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>zero prep time
>no knowledge of opposing family's abilities
>battle fought on large uninhabited tropical island
>no knowledge of opposing family's location on the island

Who takes it /co/?
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Superman beats Thor's ASS
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>>128244017
The Incredibles know how to fight.
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>>128244017
Oh good, more Encantx shilling, now in Deathbattle form.
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The Madrigals have superior numbers, 12 to 5 if we are counting the unpowered Madrigals, which I would since Mirabel clearly enhances her family's powers so I'd give it to them solely on the numbers.
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>>128244017
jack-jack would mog solo
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>>128244017
Frozone or no?
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>bonus round
>could either side defeat her?
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>>128244237
I'd say no since he's not part of their "family" although he could totally change the outcome.
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>>128244017
The encantos are completely screwed EXCEPT if that weather chick gets too agitated and causes an acid rain apocalypse something
Then they might have a chance
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>>128244336
u forget the mom can instaheal injuries with food, if she makes them some cookies, that's like fucking senzu beans, the incredibles are FINISHED
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>>128244017
The Parrs probably win, since they have actual combat experience. And the Madrigals don't have their own speedster to counter Dash. Even if we be generous and say Luisa stalemates Bob, that's still 3 superheros with actual experience in fighting against a bunch of non-combatants that never ever had to apply their powers to combat before.
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>>128244242
this bitch fucking solos both of them
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>>128244017
who's the strongest Superman pastiche, evil or otherwise?
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stats aside, what are their wincons?
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>>128244017
Typical white American/Latin American interactions, the gringos beat them down, but then feel kinda bad about them, let them stay. Mirabel is hired as the Parr's new babysitter, ends up sleeping with Bob and making him divorce Helen and marry her for that green card.
The usual stuff.
>>128244242
She becomes Frozone II or Frozone Girl. Mainly because I want to see her in the suit.
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>>128244242
Violet and Dash team up to take her out. Dash can move faster than she can react and Violet's force fields can block her ice and snow.
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>>128245939
Hickman Hyperion
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>>128245977
Vegeta depowers Thor into not-Billy Batson and gibs him
Thor uhhhhhh offers to fuck Bejitaa's wife forcing him to kneel
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>>128246238
King Thor can drain Galactus dry
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>>128246254
Hot
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>>128246238
Thor can absorb blasts and return them tenfold or a hundredfold and drain the energy off people. Vegeta has no means of depowering Thor into Donald Blake because Donald Blake hasn't been Thor's alter ego for quite a long while, and he also has no ability that would let him do that. Vegeta's wincons are being worthy (unlikely) and screwjob (likely)
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/co/ what do you think about the last death battle cast Ash vs Yugi? Did they make justice for both character?
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>>128246335
they make Yugi 8th dimensional thanks to GX bullshit
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he'd win the non DC Superman ripoff battle royale, wouldn't he?
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>>128246507
Supreme or Samaritan have decent shots
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>>128244017
I hate it when you pit characters who aren't able to fight against characters who are
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>>128245939
You just posted 'em
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>>128244017
They all /ss/ with dash
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This was an awful OP
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>>128246507
Sentry is stronger
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>>128245939
Sentry
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>>128246599
he's much more thematic than Sentry. remember when Hawkeye called the League a bunch of Squadron Supreme wannabes?
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>>128245977
wincons? inconclusive wins or win conditions?
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>>128246627
it's generally understood to be the latter
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who takes this?
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>>128246513
I don't think they can counter mjolnir speed scaling
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This guy has some of the highest endurance I've ever seen in vidya storylines. There's a difference between endurance and durability though.
>A grenade goes off in his face after he gets his shit kicked in by a monster who's over 5 meters tall.
>He survives this and proceeds to run across an entire fucking city and beats the shit out of 6 people, all while covered with gaping wounds
>He then travels nearly nonstop to the end of Chile in around a couple of hours, not even stopping to treat his wounds, and is constantly fighting stuff
That's just the first game. In the second game, he gets the pain of having your chest torn open reflected onto him, and the most it does is make him limp and breath heavily.
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>>128246726
not sure Ray can do much against Hank growing eternity sized
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>>128246726
Atom through DIALS
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>>128246757
We're JUST using Ant Man. No growing beyond normal size.
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>>128246764
dials didn't help Lobo, Luthor and Bats
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There's always that one guy who beats around the bush unless it suits his narrative.
>Character performs an explicit light speed attack
>N-No he's not doing lightspeed, we don't know enough!
>Oh and by the way this guy is MFTL because of scaling to an offscreen feat.
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>>128244017
The madrigals have the numbers, but their powers are mostly utility based as opposed to the incredibles combat based powers. If you gave the madigrals prep time they might be able to win by coordinating their powers tactically (super hearing chick specifically listens for violet and her sister impales the general location with thorns, the mom heals all injuries with food etc) but the incredibles should take any no prep match due to more experience and having more useful powers. 1/10 for madrigals without prep, 5/10 with prep.
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>>128246873
Madrigals feel like they would whip Incredibles if they had their combat experience- just the grandkids alone would be a crazy effective hero team and each second gen’s power is fuck off tier strong.

