do you like rises artstyle?
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>>132220303
Hell yeah
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>>132220244
Nope. Just a running time of around 44 hours.
But you're treating this as a competition. I'm saying that the fact that 2012 couldn't come back from the dead is pretty damn good evidence that Rise's goose is not getting uncooked. Animation is being axed left and right, you really think they're going to go "oh shoot, maybe we made a bad call, let's give this plucky underdog another shot!"
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>>132216165
Ugly ass early 2000 cartoon design, black April, wtf is this shit ?

No wonder Netflix shut down their animation department.
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>>132220338
It wasn't by Netflix's animation department, it was made by Nick who signed a deal to let Netflix show it.

But yes, ugly as sin.
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>>132220310
I'm not treating it as a competition, you, or the anon I replied to if you're not him came in bitching about how rise sucked so cope, 2012 got no movie.
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>fun comedy/action show
>good character designs, angular/non-"calarts"
>top tier animation during action scenes
>use of dynamic angles even in non-action scenes
>all for televised animation

Yet /co/ will still shit on this version of TMNT more than any other with the most frequent critique being that the brothers are all too silly and April is black.
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>>132220450
Rise sucked and the movie was part of the deal they got before the ratings started coming in. Enjoy it, because you're not getting a minute more.

>>132220488
April being black would probably get less attention if the writers had bothered to expand on her character enough to provide other things to talk about. No origin, very little in personality, shows up in less than half of the episodes even if you count the ones where she only had a brief cameo. If you don't flesh a character out, then yeah, don't be surprised that what gets attention is the shallow "This makes our April different!" visual tweak.
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>>132220552
cope, no movie
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>>132220556
Yeeeeeeeah, I'd prefer the 44 hour running time to a 16 hour running time that includes a movie.
Again though... not a competition.
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>>132220488
The Brothers were depicted as incompetent morons for the majority of the series until it was convenient for the plot to happen. The final two episodes depict the turtles as overpowered as fuck, getting an anime power up, with even April getting said power up, even counting Karai shenanigans. Cassandra Jones needs to be a good guy in the finale out of nowhere, because they wanted to do something different with Casey. April being black was something that got immediate blowback. Even news articles and websites tried to change the narrative that April was always black, but her first appearance in issue 2 and her first cover in issue 11, not to mention various interviews, settle that she was always meant to be a caucasian woman. Black April was made for woke points and to be different. Rise has its great moments even for TMNT, but the negativity just held it down too much.
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>>132220488
>and April is black.
Character design is practically as iconic as the Turtles themselves.

Turn her black and unrecognizable, like why ?
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Well it's here. Gonna miss these dudes. This will forever be my favorite incarnations of these turtles. See you in the next reboot my brothers.
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>>132220674
>Character design is practically as iconic as the Turtles themselves
Huh? Of all characters in the series April has possibly had the least consistent character design. What the fuck are you talking about?
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The basic problem with Rise of the TMNT is that it wants to tell a very different version of the Turtles storywise, with a radical departure in terms of their origin (there's mystical monsters in hiding and one created mutants to raise an army), and major changes to who Splinter, April, Shredder, and the Foot are.

AND it wants to be very different in terms of tone and storytelling. Emphasizing goofy gifable comedy, with no hard rules about the world the turtles live in. Do humans even care about mutants? Are they bothered by the sight of an animal person? You get a different answer depending on which episode you watch. In some eps getting mutated means the end of your old life. In other eps... it's no biggy, just carry on regardless. You can be reduced to living in hiding, in the sewers, your old life destroyed like Worm Reporter or Chef Cannibal... or you can just own a business on the edge of town and carry on as if nothing happened, like Repo Mantis or Todd Capybara. Hell, those mutant girls went on to do music gigs.

People might have accepted a TMNT that kept the characters and setting similar to what we knew before, but with a more jokey tone. People might have accepted a TMNT that kept a tone similar to 2003/2012, but with radical changes to the setting and characters.

A big change in story OR tone might have worked. Doing both at once was always going to be destined for failure.
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>hour and half runtime
>leo's bleeding out to death
>casey's fucking sick hockey stick chainsaw
>leo says badass
>mikey kills himself opening a hole in the space time continuum
>leo dies in an explosion saving casey
>all in the first 5 minutes
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>We lost Ninjago for this shit
Worst timeline.
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I can't get Netflix to load
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>>132220338
>Ugly ass early 2000 cartoon design
Have you seen 2k3 turtles? That show is ugly as sin.
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>>132220719
She's been a hot redhead in every cartoon up until now.
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>>132220636
>Cassandra Jones needs to be a good guy in the finale out of nowhere, because they wanted to do something different with Casey.
They just wanted to wrap things up since they only got 2 seasons.
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>>132220859
What did you think I meant with 'early 2000' design ?
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>>132220737
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>>132220674
>>132220552
>>132220338
Why the fuck are you retards in here complaining? Every thread. You assholes come in talking about why the show "doesn't work" or what was "wrong" with it. It obviously works otherwise we wouldn't be here enjoying it and being fans of it. Nobody cares that you don't like Rise.
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>>132216165
>Leo says a swear word
Wtf
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>>132220909
>107 replies, 27 posters
You need us here else this thread would be dead
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>>132220909
>It obviously works and that's why it got canceled!
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>>132220737
>and major changes to who Splinter
As opposed to Splinter either being just a mutated pet rat or actually Yoshi himself? Is that just a minor change?
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>>132220930
THEN LET IT DIE YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
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>>132220925
You weren't kidding. What the fuck. Leo actually curses two minutes into this movie.
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>>132220943
No, I readily agree that the 80s show making him actually-Hoshi was a huge change. One of many made in that adaptation that became cemented in the public. The very popular movie introduced the general public to what he was in the original mirage. And from the 90s onward, that was more or less Splinter - either a noble ninja that got mutated into a rat, or the pet of a noble ninja.

"Actually Splinter was a movie star and a bit of an egotistical jackass (with a heart of gold)" is a pretty big departure from what the public had come to expect over the decades. A departure that might have been successful in a show that changed less. Big changes in story or big changes in tone, either one might had had a decent chance. Both at once was just not a recipe for success.
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>>132220989
>That's a curseword
Damn, zoomers are mollycoddled as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruGxIZkK0eg
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>>132220990
>Both at once was just not a recipe for success
It quite literally wasn't for the 80s show though
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>>132221000
Dude they said "ass" on a kid's show are you dumb
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>>132221025
Ass isn't a curse word you fucking baby
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>Mikey just fucking dies
Anyway, Haley Joel Osment Casey Jones is a vast improvement over Josh Peck, but I still miss Cassandra.
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>>132221058
>t. socially retarded
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>>132221072
>t. american
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>>132221078
oh that explains it. you should kill yourself.
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Damn this movie genuinely has nothing to do with the show. It's like they reset the characterization from zero.
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>>132217865
>raph = angry,

I've been watching clips of the '87 series recently, and Raph is DEFINITELY not the 'angry' one, despite him being supposed to be. HE'S the 'funny' one. He's the guy making deliberate quips, and jokes.
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>>132220859
>That show is ugly as sin.

...How? It looks great.
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>>132221006
The 80s show didn't depart from public perception because there WAS no public perception.

There's a difference between the version to get widely known by the public (or even the second version) and being version #8 or so, which showed up after decades of people becoming used to certain takes. Rise flew in the face of a lot of expectations, and as a result people were turned off.
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>>132221130
Take your nostalgia goggles off you goddamn fucking retard.
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>>132221143
Glasses are off, motherfucker. Show looked fantastic, and had some great animation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5B_zsUpBZo
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>>132221025
Oh wow. They said ass in a kids show. That's so epic. My goodness.

Here Zoomer, have the Russian Names Song. THIS is an impressive thing to get into a kids' show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K46McMq9IF4
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>>132221165
Can you fuck off already?
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>>132221175
>Didn't even listen
Fucking Zoomers.
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>>132221094
I do think Leo got a big head since becoming a Leader, but Raph is still best turtle in the show. I'm glad they didn't just let him take a back seat when it comes to Leo's leading skills, and he still takes charge.
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>>132216165
>woke shit
no thanks
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>>132221184
I'm 20 minutes in. It doesn't seem at all like Leo is supposed to be the leader in this movie, Raph literally says "I'm responsible". I also feel like Leo wasn't THIS irresponsible in the series. Idk, its weird. I didn't expect the movie to take place after the series finale but I wasn't expecting it to be this far back. It feels like this was supposed to come out right after S1. And its also sort of undermining/retconning the finale.
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Why is the animation worse here than in the series?
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>>132221233
I don't think a different studio did the animation for the movie instead of Flying Bark if I remember.
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>>132216165
Gonna watch it even though I haven’t finished
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I am not going to watch it because the turtles look like frogs and also specifically because they raceswapped April. Checkmate.
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>>132221374
The budget must have gone down too.
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I enjoyed it. Some of the development was kind of shoddy, but the emotional moments still worked and got me teary eyed. Raph really cementing himself as best boy, even if he was out of commission due to the capture.
I hope it doesn't have to end here, and that by some miracle they get to continue the series now that Casey is properly included.
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>>132216165
Unironically if April wasn't a nigger it would've done better
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>>132221175
He won't. He's an obnoxious parasite on every thread he enters. He's spamming that one analog horror thread that's up as well and probably a bunch of others.

