So new post by Alfabusa sheds light on the new audiodrama episode: FUCKING HORUS IS COMING! https://www.patreon.com/posts/update-06-10-and-67617751
>>131444603OP here, i would use the newest gif but it is 17 MB and 4chan can't take that girth.
>>131444603you could at least post the kemono party link
>>131444675I would but i burnt my eyes out from seeing the Emperor in negligee.
>>131444603This is kinda gay.
>>131444603it's weird how great this already is in comparison to TTS trying to get itself offexperience, i guess
>>131444790the literal years of experience in the field and a general scope of what they want to do with the series being apparent is obvious that's why pytor was a kino villain and I'm sad to see him go.
>mysterious disease that has him vomit profuse amounts of bloodoh noOH NOTRAITOOOOOR
>>131445016people are thinking that he's the OG Cain but outside being functionally immortal and knowing way too much shit this is the first sign of any real vampiric ability.
>>131444603Big D’s shoulder looks to be dislocating at each step he makes in the gif
>>131445182you're just jelly of his supa d swagguh
So would you say TTS ending was kind of a blessing because being able to do more original stuff?
>>131445380I never thought I'd say this, but yes. For a long time TTS was nothing but reading the lore while various things happened in the background. It started to pick up at the end, but it was still very passive and mostly just characters talking at each other. HTP is infinitely better in this regard.
>>131445380Yes.honestly, alfa and his posse were wasted on fucking warhammer: the endless edge fest of poor writing and retarded scaleGW didn't even try hiring them or working something out with them like they did and fucked Astartes
>>131445380I miss the String Storm songs and wish it got a conclusion but honestly yeah.
>>131445440Then again Paradox doesn't seem to have issues with fan content using WoD so maybe Alfa figured they could do more. Also who wants to bet that Leman will be a Garou? Or is Zoran just done?
>>131446018lol, they're sponsored by paradoxthey were hired to make warhammer in stellaris
I thoroughly enjoy their audio dramas, so easy to listen to while you do stuff. I imagine WoD is getting a big popularity boost.
>>131446039So thoughts on future characters from TTS coming to HTP:Corvus being a Corax (wereraven)Leman as a Garou with a hate boner for MarkusThe Pillarstodes as Toreadors"The Monk" from episode one and the credits actually being The Regent herself
>>131446112Honestly they expand the lore of the series rather well. The first one bringing up that going against werewolves is a suicide mission really sets up a potential use of Werewolf: the Apocalypse
>>131446115There's a non-zero chance that the Monk is in fact the Prince herself. Pyotr implied she's been aware of the Family this entire time and has been indirectly backing them to remove her rivals or dissidents
>>131444914Pyotr was all the more threatening because he was the serious one amongst a cast of comedic characters, I think.
>>131446213Oh fuck, you don't think she Embraced Horse do you? Do we know what generation the Prince is?
>>131446221And yet his own ego was his downfall. The hubris of the Nosferatu
>>131446238We don't know what generation this Prince is, but going by the list of known Princes in Europe and the Americas, she's most likely sitting between 5th and 6th if she's especially old and prominent. MAYBE as high as 4th.https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Princes_(VTM)She could also be as low as 7th or 8th, but I doubt it.
>>131446299>MAYBE as high as 4th.A fucking Methuselah?! Meaning if she Embraced Horse, he'd be on par with a 6th generation elder
>>131446115Vulcan as a werewolf.A friendly werewolf.
>>131447754A Child Of Gaia would be the best fit then. But even that just means he'd still be pretty passive-aggressive.
>>131444603Too bad I am literally physically incapable of enjoying the new stuff.I hate what they did to the characters, I hate how the new art style looks, I hate the animation, and it's just not fucking funny.It's just pure unfiltered garbage and I miss the actually good content so damn much, and clearly so does everyone else since they clearly still fucking want Warhammer characters.
>>131448004It gets better after the first episode
>>131448004>animeposter is retardedAt some point this went from a joke, to just becoming the reality.
I can see the Chaos Lords being Earthbound Demons in this lore.
>>131448090They're more likely to be either Banes (Very Bad News) or direct agents under the Maeljin Incarna (Extremely Bad News), who are themselves under the Urge Wyrms, who are THEMSELVES below the Triatic Wyrm.
>>131448004Unironically skip episode 1, everything else is gold.
>excellent chemistry with D and the other guy>part of some really great audiologsI love the evil wizard so much it's unreal
>>131448116Nta, but I understood nothing of what you said
>>131448004I started off just like you, I hated the designs and couldn’t bear it. I then gave the Kitten+Emps audio episode a chance like a month later and thoroughly enjoyed it.It helps that you don’t actually have to look at Kitten’s new design.
>>131444603Finally breaking out of the Retconium?
>>131448363>BanesEvil spirits in service to the Wyrm, the principle of Destruction and entropy. Closest analog to actual Chaos Daemons, being horrible reslity-warping masses of corruption.>Maeljin IncarnaParticularly powerful Banes who were once-mortal, now ascended as fundamental embodiments of things like Greed, Perversion, etc under the service of their respective Urge. >Urge WyrmsThe twelve Urges are the metaphysical and spiritual emanations of the Triatic Wyrm's own corrupted desires and feelings, each one embodying an awful aspect of reality. They need the Maeljin to act as their enforcers and proxies since they are incapable of manifesting themselves.>Triatic WyrmThe three foremost heads of the Wyrm, 'born' after it shattered itself in its own madness. They are the Beast Of War (Wyrm of Calamity), Eater Of Souls (Wyrm of Consumption), and Defiler Wyrm (Wyrm of Corruption) and all the Urge Wyrms and Elemental Wyrms are branches off of these three.
>>131447903>Even though he acts friendly he also giving backhanded compliments and such in a way you cant tell if he is intending to be a jerk or not
I would watch it, but it's full of actual faggots.
>>1314481321 is fine and you need it for the GREAT AND MIGHTY KEVIN stuff which is especially gold
What the fuck is this and how do I get started
>humanity mechanics now allow to high humanity vampires to eat>he lost his small chance to eat his beloved cream crackers once morePoor Richard...
>>131449663>Vampires can now enjoy cream crackersChink vampires lose another unique aspect I guess
>>131449663>Kevin can eat food that's not just sippie5 for Kevin.
>>131449868So what do Kuei-Jin have left?
>>131449867Kevin states>I DO NOT EATKevin humanity scale is probably around 7 or 6, he still an pragmatist murderer in many aspects>you should merc'd him
>>131449890Being Ravnos antedeluvian bitches?
>>131449904Admittedly, having Humanity 6 - 7 is stupidly high for the average vampire. Especially one who was formerly in the Camarilla, then the goddamn Sabbat.
THE GREAT AND... human Kevin?
>>131450063What a Chad
>>131448004Episode 1 is rough since they're still finding their footing but they find their groove almost immediately after and by Episode 3 they've actually surpassed TTS in terms of enjoyment, at least for me.
>>131448594so those are the baddies of the garou? on what scales are the other races/supernaturals baddies on? Vamps seem low end
>>131450053This is true, but he's ridden with guilty, makes an effort to cling to his humanity and not just to preserve the masquerade.
>>131450053Not every Kindred has a Smerples
>>131448273Kevin is the best character. Though I did like how actually angry Kitten sounded when he told Pytor how big of a piece of shit he was
>>131449848>Chink vampiresYou mean wraiths larping as vampires? Cause that is what the Kuei jin are
>>131449965Getting blown the fuck out by hyper nerds with a super space laser and ghost of a nuke?
Fuck humanity. The paths are were its at. Real niggas base their morality around the Honorable accord
>>131450505https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SInD_r5RzyE&ab_channel=Unoriginal>>131450563>not path of blooddo you even hunt the hunter?
>>131450572>hunt the hunter?No, but I do play an evil blood drinking modern Don Quixote who challenges his enemies to honorable combat before ripping them to shreds with celerity.
>>131445657Stringstorm haven't stopped, they're just using more plausible deniability these days. The most recent song is pretty obviously about Ultramarines.
>>131451284Their battletech songs also slap. Really liked their songs about Tukayyid, Battlepope, and the Blackwatch.
I wonder if they will do anything with Sanguinious in this, he would 100% be a vampire
>>131450063That is a good kitty.Speaking of when you think it'll be revealed that Kitten is a literal cursed werecat and that's why he completely covers up.
>>131451421So long as he isn't a werecoyote. Fuck those cunts AND their gay rape bomb
>>131451370How fucking dare you?
>>131451370My 40k knowledge is shit, but doesn't his followers Eat the flesh of their ork enemies not do anything with blood (and that's one of the chaos boys)?So if anything Sanguinious would be a wendigo.
>>131451370>>131451706DISGUSTING FUCKING HEATHENS THE LOT OF YOUTHE BLOOD RED STAR IS NOT A FILTHY FUCKING XENO/MONSTER
>>131451706Most space marines nibble on their enemies, since one of their magic space organs is something that lets them relive/ steal the memories of whatever they eat.This includes people
>>131451370He's going to be a she and the Prince.
>sanguinius>evildie in a fire
>>131444603Why is this faggot withh coffee grinning while drinking?Why is this art so gay and edgy? It's cringe as fuck
>>131452209because he's a batshit insane omnisexual, faggot anon
>>131452209>gay and edgyWelcome to World of Darkness. One of the more famous vampire characters threw his own severed cock at some guy's face.
Unshaven Tremere regent pussy...
>>131450172I'd say vamps are strongly mid range myself. Stronger than many, weaker than many. Good for the game since you want to feel powerful but still got to watch your ass and be careful.
>>131450172young vamps are low end, only really beaten in weak as shitness by changelingsand then you get the millenia old monsters that can literally create earthquakes by punching the ground, blot out the sun, see the future, and are so tough whatever hits you breaks.
>>131452209whats it like never being happy?
>>131449890Who fuckin' cares?
>>131452451Go cut your dick off and call yourself a woman.
>>131452209This is what you're mad about? A guy smiling while drinking coffee?
>>131452226>omnisexualDoes that means he is zoophile and a pedophile?
>>131452576i'm not sureprobably not
>>131452597But omnisexual means sexual attraction to everything. Kids are in the everything.
>>131452226>omnisexualBisexual. There are only two sexes and two genders.
>>131452649okay, this>>131452633i was mistaken and short-sighted
>>131450172>VampsLower than many due to the abundance of weak kindred, but there's a MASSIVE power-jump once you get down to the lower gens. A Methuselah like Big D boasts killing, 4th Gen, can physically drop mountains on you, move so fast it looks like it's teleporting, hit hard enough to turn you into vap9r, and a whole host of other things. The Antediluvians are the this generation and are literal world-enders in terms of scope and power.>WerewolfHas the highest level threats outside of Mage (arguably even then, due to how the Triat remain a constant into the other splats) and Wraith/Orpheus. The Wyrm and Weaver are 2/3 of the principles who gave form to all realities and both have gone utterly bugfuck insane. The Wyrm seeks to turn the universe into a rotten corrupted hellscape for all eternity as all things dissolve into entropic chaos. The Weaver wants to strangle all existence in its webs forever, creating a cosmos entirely stagnant and full of mindless automata. Pristine and sterile with nothing to taint it.The Garou fight various minions of both, but the Wyrm is what they focus on since it's the more immediate threat.>ChangelingAside from the very concept of Banality itself, there are the Fomorians who embody the primal and ancient darkness dwelling in the human heart. Who also just so happen to be Wyrm-related.
