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Somewhere in the infinite Multiverse, there exists a version of the Marvel Universe where, instead of a Peter Parker who was bitten by a radioactive spider, there exists a Petra Parker who was stung by a radioactive honey bee, becoming the heroine: The Heroic Honey-Bee!

Previous Thread: https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/130325533/
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>>130620127
here's a rundown of the rules of this universe:
>Only Peter Parker and his costumed friends and enemies (be them hero or villain) are changed, except for Dr. Connors, because it's funny
>Non-costumed folks (i.e. JJJ, Aunt May and Uncle Ben, MJ, Gwen Stacy, Harry, etc.) are unchanged
>The outside Marvel Universe (Avengers, F4, X-men, Daredevil and Hell's Kitchen group) are unchanged
>Swaps are more than just gender, but also in concept (i.e. Instead of a proficient illusionist, we have an incompetent witch. Instead of a villain themed to an aquatic creature with multiple limbs, we have a villain themed to a land animal with multiple legs, etc.)
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>>130620135
Here are the mappings for those that are changed:
>Spider-man ->Honey-Bee
>Scarlet Spider ->Bumblebee
>Green Goblin -> Purple Pixie
>Doc Ock -> The Centipede
>Mysterio ->Dazzla (formerly Mysteri and Enigma)
>Chameleon and a bit of Screwball -> Toxic
>The Vulture -> Black Swan
>Rhino -> The Doe
>Shocker -> Quake
>Silver Sable -> Bronze Bear
>Black Cat -> Red Fox
>Grizzly -> The Ring Leader
>Kraven the Hunter -> Saeoris Craven: The Bug Catcher (name pending)
>Hobgoblin -> Red Cap
>Venom (and a bit of Scorpion) -> Dragonfly
>Carnage -> Tarantula Hawk
>Kaine -> Lilith
>Scorpion -> Hornet
>Molten Man -> Maddie Raxton (no super villain name)
>Beetle -> Mantis
>White Rabbit -> Cheshire
>Mr. Negative -> Alternates between Miss Positive and Mistress Negative
>Prowler -> The Lurker
>Morbius -> Ghulia the Living Mummy
>Spot -> The Line
>Overdrive -> Override
>Tombstone -> Sculpture (or Monolith)
>Silk -> Drone
>Electro -> Radia
>Sand-man ->Glass Lass
>Hydro-man -> Flamme Fatale
>Stegron->Pteryx
>The Wall -> The Door
>Jack O’Lantern -> Spring heeled Jill
>Tinker -> Consumer
>Carrion -> Burgeon
>Spider-Slayer -> Bee Keepers
>Swarm -> Nectar (Formerly Nazi/HYDRA spider plush)
>Living Brain -> Undead Heart
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>>130620149
And the story arcs we already have adaptations of:
>Origin Story
>Clone Saga
>Superior
>Sinister Six...kind of
>Petra/Honey-Bee Mutation arc
>Pteryx Reverse Evolution arc
>Maximum Carnage
and original arcs:
>Petra and Peter swap bodies
>Quinn's depression arc, leading to her redemption and becoming an ally
>Quinn accidentally unleashes a horde of Yokai on NYC
>Toxic finds out her birth father is Dr. Doom
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>>130620297
I think we should try and hammer out the timeline this thread. Here's what I got so far, feel free to suggest changes!
Timeline:
>Petra's origin, Hired by Bugle
>First encounters
>Quake's malfunction
>Centipede's Sinister Six
>Quinn Depression and Redemption Arc
>Toxic's heritage
>Civil War starts
>Tony unveils clones
>Civil War Ends
>Clone Saga
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>>130620127
>>130620135
Wait a second? Is this the story where Spiderman almost drowned?
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>>130620127
>>130620135
>>130620149
>those pics
Well now I'm laughing and aroused
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Dumping art from the last thread in the mean time
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>>130620608
Consumer (name pending), the counterpart of the Tinkerer
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>>130620642
The Messenger of Heaven! Hanii-Bii!
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>>130620663
Derailing the dump for a bit to throw in a bit of a suggestion. The Shin Kamen Rider teaser dropped, and one of the shots was the bee Kaijin helmet! Think we can adapt this into either HaniiBii's design or Iron Bee?
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Back to the dump. Mantis concepts!
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Neat-o.
Here's Black Swan.
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>>130620809
Looks great!

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>>130620989
And that's the end of the dump!
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>>130620318
Yeah, it's the Honey-Bee verse version of it

>>130620315
wrt the timeline, we should think about whether the Frenemies become, well, Frenemies before or after Civil war. I think once we figure that out, things will fall into place
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>>130620315
What about Yokai night
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>>130620127
BEES!!!
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>>130621105
>wrt the timeline, we should think about whether the Frenemies become, well, Frenemies before or after Civil war. I think once we figure that out, things will fall into place
Well, we have to place some pieces...

Like why Maddie, Dazzla and Doe became friends with HB?

I know for Toxic the friendship began when she was taken to Latveria, and joined the squad when she came back to NY and lives at the embassy. My guess is that she's a late addition to the crew, but I don't know about the others.
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I like Jesse Drew becoming a hunky moth but Gypsy Moth stays the same and they have the whole enemy you sleep with deal.
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>>130621209
Yokai Night, I think, would be well into the career, since it's a pivotal point in Miss Positive/Mistress Negative's character development, which I feel would only work later in Petra's career

>>130621281
Maddie becomes friends with Petra because her step sister, Liz, is one of Petra's friends. Doe, I'd say would be the second member of the Frenemies, due to Petra realizing that Doe is naive and easily roped into things she doesn't want to do. Dazzla has her whole "depression and Petra's pick-me-up" thing, which redeems her, so I'd say Dazzla becomes a Frenemy after that
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>>130621281
I think Petra has big Goku energy, as in all her enemies tend to befriend her after a while.

>Doe
She's not evil or even prone to crime (being a wealthy russian heiress), just too ditzy for her own good and naive to the point where she can be conned into joining a criminal gang by someone asking politely. Which usually happens with Quake. How do they know each other, that's still something that needs to be determined.

>Dazzla
She's more of a performer and someone who wants to live a magical girl life. And it backfires, because she's very incompetent. Eventually, Quinn falls into depression because she can't achieve anything; and that's when Petra mounts a complicated scheme to make her think she's saving Earth from Dormammu's weirdo cousin, Rorkannu.

>Maddie
She's not precisely a 'friend', more of a cool older sister who hangs around with them because her sister is friends with Petra and the other girls.
She had a beef with HB after she caused Maddie to drop the Rockefeller Centre christmas tree on herself during one of her tantrums, though.
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>Yokai Night
It has to happen before Civil War. I think some anon mentioned the depowered Miss Positive was acting as psychologist for the Initiative during the War.
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>>130621412
I wouldn't necessarily call it "Goku" energy, but she is far more empathetic than Peter, which would allow her to connect more with her enemies
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>>130621547
Well, there's also the fact a good chunk of her 'core' enemies are less psychotic or homicidal than Spider-Man's. Sure, she can sympathize with Doe, Quinn, Jeanne or Maddie; and even find some respect towards Octavia's disability during the Superior arc; but there's also monsters who really want her dead (Cheshire, the Pixie, Hornet), are professionals in their craft and know they would hurt Honey-Bee if she gets in their path (Black Swan, Glass Lass) or simply forces of nature who really are malevolent (like Tarantula Hawk, Pteryx or Mistress Negative).
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>>130621739
That's true, most of Petra's Frenemies aren't really bad people, just people who end up doing bad things either by accident (Dazzla, Maddie), get roped into it because she doesn't know any better (Doe), or because she wants attention (Toxic). Agreed with all others, though
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>>130621453
Well, it doesn't have to be during the War, it could just be a recurring thing following Yokai Nights, whenever that happens. I think the real measure of when YN takes place is the involvement of the Frenemies and involvement of other heroes. Involvement of the Frenemies implies that Quinn has her redemption arc already, and involvement of other heroes implies that it's after Civil War, since they all respect Petra as a heroine
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>>130621739
Don't forget Override. That bitch be scary
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>>130622172
What gives you that impression?
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>>130622010
How old is Petra? 20-21?
So she's been HB for five years, assuming she got her powers at the same age as Peter.
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>>130622253
I'd say she'd be early 20s, yeah, but let's be real. Do comic book character ages really matter?
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>>130622215
her... eagerness to kill Petra
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>>130620802
>I'm not wearing any diamonds.
KeK
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>>130620663
A little magic and another version of her is here

>>130620809
damn good!

>>130622215
>Toxic Toxic Toxic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO-G5DVNlw4
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Bonus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTKv9JSy25Y
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>>130623848
Cute! I'll be honest, I actually prefer Magical Girl Haniibii over Toku Hero HaniiBii
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>>130623881
We need more interactions between Petra and Gwen and MJ
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>>130623920
Seconded.
We need to flesh out Gwen.
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>>130624107
Well, what do you have in mind?
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>>130622215
I imagine Override singing "Hellfire" from Disney after making a deal with Mephisto. Deal that will boost her abilities in exchange for killing Petra.

And her powers' great. She can turn simple cars into mech suits, killer drones or anything dangerous... in New York, like the city with a 24/7 car presence. Imagine that...
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>>130620127
Asking while the thread is young, are there be alt versions of Kingpin and Punisher in this universe since they first appeared with spider-man, or no?
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>>130622215
>Petra is chilling one day at home
>Suddenly, someone starts blasting Don't you forget about me outside her window
>Petra looks through the window
>Its Jeanne, holding up an mp3 player and a pair of small speakers
>Petra frowns, shakes her head and slams her window shut
>Jeanne stops her music and sighs
>Music starts behind her
>EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE AND EVERY MOVE YOU TAKE ILL BE WATCHING YOU
>Jeanne turns around slowly, shivering
>Override has the most shit-eating grin ever, as she walks through a hedge wall like the T-1000, all while blasting that song at full volume
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>>130624393
For Punisher, since he has his own titles and books, and effectively his own section of the Marvel Universe, I'm going to say no, even though he started in Spider-man. Kingpin, I have no strong thoughts either way. I know some people liked the idea that Kingpin stayed the same and ordered mercenaries after Toxic after she stole something from him, but I'm also ok with making a Bee-verse Fem!Kingpin (Maybe she's thin and has a head full of hair?)
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>>130624312
Definitely childhood friendship route for MJ
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>>130625002
So what would their interactions be like? I know we mentioned that MJ was hired by the Bugle to design Honey-Bee's outfits/uniforms, and she has a bit of jealousy towards Petra due to Petra's popularity
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>>130624530
>Learns Jeanne enrolled at Xavier's school mostly due to the clones
>Next day goes in with a mech and killer robots blasting "ALL THE OTHER KIDS WITH THEIR PUMPED UP KICKS BETTER RUN, BETTER RUN, OUTRUNNING MY GUN!"
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>>130625117
>All the mutants are freaking out because they think the institute is being set upon by Sentinels
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>>130625082
Honestly probably pretty friendly but with a bit of seething jealousy. If they were childhood friends then there would probably be a bit of prior friendship to keep them in line
Honestly I feel like we need to focus slightly on some of Petra’s flaws that are either similar or inverse to Peter. Something that might make MJ have slightly justified anger though it’s still exaggerated since Petra’s a really nice person
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>>130625156
honestly I think Override wouldn't pass an opportunity to upgrade the Sentinels if it means less rivals
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>>130625314
So what would Petra's flaws be? I know we mentioned OCD/perpetual tidying to keep herself busy as a result of the bee sting, but what negative traits would carry over from her pre-sting life?
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>>130624557
What if F!Kingpin takes a lot from the "king" bit?
A woman with an aristocratic demeanor and regal in both nature and looks, but who won't hesitate to singlehandedly destroy her rivals. Maybe while not as strong as Fisk, she's an extremely skilled fighter to the point where she gives Petra a run for her money during the first year of her superheroine career?
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>>130625565
Well, they’d probably be inverted versions of Peter’s flaws despite her being immensely nice. Though I could see her sharing Peter’s greed
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>>130625597
How about "The Empress"? You know, like criminal empire, empress, etc.? Obviously, she'd be thin and hot instead of fat and bald. Maybe uses her sex appeal to convince people to do what she wants?
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>>130625646
I don't see her being as antisocial as OG Peter was. Maybe her own version of this, is developing a mild "smarter than thou" complex a la Daria Morgendorffer and a slight disdain for popular girls?
This of course, begins to go away after she becomes Honey-Bee and gets her own circle of friends.
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>>130625866
>and a slight disdain for popular girls?
Oh how Toxic must have left a bad taste during their first encounters... which fits well with her letting Doom drag Jeanne into Latveria
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>>130625866
Yeah, I could see that happening
It could be a fun inversion from hating the popular to realizing she’s become popular and the people she used to hold distain fit are actually pretty nice
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>>130625928
Maybe it's Gwen who actually starts changing Petra's perception of popular girls?
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>>130625921
>>130625866

I'd like to think Petra was super conscious about her body during her first ventures into heroics, especially after she notices people in social media really like to mention her butt and legs. And thus REALLY hates the idea of being photographed or recorded at first.