Its not as inherent of a mismatch as it seems at first, Dash is trouble but some combo of Pepa, Luisa, and Antonio can probably tag him, if only by baiting out his cocky childishness. The main issue is just what you say anon, prep time.
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>>128246873
>>128246974
Shatp
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>>128244017
>no knowledge of opposing family's location on the island
Dolores can immediately disregard this shit
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>>128244017
What happens?
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>>128247237
Goku and Superman blow the place up
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>>128244279
So we should exclude Agustin and Felix?
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>>128247237
Why do you keep posting this? It's a boring stomp, it always has been, Bloodborne sucks and anyone could survive it.
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>>128246778
Sure they did, Bats stomped Captain America.
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>>128246332
If Vegeta hits Thor real hard, he'll get knocked out
Just like when Superman beat Thor
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>>128246726
Pym Particles are basically Marvel's Speedforce.
Pym don't gotta explain shit, it'll basically be something like pic related and then he just easily kills Atom. And that's WITHOUT including Pymtron fuckery.
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>>128245939
>>128246507
>>128246513
>>128246599
SuperCHAD Prime takes them all at once no diff
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>>128246793
This is a cowardly seethe for something unspecified
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>>128246757
Shrink him
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>>128246773
>We're JUST using Ant Man
I accept your concession.
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>>128247349
Wrong. DC has DIALS.
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>>128247349
Just go into the Microverse
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>>128246726
Ray turns the lens on Hank
BOOM
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>>128247424
>i'm sure to win because my dials are s-
Dials? More like DILATE.
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>>128247452
>Can only beat Lex Luthor
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>>128247452
Well good for you you're wrong
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>>128247460
>Can only beat all of DC combined
FTFY
>>128247462
Concession? ACCEPTED.
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>>128247480
>Taps out at DC businessman
Kek
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>>128247336
>stats aside
>>128247359
>non DC
local shitposting has rotted your brains, tourists
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>>128247480
Wrong, wrong, and wrong.
Lex is a pussy.
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>>128247506
>>128247515
>IESLB
You BORE me.
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>>128247526
Just not powerful enough for DC, maybe he should try Image or Valiant
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>>128247526
Try Dark Horse.
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>>128247508
The original question (first link in post you're responding) asks who's the strongest Superman pastiche, period
Turns out you're the only retarded tourist here, assbleeding thorfag
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>>128247424
gangbang beatdown > DIALS
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>>128247566
one of the posts you replied to, which had nothing to do with the previous post as it was not a reply, specified non-DC. you did not make a distinction despite replying to it, and now you accuse me of neopagan worship for ousting you as the tourist you are. truly pathetic the mind of a DC tourist is
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>>128247567
Actually that Iron Man needed a Mother Box
So only the Dials can beat the Dials
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Superman: KICKED Thor's ass
Thor: his ass got KICKED
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>>128247582
Wonder Man, Shulkie and Vision are shitters
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>>128247602
they're also Mother Box tier
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>>128247581
>trying to pick niggling fights like an obvious tourist faggot
>calls everyone else tourist
The sad state of the asshurt
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>>128246726
Hank beat his wife and legally got away with it. he wins.
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>>128247535
Superman? SCAT FETISHIST. BISEXUAL SON. RAPED BY RUSSIANS. BENEATH DOOM.
Batman? KEKED BY BANE. REFUSES TO KILL A CLOWN DESPITE EVERYTHING BEING CLEAR THAT HE SHOULD. MENTALLY ILL MANCHILD IN A BAT SUIT. BENEATH DOOM.
Green Lantern? PEDOPHILE. ALLERGIC TO THE COLOR YELLOW. BENEATH DOOM.
Wonder Woman? A WOMAN. BENEATH DOOM.
Flash? DEFEATED BY DEATHSTROKE, PAPER, AND CATWOMAN. BENEATH DOOM.
Darkseid? WORKS AT MCDONALD'S. IS BEATEN BY STAIRS. ADDICTED TO COCAINE. BENEATH DOOM.
Anti Monitor? A JOBBER. BEATEN BY A CAR. NEEDS HIS MOMMA TO CARRY HIM. BENEATH DOOM.
Batkek? KILLED BY A SUN. BEATEN BY A TOMBSTONE. BENEATH DOOM.
I HATH SPOKEN.
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>>128247621
the lady doth protest too much, methinks
>>128247619
She-Hulk, Wonder Man and Vision are all Motherbox+ tier? Incredible... Marvel has dials...
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>>128247627
shit... this can't be happening DCbros...
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>>128247642
Then stop protesting, faggot
Accept Thor is a wimp who gets bodied by the thing you fear most: a woman
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>>128247627
Get cucked by a nerd, eurotrash
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>>128247627
Doom? KEKED
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>>128247662
>y-you're talking about yourself (??)
it seems your own fantasies of Thorfags have shattered your resolve... such a pity.
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>>128247707
Get off my dick if you want to say something so we can understand you, homo
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>>128247627
Iron Man? Multiversal.
Zarathos? Multiversal.
DOOM? Omniversal. Outerversal. Omnipotent.
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>>128247627
>Anti Monitor
>BEATEN BY A CAR
lmao, what?
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>>128247733
>beat by a bitch with buck teeth
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>>128247703
>>128247674
Merely a doombot.
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>>128247783
Cope and seethe
Doom's most familiar territory
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>>128247776
Omniversal, Outerversal, Omnipotent squirrels
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>>128248056
cope
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>>128244017
I know what you meant by "the incredibles" but the right picture includes the black guy, the incel, and the robot. The americans stomp hard
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>>128248134
Omniversal, Outerversal, Omnipotent cope
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>>128244017
lifting the book of infinite pages is a misleading feat of fathoming rather than strength. there was nothing material about or in Limbo.
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>>128248188
>flowery language for me not for thee
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>>128248205
pardon?
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>>128248168
Yes.
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When Superman hit Thor did Thor's life flash before his eyes as he lost consciousness?
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>>128248300
that only happens when you die don't it?
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>>128244017
If it's pre talking about Bruno, the family Madrigal are toast. Post...they automatically have prep time by default and win.
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>>128248326
Or near death, like Thor was
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>>128248461
wasn't near death he didn't need any healing
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>>128248471
He looked very distressed, worried for his life, as consciousness slipped away. Like he was keenly aware if Superman wasn't holding back, he would have died then and there
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>>128244017

The Incredibles end the Encanto family lineage so that they can no longer continue the family tree.

/thread
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>>128248495
we didn't really see his face as he got punched and he only looked mad in the previous panel but he was eager to fight supes again so i doubt he was scared
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>>128248505
Aggression in beta males is often a camouflage for fear, anon.
Thor was clearly as afraid as his teammates who dogpiled Superman dishonorably after his decisive, clean and fair victory
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>>128248538
but superman looked madder than thor
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>>128245977
Looks like Vegeta is going to take a fat L, as King Thor is insanely powerful.
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>>128248656
why would they use King Thor?
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>>128248706
They will.
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In fact, Vegeta was already losing in the preview. They're going to force him to use his last ditch resort attack against Thor.
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>>128248777
There isn't even a preview out yet retard.
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>>128248777
the final flash? Thor's gonna redirect that if he's smart, and fight it with the godblast if he's dumb. i'm just worried they'll give Thor the same permissive scaling they gave Iron Man and Doom
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>>128248800
Why are you calling me a retard? Whatever did I even do to you to make you insult me?
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>>128248829
it's the standard response to a shitpost or different opinion. along with tranny and thorfag
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Camilo, Dolores, Pepa, Felix, Abuela, Bruno, Julietta, Agustin, and Mirabel are all practically useless. Antonio is useless if the island is completely uninhabited. That leaves Isabela and Luisa to do all the actual fighting.

Parr's take this no contest, what a dumb match up

Plus superior milf plus ratio plus they're Colombian
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>>128248888
Well, I don't like it.