>>131452649That implies is that emps wouldn't fuck something genderless, which he definitely would>how?Like it matters, Big D finds a way in more ways than one.
>>131452719*Antediluvians are the third generation, I mean.
>>131452756Who ate the 2nd and made Caine butthurt
>>131452576Consider for a moment that he has probably fucked Garou, who are themselves zoohpiles (they literally need to fuck wolves to create new lupus Garou). Meaning hes a zoophile by association. Probably a zoophile outright even, given I highly doubt he fucked them in their human form.
>>131452777ehthey kind of maybe fucked civilization as a whole because they were keeping the first city stable
>>131445380I think they were able to do sp well off the back of warhammer's strong setting (not as much their talent as writers). this new stuff shows how they arent the greatest writers, but its forcing them to be smarter with it so theyve got no crutches
>>131452719>MageTechnocracy trying to erase magic (which is a Weaver victory), Nephandi who variably worship the Wyrm or the Lords of Outer Blackness who want to eat the universe, Threat Null waging a campaign of omnicide against the entire infinite Umbra and not losing, etc. Take your pick.>Wraith/OrpheusMalfeans, who are the malicious spirits literally born from Oblivion who seek to drag all creation kicking and screaming into the void and are headed by the Neverborn, the greatest and oldest of their number. Beyond even them though is Grandmother, who is either God's evil twin, Oblivion itself, or both. She wants to devour all reality but ironically, she's less evil than her offspring. She just seeks to create a new multiverse where her children are free of suffering but needs to erase the old one to do so.There is even outright a way to stop Grandmother by managing to communicate with and telling her that the tiny miniscule 'motes' she's devouring are the souls of humans and conveying that they are ALSO her children, which gets her to stop and basically chill out. >DemonEarthbound are the closest thing to this, who by RAW, could easily fuck the planet over without lube using any of their major abilities.>>131452777Caine is always butthurt. But in this case, his butthurt was somewhat justified for once.
>>131445380With the way Hunter's been going I'd say yes.I have no idea how they're planning to make a Half-Life thing interesting but I've been surprised before.
>>131452819>There is even outright a way to stop Grandmother by managing to communicate with and telling her that the tiny miniscule 'motes' she's devouring are the souls of humans and conveying that they are ALSO her children, which gets her to stop and basically chill out.what a good mommy
>>131452849Shes better than most, given she actually cares. Her kids a shit though.
reminder that werewolves are super faggot losers who genocided the other shifter races because they didn't like them and are now wondering why they're losing the existential war against the forces of autism and evil
>>131452819It is hilarious that if Caine just said sorry, vampirism as a whole would cease to exist instantly.
>>131452942depends on your gehenna scenarioand also if god is actually dead or not
>>131445440Nah, this is shit. TTS was funny cause it's 40k. This is unfunny and Alfa gonna regret his decision
>>131451785So space Marines are at least partially wendigos as designed by The Emperor?
>>131452576In a world where vampires and werewolves and maybe other supernatural things ARE REAL, would a vampire fucker be a zoophile? Or omnisexial.
>>131452982that's, like, your opinion, man
>>131452649In the narrative of the series vampires and more exist. Multiple species would mean something more than a bisexual category.
>>131450063why is he wearing a skirt?
>>131452936Wereboars, the only things that can safely eat and purify wyrm taintWerebears, the healers of the Fera, able to raise the dead and without the usual bullshit that comes with it in WoDBoth genocided cause they tried to help garouWerebats, genocided cause they kind looked like tzmisce if you squinted and were fucking blindWerecoyotes, worthless pieces of shit whose entire existence js "just a prank bro" and serve less of a purpose than any other shifter race. Saved from extinction by the American group, which they watched the boars, bears and bats dieGarou are really fucking retarded. How stupid are they? As a whole they still believe believe weresnakes are the dancers of Gaia, that mother earth would make an entire species devoted to dancing to entertain the other onesThe weresnakes are Gaia's assassins
>>131452226Is Alfa gay?His 40k stuff wasn't this faggoty, Vampire the masquarade isn't this gay. I fuckin hate this lgbt trash that's cringe as fuck. I hope Alfa hangs himself
>>131453043It's a blanket
>>131453077He has a kid
>>131452308I played Bloodlines. It isn't this cringe and almost zero gay stuff. Hang yourself
>>131453077VtM isn't gay? It always has been. One of the first characters made for j6 was a nazi transexual.
>>131453098That just proves you know nothing about VtM. One of the biggest Sabbat characters, long before woke was hip or anyone knew what a transvestite was , was a literal tranny
>>131452451Last i checked, gays, lesbians and trannies were never happy. 41% and such
>>131453052>Garou are really fucking retarded.The rest should be exterminated off the face of the fucking earth and their war put in proper hands. I hate mages, but give it to them. I'm sure they can put up a fight. Hell, the fucking vampires would be more inclined to fight their way because they actually want to win, live, and prosper even though they're dead.>>131453077this is the joke: alfa ships kitten and magnus' voice actorsit's an injoke between themalso, Big D/Big E being bisexual is a reference to his nature as an amalgamation of shaman souls, male and female
>>131452517Yes, it looks cringe. Why not a normal smile?
>>131453124Also looked fuck ugly, but that's fair cause they were an tzmisce before WW really found their niche as weird, fae alien body horror fanatics.Can't forget werecoyotes and their ability to cause gay rape. Fucking werecoyotes
>>131453150Remember the wyrm got most of its servants, and it's most powerful tool,the black spiral dancers cause werewolves were literally so far up their ass they refused to try and stop the white hollers from jihading directly up the wyrms asshole.Or, alternatively, kicked them while they were down and stole what few uncorrected kinfolk they had left
>>131452936>>131453052Garou were basically made to be Gaia's fangs and claws to protect the other Fera whilst they did their jobs and tried to mend and soothe the fractured Triat. Then they fucked it up because they were never meant to be anything BUT warriors. They've killed so many of the Fera actually built for combating the Wyrm that they're now forced into roles they were never built for and all the remaining Fera hate them for the atrocities they committed during the War of Rage.Reminder that one book even has it so that the Impergium, the Garou's routine purge of humanity to keep their numbers low, not only drove the vast majority of humanity straight into the Weaver's embrace but has also been implied to have driven the Weaver even MORE insane when they started murdering her faithful along with the werespiders.>Werebears, the healers of the Fera, able to raise the dead and without the usual bullshit that comes with it in WoDThey could also work to heal the madness of the Wyrm on a scale none of the other Fera could.
>>131453150>also, Big D/Big E being bisexual is a reference to his nature as an amalgamation of shaman souls, male and femalehim being gay for kitten and himself is fucking hilariousalso thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyKuFNIdwQ0&ab_channel=BruvaAlfabusa
>>131453013Yes a correct opinion
>>131453182>>131453191they are so fucking stupidkill them allpurge them of the wyrm's rot and the weaver's schemes
>>131453091How can a man that had sex, with a female, okayed those designs? Ski mask, googles and kitten ears? That's fuckin cringe
>>131453102>>131453128The funny thing is, these anons are talking about two different characters >>131453098Dude, the Baali clan book has a priest fucking a little boy and has maggots crawl up his cock, turning him into a vampire cause the kid was actually one all along.And this is shown to be one of the ways Baali make people vampires.And that particular book was written way back when.WoD has always been stupidly edgy, and pretty gay. Even before that became the norm
>>131453150Women can't be shamans
>>131453241they actually could be
>>131453210At this point, we're fucking stuck with the Garou. Killing them means there's nobody left who can actually contest the Wyrm and Weaver. The Practices are too fractured and weak, the majority of vampires benefit Wyrm operations in some way, the Technocracy is irreversibly compromised, Changelings are fighting a losing war against Banality as it is, most Hunters are retarded and can't see the bigger picture, etc.Your best fucking bet are the goddamn Mummies and they're asleep and few in number to boot.
>>131453241You dare saying that the Celestial Shaman Queen totally badass savior of the fantasy roleplay world and all powerful awesomeness ISN'T A SHAMAN?
>>131453043A robe is just a big skirt innit
>>131453260ughfucking furry fucks fucking everything the fuck up>>131453295https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-9-bQ3JoWY&ab_channel=BruvaAlfabusareally the best thing he's ever made
>>131452818just watched episode 2 and wow. good stuff. a bit gay but honestly i dont really mind it. i also have very low standards
>>131453228Oh, can't forget how Vykos' sire fucked him in the ass, impregnation him with his own soul, which was then ripped out of him by his sires former, male lover, who absorbed it so he could mpreg himself and birth his lover turned rival to raise him rightThat fucking happened. Thank God Gehenna killed everyone before that particular plot line could continue any further
>>131453295Only based males can be shamans and can reincarnate.Women can be perpetuals
>>131451785>>131451706Space marines are all created with gene seeds based on a primarch, some have very apparent flaws, the ones created with his have two, one give them a very strong, and literal thirst for blood, they used to indulge on it until they meet him, he told them they shouldn't and inspired them to resist it, after he died another flaw appeared, an uncontrollable fury that makes the marine loose his mind and go berserk, there's more to it, but details aren't important, it's similar to the lupo's thrall of the wyrm in some ways, it can trigger with time or tense situations, also after he died, one group of marines that descends from him saud fuck it, and freely indulge on drinking blood and eating the flesh of his enemies, while most of the others avoid it, unless to specifically use their organ known as the omophagea, all of this, they try to keep a secret from almost everyone
>>131453260Don't forget their response to learning several kinfolk had become at risk to follow the footsteps of the skinner, Samuel Haight (before he was made into the ultimate badass as a joke the audience didn't get) , and abused Kinsella who learned from the wyrm how to become q real werewolf by skinning several actual werewolves alive, wasn't too start treating their kinfolk as more than sex slaves or punching bags, but to instead plan to kill the kinfolk who their abuses were pushing to become serial garou killers
>>131453401Heretic burger sounds like a positively delightful dish you can make after slaughtering xenos and traitors.
>>131453260Demons might have a shot. But that would require someone to play or care about demon
>>131453217>How can a man that had sex, with a female, okayed those designs?Alfa is a massive shitposter.
>>131453585please tell me this shit has barely any viewership and is considered a failure. It's like Hazbin Hotel 2.0
>>131453468Ah, Garou. Your retardation is somehow almost as bad as the fucking eldritch abominations out to destroy the universe. Like, holy fuck.
>>131453156I thought the Nosferatu were the butt ugly ones
>>131453628He's pulling in the same numbers that TTS pulled.
>>131453628No it's actually performing pretty well. The WoD fans like it cause it's giving WoD exposure and don't give a shit about the gay shit, cause any WoD fan has encountered much worse on the table....fucking Fishman.And the fan base they had from text to speech has stuck around and are enjoying it, probably because they're learning about a new setting like the first few episodes of text to speech dud
>>131453652kill them allkiiiiiiiiiilll themlet the chad mummies handle the wyrm war>>131453628hahaha, get fucked
>>131453653They are. I meant this particular tzmisce tranny nazi had some fucking ugly art, because they general look of the flesh crafters hadn't been set as weird, body horror and alien, so they could be mistaken as a nos compared to later depictions of the clan of dracula
>>131453704Are WoD faggs this desperate? Don't they have enough exposure with the critical role knock off? Something by Night?ALso i thought they liked being the niche nobody knows about
>>131453652They're literally the reason world of darkness, is world of darkness. They've been fucking everyone over since prehistory.