Regarding her initial encounters with Toxic...
I think there was an idea about the fluff in Petra's costume carrying a self-defense pollen that causes irritation and allergy, as a way to compensate for her lack of h2h fighting skills.
Then it goes like this:
>Toxic harasses Honey-Bee, to the point where she kisses her as part of her shock/prank streaming tactics
>This makes Petra super mad, since she's not used to people breaking her personal boundaries, let alone being kissed by a girl she might consider a dumb Stacy
>Petra yells "Sneeze!", which triggers the mechanism that sprays pollen from her costume
>Toxic goes down, sneezing and crying as if someone had given her a facefull of mace spray
>Honey-Bee is incredibly angry, and goes through a massive effort to avoid punching Toxic once she's down
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>>130626157
That could be fun. Maybe she at first feels a bit betrayed from a childhood friend in MJ becoming a “Stacy” but then once Gwen starts warming up to her after being saved she starts to warm up to them
>>130626185
Honestly I could see Petra being a bit standoffish from her shyness but then coming out of her shell and becoming much more lovable from some encouragement

Also Gwen definitely calls her Pet as a nickname because it annoys her
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>>130626457
Gwen being both Petra's and MJ's confidants as they vent about the other's popularity would be pretty funny
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>>130626185
Petra looks down on the frog themed villain, helplessly coughing and sneezing on the ground.
>Honestly I want to make you pay for that kiss!… but I’m not one to kick a girl when she’s down.
She then uses one of her honeybomb to restrain Toxic’s hands.
>And I’m pretty sure lots of gals will want you to give them some sugar in jail, Sneezy.
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>>130627491
Incredible. love the eyes and hair
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>>130620127
You forgot The Line concepts. Still need to draw Ghulia too
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>>130627491
Amazingly cute!
>>130627564
You can’t stop the line
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>>130627760
Have we decided on a finalized design? It's 1 or 2 for me, but I know there were some people in the previous thread who liked 3
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>>130628077
I like the one on the right. Less is more
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Gwen heavily influences Petra’s fashion choices
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>>130628784
I can see a non-hero scenario where Gwen, MJ, and Petra are in a department store, and they keep trying to throw Petra in different outfits, and Petra's just getting exhausted
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>>130627760
Honestly I like left the most
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>>130620149
>>Jack O’Lantern -> Spring heeled Jill
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Is this one of those original /co/ superheroes?
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>>130629120
Yeah, pretty much. There's ties to the Marvel universe where her and her rogues are just Spidey and his rogues but gender-swapped, but she's essentially an OC
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>>130628842
Could be fun. Also reminds me of the time Gwen was trying to fix up Quinn’s fashion style
Also might be fun if Petra’s other friends could occasionally do some super stuff to show the two lives bleeding together like with Gwen in the Iron Bee suit or Liz using Vulture gear
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>>130628784
For some reason, I'm imagining pre-sting Petra as a plain Jane like Judy Greer in Jawbreaker; considering pre-spider bite Peter looked like an absolute nerd.
Then I guess Gwen or Mary Jane give her a complete makeover and she starts looking real pretty.
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>>130629188
Probably pretty accurate. I could also see JJJ telling her to clean up a bit to be the mascot and then hiring MJ to help out
I don’t know why but I’m still slightly attached to the idea of Petra still using glasses to help deal with ultraviolet vision
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>>130629257
I imagine Petra has more insect-like characteristics than Peter.
Alcohol makes her aggressive, vinegar gets her very sick, she's super weak to cold, smoke messes with her navigation skills while flying, probably has to eat unholy amounts of sugary foods and is even capable of producing her own honey (which she doesn't like to do, because it's roughly her equivalent of throwing up).
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>>130629077
Looks great!

>>130629169
Yeah, Gwen gets the Iron Bee suit on occasion, Liz gets the flight pack. Does MJ make her own version of the Bee-suit?

>>130629188
>>130629257
Gwen and MJ both give Petra a makeover (at different times, respectively), and are constantly at odds with each other with regards to Petra's style
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>>130620787
Who are this mantisess and what are they based off?
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>>130629768
I think MJ might be something similar to Black Cat. Plus she also has that kitsune stuck in either a necklace or ring
Also it would be really fun to see a hapless Petra struggling as she’s dragged between Gwen, MJ, and Jeanne trying to decide what she wears
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>>130630119
The Mantises are based on how there are numerous different Beetles in the Spider-man rogues, but instead of the Beetles acting independently, it's a Highlander thing where each Mantis is fighting each other for the right to use the name (and possibly defeat Honey-Bee)
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>>130630128
>Also it would be really fun to see a hapless Petra struggling as she’s dragged between Gwen, MJ, and Jeanne trying to decide what she wears
It would be a montage of Petra getting dragged every which way in a mall, trying on different fashions, from geek chic to e-thot to goth etc, and Gwen, MJ, and Jeanne arguing which Petra should take. Maybe throw in some other fan-servicy outfits (Maid outfit, Bunny girl, qipao), for good measure
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>>130631053
>>130630128
>Bunnygirl Petra
>Maid Petra
Drawfags...please...
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>>130631053
>>130631990
All the fan-service outfits were Jeanne's idea, while all the actual fashion styles were Gwen's and MJ's idea. Except for the Hot Topic wannabe Punk/Goth/Alt/Scene girl outfit. That was also Jeanne's idea
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>>130631990
Remember, none of her friends would complain because everyone around Petra’s age who’s friends with her (except the clones and Cid) has at least a slight crush on her with Human Torch and Toxic being the most in love
If anything they’d encourage it
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>>130629755
Wait so she produces honey? why would she and what does she do with it?
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>>130630271
I really don't remember all those beetles.
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>>130632823
It's like royal jelly. Purple Pixie wants the royal jelly that Petra produces because it MIGHT have deaging properties, but the process in which Petra produces it is disgusting, and she has no intention of being an Oscorp lab rat
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>>130632983
Yeah exactly this. It also has healing properties, so theoretically Petra could heal anyone if she was willing to eat a bunch of sugar and let it ferment inside if her
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>>130632875
>Abner Jenkins - Beetle Number 1; Ex-mechanic
>Leila Davis - Beetle Number 2; reformed villain
>Joaquim Robichaux, Elizabeth Vaughn, Gary Quinn - Beetles 3-5; college students that stole the Beetle suits during Civil War
>Janice Lincoln - Beetle Number 6; Tombstone's daughter
Now we don't have to stick to the lore, we could just take the college student idea, and have it be a college club thing that spiraled out of control as each student tries to make their own Mantis suit or whatever.
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>>130620149
>it was at this moment that Toxic realized… she liked girls
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>>130634864
>I like bee butts and I can not lie
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>>130634878
What do you think it feels like when Miss Positive fills you with positive energy? Beyond the temporary light powers of course
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>>130633153
Petra is not the brown widow, she doesn't have to be morphologically correct and puke the honey. She could sweat it instead.
I don't ever dare to think in the other two options.
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>>130635115
No, but having healing honey on hand is way too convenient, so making it so that Petra doesn't want to use it because it's gross is a good way to circumvent it.
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>>130635079
I'd imagine it makes you feel warm, happy, and giddy, and that you could accomplish anything and that everything will be okay
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>>130635324
Indeed. It also gives Petra some time to escape whenever she’s captured by a villain as they need to give her time to actually produce the honey in her stomach
>>130635378
I like to imagine she sometimes gives these powers to children for brief periods of time, allowing them to just fly around for a bit and maybe play catch with a star ball or create light shields to bounce it around
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>>130635557
Well, remember, one of the limitations we outlined in the previous thread is that, for every second she uses her powers as Miss Positive, Mistress Negative will take over her body for an equivalent amount of time...
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>>130635926
Good point. My guess is that this was probably something she used to do before she found out about the time limitations and how she was giving Negative more time
Honestly she probably spends quite a bit of time now trying to reform Negative to resolve the issue
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>>130636179
I think, after the events of Yokai Nights, everyone realized that you can't really "reform" Negative so much as suppress and seal it away
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So how exactly does Petra interact with some of the newer Marvel girls (plus Squirrel Girl) and how has this universe changed them since a previous thread mentioned them as having been “all put through the cute filter”
I’d imagine America is more like her movie counterpart, and Gwenpool is probably a bit confused
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>>130635115
>>130635324
>During one of their days out, the girls begin to talk about the downsides to their powers
>Petra casually says she actually produces honey, but its something super gross and she hates to do it
>Uh oh
>Petra turns slowly, and sees that while most of her friends are grossed out by the idea, Jeanne has the biggest, craziest smile ever
>"Hooowwww?" Jeanne asks, slyly
>Petra tries to change the subject, but Jeanne pesters her for the following days because she's thinking lewd things
>Days turn to weeks
>One day, Petra is fed up and shows at Jeanne's place with a large bag of marshmallows in hand
>"FINE! YOU WANT HONEY? THIS IS HOW YOU GET HONEY!"
>proceeds to eat the marshmallows
>Petra starts rubbing her cheeks with her hands, gargles some water, does a dumbass wiggle dance, shakes her head vigorously, makes a buzzing sound and finally produces a ball of semi-solid honey from her mouth, similar in size to a gobstopper
>Jeanne is completely mindfucked and disappointed at the same time
>She asks Petra what the hell just happened
>Petra shrugs
>"I don't know, It just happens, okay?! It's gross!"
>Jeanne's face after that
>Yes, Petra told her she couldn't keep the honey wad
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>>130636949
Yes.
Negative is an actual creature made out of darkness and evil. There's no reforming that, no matter what. The best possible outcome would be try to exorcize her from Martina's body and even then, the process could end up killing her. And worse, the Negative entity could just jump into a new host.
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Alright that's it. I'm taking a crack at Ghulia. What design elements should I strive/avoid, and what nice touches should instill the science aspect of it? Hair?
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I think the only concept we had is this, and she keeps the Morbius hairdo.
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>>130637947
There was this outfit design, too
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>>130637058
Well, I don't know about Petra, but I do know it was pitched that one of the clones, Patty, becomes friends with Squirrel Girl, and maybe one of the other clones joins the Champions with Kamala?
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>>130638005
So I tried to blend "mummy" as much as I could with real world science to make the wrappings a containment suit. I thought the bracelets could have a H20 feeding tube to a hydration regulator on her chest, or "scarab". It's mixing ornate with function. Most of this is tweaking a template, I'm not an artist. You'll have to finger out the hair and face for the final, real proof of concept piece. Not sure how many wrappings should be on the face either. Hopefully a based drawanon can take my pic and the first proof of concept face pic and make something cool.

What do you think?
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>>130638636
I like it so far. I really like it. Honestly Ghulia has always felt a bit like a Scooby Doo villain in that I imagine her hiding her monsterous nature most of the time and playing up the mummy aspects when on the hunt so people will think she’s an actual supernatural being and not suspect her as the true culprit
Maybe her and Pixie could workshop some blame avoiding lore together
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>>130638636
This is good. Mummy-looking and yet science-based.