I wish he'd just do like Boco and get a trip already so I could filter him.
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>>132216165
I'm so glad they fucking used the real casey jones and not the black washed dyke jones
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>>132221558
Cassandra wasn’t black you fucking retard
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>>132221538
What makes you think it’s just one guy? Everybody on this board is an asshole who should kill themselves. It’s been 4 years since Ride came out and braindead tards still feel the need to shit up threads by telling us how much they don’t like it and how they’re never gonna watch it.
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Autistic losers have been bitching in Rise threads for 4 fucking years now
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>>132221611
There's probably a couple, but there's one retard in specific who feels the need to preface all of his posts with incoherent rants about "Zoomers" or calling anyone who makes a thread about a thing that they like the creator of said thing. He's gotten increasingly blatant these past few weeks and it makes it easy to tell when he's posting in a thread.
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Thought it was pretty fucking awesome. Greatly enjoyed it, huge eye candy
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>>132221635
>There's probably a couple, but there's one retard in specific who feels the need to preface all of his posts with incoherent rants about "Zoomers"
>or calling anyone who makes a thread about a thing that they like the creator of said thing.
That sounds like everybody on /co/ and /tv/, to be honest.
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>>132221538
>He's spamming that one analog horror thread
...I'm doing what now?
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>Risefags coping again.
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>>132221657
How is it coping to want to be left alone? Go be a faggot somewhere else.
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>>132221637
Well that was... a bit of a letdown? I enjoyed The Sea Beast more, and went into that one with much lower expectations. I honestly don't know what happened but this didn't feel like it was made by the same people as the show. This felt like it was done by the understudies. Maybe I'm just jaded now. Anyone else feel that way?
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>>132221661
Turns out, it's easy to get a rise outta Risefags
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>>132221684
>le epic trolling im a troll le im retarded on purpose im a fucking faggot for fun
just kill yourself.
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>>132221678
I liked it alot. The krang were extremely threatening and cool villains.
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>>132221678
Just finished it and I feel the exact same way. This movie was such a letdown. I expected it to have little to do with the series proper, but this was all over the place. And so short... we waited how many years for an hour and 16 minute movie with subpar animation? What was the point? I'm just gonna pretend this movie doesn't exist.
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>>132221678
>but this didn't feel like it was made by the same people as the show.
I thought the opposite, I was expecting something different but it had a strong vibe of the show.
Which I wasn't entirely a fan of, but that's okay.
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I thought it was pretty good. Background and animation were pretty smooth. I do get what people are talking about, about how the animation feels different from the series. I looked at the credits and it seemed like there were multiple animation studios working on it, so I wonder if that's the reason why. There weren't a lot of big, over the top fight scenes like in the series, but the action was still pretty solid, especially the fight around the end with Krang.


The Krang felt threatening, although I wish we got more time with them in their Mecha suit. I guess there's only one Krang left on earth since the other died on the space ship?

I do think they sort of soft-reset Leo's characterization a little. It works for the story, but I can't help but feel a bit disappointed he had to take a step back for it to happen. On the other hand, I enjoyed Raph a lot. Even though he wasn't in the movie as much as the others, I do think the scenes he got were the best in the movie.

So yeah, I'm not mad staying up to watch it.
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>>132216819
gotta admit i had to do a 180 on this one
not even a fan of the IP, the image just didn't hook me.
thank god i stuck around
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>>132216819
I dismissed it after trying 3 times, thank you very much.
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>>132221700
I do like that they stayed threatening for the entirety of the movie. I recall that Shredder had a few humorous moments with the turtles when he was still in his mindless phase that were played for laughs. The Krang were pretty much serious from start to finish.
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>>132221733
>So yeah, I'm not mad staying up to watch it.
I'm just glad I watched a much better movie first. I might've been madder had I waited till tomorrow.
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>>132221768
I think the series finale was a much better send off for the show, but I didn't find the movie bad at all.
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>>132216165
Kino of the highest order
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When the head Krang was just beating the hell out of Leo in the void I was on edge, movie definitely took advantage of being on Netflix imo
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>>132221788
The characterization and stand alone-ness was just way too much for me to bear. They even changed the background characters. The reporter we saw on the news talking about was not the regular reporter we saw in the series. And Draxum not being there is so nonsensical. It took them until the very end of the movie to acknowledge the Cassandra Jones thing instead of right after Casey introduced himself looking, acting, and having the same name as his mother -- who they all know. And it didn't make sense she wasn't in the movie either.

There were parts of the movie I did like but all of that seriously ruined it for me.
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>>132221817
>no future Raph or Donnie
That’s the only thing I wished the movie did
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>>132221839
They were dead, future leo had purple and red headbands tied around his sword
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>>132221836
Yeah, I also found it strange how Casey and Draxum especially were missing from the movie. I'm guessing since the movie is a Netflix exclusive, and they want to keep the stand-alone nature of the film, they avoid showcasing too many characters that people wouldn't immediately recognize. Splinter's presence in the film is also greatly reduced to how it is in the tv show. I get not wanting to bloat the movie with too many characters, but that part of it is sad that it had to be cut.
I was expecting at least one scene where they go to the mystic realm to see what was up with their mystic powers before rescuing Raph, but that might upped the run time. If the movie was the season 3 plot line it probably would've worked a lot smoother.


It does feel like the writing was meant to get newcomers drawn into the series, which would explain some of the choices with the characters.
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Mega when?
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>>132221881
>It does feel like the writing was meant to get newcomers drawn into the series
I'm certain it was, I just didn't expect it to be done so egregiously. Even the horse show movie wasn't as bad about it, and it was pretty bad about it. I think what made it so jarring in this movie is that there's moments where the characters actually do act like themselves just for them to suddenly not to whenever it actually matters. It does seem like some people are blind watching this though and enjoying it, so go figure.
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>>132221950
It's on rarbg grab it while hot
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>>132221950
its on RARBG
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>>132221846
Most movies with post apocalyptic futures have a flash back of the heroes last stand
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>>132221846
I was wondering if Future!Leo's arm was Raph's. And then they do that foreshadowing(preshadowing?) with Leo accidentally cutting off Raph's arm.
But nothing happened.
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why did i want to fuck this
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Currently at work. I just need to know one thing
Is big mama in it?
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>>132221992
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
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>>132222014
No, small cast few side characters
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>JP VA
Rise Leo is Joker(Persona 5).
Rise Raph is All Might(MHA).
Rise Donnie is Jonathan Joestar(JoJo).
Rise Mikey is Mikado Ryugamine(Durarara).
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>>132222028
Fuck
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Blood & cussing? Casey with a chainsaw? Leo missing an arm? Maybe I'm reaching but it seems like somebody on the creative team is a vol.3 fan.
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Anyone else catch the little Bebop and Rocksteady cameo here?
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foot lieutenant my favorite recurring bit villain i'll miss you even if no one else will.
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>>132222155
I did not catch that. Good eye.
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>>132221501
>properly

Fuck that shit, If the series keeps going I want Cassandra to roll through with her mask and armor dammit.
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>>132222209
Nothing to say they won't make it work with her and her son.
But FutureCasey likely wouldn't be going anywhere
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>>132217217
Damn femanon you thirsty.
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>>132221733
I really like Rise Leo is a trickster.
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He was REALLY beating him up
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>>132222225
>But FutureCasey likely wouldn't be going anywhere
I was confused when the movie ended with him still being there. Shouldn't he have disappeared since his future changed completely?
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So with Rise over, if we scaled Leonardo to his Rise counterpart, do you think Leo could beat him?

At least if anything I don’t think Jason could touch Leo and Rise Leo could survive that beating with Krang.
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>>132222447
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Pretty fun movie, lot of great moments and action.
I'm gonna have to knock a point off though for not even mentioning Draxum
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Just like the SU movie, checked out the movie of a series I've literally never watched before this point

I liked the characters and the style. It wasn't like, revelatory, a lot of the actual character DEVELOPMENT was pretty weak. wasn't perfect, but it was charming for a thing that's definitely aiming for kids
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>>132222294
I've heard a lot of people compare Rise Leo to Dante, is there more of that in the show? In the movie because it's mostly about him learning ~teamwork~ there's a bit too much of that sorta childish earnestness for him to give off the vibe
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>>132221992
Is that the trigger pose?
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>>132222538
The SU movie was very good for a movie that literally resets the development of its main characters. This was not, but if you liked the characters and style you should definitely try the series -- its the same thing but better.
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Despite how disappointed I was with this and how much I wanted to see Cassandra again instead, I really liked their take on Casey.
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>>132220687
Same here. This show was too good for this world. We will never have another great version of TMNT like this.

