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Will Wandafags ever get over Zatanna beating her?
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Who unironically even likes Wanda? She's completely psychotic.
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>>131455745
>Episode not even at 2M yet
Seems like they don't care
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>>131455745
Do they ever? Like everyday on Twitter is just Wandafags being obsessed with her beating every fictional character ever.
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>No one even discusses Boba Fett vs Predator
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>>131455745
When Hercfags learn to accept the truth.
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>>131455745
Every time I'm in the streets I hear ZAT ZAT ZAT
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>>131455850
I just did not like Star Wars
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>>131455745
Zatanna more like Fatanna
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>>131455866
Your fanfic is irrelevant, Louxi.
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>>131455910
Architect?
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>>131455745
https://joke-battles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DMUA/Real_Life:_Donald_Trump_says_the_n_word
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They just did. Take this fat L
LMAO
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>>131455745
Of all the absolute garbage fans have had to deal with, some animated fanfic is basically irrelevant. The people here who got angry about it weren't fans of Wanda herself, more general Marvel fans angry about what the implications of that battle would mean for other Marvel vs DC battles they could do.

>>131455824
OK, so this is thread is just people bringing their stupid Twitter drama to /co/.
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>>131456209
Is that in the comic?
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>>131455768
the women and gay men who made the mcu version their joker
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>>131456188
Kek
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>>131455981
Obsessed
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The more I think about it, Crash had ways to kill Spyro. Just give him the fucking Titans already.
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Frumpier mousy girls prefer Wanda because she is easier to self-insert as than a gorgeous raven-haired beauty like Zee.
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>>131455981
anon this entire show is fanfiction
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>>131456273
it straight-up happened. they called back on the original in JLA/A
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>>131456263
>The people here who got angry about it weren't fans of Wanda herself, more general Mousecucks
Fixed, this thread seethes whenever Papa Mickey's IP is disrespected. Lucky for them next match is another Mouse vs Mouse booking.
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>>131456382
>No comic pages
Anon it’s a script not the final product
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>>131456400
the mouse owns predator? that is fucked
>>131456415
Want me to pat your head little fella? Cry about it, it's okay.
>>131456263
a good amount of people are simply sick and tired of mid and high tiers being prefix versal busters
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>>131456382
They artificially gave Wanda a power boost when in the DC universe.
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>>131456492
Not in this one, pipsqueak. Zatanna lost to a much, much, much weaker Wanda than the current one.
>>131455768
There's a small sect of rabid Wandafags in the general fandom even in battleboarding.
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>>131455866
Feels good rooting for the monkey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wMbuMETEcs
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>>131456573
Not in the actual comic
Zatanna is a legitimate high tier
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>>131456697
>Zatanna is a legitimate high tier
Sure she is. In your fanfiction, Swank.
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Aang coming back for a proper opponent when?
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>>131456894
Steven?
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>>131455866
When Louxi admits Monkey does not have infinite strength and durability and that he lied about it to get over his fanfic.
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>>131456965
So you guys should've gotten over it like a day or two ago is what you're saying.
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Tell me if I've got this right.
>SW has a win over Z
>Z's claim to high power levels is Pralaya who is omniversal according to anons last thread
>she allegedly or otherwise destroys the omniverse
>every being inside the omniverse is destroyed
>this includes Grant Morrison's hilariously shit DC map
>therefore includes heavy hitters like Superman and even CAS
>Zatanna > Superman
>Wanda > Zatanna
Would this not mean Scarlet Witch by herself scales above DC as a whole because of this?
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>>131457000
>>SW has a win over Z
Nope
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>>131456989
The great sage equal to fanfic must kow tow to bodhisattva Otto.
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>meat guy vs electricity guy
Yeah that's totally fair
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>>131456857
Consistently on par with Heralds
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>>131457057
Otto seriously needs to reign in his retards.

>>131457066
The best thing Mercer has going for him over Cole is his speed and maybe being able to infect him, but seeing as how Conduits can resist diseases and such it might not do a lot. Cole can also just spam Lightning Storm over and over on Alex's head.
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>>131455866
>The Greekfags along with the Tripfag clamor to a Journey to the West expert to cope and attempt to downplay that Superman 0 got bodied
>"Actually it turns out Hercules' only win condition wouldn't work either and Sun Wukong wins even harder than the show had it"
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>>131455768
I liked her before Bendis Bendis'd her.
And yes I realize there's no turning back.
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>>131457090
>On par with Heralds
Ah, so far below Wanda.
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>>131457119
>Monkey doesn't have infinite strength
>Doesn't have gorillion x ftl speed
>Monkeyfags somehow turn this into monkey stomping
Huh?
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>>131457117
His massive physical strength advantage as well
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>>131457090
what's with DC fans and only using predicates? it's annoying
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>>131457162
Cole is pretty strong himself, so I wouldn't say the difference is massive. Dude can pry open the jaws of a Devourer and survive being grabbed by The Beasts matter destroying hands, and he can lift cars and trucks with his arc shit.
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>>131457000
actually the episode has it so Wanda = Zatana and the reason Zatana won was because she's not fucking insane
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>>131457280
Ah, so headcanon. Even worse.
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>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
Hold these L's, schizo
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>>131455768
There’s a small annoying subset of Wanda shutters on /cp/ who defend literally every atrocity she’s done
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>>131457121
>And yes I realize there's no turning back.
>Two unpopular stories that Wanda is barely even in will forever define how people see her, and affect all adaptations of her
It hurts so much
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>>131457380
>Unironic Swank
>Correct outcome but dumb numbers
>Don't care enough
>Don't care at all

Only issue I have here is Dicko, but no one talks about Madara vs Aizen anymore so I don't know why he's there.
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>>131457380
Swap out Madara for Popeye, and that would be more accurate.
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>>131457380
>Swank
>Louxi
>Swank
>Louxi

A common trend.
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>>131457280
official comic books > webshow fanfiction
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>>131457482
>Louxi
>Japan vs Japan

What? That nickname doesn't work when it's anything other than Sun being mentioned.
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>>131455745
I just love Zatanna having fun in the battle. Simple stage magic tricks is enough to beat Wanda
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>Zee tards still trying to bait the nonexistent wandafags
I cachinnate
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>>131457468
Do people really debate whether Popeye wouldn't obliterate Saitama? I know Saitama is brought up a lot, but only when Supes and Goku fanboys want a quick mockery
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>that tard on Otto’s dicksword who thinks dusknoir beats eobard
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>>131457482
Jim already agreed that Sun Wukong would have beaten Hercules. Even in a boxing match in reference to the boxing match he had with a demon.
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>>131457616
>>that tard on Otto’s dick
Which one? There seems to be a lot of those.
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>>131457597
toonforce has always been a controversial thing in battleboarding
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>>131457657
Even then, Popeye's base stat was already above anything shown in One Punch Man ever. Popeye is sun level minimum.
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>>131457622
No he didn't lmao. Quit making shit up, faggot.
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>>131457685
Kowtow now, before I reduce you to nothingness!
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Eh I don't know how powerful Zatanna is but she probably has more control than Wanda. I guess I can see it.
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>>131457742
She's more powerful than Wanda that's for sure
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>>131457117
Otto and his retards both need to be permabanned.
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>>131457271
He's not strong enough to hurl around tanks and tear people apart with his bare hands
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>>131455250
Nice idea, but Avatar fuckstomps
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Who wins
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>>131457730
MonkeyCHADs I kneel
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>>131456273
Nope. It's just another schizo seething and coping
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>>131457313
Nah, they had Zatanna win because she's more skilled in her usage of her magic, which is true.
Cope. It literally came down to who is more skileld.
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>>131457849
Luffy can say the n word so him
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>>131457849
Same analysis as usual

>Luffy beats him into submission between Red Hawk heat and haki but can't fully kill him.

It'd be another Hulk situation
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>>131457730
HERCSISTERS...IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE LOSING ALL OVER AGAIN
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>>131457730
That was before the DB actually came out, retard.
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>>131456857
Strong as Superman. Says so right in the comics
Silver-age Superman, that is
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>>131457000
No, because this is hilariously retarded schizo headcanon
So sad
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>>131457898
That was his response to the animation which he thought had an underwhelming ending and that was his suggestion of how they should have done it.
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>>131455745
>>131455768
dcKEKS are this much salty? still?
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>>131457149
>Subdeer speed
>Subcrab defense
>expected to take on Monkey King
Nah
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>>131457684
Yes, but some people feel that the cartoony nature of those shorts (the Sun being personable and a tree being lodged in its eye) is questionable for power scaling
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>>131457898
It wasn't. Those were new additions he was saving for when he had more time. Now, I guess I have to reduce you down to nothingness now
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>>131457927
>no argument
So it IS right. Got it
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>>131457955
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>>131457380
Should be Hal instead of Madara
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>>131455910
>>131455982
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>>131457380
>Not Hal
>Not Garra
>Not Scout
Shit image
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>>131457657
>toonforce has always been a controversial thing in battleboarding
Toonforce should be treated as a form of low level reality warping with a geas attached being it can't allow a character that can use it to win a fight it would be funnier for them to lose.