Please bepre polite with me.
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>>128247733
Doom? Cuckolded in his own marriage bed by his archenemy's brother in law.
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>>128248959
>He says, while posting the character who's spending his current time running around naked trying to get some crack
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FACTS:
>Dragon Ball only gets FTL with characters who are as fast as or faster than Dyspo
>Jojo's only FTL characters are Made in Heaven and Star Platinum/The World (with Time Stop)
>The only One Piece character to be able to move at the Speed of Light is Kizaru
>Scaling and feats in comics are nonexistent since Superman, Hulk, Thor, Wonder Woman, etc constantly go from being strong enough to destroy entire universes to being fodderized by whatever new villain Bendis or whoever wants to push even when they're likely not even powerful enough to destroy a planet
>Obscure shit like most VNs, comic characters who are C-listers and below, or anime characters who aren't huge draws like shonen stuff or shit that was once popular like Elfen Lied or Akame Ga Kill will never, ever be in Death Battle.
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>>128244017
how would he fare in DC?
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>>128249499
fodderizes the entire verse easily.
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>>128244017
You kidding me? Luisa is the only family member who the Incredibles should even pay attention to.
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WAKE ME UP
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>>128247602
It’s still Iron Man with a Mother Box
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>>128244017
Violet can easily take out and subdue all noncombatants (Mirabel, Bruno, Julieta, Abuela, Agustin, Felix) as well as Luisa by trapping them in bubbles, severely crippling the Madrigal's strategic abilities and removing their healer. There is largely nothing any of these characters could do to escape the bubbles once inside.

Pepa, Isabela, and Antonio's powers can all potentially reach outside the bubble, leaving them to fight off the rest of the Parrs along with Dolores and Camilo, who can elude capture. However, as his power is of little use for anything else, we'll say Camilo takes the place of Luisa (the obvious Madrigal MVP) in a bubble (Bruno and Dolores' powers allowed them to plan for this eventuality).

The playing field then is rounded out to Luisa, Isabela, Pepa, Dolores, and Antonio vs. Bob, Helen, Dash, and Jack-Jack.

We'll be generous to Luisa and say she and Bob are evenly matched and cancel one another out. Dolores can hear anyone coming, but ultimately can't outrun Dash who can easily overpower her and deliver her to Violet for bubbling, so her only real option is hiding until it's over. Isabela can shield herself and others from attackers with cacti and pollen, but if Jack-Jack decides to go invulnerable she has no defense against him. Antonio's animals can put up a good fight against potentially any of the Parrs but I think they'd be best suited to distracting Jack-Jack who, if he felt like it, could kill basically all of them.

Ultimately the only Madrigal who could possibly pose a threat to the Parrs is Pepa, which depends completely on her power that she has next to no control over. If she can summon gale-force winds, she can potentially blow away Dash and Helen. Bob could be taken out with a well-placed lightning strike. Violet's bubbles could likely protect herself but wouldn't be able to contain Pepa's weather.

In the end, it's really just a question of whether Pepa or Jack-Jack's random OP superpower wins.
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>>128251032
I think the nature of Pepa's powers, and her lack of control over them, ultimately makes her useless in a combat situation. I don't believe we ever see her exhibit enough fine control over them that we could confidently say she could use them in a high-stress situation like an actual fight. The most likely outcome is that during the fight she gets stressed enough to summon a category 10 hurricane and everybody on both sides dies.
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>>128249499
Bueno Excellente would make good use of that hourglass figure. Yujiro would feel the cheap used street meat inside himself
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>>128250741
Not that many big /m/ brands.
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>>128248559
A simple mistake on your part, beta
Thor was the aggressor, but Superman knocked his ass out, asserting his alpha dominance
Both you and Thor stayed mad, as determined by your beta natures
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>>128249047
(free) based swinging dick cosmic crack fiend
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>>128252346
And how many /m/ fights have we had?
Around 5 total?
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>>128250741
/co/ just feels more right.
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>>128249047
Where does that come from?
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>>128250741
If that's /m/, what does /lit/ look like?
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>>128252410
Depends what we count. Definitely anything involving Gundam and Power Rangers. Not so much Transformers but it has the shared common core.
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>>128252474
Nonexistent
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>>128252511
>not so much Transformers
nonsense anon
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>explosion couldn't even clear the clouds
Our planet isn't planet level, fucking pathetic.
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>>128245939
Aaron's Hyperion from the really bad heroes reborn event
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>>128253103
Wot
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>People on /m/ think the EVAs can defeat Godzilla.
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Superman: kicked Thor's ass
Thor: his ass got kicked by Superman
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>>128244017
Saying there's no prep time when Dolores and Bruno's powers basically boil down to "we always have prep time" feels kind of disingenuous
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>>128253674
Some do. The vast majority of the thread is saying Godzilla rapes them
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>>128253985
Because more people know him (and like him but I hope it's objective and not popularity contest) and are aware that dismissing him as some dumb big dinosaur is pretty much guaranteed to be the last mistake in your life.
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>>128252357
If you wanna play that game, Storm beat Wonder Woman.

So much for your DIALS.
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>>128253353
Underwater volcano explosion that happened like ten hours ago
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>>128254131
That was a vote based thing
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>>128254146
WHAT
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>>128254131
>muh non-canon voted winner
beta cope, thorfag
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Hawkman vs Starhawk
Will the real avatar of the Hawk God please stand up?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk_Brioe0mY
Someone in the comment section suggested something that would make this fight worth it
>We cut to the sun and moon
>Speed time up MILLIONS of years
>The Earth is just a dried husk
>They're STILL going at it
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>>128244242
She would've been killed by two guys with crossbows without the villain saving her.
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>>128244242
Should she fight Frozone, Iceman, or Jadis?
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>>128244242
unless she premakes those ice monsters then there is no chance.
>Strength to break ice as it forms
>stretch to outpace being frozen
>force fields to completely protect from freezing
>speed to completely out maneuver anything.
>jack jack can melt through everything

Encanto is dead for sure.
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>>128255074
the white witch is the most thematically relevant out of those 3 by far
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>>128244017
>>128244074
>>128244336
>>128244684
Yeah. There are possible scenarios where the Madrigals win, but none are as likely as the Parrs steamrolling them.

>>128246507
Samaritan beats him.

>>128246726
>>128247349
Getting big is the last thing Pym wants to do in this fight. All it means is presenting more mass for Ray to put on a death timer while being unable to do a thing to Ray in turn.