>>132222477
I also enjoyed the movie. No wonder why Draxum wasn't in this movie because John Cena is expensive. At least Cassandra has a small cameo at the movie's end.
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>>132222697
John Cena hasn't been doing the voice of Draxum for a while now
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>>132222711
Exactly.
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>>132222726
No I mean, he wasn't Draxum for like half the show. And even if he was, Draxum didn't need a speaking part to at least get a mention, Cass managed it
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>>132222735
Yeah, that makes sense.
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Fuck I loved the krang in this. The train beast is a favorite monster design for the year.
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>>132222781
They were definitely very cool. Fun take on the whole "alien wearing a scary armored suit" thing from '03 as well
Looks like they had some real fucking big ones too. Good thing they died while they were trapped I guess!
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>>132216165
That was fucking badass but it upsets me how little Splinter did. Thinking back on it every character got a chance to shine (Leo, Casey and Raph are the core of the movie, Donnie became a spaceship, Mikey saved Leo, April stopped one Kraang) but Splinter is just…there
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>>132222781
They’re like General Grievous from the 2003 cartoon where they’re cool looking but don’t have lots of character.
I do like that the turtles didn’t even kill them, they just had to lock them up somehow.
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>>132222697
So glad we got to see her again
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So what was up with the dead Krang that had the mutant ooze in the finale? I kept waiting to see if it was one of the three that somehow got stucked in secret NY in the loooong past or something but that never really came about

also too bad they didn't use Cassandra in the movie. I get not wanting to bloat it with too many characters like people said before but come on, you have the hippo and the worm but not her?
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>>132221726
>subpar animation
You did not see the same movie as the rest of us
>>132221726
It did get fucked over by Nick so obviously it would end up being kind of messy trying to be available to everyone while also being about Rise, but whatever it was still cool
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>>132223287
They could sneak in Hypno and Warren because they only serve as villains who deliver a package (and I’m glad they didn’t die) but they couldn’t put Cassandra a lot because they’re trying to make it open for everyone. It is a shame but it is what it is.
Also, the creators already stated the movie was written under different plans for the overall story and just committed to it while inserting some minor things (like saying they defeated Shredder and are friends with Cassandra) to connect the continuity. But you can see the differences when nobody mentions Hamato Ninpo, or the Hidden City
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>>132216165
Saw abit of this today

>april is a hideous nig
>casey is a shaved headed angry dyke
>splinter is a fat hamster doing a racist chinese impression
>the turtles are annoying
>the animation is the worst I've seen in years

Fuck this shit. Cancel it now. Wtf did they do to casey and April?
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>>132223352
Thanks for the bump idiot
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>>132223370
It's my fault your either a retarded child, easily satisfied or a Nintendo switch owner?
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>>132223321
>but they couldn’t put Cassandra a lot because they’re trying to make it open for everyone.
Sure, but it's not like they're getting to do any more with the show after this. It's delusional to think Nickelodeon of all companies will renew the contract for more at this point regardless of how good it is, so why not make it a good sendoff since the finale was pretty rushed?

>Also, the creators already stated the movie was written under different plans for the overall story and just committed to it while inserting some minor things (like saying they defeated Shredder and are friends with Cassandra) to connect the continuity. But you can see the differences when nobody mentions Hamato Ninpo, or the Hidden City
Ehh to be fair it's not like HC was that relevant to the plot, it was either rescue Ralph or get the key for most of the runtime so besides asking for help from other characters there was not much to do there. It is pretty weird no one mentions Hamato Ninpo though.

I just find it weird that the explicitedly had a Krang corpse hanging around the thing that's pretty much responsible for the entire show yet they didn't even explain how it got there in the first place. Like just have one shot in that flashback referencing the goo or the place or something, that'd do it.
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>132223374
Keep bumping the thread idiot
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>>132223377
>so why not make it a good sendoff since the finale was pretty rushed?
The official word is that if the movie does good they can continue the show. You’re right that it’s delusional to think that, but if you are in the position of heading this movie, wouldn’t you rather give it a chance? Even if there’s only 1% of a chance then you might as well do it for the sake of the series. And if the movie does good, it probably will be because they made it open. Rise S2 isn’t even in Netflix yet so the movie would have been exclusively for Rise fans and nobody else. Any success this movie could have does depend on that decision.
> I just find it weird that the explicitedly had a Krang corpse hanging around the thing that's pretty much responsible for the entire show yet they didn't even explain how it got there in the first place. Like just have one shot in that flashback referencing the goo or the place or something, that'd do it.
I’m sure if we asked the writers on twitter they’ll answer but yeah, they should have explained it. Then again it might be some deep lore shit and they chose to kept it simple for the audience. Bad aliens locked up is more easy to understand than "giant corpse of an aliens armor bled for eternity and created mystical creatures while teleporting his consciousness into Shredder"
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>>132222595
Meh I would say the SU movie wastes too much time on singing about past character development and Spinel is overrated as hell. This one I feel fits Leo's character since he never did get over his massive ego in the show but did in the movie
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>>132223463
Oh I didn't know there was an official word, that's pretty neat. I still think nothing will happen but eh, if they even bothered saying that I guess it's a good sign.
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>>132223648
One interview said they had plans for a Rat King movie so they could at least do that. The future of TMNT is gonna be dependent on Seth Rogen but he seems to want to make films, not series. I would say any chance Rise has depends on the lack of animated series airing and Nick needing at least one show running.
They could also just release the other shorts they never aired and are finished or complete the lost episodes. It honestly wouldn’t cost them that much, especially the shorts they can literally just upload it right now at zero cost.
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>>132221120
Raph in 87 was the sassy one. But he's the outlier for that one as all the other incarnations (including comics) play up the anger/aggression.
Which is why him and Casey typically bond because of their viewpoints on how to handle villains.
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>>132221515
No Turtles?
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>>132223287
looks like he was part of the invasion and got killed/trapped separately from the technodrome.
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>>132216165
>causes the apocalpyse
He truly was their greatest foe
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>>132222325
Hopefully if this does decently and the recent surge of adult animation that isn't Family Goy/Rick and Morty knock offs taking off, Nick might finally commission an "adult" TMNT cartoon for Paramount+
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>>132223801
holy shit I see it now lol
>>132223781
Yeah it's funny how people always assume Raph has to be the angry one when he was pretty goofy on the original series that everyone loved
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>>132221657
based Evolt
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my biggest misgiving narratively in the movie is that they didint get more of the poisons that shown to be effective against the Krang
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>>132222325
Probably the most violent TMNT movie since the original
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The FPS scene was the best scene of the movie
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I really enjoyed the callback to Mikey throwing a ship against Shredder, Also the way the Krang 1 mech resembling the shredder armor.

Krang was vicious as fuck and Krang 2 staying on Earth does open up a possibility for continuation.

I liked it overall and I actually would want to see another try at the Rise continuity if they would change the format to proper 20 min eps
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>>132223996
>I really enjoyed the callback to Mikey throwing a ship against Shredder,
He's lowkey the strongest turtle and I'm sure they would have done something about that in the later seasons.
>Krang was vicious as fuck and Krang 2 staying on Earth does open up a possibility for continuation.
Bishop showed up at the end too
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>people still mad Rise Casey isn't in the movie
I love to see it
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>>132224068
she is, shes future casey's mom
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>>132224184
I meant as a full character, I love seeing people care so much about her
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>TMNT boomers seething on twitter
Cry about it bitches
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>>132221647
Yeah, when almost every poster on this dogshit board looks and gets indistinguishably from the worst shitposters and schizos, you KNOW you're fucked.
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>>132220082
The ending literally says its his mom
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Did anyone hear a Goongala at any point ?
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>>132224799
Sadly I don’t think so but I think Cassandra did a Casey pose at the end
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>>132224833
Im watching through with Subs now. Seems like such a easy thing to put in!
Especially would have worked with the Grappled Rocket at Apache part!
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>zero yokai
Feels weird, man. I feel like we need another movie just for them.
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>Casey dyke this Casey dyke that
The only gays in this show are a hippo and a worm
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>>132225201
Same, I will assume all the yokai were in full quarantine mode to escape the Kraang and maybe they allowed Draxum to stay just this one time.
I do understand why Draxum isn’t there but looking back he really was a crucial part of the show’s story
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>>132224969
Well they did fuck up in the Hot Soup subs so they’re kinda dumb anyways
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>>132225201
Same, I know they had to concentrate the movie on just the kraang but the yokai/mystic aspect was the number one thing I loved about this iteration and the hidden city eps were my faves too
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>>132216819
Good. Liking shit is stupid; Rise was awful.
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>>132216819
>and im sure you will repeat your behavior the next time a new show comes out and all you have is a thumbnail.
people are already hating the Seth Green version. There's always people like this loser >>132225325 around
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>>132216165
This is my favorite iteration of the turtles bar none.
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>>132225451
>people are already hating the Seth Green version.
Hehe. Just imagine 10 more years of rise?
I mean the show can work like an ideal umbrella for any type of stories.
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>>132225451
>people are already hating the Seth Green version
Seth Rogan actually, so the hate is warranted
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>>132220082
Damn, Mikey aged like shit then.
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>>132225722
>Hehe. Just imagine 10 more years of rise?
would be better
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>>132218665
pretty sure by the present time in the movie both Cassandra and April are 18. Cassandra might be even older but April has to be at least 18 to go to college.
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>>132225905
>>132218665
He says "mom" when April shows pictures of Cassandra at the end
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>>132216268
>TMNT!
>But this time, black coded!
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>>132226580
You're thinking of the bay turtles
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>20 mintues into the movie
>raph and leo start arguing

I hate how rise is adopting this basic TMNT trope.
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The movie was actually pretty good. The animation wasn't as sharp as in the TV series, but the action scene at the end was still pretty good and it still looks better than pretty much every other action cartoon other than Primal.
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>>132226638
I don't get why Rise fans don't want basic elements of the franchise in it.
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>>132226638
Even then the reasons why are not the same as before. Raph was right this time.
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>>132226778
technically it didn't exist in the original just like angry raph.
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>>132226778
Why does Raph and Leo fighting need to be a basic element? Does Raph need to be angry all the time just because he was a hothead in the first live action movie?
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does netflix have season 2 of rise too?
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>>132226841
>>132226888
Raph has been the angry one who argues with Leo since his solo issue in 85. Before the cartoon, before the movie. You can change the context and relationship of their bickering, but having them at odds in some way is just natural.