It should eat shit to high level reality warpers and anyone that it would be funny to lose to.
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>>131457989
those are supposed to be legitimate wins anon
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>>131457730
>Jim stole my Ant-Man kill idea
Based
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>>131457657
Only to complete retards who should be ignored
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>>131458010
>>131457380
Should be

Ben: /co/
Scout: /v/
Goku: /a/
Hercules: /lit/
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>>131457955
>Jim has said he knows nothing about Hercules
So explain to me why we need to take his opinion on how Monkey could win as fact?
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>>131458026
Then why's Dio there?
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>>131457849
Plas no diff
Still
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>>131458026
Even more reason why Madara shouldn't be there then.
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>>131458050
It's funny because he questions obvious bullshit
>Why does Hercules have infinite arrows? Is that a thing?
>Does Hercules have supernatural sight?
>How come a soundwave bothered Monkey?
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>>131458050
Well you if you had a counterargument, you would have posted it, for one.
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>>131457960
It's retarded schizo headcanon
Guess you're too much of a retarded schizo to get that.
Proof's in the pudding, and your concession is accepted. Fucking gg ezzzz kek
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>>131457622
Actually he said Hercules was immortal too
>13. I think this would have only killed Hercules’ mortal half, releasing the god within and prolonging the fight. While sources vary on what caused his apotheosis (virtus vs the 12 Labors vs Gigantomachy deeds), it’s clear that the son of Zeus become a god upon his fiery death (Romero-Gonzalez, 2021).
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>>131458026
Good thing Hal's win is legitimate AF, seething benpedo
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>>131458070
Yeah he does question some stuff for both of them. The dude obviously wants Monkey to win, so of course he's going to come up with a scenario where it's possible. But he's admitted to having little knowledge on Hercules.
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>>131457597
Boy, you've been missing the past few threads, haven't you? Saitamafags have been bringing up him surviving a gamma ray burst as some kind of triumph. The salt still flows.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/131427962/#q131435165
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>>131457815
Who could Lord British fight?
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>>131458050
He was being polite. A normal person who have read multiple translation of each story would know Monkey King would win
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>>131458156
B-b-b-but, Murata described it! He said it was exactly like a Gamma Ray Burst so it is one!
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Unfathomably based, Jim-sama. I knew he was /ourguy/.
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>>131458036
>Referencimg a story that predates Ant-Man
>Stole
Sure
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>>131458247
>draw
Sun Wukong box the shit out of Hercules before he can even blink
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>>131458141
the only thing that's legitimate AF is Alien Force Ben stomping Hal.
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>>131458282
Well I suppose aliens like Chromastone and Upgrade could directly mess with the ring/absorb any Lantern constructs that Hal made, but would Death Battle have the creativity to write something like that? Of course not.
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>>131458156
And? Needing something stronger than a fucking supernova to scratch this guy has got to count for at least one thing, right?
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>>131458156
Well, Popeye survived complete erasure from his Universe's God and illustrator
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>>131458156
what's wrong with Saitama surviving a gamma ray burst?
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>>131458336
>Well I suppose aliens like Chromastone and Upgrade could directly mess with the ring/absorb any Lantern constructs that Hal made, but would Death Battle have the creativity to write something like that? Of course not.
Ring also absorbs energy. And Hal has plenty of experience against objects he can’t touch
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>>131458336
Firstly, they can't. Ben's best energy absorption feat is universe-level, but Hal comes from picrel
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>>131458281
>box
How would monkey box with a guy that's massively stronger than him?
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>>131458354
It's an underrated thing, that's why.
When people bring up "Big explosion" they usually think of supernovas. It's pretty neat to see something so relatively unknown be shown off
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>>131458336
that's probably what would happen in a crossover. i wonder why they never got around to making one. i mean, warner owns both dc comics and cartoon network right?
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>>131458396
If you wanna know what happens in a crossover, Ben’s writers have said he can’t beat Hal or any DC A lister
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>>131458375
the initial expansion can't be likened to any models we have today and is largely a useless figure
magno verse saw the planet earth as an atom severely limiting how big it can be relative to the universe (they would fit in it)
what do the spatial dimensions of a snowflake have to do with the size of a single universe?
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>>131458336
Upgrade is too slow and Chromosome has a limit to how much energy he can absorb. Heck, even Feedback was ripped out of his Omnitrix and killed. The Ring quite literally become whatever you imagine it to be
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>>131458415
so? quit being so insecure i was talking about ben messing with the ring
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>>131458375
133,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. That's how many fucking earths there are in DC.
Each is 436,117,077,000,000,000 x 120,000,000,000,00 lightyears
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>>131458453
5,233,404,924,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to be exact, actually. That, multiplied by the thingy, means that DC's multiverse is, at the fucking least
696,042,854,892,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 lightyears.
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>>131457730
Would have been a better ending than the weird astral clash for sure.
Also shoutout to the people who said Herc could "just squeeze" the monkey massively faster than him who can heal any wound, shapeshift, and turn ant-sized/thousands of times larger.
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>>131458507
what are you talking about? all earths share the same physical space in dc
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>>131458541
5,233,404,924,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Okay, so just that much.
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>>131458375
Seeing this stitched together from three different writers up to decades apart is funny.
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>>131458375
>Firstly, they can't.

As in mess with the ring or absorb energy from it? Cause Chromastone's main gig is being silicone and absorbing energy. Obviously grabbing the ring itself as Chroma would be a bad idea and would end with him "dying" but then that would just lead to Ben auto switching to Diamondhead. Anyhow, he does have a lot of tinkering and absorbing aliens at his disposal.

Alien races like the Galvins and Cerebrocrustaceans could (theoretically) come up with a disruptor for the ring or see how it cracks given the time, aliens like Upchuck could (theoretically, again) eat through energy constructs and spit them back at Hal, aliens like Ghost Freak could mess with the ring from the inside if he doesn't get blasted with willpower, Feedback could potentially absorb whatever's thrown at him, Upgrade could fuck with the watch if he managed to get up close to it.

Really Ben had some good things to throw at Hal, and it will always make me seethe knowing DB just looked at Alien X and went "ooga booga strungest alien" without considering his other options in a fight, since that's part of Bens deal.
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>>131458648
>Alien races like the Galvins and Cerebrocrustaceans could (theoretically) come up with a disruptor for the ring or see how it cracks given the time,
No real way of doing that with a GL around
>aliens like Upchuck could (theoretically, again) eat through energy constructs and spit them back at Hal,
Hal can do the same
>aliens like Ghost Freak could mess with the ring from the inside if he doesn't get blasted with willpower,
Able to affect intangible and turn intangible
>Feedback could potentially absorb whatever's thrown at him,
As could Hal
>Upgrade could fuck with the watch if he managed to get up close to it.
It’s not a robot. It’s willpower concentrated.
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>>131458548
why did you multiply the number of spatial dimensions by the diameter measured in light years?
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>>131458560
in a good or bad way?
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>>131458718
I'm not even sure myself. It does make me curious what the writers of each would think of these being used in relation to each other like this.
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>>131458682
Because each rotation makes a new earth
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>>131458648
Not enough power or durability
>>131458668
>Hal can eat his own constructs
Wait what
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>>131458736
the number of spatial dimensions a given thing has is vectorial
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>>131458648
I almost forgot, he also has his weirder options like Goop and Nanomech, and aliens that just make him invincible.

>>131458668
>It’s not a robot. It’s willpower concentrated.

Unless you meant it's not technology, then Upgrade can still mess with it. It's able to affect things that aren't even tech, like gym machinery and such.

>Able to affect intangible and turn intangible

Really he wouldn't even need to do that much since GF gets fucked by light regardless. And for the Upchuck and Feedback ones, it'd really just turn into an eating and spitting contest between them and Hal.

It also surprises me that they didn't include Echo Echo shit, like how Ben could turn into EE, split and then de-transform to have multiple of himself. God it will always piss me off that they just made it a swinging match in that DB.
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>>131458393
Yes, even if we discount his several universal-multiversl feat(density volume shifting,Yellow Wind Demon, 100,000 Heaven army, Dragon King, Sumeru). Hercules have shown internal and external vulnerability with fire, lion bites, and crab. Also the speed difference is so massive even if you give Hercules combat and running speed the calculated arrows' sun speed 90 times C(speed of light), he is not even close to tagging Wukong, let alone tanking Wukong's blitzing speed. Quindecillion faster in fact. All Wukong really needed to do is infinite mass punch(white dwarf star) Hercules and he's dead. He can do it too considering that it's reference that can move stars and constellations at his whim.

TL;DR, massively nerfed Wukong > Wanked Hercules
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>Hal beats ben, fucking Jaden beats ben
>Gwen loses to Atom eve and Terra Branford
>Kevin loses to Absorbing man and Metamorpho
>Vilgax loses to Ridley and Megatron

Forget Ozone club, Ben 10 just stays in the abyss, it's almost sad.
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>>131458798
Anon your post, though I don't think it was your intention, really gave me a reality check me how absurd powerscaling has gotten.
The Flash said he only needed to run at light speed to throw a punch as strong as a white dwarf.
Think about how many characters Death Battle has given light speed to, and the ridiculous implications of that.
DIO, Spider-Man, and Obi-Wan Kenobi running around punching with the force of stars. How'd it wind up like this.
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>>131458885
>He thinks Gwen loses to Eve
>He thinks Kevin is gonna fight anyone other than Rex after Omni-Man vs HL

Vilgax is for Thragg or Battle Beast by the way, but what makes you think Gwen loses to Eve of all people? Anodite form is an instant win since Eve can't affect energy.
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>>131458885
I love Ridley but I feel like he'd lose to Vilgax unless they gave him phazon bullshit.
I don't mind though, dying is Ridley's entire brand.
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>>131458798
>Yes, even if we discount his several universal-multiversl feat(density volume shifting,Yellow Wind Demon, 100,000 Heaven army, Dragon King, Sumeru).
All were debunked by Jim. Monkey doesn't have a single universal feat.

>Hercules have shown internal and external vulnerability with fire, lion bites, and crab.
Monkey has been disemboweled by normal weapons.

>Also the speed difference is so massive even if you give Hercules combat and running speed the calculated arrows' sun speed 90 times C(speed of light), he is not even close to tagging Wukong, let alone tanking Wukong's blitzing speed.
Wukong isn't that fast, not even Jim buys into the speed wank. Hercules has Zeus and other god scaling, so he's faster.