>>130638760
What if Pixie starts recruiting the most monstrous-looking villains to form HB-earth's equivalent of the Goblin Nation? We mentioned before that she employs Red Cap, Spring-Heeled Jill, the Banshee that Carlie Cooper will end transforming into, and Male!Menace (which still hasn't been proposed, but I think it should be a Nuckelavee, a troll or a Greenknight to keep up with the fairy aspect as opposed to goblins).
It'd be interesting to see Pixie build up a power base by recruiting 'monsters' like Ghulia, Hornet, Pteryx, Doppelganger and whatever we do with Demogoblin or Shriek.
BTW, have we done Puma already? Because Puma would be nice as the werewolf standby.
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>>130638760
In my head Ghulia has always been a fighter. She's been born with a horrible skin condition, frail, easy to hurt. With a body built like paper, flaky and dry, she's never been the popular girl or any girl of notice. That's how she turned to science, and her original desire to cure herself and help people like her started. When her experiment finally happened, her blessing and curse truly began. She was beautiful and strong for the first time in her life, and yet everything she has ever wanted keeps slipping through her fingers like sand. With the ultimatum of herself or everyone else, she chose to be happy, which unfortunately is deadly to anyone who gets in her way. Ghulia is a woman who won't give up her new success easily. Though she has made wealth and admiration in social circles via skin care products, she will turn into a monster to prey upon the helpless if it means keeping up the act. One minute she's gloating at Honey Bee with her superiority, the next minute she's a rage filled monster contorting herself like a snake and clinging to walls. She may even believe Honey Bee's DNA might hold the answer to a more permanent solution too
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>>130638953
I'd really, really pay a lot for a Midnight Sons book with Ghulia in it, or a story where she interacts with Moon Knight. Amazing job with that description, anon.
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>>130638936
Puma has not been used yet, so I’m totally fine with a werewolf
>>130638953
Amazing. This is a perfect illustration of how the Honey-Bee universe works. Those who choose the path of helping others will naturally become beautiful and successful while those who seek beauty or wealth via harming others will become monsters over time
>>130639116
It’d be nice to see Moon Knight call her out as a fake mummy
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>>130625863
>Empress
Yes to your idea, anon. Sounds good. And might even explain why she surrounds herself with big, powerful enforcers like the Door, Bullseye or Typhoid Mary.
She'd call the Door her "champion", and refer ro her inner circle of subordinates as knights because she's way too delusional with grandeur and must maintain this aspect of nobility at all costs. Maybe she's this way because she's actually the last member of a very obscure noble house, and is obsessed with returning it to glory.
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>>130635324
Well there is also this option.
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>>130639386
>tell me Honey-Bee, do you have parents
>no, they’re… gone. I live with my aunt and uncle. I probably shouldn’t have said that
>no no, it is perfectly fine. I appreciate honesty in my court. So, what you’re saying is you do not currently have a mother
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>>130639116
>>130639348
I'm more of a writer than an artist as you can see. I've contributed in threads like these and other projects like it with generally favorable feedback, and thank you for your kind words. I can write simple greentexts too if you like
>Honey Bee and Ghulia fighting in a lab. Ghulia has broken in to steal a serum that may help delay her rapid decay and maybe even remove the need for her status sarcophagus.
>By this point in the battle, Ghulia has become a bit more feral, which Honey Bee is using her own anger to keep the upper hand
>"Not looking so good, Ghulie! Why don't we take a time out and just let me help you for a change?"
>*HISS*!
>"Okay I tried!"
>Knowing her stingers won't work on Ghulia, HB instead opts for her honey bomb to stick Ghulia to a wall for restraint. The bomb goes off, sticking Ghulia to a ceiling, but unfortunately the impact cracks the ceiling causing Ghulia and the part she stuck to to crumble to the floor
>"OOF! I am SO sorry about that! I'm still tinkering with the force on-"
>Ghulia scuttles like a spider, her torso twisting and cracking back into place as she stands up, loudly making SNAP noises as bones reset
>"Oh that is just wrong..."
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>>130639553
>The Empress has a son around Petra's age
>she keeps trying to get Honey-Bee to marry him at all costs
>"the bloodline must continue with the best breeding stock"
>Petra no longer enjoys playing the Sims or Crusader Kings after that
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>>130639785
>on one side Petra’s love life is secretly being manipulated by Reed and Doom as a game of 4D Chess
>on the other side random heroes and villains are trying to force her into the family
It honestly feels like a hilarious deconstruction of those “all these hot and rich people love me” YA novels. Like Petra got that wish but the monkey’s paw decided on the families
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>>130639975
I blame Quinn for this
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>>130639975
Oh, boy. Honey-Bee comics definitely would read like an inverse Twilight, especially with guys like Johnny Storm, Jesse Drew and Drone around.
I wonder who would be able to write and make them justice. Probably Tom DeFalco, Spider-Girl's life was crazy AF sometimes. And I definitely see Leah Williams writing some super thirsty miniseries with Toxic.
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>>130640093
I’m hoping someone eventually draws another Honey-Bee cover showing all of her love interests presenting her with gifts and flowers with her having a thought bubble saying “I wish I could date them but their families are nuts”
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>Honey Bee has found Ghulia's warehouse lab, and is currently fighting her way through the unfortunate husks puppets created from her feeding
>Honey Bee punches each one in the face, and they explode like bags of sand
>"Ew ew ew ew ew EW!!!! *COUGH* oh *COUGH* *COUGH*! Oh sweet wheatcakes I breathed that last guy in. Seriously, Ghulie, get regular goons like a normal bad guy! This is just so wrong. I feel like I'm adding insult to mortal injury here!"
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>>130640198
I lowkey want to see an alternate version of this picture with Jeanne in a princess dress to the right of Doom.
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>>130639633
>>130640235
Nice work! It’s a shame Petra has to deal with the creepiest creeps to balance out her frenemies
>>130640273
Honestly Toxic’s domain on Doom’s Battleworld was a pretty nice place to live with Petra as her wife and her friends in positions of power. Even if she snatched up most female heroes her age to become her servants
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>Petra's birthday is coming around.
>Trouble is brewing, villains are plotting
>Jeane manages to convince Doom to take time out of his day to ensure Petra's Bday goes smoothly
>By stopping the villains aiming to ruin it and bringing the fear of DOOM to the crooks of new york city
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>a version of America Chavez more similar to her movie counterpart exists in Honey-Bee’s universe though she obviously didn’t originate there
>Petra was the first one to interview her early in her hero career
>during the live interview, Meri said her classic holy menstruation line on live tv and was turned into a meme within hours
>tfw she blames Honey-Bee
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>>130640588
>She teams up with janet to get revenge
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>>130640706
Janet, America, and Earthquake! Aka the you did it to yourself trio
All three target the lovely Honey-Bee because she was unfortunately nearby when they made a massive fuck up
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>>130627760
3/Right.
Also random greentext
>Honey Bee is stuck in the middle of a complex net of Power Paths as The Line giggles her way to safety.
>She gingerly creeps and limbos her way out
>"Easy.....Easy..."
>Her leg accidentally catches one, and she is unwillingly transported into a brick wall
>"Ow.....that really crosses the line!......I don't think that would be funny even if she were still here.....ow...this still hurts"
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>>130640588
I definitely want to see Petra interact with the clusterfuck that is the Pym family.
>While Janet no longer hates her guts as much as she did in the beginning, she still feels upstaged by a more popular, insect heroine around
>Much to her chagrin, Hank ABSOLUTELY loves Petra like a daughter, because they're complete science dorks
>Things complicate when Nadia shows up, >Nadia wonders if she should act as an enemy to her, since bees and wasps hate each other
>Hank tells her the whole 'insect' theme is not something that should be obeyed to a 100% accuracy
>Nadia goes full science sister with Petra, even trying to recruit her into the GIRL labs thingy
>Petra has to keep Nadia away from trouble when they hang around, and even save her when she tries to "talk some sense into her dumb brother"
>Her dumb brother being Ultron, of course
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>Petra is looking over some video footage when Gwen walks over
>hey Pet, whatcha doing?
>trying to remove the subliminal messages from Toxic’s stream because I actually like this game
>the regular ones that tell people to pay attention to her, buy her merch, and beat up Overdrive? Or the ultraviolet ones that tell you to love and marry her?
>I really don’t know anymore
>the two stand there in silence for a moment
>why were you watching her streams
>because the subliminals are effective. That’s why I’m removing them
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>>130640943
>tfw Petra sometimes visits GIRL labs when she’s not busy with personal or Bugle stuff
>her OCD always makes her tidy up the place and micromanage everything while she’s there
>she always increases the efficiency of the lab when she visits and people there jokingly nickname her the Queen Bee of GIRL
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>Gwenpool has a love/hate relationship with Honey-Bee
>She's aware of Petra's origin in a 4chan thread and how waifuesque the universe is in comparison to others
>But also realized that in a cute universe full of cute girls, she's likely drawn by Gurihiru
>And thus, she can exist indefinitely without worring about cancellation or end turned into cannon fodder
>Also, she likes Batroc having a family in this universe and her supporting cast is safe, because it tends to intersect with Honey-Bee's, especially since Quinn hangs around a lot with the Terrible Eye
>And yes, she's aware Quinn looks like her, but purple
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>>130641522
I feel like Gwenpool would like the Honey-Bee universe on those ways, but also worry that she may be slightly nerfed in order to justify cuteness and dragged into random harem anime and girl show plotlines as well as given a minor crush on Petra just like every other supporting female character
She’s also very aware of how many costumes and outfits she’s likely to be shoved into, and has preemptively numbed herself to it in preparation
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>It's another "The Gang live in the same house" episode
>Dazzla thinks it would be funny to lock Ghulia out of her room, forcing her to sleep on the couch
>Dazzla enters the bathroom the next morning, walking in on a now dehydrated Ghulia who was deprived of her status sarcophagus
>"GET. OUT!!!!!!!!"
>Dazzla slams the door, as a groggy Toxic walks down the hallway.
>"Yo Daz, sleep okay?"
>"Yes and I may never sleep again out of pure terror...."
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>Petra eventually gets tired of America using portals to help Janet mess with her
>goes to Hank to ask for help in finding a solution without being too harsh to either one
>Hank eventually gets an idea from Petra’s ramblings and uses a less sentient Ultron bot to forge a letter in America’s handwriting along with a resume
>Meri disappears later that night and soon Bronze Bear has added a Blue Ranger to his team

>Glass Lass: they really think you wanted this. So don’t forget you’re here forever
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>>130642008
>everyone wakes up after the house is rocked
>Dazzla and Toxic run in circles, screaming "Earthquake! Earthquake!" and panicking
>Earthquake gets out of the kitchen, wearing a pineapple pajama and holding a cup of coffee in her hand
>"It's not an earthquake, you morons", she says
>Dazzla and Toxic stare at each other in confusion
>"Doe saw Ghulia"
>A whole side of the house is gone
>There's a perfectly Doe-shaped hole in the hedges outside
>The street beyond looks as if the Hulk had a bad day, with police sirens blaring and helicopters flying around
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>>130620127
bro, these 4chan projects always amaze me
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>>130642436
Me too. I think they’re always the best when it’s a total labor of love
Of course, that love is always likely to increase when the primary focus is cute girls doing cute things
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>>130641039
I love the subliminal messages, and can’t help but think some of them are just memes

Also would she incite violence against Override, considering she’s her #1 simp? Her biggest cashcow?

>>130642335
>Doe’s face seconds before rampage
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>>130620663
>>130623848
I really dig the toku inspired design, even if I think the honey bee version of japanese spider man should be a magical girl.
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>>130642704
Yeah there’s definitely a few memes and surrender to Dooms in there but honestly I do think Toxic would eventually try to get rid of Override. Even if she is a cash cow, she’s still a massive threat to Jeanne’s personal safety and ti her friends. Better to get rid of that thing than be sorry later
also the ultraviolet subliminals definitely include clothing suggestions
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>>130642757
Why not both?
There's a bee who lives in Japan and goes full magical girl. There's the sentai bee who goes on to serve under Bronze Bear's ragtag crew of power rangers.
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>>130621307
Captain Marvel v Gypsy Moth for Jesse's hand in marriage.
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>>130642994
I’d be funny that Jeanne hires editors for her vids, one of them works for Doom and puts subliminal propaganda, while others memes, ships and more with their work. Toxic could ask Petra to check up one of her editors, since he’s been acting weird ever since he put some anti-Override jokes. Turns out he’s been kidnapped/murdered/never existed and Override took over… gathering the raws of the vids for some possible nefarious purpose.

>>130642704
>Doe getting spooked
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>>130643199
Yeah, Override is pretty scary, though she’s probably just gathering the clips for personal pleasure

Also even though she has editors, I think Toxic probably does all of the ultraviolet subliminals herself with mostly wholesome suggestions just telling Petra to love her, marry her, keep watching her videos, watch movies with her, invite her over, cuddle with her, etc
though she may learn to regret the suggestion of cuddling during Petra’s very clingy winter months
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>>130643199
It'd be fun if HB-earth's Latveria has a propaganda program that is extremely ridiculous, kinda like what the Pottsylvanians try to do in the Rocky and Bullwinkle movie; and a good chunk of it relies on Toxic's internet presence.
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>>130620620
Why does she give me the impression of being someone who’s less actually malicious and more so annoying and a bit lonely
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>>130620620
Creator of Consumer here

Can I suggest the name GADGETRIX instead?

Here's my version of Backstory:
>Full name: Fionn Elizabeth Mason
>Daughter of an Infamous Military Mogul family
>Super Rich AF
>13 years old and already owns 4 Robotics Factories
>Genius level Intellect
>yet Super Lazy
>can buy almost anything due to comically wealthy family
>this made her feel intense boredom
>casually spends millions on buying military grade robots for collection
>envious to costumed heroes/villains on how they got as much freedom to do their thing
>as a way to escape boredom, she secretly acts as a villain to all costumed people in the city using her war robots

>and she hates bees

I'll draw another design later
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>>130646089
I like the name and I really like the character and background
Could be interesting to see how Petra reacts once she realizes she’s been fighting a kid
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>>130647784
I like to think that Petra’s wings and general nature band it hard for her to hide her emotions so it’s obvious when she likes someone
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Snow Queen but warm heart
Has Maddie ever given Petra some good life advice?
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>>130630119
Only Clubs based on the original Beetle\Abner Jenkins. The rest is just a playing with different types of mantises because of a Highlander thing >>130630271
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>>130648561
Oh yeah I can see that. Personally I’d love to develop hearts the most cause she’s my favorite, even if clubs us must likely to become heroic
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>>130635324

You know, Peter just learned to bake his web fluid in the continuities where he doesn't produce it.

Can't Petra just, I dunno, have an intuitive knowledge of making medicine based out of honey, because she got stung by an ultraviolet bee or something?
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>>130620127
coomers deserve a rope
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>>130629077
Excellent job!
This shade of red suits her and I love the face, spooky
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>>130650203
Do you know who else deserves a rope?
MY MOM!
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need more critter
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I have accumulated many Powergirl JL8 screenshot so they could be edited into Doe… but I’m wondering if it is a fruitless endeavour
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>>130651747
I think it's just fun

>when anons said you're not the best girl, at the end of the last thread
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>>130642335
>Ghulia is sobbing on the couch
>Quake scooches next to her, tries to do the hover hand because she really doesn't want to touch Ghulia in her dehydrated horror movie state
>"Heeeeyyy you? It's okay, Doe just....hasn't seen your...."condition" yet. She'll be fine, and you will too....(I think?)"
>*SNIFF* *WAIL* "I-I-I try so hard to be strong a-a-and I tell m-myself I'm okay but I look in the mirror s-sometimes.....and then she j-just...." *Balling her eyes out and holding onto Quake*
>Quake is uncomfortable with the mummy hugging, looking around the room for help as Dazzla and Toxic creep there way out of the room.
>"IM A MONSTERRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrr!!!!...."
>"N-No you're not! Toxic is more of a monster than you given how she acts around here...."
>"I heard that, bitch!"
>".....Anyway. Do you want me to get you some tissues to dry your face?"
>Ghulia looks up, her monster face doesn't have tears at all
>"I CANT CRY BECAUSE OF MY CONDITIONnnnnWAAAHAHAAAAAA!!!"
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>>130652210
I love these stories like you wouldn't believe
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>>130652568
>Doe's been watching this entire time
>Ghulia feels a hug around her torso
>"IMMMMM SOWWWEEEEE!!!!"
>The two of them keep crying and hugging as Quake just uses this as an opportunity to bolt out of the room.
>Doe's comical anime tears hydrate Ghulia enough to look pretty again
And yes I just made a short story out of the ATHF "Love Mummy". Also bonus shorter story:
>Ghulia and Doe are in the kitchen. Ghulia is applying a cleansing face mask on Doe's face to encourage softness and complexion
>Winter Woman walks in and freaks out
>"AAAAAAAAAHHH!! GHULIA INFECTED DOE!"
>Runs out of the room
>Ghulia pats her on the head to reassure she will look great once its done
>Black Swan bursts into the room
>"MAKE ME LOOK YOUNGER TOO!"
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Well looking at pics to hope some anon edit them into Doe, I finished the whole 270 chapters of JL8… and now I’m stuck waiting for more pages to come out
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>I’m going to marry Petra Parker with her aunt and uncle’s blessing, and there’s nothing you can do to stop me!
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>>130653312
>"Not if I have any to say about it, you spoiled silver spoon princess"
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>It's game night at the Sinister Condo
>Ghulia's turn to choose a game
>"TWISTER!"
>Bends backward to show off a simple "Right Hand Green"
>"C'mon that's bullshit!"
>"So that's why she gets those fan letters...."
>"My turn!"
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>alright everyone, listen up, whatever we do we cannot allow Petra to be successfully seduced by Jeanne
>we cannot allow Doom to win
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>>130652755
https://files.catbox.moe/wmi5ek.png
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>>130653974
Bronze Bear really has won at life huh? but what does he look like under the helmet. Doe knows but I’d like to too
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>>130654153
Maybe like kamen rider beast/ Kosuke nitoh?
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Any more ideas for Flora/Agent Dragonfly?
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>>130654942
I will pitch ideas and greentexts for days if a drawfriend sketches more stuff with Ghulia, Line, Glass Lass, and we finally hammer out Lurker
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>>130654153
>>130654198
Honestly, he's probably more classic Showa era KR, like Takeshi Hongo, or something like that.