I want to fuck a gangrel mariner...
>>131453751>Are WoD faggs this desperate? Don't they have enough exposure with the critical role knock off? Something by Night?In case you haven't noticed, White Wolf fucked up so hard they created a national incident, so Paradox had to disband them. Right now, Paradox has no idea what to do with the IP, so they're just fucking about.>ALso i thought they liked being the niche nobody knows aboutThey were pretty stoked when Paradox hired them the first time around. And they gave them free reign. It's good money and no legal risk.
>>131453704>fucking FishmanAh the Word Bearer of WoD
>>131453751Well no.. see, WoD fans hate the newest edition of vampire the masquerade, V5. Since it rapes the settings lore and tries to make Old WoD like new/ chronicles of darkness in how it's played. V5 was so bad, it got WW killed by paradox, fucking paradox for being too woke. Not even joking, one of the first books of the edition nearly caused an international crisis. Hunter the parenting, however, follows the lore WoD fags like, the setting they care about before it was revived and turned somehow even gayer Than before.
>>131453791>White Wolf fucked up so hard they created a national incidentWtf? I didn't heard anything, what happened?
>>131453771I'd prefer to bone a black fury into not being a man hating femcel>>131453791. I'd probably probably in the process, but it be worth it.
>>131453816Kitten and Magnus were shipped LONG before WoD. Also i want a Garou mommy gf
>>131453851>>131453873>wanting to fuck GarouYou will die. Or in the case of being a kinfolk, be so horribly fucking abused that you'll actively wish for death or joining any other group.
>>131453891>Werewolf cunny got me actin unwiset. Big D (probably)
>>131453925Speaker-D if you're lurking here please use this fucking line in a future episode
I want to pet and suck nagloper mommy tits...
>>131453844See, back in the day, they had a policy that historical human atrocities were never committed or orchestrated by the supernatural. Sure you'd have a nazi werewolf here and a vampire nazi there, but they didn't cause the holocaust. This was followed for the entirety of the original run of the setting, up to it suffering like twelve different apocalypse at once.Then, years pass. New world of darkness and Chronicles come. Twentieth anniversary is released for the Old World of darkness lines, condensing the lore and making it actually digestible and follow able without buying stacks of source booksThis revives interest in VtM, which combined with the ambient hype brought about by bloodlines, lead WW to reconsider Gehenna and bring back VtM after being bought by paradoxAnd the first book, the fucking first book, they abandoned their policy of "supernatural do not cause human attrocities". Cause it was released when The Chechnens were killing all of their gays. So WW thought it was a wonderful idea to virtue signal and say the fucking Camarilla, the vampire society that wants to stay hidden and upholds the masquerade violently, actually openly ruled Chechnya and had decided to wipe out all the gays for...reasons?Unsurprisingly, being told they were ruled and controlled by vampires pissed off the Chechnyan government. And also the gays, who were outraged WW would make light of their sufferingSo paradox took white wolf behind the shed, and blew their brains out. And V5 had to hobble along until they could release their own books for it>>131453873What does that have to do with anything I said there?
>>131453844Unless I'm mistaken and there was a separate event anon referred to they released a new rulebook and in the fluff they unironically made the Chechnyan massacres of LGBT people a Camarilla plot
>>131453977>vampire naziYou mean Goering and Himmler? Does that mean Hitler was a ghoul?
>>131453077They actually handle sexuality rather tastefully. Markus and Kitten aren’t acting like flaming faggots and the only times you even remember they’re a thing is when D calls kitten son in law or uses them as an excuse as to why their basement is a dungeon to try and throw of his interrogator. As for D the only reason people are aware of his preferences is because of one of the two second intermission clips that points out he’s had ex wives and ex husbands and ex children. It’s played off as a joke and never brought up again. Compare that to most modern depictions of faggotry.
>>131454058No. They were just people.Though Baba yaga, who was a nonferrous, did create an magical iron curtain that kept supernatural from entering or leaving Russia. Until she was killed by a 4th gen loli niktukku who tore her apart and caused the barrier to drop.Baba yaga in WoD was based, despite being a vampire she controlled Packs of werewolves and ruled over supernatural Russia with an iron fist Until a loli ate her
>>131448116What sort of news are the Wyrm guys?
>>131454127No I'm pretty sure in the first edition Goering and Himmler were both vampires. I recall Goering being of clan Malkavian.
>>131454127>>131454168My source is Berlin by Night
>>131454127Himmler was even a Tremere, again source is Berlin by Night
>>131454127*NosferatuNictuku are some scary motherfuckers by the way. They're practically all 4th gen, and are the reason nosferatu are more loyal to their clan than government, and are why camarilla, anarch and Sabbat nossies tend to work closer together than they do with the rest of their sects.It's because their ante, believing he'll be beautiful again if all his childer and decendants die off, still embraces new vampires for the sole purpose of sending them to murder the fuck out of the nosferatu.All of them are diablerists, and are bloated with stolen vitae, but they are such a threat, not because they have swallowed dozens of souls each at least, but because they're always a step or two beneath the angry vampire God. You'd have to look to find anything higher than 6th gen amongst themBaba yaga was 4th gen herself, and over 7000 years old.She got fucking curb stomped by one of her sires new children. You don't fuck with the nictuku.
>>131453339I love that he represents every D&D stereotype.The rules lawyer, the edgy tryhard, the power fantasy tryhard who can't roll for shit, the over the top roleplayer, the guy who isn't trying at all, the murder hobo, the casually good roller, the self insert, the bad gimmick guy, and a railroading dungeonmaster who eventually wants to kill them all.
>>131454254I want to fuck one.
>>131454264Fucking Krakus needs to stop digging ditches
>>131454294Nah, i want werewolf cunny
>>131454168>>131454217>>1314542401st edition was retarded and barely resembled VtM. It was quickly replaced with 2nd. Lots of weird and nonsensical things existed in those first books, before WW knew what VtM was or even imagined gamelines beyond it, once they did, they removed most of the early lore and replaced it with the more familiar metaplot. Shit, vampires were supposed to be the source of every myth and monster, with the clans standing in for one each. And the camarilla were the main enemies, which came back in V5In the actual, codified setting, they were normal humans.
>>131454254>She got fucking curb stomped by one of her sires new children. You don't fuck with the nictuku.i don't understand how this is possible given the rules of the setting>>131454264my personal favorite was everyone banding together in the end and getting super into it to fuck over magnus
>>131453791Are people butthurt cause of some gay massacre?
>>131454370Don't ask me. It just happened. Baba yaga ruled suoernatural Russia, then one day a little vampire girl went over there, beat her ass and ate her fucking soul.And every monster that was living their shit their pants in panic
>>131453260What about Prometheans? And Beasts?
>>131454370I'm surprised how emotionally invested I got watching it.RIP potatoskin, our lucky boy
>>131454370Nictuku are all 4th generation bastards. They are one step down from vampire demigods that were the 3rd generation. What's so hard to understand?
>>131454409what the fuuuuuckcome on, that'd require a fuck ton of diablerie beforehand to pull off on a goddamn 4th gen meth
>>131454449So was Baba Yaga. who had 7 milennia on that kid>>131454442For me, it was Krakus. But lucky boy dying so brutally was devastating.
>>131454423Don't exist in Old WoD. Those are Nwod only. Promtheans are cool, but wouldn't work to stop the wyrm, in fact the radioactive nuke one would probably become his servant immediately if dropped into old wod. Nor would they be effective against the weaver.Beasts would just begin raping people until gehenna destroyed humanity, while crying they were justified and the family they murdered and ate totally deserved itFun fact, beast was written by an actual rapist, and includes in lore victim blaming
>>131454466So it wasn't "Baba Yaga was murdered by a little girl" but "a 4th generation nosferatu was diablerized by another 4th gen nossie"
>>131454451The nictuku did eat a lot of nossies before hand . But so have most nictuku
>>131454483I heard Demons were pretty cool, what about them?
>>131444748Big D ignores such hetronormative ideas.
>>131454516Also the Nickutu are the first childer of Absilimiard, they are actually older than Baba.
>>131454516A freshly embraced one.this is important because age is everything beyond just experience and generation>>131454536that explains some but not all
>>131453977>>131453979Lmao, I thought it was going to be something like hitler was possessed by the wyrm or some other dumb shit like that, but that was kind of extremely specific and didn't even made that much sense
>>131454554That's kinda a Mage and higher level Vampire magic thing. They almost died to Pyotr. They wouldn't stand a chance against that kinda thing.
>>131454554>>131454610eh, depends on if they have a proper cult around themthey're reliant on humans more so
>>131454554No one played them, just like wraith, changeling and mummy. And their NWoD counterparts are shit, and are played even less cause playing machines larping as Demons isn't what people wanted, like changeling the dreaming was mostly ignored for being out of place in the setting. Especially since actual Demons and angels exist in NWoD, but they chose to make the playable ones robots.Demon the fallen was cool. But, you'd have a hard time convincing people to play it instead of vampire, werewolf, mate and probably hunter
>>131454146Bad. Casual reality warping for some of the stronger ones, the ability to completely corrupt the spiritual landscape of a place, destroy souls by proximity, take on Garou in head on fights and win, the works. Banes can be weak and relatively harmless, since the term is a catch-all for Wyrm servants, but most of the time you're talking about seriously nasty entities. Dream Makers for instance worked to create reality in service to the Weaver and Wyld, and whilst vastly diminished, there's still an echo of the power to create whole universes within their dark forms.Probably the absolute worst to meet is a Nexus Crawler.
>>131454466Nickutu are all older than Baba. By like, a frankly stupid amount.
I really hope, if this touches werewolf, they bring in the best totem spirit, O'mighty Dolla'https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/O%27_Mighty_Dolla%27
>>131454696fucking basedreminder that a man making a vampire kneel to a wad of cash is canon
>>131454725True faith is great.
>>131454483Are there more races/supernaturals? Now I’m just curious.Also knew about Beast thanks to 1d4chan, but I wondered if they stay the same or would do something >>131454516Age means a lot to vamps>>131454627I barely know of the other settings. How’d you play them?
>>131454696I can't tell whether he and D would be great friends, or immediately try and kill each other.
>>131454812great friends who jab at each other for being different nationalitiesD is entirely off the grid
>>131454770Yep. Old WoD has Vampires, werewolves and the rest of their shifters and the bargain bin versions made by pentex, mages and all their varieties, Wraiths until the technocracy blows them up as collateral to kill the Ravnos ante, changeling, mummies, hunters, and Demons. And these are just what are playable.
>>131453091 So did Elton John. Homonut can make kids just as well as sttraighnut.
>>131454812Uncertain, but they'd both hate that bitch easy credit
>>131453977What the fuck? That bit where humanity always instigates its own worst fuckups was brilliant and avoided that bit where Hitler and Stalin and Pol Pot and whoever weren’t actually human so we could never really be the baddies. I may be typing like I have a stroke but I’m tired and I have a cold and this shit pisses me off.