Ray ultimately wins because he can put Pym on a death timer he likely won't be aware of until its too late, and even if he does become aware of it he can only end the timer by returning to his original size where he'll get a little man tap dancing on his brain.
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>>128255650
Samaritan loses to both Moore Supreme and Hyperion due to lacking speed feats
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>>128255650
You watched Encanto?
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>>128249345
TRUTH

>>128251032
>>128251280
Pepa is more likely to get overwhelmed and taken out, especially when everyone but Bob has ways to sneak up on her, then she is to blast all of them with a monster storm.

>>128253674
Sahaquiel wank won't save them. Godzilla laughs his tail off at their safe-space fields.

I still don't understand why angels don't get tanged when you break their Freud fields.
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>>128254683
Starhawk wins unless you bring stupid shit into it.

>>128255673
Something something flies out of reality and they both lack the power to meaningfully hurt Samaritan.

>>128255694
I teach 11/12 year olds so I pick it up by proxy.
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>>128255775
>Something something flies out of reality and they both lack the power to meaningfully hurt Samaritan.
Supreme can also do that
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>>128255580
I agree, but does she stand any chance, power level wise?
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>>128255816
Oh shit. I forgot about him beating not-Specter.
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>>128255731
>I still don't understand why angels don't get tanged when you break their Freud fields.
they do in the remake film, and it just looks stupid and over the top.
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>>128255837
she has a very similar freezing kingdom feat, she probably wins by being overall smarter and more well experienced with her magic.
Frozone gets stomped by Elsa and Iceman stomps her.
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>>128255837
Deplorable Word means she wins.

>>128255863
Eva was always stupid and over the top.
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>>128255884
The angel not exploding led to cooler shots
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>>128255851
Didn’t Suprema lift the universe too
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>>128255879
>>128255884
You've sold me on Elsa vs Jadis. Will submit in the hopes of another salt-inducing match kek
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>>128255912
She lifted a snowglobe - a contentious 'universal mirror'-tier feat
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>>128244017
How would he fare in Marvel?
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>>128247627
>>superman was raped by russians
H-hot
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>>128255965
Darkhold'd and banished to Gorath's realm almost instantly
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Vegetafags have been pretty silent now that they know they're facing Rune King Thor.
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>>128255900
I will give you that. The coolest part about Eva was all the giant corpse shots.

>>128255948
No if you read the story its very clear she did in fact lift their universe.

>B-But how...

Because the being that created it was a Thunderbolt clone and Johnny Thunder's Thunderbolt can do anything.

>>128255965
Kang fodder.
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>>128255989
Rune King Thor was confirmed? Where?
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>>128255989
Buu level
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>>128255965
Him and Mr Sinister would be BFFs.
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>>128255965
another C tier villain
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>>128256058
Well, people are assuming Vegeta is fighting Thor, so.
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>>128255989
well if Cates runs continues having Thor as the skyfather for a while I could see them using Odin force Thor. This way they can eaily scale to Celestial splitting the universe like they did for Tony
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>>128256005
I read the story and it doesn't make it any clearer than she lifted a magical object of arbitrary and unknowable properties as opposed to predictable physical properties such as crushing a kitchen table under its mass, or distorting spacetime by having the mass of a universe concentrated into a snowglobe
And if we resort to the magical setting to explain this, then everything gets thrown into doubt, including Suprema's own strength and perceptions
Magical object; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties
Magical setting; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties and all 'feats' are consequently interpretive
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>>128255965
>Magic side: Higher than modern strange but lower than Shuma Gorath. Around Dormammu tier.
>Other Supes: would be a fucking problen due to how skewed the Marvel Universe is, especially to shit like Krakoa
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>>128256273
>she lifted a magical object of arbitrary and unknowable properties
It’s a snowglobe containing the universe theyre in
That’s the properties
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>>128256273
Calm down autismo. The point of the story was that they were finding impossible tasks for Suprema to do as a reference to that Thor story from the Edas. They put the universe inside a snowglobe to give her something to lift and then freak the fuck out when she actually pulls it off.

>B-B-But muh physics! Muh table!

Magic. Genie. What part of magic don't you understand?
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>>128255965
Stomps a mudhole in krakoa but gets fucked by Top tier magicians
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I don’t understand AT field wank. Literally in the first episode an N2 mine calced at slightly less than 2 gigatons broke an at field and injured the angel

Did they just not watch the show
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>>128244242
For a cold bitch, she's in heat a lot.
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>>128256419
It's because AT fields vary. By a lot.

Take Lilith spreading an AT field across the planet. Just on covering the planet you know DB would come up with some sort of retarded calc for it, even if all it did was pop human fields.
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>>128255775
>Otto supports an incest movie
Gross
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>>128256542
incest is based, sorry your family was ugly
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>>128256463
Even sahaquiel’s AT field only has a 4 gigaton calc, and he’s got one of the stronger AT fields IIRC
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>>128256363
>muh point of everything
Yeah, how's that 'argument' work for Saitama? It's a non-argument for idiot non-thinkers
>muh autism
Sorry you can't into important details, retard
>magic
Exactly my point, and I clearly understand it better than you
Magical object; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties
Magical setting; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties, consequently all 'feats' are interpretive
Your 'argument' absolutely fails to refute this. Try harder
>>128256309
Magical object; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties, as demonstrated right there in the story
Magical setting; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties, consequently all 'feats' are interpretive
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>>128256796
But we know the properties
The universe
If snowglobe break, be the same as break the universe
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>>128256796
>The point of Saitama is that he never loses
You failed basic comprehension.
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>>128256796
You really do have autism, don't you?
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>>128256822
Nope
If it had the properties you say, ie the mass of a universe in a snowglobe, the predictable physical properties says the kitchen table would be crushed and spacetime distorted. These aren't happening, therefore physical properties are not predictable, but arbitrary
Magical object; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties
You will continue to fail to refute this kek
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I can't believe they said Saitama is one of the strongest characters they had on the show.

Not even on the fucking season.
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>>128256861
I demonstrated your retardation already
Suck eggs faggot LMFAO
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>>128256881
Keep crying and stay mad, retard
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>>128256887
>If it had the properties you say, ie the mass of a universe in a snowglobe, the predictable physical properties says the kitchen table would be crushed and spacetime distorted. These aren't happening, therefore physical properties are not predictable, but arbitrary
Universal table since the whole thing is a test made by a being who can contain the weight of the universe in a snowglobe
Basic magic
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>>128256952
>universal table
BWAHAHA-tier nonsense, and Reed Richards would be jealous of your reach
And what of spacetime distortion?
Are you resorting to 'muh magical setting', again?
Magical setting; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties, consequently all 'feats' are interpretive
You have no argument lol
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>>128257007
>The genie can put the universe inside a snow globe, but I refuse he can make it not break a table!
Goddamn you're stupid.
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>>128257007
Well if it’s a snowglobe and not breaking it’s clearly not gonna hurt a table
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>>128257007
Suprema had troule lifting the snow globe
as any superman analoogue she wouldbe able to lift something that would break any table easily
therefore the table must be magic,where would you draw the line anyway, is a building level table ok?
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>>128257007
Yes I'm sure the genie stuffed the universe inside a snow globe for the purpose of giving Suprema something light to lift.