>>130655188
>if a drawfriend sketches more stuff with Ghulia, Line, Glass Lass, and we finally hammer out Lurker
While I agree that we should flesh out these characters more, ultimately, drawfriends will take on the characters they're interested in drawing, so if they're not interested in any of the characters listed, we're kind of at an impasse
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>>130655188
>Glass Lass
Haven't we decided that she will be in her second outfit? Like here >>130624934
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>>130656677
Nice digits

Also, yeah, I think we committed to the second design for Glass Lass, but it doesn't hurt to have more!
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>>130656782
Indeed. She’s also gotta have that one set of animal armor from Bear
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>>130657348
What animal should she be based off of?
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>>130657390
Definitely something sand based with ears. I’m to suggest either a meerkat or an armadillo
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>>130656677
>>130656782
I meant more art in general, we've nailed her look
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>It's the aftermath of a huge party at The Sinister Condo.
>The roommates are just now waking up one by one, observing the damage
>"Guh....Look at this place. There's stains on the wall, the TV is in the pool, and there's broken glass everywhere. Were we just smashing beer bottles on the floor?"
>Suddenly all of the broken glass on the ground vibrates, and forms into a human shape. It wasn't discarded beer bottles, but Glass Lass passed out on the floor
>"Oooo.....my head. What time is it, man?"
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>>130657625
How about a porcupine or hedgehog, because the shards of glass her body's made of juts out like spines?
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>>130658356
Porcupine sounds good. Though a hedgehog just lends itself to HB making constant Sonic jokes
Also the armor should have slug slits in it that can be opened and closed to allow for the glass to come through
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>>130657390
last time she was Porcupine, but it didn't go well
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>>130658415
>>130658636
So that's a no-go on Porcupine...so...Hedgehog it is? She doesn't have to be blue, so Sonic comparisons need not happen
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>slow conditioning from Toxic’s various chemicals, subliminals, and interactions have slowly whittled down Petra’s worry about sexier costumes
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>>130651747
https://files.catbox.moe/x2q8my.png
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>>130659275
I feel like that's going too far into fetish territory, and making Toxic fall in love with Petra was a mistake
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>>130659363
Absolutely adorable! Keep up the good work if you feel like it
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>>130653833
I don't think that's going to be much of a problem, Reed...
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>>130660222
Trips of truth! Though I’m pretty sure Drone just wants to be left alone
He wants someone who likes him for himself without his powers and he’s scared of what happens if Petra has sex with him
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>>130659791
When I introduced the crush for Petra, it was more of an unrequited love feeding into my misery porn tendency. Like she could get a win once or twice from time to time, but she’ll never get the girl. She’s Johnny’s. It kind of snowballed from there.
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>>130660415
>Synthesize Bee pheromones
>Spray them on Johnny
>???
>Profit

Sometimes, I wonder if people forget that PetraxJohnny is and always will be endgame
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>>130660784
Yeah, I get that, but I feel like people are just using ToxicxPetra to selfinsert or as an excuse to be total coombrains, when they should be reeling it back a bit
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>>130660816
Yeah I agree. Either way. I do think that Toxic should get an endgame ship for herself
She should eventually get a girl who will appreciate her (not Override) so that she can actually be happy in life
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>>130660816
Quite sure it’s not just a feeling

>>130660843
We could focus all the coom energy on Override tho… but I guess anons ain’t into the rapey mad tits when she’s inside a cutesy universe
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>>130660955
I think what attracts anons to Toxic is the fact that she actually has limits and her specific goal. Toxic doesn’t want to fuck Petra, or enslave Petra, or fundamentally change or corrupt her in some way, Jeanne wants to marry Petra plain and simple
And because of that, she never goes too far to avoid possibly jeopardizing that future
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>Jeanne Von Doom and America Chavez sitting together on a wall feeling depressed as they watch Petra and Kate interact, knowing that both will forever be out of their reach
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>>130661093
>Meanwhile picrel as Deadpool/Gwenpool/Red Fox/Anyone really

>>130661012
True that
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>>130659869
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>>130662022
These edits are cute!
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Death(?) of Gwen Stacy?
>Honey-Bee vs Pixie on the bridge, Gwen captured
>she goes over the edge as in canon
>Petra throws a honey bomb to save her
>it works, but her head is submerged in the hardened honey and she can’t breathe
>Petra would usually fix that, but Pixie won’t give her the chance
>everyone there is conscious of the time, Gwen and Petra frantic while Pixie aglow with sadistic glee
>Pixie defeated
>Petra digs Gwen out
>it’s been 5-10 minutes since her last breath and the lack of oxygen has caused severe brain damage
>Gwen in a vegetative state
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>>130662506
Heyyy...wait a minute...Petra is supposed to save Gwen in contrast to Peter's failure here. Having Gwen become a brain dead vegetable kind of goes against that
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>>130662584
A coma from which she could eventually wake, then?
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>>130662627
I was thinking that Gwen goes full Oracle here. Her back's still snapped, but it only renders her paraplegic. Not to mention, it would give her an excuse to be more of a tech-support character and for her to use the Iron Bee suit to give her the ability to walk again, similar to MCU Rhodey
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>>130662686
Wasn't that an idea for another thread?
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>>130662822
Maybe, but I don't see why we couldn't put that idea in this one
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>>130662822
Essentially Gwenom, yeah
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>>130662822
You know what, I kind of like this idea, with her using the Iron Bee, it’s fun and also gives various super scientists leverage over Petra
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>>130664555
Plus, with her connection with the cops through her father, she could get Petra intel that other superheroes might not have!
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>>130665042
Indeed. Also it motivates the girls (and Bear) to work harder to take down their enemies and opens up a nice little arc where Petra and the frenemies do everything they can to make Gwen happy and comfortable after the accident
Also Black Swan definitely tries to kill Pixie after this
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>>130665475
I feel like this would be early enough in Petra's career that she and Gwen are friends with Liz, but not to the point where they learn that Liz's stepmom is the Black Swan - and that the Black Swan realizes that Honey-Bee is her stepdaughter's friend
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>>130665875
Fair enough, though I do see Black Swan gaining said fury once she realizes
Also I’m pretty curious about how Gwen might use the Iron Bee suit once she gets access to it
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>>130663728
I want Petra to meet the Gwenom from that AU. It would be interesting, considering how edgy the idea was.
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>>130666193
Well, obviously Petra would probably recommend it for walking, but once Gwen realizes she could fly, she wouldn't bother with walking everywhere, to which Petra would facepalm
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>>130666428
Petra would probably fully redeem that Gwenom
>>130666841
Indeed. I could also see her making a pair of iron bee leggings similar to the MCU nano spider suit as a gift
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>>130665875
>Petra and Gwen becomes super close friends with Liz in high school
>Liz is very secretive about her family at first, because she doesn't want people to know she's rich AF
>She gets pressured by her stepmom to invite some friends for a party, because Adrianna wants her to socialize and would like to meet them
>This of course, happens after the first encounters between Honey-Bee and the Black Swan, which Petra lost since Swan is a master of aerial combat
>Swan had already gotten her loot and decided Honey-Bee wasn't worth the time, so she decided to let Petra live, all while leaving her with a warning about how she wouldn't be so merciful next time
>Petra and Gwen show up at Liz's house, and are very impressed about their friend's wealth
>Liz facepalms, because it's exactly what she didn't wanted to happen
>Liz introduces them to her stepmom
>Petra recognizes her voice, even if Adrianna sounds super polite
Petra's face when
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>>130667659
I think this would probably be like a more game version of the homecoming scene with both recognizing the other and possibly the beginning of some mutual respect
Though I see the mutual respect reaching a height with Petra helping our Maddie. I’ve said this before but I think the biggest contrast between Petra and Peter is that Petra is a social person while Peter is more of a loner hero
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>>130656332
If Honey-Bee ever kissed Toxic instead of vice versa, Jeanne would probably faint from happiness
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>>130668378
From what we've gotten from these threads, I see Adrianna leaning more towards the MCU Vulture than the 616 one in terms of characterization. She's ruthless, a professional in her craft and only targets very specific people or businesses to steal from them; and that's how she made her fortune.
But at the same time, she's very family-driven and knows Petra is a good girl who cares for Liz and Maddie. So there's that. Black Swan might not actively try to kill Honey-Bee, but isn't going to hesitate to fight her if she keeps getting in her plans. A full "nothing personal, it's just business" mindset, if you wish.

And there's also the Pixie. Norma is their common enemy, the kind of big threat that makes them team up, with Petra going to Adrianna for help when the Pixie shows up with her Unseelie Court and she's completely outnumbered. Hell, I see Black Swan taking Morbius' place in HB-earth's equivalent of Maximum Carnage.

I definitely think there might have been a battle where their views put them at odds. They take the Pixie down, and either she's unconscious or reverts to being good ol' Norma. It doesn't matter. Swan wants to go through the pragmatic route and put her down, because she knows the Pixie will keep coming back to threaten them.
As she's preparing to slay Norma, Petra gets in the way and yells that she won't let Swan kill her because it's not right and she could be cured, which forces Swan to stand down while telling Petra she's going to regret it, and there's monsters you can't reason with nor can be cured.
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Got bored and Brainstormed Names for other Villains:

>Maddie Raxton = Shiver
>Hydro Man = Flash Fire
>Mr Negative = Yin Yang
>Kraven the Hunter = Craven the Collector
>Punisher = Judicator
>Wilson Fisk = Wilhemina Fisk/Empress
>Shriek = Mumble
>The Jackal = Hound Dog
>Walrus = Sea Lion
>Silvermane = Goldberg

Lesser known villains:
>Crime Master = Law Master
>Looter/Meteor Man = NG Fester the Sentient Asteroid
>Kangaroo = Locust
>Answer = The Problem
>Boomerang = Missile
>Vermin = Chinchilla
>Hippo = Narwhal

Lemme know what you think
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>>130669555
Continuation and Explanation:

>Mr Negative = Miss Yin/Lady Yang
I chose it because the Character alternates between positive and negative
>Punisher = Judith Cassel/Judicator
I imagine the counterpart is just judge dredd without the police brutality and will judge criminals even with the smallest crimes
>Wilson Fisk/Kingpin = Wilhelmina Fisk/Empress
Basically a mayor that rules with an iron fist and will maintain order and peace, She has a problem with Petra and all costumed heroes/villains calling them as 'public nuisance' and vows to eradicate them out of the city
>Walrus = Sea Lion
originally a joke character. I imagined her being the most badass villainess to Petra. Cold, savage and relentless as opposed to being comically stupid in the mainline series.
>Shriek = Mumble
I imagined him looking like a doomer guy wojak that can cause anyone bad luck just by whispering. Is a socially Inept person and likes to talk to himself.
>Kraven the Hunter = Craven the Collector
Because it sounds fitting
>The Jackal = Hound Dog
A Humanoid Doberman that works with Fisk. Acts as the stern police chief that patrols the city.
>Molten Man = Shiver
Because of having cold powers, why not?
>Hydro Man = Flash Fire
I imagined her just a girl that spontaneously combust/explode causing disaster in there vicinity
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>>130669907
I like the Sea Lion.
But, if you're making her super deadly, why not call her Leopard Seal? Those things are terrifying, extremely predatory and have been known to kill a human.
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>>130669907
I really like these though I agree with >>130670037 on leopard seal being a bit scarier. And I could see Miss Positive changing her name after becoming more aware of Negative/Yin
Also Hydro Man’s opposite is already Flamme Fatale and Shiver is probably a nickname others give Maddie since she prefers not to be seen as a costumed super
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>>130670037
Its because the lion part in the name souns cool and badass
I looked up Leopard seals and damn they are terrifying as fuck
From now on, She is Leopard Seal.
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So does anyone feel like expanding on the Gwen, Petra, and MJ friendship with Petra and MJ being childhood friends?
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Here's Claire Kasady.
I wanted to give her a more punk-like haircut, but there's no Kasady insanity without the crazy Chuckie Finster hairdo.