TL:DR Hercules >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actual Monkey King
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>>131458937
not even at light speed, but half of light speed
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>>131455745
If Zatanna really is that powerful how is there any true tension in the dcu?
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>>131458798
not that anon and i have no horse in this race but /ourguy/ Jim said Wukong's cloud somersault is a metaphor for instant travel (sound familiar?) instead of actual speed.
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>>131457525
You leave Mystic alone! He showed great courage. We are in his debt.
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>>131459071
Characters in comics, especially the stronger ones, will job more than anyone else in any media. They are either all powerful or helpless depending on what the plot needs.
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>>131458937
>Spider-Man has FTL punches
>Regularly beats on Kingpin
>Kingpin can tag Peter and take hits from him
>KP is, by default, FTL with Star level durability

Bakifags, your time is soon. The Kingpin will be moving into Japan one of these days.
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>>131459071
The only tension in modern dc is which character is turning gay next
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>>131459095
i wonder if they'll take Baki's hyperbolic light speed jab at face value in that regard, but serious Spidey is >>>>>>> Fisk in speed and Baki si >>>>>>>> Hanayama in speed so it's a bit of a moot point. unless they run with pic related lol
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>>131458247
>Draw win
Jim, my brother!
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>>131459118
>DB rules the INFINITE SPEED Hanayama could blitz the sluggish TRILLION TIMES FASTER THAN LIGHT Kingpin
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>>131459118
>The "HES SO FAST IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S STANDING STILL!" joke but taken seriously

I'm not sure if this was meant to be serious or not, but I'm hoping to God that it's ironic.
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>>131459156
do you have autism?
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>>131458247
He's 100% correct, it would have been classy and respectful to have the two respect each other as legends in their own rights.
But DB is the show that animated the death of a deceased man who has living family last year.
They have absolutely zero class.
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>>131458247
Objectively the best and only rightful outcome regardless of who's stronger
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>>131459168
That is the exact feel I'm getting from this panel, though it is just an OOC page so I could be wrong about the intent.
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>>131459214
iirc the guy Baki was fighting was Pickle. Pickle has a rather primitive mind given that he's a caveman. Baki blitzed him without much issue, so to him Baki surpassed speed itself as he knew it. but it's much more fun to say Bakiverse = Wally West and Arche Sonic peaks in speed
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>>131459118
Hanayama is actually bullshit levels of physically strong. His grip is compared to the fucking Marianas trench at one point. And it's not hyperbole, considering he's able to squeeze hard enough that he can fuse glass together.
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>>131459001
>All were debunked by Jim. Monkey doesn't have a single universal feat.

He only disagreed with the sumeru feat holding up the sky which was different from another scholar believes. There's there's still numerous other feats and scaling.

>Monkey has been disemboweled by normal weapons.

Just because he can make himself squishy enough doesn't mean anything to his actual abilities. The heavens tried every edged weapon, fire, and lightning available and not even a single hair was damaged. He's a density shifting and shape shifting Monkey who can turn himself into mist and become completely invisible, of course he can make his body behave like normal flesh. Also why does it matter when it was a display of his impossible immortality(can instantly regrow and attach severed limbs and head).

>Wukong isn't that fast, not even Jim buys into the speed wank. Hercules has Zeus and other god scaling, so he's faster.

That's the one where he debunks the G1 guys on the Zeus scaling.

This is just pure cope from the loser. Monkey King atominized Hercules with a single speed blitz with or without universal/multiversal(Hercules doesn't even have multiverse feats) scaling
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>>131459297
You can choose a high end and you can choose a low end in the way of interpretations. We know Hanayama could crater walls by punching people against them and we know he got at least 4 times stronger in the span between the childhood saga and the maximum tournament, and he just kept getting stronger but after the MT it's a bit nebulous
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>>131459357
Actually, let me look at Hanayama's grip feats
>Exploding his own father's arm
>Tearing a clean chunk out of a deck of cards
>Exploding Baki's arm
>Pulling a fucking car tire in half
>Tearing out Speck's throat
>Ripping Speck's elbow in half
>The aforementioned glass thing
All that jazz. Am I missing anything?
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>>131459420
Hanging onto the side of a speeding car with just his finger tips
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>>131459087
If it's instant, that's even faster than Wally West feat since he teleported in a universal-metaversal speed. DB said he went to the edge of the universe(Hindu-Buddhist) in a second. Meaning it's Quattuordecillion times faster than what's calculated. 1 second is 10^44 Planck instance if it's translated as instant travel.
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>>131459504
>Faster than Wally West
Bros, Goku speedblitzes tge Flash?!
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>>131459420
His best feat is making non demon back Yujiro get a bloody nose.
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>>131459420
He didn't tear Spec's throat out, he just exploded his neck and crushed his throat the way he does limbs (more uniquely brutal IMO) but he did rip a handful of Spec's inner thigh out. He also easily overpowered Musashi's grip. Musashi's grip is so strong he can be punched several meters back by Yujiro while the latter is holding onto his blade, and they both fly backwards because Musashi doesn't let go of the sword handle. Musashi's grip also matched Pickle's, and Pickle could physically overpower 100+ ton dinosaurs and flip triceratops like they're chairs
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>>131459504
I was talking about teleportation, and plancks aren't literally instantaneous (assigning plancks to instants for myth just seems like a foolish endeavor, more so than giving the firmament the mass of the observable universe)
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>>131459542
In fact, Pickle compared Hanayama to a triceratops
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>>131459518
Well, Wally beat it because he went beyond Planck instance in that comic. That's why the cosmic gambler were so surprised on how they lost. Trans time velocity is so beyond speed isn't even a factor anymore. He's has shown it numerous time and have been getting really good with it(beat himself in a race, arrive before you were even there, outran death, etc.)
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>>131458253
Monkey doesn't explode anyone from the inside in JttW.
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>>131459617
Pretty sure Baki dinosaurs are stronger than real life dinosaurs. At most, a really big triceratops charging can only manage to bust down a wall, yet Hanayama can create pressure compared to underwater trenches.
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>>131459661
>She refuses to submit, so Pilgrim uses his magic to make her vomit up countless monkeys without end. When she still refuses to surrender, he takes the form of an ever-growing stone in her stomach, causing it to explode. The spirit is finally destroyed when Monkey orders the Yakşa to crush her with his cudgel.
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>>131459118
Isn't one of the problems with using Baki characters in Death Battle is that most of the series was translated by a legitimate mentally ill egotistical bastard? Who made up a lot of shit in the series like statements, edited some of the pictures, added random plotlines and also changed Baki's birthday into his own. Like two feats that he changed from the real manga that I remember from the top of my head were Baki's Cockroach Dash and Yuujiro shaking a skyscraper before his fight with Baki.
In the Dash one he wrote something like "it can go 200mph in 0.001 seconds" but the raws only had the speed, the time he put in was made up. And the skyscraper was shaking because of a real earthquake unrelated to Yuujiro, what it really showed was that Yuujiro and Baki can stand perfectly still and unmoving from an earthquake.
Like the only legitimate translations for the series is from the fucking Netflix anime and that only covers Part 2 and less than half of part 3. The series currently has 5 parts
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>>131459617
Yeah, in traction too. It's always flattering to compare a biped to a quadruped in traction man
>>131459674
they have to be stronger for the setting to be coherent. freaking Yuri from the childhood saga could kill an IRL T-Rex or a Triceratops with a couple of punches. they also look gigantic compared to their IRL counterparts, from bone structure to proportions to overall size. i wish someone would calc how big the argentinosaurus pickle fought would've been, since the width of its foot was almost as broad as Pickle's wingspan and Pickle is upwards of 8 feet tall with disproportionately long limbs
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>>131459734
The official translator was mentally ill or was it one of the fan translators that do it for free. If it was the fan translations then I doubt DB would be using them anyhow.
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>>131459734
>a legitimate mentally ill egotistical bastard
worse. a Chilean.
nevertheless, you are correct, but Spinyback has been doing some quality work since Musashi. We had an official NGB manga translation, too. the first OVA covers Baki's fights with Suedo and Kosho Shinogi, while the 2001 anime covers the childhood saga and the maximum tournament in chronological order. then netflix picked up on new grappler, for which we already had a translation, and then dipped their toes into the prison arc of Son of Ogre. Next up is Pickle, then the Father-Son Fight and then Musashi. Ichido added some... odd things to the series:
>Yujiro threatening to kill Kozue if she and Baki don't make strong offspring
>Doyle cutting the ropes before being hanged
>Oliva bleeding out from a flesh wound
>Doppo "purchasing" Katsumi (literal human trafficking)
etc
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>>131459734
>Wild Fang Project
That guy likes to make his own fanfiction because he's a known Jack hater and likes well-done steaks, he made it Yujiro's favorite. People have caught on to Ichido's BS and started their own translation team.
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>>131459764
It was a fan translator but his translations were the most well known to anybody who read the manga in English for the longest time. Like when the Netflix anime came out some people were complaining that they changed the script when in reality the manga translations they were reading were mostly bullshit.
Although thinking about it it should be easy to pick out the best feats from a character and just look at the original Japanese to see if it's legit. Now I'm just thinking Death Battle will just scale everybody to a few sets of feats and be done with it like they do with most comic characters.
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>>131459348
>He only disagreed with the sumeru feat holding up the sky which was different from another scholar believes.
Right, and that's the only feat he has that could be wanked as multiversal.

>Just because he can make himself squishy enough doesn't mean anything to his actual abilities. The heavens tried every edged weapon, fire, and lightning available and not even a single hair was damaged.
He says this while knowing that Monkey has been injured dozens of times and got stung by a scorpion. Sounds like the chink that wrote the book should have been more consistent.

>That's the one where he debunks the G1 guys on the Zeus scaling.
He never debunked Zeus scaling when he knows fuck all about Greek mythology.

Pathetic monkey cope.
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>>131459764
Wild Fang is not official. Spiny Back is not either, but their translation is pretty legit
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>>131460011
Scorpion so powerful it hurt the Buddha himself. At this point, you're just going your trangent. Heck, Myth Thor can probably defeat Hercules and he's only planet level at best.
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>>131455850
As a Pred Bro I am sad to see not as much discussion as I hoped for it. I tried making Boba Fans mad for even a little interaction but like only one bit the bait.
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>>131460325
There was some good discussion in that first thread or after. Afterwards, fags with grudges started shitting up the threads. Saitamafags, Wandafags, Bayofags. To be honest, we should probably report anyone talking about view numbers. They're always insufferable faggots that post like tourists from /v/, focused on marketing metrics as the sole measure of quality.
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>>131460384
Ironic post
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>>131460061
> Myth Thor can probably defeat Hercules and he's only planet level at best.
Chink hands typed this post.
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>>131460855
Post skin color now
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>>131461098
Aw, is the rice nigger upset?
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>>131460061
the thing is that after going off on how powerful the Buddha is it stops being a good thing for the scorpion and it starts being a bad thing for the Buddha you know what i'm saying?
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>>131459644
transtime velocity wasn't beyond speed, and their instant teleportation wasn't instant since it had a signal and a time frame from point a to point b
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>>131456273
Script of the unreleased 70s crossover that was canonized in JLA/Avengers.
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>>131460384
it's always easy to shitpost incorrect fights, same has happened with Gaara, Doomguy, Alucard, and Toph
people enjoy rubbing Death Battle its mistakes to their lurking spies
you aren't not getting banned nor deleted anyone for that here
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>>131461989
Doomguy fucking lost. Nobody likes him
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>>131461997
and as long as those aren't fixed, people can keep complaining about them, over and over
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So
Reed<Luffy<Plastic Man<Reed with science bullshit
Right?
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>>131462134
Is this exactly backwards?
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>>131462134
Don't know about Luffy so excluding him, yes, that's accurate. Reed is a preplord
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>>131460384
>People don't have the right to complain about wrong or outdated verdicts
If anything, treating what Death Battle says as gospel is more retarded, so nothing wrong with complaining. It's called freedom of speech.