Oh wait. No. That's fucking stupid. You're fucking stupid. Kill yourself.
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>>128257176
But anon! You can't read into that! Something something muh one punch man!
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>>128257176
>>128257163
>>128257044
>>128257023
It’s the Mr Majestic Fag ignore
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>>128257007
>Magical setting; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties, consequently all 'feats' are interpretive
that is not how it should work.
magic is encrypted cheat codes of physics.
Paranormal is arbitrary and unknowable physical properties, consequently all 'feats' are interpretive. it doesn't give a shit about plot, etc.
when you dig into the occult and other shit, magic is nothing more than another way for how shit works. a way that has been hidden from the masses and upheld by "Gods" or ignorance.
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>>128257436
summed: Physics, Magic And Paranormal.
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Who is a good opponent for thicc boi
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>>128256419
Too ez.
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>>128257674
Who fucking cares. EVA is weak as shit.
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>>128257885
It beats gamera
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>>128257674
Whose a monster from a sub-par remake of an anime?
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I'm still on occasion, salty about DIO vs Alucard
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>>128258136
I know, the coping and seething continues to this day.
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>>128258153
It's just so blatantly biased and misinformed how the fuck did swan get away with it?
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>>128257956
Rent free
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>>128258071
That version of zeruel is from the original Eva, otto.
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>>128258178
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>>128258223
Shit. I keep thinking he was new for the remake like Clockiel.
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>>128247237
Dante and Link, at least, handle that shit with ease.
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>>128258172
Swan slept with chad
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>h-heh smt is only city level universal walmarts
>uh lousy saying smt's cosmology >= dc's cosmology doesn't count h-he's not a main researcher because [headcanon]
>u-uh actually constantine doesn't get wanked to presence levels h-he's a bottom tier and uh you'd put the weakest messiah against the most powerful entity in the DC universe if you'd want a fair fight
>u-uh swan saying SMT is outerversal and above even the Beyonder doesn't count because he meant the version no one cares about in powerlevel fights and he d-doesn't hold those beliefs anymore
Why does SMT buckbreak DC so hard bros?
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>>128258396
He slept with a lake?
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>>128256916
I mean maybe he's in the top 80
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>>128258416
Yes
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>>128258237
Obsessed
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>>128244017
>clark was repeatedly raped by men who looked like pic related
Is not fair
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>original animation depicts an explosion that erases a bunch of planets
>western version depicts a meteor obliterating the planets of the solar system very slowly before causing the sun to go supernova to really fucking emphasize the point of its destructive power
>every single guidebook and description claims this is a thing that's actually happening and never states its an illusion
>the only thing supporting it being an illusion is literal headcanon by redditors involving retarded arguments like why can't sephiroth teleport an entire planet like he can with three dudes or why didn't the creators throw all their effort into making the animation into the trash by having every subsequent animation just be a meteor travelling in space for 2 minutes doing absolutely nothing
Has there ever been a greater cope than Supernova not being a supernova
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What would you rather have - Hellboy vs Nero or John Constantine VS Raidou Kuzunoha?
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>>128258644
In a season
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>>128258565
I mean it doesn't do any lasting damage to Cloudworld so yeah it's pretty clearly just a fancy animation like the summons in Golden Sun that can visibly be seen tearing up the overworld (and then the overworld is fine)
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>>128244017
non wanked sailor galaxia can fight AND defeat both dio and saitama
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>>128258397
>SMT
Pathetic
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>>128252357
you're either trolling or mentally ill
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>>128252325
Yujiro is a rapist himself. he is immune to bueno excelente
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>>128258397
Look at what he thinks about base Hal Jordan now compared to Parallax then.

Step to anyone that isn't a conman level magician in DC and SMT gets fraud checked hard.
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>>128258831
Absolutely based.
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>>128244017
bad stomp
madrigals got only roid girl
who is not even cityblock level
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>>128258565
>A dressed up gravity spell that can't kill the party with an animation that includes a fireball that moves slower than Jason and deals 0 damage to Sephiroth
I'm going to bring up FF7's supernova at my next PLC, I think we can save money by using it to diagnose speds instead of an IQ battery.
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>>128258840
>SMT pre modern DB wank is already far above Hal and Parallax
>he's still coping
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>>128244017
who's a good matchup for Genis-Vell?
and why is Monarch his best matchup?
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>>128258873
But universal snowglobe makes sense
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>>128258840
you seem to be under the mistaken impression that Swan will not maximize his wank. he already put SMT above the Beyonder
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>>128258873
>fireball is shown busting every single fucking planet
>B-BUT IT HECKERINO MOVES SLOW
>B-BUT SEPHIROTH ISN'T DAMAGED BY HIS OWN ATTACK
This is more cope than the average Biden voter goes through jesus christ lmao
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>>128258959
And it does nothing
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>>128258959
The fireball doesn't actually reach beyond Earth.

>>128258916
Yes. Because it actually has effects and comments backing up what it is. Meanwhile in the remake, Cloud and friends insta-lose to a nuke level attack implied to be supernova without the pocket dimension.
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>>128258930
>yfw Otto gets his Demifiend vs Spectre fight instead of vs Etrigan or Spawn and Spectre gets scaled to full Presence power
>yfw post wank SMT Demifiend wins anyways
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>>128258916
>universal snowglobe
what?
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>>128258902
>>128258930
>Thinking Swan after discovering multiverse tiering isn't going to destroy SMT
It's entire cosmology can't even be wanked beyond the speed force. Swan is going to have Specter make (insert jumped up twink protag here) kneel before the Lord Thy God.