>>131454895Their was a funny thing where every supernatural was trying to claim Rasputin as one of their own despite having no proof for it Dracula, also, was a vampire. But by his own choice. He was a free, self made ghoul who avoided several camarilla and Sabbat assassination/ enslaving attempts, until he caught a low gen tzmisce and his sire, forced him to embrace him, then ate his grandsire to immediately free himself from the blood bind.He also met the flesh cathedral, watched it eat its owner, and escaped its halls alive
>>131454967too mary suish for me and the setting as a whole
>>131455016He got away with everything. And yeah, most of the NPC's are horrible busted Mary sues. It's why it seems like everyone and their childer has advanced thaumaturgy despite the tremere keeping they shit under lock and key. When they couldn't think of how else to beef up a Statline, they'd throw a few dots in a few thaum paths to spice it up.Fuck, that obese piece of shit, Augustus Giovanni, the wannabee 3rd gen, has just enough dots in movement of the mind to fly/ levitate his fat ass towards his next meal
>>131455059>Fuck, that obese piece of shit, Augustus Giovanni, the wannabee 3rd gen, has just enough dots in movement of the mind to fly/ levitate his fat ass towards his next mealyou think the clan of necromancers would be fucking frightening but noit's a shame
>>131455079That is terrifying, imagine having your legs broken and a massively obese vampire slowly drift through the air towards you while you struggle to walk away as a bunch of pale godfather rejects place bets on if you'll make it to the rose garden before being caught
>>131448273Kevin is literally just a character 2010 - 2013 /tg/ would have made up.
>>131455183don't forget making comments about raping your sexy corpse
>>131455238Surprising that a Gio would fuck something that didn't share their last name. Their siblings and cousins all must've gone on holiday
>>131449156https://youtu.be/t1Kc0xuYnfQFirst episode is very slow.
>>131455262incest is so passe
>>131455237Considering Alfa lurks on /tg/ it only feels more authentic. Plus D's plan on having a group of vampires that want to regain their humanity is rather interesting. Shame Shitbeard was killed by that prick Pyotr
>>131455280Doesn't stop the Giovanni from earning that inbred drawback
>>131455296depends on which side of the family you're frombut if you're not a proper corpse fucker, you must be exiled
>>131455279First episodes are always the slowest ones because it sets up the story and lore for each character
>>131454085D is literally the definition of "Sex: YES"
>>131455290Shittons of creatives lurked and participated on /tg/. Alfa, Plague of Gripes, you name it.Catmod is a war criminal for the damage he did to that place. I hope he died of Covid.
>>131455317Actually, what'll get you exiled is looking like a corpse, since that was the curse of the clan they usurped and genocided. Really ticks them off to be reminded about that
>>131455375don't mean neckbeardia?>>131455378i meant as a general member of the family, not the clan
>>131445380On one hand it felt like they've worked themselves into a corner regarding the story/plot of TTS and struggled to find a way out of that without it turning to shit.But on the other hand, the character interactions in TTS were a little bit better, as they had that "je ne sais quoi".But when life gives you lemons, you make lemonade.And then your pour that lemonade into the eyes of life as you've prepped it so you can waterboard the SHIT out of it for not only inconveniencing you, but trying to make up for it by just giving you lemons.
>>131455406No. Catmod was the moderator who fucking ruined /tg/ by bullying all OC creation off of the board with arbitrary fucking rulings while answering to no one. He would almost randomly delete on-topic threads with hundreds of replies from invested people while leaving shitposts full of shitposts up until bump limit, then avatarfag with pictures of cats while claiming he was "saving the board".Now /tg/ is a wasteland of general threads and idea guys desperately trying to come up with interesting topics, while nobody who can draw, write or otherwise possesses a useful skill bothers with the place anymore.Him being such a faggot is partially why moderators and jannies no longer identify themselves in any meaningful way.
>>131444603I wonder if the series will explore the entirety of WoD. I want to see Big D react to finding about the Wyrm, Weaver and Wyld.
>>131455470Is that why there’s still pics of cats pinned on /tg/? I never heard about that… though I’m from the Election Tourists gen, so I guess that’s pretty normal
>>131455522He's probably fucked the wyld
>>131455437kitten would've been revived with the machine and dorn is tough as fuck, bruh>>131455470ohhe's the reason why /qst/ exists and is as stagnant as it is, because it lacks what /tg/ gave itfucking cunt
>>131455548Would be crazy and awesome if he did so.
>>131455548But that would be gay!
>>131455375>CatmodOh THAT faggot. I heard a rumor he killed himself due to being a tranny
>>131455569Protean chaos has no gender, baby. You know, even if he's Gaia's baby daddy and has a gun aimed at life's head waiting to pull the trigger the moment Gaia dies.
>>131455470>>131455556>>131455591He's known more colloquially as Nazimod. Notorious for ruining /tg/ and leaving it a wasteland of parasitic spammers, shitposters, and cancerous smutposters making some of the worst threads and posts on the board.Literally the only thread I even bother with nowadays on /tg/ is the Horror general, and the shitposters left in Catmod's wake have done their level best to try and lay waste to that one as well.
I wonder if the Family will interact with any other Hunters? Like the Bear Lodge?Would Big D treat them as rivals or fools for trying to take on Werewolves for sport?
>>131455591>>131455642How was it that bad? Did he ban to that extent? I mean, this is fucking 4chan. How is that even possible?
>>131455661Bear lodge is NWoD. As much as I'd like to see Big D be out freaked by Ashwood abey, they just aren't in the same setting
>>131455642I tried to bring back the storytimes of old with one of my own, yet sadly I feel like it’s a wasted effort. Sad considering /tg/ is what brought me here
>>131455661Fools because the first audiodrama has him warn Kitten that taking on a werewolf is suicidal and honestly comes off as worried about his family. Clearly D has hidden regrets and is trying to protect his precious family.
>>131455680He was why /qst/ was created. The faggot hated fun
>>131455680Catmod nuked literally any thread with content that he found personally offensive. He nuked Quest threads, /tg/'s very best threads and primary source of writing, drawing and just general content creation. He nuked threads calling him out for being a powertripping lunatic, he nuked threads that were purely on-topic, and everything inbetween. He scoured the board so fucking badly that /qst/ was made just in a desperate attempt to keep some of that board culture around. He ruined /tg/ so fucking badly that it has never recovered to this day and likely never will.He is the universal embodiment of why mods no longer engage with anyone here.
>>131455556>>131455470>>131455642>>131455716Everything wrong with /qst/ makes sense with that into perspective. The people who could create were pushed into there. The people who fawned, gave ideas, and had discussion kept on to /tg//qst/ has one actual thread for discussion and it is a bloated mess while actual quest discussion is mocked as being off topic and advertising yourself to what should be your main audience is seen as shilling
>>131455694Well, damn. I do wonder if Big D has experience with American Hunters? He seems to have a poor view of them if the regret in his voice for Door being American means anything.
>>131455754And mods wonder why no one takes them seriously unless they do some funny shitposting that pisses of the other mods
>>131455626>Wyld does nothing and is entirely willing to let the Wyrm and Weaver kill Gaia>will FUBAR the multiverse if Gaia ever diesWhy is he like this
>>131455842retarded primordial asshole, you see
Who would've loved to have seen Shitbeard get a redemption arc?
>>131455778Oh, and it goes to mention WW tried to retcon most of the abey as being monsterphiles, rather than sick fucks who are the sort of people to keep a human hide rug cause werewolves turn back to normal people when you kill them, or keeping a ghost around to make its ritual murders a game or straight up murder-raping a godam SLASHER for kicks, and being so messed up even the guild of serial killers goes "dude, calm down, and get your dick away from that zombies mouth"In the same way they tried to retcon the red talons into not wanting to murder all of humanity.Both attempts were ignored by the fans, cause they were retarded. Trying to make the human monsters who make low humanity vampires, the pure, true fae and all the rest seem like poodles into monster groupies is unforgivable
>>131455842I was gonna answer, but this anon >>131455849 explained it perfectly
>>131455895not reallyhe had low humanityhis cream crackers required a high humanity
>>131455920Most people don't have humanity above 7. Which is the baseline for vampires to. Fuck, just thinking selfish thoughts like, "oh I should defend myself" will make you roll for degeneration at 10 humanity. You can maintain 7 humanity pretty easily if you're careful and don't go full murder hobo8,9 and 10? You have to work to keep that
>>131455920Do we have Kevin's data?
>>131455961he was in the sabbat, bruv>>131455974he's mid to high humanity
>>131455989Damn, Mr Smerples must help amplify that considering he still kept his apartment
>>131455989Yeah but he was still able to reflect on his monstrosity and mourn his lost life. I'd place him at 6 or 5 dots at worse
>>131444603>HORUSAnon, his name is Horse, completely different
>>131456022Didn't he also call out Ape for overfeeding?
>>131456018Mr. Smerples is pure evil and yet he still loves him
>>131456038Classic case of a blood bond, Kevin remains chained by the connections of vitae >>131456036Ye
>>131456028Different universe, same timeline: favorite son turns traitor
>>131453217>How can a man that had sex, with a female, okayed those designs?Perhaps you would too if you had some
>>131455778Given that the Abbey is a thing, his disgust for American Hunters is pretty understandable. Big D clearly isn't a "Kill all the the supernaturals" kind of hunter; he's empathetic and sympathetic to the plight of the entities he encounters and is perfectly willing to solve things peacefully if able, as he expresses to Kitten and even to Kevin. He also expresses clear disdain for the New World Order which is a faction of the Technocracy, so we know where he sits on the whole "genocide magic" thing too.
I hope pentex shows up, in all their Saturday morning captain planet cartoon villains glory
>>131456352I wanna see D wipe the fucking floor with them
>>131456361I want him to save the werecockroaches. Fuckers created them, were upset their immortality wasn't as good as the werespiders, and then locked them in lightness rooms. When they gave the whole species a phobia of darkness For no reason. They let the werefrogs go, and employ the wereapes and wererhinos. It's just needlessly cruel to the roach boys
>>131444603This artist draws smiles the same way that the artist for the webcomic Manly Men Doing Manly things does.
>>131454967Well, everyone loves Rasputin and Dracula was fucking awesome.
>>131455059Bring me that floating fat man!
Why is GamesWorkshop so utterly retarded?
>>131445380I'll be happier when GW pulls the stick out of their ass, but this is a pleasant change.To me this is just another spinoff of TTS, like Bro-Trip.>Captcha>MX 4TK
So no one told me who’s fishman… is it the same as fishmalk? Which I also don’t know about…>>131455697What’s your story about?
>>131452649Yeah, for humans. That extends as far as Vampires and Werewolves as well, but I suspect the Fey have more going on.
>>131456948typical big company with too much money to waste: we can hire any fucking retard who has no idea what they're doing, fill it with faggot tranny nonsense, and big dadd blackrock with its fat money cock will fill us up if we fuck up
>>131456948Despite being Bri'ish, they manage to be almost as tonedeaf as to what their actual target demographic wants, as if they're the horrible amalgamation of a stuffy old Japanese businessman & your average games "journalist" who either flunked out of a useful degree, or got a useless one that no one hires.
>>131444603This series is so incredibly bad.I remember enjoying TTS when it started as it was short, shitty jokes about the 40k universe. But then when it got to be 50 minute puppet shows of bad fan fiction it lost all appeal. And now it is bad fan fiction in a worse universe also feature gays and furries. Not to mention it is debatable weather Black Library's Horus Heresy or TTS did more damage to the overall 40k community.
>>131456923That's sounds like what D would shout if he was hunting Uncle auggie.
>>131455694TTS was in some weird fan on where Ian Watson isn’t the absolute inviolate core of canon. Alfa and his lads give no fucks.
>>131457123>stagnant, literally nothing happens setting>logic, tactics, and events that are unfathomably stupid even if you consider the universe they exist inHow could TTS do this???