Its like Starscream in Transformers; unless theres a circumstance like being a zombie, he's always going to be at odds with Megatron in any decent portrayal. It might be for egotistical reasons. It might be different approaches. It might be spite. But there's something.
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I figured I'd give this show a second chance before watching the movie, and I'll admit it.
I misjudged it and I'm sorry for shitting on it

The show has more in-common with the rest of the rest of the franchise than it initially seemed

Most notabley being Raph was never the real leader, it was always Leo despite what literally everything else said
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>>132226944
sadly no but hopefully they put it up eventually
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>>132216165
>Crew have confirmed the show might come back if this does well enough.
Wasn't a new series already announced?
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>>132228023
Yes but I found it weird how the movie didn't call Leo the leader. He obviously is but nobody says that word.
I was also waiting for Splinter's explanation as to why he made him the leader but he never said it.
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>>132228085
In one of the episodes Leo had a plan to get Big Momma's help to contain Shredder after he was awakened. Ultimately, Leo's plan worked after Splinter constantly worried endlessly through the episode. The movie is (mostly) about Leo coming into his own as leader. Its not called Rise for nothing.
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>>132228083
There are no new series announced, only films. Mutant Mayhem is coming out next year and it's done by Seth Rogen and the Mitchells VS Machinse dude, and there's spinoff movies focused on villains on the work. No news on any animated series airing on TV.
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>>132216165
I respect the animation for this but goddamn do I still hate the designs and concepts of it.
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>>132226888
I would like to see more Raph and Donnie fighting. Donnie doesn't have to be a loser nerd or mad scientist. He can be a harsh perfectionist.
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Apparently Andy Suriano's discord has behind the scenes details so go there if you wanna find out about some cool stuff
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>>132226997
The promblem is Raph always acted like Wolverine. There are other same angry, tough guy character better than Wolverine.
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>>132229463
Seems like they're changing that a bit, I hear apparently even the Seth Rogen movie isn't making him just the angry dude.
I just think it's funny everyone loves the 87 version but then complain when Raph isn't an angry jerk 24/7 when the cartoon they grew up with didn't have him be that either. He was more like Yakko Warner
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So sad we're going back to 87 wank after this
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>Crew have confirmed the show might come back if this does well enough.
I love to see children fall into the despair of their false hopes.

also, pizza without pepperoni? fuck the animals, i like my pizza with a lot of meat.
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>>132230704
cheese pizza is quite popular among women and I find it distressing
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Just a reminder, Casey didn't disappear because timelines are fixed and can only be branched off of. His Earth is still doomed and everyone died. All they did was save a new timeline from the same fate.
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>>132221207
The script was probably made seperately (but had some stuff related to the finale's events squeezed in), it focuses on stuff that show never gave a second thought to (Donatello's shell, Donatello apparently having a weak stomach and getting queasy easily. Hell it's even mentioned on April's whiteboard.) This disconnect from the show is something I was wondering would happen, and it totally did. It still works, probably because the VAs are giving the same performances even if the characterization isn't the exact same.
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>>132231012
>Just a reminder, Casey didn't disappear because timelines are fixed and can only be branched off of. His Earth is still doomed and everyone died. All they did was save a new timeline from the same fate.
why everyone uses the dragon ball time law?
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>>132221165
Are you RPing as a bitter oldfag, or are you actually a retarded loser?
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>>132231012
>RotTMNT gets a new season
>Casey points out that he should have disappeared if he saved the future
>Donny brings up multiverse theory
>Casey is sad because it means his world is still doomed, but happy because at least this one won't suffer at the hands of the Krang
>season finale is of course the gang fighting a Krang-corrupted Future Leo sent to the past.
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>>132231012
Good, the time travel where people fade away when events are changed is fucking retarded. Why would they fade away/disappear, what force in the universe is keeping track of that?
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>>132231336
Would you rather it be like season 5 of samurai jack? How pissed would the fandom be had Casey just faded away.
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>>132231389
>Why would they fade away/disappear, what force in the universe is keeping track of that?
because they were never born and if they were never born then they don't exist, it's something really obvious.
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>>132231531
A really obvious paradox. If the circumstances that led to the time travel never occurred it negates the initial trip.
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>>132231450
>Would you rather it be like season 5 of samurai jack? How pissed would the fandom be had Casey just faded away.
the idea could work, just put a post-credits scene where Casey lives in a better future, like in x-men: days of future past
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>>132231531
It does not actually make sense. It's the most common time travel trope, but it's not something that could reasonably be expected to happen. Nothing in the universe is keeping tabs on you in such a way that a person from the future going to the past and changing it would result in that person disappearing. They're just in the past now, and the future they came from is gone because they changed it. They can't go back, it doesn't exist. Nobody has saved a backup of the future they can return to Even coming to the past to begin with would create minor enough changes to history that would affect the future, every fucking step they take after that point is going to change history more and more, so they would either fade out immediately or be in a constant flux where they kept changing due to differences in the "timeline".
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>>132216165
no, I won't allow it

die and stay dead your terrible piece of shit
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>Krang and Leo are left alone
>roll my eyes
>”oh boy Leos gonna beat him all on his own somehow just like 2012…”
>Krang fucking kicks his shit in and punches him so hard blood flies out his mouth
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>>132231882
When Krang 1 made Leo spit blood and started pummeling him I was like holy shit. The Krang were next level here.
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>>132231591
>>132231658
it makes sense if you think that the universe is like your PC, imagine that you deleted something important by accident, your only solution is to reset your pc to the previous saved version (go back in time), deleting the current version, it would be as if you had never made that mistake and Casey would be like a file that you did not have in the previous version and that is why it is deleted.
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>>132231962
wow.
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>>132223289
>You did not see the same movie as the rest of us
Yes, I did. And the animation was subpar. It was like they tried to copy the limited frame rate style from early Rise eps but failed miserably.
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>>132223287
In the series finale? The movie retcons that. In the series finale they imply the Krang (and the ooze) are responsible for the Yokai.

>>132223321
>while inserting some minor things
I would rather they had not inserted anything. It was so confusing and aggravating.
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>>132223716
>One interview said they had plans for a Rat King movie
GODDAMN IT
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>>132225257
correct
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>>132225451
Are you talking about 2012 or the Rogen movie? 2012 was awful.
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>>132220674
You have to be really retarded if you couldn't recognize April
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>>132226778
Because Raph and Leo argue in EVERY movie and every series. And its usually over stupid shit too. It annoyed me in this movie but I appreciate at least the context was different and the conflict was sort of flipped, its usually Raph that wants to go out on his own and doesn't want to listen to the team. Making it Leo and having the consequences be so dire was interesting and good set-up of his strengths as a leader. I also love how angry and serious Leo got immediately after Raph sacrificed himself, it was very refreshing.
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>>132226944
There's a MEGA link somewhere in the archive
Here it is
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/128786356/#128813862
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>>132226997
>Raph has been the angry one who argues with Leo since his solo issue in 85.
And you're not sick of that yet? It's always the same forced drama.
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WOW, The movie was really violent and scary. I can't let my kids watch this, I didn't grow up with blood and body horror. Shouldn't I stop him from watching the rise show?
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>>132232966
Where've you been? TMNT has always been messed up.
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>>132230172
>after this
87 wank never stopped. 2012 was full of it. The sequel to the 2014 movie was full of it. They never stopped selling 87 merch. 87 April is in the Nick All-Stars game, and that new 87 video game just came out. TMNT, as a franchise, will NEVER escape 87 wank.
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>>132233001
I only watched the original. I never cared for the edgy 2003 version.
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>>132233036
Is this man not grotesque and suffering?
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>>132231962
Yeah but we're not in a computer.
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>>132231012
>>132231450
So what the fuck is Casey gonna do now? Bang his mom? Or is April gonna date her friend's son from the future? What happens when their Cassandra actually has her own Casey? Wouldn't that be weird? Casey Jones is gonna grow up and look suspiciously similar to his "uncle" Casey...
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>>132231328
I was expecting it too but it was really more disconnected than I expected, and hoped for. Idk. I'll probably like the movie more if I watch it again. After a few years of waiting it just immediately felt like a letdown.
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>>132221538
>This one anon I don't like is also this other completely different anon who I don't like!
Not how it works anon.
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>>132217217
Gay
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>>132233036
>I only watched the original
>the original.
Mind talking to these four gentlemen for a second?
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>>132216165
I'm genuinely surprised how physically powerful the krang were in this movie
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>>132233083
There may never be a baby Casey in the new timeline since Cass probably met his dad during sometime during the resistance period. She may never meet that guy now. And I dunno about him dating April since he knew her as Commander April in his time
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>>132233113
Can't be helped, this movie was done quite some time ago so the wait is netflix's fault.
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>>132226778
Because I liked Leo and Raph's dynamic before, and going back to formula just feels like a downgrade.
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>>132231373
That would be cool, but Future Leo is dead. After he threw Casey into the portal, he fought for about 4 seconds before getting disintegrated by the Krang exo suit that was fucking up the resistance a few moments prior. Cool concept, but would require a very blatant retcon to work.
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>>132226888
I feel like it was warranted here because it was the only way to push forward Leo finally maturing to take the leadership role.
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>>132226778
I dont get why you aren't bored with the same basic elements.
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>>132233036
>2k3
>edgy
2k3 just wanted to look edgy but still fucking childish. "Same as It Never Was" episode just a AU. If we really want a real edgy, darker TMNT. The first thing is to avoid anything that time travel bullshit.
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>>132226888
They don't, the new dynamic they had was pretty good. It at least gave Leo a personality outside of "master splinter said..."
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>>132233735
>watch a comic book
You know what he said don't be a doof.
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>>132231882
That wide zoom in shot with the kickass music as they rushed at each other had me hype as fuck for that 1v1, and the fight lasted all of like 10 seconds. On my 2nd watch, it occurred to me that they actually spend the entire movie getting absolutely fucked by the Krang themselves in every encounter they have with them. Even when the Turtles get their powers back, their combined strength barely phases the main Krang in his exo suit. So Leo trying to solo him and promptly getting destroyed completely lines up with how much of a menace the Krang are in this movie. Would've actually been really bad consistency if Leo was suddenly matching him blow for blow by himself.
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>>132234085
Don't be shy, go talk to them
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>>132233904
>There may never be a baby Casey in the new timeline since Cass probably met his dad during sometime during the resistance period.
oh shit yeah youre right
>And I dunno about him dating April since he knew her as Commander April in his time
yeah... I kind of like the idea I made up though, Casey becoming his own "uncle" and taking the role as a sibling to Cassandra... that way we can have two Casey Jones's. The Casey Jones of the main Rise timeline would then be a team, Casey Jones and Casey Jones.
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>>132233931
I guess you're right. I thought it was delayed cause they were still working on it. My mistake.
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I like the idea that Raph is older than Leo. Hopefully Leo is the youngest brother and leader in the next series.
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Saw it pretty cool
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>>132234844
I think Mikey will always be the youngest
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>>132222697
Huh. At least she gets her own mask.
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>>132234050
Stockman did get pretty fucked in 2k3 though.
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>>132222697
>she fighting with her Girl Scout gang