>>130669555
I had an idea for Shriek, which was basically a big, hulking death metal guy who doesn't scream, but rather roars and does those death metak pig squeals.
But in hindsight, it's probably gonna look too much like Lobo.
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>>130671207
Looks amazing! And yeah, that could end up being a bit like Lobo. Maybe create something like a muffler villain. Someone who’s main power is completely removing all sound from an area. Buffy the Vampire Slayer proves how scary that is
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I love these two dorks and how they’re made for each other. We need more of them together
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>>130669555
>>130669907
>>130670037
>>130670102
I made a design for Leopard Seal

Ferocious and built like a brick shit house

Hope you like the art anon
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>>130671940
Looks amazing as always! She seems like a very threatening foe though I’m also sensing that she may have a soft center
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>>130620127
Everytime I see this character, I think of Skitter instead
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>>130669555
I'm not too keen on Yin/Yang for Miss Positive and Mistress Negative, because one, Yin and Yang are Chinese concepts, and we established that Mistress Negative is Japanese spirit, and two, we've kind of established Miss Positive and Mistress Negative
>Hydro Man
We've characterized Flame Fatale as a professional pyrokinetic supervillain for hire. Literally "It's just business", and knows when to get out of the way
>Maddie Raxton
Her entire shtick is that she doesn't want to get involved with the costumed antics of her stepmother and her "friends", hence why she doesn't have a spandex outfit or a code name. Maybe Petra makes up different "supervillain" names to hide Maddie's identity?
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>>130671940
Looks cool! I know she's an inversion of Walrus, but what's her backstory and characterization in the Bee-verse?
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>>130669555
>The Jackal = Hound Dog
Is this the same Jackal that made the clones? Because if so, we already have an idea for him (I think we ultimately kept him the same?)
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New canon:
>Glass Lass cracks when she’s upset
>Dazzla’s “pet” is a dark arcane tome she has chained up in her room
>The last time someone forgot Doe’s birthday they had to rebuild Times Square
>Quake gets wobbly legged when scared or nervous
>Ghulia will sometimes get drunk and cry about some high school boy crush named Felix
>Black Swan becomes unhinged when her age becomes a topic of discussion
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>>130672901
Well, since Walrus was a dumbass and a “mass destructionist” I could see Leopard Seal being a competent assassin or cleaner for the mafia with a soft center. Also for some reason I imagine her having a slight crush on Wolverine and being embarrassed about it
>>130672924
Hound Dog works fine and we could always pull a Connors where we have the gender reman the same while other factors change
Honestly I’m still slightly hoping we eventually get a Beeverse Connors design showing him off as a true mad scientist. Personally I’ve always imagined him as having some type of goggles and a tiny bit of very thin mecha armor under his lab coat
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>>130672944
What if, in her "dehydrated" state, Ghulia gets drunk faster?
>>130673040
I like the competent mafia cleaner with a soft spot for Leopard Seal. I mean, not to reference anime FOTMs, but something like Yor Forger from Spy x Family?
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>>130673187
Yeah, I could see her being similar to Yor. And honestly I think it’s fine to reference some anime as long as it’s for substance and not something shallow.
The way I see it she probably usually wears a typical suit and sunglasses to avoid detection, and breaks out the armored seal suit when dealing with supers (usually mutants) with her power just being enhanced strength and regeneration
Actually now that I think about it, I feel like mutants or just powered individuals should be a bit more common in Marvel in general but also especially in the beeverse where the clones are making less people hate mutants. Though the powers they develop are probably really weak since for every X-man there are ten people that just get horns, or two hearts, or higher durability, or minor powers similar to Bioshock plasmids
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>>130673295
Well mutant hate was a thing beefore Petra and her clones entered the scene, so it is likely there are few around her age and older, but more kids for Charles’ School
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>>130673295
>And honestly I think it’s fine to reference some anime as long as it’s for substance and not something shallow.
I was more risking people not knowing who Yor is, considering Spy x Family only started airing this season lol

Considering Walrus's connection with White Rabbit, would Leopard Seal be the cleaner for Cheshire? That being said, Walrus was a reference to the "Walrus and the Carpenter" poem from Through the Looking Glass, hence the connection to Whtie Rabbit, so should we change her to be more thematically appropriate? Like "The Carpenter" or "The Oyster"?
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Just got this scene in mind when Toxic joins Xavier’s school, with Wolverine being suspicious of her intentions https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=czcpGn_rayI&feature=emb_title
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>>130673762
If you wanna keep it thematic (since Cheshire is still a reference to Lewis Carroll), why not the Bandersnatch or the Jabberwock?
Petra having a flying enemy that is basically a flying woman in a dragon armor would be interesting. Like a more lethal version of Black Swan and Hornet, and possibly even capable of countering the symbiotes with ease to show how dangerous she is.
(Although I like the Leopard Seal idea, is a very underused animal)
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>>130643169
Gerry Drew (Jeri? He does become Spider-Man later on) would definitely be Jesse and Carol's kid.
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>>130673875
While I agree on both points, I feel like giving F!Walrus too many gimmicks takes away from her "Mafia cleaner with a soft spot" persona. In terms of Alice in Wonderland characters, I feel like The Carpenter would be a simple No-frills reference not only to her 616 counterpart, but also to her little-to-no-frills personality without mucking it up with gimmicks like flying or dragon fire or whatever.
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"Hey Honey-Bee! You know what would cure your little friend's back?"
"COCAINE!"
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>>130676004
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In what period of time are the heroes?
I know that time is something else in comics, but I would like to find out for the environment, fashion, technology for ordinary people, etc.
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>>130677481
Modern day, I think.
The timeline is a weird mix of all the Marvel eras.
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>>130671940
>>130671207
Great designs, anons!
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>>130677481
Modern day, but we do have some vintage/silver age interpretations of some of the girls.
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>>130620809
Good design.
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>>130638636
>I thought the bracelets could have a H20 feeding tube to a hydration regulator on her chest, or "scarab"
Really dig it
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Welp, just finished Amphibia and now I'm hanging around here... how's it going?

Picrel reminds me of >>130620593 >>130620608
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Revisiting an earlier concept idea:
>The Doodle, AU version of Paper Doll
>A remnant of the Yokai Night, the Doodle is a demonic spirit who preys on people with artistic skills and strong emotions
>Initially, the spirit that would become the Doodle took refuge in the sketchbook of a struggling NY artist and started communicating with her, feeding off the artist's depression
>The artist's skill transformed the amorphous splatter of living ink into the depiction of an old school gentleman that she began to call "Pablo Dali", mistaking it with a benign entity of sorts
>In the following months, the Doodle finished consuming the artist and some others until it found a very talented artist prone to bouts of depression and mood swings
>Namely, one Quinn Beck
>Feeding off Quinn's magical aura for weeks, the Doodle grew in power until it was strong enough to survive outside of a paper surface, and it threatens to overpower and devour Quinn once and for all, as it became immune to her magics
>Now, it's up to Honey-Bee to save her friend from a creature that seemingly cannot be killed or stopped, as it can shapeshift and disappear into any paper surface to escape
>While fighting Petra, the Doodle morphs rapidly into several shapes out of Quinn's massive art archive: from Gundams to dragons, furries, several anime characters, a demonic Evil-Lynn-ish version of Quinn and a very inappropiate version of Honey-Bee who might have been commissioned by a certain Latverian princess
>After a long battle, Petra manages to subdue the Doodle using a combination of paint thinner, one of Doe's childish drawings and a burger wrapper
>Stuck in the shape of a crudely drawn anime princess, the Doodle schemes and bids its time until someone foolish enough frees it from its' greasy, crumpled prison
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>>130680567
It’s going good. Are you enjoying our thread?
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>>130680687
I kind of imagine it being like a Doodle-bob quailty Doe doodle
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>>130680940
yeah, I like when stuff is made on /co/
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>>130635115
What is she sweats honey but it doesn't get its healing properties unless she's fully under stress. Adrenaline being the key to her production of honey that can heal her give a reason why she can keep going in life and death situations.
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>>130681651
idk, I kind of like the inherent grossness of Petra having to vomit up healing honey, not only to explain why she almost never uses it, but also to make it harder for Pixie to harvest
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>>130681486
>you're an immortal demon
>you've fed on greek philosophers, medieval bards, classic music composers, renaissance artists, haiku poets and some other figures
>you mess up and are defeated by a crazy human dressed like a bug
>and now, you're stuck looking like this in a hellish prison that reeks of cheap food, is extremely greasy and crumpled to the point where moving feels almost painful
>and you cannot even scream, because your mouth is a simple line
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>>130681716
It's probably framed somewhere in the Sanctum with the caption: "Immortal Demon Do Not Throw Out", and the only times Doodle escapes is because the cleaners don't read the sign and throw the burger wrapper in the trash
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>>130627760
looks like a kind of siberian
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>>130682215
what do you mean?
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>>130672557
looking good
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Any more ideas for interactions?
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>>130683050
>Toxic and Dazzla
>Miss Positive helps Maddie work through her rage
>MJ, Gwen, and Petra having fun
>Harry just having his role in all of this
>Doctor Connors offering to cure the Thing
>Professor X inviting Honey-Bee into the Illuminati just to get back at Tony
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>>130683050
Petra and Jesse
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>>130683226
>Doctor Connors offering to cure the Thing
>"Believe me, Doc, if Reed can't cure me, no one can"
>"Nonsense! Here, let me inject snake DNA into your system, maybe you'll molt out of that rocky skin of yours!"
>"Hell no! I'm not risking turning into a giant snake man instead of a giant rock monster!"
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>>130683631
>the serum from the Lizard causes Ben to start rapidly mutating like from what if the beast and the thing continued to mutate
>slowly petrified until he’s a bloated structure of rock and crystal
>a couple days later the rock breaks away to reveal Ben as Dragonfly
>the first thing he does upon “hatching” is punch Connors
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>>130683879
>Reed is able to reverse it...
>But only to his ol' rock bod
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>>130683919
>Ben is constantly left with the moral conundrum of either Accepting a few lizard traits or continuing to stay rocky with Reed
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>>130684010
>After seeing Petra turn into a giant bee monster, he decides to just stick with Reed
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I don’t know why, but I like to imagine that since MJ is both a model and a consultant for Petra, they do a bunch of photo shoots together with MJ mostly deciding on what to wear
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>>130681711
Thats fair. I just had the idea from a poison tree frog based character I had thought of where they would sweat varying levels of toxins depending on stress. I think the vomit idea could work. Would it start as reflex she can't control? Such as when she's sleeping she's producing honey or would it be an active thing?
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>>130684516
>Thats fair. I just had the idea from a poison tree frog based character I had thought of where they would sweat varying levels of toxins depending on stress.
Isn’t that basically Toxic? Short for “Toxic Frog”? Her suits produce the toxic “sweat” to paralyze foes, or to slip through tight spot.
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>>130684516
I think it does start out as a reflex but she eventually figures out how to control it
Really Petra just has to not eat way too much sugar to avoid it
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>>130684369
This but she's constantly at odds between her jealousy wanting to make Petra look slightly uglier than her, and her job, which is to make Petra look cute/hot
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>>130683050
Black Swan feeling threatened by Ghulia's beauty
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>>130685095
Indeed that is probably the case, though I could see Petra’s low confidence keeping her from being too mean
Probably just uses the cheerleader effect to make them look equally good
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>>130685293
>Pre-frenemy, early career Honey-Bee
>MJ, Gwen, and Petra have a slumber party
>MJ gives Petra an incredibly unflattering outfit or something, and tries to take selfies to post on instagram
>Shots like Petra still having a mud mask on or wearing an unflattering sweater
>But for whatever reason she can't bring herself to post them
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>>130686639
>MJ, Petra, and Gwen have another slumber party
>Inevitably, the discussion turns to boys
>MJ and Gwen ask if Petra's into any of the super heroes
>Petra blushes
>MJ and Gwen squee and then try to guess who it is
>They start naming off heroes, like Cap, Tony, Wolverine, etc.
>Petra's face turns even redder when they mention Johnny
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>>130687215
>Petra desperately tries to turn the question around
>Only digs herself further into the hole when she could only gush about Johnny
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>>130688214
Looks great, and nice reference! Also, it's about time we got a full body shot of Ghulia lol!
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I was thinking about adapting Frog-Man into a super ruthless vigilante, a complete opposite of the joke character he usually is. Toxic seems to monopolize the 'frog' gimmick, so I'm thinking of a venomous snake.

>Eugenia Patilio, the Rattlesnake
>Her mother, the obscure villain known as the Pit Viper, was killed by Cheshire when Eugenia was still a teenager
>Eugenia, wanting revenge, adopted her mother's gear and reworked it into the identity of the Rattlesnake, an extremely violent vigilante
>Eugenia's tech includes goggles with thermal vision, kinetic servos that increase her speed; as well as projectiles, boot spurs and blades that are coated in a highly modified snake-based poison
>Her tactics usually put her at odds with Honey-Bee, and while she thinks the little bee is a nice kid, Eugenia also considers her very soft and probably someone who isn't gonna last long
>They get into a fight during a team-up, as HB stops Rattlesnake from killing a wounded Cheshire and obtaining her vengeance
>Also, she usually joins forces with the Punisher from time to time
>The only time she got defeated, was when she tried to kill the Empress and got her ass kicked by the Door
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>>130688657
How about Diamondback? Her outfit/gear could have little black diamonds as the main decor? But where does the Rattle part come in?
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>>130688760
Isn't Diamondback a Captain America villain?
I was thinking about snakes, and the rattlesnake is the first thing that came to mind after avoiding all the other big snakes that are used by the Serpent Society. And I wanted to avoid the cobra on purpose.
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>>130688844
Apparently there's two Diamondbacks, one who's a villain for Luke Cage, and one for Cap, so I guess D-back is out of the question.