>>131445657>daemon Idol moth>Malal shows up with an idol at the end>get hyped up for the next weekend>nothingI was genuinely upset
>>131448004>unirocally prefers the shit lore dumb-sterfire with 40000 unfunny jokes but will still laugh cuz its warhmmer lol
>>131457159I hope Boy capping the main bad guy becomes a recurring theme.
>>131457223imagine the blowjob
>>131457299he is adorable, like his father
>>131457299Even if Auggie is the weakest 3rd gen and a general failure, that kill would make boy a fucking legend
>>131457365I doubt they'd ever do that, but it would be hilarious for boy to do it while he's toying with others and being so confused as to why D and the other vampires that were observing are freaking the fuck out
>>131457223I like that episode but I still believe that Watson is fundamental to 40k and that it’s a shame they couldn’t get more good writers on board early on. Shit, if Tanith Lee had been short on cash when Brian Stableford hit her up early on things could have gotten really fun.
>>131457299So Boy will defeat Caine?
>>131453704>fucking Fishman>>131453795care to elaborate? From WoD retardation I only know Rudi and a vamp sharing (or was it drinking) blood with an infant.
>>131457463nah, no one can3rd gen tho...
>>131457223IMMA BUST A NUT!!!!!
>>131457463Boy is Caine. It’s a recursive theme.
>>131457471>Boy just convinces Caine to say he's sorry to Big G
Man, I just had a terrible thought. What if Augustus Giovanni ends up as Kevin's roommate >>131457469
>>131457503okay, that's funny
>>131444748Yeah but it's gay in the fun way like it was before the fags ruined it
>>131457469And now you just added two more things I want to know about
>>131457603Ever hear about the flesh cathedral,son?
>>131452344This post is art.
>>131457591You mean the part where dudes fuck dudes and chicks fuck chicks and the outrage brigade shuts the fuck up about it?
>>131452344That's the Frenchest post I've seen in a while.
Setites would be big D's kryptonite
>>131457619… now three
>>131457603I hope I won't derail the thread too much
>>131457603found the blood thing
>>131457922what the fuuuuuck
>>131457935The flesh cathedral, thankfully, is not a part of the shit slurry that is v5.It remains pure, and magnificent in its fleshy cathedral splendor
>>131457922This is actually a pretty good parody.
>>131449904Big E is going to get Kevin to Humanity 10 or some shit I just know it
>>131457922In a twisted way it reminds me of Master Shake and Korra
>>131448004I completely passed up on it when I first saw it, I thought it was going to be just some shitty family sitcom thing until I actually sat down and watched everything.Love me some world of darkness stuff. The animation is rough at times and some of the jokes arent all that funny to me but I am 100% looking forward to these giant retards stomping around in this setting.
>>131457806I love 4chan academic discourse.
>>131450063Who drew this?
>>131457619https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Cathedral_of_FleshBe illuminated by the majesty of our hallowed flesh cathedral, neonate
>>131457469Word Bearers are the most pointless chapters in 40k. Even Big E wanted yo disband them for being shit
>>131455642Are they still trying to force that horrorverse bullshit?
>>131458233oh, so that's what a flesh cathedral is
>>131458188Same one that works on the series
So, you know how in TTS, Yugioh matches were a recurring event? In Hunter: The Parenting, can the recurring event be Wrestling Matches?Because I really want to see a Werewolf take on several Vampires in a Hell in the Cell Match.
>>131457922I felt some bones popping by just reading that...
>>131458425And it'd be even better if said vampires were of the Gangrel clan
What's the most effective way to get into the setting?
>>131458532Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
>>131452777So, they 'diablerized' them? Doesn't that raise their generation to 2nd?
>>131457806>See all that and I didn't mention women once. Just like most islamic juriprudence!Oh god my sides
>>131458551Here's the iffy thing about that: generation didn't exist until Caine decided that the antes could go fuck themselves.
>>131458532Read the books, look up lore videos, maybe visit the /tg/ threads, the usual.
>>131458551Generation wasn't a thing back then. Caine made it solely to limit the Antes as a hard fuck you.
>>131455642I only go to /tg/ when a new dungeon meshi chapter drops and occasionally to lurk the character art threads. Ive like the ratkin worldbuilding threads but beyond that there little more to enjoy there for me. /tg/ didnt went to shit, it was willingly shoved into it by the mods there.
>>131451433>gay rape bombSounds like something a militant fujoshit would come up with.
>>131458593Yeah, the 3rd gen had no reason to eat the 2nd. The whole, leveling up processs wasn't in place yet. The C-Dog went all biblical on their asses, made the blood thin and gave all the Antes curses.Though, the blood also, according to some sources, eventually starts to thicken the fuck back up, implying that generations are a cycle and eventually some lucky motherfucker gets to be Caine 2.0
>>131453401I do love this short.
>>131458655The werecoyotes are stated, in the description of said power, to enjoying using it on homophobes, like red necks to "teach them a lesson". What? That they were right to Haye faggots after their entire towns male population depends on them to play stuff the asshole?
>>131450063I thought I felt like I've seen a character like Kevin before, but that picture finally ignited the right neurons to make me remember where.Phineas from "The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers", except replace accounting and having a cat with inventing shit and getting smarked.
I just want them to go back to TTS. When is GW going to stop bitching about fan content ? Is their streaming service losing viewership yet ?
>>131458797They aren't going back, it's pretty obvious with how fast content is being pumped out for this setting compared to TTS stuff in recent years that they were damn tired of Warhammer 40k and took the perfect excuse to stop.
>>131453401Better pack some extra water & trail mix, cause you're going on a loooong trip after eating mushroom people.
>>131458838But are all of them giving up on making Warhammer stuff or just Alfa ?Eliphas and some of the other guys did some funny shorts too
>>131458720I see it. Now I'm hoping he gets two more friends to match Freddy and Franklin.
>>131458866Games Workshop put a moratorium on fan animations.They're all fucking out
>>131458905Fan animation thats monetized or even the free stuff ?
>>131459005No reddit answers please.
>>131455694Does that mean Big D and the other Hunters are Imbued? If we're going by OWoD rules, that would make sense.
>>131458659So we should keep making higher generations until it winds back up? Like an old car’s miles counter?
>>131458960>>131459024It's literally all of it. GW has a blanket ban on ALL fan content based on 40k or Fantasy.>>131459030D and his sons + grandson + son-in-law aren't complete amoral psychopaths, so I doubt they're Imbued.
>>131459045Or slamming it in reverse, since some really old shitboxes counted backwards then.
>>131459045Ain't that easy. Gradual process, and you have to find the lucky ducks of the thinnest of thinbloods, who can somehow still embraces. Thinbloods so high gen they can day walk, eat and have children without blushing or anything
>>131459045>>131459096Also you know, generally a bad idea to rapidly embrace and thin the fuck out of the blood, cause that speeds up the waking of your clans anteduvelian. As seen when the ravnos, like retarded monkeys, decided to beef with the Kuei Jim and performed mass embraces to to the extent they made the Sabbat seem darn picky about who they shovel headed.And then daddy ravnos woke up, sending the whole clan in a cannibalistic orgy frenzy as he began to chow down on them and Bangladesh while his Chimerstry illusions became reality all around himThus began the week of nightmaresTo end game level kuei jin tried to take him down with a magical storm, as all of clan Ravnos murdered and ate eachothet while their progenitor gorged himself on them.Then the technocracy, looked down from their space stations while planning how to punch magic in the dick to cripple it a third time, noticed hell had emerged on earth in the center of Bangladesh and its name was motherfucking RavnosSo they dropped the ghost of one of the nukes that ended WW2 on the cityThis, of course, wiped out anything that somehow survived having Ravnos as its neighbor for a week and the schizo reality aura he created around himself. Including the three kuei jin and all of wraith.Literally the entire wraith gameline died when the technocracy threw the first sucker punch at the angry vampire God.But, despite this massive collateral damage of the main afterlife, and a huge ass city, Ravnos was still fucking kicking And was now extremely pissed off as his Food was gone and something had mildly harmed him. And despite the magic storm being broken, the ancient bastard was so powerful the sun did shit to him.But, the technocracy wouldn't let the world end so easil, so uttering the immortal line "we have more than one way to bring the sun to Bangladesh"
>>131458386Huh, a tremere with a black cat. Also listen closely near the end of the third drama. You'll hear a familiar voice
>>131458629Reading the wikis also helps. Lexicanuum got me into the 40k lore
>>131458652I started hitting /tg/ regularly around 2016, but not heavily until 2018. What have I experienced of this process?Also, nazimod (I have heard that name, but I thought it was the guy who crushes anything he thinks might be furry on /co/, like val salia) is gone, so what stops anyone from getting creative? Inertia? I mean, I've seen people try. And how it goes, but I don't really understand.
>>131459267And proceeded to move the massive orbital mirrors they had all around space, to concentrate and direct a beam of sunlight, turning it into a godamn orbital laser beam.Which they aimed and fired at Ravnos, right as his spooky ass crawled out of the crater that had been Bangladesh. It was q cheap shot, but it worked, and a creature that had drank the blood of Gods and witnessed the flooding of the world and endured eons as an apex predator of the night was burned like an ant under a magnifying glass by a bunch of nerds. Nerds who just bought the world some time and prevented it from immediately becoming a larder for the 3rd generation by fucking killing one of them.A feat only repeated by unknown forces when Lasombra became a world covering shadow and spent months drinking blood and souls during gehenna before something took him down.Praise the technocracy
>>131459377So Ravnos is perma kill? And did ghost nuke went into ghost world and ghost nuked the afterlife into after-afterlife?
>>131459377>A feat only repeated by unknown forces when Lasombra became a world covering shadow and spent months drinking blood and souls during gehenna before something took him down.i hated that
>>131459521Yep. In the 20th anniversary edition of VtM, week of nightmares happened and the only ravnos still around were lucky sons of bitches or members of the Sabbat that survived by being beaten into torpor and tied down by their pack mates.And kind of. See, when lots of people die, it causes a great maelstrom in the underworld/shadowlands, which destroys it and wipes the slate their clean. This was the sixth and last.The fall of rome, black plague, Colonization of America, Spanish flu, WW2, atomic bombings and the holocaust all caused a great maelstrom.The technocracy using the ghost of one of the atomic bombs made the sixth happen completely by accident, since by sheer coincidence they sit it off next to the mouth of oblivionThis actually lead to an obscure gameline called orpheus, focused around exploring the remains of the underworld
>>131459640Meant to say week of nightmares still happened in 20th, even if they removed Gehenna and kept the setting as if it had continued as if nothing happenedV5 just pretended it never happened, but that's the least of its crimes against the lore
>>131459376>What have I experienced of this process?The tail end, garbage forced memes and a disinterest in creativity.>what stops anyone from getting creative? Inertia?In practical terms yes, it's inertia and the community, though I don't like describing the boards that way.What /tg/ used to have was a host of lurkers and active posters that had a genuine interest in creative exercises and ideas. These people would respond positively to threads, offering insight and ideas of their own while giving the threads staying power and popularity.What /tg/ has now is shitposters who will ridicule with dumb shit they think is funny, if the thread gets many responses at all. Because there's not much of anything for them, the occasional creative types go elsewhere rather than stick around.This could change, but that isn't likely.
>>131459267>>131459377This shit feels like something out of SS13, except not just on a SpaceStation, and people ain't just powergaming for meme moments.