The views-thingy is just a silly popularity metric. It's just people comparing their dick sizes.
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Do these matchups seem fair?
>Geralt of Rivia vs Elric of Melniboné
>El Zorro vs Jack Sparrow
>Starlord vs Commander Shepard
>Scott Pilgrim vs Travis Touchdown
>Brock Samson vs Stan Smith
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>>131462700
Geralt and Scott get assbeat HARD. No opinion on the others
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>>131462522
But Zatanna beats Wanda, Dante beats Bayo, and Popeye beats Saitama. They're complaining about fights they got right.
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>>131462757
Nah, wait for that guy shilling Guts vs Geralt to show up. He'll make a dumbshit argument about how Geralt could totally take Elric despite knowing nothing about him, as he knows nothing about Guts.
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>>131460384
>Muh views
DB now struggles to get a million views on most of their videos in the first week.
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>>131462700
Blood and souls for my lord Arioch, Geralt dies.
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>>131462792
Geralt beats Guts after a hard fight. Cry about it cuck.
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>>131462792
>>131462811
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Is reality warping the most jobbing superpower in fiction?
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>>131455850
I guess it's just gonna be one of those episodes where people talk about anything BUT the one they're doing. There's another thread right now that uses the appropriate TN, but there's only like 15 replies. I haven't been in these threads for a couple days now, so I don't how much discussion about the upcoming fight got done. So far, what's the consensus on who wins?
>>131462700
I'm just assuming Starlord wins because comic scaling or something. And the only way I could see Scott beating Travis is in DBX. Zorro vs Sparrow sounds like ti's the most fair, but I don't know much about Zorro and it's been ages since I've seen PotC.
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>>131462851
no, it's being a god
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>>131462851
No, super strength is. Whenever a new villain or w/e shows up, you're the one that gets turned into a jobber to prop them up.
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>>131458885
How the fuck Jaden beats Ben???
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>>131462786
Saitama fanboys when he's in a "serious" fight
>lols he's a gag character, don't you get he's supposed to be funni haha?
Saitama fanboys when he's in a gag fight
>nooo my animu fighter is super cereal!! Didn't you see him punch that alien n edgelord??
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Who would be a good matchup for massively FTL Kingpin?
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>>131462968
massively FTL tertiary Batman-Catwoman-Flash scaling Penguin?
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>>131458885
>Gwen loses to Atom Eve
The fact that Gwen can do magic gives her the win. Unless you give her a more ftl speed wank she's fucked.
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>>131462968
Big Fisk, meet... BIG RIGS!
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>>131462872
Doesn't scott punch so hard, he can make opponents see the curve of the earth? I don't know if travis can match that with his base powers.
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>>131462998
Gwen doing magic was always so fucking confusing, but at least it gives her bullshit stuff like being able to make an infinite time army of herself.
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>>131463015
>MKUltra punches that make people see the firmament as a globe
these superpowers get whackier every year i tell you
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>>131462786
Anon, the current research team disagrees with Bayonetta vs Dante. Just like they did with Tifa vs Yang, Gaara vs Toph, and Bowser vs Ganondorf. That one is easy to point out that something went wrong. Stomp fights shouldn't even be part of these arguments. When Ben stubbornly ignores most of his crewmates' decisions, it's hard to defend a wrong verdict.

Eventually Ben can concede, like with Cloud and Tifa's matches, although in Tifa's case, it was kinda half-assed and cowardly. Everybody suspects that the research team was even forced to delete their very first blog posts, to make it harder to shit on Ben and RT for sabotaging that Death Battle.

>>131461997
>Doomguy fucking lost. Nobody likes him
Easy to tell how scared you are about him getting a rematch, for very obvious reasons. No wonder.
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>>131462800
At least there have been two very popular episodes in the recent three seasons, Omni Man and Broly's episodes. But DCfags in particular seem to hate viewfags, because since season 7, it's easy to tell that DC fights have been going down in numbers.
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>>131457066
But Alex can regenerate eating random civilians. If he eats some viral mutant he just gets stronger, if he eats someone with powers from Infamous universe, chances are he's going to use those powers with same power and mastery as the original user, since he also absorbs memories of people he eats. Plus Alex can be stealthy when he wants to, even if by just morphing into different people. If we're talking Good!Cole, then Alex eats someone who Cole knows and trusts, Alex gets close, stabs and consumes him.
It's still insane to me that Prototype was created because a game about Venom went nowhere.
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>>131463152
please don't tell me that's why it's called "Prototype"
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>>131463166
I don't think so, just a cool sounding word that can be kind of explained that Alex is a prototype of a new type of life, a virus with human sentience.
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>>131463016
If you're talking about that 'magic isn't real, you have powers because you're an anodite' retcon
The writers tried to sound cool by saying that magic, mutants and other stuff in original Ben 10 wasn't real and all that was ayy lmao stuff so Gwen stopped doing magic and started to act like discount green lantern. But absolutely nobody liked that so they did another retcon to make magic real again and now Gwen can do magic and non magic energy attacks/constructions
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>>131455866

>DB says he Herc is out matched in a contest of strength.
>DB says SonWukon has speed advantage
>OK so Monkey key should use some sort of clever way to use his speed and get the upper hand on Herc right
>NOPE make Herc lose in a contest of strength.

I WILL EXCEPT IT WHEN IT MAKES SENSE BUT FOR NOW IT'S BULLSHIT.
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>>131463152
Oh, and if we're talking about attacks that are hard to see coming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIBIBNfwuWo
At least enough to catch Cole off guard.
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>>131456263
>The people here who got angry about it weren't fans of Wanda herself, more general Marvel fans angry about what the implications of that battle would mean for other Marvel vs DC battles they could do.
Every fandom around here already knows that Death Battle as a whole is rigged, so that DC wins all the high powerlevel matches, and just loses the Batman ones. They balance DC's W:L ratio in such a lazy ass way. Even Sonicfags hate DC and Death Battle at this point. If not even Marvel is allowed to beat DC's mid-tiers, and at best they are just allowed to beat Superman's punching bags, then other IPs have less of a shot.
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>>131458112
what mental illness is needed to make posts like this one?
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>>131462134
Which means Reed would win since DB includes prep time now.
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>>131463250
>no argument
>necroposting
Assblasted retarded schizo detected
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>>131456697
>Zatanna is a legitimate high tier
Not even in Vsbattles she makes it to universal. And that site is infamous for overwanking everyone.

The Batkek who died to the Sun is outversal, damn it.
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>can only win with a edgy hedgehog
Vegetabros, how did this happen?
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>>131463274
and this one too, what mental illness do you have?
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>>131463305
Cause he's enhancement talent. A jobber who only exist to make Toriyama's villians look stronk and goku look powerful
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>>131463015
>Doesn't scott punch so hard, he can make opponents see the curve of the earth?
How does that even work? Does that mean he essentially kicked a man into orbit?
>I don't know if travis can match that with his base powers.
Using his own fists and such? Not really, though his beam katana is pretty strong. If you allow me to use a gameplay section from the first game, then any one of his katanas could protect Travis from a laser as wide as a road. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl9H4NGxqPI&t=141s
Granted, Travis gets pushed back and it does drain the battery. So the katana could potentially take a lot, but maybe not as much as whatever force is need to do what Scott did.
>>131463046
Heh.
>>131463253
>DB includes prep time now.
What do you mean?
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>>131463305
My guy you gotta tell me where you found this and if there's one for Goku?
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>>131463364
https://youtu.be/TN2LL1i3exY
16:24
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>>131463305
Ha ha fucking saved, put this alongside it.
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>>131463406
Goku would defeat Usagi though
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>>131463295
If I remember correctly Zatanna used the power of a demon that she previously trapped in a jar to fight Zor but at the end she only manage to temporaly stop him and that demon died so she broke the 4th wall asking the own writers for help before Zor can recover, the writers were surprised by that action and decided to help her.
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>>131463429
Yeah sure.
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>>131463443
>4th wall breaking fallacy
So she's Deadpool and Pi^&*$ P@% tier. Into the trash she goes.
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>>131463443
That's a wildly inaccurate recounting. She used her pet genie to match Zor form for form in an astral duel of the mind, and she pulled the rug from under Zor, meaning she took the battlefield, which Zor became; she yanked it down like a curtain because magic does not care for physics, especially in metaphorical combat. After failing to put Zor down she beseeched the Time Tailors to save her and the world, which was a visual effect and not breaking the 4th wall (embarrassing misconception by Swan) and they were the ones who put Zor down
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>>131463443
>>131463490
Then this feat was more like Tien stopping Cell than Zee being equal to Zor?
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>>131463406
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>>131463443
>>131463490
>>131463540
Yeah. Swan cannot even get right basic Mario lore. He thought that the real King Boo was Bowser's underling.
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>>131463540
No, she did subdue Zor alongside the genie (for a brief moment; the Tailors acknowledged this). She was straddling and choking him, but she couldn't keep him down, he even resisted her "DLEIY" command WHILE he was downed, but you know how it is with magic, as above so below, so what happened in the swamp was a reflection of what was happening in the astral planes. Anyway, she wasn't = or > Zor since she was only able to pull the rug from under him thanks to the genie letting her get that far in the first place and Zatanna even acknowledged that was a gigantic asspull because Morrison is a hack when he writes metaphysics.
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>>131463549
Fucking LOL that is perfect.
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This is the 2nd time I notice Zatanna and DCfags shitting on Bayonetta out of nowhere. And now their rants include also Saitama. I understand them hating Wanda and Marvel fags, but wow, they have become that paranoid.
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>>131461748
Scripts aren’t canon
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>>131463631
there's a lot of that. there's known incidents of Halposters being salty Vergilfags
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>>131463295
They always downplay comics
They have Thor at island level
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>>131455981
All ficton is a fanfic retard
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>>131463641
Cope
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I feel that this thread was made with the intention of shitting on Wanda, and ironically everyone instead ended up ganging out against DC and Death Battle.
https://youtu.be/cIFtz7bPuUk
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>>131455981
>>131456857
>>131456965
>>131457482
What do you gain from being so obsessively angry about a person that barely knows you exist?
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>>131463654
>They have Thor at island level
not anymore
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>>131463681
I don’t see any fight.
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>>131463695
There's a lot of people I hate that don't know I exist, you faggot. Most of them are in my shitty government.
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>>131463305
At least vegeta isn't sakura whose only wins are against Hermione (lol) and possibly Katara
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>>131457380
Naruto doesnt exist
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>>131455798
Spbp
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Death Battle is a popularity contest, not an objective analysis of skills or power. I can't imagine taking it seriously.
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Could that 2-C Kratos defeat Wonder Woman?
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>>131458010
Dodnt scout lose his fight?
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>>131459071
Zatanna, in a normal setting, should be universal at her best. The problem here is that Death Battle is making her comparable in power to a Life Force-empowered Wanda, a powerup that even Doom claimed was greater than Pre-retcon Beyonder who was already more powerful than the entirety of the Marvel multiverse. And in the same breath claim that marvel and DC has similar verses. Think about the logic and implications behind it.
That's not even covering the fact that there were plenty of times where Zatanna's spells simply did not work against powerful beings than her, beings that Wanda should've normally scaled to WITHOUT the Life Force. They just neglected to add or mention that at all.