Nice
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>>132231882
>expecting some little booger of a krang to come out the portal

>out comes this massive gigachad that was dominating the turtles, without the suit, with just krang fu
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>>132216165
The art style always turned me off.
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>>132216165
lmao weed dude
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>>132236051
What did he mean by this
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What are some characters that share Raphs powers?
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>>132223321
the rise of the tmnt movies original plan was not to be connected to the show AT ALL and I kept telling people that and they were like "no way its the same name" and then it came out and you can tell it was a different continuity where they just shoe horned in stuff from the show
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>>132236069
Seth Rogan is behind the next TMNT movie.
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>>132236377
Ok but what does that have to do with the Rise movie, which is what this thread is about?
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>>132236323
>not to be connected to the show at all
That makes no sense, it’s still called Rise. Making it accessible is different than making it unconnected entirely.
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>>132236215
What do you mean? In what way?
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>>132216165
I hope it fails miserably then. Rise should NOT come back.
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>>132231882
What did Leo do in 2012 again? And yeah mega chad Kraang
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>>132217755
Fuck off, Rise failed because of terrible characterizations.
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>>132236739
He beat and killed Shredder solo, from memory at least it's been a while
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>>132216165
I came, I saw, I enjoyed. had a bit of a pacing thing and imo it felt like the backpaddled about 1% on Leo as a character but it did make for a good part of explaining why he wasn't fully the leader even after S2.

>>132235522
It was something that kept negging me during my watch cause Casey was around and it was a perfect time to catch up on whatever Casandra was up to post S2 since she apparently wasn't family enough to be in the pic like April, I'm glad they sorta addressed her and had it be the idea that she was still brawling for her life and the city just off screen, but it's a shame in my eyes she didn't really appear at all in person.
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>>132217755
yup
>>132236750
shut it boomer
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>>132236865
Cass not being in the family photo is pretty messed up for sure, but the fact their other dad wasn't there is a real misstep
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>>132236215
I guess Ms Marvel now. Green Lantern could probably do it. Theres also a XMEN character who does this. She makes a construct around her!
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>>132236215
Armor in X-men
Green Lantern
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>>132236898
>but the fact their other dad wasn't there is a real misstep
YUP.
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>>132236898
To be fair they were villains
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>>132236875
Rise bombed for a reason.
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>>132236944
The reason isn’t what you think cowaboomer
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>>132236944
Low quality merchandise?
A lack of marketing?
Changes in management?
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>>132236396
It's just as terrible as Seth Rogan
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>>132236984
He said about a movie that isn’t out yet
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>>132236973
Terrible show with terrible versions of the characters? So terrible in fact, that they couldn't even sell the toys.
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>>132236927
Not when that photo would have been taken they weren't
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>>132236997
>blatantly ignoring anons points
Classic autistic behavior
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>>132236898
>but the fact their other dad wasn't there is a real misstep
holy shit I forgot all about Draxum! Where even was he? Did he have a future cameo like the guy with Flapjack's VA cause I don't think i saw him at all.

Hell we could have had a Vines vs Vines battle.


Which reminds me: the Movie never addressed the vials as an application after that one section, never addresses what they were truly for or the fact that the Krang were vulnerable to them, I almost expected Donnie to synthesize something out of them to fight the krang or to free Raph but the movie just pretends they don't exist after a point
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>>132237001
That photo was for Casey not for the rest, Draxum means nothing to him and he didn’t know where his mom was at the moment
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>>132236997
No show could've moved this kid's meal tier bullshit.
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>>132237052
>That photo was for Casey
Why would you assume that? I'm talking about the photo he had, dumbass. The one taken before he was even fucking born
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>>132237063
dear fucking god, what did they do to Donnie? He looks like he has brain damage
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>>132237063
Yet 2012's line sold gangbusters
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>>132237080
I was talking about the last one, but the first one was just a picture of the senpai probably right after April got into college, something she would rather share with them than Draxum and Cass
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>>132236865
yeah it sucks because Cass was present for the last few episodes of the series. The final battle of the series Cassandra, Splinter, the turtles, April, and Draxum. They all should be together.
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>>132232893
And that's why I liked it, it recontextualizes that dynamic. even 87 had Raph be the one who's be sarcastic to Leo's more heroic attitudes.

>>132234032
Because its what I expect out of the characters, and I like the characters. Besides that, , remember that for a lot of kids this is their first TMNT so its not boring for them.
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>>132237080
>Why would you assume that? I'm talking about the photo he had, dumbass. The one taken before he was even fucking born
It's actually ridiculous and complete bullshit Casey had no idea his mom was friends with the turtles. How was it not his mom that introduced him to them? And if he knew the turtles he should know Draxum.
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>>132236215
The power puff girls in the reboot
The kid from Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go!
A bunch of characters in Yin Yang Yo!
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>>132237101
You fucking gargantuan imbecile he's talking about the quality of the toys
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>>132237193
She probably died when he was young or something.
She also got redeemed in the end and we didn’t get to see them getting that close in the show so there’s also that
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>>132236968
>cowaboomer

Might be the weakest insult I've seen in years of using 4chan, Might as well have called him dusty old bones, full of green dust.
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>>132237230
>She probably died when he was young or something.
But he immediately recognized a picture of her as a young woman? Who showed him a picture if it wasn't the turtles or Commander O'Neil?
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>>132237293
This response just proves it triggered you, so it’s appropriate
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>>132236901
>>132236904
Technology Donnie share the same powers as the Lanterns. Raph can only Astral project clones and a large avatar.
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>>132237301
Well yeah she probably just looked like a bit older version of how she looks young now. She would be living in an apocalyptic future, she’s not gonna gain ten pounds and live on a NY apartment to the point of being unrecognizable
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That all being said, how do you all feel about this version of Casey?
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>>132237323
>triggered