Regarding the rattle, that's fair, but I think, if we're calling her Rattlesnake, she should have something that rattles to justify her name. But if we can't figure it out, how about Coral Snake? Red, black, and yellow coloration, one of the most potent venoms of any North American Snake, and, as far as I know, not used by the Serpent Society?
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>Ghulia being a lazy ass queen in the house, sitting on the couch.
>Dazzla is running around like a madwoman brining Ghulia things as she asks. Glass lass looks puzzled
>"Dazz, what the hell are you doing?"
>"I gotta bring Ghulia these snack wafers or she'll curse me!"
>".....Curse you?"
>"YES! She's a walking mummy! What do you think is going to happen if I piss her off?"
>"Dazz for f-....look, she's not a real "mummy", that's part of her entire gimmick."
>"I happen to be a master of the arcane arts, and I think I know a reanimated mummy when I see one."
>"Dazzla! I'm still waiting for my snacks, and my drink needs refreshing!"
>"I-I was just coming, Ghulia! But we're out of the vanilla flavor wafers and all we have is choc-"
>"Curse~"
>"I-I'll go buy some now!"
>"The hell you will. Ghulie, enough of this."
>The wind picks up, and Ghulia's face turns horrid
>"Curse.....Curse!....CURSE!!!!!"
>".....I can see you holding the fan remote"
>"Okay fine, but she was dumb enough to buy it."
>"I'm bringing Dazz back in here, and you can tell the truth."
>"Stick with the bit, and I'll tell her you're Bloody Mary haunting glass shards."
>"......Deal"
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>>130688896
Discounting the rattlesnake and those used by the Serpent Society, we're left with the Taipan, the banded Krait, the tiger snake, the coral snake, the sea snake, the rinkhal and the dugite as options.
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>>130688925
I love how much of an absolute dumbass Dazzla is, especially with the implication that she’s a magical powerhouse just slightly beneath Strange or the Scarlet Witch
Makes me wonder if she may actually have a future as some kind of Idiot Goddess like Aqua
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>>130689358
Some anon proposed that in the equivalent of Spider-Girl's future era, she's the sorceress supreme.
Just let that sink in.
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>>130689358
>>130689403
>Dazzla: "This? Conjuring forces from beyond the ether? It's not only simple, it's boring. Any idiot can do what I do if they take the time to read the right books. I'm not interested in being a dime a dozen mystical warrior. No, I....I AM AN ENTERTAINER! I AM DAZZLA THE DEFIER OF THE IMPOSSIBLE! I INCITE THE IMAGINATIONS OF MILLIONS.....AND WILL SOON KNOWN IN EVERY THEATER!.....famefortuneandYoutubefollowingpermitting..."
>"Dazzla, get off the coffee table."
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>>130689239
Krait, I feel, would be the best bet. The Yellow and Black color scheme is visually striking, and the name is short enough to roll off the tongue

>>130688925
>>130689358
>>130689512
Glorious
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>Due to some magical mishap caused by Quinn, Petra is sent 25 years into the future
>The world hasn't ended, thankfully
>In fact, it's one of the few 'good' futures in the Marvel multiverse
>There's a Parker Industries headed by an older version of herself
>She has two daughters, May and Annie; with May being Johnny Storm's daughter and being the costumed hero known as the Firefly; Annie is the second Honey-Bee
>We never know who is Annie's father
>The clone swarm is still around, acting as an appendix to the Avengers for situations such as natural disasters, riot control and reconstruction after large-scale villain attacks
>Dazzla is Earth's sorceress supreme, and is still a dumbass who can't stop talking in an ominous, Wizard of Oz-ish way
>Doe and her husband, the Bronze Bear; are an international hero force; Doe has two indestructible kids who are simply known as 'the cubs'
>Earthquake got her shit together and now works as chief engineer for Parker Industries
>Madison Raxton found a successful career playing Elsa in Disney's live-action versions of Frozen and some other roles that require an 'ice queen'
>Liz inherited Black Swan's business, she's also part of the Avengers as the second Black Swan
>Gwen Stacy is a police chief who still works in tandem with Honey-Bee
>MJ is basically Anna Wintour, now directing the Bugle as a massive media conglomerate
>Toxic rules Latveria as the controversial, but benevolent Queen Jeanne I; she's married to someone, we don't know who, but is hinted to be one of the clones
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>>130688657
>Toxic seems to monopolize the 'frog' gimmick
Tfw Toad from the Brotherhood of Evil Mutant starts harassing Toxic since they’re both amphibian themed, and keeps following her around, to her utmost disgust.

Otherwise we’re seeing something good in the rough.

>>130689239
I like the sound of Krait

>>130689646
Black and Yellow can be hard to work together sometimes as a color scheme. Look at the old paint job for the Salamanders in WH40K.

>>130688925
Kek
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>>130689967
Perfect
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I’ll dump some more pic to be edited. Say it if you want me to stop.
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Goes with >>130690577
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>When she notices Bronze Bear is also a guy
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>>130676715
Looks cool
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>Bronze Bear’s glorious weapon
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>>130692028
>BEARded axe
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>>130690784
Any edits that could have her alongside her boyfriend?
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>>130620774
Still my favorite of the 4
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>>130694375
I guess we should probably flesh out the different Mantises, outside of the whole Highlander thing, huh...

>>130633187 for reference
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>>130695504
Well, to start,
According to >>130648561 Clubs is based off of Abner.

>>130620787
Looks like she's the most clueless of the four Mantises. Maybe she's the one who's the least sure about the Highlander thing, and eventually becomes a heroine, like Leila Davis?
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>>130693690
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>>130695841
>>130620759 Spades looks kind of like someone who's outwardly done with this shit, but gets really into it when she puts on the armor. Not sure who she'd be a counterpart of

>>130620774
Hearts definitely seems like the flirty bi one of the four, and acts cutesy but is actually cunning to distract and get close to her foes. Also not sure who she'd be a counterpart of...
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What kind of traps would Centipede create to test the Frenemies?
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>>130697437
For Doe, a Rubik’s cube tied to an incendiary bomb.
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>>130696163
Weirdly fits given that BB has a massive arsenal of bear themed gadgets, weaponry, and vehicles
>>130698180
>tfw she fails the cube but accidentally diffuses the bomb
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>>130698471
I was thinking it'd be funnier for Doe to actually be really good at puzzles. She's naive and easily trusting and easily frightened, not outright stupid, after all.
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>>130698882

Centipede gives Doe the Cube, and immediately she hands it back solved and Centipede is confused how she managed to solve it so fast with those mittens on.
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>>130698941
Exactly! It's like Centipede is underestimating people because she actually doesn't know what they're capable of, and only assumes they're wasting their talents because of her narrow world view!
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>>130699182

She complaints, stating its impossible to do it while rapidly solving it with her highly engineered legs, and then she hands her two, and immediately gets two solved cubes back.

Then she tries four, and gets them back all solved and screams in confusion.
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>>130699431
She keeps throwing Doe all these different kinds of puzzles, sliding puzzles, turning puzzles, etc. and Doe solves them with ease - after all, when you're a sickly nerd, what else are you going to do other than master puzzles, read comics, and play vidya?
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>>130699627
>tfw Doe is a champion in numerous vidya
>Literally the only challenger ranked player in League of Legends who isn’t pure evil
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>>130699658
What if it's the other way around? What if the only reason why she's pure naive sugar in the real world is because she's incredibly toxic and competitive in vidya? Like at a slumber party they're playing Smash or something, and Doe starts getting really into it and calling everyone scrubs, which shocks everyone
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>>130699658
>This world's version of Video-Man attacks
>Is a VTuber AI gone terribly wrong, a kawaii anime girl who is obsessed about AI monsters like Ultron, Nimrod and Master Mold
>Petra is actually, very incompetent when it comes to videogames that aren't building sims, so she goes to get help
>Doe comes up, stares down Video-Girl, grabs a bottle of Mountain Dew and proceeds to singlehandedly destroy it in a very humiliating way, no matter what videogame it tries to challenge her with
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>>130699916
>First Petra invited Toxic since she’s a gamer girl
>She’s average, people mostly just stares at her tits
>Reluctantly Jeanne tells Petra Doe is the expert to go to
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>>130700303
>Toxic sells herself as a gamer league
>The only thing she can do decently is play eroges, dancing games and visual novels
>Otherwise, she gets destroyed in everything else
>Quinn just plays JRPGs and visual novels
>Maddie thinks videogames are dumb, but likes to kill time playing Candy Crush
>Liz only plays Overwatch, but is barely decent
>That's when they go for Doe
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>>130700393
>Doe arrives on the scene, no idea why everyone was waiting for her
>"Hi guys! What's going on?"
>Sees that Gamer-Girl is wreaking havoc in the arcade and stealing all of Doe's high scores
>Her demeanor immediately shifts as she realizes what's going on
>Doe cracks her knuckles and rolls up her sleeves
>"Let's do this"
>Proceeds to completely demolish Gamer-Girl in every game in the arcade, and then some
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I like to imagine that Doe and Bronze Bear and both accidentally immune to telepathy
Doe because reasons and Bear because he accidentally built his helmet like Magneto’s
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>>130700807
Accidentally? He probably made it telepathy proof after a fridge incident that's constantly mentioned but never shown. Like
>"Bronze Bear, why do you have <insert item here>?"
>"Because <insert incident here>"
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That's because Doe is simple minded. Not dumb, just a very simple person with super innocent thoughts. Mistress Negative can't affect Doe with her depression aura, because Doe sees the world as a giant children's book full of happy things and potential friends.
And I imagine Emma Frost would recoil in fear if she ever tried to make sense of Doe's mindspace, which probably looks like an episode of Stickin' Around.
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>>130701271
>a dinosaur from the savage land is rampaging around New York
>good thing I brought my Bear Dinosaur repellent
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im a brainlet for spiderman, most of the references except the absolute obvious ones fly over my head. I dont get where half the characters coming up from this are supposed to reference real spiderman gallery.
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>>130701575
Basically everyone here is an opposite with a key over here >>130620149
Just take any Spider-Man character not used yet and flip em
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>>130701575
They're all spider-man characters, just gender and concept swapped, as outlined in the first post
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>Just take any Spider-Man character not used yet and flip em

Can Mary Jane be Max Power?
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We’ve been neglecting Radia
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>>130702439
We're limiting the gender swapping to the superpowered individuals related to Spidey. Folks like Uncle Ben, MJ, Aunt May, JJJ, Gwen, Harry, and Liz and the larger Marvel universe are untouched
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>>130702481
I remember one Spider-Man game gave electro a sister, that could be expanded upon
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>>130702510

Only peps originating from the spidey continue?

No Mutants, no Daredevil no Avengers?
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>>130702481
poor girl, only GL can be near her without fear for her own health
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When meeting Bronze Bear
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>>130702581
Yes
Except Dr. Connors, he is still Lizard

>>130702568
Really? I remember her being mentioned in one comic and she was diabetic or something.
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>>130702581
Yeah, limiting it to just to the Super-powered Spidey cast allows us to explore relationships with the outer Marvel Universe, like Tony commissioning a "hive" of Honey-Bee Clones during Civil War as the impetus of the Clone Saga, or Petra's romantic relationship with Johnny Storm, etc.
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>>130702481
We can start playing with another story involving the second Electro, Francine.

>One day while she's sulking in her phone, Radia meets a crazy guy who obsesses over villains
>Francis Frye, who is definitely an edgelord, convinces Radia to meet with him
>They meet, one thing leads to another and Radia ends up irradiating Francis by mistake
>However, this goes awry, as Francis is turned into a second nuclear creature instead of getting cooked alive
>Unlike Electro in 616, Radia doesn't die but gets most of her powers siphoned by Francis, who becomes Radium, an unstoppable engine of destruction; like a miniature Godzilla
>Radium rampages through town, forcing Honey-Bee and Radia to team-up in order to stop him; since due to plot-related reasons, the Avengers and the FF are in space fighting some menace and they can't get to Bruce Banner for help
>Radia is faced with the dilemma of finally becoming a (mostly) normal person because her powers have been drained enough to stabilize, or return to being a nuclear nightmare; as the only way to stop Radium is to drain him and she's the only one capable to do it and surviving
>How this ends, it remains to be seen

I think this offers us a bit of exploration chances on Radia's character. Is she selfish enough to go away and leave Honey-Bee to deal with Radium, because she'll finally get to be normal? Or is she going to do the right thing and sacrifice her only shot at a normal life to stop a potential world-ending scenario?
And finally, how does Petra react to something beyond her league where her usual backup is nowhere to be seen? She's used to rely on the FF and the Avengers when something gets out of hand, like the Yokai Night; so how is she supposed to stop a creature that could literally kill her from afar, all while trying to save people from it?
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>>130703445

I'd say she gets away. She's not Miss Positive, someone who wants to be a hero, and will always be counted on to do the right thing. She's just someone who wants to be normal, and it's normal to want to get away from it all and not return to the status quo.

Besides, this would give Petra and her clones a chance to out-think a problem instead of hitting it with everything they've got
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>>130704079
I imagine it would be a "holy fuck" moment. Radia might be on board when Honey-Bee reaches to her for help, and as they plan their next move while Radia sees the extent of the devastation caused by Radium, as well as the efforts of guys like the X-Men and the Defenders to try to stop him while they're also evacuating people; she says "fuck it" and gets away without a warning, leaving a very distressed Petra without knowing what to do now that her only plan ran away.

I see Radia eventually returning to her bad ways, except she's no longer a walking Chernobyl and can control the extent of her weaker radioactive powers; but she's definitely on Petra's black list.