In short, Zatanna is powerful for sure, but take the most consistent mainstream version of Zatanna and Wanda together, give a Life Force power-up to the latter, add in the context of the logic that both verses are similar in scale, and the pendulum should swing to Wanda. Unfortunately, the Swank got to her.
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>>131463698
>Battling each other?
Probably because you're retarded
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>>131457880
Plas has superman scaling doesnt he?
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It doesn't even matter how powerful they are, both Zatanna and Wanda are glass cannons who can one-shot each other. The only thing that matters is who's quicker on the draw
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>>131463753
Fernus (Alterego of Martian Manhunter) jobbing to him.
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>>131463759
>The only thing that matters is who's quicker on the draw
I'm sure even Omni Man could beat Zatanna then.
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>>131463765
Wukong kinda already did. The Amazon shill fight was also okay, I guess.
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>>131463753
He doesn't. Superman in Bizarro's body manhandled him and a white martian, said to be equal to Superman in all attributes, melted him in half with heat vision. Doomsday also ripped him apart. Plas is just an overrated mid.
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>>131463744
>The problem here is that Death Battle is making her comparable in power to a Life Force-empowered Wanda, a powerup that even Doom claimed was greater than Pre-retcon Beyonder who was already more powerful than the entirety of the Marvel multiverse
Reminder literally all she ever did with it was make one universe and that Doom was getting beaten by fucking Cassie Lang
If we look at their most direct feats. Zatanna being able to destroy Zor’s magical universe and Wanda creating and destroying the House of M reality. It looks even. Until you remember she needs the Life Force to get to Universal.
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>>131457468
Go watch the dislikes in Madara's video.

Aizen faggots actually thought their epic troll master had better illusions than the average sharingan user.
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>>131463771
>even Omni-Man
Any competent street tier can beat Zatanna.
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>>131463765
hal jordan vs chris hansen
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>>131462786
Bayonetta completely destroys Dante. So youre wrong.
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>>131463681
The context of that line is Wasp telling Superman about the “fact” the Avengers and Justice League worked together before on adventures, against Ultron and Amazo and so. In the same issue The Grandmaster mentioned that Superman was remembering the truth. Rendering the crossover mentioned to be confirmed more non canon than anything. False memories of a false reality. Fitting that’s the only way Wanda can win.
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>>131459348
>Which was different from another scholar
It was not.

Anyone with even a surface level understanding of Buddhist cosmology knows that Sumeru only holds up the lowest heavens.

>>131460325
There's just not many good wincons for Pred, not when Boba will get Jedi scaling and a jetpack. Preds work best when they can use the environment, and Boba has ways to deny Pred the environment.

>>131462700
Elric Rapes.

Zorro wins off Don Q scaling.

Starlord wins easily.

Travis rapes.

Depends on which season Brock is from.
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>>131463794
Hansen vs Predator is the superior matchup, but I guess they've already used Preds for this season.
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>>131463406
Poor goku...
>if he wins against moon
"lol he couldn't defeat superMAN so he had to fight a woman instead"
>if he loses against moon
"lol a woman defeated him"
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>>131463745
I don’t see them directly fighting
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>>131463646
DMCucks are the biggest pussies out there. Ask them for feats to back up that Vergil can defeat Sephiroth, especially if composites allowed, and they will deflect the conversation.
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>>131463810
>pred has no win con-
OH....
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>>131463810
>Jedi scaling
So 10 year old girl and tree stick scaling?
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>>131463786
>Reminder literally all she ever did with it was make one universe
They still applied the same logic to Iron Man's Godkiller and Virtual armor being capable of beating Celestials and universal entities through statements alone where there was literally nothing to back up that the eScape was ever the size of an actual universe or if it was just pure embellishment from the text. This was an argument that /co/ brought up when they doubted that Tony would win against Bruce.

>Doom was getting beaten by fucking Cassie Lang
They mentioned this before as being one of Doom's weaknesses was due to his ego getting in the way, such as when he had the power of the Beyonder and he lost it because he was tricked into getting it sapped by Reed's tech.

>Until you remember she needs the Life Force to get to Universal.
Cute, until you remember that Wanda's power is comparable to that of the Phoenix Force and since then Marvel's constantly been placing as a multiversal being. Even in the latest comics, a supercomputer powered by a celestial's brain stated that Wanda is capable of destroying the Phoenix itself.
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>>131457849
The only way for Luffy to defeat Plastic Man is if he have freezing powers or something that can solidify Plastic even if it's temporarily and then having enough force to launch him to the sun or something like that.
Having better physical stats alone wouldn't be enough to defeat Plastic.
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>>131463854
>Cute, until you remember that Wanda's power is comparable to that of the Phoenix Force and since then Marvel's constantly been placing as a multiversal being. Even in the latest comics, a supercomputer powered by a celestial's brain stated that Wanda is capable of destroying the Phoenix itself.
Cool. Show me the two universes the Phoenix has busted
Seems Wandafags want all the benefits of swank instead of looking at direct feats. Tony’s Celestial scaling is about as valid as Zee’s Pralaya scaling. Which is not at al.
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>>131463870
I cannot believe they will have yet again a mainstream character lose to a comic book literal who with super broken feats from an issue that just ten nerds read.
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>>131463152
>stealth via turning into other people
You know that cole can sense infections via radar pulse, and it is also strong enough to see skeletons of the people he is looking at?
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>>131463901
Don't worry because luffy is going to fight and defeat gon
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>>131459071
Zee opponent is get stronger. N52 JLD is very strong indeed, You can say she is among the high end Zatanna.

It's just Your usual comic characters though. Like Superman, The Flash, Green Lantern. All theoretically could end battle without a tension but yet story dictate them to struggles
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>>131463765
That comes down to wether or not they give Zedd Serpentera. If they do then it’s GG.
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Instead of hiring the chud, they should've used that money to animate more 2D episoces. That's probably why zee vs wanda underperformed...
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>>131463885
>Cool. Show me the two universes the Phoenix has busted
You do realize that you sound retarded saying that, right? Picrel is literally taken from the official Phoenix Force handbook.

>Seems Wandafags want all the benefits of swank instead of looking at direct feats.
That's a disingenous interpretation of people that have a problem with the inconsistent logic that Death Battle obviously has. You ccan jerk off to Wanda in the toilet, bud, I promise no one cares.

>Tony’s Celestial scaling is about as valid as Zee’s Pralaya scaling. Which is not at all.
This is the logic that Death Battle has chosen to dictate the consistency for their episodes, I'm just using their logic to justify why their reasonings for Wanda losing to Zatanna is flawed.
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>>131464007
>Guidebook wank
What else you got?
>this is the logic
Okay so Pralaya scaling is valid then and you can’t bring it up as a reason to bitch
Your reasoning for it to be flaws involved the Beyonder being above the multiverse. But the scales we are talking are omniversal which is infinitesimally bigger
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>>131463744
Death Battle are using the best or the composite version of character anon. If anything Wanda have more advantage with her chaos magic than the standard skill heavy Zatanna on Death Battle. I'm suprised they don't take Zatanna chaos lord form for an equal battle. Pre crisis Zatanna, fight against Zor, Pralaya, Upside Down Man, Mr Mxyzpltk is consistent for me.
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>>131464049
Nigger, they've literally used handbooks before as a metric for scaling. Scaling Pralaya and the Beyonder together is mud because at that point it's just pure speculation from beings that are literally capable of destroying the entriety of their verse. Death Battle has already stated that both verses are the same, so I don't know why you're acting like I'm the one to bitch about it when you can't even bring up scans or statements to refute that Wanda with the Life Force would BTFO Zatanna
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>>131464071
>Scaling Pralaya and the Beyonder together is mud because at that point it's just pure speculation from beings that are literally capable of destroying the entriety of their verse.
The Beyonder is Multiversal sure. But the name of the game is omniverses. Which is bigger. Omniverses have multiverses and more
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>>131459071
>how is there any true tension in the dcu?
There isn't. That's why the comics keep getting rebooted and they have been declining in sales. It's just an inconsistent mess, just like the Snyder-verse.
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>>131463806
>False memories of a false reality. Fitting that’s the only way Wanda can win.
The realities were fused and so we're their histories. Everything still happened. The memories were not "false", the fused reality was simply not supposed to exist in the first place. It's literally the same thing as House of M. Cope, Scarlet Bitch beat Zaturda when much weaker than she is now.
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>>131459101
best post in this thread
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>>131464058
>Death Battle are using the best or the composite version of character anon
My problem is that their usage of logic is inconsistent with what previously established in their own episodes. I don't doubt that Zatanna can be multiversal, the problem is that she has far more weaknesses than what Death Battle lets on and downplays. Zatanna barely won against the Upside Down Man and she was in a realm where her magic was much stronger than usual and she was trying to hold out against Pralaya which I don't think she was even trying at all. That's the same logic they would've used considering they used that reason to justify why Cable fighting the Silver Surfer isn't all it 's cracked up to be.
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>>131464086
>Everything still happened.
Grandmaster outright said that it was t the truth.Just look at what Wanda and her simps cling to
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>>131464095
Then it’s a good thing they’re using a different moment from Zatanna
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>>131463980
>That's probably why zee vs wanda underperformed...
Zatanna is so popular, she missed Injustice's 2 roster.
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>>131463295
Anon...... You know that vs battle DOWNPLAYS marvel rigth? You know large Island thor
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>>131464071
Does Phoenix really not have any universal feats
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>>131464084
>"Marvel and DC have similar verses"
Lookie here, bud. So too does Marvel have an omniverse.
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They fucked up by giving someone as unpopular as as Boba Fett to Predator. It should've been been the Arbiter from Halo 2. lol
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>>131464100
Then what's the point about composites if they're using only one moment. That's just defying the rules you've set in place for your own battles.
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>>131464117
>Arbiter from Halo 2
Who? The franchise with a terrible tv series?
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>>131464097
>Grandmaster outright said [HEADCANON]
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>>131464117
Boba VS Predator is a boomer rivalry, i bet they probably wanted to do it for a while but
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>>131464129
>>131464117