lol.
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>>132236721
when announced they said they weren't connect, before the backlash before anything, it was just the same studio doing both.
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>>132237363
Not bad but lacks a real Casey's batshit je ne sais quoi.
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>It's another thread where millennials pretending to be boomers argue with younger millennials pretending to be zoomers
Every time. Can we talk about cute girls instead?
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>>132237458
His mom is batshit tho.
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>>132237499
No but wouldn't it be nice if we could?
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>>132237515
Then she is the Casey and he is Casey in name only.
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>>132237458
The fem Casey they had in the show is the closest thing to that level of crazy from an animated adaptation
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>>132237544
Yeah she was based
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>>132237528
It would be wonderful.
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>>132237499
Just don't bite the bait. You gain nothing trying to inform people about the show.
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>>132237544
>>132237559
One of my favorite crazy Casey moments. This entire fight.
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>>132237499
>Jessica Jaclyn only appeared twice, and the second time was a bg cameo
I will never forgive them for this
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>>132237595
I haven't, but that hasn't stopped others from engaging, unfortunately. Going into my Rise folder now to dig out some fan art.
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>>132237380
Yes anon that’s what being triggered is, you’re experiencing it right now
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>>132237443
I’m sure it was a mistranslation, they also announced a full S2 and looked what happened.
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>>132237682
lol
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>>132237639
Jessica Jaclyn was alright. I liked the reporter, it sucks she didn't show back up in this movie. Oddly enough it seems that there's fan art of the two of them together.
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>>132231349
>No, no, "ass" is totally a swearword
You can say ass on FM radio.
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>>132237767
Still triggered
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>>132237813
what the fuck is a radio
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What a random ship.
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>>132237858
Something you can't say real cursewords on.
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>>132237891
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>>132237820
lol
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I was amused by the Agent Bishop and EPA cameos at the end.
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>>132237108
They're one big family, guy. Why wouldn't Draxum be there celebrating along with the turtles?
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>>132238168
Because Draxum is closer to Mikey than April, she barely stands him and he thinks humans are stupid. Draxum probably would think college is a waste of April's talents.
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I'm just curious, has IDW or any of the newer TMNT series used ANY villains from Next Mutation? I honestly think some of them deserve new incarnations.
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>>132238266
I don't think people like Next Mutation.
That said, speaking of new incarnations, Big Momma and Baron Draxum are way too perfect to be left behind. They're the best type of enemy for whenever the writers need a break season between Kraang and Foot Clan
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>>132216165
Damn. I was just gonna have it play in the background to support the animators but I ended up being glued to it almost the entire time.
I only wish I was 12, it would have completely blown my mind.
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>>132238266
Already got a dragon guy.
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>>132238319
>I don't think people like Next Mutation
No shit. Still, I'd rather see a new take on The Rank, Silver's gang, or even Bonesteel, than the 500th take on Slash, Bebop & Rocksteady, or Krang.
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>>132238319
It is kind of sad that we'll probably never see Mama or Draxum again. Or even guys like that weedy little Foot Clan wizard, since giving anyone in the Foot a personality that isn't Shredder or Karai is forbidden by the TMNT police
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>>132228085
I assume they expected the movie to pull in new viewers who hadn't seen the series.
Movie was being worked on during production of season 2, before they got cancelled, so they probably didn't want to spoil things.

The conflict still works if either one is leader or if both are co-leaders: Raph wants Leo to be responsible and work with his team instead of insisting having things his way.
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>>132238373
>It is kind of sad that we'll probably never see Mama or Draxum again
As I said I think they're perfect for mid term villains in between big baddies, so I'm sure we'll see them again eventually. Maybe not as great, but definitely someday. They're just too easy not to use, mutant villains with a presence that serve a threat to the turtles. All the big villains are either the Foot or aliens, mystic creatures rarely get to be the baddies in charge (in cartoons mostly, I hear IDW does something with them)
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>>132238266
They might be owned by Saban. Viacom apparently got the rights to Venus, but dealing with Saban is well-known to be a nightmare, so they might not have bothered trying to secure the rights of other characters.
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>>132238561
I would think those characters are so worthless they would come in cheap
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>>132238597
Like I said, dealing with Saban is well-known to be an absolute nightmare. Logic goes right out the window. Only Harmony "Robotech" Gold has a worse reputation for pants-on-head-retarded attachment to their rights and mismanagement of said rights.
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After the Warner Bros shit, I think this show was lucky to have a movie. Everything animated is in danger right now unless they're super uber succesful, even decent success is deemed unfit in the new modern standards of retard producers.
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Eat it Viacom
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>>132238336
>I only wish I was 12, it would have completely blown my mind.
I saw this meme on Twitter and felt the same way. 2012 got me into the franchise but I'm not really glad I grew up with it, it kind of sucks in retrospect.
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>>132238562
I'm sorry you had to find out this way but Splinter pretty much does nothing in the movie
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>>132238896
Fuck.
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>>132238696
>After the Warner Bros shit
TMNT is Viacom though?
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>>132221788
The series finale was a much better send-off, agreed. Glad we got to see Cassandra wearing her mask but why the fuck is she still wearing her recruit uniform?
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>>132238908
yes but they're no better
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>>132238868
YOU suck in retrospect.
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The Triceratons are fucking dead by the way, Kraang won in this universe
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>>132238907
Sorry. I guess they just didn't know what to do with him. Really most of the movie is just about how much of a piece of shit loser Leo is. Actually, when I put it like that, its even weirder they didn't give Splinter much to do or say. What Leo went through in this movie is pretty similar to what we saw Hamato go through in his decision to become Lou Jitsou.
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>>132238990
I don't disagree. A new show I really liked was airing on a Viacom network in 2019 and the second season got canned after they already started filming because covid happened and they decided to restructure the entire network, cutting all original scripted series.
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>>132239059
>What Leo went through in this movie is pretty similar to what we saw Hamato go through in his decision to become Lou Jitsou.
Maybe they just decided to nerf him since he basically became the protagonist of Rise by the end of S2. He really got a lot of plot and development in the series so maybe they decided he should step back this time and give moments to everyone else to shine.
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>>132238868
Grew up on '87. Franchise peaked with 1990 movie. 2003 was good fun, especially the stuff adapting Mirage. I preferred 2012 to the other cartoons though - 2003 was much more wobbily whenever IT tried to do stuff that wasn't just adapting Mirage.
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>>132239088
Maybe. The movie was only an hour and 16 minutes after all.
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Uploaded anywhere? I have no intention of giving Netflix a click for this, but I may as well finish the series off.
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>>132238868
2012 is sort of like Transformers Prime where its got great stuff and is an amazing intro, but not as unique so it feels very basic in hindsight.
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>>132239090
>ranchise peaked with 1990 movie
I'm always surprised with this take. Yeah, it's a good movie, but I think it's exaggerating to call it better than 2003 and 2012. The humor and puns are dated, the human cast is super generic, and some of the pacing is off. The biggest points in its favor is that we get to see kids doing age innapropiate stuff, it has cool action and some emotional moments. But besides the kids smoking and drinking, I don't see what it does that's any better than the following animated series.
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>>132231882
Not even gonna lie to you my drunk ass was sitting there thinking they were going to end this shit by having Leo make some desperate sacrifice that killed both him and Krang. They really had me for a moment.
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>>132222155
i saw bishop and an EDF truck containing sister krang
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I'm going to miss the rise threads. It's finally over.
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>>132222155
I would have loved to see a version of them in Rise
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>>132239160
We can always brag about it once the Seth Rogen stuff comes out
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>>132222055
raph is also avdol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2iLnoviyGU
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>>132239160
I'm not. It's been years now and we still have the same sad losers coming in trying to start the same tired arguments
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>>132238561
>>132238641
Nah, Laird specifically got the rights to everything but the 87 show and a maybe few other things here or there when he was organizing all the rights. Likeness rights for actors might be murky but its one of those things that probably wouldn't make a dent to Viacom, and typically Saban had the actor's likenesses bound to the contracts for toys.
The Fred Wolf deal was fucking awful(they tried to sue Eastman and Laird for things like the Turtles living in a sewer or April wearing a jumpsuit) so presumably once Mirage cut later deals they were more careful about how rights were handled.
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>>132236729
It is basically straight to video.
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>the entire rise fandom ITT
All 90 of you gonna be okay? Lol
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>>132239139
1. Style
2. There's something to be said for telling a short and sweet story then just... walking away (let's pretend the third movie never happened).

The longer 2003 went on, the worse it got. By a lot. Just to give the example that bugs me the most, in the '90 movie Casey Jones is the guy that sees Shredder fall, thinks "he's probably dead, buuuuuuuuut let's just make sure" and presses the button to make the garbage truck crush the dude.
In 2003, Casey starts off pretty fun, turns into a moron that's tripping over his own feet, and eventually has a confrontation with Hun - the dude that killed Casey's dad - where he has a chance to let Hun fall to his death, saves Hun instead, IMMEDIATELY gets Hun trying to kill him again, then walks to his dad's grave to go "well when you think about it I kinda won*" (*He did not. He absolutely lost.)

2003 had its good moments but good yea gods does it have a lot of bad ones too. There are whole episodes we try to block from our memories. '90 wasn't perfect but it averaged out to a higher level of quality than any of the other stuff.
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>>132237363
Not really all that bad. I like how the armor is turtle themed, the touch to the mask is pretty neat too in showing how much he respected Leonardo as his Master.

Still would have preferred Cassandra though.
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>>132239219
90 ips is large for a /co/ thread. amphibia. owl house and other shows literally have 50 ips most of the time. Also this thread started when everyone was asleep.
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>>132237891
>>132237951
Lmao what the fuck.

Could be worse things to ship I guess.
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>>132239090
>>132239010
I enjoyed the first two seasons of 2012, and still might now, but things got very weird after that (in a bad way). And even just thinking about it, a lot of it wasn't great to begin with. Splinter was an asshole. Beast Boy Mikey was annoying. Leo was boring and annoying. Donnie was a creep that got cucked by the faggiest version of Casey Jones possible and April was a huge bitch starting with S3. I really just liked Raph and how hot the girls were. It felt like everyone in that show was just tolerating each other. And the writing got so bad at some point it became unwatchable. Only thing it has over Rise is the episode length.