I wonder how the bees stop Radium, though. Perhaps this is where Piper finally gets her time to shine and engineers a containment unit or device that will absorb the excess radioactivity?
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>>130705263
I'd say, since this is a desperate decision, Gwen is the one who sacrifices the Iron Bee suit, kind of like what Tony did in IM3, where they remote launch it to enclose Radium, and then fly him up into the atmosphere and remote detonate to release all the radiation he absorbed or something. Maybe one of the clones suggests the "Chernobyl" method and encase him in concrete, and Petra shuts her down because she wants to save Francis?
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>>130638381
What kind of person is she? I mean her character
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>>130705990
Patty, the clone, is the youngest of the clones, and the most eager to step out of Petra's shadow. She's energetic, cheerful, and a little immature, and gets embarrassed when the other clones baby her
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>>130706765
Honestly I just love the clones and the warm relationship they have with Petra and the X-Men. And I really like how many of them immediately look for role models to follow
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>>130707508
>Honestly I just love the clones
Out side of Override, who doesn't?
>how many of them immediately look for role models to follow
Not all of them. Belle and Lilith forge their own path, Petunia follows Petra, Piper follows Tony, Phoenix follows Emma Frost, Takumi I guess follows Wolverine?, and Patty kind of just follows everyone trying to figure herself out. All the other clones just follow the hive leader, which is usually divided between Petunia and Phoenix, unless Petra shows up, in which the clones follow her
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>>130705372
If I remember correctly, the Iron Spider suit could be used to negate radiation. Spider-Man uses a chunk of it to stop Stegron in Feral, by encasing the rock of life in it.
So, yeah. I guess Gwen sacrifices the suit to use it as a prison to seal Radium; so he can be safely transported to somewhere like the Raft or if it exists in HB's earth, that prison from EMH that held gamma villains like the U-Foes, Abomination and the Leader.

Like Spider-Man, Petra is opposed to killing, so she'll try to find a way to keep Radium alive instead of burying him alive in a concrete tomb; as proposed by Lilith and Phoenix. That's when she'd remember about the Iron Spider suit and propose the idea to Gwen.
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>>130708071
I'd imagine Petra and Gwen realize it at about the same time, and Petra actually is against using it, since it would rob Gwen of the ability to walk. Gwen would actively volunteer to let it happen. Of course, in the process of transporting Radium to whatever containment facility (Maybe to use as a living generator to wick off the excess energy?), the suit gets beaten up and torn to bits, but thankfully, Piper is able to clean it up and fix it (and maybe add a few enhancements of her own?)
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>>130708151
Not to undermine the sacrifice, but let’s be honest. As soon as the suit was sacrificed, Petra would immediately start working on a new one starting with the legs. She definitely knows how, the only issue is funding
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>>130708338
I mean, it's a stressful moment, I wouldn't fault them for not thinking of building a new one until after Radium is taken care of lol.
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>>130708338
Wasn't mentioned that Piper keeps the Superior Honey-Bee suit? Because it might be interesting to see her combine both the Superior and Iron tech into a newer, more advanced design.
She's in the X-Mansion working with Beast and Forge, and she's impulsive and curious enough to "borrow" some leftover pieces to craft the Iron Bee Mark 2; which might look like a combo between pic related and the MCU Iron Spider, with the legs, less lethal tech than the Superior suit and a snarky AI helper.
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>>130709370
I know one of them took the Superior Bee suit on a joyride and accidentally hurt someone, but I don't know if we said Piper kept it? I think it's more likely that Piper made her own unofficial Iron Bee Mk 2 over using the Superior Bee suit. It's more likely that Petra takes the Superior suit back and locks it up imo
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>>130708338
Well, maybe they were counting on the suit not being destroyed when moving Radium into whatever solitary confinement he's placed in? But then again, if they weren't then Gwen's "sacrifice" wouldn't be nearly as emotional...
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What other interactions with the wider Marvel Universe can we think of? Like Kamala, the Champions, etc.
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>>130711431
Fangirling over Carol Danvers coming to work in the Bugle office because she's read her NASA book front to back.
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>>130711478
>Carol comes into the offices for an interview
>Petra starts squeeing
>Carol, thinking: "Oh great, I got another fangirl...I hope she doesn't write fanfiction like Kamala..."
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>>130711431
I kinda like the first two seasons of Ultimate Spider-Man, when he was in a team with Nova, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and White Tiger. I'd be fun to see how the dynamic would be play out with Petra instead of Peter.
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>>130711431
>>130711478
Carol sucks, Petra wouldn't be a fan.
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>>130711825
I honestly think it works much better with Petra since Bees are naturally social and spiders are not
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>>130711906
That makes no sense.
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>>130711825
Like the show team, or the actual heroes? I figure that the actual heroes would disregard Petra as a Bugle mascot, like all other heroes, up until Civil War. For the show team, where they're all teens, I think there's a bit of reverence, since Bee would be seen as one of the "successful" ones, because she has her own merch line and everything
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>>130711591
Carol and Petra meet way before she meets Kamala.
(The very first thing Kamala says to Peter is about her fanfiction of him and Carol remember.)
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>>130712377
But has Carol met Kamala yet? Carol probably doesn't bring up Kamala at all in her interview and is just comparing Petra's fangirling to Kamala in her head
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>>130712306
How about this:
>The first year, most heroes consider Petra nothing but a glorified mascot
>The Avengers are reluctant to let her join, even if Jameson keeps pestering them
>The Fantastic Four know she's a good girl, but see her as unexperienced and basically someone who is biting more than she can chew
>During their first meeting, Wolverine considers she's a complete annoyance
>Daredevil, Moon Knight, Iron Fist, Cage, Punisher, etc... they all see her as a rookie who is definitely going to get herself killed if she keeps messing with the Empress and Cheshire
>Then, one day, it happens
>Petra comes across the Juggernaut
>And he's soundly defeated by a combination of honey bombs, erratic flight patterns and a pool of wet cement
>The Avengers are baffled, she stopped the goddamn Juggernaut; something even Thor and the Hulk struggle to do
>Wolverine can't help but give her a thumbs up and say "way to go, kid"
>The Thing starts mocking Johnny Storm, saying he knows who has the pants in their relationship (which isn't a thing yet, but Ben knows there's something more than a friendship between them)
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So the Swarm analog has been reworked to Nectar, >>130620989, but I really like the nazi ghost stuck in a Spider plush from the previous Swarm idea. Any ideas on how we can still make this work in the Bee-verse? Which character can we link this too?
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>>130712062
Neither does Carolfags trying to work their shitty character into this
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>>130712405
Remember Kamala is a new character, Petra doesn't meet her until a couple years or so after she's a New Avenger (sliding timescale and all)
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part of me wishes that the artist who made the Golden Girl and Dragon Prince porn comic, or you know… perhaps even more comic artists who hangs on /co/… visits this thread and make their Honeybee comics.

>>130712883
>Deadpool is conflicted about her. One day he teams up with Honeybee, but Petra can’t find her suit anywhere. Deadpool hands her a homemade Spider-Man suit so he’d still feel like he’s with his regular web crawler.
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>>130711431
>>130713271
It'd be interesting if the "new" heroes (Kamala, Viv, Nadia, Lunella, Amadeus Cho, Miley, etc) show up by the time Petra is 20; which makes her an already established figure who has been around for about five years, but not too old to prevent her from hanging around with them from time to time.
Heck, maybe Patty is the Bee who joins the Champions in the long run, since she's the youngest clone. Or even Doe.
Just imagine Doe running on a team and having a freakout when they fight that Joker pastiche because she fears clowns after Quinn and Jeanne made the mistake of making her watch It.

>>130711478
Make it simpler.
>Carol runs her magazine as part of the many brands in the Bugle
>Petra works with her as a photographer/reporter a few times
>They end teaming up, eventually things happen and they probably fall out when Carol becomes Captain Marvel and tries to go full Minority Report during the second civil war
>Petra's arc in Civil War 2 is preventing Carol from arresting Doe, since the Inhuman dude saw Doe rampaging around in one of his visions and Carol says that tiny lady with the huge strength is a potential threat that must be contained
>And it's the frenemy squad on the run while Carol wants to arrest them since they're all potential risks
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>>130713401
Why would Petra be on the other side of CW2 compared to Peter? She definitely isn't closer to Tony.
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>>130712904
Any Golden Age Captain America nazi for works. Just have em return as a ghost
>>130713368
Remember, Petra still exists in the main multiverse meaning Deadpool knows he’s one of the few in a world without a Spidey
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>>130713504
What did Pete do in CW2?
Here, you get a potential arc in which she has to stand up to Carol because she's targetting her friends. Just consider it... Quinn is an uncontrolled magical power, Doe is a pocket-sized Juggernaut and Maddie can become extremely dangerous when she throws a tantrum.
She's not joining Tony over ideals. She's trying to protect her friends. Sounds like a better arc than being a filler like Spidey.
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>>130713561
Seems pretty selfish to protect her friends even when she knows there's a 99% chance they're going to do something awful.
Not a CW2 thread though.
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>>130713561
>>130713606
>after Petra stands up to Carol, Bronze Bear finally realizes this is a threat to Doe and arrives on the scene in his bear spaceship
>he then proceeds to solve CW2 through a weird hot blooded version of West Bat logic that nobody understands but nobody can disagree with
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>>130713271
>Dark Avengers era
Amusing challenge: Hornet as the new Dragonfly
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>>130713715
*pretending to be Honey-Bee, that's important
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>>130713561
>Arguing with Carolfags
They'll bend over backwards to defend their psycho waifu, anon.
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>>130713715
>>130713805
Does Mackenzie get the symbiote at some point? Because everything in the current lore we've done implies it goes straight from Edith to Flora, who then becomes Agent Dragonfly.
The other option would be Norma getting a costume made for Mackenzie, who becomes a more sinister version of Honey-Bee.
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Was thinking about GL and her physical structure of the body - If her body is made of fiberglass, then she can't be touched? Or rather, you can, but then there will be a terrible pain. Then she will try not to touch the other members of the team, right?
And about the fact that she doesn't eat - but no one forbid drinking beer or is that too much?
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The only reason I follow these projects is all is to rape these characters, whether male or female, it makes me feel virile and that I am raping by extension the creators of said characters

Slava Ukraini
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>>130716245
Bro this is a co au, there’s no single creator and it’s not fully original. And even then Override’s already beat you to the punch
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>>130671940
I made another leopard seal art

Enjoy
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>>130716809
looks powerful, love it!
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>>130715542
Did we mention it was fiberglass anywhere? I thought it was just normal, broken glass, like safety glass. Also, I think it would be funny if she drank beer or something, and it would just fill in the cracks in the glass. Not like expand and shatter, but just puts in a neat colored pattern in her body
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>>130718176
whoops, wrong thread
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>>130718176
Genderbent lanterns in a spiderman AU thread?
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>>130718270
See >>130718259
I had the r63 thread and the Honey-Bee thread in adjacent tabs and posted in the wrong thread lol
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>>130719094
It would be funny if every time Bronze Bear shows up, he has a different catchphrase. Kind of like Darkwing Duck? Or if he just uses a different Heisei Rider pose and catchphrase every time, like the first time he shows up, he does Double's "Now let's count your sins", but then during Yokai Night he does Gaim's "This is my stage now!"
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>>130711431
Does Jessica Jones still have a crush on Petra? Or are they tragic BFFs?
>>130713401
Spidey was such a non-entity during CW2 I don't know why that would be the big idea for Petra and Carol's relationship.
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>>130719785
This is the Bee-verse we're talking about, nothing is truly tragic when it comes to the heroes, lol

But I'd say it's another one-sided crush, but she's less obvious about it than Toxic
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Do you think Override will ever have a "No more bees" moment like Wanda's "no more mutants"?
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>>130720782
Of course...

and maybe try to kill Janet too for good measure. There's no such thing as too careful.
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>>130720833
It could be fun if that becomes the moment when Janet finally starts to respect and life Honey-Bee. When she realizes that the price for having such a “perfect” life is dealing with significantly more messed up villains as well as deranged fans and people that hate her for almost no reason at all (sort of including Janet)
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>>130720833
I know we had multiple ideas for Bee Keepers (Bee-verse Spider Slayers), but why can't we have both? One is the techno-organic one (>>130620934, >>130620951), and then the robot/mecha ones are built by Override?>>130620920
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>>130627760
>Now I'm MAD, Honey Bee! You've crossed The Line!
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>>130721247
top kek
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>>130718270
>tfw that's how we do AU!Fulmina
>He's just a nerdy guy who fights using constructs made out of electricity and patterned over geek stuff
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>>130721521
So he'd have a ring with a lightning bolt on it? There better be a million jokes about copyright infringement thrown at him lol
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>>130721571
I remember Fulmina was an electricity-based InHuman who came across Otto during the terrigen mist thingy.
So, how about this:
>Silas Prell is s a college student who happens to be of InHuman descent, so he ends undergoing the cocoon thingy when the terrigen mists incident happens
>He becomes Fulminum, a creature made of living lightning
>Being a complete dork, he starts exploring the posibility of becoming a superhero; and practices with his powers in secret
>Over time, Fulminum learns to use his powers in a way similar to 616 Electro, but also fights making constructs who looks like Gundams, Pokemon, dragons, etc; as well as yelling his 'techniques' when he attacks like an anime character
>He builds a super complex hero identity that becomes more convoluted everytime he tells his origin; and eventually no one knows if he's a InHuman, a mutant, a mutate, the long-lost son of Thor, an alien, a powerful elemental or totally not a Green Lantern parody
>And yes, he has a 'power ring' (actually doesn't do anything, but he's such a dork he'll say it was something crafted by an alien civilization)
>Gwenpool, Kamala or Doe usually call him on his lies
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>>130721712
Well, remember, this thread is gender swap AND concept swap. So maybe instead of being living lightning like Fulmina, he just creates a means of channeling and forming constructs out of lightning/electricity into a hand-held device?
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>>130720929
Doesn't Janet and Hank have the tornado guy with a torpedo helmet who has a similar fixation on Janet? I think he tried to rape her once, and even fucked a prostitute cosplaying as her and killed her afterwards.