>>128259004
He already has Supeman as beyond outerversal. SMT is going to go the way of Ben 10.
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>>128258994
>not even close to EoS Cloud loses to a nuke level attack that is implied to be [headcanon]
>this is somehow meant to imply something
Also the comments of "this is actually a real supernova" in every single guidebook and the visual effect of destroying every fucking planet really fucking slowly so you can take the fucking hint doesn't back it up
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>>128259031
>SMT cosmology is equal or greater than FC
>t. Official researcher
Gonna cope about a headcanon of the positions of DB researchers some more bro? Gonna retroactively change your thoughts on the winner of Raidou vs Constantine out of pure butthurt lmao?
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>>128259031
>beyond outerversal.
what the FUCK is this supposed to mean?
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>>128258644
John vs Raidou, by a mile. The other one doesn't even make sense on a thematic level. I've seen that list of connections. It's mostly lies and misinterpretations.
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>>128259054
the backlash with the supernova attack is not arbitrary or some kind of downplaying whim, at least for most of the detractors. it has more to do with the sudden escalation of power than simply lowballing the verse
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>>128259031
The specter can't kill a human clown though
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>>128258908
Guy Gardner?
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>>128259113
Apparently below these russian homosexuals
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>gets mogged by most Godzilla’s
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>>128259186
Is he still smaller than 1954 or did he grew up?
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>>128259196
From 45m to 100m. He's still ugly as sin though. Is this the only way they can make their Godzilla stand out these days?
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>>128259222
Toho doesn’t have any idea what they’re doing. Anno is the only reason shin was any good. Anything Toho does without anyone else’s input is garbage nowadays
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>>128259081
Just Final Crisis?
Oh man. Specter really is going to Tonka Saw Stephen.
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>the US makes the most popular Godzilla in the world
>Toho responds with several ugly ass designs
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>>128259241
They just loan the IP to third party and let them do whatever they want. There aren't any people who are directly connected with the franchise like in the old days. They just let Americans make movies and anime studios make their thing while they think of new ideas like that ride or the theme park.
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>>128258994
It can’t even break a table let alone the planet
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>>128259015
It's storytime!
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>>128259286
That's a lot of fish
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>>128259288
That explains a lot
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>>128258397
Dude, SMT's version of Susanoo can't even fraudcheck it's own match-up go on somewhere
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>>128259286
And yet, said designs are infinitely more kino than MV Godzilla.
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>>128258397
>SMT buckbreaking anyone
Yeah sure buddy, stick with DC's magic conman, even that is probably a stretch.
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>>128259303
She’s cute
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>>128259186
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>128259368
You shut your whore mouth
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>>128244017
>another /co/mfy thread ruined by otto, otto's disciples, and otto's detractors (whom may or may not be otto's disciples in disguise)
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>>128259408
>I-if I laugh at him it means I win!
The state of ultimafag
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>>128259416
MV Godzilla is a weak design compared to the other designs of the character.
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>>128259368
They're just ugly and have weird proportions. If they started with that it wouldn't have become such an eternal classic for all time. Experimenting with the design is fine but it will never become the new standard.
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>>128259427
>Storytime isn’t comfy
What’s your deal
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>>128259441
By what standards? He’s incredibly popular, even Tohokingdom with their hateboner for gaijin ranked it as the 3rd best design
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>>128259437
>Ultima is LITERALLY stronger
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>>128259427
Shut up fag, Otto just did a comfy storytime.
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>>128259448
>ottoposting
>/co/mfy
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>>128259458
My standards.
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>>128259449
>The erosions of billenia happened in seconds!
>Working against the awesome power of time itself!
Is this more impressive than the snowglobe?
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>>128259466
You rely on statements and theoreticals, even MonsterVerse Godzilla is a lot stronger based on actual feats, including his red dust storm creation
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>>128259487
Jiren level
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>>128259449
you need to ask so many questions about this stupid nonsense that you might as well not use it in a debate
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>>128259499
What questions? It's all there for you in black and white.
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>>128259491
Same shit goes for Heisei Godzilla if that's the case.
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>>128259499
>NO I DON'T BELIEVE IT! SUPREMA CAN'T BE THIS POWERFUL, SHE CAN'T!
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>>128259449
Supreme and Suprema confirmed for faster than time and stronger than universes.
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>>128247237
I feel like Humans wouldn't survive without coming in with max gear, and even then its iffy. Dante probably clears it easily, Link/Geralt have fighting experience/magic on their side so they probably have a really good chance. The Alien I honestly can't say. Mabye that specific Alien won't survive, but if it can get one of the old one's as a host for its children we're gonna see a really powerful Alien.
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>>128259559
Poor Goku
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>>128259514
what are the physics of lifting a snowglobe sized universe from the outside without it affecting the sector of space we're privy to? just what in the hell was that snowglobe made of? and the table it was on?
>>128259538
histrionics won't help you either
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>>128259587
>just what in the hell was that snowglobe made of? and the table it was on?
Magic
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>>128259081
I don’t think you get it.

Swan still thinks that Superman is legitimately limitless. This isn’t a joke. Swan thinks that Superman is actually unbeatable and can do whatever he wants.
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>>128259598
doesn't work for me, brother
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>>128259620
A magic genie made the test, that’s just what happened, it’s like comparing about the so cold it makes stars freeze thing
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>>128259618
Superman has never lifted a material infinity, only metaphorical ones
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>>128259633
I did read the scans. I'm not not convinced. if death battle uses it that's fair enough but i still won't stand by it just like i don't personally stand by universal hulk and gorillions FTL Thor. in this world there's three sides to every power scale: your headcanon, death battle's headcanon and the truth.
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>>128255775
>11/12 year olds

Damn having to listen to whatever shit they talk about must be exhausting.

Anyway ice cream time
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>>128259667
>i still won't stand by it just like i don't personally stand by universal hulk and gorillions FTL Thor. in this world there's three sides to every power scale: your headcanon, death battle's headcanon and the truth.
It’s a snowglobe as heavy as the universe for an impossible test deal with it
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>>128259639
Superman lifted every story that has ever existed, I.e. fiction.

It was an allegory for something else. And Swan still believes it’s actual infinity. No amount of coping will change that.
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>>128256558
Go back to lusting over the rat man with Otto
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>>128259618
Honestly swan looks better without the mustache
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>>128244017
Post YFW Luisa cracks a crick in her neck, reloads her biceps Henry Cavill style, and has her "world of cardboard" speech against Mr. Incredible.
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>>128259697
you've said this. i read the pages, i know the premise of the feat. if you explain it again i'll assume you're mentally handicapped
>>128259709
i'm just telling it like it is, anon. there was nothing material in limbo, Atlas's burden was metaphorical by what's shown on panel and elaborated on by WoG and "eternity" is not a unit of mass, and he didn't lift the Spectre anyway
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>>128259782
Just trying to help a windowlicker who can’t handle universal Suprema
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>A mall is supposed to be outerversal? Don't speak such foolishness in DOOM'S presence
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>>128259794
"can't handle"?
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>we can predict the outcomes of death battles simply by watching what swan says
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>>128244017
Everyone saying the Madrigals will get their shit stomped in are failing to consider a few things. Let's see..

if Julieta already has a meal prepared, that's a huge advantage. If not, how fast can she whip up something edible? We also don't know the extent of her ability: can it raise the recently fallen? Can Mirabel raise her to greater heights? Could definitely turn the tide to help someone like Luisa get back in the fight if they're not completely annihilated.