>2003
I think I watched some of it when I was a very little kid but I just can't get into it now. The voice acting, music, and character designs are so grating.
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>>132239256
>90 ips is large for a /co/ thread
To be fair to the shitposting anon, a good percentage of those are shitposters
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>>132239111
A click? If you're already subscribed to Netflix just watch it on there.
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>>132239264
They contribute being angry on this site all day.
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>>132239256
this. do not mistake thread active with number of people otherwise all those stupid offtopic smut posting threads would be the most populated thing on this board but really its just 1-2 autist dumping a folder of images over and over again while they soft erp at each other.
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>>132239224
I agree 2003 (and also 2012) got more flawed as the episodes went on, but the amount of time you get to spend with the characters to me makes it matter more than the og movie. And as you try to pretend the third movie doesn’t exist, I’m sure plenty of TMNT fans would say the same of the worst parts of their favorite incarnations
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>>132239263
>Splinter was an asshole
2012 Splinter was the best father by far. Sometimes being a good father means telling your kids they're being dumbasses. And he gave very good advice.
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>>132239256
It literally started at 2 in the morning and it lasted all day, it’s an absolute win
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>>132239301
>2012 Splinter was the best father by far
lol
lmao
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>>132231336
DB didn't invent that trope, you fucking weeb.
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>>132239301
If I remember correctly though he stopped hanging with them in the later seasons. Mostly due to the writers boner in teasing his death almost every season
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>>132239276
You misunderstand. Watching it on Netflix would send the message that I want more content like that. I do not. I want to dance on this piece of shit's grave. But I watched the rest of Rise (egged on by people insisting if I just gave it ONE MORE chance it'd get good), so at this point I'm looking to wrap things up for the sake of completion.
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>>132239343
A watch is a watch you massive retard, you literally spent time of your life inadvertently supporting something you hate. Congrats on being a loser.
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>>132239314
Yuuuuuuuuuuuuup. It's a low bar, no version was Atticus Finch or anything.
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>>132239176
No we can't. I'm certain Rogen won't make April black and if he does she won't look like Rise April she'll be an "ambiguously brown" young girl or cool woman that this board will obnoxiously sexualize and compare to Rise April ad infinitum.

>>132239183
I've had at least a few fun conversations on here in relation to Rise but I can't say I'm gonna miss it either. And we all know we're not welcome in the regular TMNT threads. Till whatever comes next, I guess.
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>>132239343
Did you ever consider just not going into threads about the show? Then you wouldn't have had people telling you that you should keep watching something you don't like.
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>>132239359
>supporting
lol.

>a watch is a watch
A pirated watch is not a watch that Netflix or Nick wants, my dude.
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>>132239361
>It's a low bar
That he didn't reach. 2012 Splinter barely even acted like a father, he spent most of his time in 'sensei' mode
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>>132239241
Pretty much how I feel. And I feel kind of bad about it. Because 2012 and 2016 Casey were fucking awful. So this is the best (male) Casey in a while and instead we're all complaining about how we would've rather seen Cassandra instead.
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>>132239371
I went into regular TMNT threads, I stayed the fuck away from Rise-exclusive threads. I'm a TMNT fan. Half the reason I bothered watching it (often on fast-forward because JESUS) was so I'd understand what was happening in any future (hopefully better) version that references it.

I'm in this thread just to ask for a link to a pirated upload, if I can get that I'll bid you all a fine day and be on my merry way.
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>>132239301
He was a good teacher but a terrible father. 2012 Splinter would've been better if they went with the "no relation" origin. His VA was great though and I'm glad they brought him back to play Rise Shredder.
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>>132239139
Lets not pretend ANY of these shows humor and puns date well. 87 was written by ancient burnout TV writers who reused scripts from other shows and made dated, out of touch satire like old gangster flick characters as if kids care about Godfather parodies. The 2003 show was simply, 4kids writers, and full of embarrassing dialogue undersold by questionable voiceacting outside the main turtles and Shredder. 2012 feels written by Gen Xers trying to pull off quirky random humor but they lost track of pop culture around 2005. Rise is Rise, I won't shit on it here because this thread had enough of that.


>the human cast is super generic,
April's fine and Casey is great, arguably the reason Casey is the way he is in later series since he was just kind of a greaser in Mirage up until then.

The old school late 80's NYC is also extremely soulful, something that's woefully missing in a lot of incarnations. Being made in Massachusetts the Mirage comics didn't really feel like NYC in the brief time they're there
, and the cartoons are usually just cartoon NYC.
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>>132239419
>often on fast-forward
Your mind is truly fascinating.
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>>132239392
>2012 Splinter barely even acted like a father, he spent most of his time in 'sensei' mod

You're thinking of 2003. And '86. And, fuck, pretty much all of them. Not Rise though, he was a TERRIBLE sensei on top of being a pretty subpar father (with the odd "no he actually loves them" moment to put him above the likes of Peter Griffin).
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>>132239363
If seth make April relevant to the plot people will hate the movie. April was the main character of 2012 and the hate she generate was so extreme that it make 4chan reaction to rise April seem mild.
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>>132239343
You really don't need to watch it. Especially if you didn't like the show. The movie is worse than the show.

>>132239419
>(often on fast-forward because JESUS)
What the fuck is wrong with you? Why even bother?
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>>132239445
Rise Splinter was an inexperienced dad trying to do his best. It's what made him endearing and made those moments where they showed how much he truly loved his boys that much better
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>>132239457
TMNT is a franchise that often references previous versions. I wanted to know where they might be leading the franchise. Sometimes you have to push your way through something you dislike, for the research. And people kept insisting it'd get better. By the time I was far enough in to be certain it would NEVER get better, I was going "fuck it, may as well finish it."
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>>132239296
Hot take but the third movie is better than the second. The turtles in the second movie just sort of fart around and besides Donnie being smart, don't really have much of a plot, they're just action clowns. In the Third movie they have some actual character moments, and the cinematography is actually fairly decent. What drags it down is Casey having nothing to really do, and the awful costumes, so even if Kurosawa directed it it'd still look ridiculous.
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>>132239498
>Sometimes you have to push your way through something you dislike
No, you really don't
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>>132239449
How the fuck did someone manage to watch 2012 which kept beating us over the head with April being a subpar ninja that needed her mutant spider-sense just to survive, and create that picture? Mind boggling. The girl ended up tied up or captured on a regular basis, and half the time her "I have a sharp fan!" attacks did jack shit. The only thing keeping her useful was the mutant telepathy/telekinesis.
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>>132239400
And it so fucking goes.
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>>132239449
>April was the main character of 2012 and the hate she generate was so extreme that it make 4chan reaction to rise April seem mild.
Not really. People largely ignore how horrible 2012 April was because she's hot. If Rise April had a similarly sexualized design her being black would've hardly mattered. She could've even been just as terrible as 2012 April and nobody would've cared.
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>>132239528
Yeah, actually, you really do. Lots of research amounts to going through stupid bullshit just to learn a few things.
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>>132239531
It's pretty easy. Just gotta come at everything with a deep hatred of women
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>>132239445
>You're thinking of 2003.

2003 Splinter is underrated as a father, there's plenty to show he was really caring for the boys, he specifically didn't want to use them for vengeance or put them in danger like his Mirage counterpart and fought alongside them when they did. I get that the generic VA of the 4kids stuff can downplay that but he's not as much of a just-sensei as people make it out to be.
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>>132239224
What really annoying me was that they always make Karai become Shredder daughter and subordinate. She was supposed to be his superior. Because she is a leader of japan Foot. Especially 2k3 Karai is worst. I really tired of her "honor" crap. I also hate how 2k3 Leo had this white knight retard response to her.
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>>132239548
Watching children's cartoons isn't research
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>>132239485
>trying his best
That's pretty generous. They made a plot point of the fact that the boys genuinely believed he didn't love them enough to bother learning their names. You can say that it's for comedy, but c'mon, most "trying their best" fathers manage to pull off the low-bar victory of "my son thinks I know his name."
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>>132219136
It didn't do Raph dirty at all. Raph *Spoiler* and sacrificed himself to save *Spoiler* and wasn't *Spoiler* but wore like a krang *Spoiler* `
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>>132239498
I can understand where you're coming from. That's the same logic that makes me want to watch 2003, but I just don't think I'd be able to take it, realistically. You don't need to watch the movie.
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>>132239575
His best wasn't very good but it was still his best
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Jocelyn.
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>>132239549
Oh right, forgot where I was.
Yeah, I recently rewatched the first three seasons of 2012 and was honestly going "wow, they really drive home that April's NOT good at fighting, except when she gets to use her mutant power for a moment." There were even quite a few scenes driving home that she was absolutely the rookie of the group, complete with her doing stupid things that made everyone around her go "be nice, she's just starting out." Girl almost killed herself just trying to pick a signature weapon.
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>>132239546
She was a half krang / half human hybrid. she perfectly counter krang and if she didn't control her powers she can easily kill the turtles.
She had a horrible attitude and only hang out with the turtles out of utility.
Also the love triangle was horrible. it made both Donnie and Casey worse characters through their simping.
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>>132239621
>out of utility

Never watched 2012. Was she not friends with them there?
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>>132239621
>and if she didn't control her powers she can easily kill the turtles.

No, that's factually incorrect. The only time she showed that kind of power was when she got the alien macguffin. And she's not the first TMNT character to go all Dark Phoenix thanks to an alien macguffin. Fucking turnstone, man.

Alien McGuffins: Not Even Once.