i will say that Arbiter vs Predator is probably a better matchup
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>>131464095
kinda moot when it's also amped UDM. JLD Zee also phasing out all her energy against Pralaya gremlins before so she basically non amped in the final fight. Restoring universes are also far more bigger than just eliminating minorities across universes.

Also it's kinda problem with DC heroes. Superman with Kryptonite, Green Lantern with yellow color, Flash with basically any area attacks. Once they bypass that, they become too overpowered which is kinda hard for writing.
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>>131464112
At this point, the argument is no longer about whether or not Wanda is more powerful than Zatanna, it just becomes an argument of whether you want to be as consistent as Death Battle is. There was literally no claims to back up that Iron Man can defeat Batman in the Hellbat simply by his virtual armor or Godkiller other than to go off statements made by Tony himself that he just simply made a digital universe the size of an actual one, that's not even getting into the arguments of how big of a cyberworld that size can fit into the servers. You just have to take their word for it which is what Death Battle has constantly done to justify the results.
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>>131464113
I didn’t say they didn’t
I said Omniverses were bigger than multiverses. And Beyonder doesn’t have a million times stronger than the Omniverse statement. He only has one about the multiverse
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I don't even know if Boba even needs to rely on non-canon composites to win this fight, like Obi Wan vs Kakashi. The Predator itself could be so weak, that even the canon one from Book of Fett could defeat him.
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>>131464138
Zatanna was barely able to win against UDM, especially when the only way for her to win was to take over his body which she nearly died trying to do. If it weren't for the whole power of friendship bullshit that she got because of the JLD being there, she likely would've been swallowed up. That was an actual reason for why she was able to win by a thin margin.
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>>131464122
What composites? Zatanna was using one continuity
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>>131464129
>bet they probably wanted to do it for a while but
they weren't counting on EU getting decanonized and Disney nerfing Boba? Or the sequel trilogy reducing drastically the brand's value and its fanbase size?
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>>131464164
The Beyond-realm exists outside Marvel's multiverse, if that's not comparable to an Omniverse, I don't know what is
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>>131464186
Well that’s like saying existing outside the universe makes someone above universal or living outside the planet puts you above planetary
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>>131464164
The verse that the Beyonder inhabits exists outside of the multiverse. I'd argue that the Beyondverse is practically comparable to that of the Monitor Sphere with the way it's been described.
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>>131463714
No
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>>131464193
You're arguing semantics when that's obviously not going to be the intentions of the writer or whoever is building up these concepts. It's obvious that people writing a verse outside a multiverse would compare it to their equivalent of Infinity plus one.
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>>131464171
Ahh I like that she can comebacks from being erased by omniversal being. If using this, than it's more than enough against Wanda penchant of erase things.
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>>131463654
they say he varies from island level and hypersonic (?) to galaxy level and MFTL (??) depending on his mood and how much he holds back (???). I get that the guy is nice and all but there's just now way anybody can hold back THAT much
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>>131464195
You know a singular timeline contains a multiverse right?
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>>131464207
>It's obvious that people writing a verse outside a multiverse would compare it to their equivalent of Infinity plus one.
But we know cosmology isn’t limited to mere universes. And we also know Marvel is bigger than just the multiverse as other places outside the multiverse exist and those aren’t automatically omniversal
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>>131464216
By this logic, Booster Gold would solo the Phoenix Force, Franklin Richards, and the Living Tribunal. I get that this is capeshit but I don't think they're without common sense.
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I said it on the day it came out, and say it again: Zatanna vs Wanda is the new Gaara vs Toph.

For the next years the winner side will keep damage controlling the sabotage, while Wandafags keep screeching at them.

And as they said earlier, worst part is that it wasn't even a popular Death Battle episode.
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>>131463806
things happened as presented in that amalgam verse. it created a matrix where these things would happen given prior context such as characters being who they are period. your reasoning is equivalent to saying that you can't die IF i shoot you in the head because i'm not doing that shit right now. and i know you're using your filthy rat paws to type pilpul even as you're reading this post so let me dispel whatever misinformation you may conjecture as a result of this post.
you get shot in the head, you die, simple as that. you may not be shot in the head, but if you were shot in the head you would die. same goes for wanda beating zatanna. they fought and wanda won because the original crossover was canonized. the realities were undone but that does not mean the things did not happen from a Doylist perspective. as a result if you were shot in the head you would die and if zatanna fought wanda she would lose. a kindergartener could grasp this. can you?
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>>131464237
He can’t really do stuff like destroy timelines with a blast
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>>131464225
>And we also know Marvel is bigger than just the multiverse as other places outside the multiverse exist and those aren’t automatically omniversal
It took a comment calling them out on the Hulk vs Broly video for them to realize that Marvel is in the same league with DC in terms of verse scope. But saying that the cosmology only applies to certain regions to avoid the obvious answer that the writer quite literally meant everything, it's just not making sense. The only way for this to be correct is to not have common sense applied to the capeshit narration.
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>>131463885
a portion of the Phoenix managed to get the entire multiverse to collapse in on itself. for context the guy that did this WAS using just a portion of the Phoenix he acquired in a previous story, he didn't even have the whole thing.
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>>131464241
>things happened as presented in that amalgam verse.
So not 616 Wanda and Not Earth-One Zatanna but alterrate versions of them created by the Grandmaster?
And no the crossover wasn’t canon. It’s outright said to be a false reality that Superman and Captain America knew wasn’t true. Imagine wanking something the characters in-universe say isn’t the truth
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>>131464267
It happened with the characters in that story and even the characters themselves recalled it. Sorry but this is undeniable.
Not a false reality, just not the right one. It's why they were both acting like schizoids, because they knew something was off.
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What did /co/ think of this one?
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>>131464262
>It took a comment calling them out on the Hulk vs Broly video for them to realize that Marvel is in the same league with DC in terms of verse scope
That was about whether a Marvel universe was bigger than the observable universe. Which has nothing to do with multiverses or Omniverses
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>>131464122
Composite thing are taking any good parts of each elements. It's still consistent from Death Battle to take best form of each combatants. You don't see they are using DCAMU Supes that smacked around, Yellow weakness of Hal, DCAMU Flash that get countered anyone with area attack. Granted DC arguably is more inconsistent and willing to humiliate their heroes but yet it's still not detaining their best forms which is usually hilariously far more powerful than their regular form
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>>131464274
Well no since Grandmaster said I wasn’t the truth. None of that reality existed before mere moments ago. Now that’s something undeniable. Wanda had never faced anyone as strong as Zatanna before. Which is why she lost. You were even outright told those are fake
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>>131464276
That's not the point, my point is, is that Death Battle is taking Marvel as a serious contender. It wasn't long ago that they blatantly said that Marvel rarely has anyone with lightspeed-reaction times. My point is that there is a level of bias involved in their decision making, especially if Swan's involved.
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>>131464286
Because it wasn't the right versions of the verses. Nigger the destabilizations happened in the first place because Krona kept forcing the universes together, not because they were in the damn Matrix. I understand this must be difficult for a DCultist but it's a pill you're gonna have to swallow
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>>131464275
I loved the matchup and the outcome, and I'm deeply saddened that in current DB standards Wolverine could blitz via being scaled to ""light timers"" like Iron Fist was
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>>131464195
the monitors still exist in the cosmology, the beyonder is supposed to be outside of that
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>>131464164
Beyonder's narration statement said he had more power than everything IN the multiverse combined times a million. Mephisto and Hela alone are omniversal, never mind the Phoenix via scaling it to Wanda, Chthon and the LifeForce existing (sources of HoM power), the IG, the cosmic cubes etc you don't want to get autistic about this bro
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>>131464264
In that story they outright pointed out Necrom wasn’t that powerful otherwise he would have just killed them. They figured out he wasn’t the one causing it. He only said to trick Rachel into unleashing the Phoenix. It’s as a side effect of the cosmic lynchpin the Phoenix made. Not something the Phoenix can actually do. In that very story, Rachel needed to combined with several others because their specific powers when used together was greater than the sum of its parts
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>>131464275
Wolverine should have won and easily at that.
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>>131464306
>Because it wasn't the right versions of the verses.
So alternate versions of Wanda and Zatanna with completely different histories possibly fought in a thing that Superman and Captain America knew wasn’t true. I know as a Marvelfag it’s hard to function with an IQ below room temperature but please try to understand. So much cope over the fact Wanda could never match Zatanna
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>>131464378
>Mephisto and Hela alone are omniversal, never mind the Phoenix via scaling it to Wanda, Chthon and the LifeForce existing (sources of HoM power), the IG, the cosmic cubes etc you don't want to get autistic about this bro
Well Life Force is universal as was House of M so that sounds right
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>>131464275
ah yes, back before even street levels from capeshit would scale to celestials. Those were the good times.
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>>131464390
You're conflating two different story elements that have nothing to do with one another. And who's "them" anon? He needed Rachel to bring forth the Phoenix Force, he wasn't just going to kill her. And the supposed linchpin of yours was a gateway to every universe all at once. You see, the multiverse already WAS by the time the "linchpin" was set in place. What he was doing was making all the universes overlap spatially, causing the whole thing to collapse in on itself.
>>131464408
No, and I refuse to entertain your retardation any longer. You're either an ignorant retard or a little gremlin baiting, probably the latter going off that Vegetard a few threads back.
>>131464438
You want my (You)'s this badly, just get on your knees and beg for them. No need to bait, I'm gregarious.
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It's funny how easy you can tell the tripfag is here even when he doesn't have his trip on.
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>half of [company i like] is multiversal and the other half is omniversal
>no no no you can't do the same with my rival company
why are *they* so pathetic and transparent?
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>>131464216
care to elaborate?
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>>131464721
Yeah, I hate Naruto haters too.
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>>131464736
You foolish fool. I was talking about Yu-Gi-Oh! naysayers.
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If we see it as all of DC creation vs all of the Marvel conception of the Omniverse wouldn't Wanda absolutely fucking DWARF Zatanna? All of DC creation is contained to DC but the omniverse as defined by Marvel includes DC and the infinite amount of multiverses Marvel has, the individual spacetime continuums of which have infinite adjacent universes of their own consolidating a higher cardinality (?)?
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>>131464721
Nobody in fiction is omniversal. Every time anyone mentions omniverse in-universe they are referring to multiverse and the writer is just being a faggot.
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>>131457380
I feel like everyone but diehard Jojofags agreed Dio was swank and don’t take it seriously.
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>>131464843
i think they just refer to however many multiverses a verse has
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>>131464275
The reasoning for Raiden cutting adamantium was completely braindead. Wolverine should have won.
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>>131464860
Only one multiverse exists in any given fiction and every time writers mention "other multiverses", megaverses, metaverses, omniverses, niggaverses and other -verses it all just refers to a single multiverse by other names because the retarded author wants to bloat his cosmology to include literally everything.
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>>131464733
A timeline include a singular instance of chronological. Everything that is 3 dimensional is contain in this 4D construct. Even an infinite multiverse would fall under it. It doesn’t matter if you use cardinals or not, it won’t add another dimension to it
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Sakura could block Eve's atomization with her own chakra shields though.
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>>131464879
You're not wrong exactly, though I think sometimes there can be such a thing. But that's only if you can't just travel from one to the other with vibrations or portals or what have you since there would need to be a gap in between multiverses.
>>131464886
i see.. that's an uncomfortable thought in capeshit given how often the multiverse is falling apart at the seams for no fucking reason (marvel and dc are held together with duct tape and bubblegum by this point) and how many purported niggerverse busters there are, since there's infinite timelines that themselves individually split into infinite timelines
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>>131463803
We didn't even said shit nor mentioned her, and this anon decided to drop a bomb of us. >>131460384
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>TV Butcher scales to Homelander now
Stainbros…
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>>131455745
Dc always beats marvel, it is the natural order
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>>131455745
If they make thor x damian, damian would win
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>>131465033
Man, you Bayofags sure are a fragile bunch. A lot like your queen, huh? Can't survive a normal stabbing, can't accept defeat from a stronger and superior character.
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>>131465117
what about lobo lex and hellbatman
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>>131455745
DC's female characters are superior to Marvel's.
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>>131465160
read >>131463631
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>>131465226
all of them suck compared to anime and videogame girls
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>>131463646
>>131463631
Ah, I see. Yeah, judging by the OP Zatanna fags are jerks. Wouldn't be surprised if one of them is the Halfag that goes around annoying Benfags all over/co/. Well, DCfags in general are insane.
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>>131465050
Already happened
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>>131465172
>Lobo
Got shafted hard. Ghost Riders must be the most overrated characters in big two comics bar none. They fucking suck.
https://imgur.io/a/qABb93I
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>>131463646
Let me take a guess. You are also able to tell him apart ever since he made that infamous super autistic "downplay" chart. Well, reminder he's also the Gamerafag.
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>>131465348
>tranime
Ah, that explains the problem.
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>>131465419
>Still salty that Superman's overglorified punching bag lost
Man, Death Battle has fucked up your brain and made you greedy as fuck. Just like two non-street tier DC characters have lost their matches, and even you bitch about those Ls. Allow others to have some bread crumbs at least. As if Death Battle wasn't rigged enough in your favor.
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>>131465508
says the guy who likes comics in which everyone is gay and going WOKE nowadays
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TMNT, Pokemon, Mega man, and The Boys had a group fight. What series should get a Battle Royale ep next?
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>>131465226
>Batwoman cancelled
>Amber is a jerk
>Harley Quinn and WW's latest movies flopped
>The Supergirl show
>Todd McFarlane admitting DC heroines don't sell enough
>Comic industry as a whole dying and DC girls aren't helping
All you got left is hoping Lady Gaga saves Harley.
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>>131465342
It's because you cunts are annoying, and you have personally convinced me that Dante rightfully won. I was on the fence before, but holy shit you fuckers can't shut up. Besides, I can go into the archives and find multiple threads where you guys just bring up Bayo out of nowhere.
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>>131465588
Souls protags? Digimon?
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Daily reminder Plastic man is one of the most powerful superheroes around and even Batman doesn’t have a contingency for.