>>130720952
Both works
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>>130721929
Sounds good.
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>>130721929
Maybe there's a montage of him going through different costumes and logos, each one an expy of a different hero (like a lightning bolt in a circle like Flash, or a costume reminiscent of Green Lantern's), before he settles on his current costume? The better question is, is he a conventionally attractive nerd? Or would he be full Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons?

>Silas also frequents (or works at) the same comic book store that Doe goes to to pick up her weekly floppies
>He kind of creeps her out, even moreso when he becomes a superhero
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>>130721712
Fulminus, not fulminum. Learn your Latin.
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>>130722258
Nah, gonna pull a Crichton velociraptor thing and leave it there.
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>>130722258
Maybe that's the point? A nerd he may be, but he doesn't actually know latin?
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>>130722238
Honestly, I think the overweight comic book nerd who's also a hero would be a fun dynamic, like everyone, including Doe, is off put by his asthmatic wheezing and his ACKTUALLY nerd-speak, but he's genuinely a good person who wants to be a hero to save people
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>>130723378
I was gonna suggest he looked more like pic related, which is why he creeps someone as friendly as Doe. But the overweight nerd also works.
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>>130723991
I mean, his weight doesn't really matter, what matters is his complete social ineptitude and lack of understanding of boundaries and his wheezy, nasally voice that makes people think he's a stereotypical nerd. I was just thinking him being an overweight neckbeard would help sell the image
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>When Doe sees what you’re packing
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Took so many screenshots… even if they are to be edited, still I feel like a weirdo
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This whole page could be edited
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>>130724122
>the only time he can actually hold a decent conversation, is when he talks about super obscure anime with Quinn
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>>130724619
Define "decent conversation". Like, nerding out and just rambling about obscure animu? Because I think even Quinn would be kind of off put by his aspy nature
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>>130724122
I can see him geeking out in the middle of a battle, making comparisons to comic books he's read, like "Oh man, this is just like <comic title, issue number>" or whatever

>>130724619
Honestly, he'd probably have more in common with Gwenpool, and they can geek out over comic books...even if Marvel and DC don't exactly exist in the Bee-verse
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>>130711431
At some point AIM being a natural enemy has been brought up right?
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>>130726382
I mean I feel like, with Honey-Bee and her clone's involvement with other heroes, she's bound to be targeted by all the villainous organizations in the Marvel Universe in one way or another. How would an AIM arc unfold, anyways?
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looked back at the scrapped marvel heroes.. you know... internet gaz, Dora the weight gain and I can't believe those twins are not a joke... and I got this in mind...

What if there was a younger version of the clones, like one who hasn't finished growing before Jackal and Ringleader's jig was up, who's now younger and dating B-Negative? Some people don't know, but bees sometimes feast on bodily fluids, which incldues bllod.
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>>130727431
Well, Patty is supposed to be the youngest of the clones, and we've decided she'd join the Champions, or at least be friends with Squirrel girl, so I could see her maybe hang out with B-Negative, even though all her "sisters" tell her he's a bad influence
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Guys, guys.
We forgot about Humbug.
He could really become a pain in the ass for Petra, especially if the counterpart still has the insect communication thingy and the insectile superpowers.
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>>130727527
Well in the comics Peter is in his late twenties, while characters like Squirrel Girl are between teens to 20-ish something.

I was thinking a bee closer to their age (physically at least).

But I’m kind of late with that idea.
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>>130727431
>>130727527
I think the blood-sucking bee was already covered with Doppelganger, who is a Vulture Bee.
But, how about a defective clone?
Perhaps the only one in the batch who is actually powerless or has a very diluted version of Honey-Bee's and the only thing she can do is communicate via pheromones and produce honey? That would explain why she could feel as an outcast among the others; and might decide to hang around with B-Negative out of trying to find a way to spice up her life.
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>>130727724
I mean, I figure that the Clones are physically aged in chambers to try and match Petra's current age during the Clone Saga, but the ones that were released "prematurely" are physically younger than Petra, hence Patty being the youngest of the clones
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>>130727532
So how would Bee-verse!Humbug work? What would be the concept reversal of Humbug's powers?
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>>130727823
Either stopping communication with insects or doing the reverse of communicating with insects
Or maybe she’s crazy and thinks bugs are talking to her and telling her what to do
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>>130727804
Was it already established Patty was released prematurely? If yes, I totally skipped past it.

>>130727789
Well I wasn’t aiming specifically at the bloodsucking, just a funny link between bees and vampires…

Got in mind a concept of Spider-sona years ago that could be adapted into a new bee perhaps. The gist of it is that in terms of powers he/she has more potential and base might, but in return has a need to consume calories and nutrients way higher than normal. Like a DC speedster.

My concept was for a character named Spider-Flame for a Frostpunk version of 616, with the hero being able to generate heat to the point of combustion, as well as higher strength and durability. Unfortunately he’d need to eat more to compensate, in a world where rations are becoming harder to come by.

I thought I could rework the idea into a premature clone who needs to eat a lot, and using her powers too much stunt her growth. Perhaps a key element missing for her to reach her full potential is the royal jelly?
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>>130727823
Humbug is basically:
>Superhuman strength, speed, agility, and senses.
>Ability to communicate with all insectoids on a planetary scale

So, I'm guessing F!Humbug, while having insect-based powers, she's just delusional and thinks she can communicate with insects. What she doesn't understand, is that bugs gravitate towards her because she emits pheromones that turn her into a giant beacon for flies, roaches, mosquitoes and other sorts of unpleasant bugs.
Idk if she should be a cockroach or a cicada. I'm leaning towards the cicada, that way you can give her a sonic attack that messes with Petra's flight skills and empathic finding; which makes Humbug considerably too dangerous to fight.
And her sonic attacks might vary from mild annoyance to powerful enough to shatter glass and cause physical damage to people and objects.
>tfw Humbug shatters Glass Lass when the latter tries to fight her, much to everyone's shock
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>>130728086
That was just my headcanon, since we always reference Patty as being younger than the rest, so I figured Patty would have been released from whatever cloning pod/cell/tank prematurely compared to the other clones
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>>130728086
I think we mentioned that this world's equivalent of Spider-Girl was Petra and Johnny Storm's daughter, and she goes by the identity of Firefly, since she has a combo of bee and fire powers. Perhaps you'd like to give her a shot?
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>>130728099
I like the idea of a crazy cicada themed villain, but what's her reason for being a criminal?
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>>130728261
The bugs told her to do crime
The bugs under her skin… there are bugs under her skin get them out get them out get them out get them out get them out get them out get them out
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>>130728147
Oh, ok then

>>130728222
Well I’m not really attached to my Spider-sona, I just thought I could reuse part of him instead of just being an idea in my mind.

And I don’t know anything about Spider-Girl
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>>130728304
I like your Spider-persona idea anon! Also there were talks of some clones being given x or inhuman or other genes for powers for extra gimmicks
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>>130728261
The original Humbug, if I remember correctly, was some college researcher who was trying to prove bugs were useful and then got his funding cancelled; which is why he became a villain.

I'm thinking, can we tie her to the Lizard?
As in, perhaps she was working with him in the same lab, and got exposed to some sort of mutagen that gave her cicada powers and also damaged her mind to make her think she's talking to bugs?
And the bugs want her to prove insects are better than those pesky humans. Perhaps she always has a huge beetle on her shoulder, that she swears is influencing her to commit crime and turns out to be a normal bug?
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>>130728287
>>130728371
So in other words, she's a literal schizo who thinks the bugs are telling her to commit crimes?
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>>130728368
>I like your Spider-persona idea anon!
Thanks!... but should we keep the first bee version draft that I brought up or as a Spider-Girl offshoot?

>Also there were talks of some clones being given x or inhuman or other genes for powers for extra gimmicks
Clones of the heroine made by the bad guy with the addition of extra powers? Kinda reminds me of Atomic Betty. Loved that show.
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>>130728368
>lso there were talks of some clones being given x or inhuman or other genes for powers for extra gimmicks
Did we ever go through with that, or was that all just talk, and the only "modified" clones were Belle (bigger butt) and Lilith?
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>>130717898
>Did we mention it was fiberglass anywhere?
Yeah, a few times before this thread, that's why i want to make it clear.

>I thought it was just normal, broken glass, like safety glass.
This might work too

>if she drank beer or something, and it would just fill in the cracks in the glass.

Yeah, would be funny, I like it
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>>130729768
Honestly, when I think about Glass Lass, I think more of a smooth glass sculpture that cracks more as she gets angrier, so the safety glass look is closer to what I think of over, say, fiberglass
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>>130730112
>GL is 200% mad
>fucking shatters into a fine powder
>Quinn: Why’d she do that?
>Toxic: Why wouldn’t she?
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>>130730112
Okay then, there will be more interactions with frenemies
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>>130730262
I mean, she's like safety glass, so she still keeps her form, but you can clearly see the cracks, which get more and more numerous as she gets angrier
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Whats the equivalent of Sinister Six in beeverse?
Do villain groups retain their name?
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Is there a booru or something to see all the art?
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>>130730456
I think we pitched that Centipede forms her Sinister Six with her, Quake, Doe, Dazzla, Toxic, and Maddie. Most of them (Doe, Dazzla, Toxic, and Maddie) become "frenemies" and usually hang out together, often with Liz (Maddie's step-sister), Gwen, MJ, and Petra.

I don't know if Centipede would remake her Sinister Six with the counterparts of the original six (i.e. Radia, Glass Lass, Black Swan, Craven), but I think she'd need someone to replace Dazzla in the lineup. Maybe Override?
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>>130730491
I think everyone brings it up, but no one wants to take ownership of the booru. Same thing with a pastebin or wiki
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>>130730561
Someone mentioned a more "serious" Sinister Six that is led by Cheshire. As in, a bunch of people who REALLY hate Honey-Bee and join forces to kill her.
Someone mentioned the Pixie, Centipede, Cheshire, Mistress Negative, Craven and someone else I can't remember. And it ended with Centipede letting Honey-Bee live and dragging Pixie underground to "punish" her. I think it was in one of the march threads.
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>>130730614
Would Mistress Negative even part of this, though? I'd say the "serious" Six would be Cheshire (Mainly through his goons), Pixie, Centipede, Craven, Radia, and Glass Lass (through blackmail)
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>>130730561
>>130730614
Override is pretty much on top of the list of psychos who wants Honeybee dead

>>130729099
I'd say we keep it in mind for next thread
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So the thread's winding down. I think we should take a two week break this time, next thread being June 4th, so it would give draw friends to come up with more designs/finish more drawings, and to build up some more creative juices
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>>130730723
>>130730727
We're probably gonna echo the Insidious Six from TAS.
>Cheshire funds it
>The rest are Pixie, Centipede, Craven, Radia, Glass Lass and Hornet
>I'm thinking this is the reason Glass Lass switches to being part of Bronze Bear's squad
>After the Sinister Six fail, GL pretty much mentions she had nothing against HB, but she needed the cash
>Doe has a good idea for once
>She calls Bronze Bear and asks him to come, because she has a business proposition
>Through Doe's call, GL ends accepting to be part of BB's team and get paid a salary so she can sustain her family and avoid being a henchwoman for other criminals
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>>130730967
Maybe swap out Pixie for Override. I don't see why Pixie would team up with other villains when she has her own corporation to run
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>>130731060
Fair enough.
I was gonna say she wanted to capture Honey-Bee rather than kill her, but Override definitely makes more sense.
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OVERRIDE BEST GIRL!!!
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See you guys next thread! I guess June 4th, so people can recharge a bit?
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>>130731487
Yeah, I agree
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>>130731487
Seems cool. Hopefully we can do a bit of collaborative writing then
Also Doe is still Best Girl! I wanna see her in a cute dress with Bear
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Let’s be honest, seeing the frenemy squad + Petra and Gwen dressed as bee themed cheerleaders would destroy everyone here
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Petra is a good person
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>>130731795
she tries very hard, I hope nothing bad happens to her in the future
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Doe
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>>130731829
Same here. She always tries so hard to help out others
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>>130731839
DOE :)
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Miss Positive
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>>130732144
Is bad
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Gwen
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>>130732177
Doe is best girl!
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>>130732177
gasp!
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>>130731238
She brings the big guns, but is also an extreme wildcard

>>130731303
True dat

>>130731487
June 4th can’t hurry enough

>>130731700
Utter beestruction

>>130731795
That she is

>>130731829
Red flag…
>Override will remember this

>>130731839
Unfortunately Override got first claim… better luck next thread. I feel like I said it 3-4 times in a row now.
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>FOOLS! I am best girl!
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>>130732351
Tfw Connors changed sex to win a beauty pageant
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When will big tomboy woman get her first screen time?
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>>130732447
Not the weirdest thing he’s ever done
We don’t talk about the turtle
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>>130732539
Hopefully soon. I see her as someone not completely evil but still on another side
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>>130732541
We don’t talk about that turtle-no-no-no
We don’t talk about that tuuuuurtle
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>>130732621
But! It was an X-Men fight
It was an X-men fight
Charles was talking and there wasn’t any metal around
No metal allowed on the ground
Connors walks in with a mischievous grin
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>>130732725
BLUNDER!
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>>130732774
You reading this comic or am I?



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