>>131459925That's kind of mage in general. Especially the technocracy. Fuck, one of the sons of ether took over the world after WW1 enforce piece and the dominan of higher Learning. Which forced the traditions and technocracy to team up to stop the Tzar of earth and his zeppelins.He was only stopped cause the technocracy ran out of killer robots trying to kill his ass, and started sensing genetically modified troops in their place. And the good tzar was a pacifist who refused to end another human life, so he took his zeppelins away from the skies above every major city, and retreated.At which point the accumulated paradox he had earned by breaching the masquerade so flagrantly and openly using massive amount of magic smacked him out of existence to the point, in history he just never was born.And he still survived out of reality somehow, and in one of mages end of the day scenarios leads his fleet of zepplins to help save the world and reality
>>131459267>>131459377>>131460247Man. Fuck mage
>>131444603Dont care about the show with the fags.Ay least tts had enough sense to not push the faggot shit in it
>>131445380Its really not that great, and the constant fag shit is really eyerolly.I liked the restraint and respect they had for 40k, this just feels like an excuse to virtue signal instead of working on better writing
>>131459925OWoD is basically what happens when you put a bunch of assholes with various super powers and no wisdom nor foresight of what they should do with them.it's great
>>131460508Did you miss the custodies?
>>131460576you're letting hints of gayness blind you to the substance, anonlike, i don't like faggots either, but you're acting like a faggot ass soibeard right now
>>131448004I agree. Also making kitten and magnus fags is so weird, especially since they were basically mom and son in tts.Weird oediple shit.Transfering the characters feels like it would be fun and work but the end result is just jarring, like one of them is having a fever dream.Dorns autism doesnt make sense in this universe.
>>131460578Like, let's look at the bunyips. Or rather their extermination, which has effectively banned all werewolves from Australia due to the various curses the spirits of the land have thrown at them for killing all of the bunyips for adapting to fuck a different species of canid besides wolves Every other shifter can stay there perfectly fine
>>131460642It very much does. Every group in WoD has one skill monkey autist or two. It helps keep the party alive, especially in hunter
>>131460595The custodes were fun jokes. It was fine that they were gay strippers because it turned what they were in lore (kinda) to 100 and gives an internal antagonist for kitten.>>131460642Is right the Magnus being a fag with kitten is so weird and forced. It being forced into the writing (like with the vamps) is so cringy and out of place.Big E being super accepting fits but having them be huge fags is so off. Also starting with Dorn having adopted boy was a mistake. It should have happened in the story naturally
>>131460836>Magnus being a fag with kitten is so weird and forcedAnd Angron x Lotara isn't? Or Guilliman x Yvraine?
>>131460578Not sure how I should feel about that also being a kinda good description of the BattleTech meta lore.
>>131460672Werewolves fucking ruin everything. Not even the Demons or Caine fucked things this hard.
>>131461067Funny that they’re all in a hell of their own making
>>131460597Nah man, it could have great it had all the ingredients. Its not even the fag, its how he wrote them and people around them
>>131461097Fucks deserve it.
>>131459267>>131459377It ahoyld be noted that doing all this fucking exploded most of the Technocracy's Horizon worlds, advanced tech, most of their scientists and oracles, and a whole bunch more from sheer Paradox backlash lapsing into the Umbra. Killing Ravnos was so intensive that it effectively crippled the Technocracy, and meant that all the shit that followed the Week of Nightmares could basically happen with impunity.
>>131461196That just makes it cooler
>>131452344Malkavian poon is where its at desu
>>131454370Googled it and according to the wiki, it wasn't a loli it was a shota that killed Baba Yaga. A shota that was about to be executed for killing villagers as a human child before he was turned by the nossie's antedeluvian, then immediately ate most of the villagers and saved the rest for later.Vasilisa was probably a genius killer as a human and that translated very well into his unlife, he was also BFF (best fuck forever) with his sire.So it's not too far fetched that the shota fucked over the hag.
>>131461919>BFF (best fuck forever) with his sire.eww
>>131444790I've said it before and I'll say it again: Whatever they said their feelings were, I feel like giving up on TTS was secretly a huge relief in terms of no longer needing to resolve all the plot threads seeing how convoluted and overstuffed the writing got right before they sort of turned it around in the last episode.>>131444914Same principles as the Hunter in Age of Resistance, anon. The brightest flame burns half as long, twice as bright.
>>131448004I look at the current state of 40K and that abortion of Fantasy they call AoS, and James Workshop being shit aside I honestly can't fault them for giving up on the setting.>>131448116Yeah, that would make sense. Mikaboshi the Yama King would be a good fit for the Deceiver come to think of it, although getting into Kindred of the East lore is probably too big an ask. Especially if /someone/ gets the idea to make jokes about E X A L T E D references and how many things for Infernals are name-lifted from Kindred.
>>131450563That nigga who Diablerised the Lasombra Ante lucked out bigtime. Doesn't even have any big ambitions from what I remember, he just wants to chill.
>>131452980The Gehenna scenario where Ennoia fucking wins at life by just burrowing underground, letting all the other retards kill each other or fuck off and EATS AND REPLACES GAIA WHILE NOBODY WAS LOOKING is hilarious. Out of all the Antes she's the only one to live up to the idea of an Ante transcending it's vampirism, and just peaces out as the new spirit of the planet.
>>131453077Honestly I don't care about much of the current cast being GAY GAY GAY because Alfa introduced the Fabulous Custodies way back. I have complete faith in the guy who took actual JoJo reference jokes and somehow fleshed them out into actual characters that just happen to be homo.
I thought the joke with Magnus and Kitten is that Magnus was excited to have a friend because he didn't have a childhood (like getting excited for a bike), not that he was gay for Kitten.
>>131462132Tzimisce absolutely seething
>>131453191>>131453210You cannot ever stress enough what fuckups, what useless shitheads, what goddamn dumbass motherfuckers the Garou are. There's a reason why the Lunar Exalted, which are based on them designwise, are also fucking useless in their setting.>But the Caul-The Caul is the perfect example of Lunar embarrassment. Imagine committing one of your greatest strategists and his prodigies to defending a piece of wilderness with no strategist value and ONLY making gains on it after the Realm has pulled back most of their Dragonblooded forces (for those who don't know Exalted, imagine like...season 3 Korra but there's hundreds of them and most of them are asian-european redhead amazons instead of brown ones) because their own civil war is a bigger priority than Lunars.
>>131453260>The Practices are too fractured and weakVoormas did nothing wrong.>Changelings are fighting a losing war against BanalityTo be fair, nobody cares about Changelings or their conflict. In fact the coming of Banality is probably a good thing in the Technocracy's book
>>131454554Demon is based simply for being the only canon nWoD splat that the Beast Mary Sue "we're family, that means we MUST get along-even you, Changelings ;^)" aura doesn't work on. Whatever they are, the bullshit happy feeling that makes them think everyone is connected to the Dark Mother does NOT fire on them. Which means that Demons are ripe for going full Kamen Rider on Beasts.>>131462162Big D straight up calls Kitten his son in law at one point, but yeah most of the jokes are Magnus getting a chance to finally nerd out and getting Door into vidya
>>131462242>Big D straight up calls Kitten his son in lawNah I get that, I was talking about the comparison between TTS and this. I wasn't sure the implication in TTS was that Magnus and Kitten were gay for each other.
>>131462242What are these "Beasts" specifically? I ask because I'm not familiar
So what's the lore breakdown of Werewolf: The Apocalypse? I'm only just somewhat read up on Vampires lore since Bruv has been making Hunter, but haven't looked into anything besides Vampire: The Masquerade. From what I've been able to pick up, Werewolves are some autism Cape-tier level of overpowered and are bystanders to the human Nuclear Apocalypse, and they're the only ones who can tough it out? Kind of like cockroaches? I'm probably completely fucking wrong. Reminds me I have to hop to /tg/ to see if they got the new 5th Edition Hunters pdf.
>>131453369Man, I'm glad there's still stuff out there that can make me squint and reel a little.
>>131462287Ah right, fair enough.>>131462293The nWoD version of bogeymen, basically. Dudes who wake up one day to find out a monster of nightmare is living in their soul. They gain power and grow by feeding off fear, which their culture rationalises as "lessons" they are meant to enact on humanity, and have the ability to create localised supernatural phenomena out of a nightmare as well as the ability to transform themselves to a lesser extent. Think the kind of things Pennywise did in the movies. Each also has a Lair, a sort of pocket dimension in the astral realms, in which they can do even more nasty shit; compare Pennywise out and about to Pennywise when the kids are fighting it in the second movie, basically. They believe they're descended from a figure called the Dark Mother (who has in turn been theorised to be the nWoD's Tiamat, Lilith etc in-universe) who is also a common ancestor to the other types of supernatural being, and that's how they explain their ability to develop new powers by observing other supernatural entities or empower theirs. Except Demons. Also as noted above, Beasts are the awful, awful idea of a sex criminal and when you get down to it literally otherkin with powers. It's also not gone unnoticed that a MUCH better fangame, Leviathan the Tempest, handled a similar premise much better way before Beast was published.
>>131462307Furry eco terrioists that live in the woods and fuck wolves
>>131461163I think it works for new setting, all the characters had a fair amount changed about them so they weren't just carbon copies of their TTS versions and Kitten/Magnus being in relationship makes sense for the new dynamic.
>>131462384It's amusing Werewolf the Forsaken just made it's villain-werewolves be the Garou but renamed the Pure and split into three different factions of batshit insane.
>>131462411How tight is garou pussy?
>>131462422Have you ever opened a fortune cookie?
>>131462422ask Big D and his son, Leeman Russel
>>131462411Its a personal headcannon of mine that the pure tribes are exclusively made up of dog fuckers
>>131462500Guarantee you Big D knocked up a corax to create Corey
What's the fastest and easiest way to learn World of Darkness lore?
>>131462307Werewolves are autistic eco-terrorists fighting a losing war against the cosmic principle of destruction, decay, and entropy as well as the servants thereof all whilst shitting on humans for falling into the embrace of the cosmic principle of order, technology, and stasgnation (which they caused) who drove the former principle utterly insane. They are also, ultimately, the big reason why the World of Darkness is the World of Darkness.>>131462512You probably are not wrong.
>>131461962Vampires are degenerates. Not as degenerate as Black Spiral Dancers or your average Pentex upper class, but they're still fucked up.
>>131461919>>131461962Fun fact about Vasilisa: he can appear as anything he wants to be, regardless of form or gender. It's why the wiki and book default to "it" instead, since nobody knows what Vasilisa originally looked like. The only thing that's consistent is that he appears in an innocent looking form. This also means that the fucked up sex shit he got up to with his sire is way worse than what you're thinking of.
>>131462616Black Spiral Dancers? Pentex? How degenerate do they get?
>>131462664https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Dog_Game_Factory_(Pentex)they make board games
>>131462664>PentexBasically Captain Planet Villains worshipping old gods of destruction and such. Super Corpo types in World of Darkness.
>>131462686That's probably a fair amount of what he's doing, yes.