Pepa could be very powerful if she can control her power, much like Storm from X-Men. Otherwise could do more harm than good.

Bruno could, if given a minute, predict a win-scenario or help the family avoid a losing one.

Camilo unless he has some sort of gorilla or jaguar form up his sleeve isn't going to be much help unless the Incredibles are seperated at some point and he can infiltrate and mislead or assassinate one of them.

Dolores is absolutely vital for intelligence gathering in this scenario, as she can detect their presence on the island (negating Violet's invisibility), hear their plans and help coordinate against them.

Antonio can likewise have animal spies maintain visual and harry them with attacks and swarms.

Isabella with her full powers awakened can summon thorn walls and cactus fields to hamper the speedster and maybe even elastigirl with some strangling vines.

Luisa is a brick on par with Bob at the very least. Not much else to be said here.

They have the Intelligence and Numbers advantage as well as multiple ways to negate the opposing family's powers. Assuming La Casa Madrigal is there too, and can form itself into fortifications to protect the candle and its keeper, and assuming the Family Madrigal is at full confidence, love, hope, teamwork status, they have a pretty diverse set of powers to work with. The downside being the Madrigals only have one person on their side with more-than-human durability whereas the Parrs have Bob and Helen as well as Violet's shield.
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>>128259833
... as soon as I posted this I realized I completely forgot Jack-Jack existed. He's definitely an ace up their sleeve.
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>>128259810
Clearly, you’re mindbroken over this shit
>>128259833
Depends on how literal moving mountains is
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>>128259833
How will they deal with the giant robot?
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>solos both families, and THEN kills Elsa for being overrated/Frozen being more popular than Coco
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>>128259798
Wouldn't want to upset the high cuck of Shartveria lmao
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>>128259878
mindbroken how?
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>>128259908
merely a doombot disguised as Johnny Storm

Once again Doom prevails over his detractors
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>>128259908
why is everything pertaining to the F4 so full of NTR?
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>>128259895
Loses to Rikochet
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>>128259824
Yes
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>>128259908
HEHEHEHEHE
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>>128244017
Fuck those spics. Incredibles takes it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWtRUzOyoKQ
Can I tell you something?
This fight is inexplicably hilarious to watch and I don't know why. Is it the sudden movements?
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>>128259924
You’re spasming over magic
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>>128259824
>swan considers metaphors to be real applicable feats
Can't wait till they put 2hu characters!
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>>128259824
It worked for Dio vs Alucard, and to an extent for Mickey vs Yoda.
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>>128260092
spasming how?
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>>128260137
>Muh physics
Spazzing
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>>128259878
admittedly we don't have much to go on but if "I'm as tough as the crust of the earth is", "got a rough indestructible surface" isn't bluster I'd say she's pretty tough.
She does casually toss and tank a boulder to the head. Bob isn't impervious, he's imperiled a few times in the two movies. He may have the greater feat of strength if we just go by what's seen.

>>128259889
I didn't see the robot mentioned but: combo of Pepa's storms, Isabella's plants can infiltrate its systems and fuck shit up, and Luisa will have to step up as usual.
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>>128244017
Metro Man makes more sense for Me Incredible.
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>>128260234
She mentions the mountains stuff outside the song though
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>>128250841
among others
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>>128260779
Among
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>>128259175
God I wish that were me
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>>128259271
Are you really making references to ancient Guntstream drama?
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>>128247324
Which makes him, what, 1-2? He got beat by Iron Man and utterly raped by Spider-Man. Deathstroke lost to Deadpool too. DC doesn't always win v Marvel, infact it's pretty close to 50/50 at this point (anyone have the exact tally?)
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>>128260346
Metro Man vs Zhongli from Genshin Impact makes more sense
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>>128261057
1-3 actually, he lost to BP
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>>128258831
>thinking Bueno is but a simple rapist
As we've seen these last several years, nothing is stronger than the power of perversion. Certainly no other force in comics seems to compare
I hope Yujiro isn't scared?
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>>128261087
That’s a fucking horrible matchup and that thumbnail looks like shit too.

One quick reverse image search:
>https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathBattleMatchups/comments/r6tdw0/metro_man_vs_zhongli_megamind_vs_genshin_impact/

OF COURSE it’s Reddit. Nobody else thinks of this type of shit. Go back.
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>>128261193
>checks his profile
>he’s a futa fag
KEK
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>>128257436
Magic is a battle of wills, where perception and reality are joined and equally mutable for the one under the spell. Breaking the spell, and thus passing a magical test, is generally an act of will, to either see through the illusion, or just be too damn stubborn
This is the way it's always been. Thus, any 'feats' in a magical setting are subject to interpretation. I believe we've been over this several times with universal mirrors, angry suns, and twink carrying the weight of the cosmos on their backs
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>>128261160
Yujiro's already done his PP training with every animal.
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>>128257023
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>>128257324
>duurrrrr u am stoopid
As I said, emotional girls with no argument
Stay assmad kek
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>>128261388
It be magic Anon. Suprema is universal
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>>128259564
Geralt's signs are just shit-tier parlor tricks that barely work on mindless animals and drunks, no way anything worth a damn in Bloodborne would be seriously affected by shit like igni or quen. His entire gimmick is that he's basically medieval batman and preps ahead of time and then ganks his enemies, he isn't going to get far when he's running blind and doesn't know anything about the monsters. He'd be lucky to even reach the Cleric Beast.
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>>128260094
>swan considers metaphors to be real applicable feats
Great, that mean he will take all the songs in Encanto literally, Luisa can move mountains, break icebergs, beat Cerberus, and fly. Mirabel can take on Dash because she slowed down time during her song. The Madrigals got this.
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>>128261193
I have no idea why the love their instagram filters so much. They universally look horrible. I think it's a place full of actual, literal children and teenagers.
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>>128252545
>>128252474
/lit/ is a single Harry Potter cosplayer sitting in a car in the parking lot outside of the pool.
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>>128259618
Anyone who can emit Red Sun radiation, has special senses to allow them to intuit the weakness, and has the speed and durability to make the fight last long enough for the weakness to take hold can beat Superman. Marvel is full of guys who meet this criteria (Silver Surfer, Captain Marvel, Nova, Quasar) so I'm not sure why they haven't done it. Red sun radiation is how the Russians were able to take him, after all. If some regular jackoff Russians can use red sun radiation to make Superman their bitch I don't get why DB doesn't take a crack at it.
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>>128261344
Bueno has perverted demons and elder monstrosities. Even the power of a Green Lantern was no match for him
A mere ogre? Little more than a box of creampuffs and a tube of toothpaste to Bueno
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>>128259709
>Superman lifted every story that has ever existed, I.e. fiction.

no he didn't, it only happened in DC, they don't have the power to write the canon of other series throughout history.