>you can just get lucky and freeze him bro

Not anymore after he acquired the ability to make clones of himself when he defeated Elongated man. Plastic man could have 100 clones on the planet you’re not even aware of that could each just stretch over and cover the entire Earth
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>>131465588
Assassins creed? Jojos? Horror movie characters?
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>>131465472
Shut up, you know it was right
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>>131465666
He's too strong
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>>131465666
>Daily remi-AIIIEEEEEEEEE
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>>131465513
>[SEETHING]
I don't give a fuck about Lobo, Ghost Rider or whatever streaks you value so much. Ghost Riders are all glorified mid tiers and Penis Stare is the most useless power in existence.
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>>131465938
>Samefag detected
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>>131466005
I think the reason randos think that anime beats comic books is because the power escalation is (usually) a consistent growth due to being done by fewer authors.
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>>131465938
>shit story

Also like I said, he can just clone himself
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>>131465602
>you have personally convinced me that Dante rightfully won.
How to spot a DMCfag. Everyone here already knows how the research was sabotaged by a random guest researcher. As you ironically said, it's all there in the archives.
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>>131466082
The more likable character won, so who cares?
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>>131458010
Gaara lost and Scout lost. Ben is irrelevant
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>>131465741
>It's really him
Well, add Saitama and Bayonetta into the list of characters that the Zee/Hal/Vergil/Gamerafag hates. Oh, also Wanda, Ben, Sephiroth, and Godzilla, for obvious reasons. Now everything makes sense. Glad the other anons called you out. That downplay chart was your downfall.
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>>131463152
>then Alex eats someone who Cole knows and trusts, Alex gets close, stabs and consumes him.

The only person he'd be able to do that to is Zeke, because Kuo and Nix would blast him if he got too close. But if Alex did manage to get close and stab Cole, he could just drop an entire storm on his head until he got flash fried, or drain his bio electricity the same way Alex could eat him.
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>>131459001
Copeworld Cuckman
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>>131463057
>Trannyettafag seethe
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>>131466281
I wonder he realizes that of the 4 matches he listed, only one of them is continuously brought up. The other 3 are accepted as wrong. The one he keeps bringing up was right, and he keeps bringing it up because he's trying to convince people that aren't buying his whining.
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>>131466153
Add Marvel as a whole. DCfags are just delusional and love shitting on others out of nowhere. Want proof? Just see this thread's OP. >>131455745

Not even Ghost Rider gets spared from them for beating a low mid-tier.
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>>131465588
Ultraguy likes the idea of a Link BR
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>>131461448
>the thing is that after going off on how powerful the Buddha is it stops being a good thing for the scorpion and it starts being a bad thing for the Buddha you know what i'm saying?
no not really.
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>>131461997
>Doomguy fucking lost. Nobody likes him
Add also Doom. My god, how braindamaged is this DC/Halfag? Everyone hates that match and knows that it was wrong.
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>>131466353
Doom won though
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>>131466153
Hal won, you fucking drooling retard
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>>131466281
>>131466312
You brought it up, ironically >>131460384
And the best part is that isn't just one anon who can tell you apart now. I don't know what made you so braindamaged to the point you have several posters RENTING FREE your head, but judging by how Ben vs Hal and Zatanna vs Wanda went down, it's easy to tell that even if the ones you support win, your mental health is the biggest loser here. No matter the Ws or Ls, your autism increases with each passing match, especially if it's a DC one.
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Oh, boy, time to look forward for years and years of Zatannafags getting cocky and BTFO'ed by everyone. It's Superman vs Goku again, but without the views.
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Wait, the Halfag is also the Gamerafag? How much shit taste this person has?
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>>131466449
Hal. Fucking. Won. Stop trying to delegate, Benfag
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>>131455745
>Afterwards, fags with grudges started shitting up the threads. Saitamafags, Wandafags, Bayofags.
The only one here holding a grudge seems to be you. Why you brought them up, anon? Why you made this thread at all? You expected to annoy and bait Wandafags, and now that you have everyone piling against you, not just the Marvelfags, you are playing dumb?
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>>131466493
>everyone I don't like is Benfag
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>>131456263
Looks to me that Zeefags just want attention badly because they have the 2nd worst performing fight this season. Not that I entirely disagree with your post, but notice that it was a DCfag, not a Marvelfag, who made the OP.
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>>131455745
>Will DCfags ever get over their characters winning all the fanfic rigged matches thanks to Warner buying RT and DB?
FTFY
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>>131465588
It would be interesting to see a Justice League battle royale to see who can be wanked more.
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>>131466865
Flash probably wins given how many times he almost breaks the setting
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>>131466565
Anyone who so much as questions Hal's victory is a Benfag
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>>131464864
This is huge cope.
Same explanation in-universe as vibranium.
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>>131467003
>"NOOO YOU CANT DISCUSS AND ARGUE ABOUT THE RESULTS! EVERYTHING DEATH BATTLE-SAMA SAYS IS ABSOLUTE!"