>>131462587>They are also, ultimately, the big reason why the World of Darkness is the World of Darkness.Care to elaborate? I'm curious on your take.Let me give my understanding, thoughWyld. Weaver. Worm. Wyld makes Garou, Garou police Humans and probably fuck up something along the way, probably causing tech to advance rapidly and self-genocide to Garou. Vampires are byproducts of the Weaver, and Humans are unaware but direct servants of the Weaver? Wyld's slowly dying because all of this shit is a mess. And Garou are the Strongest creatures in the setting, because they are the direct creation of the One Uncorrupted Primeval Force in the Setting? And everything else is either there, below, or in-between? Like how the Wyld (probably, total guess here) crosses over the the Fae realm or whatever is probably else in WoD
>>131462293>>131462379It also has to stated that the original version of Beast was hated about as much as something could be, a game where you literally play as an abusive monster who was friends with all the "cool" kids and whose enemies were so pathetic they couldn't touch you. Beasts are opposed by people called "Heros," who are painted as bad guy racists because they are psychically compelled to hunt the Beasts. Beasts are portrayed as good guys throughout the book despite the fact that they are literally monsters that only want to torture ordinary people and all heroes were literally portrayed as karens and gamergaters who deserved everything that happened to them. This only got slightly altered when the wokescold that was the driving force behind the book was outed as an actual fucking rapist.
>>131462863>Care to elaborate? I'm curious on your take.See >>131453191 and associated posts for how badly they've fucked everything.>Wyld makes GarouTechnically correct, but also no. Gaia made the Garou, and Gaia's relationship to the Wyld is anything from daughter, to sister, to mother, to wife, to all of the above.>Vampires are byproducts of the Weaver, They're considered Wyrm-tainted actually. Though they work under both due to the Camarilla existing.>and Humans are unaware but direct servants of the Weaver? Pretty close, yeah. Humanity unwittingly works in accordance to the Weaver's goals, though some knowingly serve it.>And Garou are the Strongest creatures in the setting, because they are the direct creation of the One Uncorrupted Primeval Force in the Setting?Eh, only by technicality. In practice, Garou can't really take on shit like 4th Gen and above vamps, Technocratic mages, Nephandi, or Demons and the like (who were actually there during the Fall, with those like Lucifer recalling what God is/was before it fucked off). And there are more effective Fera at killing than even the Garou, such as the werecrocs. Garou are definitely much higher than most though.
>>131456968GW will never get the stick out of their ass. Their legal team has convinced execs that if they don't control fan content they'll lose money, and once you go down that road there is no going back.
>>131462931Having yarr harr'd the finished product out of curiosity, I honestly don't see any meaningful difference between the two. Heroes are 100% in the right and justified. Beasts all deserve to be genocided off the face of the earth. Suffer not the xeno, the daemon and the heretic.
>>131463053Not a /biz/fag but three seconds in Google gives me the impression the legal team is desperately saying whatever comes to mind in the hope they won't be made redundant.
>>131463119>he pays attention to stocks to tell company well-being
>>131460576>>131460508>Dont care about the show with the fagsWoD is not for you then
>>131463210Shit like this doesn't stop them
>>131459376Its a combination of lots of things, but in last... I want to say five years, you've also got two new problems that pull in the same general direction. 1) General culture completely taking over the board, so you get these balkanised little communities discussing the exact same things every day, and then immediately remaking the same thread to do it again, with increasing hostility to the kind of free form, single topic thread discussion that was the board's bread and butter. New content doesn't develop as organically, because people with different perspectives who could contribute to something outside their normal wheelhouse dont even see most of the posts anymore 2) people from reddit, twitter, imgur and YouTube taking anon posts as part of their own hustle / personal brand building. It was annoying when it was just for clout and imaginary Internet points, but people actually profiting with extremely low effort "text to speech readings, like comment and subscribe for more" and paid promotions next to screen caps caused a massive chilling effect. Why make the effort to write something amusing when some other fat loser will directly profit from it? When someone posts a potentially interesting thread starter, its tainted by the suspicion that it's been started by someone desperate for channel content, not for the love of whatever absurd thing it is today. Anons also learn from each other how to behave and what the culture appreciates from screencaps - if screencaps are posted less to spite content harvesters, how do you learn that you CAN post random thread topics.Combine that with a demographic shift across the whole site towards the most miserable gits on the Internet coming here to moan and we are where we are.
>>131463119Anon pls, this GW has shot itself in the foot in much worse ways before
>>131462981Weaver did nothing wrong
>>131462387Too bad the sorta-friendly sorta-hostile interactions between them in TTS were among my favorite things, and that shit got staked hardcore with the implication of them being in a relationship.So excuse me for being salty AF about that shit and hating it with the intensity of a thousand suns, because I have a very good reason to do so.
>>131453191HAHAHAHAHAHA IMAGINEIMAGINE HAVING TO PROTECT OTHER FERA BUT THEN DOING MORE DAMAGE TO THEM THAN WYRM EVER COULDGAIA MUST BE SLAMMING HER HEAD AGAINST THE METAPHORICAL WALL AT THE SHEER RETARDATION OF GAROU HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAOooh, oooh, don't forget to mention how they also had their own genocided for no reason as well
>>131463098The "revised" version has some of the dumber bits taken out, but the main point is that they changed the relationship with Beasts and Heroes. In the first draft, Beasts who did terrible things and "overfed" basically traumatised people of low moral character so much that they became obsessed with murdering the Beast that did it. In the revised version, Heroes and Beasts are on the same spiritual wavelength, so a hero knows when a beast does something horrible. A "good hero" knows not to intervene, however, so any ones that come after a Beast are fair game. Except that this fig leaf isn't consistently applied through the whole book or its expansion, so whatever. The Fatal & Friends review does a side by side comparison, if you want to know more.I personally really like the rest of nWoD, and unlike that anon above think techno demons as spy fiction is really cool, but I can understand some people prefer the 90s books. Beast, however, serves exactly one purpose, and that's if someone says "Beast is great game that didnt deserve the hate!" you know you should shun them (and probably check their basement)
>>131464462Yeah, Games Workshop is the worst tabletop games manufacturer apart from all the others. They might be coasting on their sheer size, but its amazing how terrible some of the other names in the industry are. Privateer Press came pretty close the last time GW almost killed themselves, and then catastrophically fucked it almost immediately.
>>131464611> In the revised version, Heroes and Beasts are on the same spiritual wavelength, so a hero knows when a beast does something horrible.I repeat.EVEN in revised, Heroes. Did. Nothing. Wrong.>A "good hero" knows not to intervene, however, so any ones that come after a Beast are fair game. Except that this fig leaf isn't consistently applied through the whole book or its expansion, so whatever. >"You're a GOOD boy if you don't bully the poor wittle innocent Beasts!"Wow, that sounds even worse actually. Beasts legitimately deserve to be lynched. >the rest of nWoDIt has it's cool parts, yeah. I don't mind the techno-gnosticism, I just feel there are more interesting things to explore in it like what exactly the relationship between Strix and vampires is and what the Principle's deal is. At least the True Fae and the Judges of Duat got a fair shake (even if the Judges of Duat are awkwardly attached to a gameline which, from one interpretation at least, posits it's gods as the "original" ones that created all others. Which is a surefire way to trigger Magefags into a screeching outrage about how the Supernal is outside of time and space and retroactive, nevermind the fact that Imperial Mysteries explicitly states ALL the major splats have some sort of sponsor operating at the archmage level to prevent them from being trivially wiped out by an Imperial Working, and that the Exarchs fear even the fallen Supernal gods.Anyway, personally I think Demon the Descent is a really cool game with lore as shallow a puddle-but more importantly, cool powers, cool systems and a dynamic conflict that can be fitted to basically any party. As a game it far surpasses Demon the Fallen. The one major problem I have with it is that /it doesn't feel like you're playing a demon/ and should have been named something like Agent the Matrix or Golem the Rampage or something. All your powers are tech-themed, and explicitly artificial compared to what spirits and the like use.
>>131464488You never talk shit with your boyfriend, Anon?What a fag.
>>131446221Yeah, fucking love how he could've won at almost any point and simply chose not to because he was so arrogant.
>>131464795The kind of schism and conflicts between characters in something that can best be described as a buddy-cop action drama but without any cops, isn't something any amount of suspense of disbelief can make work as a actual romantic relationship.And the former thing is what I'm missing from those two goofballs like a jonesing heroin addict is missing their next fix.
>>131464691>>131464611, here, I must admit I can really take or leave Mage. I mean, who doesn't love a gameline built around solving mysteries and suffering hubristic downfalls that just tells you outright all the setting details as blunt facts and makes avoiding your plans backfiring trivially easy? I tend to take the view that if I have to accept Imperial Mysteries supplement from 1st edition, then a Mage fan has to also accept that a Hunter can trepan the magic right out of them with a tactic from the Vigil's Witchfinder book. What, that doesn't make sense? Gosh, what a MYSTERY. Perhaps you should investigate why it clearly works. The abyss is pretty cool, so long as its not the only explanation for weird things.Speakingvof, with Descent Demons, I take the view when I ST that the God Machine and its minions are just one *thing* of many. They aren't the only demonic entities out there, whether they're Pandemonium critters, godawful abyssal horrors or stranger things that defy easy categorisation. We're on pretty much the same wavelength, I think - I dont really like the 2nd edition buildup of The God Machine, although I understand why the developers did it under the circumstances with CCP Games and then Paradox.Maybe we'll get more about the Strix in Requiem for Rome 2.
I hope we get scenes or even episodes focusing on different groups. Be it vampires, werewolves, mummies or other humans.
>>131458659Caine VS Caine 2.0 would be interesting
>>131464604Gaia quite simply never intended for the Garou to ever try and take on the Wyrm on their own or hell, even exist beyond the need for acting as guardians to the other Fera. She needed warriors FAST, so she rushed them out of beta with little thought.Turns out that was a terrible idea.
>>131465234In her defense they did work pretty alright for a few millennia.I mean it did all go to shit mind you but as hotfixes go she did pretty alright. The spiritual equivalent of duct tape can only do so much.
>>131463237This isn't even go woke go broke, this was literally get retarded get fired, how the fuck no one thought this was a bad idea?
>>131465754Paradox was encouraged to buy White Wolf by an employee named Martin Ericsson who larped as Dracula (this is not a joke, Swedish Dracula paid money to have himself be the dracula portrait in one of the kickstarter books - pic related). Paradox buys it all for a relatively cheap amount because the EVE Online developers are tired of botheting with it, Martin gets put in charge of the entire line and immediately directs it into being 1st edition early 90s Masquerade centred around his own live action rp rules, homebrew and fluff. His first actual product as brand manager was a Vampire: the Masquerade slot machine. This was the leadership that steered a team of halfwits into an international incident at mach 3.
>>131465754Yeh, never mistake plain ol' retardation with corporate pandering.The former is something almost everyone universally hates.
>>131465754The guy in charge of White Wolf under Paradox was literally the worst kind of obsessive larper is why.
>>131464687Games Workshop never ceases to amaze me, at one moment they seem to be real cunning businessmen, the next they are blubbering retards that you can't help but question how they they haven't gone bankrupt yetSometimes both at the same time
>>131465927>because the EVE Online developers are tired of botheting with itWait wait, what? EVER Online?
I am kind of hoping they add in some stuff from nWoD. I like prometheans a lot so i hope they have a episode about them
>>131457503Boy is Able reincarnated.
When is there going to be an Alfa-verse crossover?We already have 3 different Dorns are all act and sound the very same. I wanna see a room with 10+ Dorns just all straight forward monotone saving the day.