>>132239657
He's crazy, pay him no mind.
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>>132239657
she mostly stayed with the turtles to save her dad. She became friends with them latter on.
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>>132239621
I never like how they always made Donnie like a loser nerd.
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>>132239584
Can you watch the 03 Teen Titans cartoon, The Batman, Jackie Chan Adventures, Transformers Animated, or Ben 10? Because its basically in that wheelhouse.
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Do the Rise turtles have the best teamwork?
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>>132239668
Where's the so call McGuffin vs shredder?
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>>132239676
Rise Donnie is legitimately my favourite Donnie of any incarnation specifically because of this. He's such a fun character when they have him as being super arrogant about his smarts
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>>132239657
>Never watched 2012. Was she not friends with them there?
They were more business partners. Friends out of necessity. I'm sure there's instances in the first two or three seasons where they seem friendly enough but the quality of the show severely drops after that point and it does feel like April tolerates them more than anything.
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>>132239699
Yes it's not even debatable.
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>>132239657
She was friends with them. She initially hung out with them because the Kraang kidnapped her and her dad, then rescued her, then promised to help her dad. He's not wrong that "she wanted to be around them because they offered to find her dad" was part of the equation, but even in ep 3 (the first episode after they saved her from the Kraang) she was offering to help them deal with stuff unrelated to her dad, because they were the awesome dudes that saved her, and she liked them. "You guys saved me! Thank you! I am now your friend and ally" - the standard April-meets-the-boys origin.
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>>132239575
he does know their names but he is terrible with names to begin with, he tried naming them all green when she got them free from Draxum
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>>132239699
Teamwork in what sense? They're good at accomplishing stupid shit together, less good at getting actual business done. They're the most like a family though.
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>>132239705
>But the thing that was put into the story specifically to turn April into a villain for a couple of episodes... why was it not used to solve all their problems?

Because it was a magic/sci-fi thingamabob put in there to turn April into a villain for a couple of episodes. Again, this is nothing new, not even to TMNT.
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>>132239699
combat wise, easily. they have team combinations up the wazoo
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So is it time for a next-generation Turtle comic?
Every single future timeline for the guys, we see them surviving one form or another of the Appocolipse. It's never a happy ending, it's them watching there family, friends, and others dying and them barely surviving. Isn't it time for the Hamato Family to expand?
Also (2012) Leo and Hekate? would it work? `
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>>132239726
>"You guys saved me! Thank you! I am now your friend and ally" - the standard April-meets-the-boys origin.

Pity they didn't bother doing some variation of it in Rise. Rise April is such a non-character it's depressing. I feel like I even know the Caseys better than her, despite less screentime.
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>>132239687
I probably couldn't watch Jackie Chan Adventures now but I may be able to watch some of the other ones. I don't find any of them as aesthetically unappealing as TMNT 2k3 though.
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>>132239838
>I feel like I even know the Caseys better than her, despite less screentime
I feel like there might be some other reason for that, since I don't agree with this at all. We know far more about April's character
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>>132239870
Her character changed from episode to episode, Anon. The writers didn't have a firm feel on her. With fem-Casey they knew "that bitch is crazy and wants to fight!" With April they couldn't make their mind up whether she was super-enthusiastic and thrilled about adventure being part of her life and wanting to join in like 2012 April, or was more like 2003 April who went "ugh, not this nonsense again, can I sit this one out?" There were eps with both depictions. It's fine, the show didn't last long enough for them to hammer everything out, but an episode showing how she met the boys might've helped them firm up their ideas more.
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>>132239838
I really wish they did a flashback episode so we could see how Rise April and the turtles met. If you read the descriptions on the Wikipedia page it says they pretty much grew up together. IIRC, they knew each other for 5 years already before the beginning of the series.
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>>132239898
Wow man it's almost like sometimes you're down for going dumb shit with your friends and other times you aren't in the mood.
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>>132239567
>I've never had to plow through something that's absolute dogshit just so I can understand what's going on when it gets referenced later

Never read mainstream comics? Probably for the best.
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When did Rise get it's own character page? That's interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rise_of_the_Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_characters
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Rise april only appered in a quarter of the episode. The people who worked on the show mostly cared about the turtles based on all of the porn they made on Tumblr / Twitter. wished she wasn't a mandates.
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>>132239948
I don't read mainstream comics, no. Though when I did I'd just wiki shit I didn't know
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>>132239933
And sometimes writers just don't bother hammering out a character that's there because she's grandfathered in, not because they have real interest in the character. She's in less than half the episodes, and even in the eps where she DOES appear she's often just a cameo. The writers wanted to write the boys and Splinter. April was... there.
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>>132239400
While it's great to know I'm not her only fan, as I said at the beginning of the thread I didn't ask for Fem Casey. But I was open to the idea, so don't puss out now after you just slid that in there all casually.

I also just realized you were talking about Stephen Amell's Casey. That shit was disappointing on levels unknown. The sad part is he has experience wearing a wig so dunno why he couldn't have done so here. And why is the mask so fucking huge? Who was it meant for? Frankenstein?
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>>132239984
>if an important character doesn't meet this arbitrary screen time quota I've set in my head they should just be scrapped
What a strange way of thinking you have
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>>132239984
She just get captured or defeated after she say her battle cry in most episodes.
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>>132240008
>She should be scrapped
I said the exact opposite. I said I wished the writers had put in the effort needed to flesh her out better, and that a good first step would've been telling the story of how she first met the boys.
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>>132238319
>I don't think people like Next Mutation
>mfw I do like Next Mutation
It has been a lonely journey
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>>132239485
>that one scene of a transforming Yoshi out in the rain while realizing that he'll never want to leave the side of his new sons

I'm not crying you're crying

It also tied in the whole "Draxum as a second father" thing so nicely.
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>>132240008
What's the title of the show? Why do you want a useless human in TMNT?
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>>132239845
Different strokes I get, 2003 was probably the last set of cartoon turtle designs I actually liked outside of some of the Nick shorts. I like Rise but not necessarily as turtles
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>>132240028
THE LEGENDARY ONE!
HE DOES EXIST!
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>>132240043
>why do you want more than four characters in this show
I dunno anon I just like characters
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>>132240043
>Why would ANYONE want April O'Neil in TMNT?
You should take that one up with Eastman and Laird. They started it.
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>>132239731
>he is terrible with names to begin with
Due to being a comically self-centered person, yes. In terms of fatherhood he's a low-level sitcom dad that does a bunch of silly "lol, he's kinda shit" things but makes up for it with the odd "awww, he loves 'em" moment. "Low level sitcom dad" is not a good dad. 2012 Splinter was a better father.
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>>132240007
>I also just realized you were talking about Stephen Amell's Casey.
Amell Casey and Josh Peck Casey. Both were godawful incarnations. Guess that's why Rise gave us two great Casey's to make up for it.
>And why is the mask so fucking huge? Who was it meant for? Frankenstein?
Idk I couldn't get past him being a cop, of all things. Casey starting out as a foot clan recruit is a bit much but at least it actually makes sense.
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>>132240052
Oh, that's interesting. I can't stand the 2003 designs and love the Rise designs. Don't dislike the 2012 designs either, I like the turtles being visually distinct. I guess you're right, different strokes and all.
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>>132240161
The cop thing threw me too but I'm also used to stories where the good guy tries to do right but too much paperwork gets tossed in the way so they resort to vigilantism. It was an interesting way to go about it but I was open, not like this was going to be the end-all-be-all definitive Casey so it wasn't a reason for me to get triggered, as long as him Casey'ing people was good. Which unfortunately it wasn't.

I found it weird also that in the context of the story, Casey and April were the ones to put Bebop and Rocksteady out of commission.
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>>132240261
>I found it weird also that in the context of the story, Casey and April were the ones to put Bebop and Rocksteady out of commission.
I don't even remember anything about that movie at this point. The first was a mess but I enjoyed it a hell of a lot more.
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>>132240198
It helps that the 03 designs are based off my personal favorite TMNT artist, Michael Dooney.
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>>132240363
He did a better April than the show.
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>>132240363
I see, I hate those too.
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>>132240315
Ironically enough there are people who will tell you Out of the Shadows was better, but I don't understand how. The battle between Krang and the turtles was alright I guess but I felt it missed alot.

The fact that we got a fully fleshed out Shredder only for him to get cucked out of a proper fight also felt retarded too. I was of the camp that was open to Fichtner being Shredder before reactive blowback put a pin on that.
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>>132237363
Felt more like trunks
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>>132240390
I am a bit curious why
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>>132240645
Just not a fan. They all have the same body-type and look like roided out freaks. Never understood how people liked the 03 designs but hated the Michael Bay designs.
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>>132240656
Oh, that one is really easy. It was racism
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>>132240540
>but I don't understand how.
Cause it took inspiration from 87, I guess? I remember enjoying some of it (and Karai was hot) but it was definitely a step down. The first movie was like cobbled together and stupid and fuck but it had organic fun and I liked bimbo April.
>The fact that we got a fully fleshed out Shredder only for him to get cucked out of a proper fight also felt retarded too.
Don't even remember Shredder in the sequel. Shredder fight in the first was cool as fuck though.
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>>132240656
Ah, I'd say its the faces mostly. In my minds eye the TMNT are big bulky but short guys, thanks to years of merchandising art. Most of the hate for the Bay turtles comes from them being too tall and the faces.
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>>132240693
That was some really brain dead shit. The turtles were voiced by and modeled after four white guys and people still found a way to be racist about it.

>>132240713
That's fair. I think they even bothered to make them shorter in the sequel.



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