Boring.
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>>131457380
Based
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Strongest character that black thor can beat?
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>>131464378
>Mephisto and Hela alone are omniversal

No they aint
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>>131464915
Sakira doesnt exist.
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If Dormammu defeats Trigon
Would that change anything about the past magician Marvel vs Dc battles in Death Battle?
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>>131466095
Dante is basically Sonic with more a shallow idiot personality. Bayonetta is more humorous and classy in her jokes.
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>>131467132
Well you're fucking wrong
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>>131462928
I don’t know why they’re still claiming he is invincible
We know all you need is strength to hurt him
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>>131467169
Just tell him the crime statistics
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>>131464378
>Mephisto and Hela alone are omniversal
DCfags and Marvelfags racing to see who can out-retard the other, I see.
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>>131462928
He's not supposed to be funny, he's just supposed to be kinda sad
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Did we ever find out what happened with these guys?
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>no discussions about Boba Vs Predator

Shame
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>>131467438
I dunno, ask the dude who owns it.
https://twitter.com/malidelisser?lang=en
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>>131467447
Who actually gives a damnb about Boba Fett getting a pity win?
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>>131467319
What happened?
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>>131467132
"NOOO YOU CANT DISCUSS AND ARGUE ABOUT THE RESULTS! EVERYTHING DEATH BATTLE-SAMA SAYS IS ABSOLUTE!"
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>>131467319
Now that Genos is dead (or at least that's what Saitama believes) we're going to see his true peak in the next chapter (unless they take the route of I promissed that child that I wouldn't kill you)
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>>131467447
Since Boba was rekt two times by Samus, many would see this battle as a pity win if Boba win.
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>>131467565
>Spoiler

He never promised that. He said he wouldn't get hurt so he has no excuse now.
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>>131462134
Put Elongated man Below Base Reed and Werehog Sonic above Reed and yes.
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>>131467743
>Werehog Sonic
This isn't a thing people want to see.
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>>131467757
Sonicfags probably think Werehog Sonic beats Luffy and they'd want the High Profile Win.
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>Chad stated that they're already setting up Season 10 of Death battle

Ah another season begging for this...
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>>131467565
I think a 100% serious punch should be depicted as outright incomprehensible. Like, the actual paper of the manga page fucking explodes outwards into a spiky pattern IRL
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>>131467515
He got hit with a gamma ray burst
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Xatana is a better character so I am happy she won.
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>>131455866
Is Wukong the original self-insert fan-fic marie sue?
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I think they said they were looking for opponents for another Guts episode, so expect him to show up next year vs either Claire, Dimitri or Ike
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Mario should've beaten Sonic from the get go if you know about their games.
I mean, have you seen how fast a Mario speedrun can get?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-MrhVPEqRo
Fuck me
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>>131468135
Probably. I hope they go with Jack, though.
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>>131467778
I don't if you're implying that Sonic somehow loses to Luffy but no Sonicfag is ever look forward to seeing the Werehog again
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>>131467861
Don't worry goy! Just think of all the cool capeshit matches those two could get instead! Alex vs Spawn coming soon!
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>>131468272
Werehog Sonic totally loses, he has shit feats.
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>>131467515
black rain due to the punches that create nukes
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>>131468290
Doesn't matter, it's Sonic
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>>131468465
Literal headcanon
It’s blood
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>>131468571
and where does it being blood come from exactly when we've seen a similar black substance on the S-class heroes in the same chapter despite them all being taken out without a fight?
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>>131468290
Shit feats? He defeated Robotnik. A guy who once held a bunch of planets in place to create a theme park.
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>>131468135
>Fire Emblem
>A shitty copy cat wannabe sword girl
Fuck dude, why do they have such shit taste? Even Samurai Jack vs Guts would be better even though it’s a boring stomp. Geralt vs Guts would still be the best one. But this is DB, so instead they’ll feed Geralt to Blade or some gay shit.
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>>131468571
That's even dumber than it being black rain. Shit, the rain being black would be in line with Garou being a cancerous mass since he was unleashing nukes punches (that hurt Saitama btw) the entire fight.
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>>131468233
If Jack beaten Afro Samurai, he would fucking destroy guts
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>>131468704
Yeah those are his most popular matchups at the moment, and Geralt will probably fight Trevor Belmont since that was a community Death Battle
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>>131469086
Exceedingly gay. We need /ourguy/ on the inside to book good match ups.
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>>131467861
Some of the discussion in this thread is making me like this fight. I hope it happens.
>>131468135
How long is the Berserk continuation going to last? I definitely expecting them to use that series again for next season.
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>>131469283
You should like Alex vs Cole. It's a fight they should have done 5 years ago. It's a good debate too. Alex's more impressive direct and visual feats against Cole's better scaling. Can Alex dodge lightning? Can Cole hit with the force of a nuke? Those are probably the big questions.
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>>131468704
Clare is a good matchup though, and is the closer of the bunch, it could go either way due to the stats they have
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>>131469314
Pretty sure Claire stomps too.
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>>131469297
>Can Alex dodge lightning

If it's Cole's lightning he shoots from his hands and body then those should be easy to dodge, even normal humans can get past those. The issue lies within which Cole you use and their fat level of tricks. Evil Cole has access to
>Napalm powers
>Black lightning boosted by the same thing that gave him his powers
>Infinite energy if he absorbs someone's bio electricity
>Beast powers
>Minions he can summon at any time
>Bio Drain
https://youtu.be/euVDP2NTx98
And this

Good Cole has access to
>Ice powers strong enough to freeze someone entirely on impact
>Faster regenerative capabilities
>Better protective options like the Ice Shield
>Bio Freeze

As for Good and Evil Cole's shared powers they have
>Rockets strong enough to take down attack helicopters
>Ice and Napalm grenades that can split or stick onto enemies
>Bolts that can either hit like a truck or be shot continuously
>Lightning Hook that can be used to traverse around cities
>Ionic Storm and Ironic Vortex
>Potential time travel
>Potential mind raping

What Cole lacks in physical strength and speed he makes up for greatly with his massive array of abilities and durability. In fact, I'd argue that his powers fully cover his above human strength, as in Infamous 2 he was capable of doing more damage to the Beast with his powers than a nuke Zeke stole could do, so I'd say he might be able to do more or about the same amount of damage as a nuke, especially if it's Evil Cole with the Beast powers at his disposal.

I don't know much about Alex though so someone will have to fill me in.
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>>131469410
How many fights does Guts win?
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>>131469499
His closest match up is Geralt. They’re so close in stats that it could be argued either way. Besides that, I think he beats Thorfinn from Vinland Saga.
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>>131469499
He easily crushes Geralt, and I have no idea why that faggot keeps saying it's a close match. It's fucking unanimous across every vs debate site you can name, and he's the only one delusional enough to think it's a good fight.
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>>131469314
Clare should fight Geralt, better themes. If Clare's going to get an easy victory, might as well make it thematic.
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>>131469475
Alex is strange. Strap yourself in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPsQdVOhEDg
>Can hurl around tanks with his bare hands
>Fast enough to cross Manhattan in at least two minutes
>Can shrug off helicopter missiles
>Has a really god damn strong healing factor
>Can eat people and infected for more strength/biomass
And that's not getting into his other powers
>Has a radar sense
>Can turn into anyone he's eaten
>Can manipulate the virus easily
>Can adapt to gain new powers over time
>Can weigh hundreds of tons or be as light as air at will
>Can create a fuckton of weapons and armor from his body. Blades, claws, fists, whips, you name it.
>Devastators. Enough said.
And that's just the surface level stuff.
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>>131469792
It is a close fight you dumb faggot. Geralt gets a ton of feats in Witcher 3.
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Doesn't Geral pretty much just mind rape Guts with his Jedi tricks?
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>>131467861
I like the fact that they call mercer zeus in the game
Could be a fun intro to the fight
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>>131469899
Post them
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>>131467169
>He's black so his hammer is covered in graffiti
I can't tell if this is retarded or based
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>>131469955
This feat alone destroys Berserk

https://youtu.be/YJ_KtvVvolY
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>>131468223
Sonic still stomps. They didnt even count his best hits or the fact Super Sonic can last days if necessary
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>>131467169
>He's black so he needs to be walking on an LGBT bridge
kek
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>>131469909
Not before he gets pureed into a slush. Guts greatly overmatches him in terms of strength and speed, in both direct feats and scaling. Also, Berserker armor prevents mind control.
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>>131469475
Cole didnt really strike me as particularky durable since he can go down to more mundane stuff. Like I dont see him walking off getting impaled though it has been awhile.

It is just a shame they are unlikely to put in the shapeshifting and sneaky factor for Alex along with the absorption stuff from other people he beat
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>>131469899
Geralt jobbed to pitchfork. He'd get rekt by an apostle
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New thread, move when needed.
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>>131469822
Interesting. I didn't think much of Alex until now, but it seems like it'll be a fight between overall physical abilities and overall powersets. What else can he do? I'll try to remember what Cole has since its been a while.

>Is able to scale to the Beast at his full power, who can cause volcanoes to rise and blow off parts of the moon
>Survived being in the center of the blast which originally caused the plague. Said blast was large enough to ruin a large section of Empire City and render it unlivable
>Got hit by a truck as a human and shrugged it off
>Could survive being pulled in and grabbed by The Beast when he does his blackhole attack. Said attack could atomize humans, cars etc if they got too close
>Held open the jaws of a Devourer
>Can repel and tank helicopter rockets
>Can potentially push away and derail trains
>Has enough electricity to power and overload trains, cars and trams
>Regularly beats on Kaiju's like Bertrand, Beast, giant hulking trashmen etc
>Has some resistance to diseases and mind-fuckery, as seen by him resisting Sarah and being unaffected by the plague
>Can sense diseases and the conduit gene
>Has enough electricity to jumpstart sections of a city indefinitely
>Became a vampire one time, which gave him the power of flight, being able to turn into bats, being able to live off of human blood etc. This is also connected to his evil self

There's probably a lot more I'm missing
>>131470177
Oh no he's pretty durable. A head on collision, getting ran over by a semi, being near the Beast resurection that blew apart a shipping area to an extent, living through his own explosions, living through this explosion at the beginning of the game, previously mentioned Beast atomizing hands etc he's lived through it all. Being stabbed is a different story, but whenever he gets hit by something that should impale him he kinda just gets knocked back.
https://youtu.be/veWbeUWUdhA



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