>>131463210>>131463237>The World of Darkness has always been about horror, and horror is about exploring the darkest parts of our society, our culture, and ourselves. >Horror should not be afraid to explore difficult or sensitive topics, but it should never do so without understanding who those topics are about and what it means to them.>Real evil does exist in the world, and we can’t ever excuse its real perpetrators or cheapen the suffering of its real victims. In the Chechnya chapter of the V5 Camarilla book, we lost sight of this. >The result was a chapter that dealt with a real-world, ongoing tragedy in a crude and disrespectful way. We should have identified this either during the creative process or in editing. This did not happen, and for this we apologize. holy shit my sides are in orbit, I would say you can't make this shit up but those writers didn't fucking hesitate
>>131448004They were WH40K characters to youThey are the personas of the voice actors to them.And some are damn good at their job.
>>131448116i honestly feel that any wod lore beyond vtm is completely retarded.
>>131463119wait, what the hell did they do to get nearly x3 increase since 2019?
>>131468880That is popularly attributed to people needing to busy their hands while locked down from Covid. Which means that watching their stock contract now is also expected. We'll see how the company reacts.Can I hear more about Beast? I read the Fatal & Friends thing once, but I've never seen it discussed on here.
>>131468880>things GW didn't docreate Astartes which released over 2019>things GW did probably do break into a lab in Wuhan and fuck a bunch bats there
>>131467362They're run by astonishingly greedy businessmen who refuse to understand their product and pretty obviously have nothing but contempt for their audience, but they've been blessed with really strong marketable aesthetics, a unique set up that's let them bully their way to the top of the market and stay there, and an audience with more whales than the Sea of Japan. Its an exploitative nightmare of monopoly capitalism that completely insulated the people at the top from their demented decisions, and it keeps going because some people really will pay any price for Space Marines so long as the marine makers aren't actively calling them morons.
>>131468026Probably won't happen due to the GW ban, I assume one or two characters might get away safely but full on crossover will never occur
>>131464932I'm still totally convinced we'll meet other TTS characters when we meet other factions like the Anarch, the Camarilla, etc. It'd be a lot more fun if they dynamics were a little bit shifted too. Door seems exceedingly capable to have on your team: but what if, when faced with a Garou, we learn Door actually has a phobia of Dogs? I guess Magnus would be the best example for this but my boy Magnus has gone through enough give him a break.I've been saying it since the newest audiolog but I'm 100% convinced the Tremere reagent is going to be based on Shdaowsun and be Son-In-Laws ex girlfriend.
>>131453339I can watch this multiple times and never be bored. I mean, holy shit, it's all so perfect.
>>131467979Abel is a wraith or something.
>>131468816It helps that V:TM is built with the premise that you can sit down with your friends and do a campaign in your hometown and just set it in either current year or past year, and go through the events that happened as you remember them with the added caveat of Leeches pulling the strings. Anything disrupting that delicate balance of "Humanity is mostly ignorant of the supernatural" gets harder and harder to justify when there's like 9 different systems for the hyper-realistic modern setting.
>>131469835Magnus wouldn't fear dogs, he'd just super babby hate dogs.Magnus would have no problem kicking a dog in the throat.And as for my own wish, it's Door Having an estranged son boy knows nothing about who's a violent punk-ish skinhead type person.
>>131469779NOOO I need to hear Dorn's voice actor have to play off himself like it was The Nutty Professor and Dorn is Eddie Murphie.
>>131470043Ooh, I like that. Make him an Anarch whenever we're done with the Camarilla stuff and exposed to them and it'd be Golden.
>>131470091Nahhhh, if not-Sigismund were an actual vampire Door would kill him immediately.In fact, I bet his own son being a vampire would make him twice as motivated to end him, because that's like a personal fuck up.It would be fun if not-Sigismund joined a different group of hunters who's philosophy WILDLY differed from the main group's.Bonus points if he's little more than a peon for that group but he's SUPER zealous about it.More bonus points if not-Sigismund secretly wishes to impress and reconcile with his dad but he's inherited his father's legendary stubbornness.
>>131467377Yes, that EVE online, the spreadsheets and spaceships simulator, and BOY are you in for a treat https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/05/world-of-darkness-the-inside-story-mmo-ccp-white-wolf‘No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh’ He hissed on his fucking fingertips, like the air coming out of a bicycle tire, and then just walked away.”Short version: White Wolf is doing well, partners with Icelandic CCP games. In theory CCP wants to develop a WoD memory, in practice they actively damage the teams and sit on the licence. The last financial crash happens in the late 00s, the entire publishing industry takes massive damage but especially RPG parts of it, because books become very expensive to produce (especially glossy high production affairs with a very niche audience) and ereaders and such aren't nearly as accepted as today. White Wolf suffers some more. Eventually it gets so bad that Paradox can pick them up for cheap... and this guy is put in charge. >>131465927 At some point the teams running the nWoD content are cut back almost to nothing and are moved to a separate imprint called Onyx Path that essentially just has a handful of employees, lots of freelancers and funds projects entirely by kickstarter. This model produces some excellent work (Demon the Descent and recently Deviant the Renegade, which is essentially Guyver: The RPG) and also Beast (a blight).>>131468924Well what do you want to know? There's very few people with active experience who've played it, because it's universally panned. Luckily, the developer did a playthrough game showing off how you're meant to do it!https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?759812-Beast-The-Primordial-Roots-in-the-CommunityIts AMAZING. And thats from BEFORE the allegations!I wish we could talk about good things sometimes. I'm prepping a Changeling and a Hunter game and its really getting me back into it
>>131470155Damn, I got so lost in WoD I forgot 40k and Sigismund existed
>>131470232>Matt plays John Dawson (Ugallu (Predator). He owns a house in the neighborhood, where he takes people (children, often), whose families are lying to one another and otherwise toxic. He lets them freak out, then returns the kid a few days later, unharmed. >Dawson finishes up the practice, noting which parents are there cheering for their kids and which ones stay on their cell phones the whole time, ignoring what's going on. He doesn't need to feed right now, but he notes which of his charges might need to get lost for a few hours at some point, just enough to make their parents take notice. The other characters:>Michelle's character is Maia Wallis (Makara Ravager). Maia prefers to feed by getting into relationships with men and then slowing wrecking their lives. They're free to walk at any point, of course (she doesn't stalk them if they break up with her). She teaches the lesson that some relationships are toxic and it's better to end them. >Toasty's character is Tyler Townsend (Eshmaki Nemesis)... As a Nemesis, he tries to teach thieves that their lives aren't worth whatever they're trying to steal (he runs an antique shop).>Amanda plays Miriana Kyle (Eshmaki Predator)... As a Predator, she seeks to remind people that their status on the food chain isn't a given - even people can be prey.
>>131470348Literally the "cool" adult that will let kids come down to his basement to "hang out." Like Dean fucking Corll.
>>131470348The only vaguely moral one here is the antique shop owner defending his shit, and I can’t tell whether that’s by design or whether the creators literally thought these were morally correct characters. I mean for fuck’s sake, John’s description comes off like they’re trying to support child molesters.
>>131470232>Well what do you want to know?As someone who is remarkably obtuse and needs this stuff pointed out to him, please draw the links between the maker's deviance and the sanctimonius attitude of the book. Ikm rereading the F&F thing, and I'm wondering if these 'stereotypes' quotes are in all the books, because they are the cringiest thing. Also, tell me more about Guyver: The RPG, holy shit why have I never heard of this.
>>131470155Pretty sure Sigismund was an overzealous hunter who's methods Door didn't agree with
>>131470726One of the suggested ways to play that kind of Beast is to make sure something valuable is put somewhere tempting and then murderape anyone who so much as looks at it. In fact, here's an example from the book itself!>Patrick and Ahmed are a Makara Collector and a Makara Nemesis, respectively, who fell in love. Patrick placed his treasures at the bottom of Ahmed’s lake, and Ahmed resolved to punish all those who would dare to steal his lover’s hoard. People come to the lake to almost every week, looking to dive down and take the “abandoned treasure.” Of course, Patrick makes sure to spread the rumors about the treasure. That way people come looking, and his lover gets to punish them.See? You don't even have to make it as obvious as an antique shop.>>131470751Beasts are abuse elementals, essentially. They act like vampires, in that they hurt people to feed, but they look exactly the same as you or I until they bring you back to their lair. The book deliberately writes Beasts as being a persecuted minority, and their antagonists as gamergaters, soccer mom busy bodies, and bigots in general. Beasts have "urges" to feed, but its all part of the natural order and a good person knows to let them do it. You've read the F&F review - all the quotes, including the steotypes, are genuinely in the book. It's horrible stuff, right?After the book comes out, someone makes an accusation that the lead writer-developer, Matt Mcfarlane (John Dawson the predatory coach >>131470348) abused them as a teenager. Its investigated and serious enough to get Matt pulled from the project. Then more people come forward with similar claims. Then it turns out that Matt's wife not only knew, but helped cover it up. This suddenly puts a whole lot more context into the "we're super special souls who just want to be left alone (to molest people)"
>>131471125Oh, his wife knew? That is a new level- that's beyond one guy's dark compulsions and into systematic behavior. Which is the difference between the book being a Freudian slip or being conscious propaganda.
>>131471125writing up this post I did come across a reddit page on Hobby drama titled "[RPG] Beast: The Primordial, or the story of Matt McFarland" which covers this all in detail if you care to know more There's also a F&F review of the Beast expansion, which is worth reading for Null Snyper (the hacker on steroids behind Gamergate) and The Blind Man dick eggs. No, I will not provide further context.>Also, tell me more about Guyver: The RPG, holy shit why have I never heard of this.Its called Deviant: the Renegades and its more or less just come out. You play as someone who has been remade by something horrible and now has funky powers and an equal amount of bizarre scars. This is probably the best writeup I can find for you quickly, you can almost certainly get the actual book from /tg/https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Deviant:_The_Renegades
>>131471225Nobody knows, but its creepy as all get out and the author line is so obvious, so threaded through the text and survived multiple rewrites that it taints the whole thing. It's why Beast's only real use is to create immensely hateable antagonists or as a filter for the worst kind of player - you DO NOT want an unironic beast fan at the table. It's an amazing hate read though.Oh, also, while I remember, one of the later Hunter books did touch on Beasts the Sunny in Philadelphia crew grind them up for viagraYou know what, even with all that, this has been a nice thread. Thanks anons.
>>131471475Haha, wtf. Well, thanks for the info. This really has been a good thread.
>>131471264You can easily make a kamen rider with deviant. Which is great
Until the next Audiolog, COMPANIONS
>>131471921Taco Tuesday's on FridayTHE POWER OF CHOAS PREVAIL!
>>131445380I'm gonna be real with you anon, I liked TTS less and less with every episode. It just became some animated fanfic with humour that didn't always stick the landing.Hunter is great, it's a breath of fresh air.
>>131455661>>131455694>>131457182They'll probably pick and choose shit as they go along, hell they might even use stuff from v5
>>131472536What a horrible thought, why would you wish that on anyone>>131455694Cheiron a best although Ashwood best tier 2
>GETBENTGETBENTGETBENTGETBENTGETBENTGETBENT!I actually got fond of ol' Richard Porter, he should have survived somehow
>>131472699Him and Kevin had the most humanity out of the group. Ape and Pyotr were pricks. Shitbeard deserved a redemption arc
>>131472721he was a bruj*h
>>131472136REMOVE CHOAS, REMOVE CHOAS, REMOVE CHOAS, REMOVE CHOAS, REMOVE CHOAS, REMOVE CHOAS, REMOVE CHOAS, REMOVE CHOAS,
>>131472136>Taco Tuesday's on Fridayheathen the taco must only be consumed on tuesdayso sayeth adornable