Doesn't fucking count.
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>>128261660
>Anyone who can emit Red Sun radiation, has special senses to allow them to intuit the weakness, and has the speed and durability to make the fight last long enough for the weakness to take hold can beat Superman. Marvel is full of guys who meet this criteria (Silver Surfer, Captain Marvel, Nova, Quasar) so I'm not sure why they haven't done it.
Solar reserves and generally faster than everyone besides maybe Surfer, love Wendell but he’s not known for his speed
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>>128261705
>i-it didn't happen cause I just say so ok!
Classic cope and seethe
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>>128261665
he roofied Kyle, and Yuujiro is more powerful than Mandrakk
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>>128261760
cope with what and seethe about what
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>>128261542
Kek
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>>128261705
>no he didn't, it only happened in DC, they don't have the power to write the canon of other series throughout history.
>Doesn't fucking count.
WB
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>>128261772
>he [headcanon]
So much coping. Am I amongst literal manlets?
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>>128261796
Your denial lol
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>>128261818
what the fuck are you talking about? and quit using random buzzwords, tourist
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>>128261815
All of capeshit, at least. Definitely everything after that involves power levels, as well
An absolutely anything claiming to beat him kek
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>>128261815
>>128261887
DC has no sway over non DC properties lest those properties agree to become a part of DC. DC isn't any more all-encompassing over fiction than Dr Who and Marvel are
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>>128261850
Oh sure, the lightweight twink 'had his drink spiked' lol Kyle can't hold his alcohol any better than I imagine your 4 foot frame can, manlet
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>>128261932
>DC has no sway over non DC properties lest those properties agree to become a part of DC. DC isn't any more all-encompassing over fiction than Dr Who and Marvel are
WB and DC share a cosmogony as seen with space jam
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>>128261950
>DC is literally fake even within fiction
DCbros... not like this...
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>>128261932
>sway
Nah, shitter, all those stories owe a debt to Superman being the first and best and not only carrying them all but allowing them to exist in the first place
Cope and seethe
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>>128261991
Heracles, Doc Savage, John Carter
this reads like demented pilpul, which isn't surprising considering Superman is a jewish power fantasy. it even checks out with Otto being a clueless dumbass boomer mindlessly supporting and embellishing him
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>>128261048
The Tonka Saw saga was kino, don't act like it wasn't. It was one of Jim's best videos.

>>128261330
>Equally mutable
You know nothing of magic. Magic circles? Consecrated ground? Hello? Hellooooo? The privileging of the supernatural over the natural is kind of the point.
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>>128261660
It works so long as they aren't fighting an insane Superman not holding back who will speed stomp them before they even figure out what to do.

That's the problem. With characterization on, yeah, Silver Surfer and Quasar would totally beat Superman and maybe Richie because the worldmind would tell him what to do (Carol's cosmic awareness would tell her nothing about the red sun weakness).

>>128262060
>Heracles
>Before Tarzan and Hugo Danner
Do you even Superman?
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>>128262144
>Tarzan and Hugo Danner
you got me there. what about Samson? it's interesting to draw certain parallels
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>>128261850
>>128261946
Let's be real, Kyle was asking for it. Getting a drink in Gotham in the kind of bars Bueno Excellente frequents dressed like that, he knew what was going on...
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>>128262171
I'd pick Moses before Samson, though there's certainly a little Samson in how Silver Age Superman interacted with Lois.
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>>128249499
batman would no longer be an anal virgin
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>>128262060
Nietzsche, but schuster made
him lex luther and inverted evil and good
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>>128262303
I vividly remember Bruce becoming a groupie for a pastiche of a real rockstar at some point so he's likely not a virgin by now
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>>128244017
Off topic question
If you were a russian guard, and you saw superman blindfolded and with earplugs ,and there were no other soul but you, would you do it? Y'know, play with him?
Me? I would do it without hesitation.
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>>128262362
i'd make sure he remains unblemished and unspoiled. it's the sole province of subhumans to treat prisoners in this fashion
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>>128244039
Neither of which are in the OP or mentioned anywhere in the thread until you did
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>>128262174
>>128261946
>>128262174
is Kyle supposed to be a delicate pretty boy kind of guy? I never really got that vibe from him
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>>128262478
He's the twink of the 4 corpsman, being a doodling weeb next to test pilot Hal, marine sniper John, and meathead Guy.
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>>128262504
you're telling me my favorite lantern is not only a twink, not only half irish and half mexican, but he's also had greasy latinx sex offender semen in his innards?
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>>128262391
+1 for observational skills
Thor got his ass kicked by Superman
Problem?
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>>128262504
Hal had sex with Constantine
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>>128262384
Funny cw facts: female guards are the most often abusers of prisoners, by a dozen miles
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>>128262645
what is it about DC superheroes and sodomy?
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>>128262645
It's not gay if you top. Everyone knows that.
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>>128262722
So Superman has a straight son?
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>>128262722
Do gays?
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>>128262722
so Clark and Kyle (and potentially Bruce) are gay?
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>>128262734
>Implying Jon tops
He's too much of a failure.
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>>128262743
I know it's weird but the only straight character is Wonder Woman. Talk about subverting expectations...
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>>128262747
What makes you so sure Hal tops
Have you seen his ass
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>>128262766
she's received dick, therefore she is a homosexual man. but she likely dominates her fellow females so she's a heterosexual woman? what the fuck?
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>>128262780
Those are forward thrusting muscles, anon
Hal's practically thrusting 24/7
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>>128244017
Bruno already knows the outcome
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>>128262810
he regularly got sandwiched between Sinestro and Kilowog
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>>128262851
You mean Branwilla? Kilowog wasn't a thing for about two decades after Sinestro's banishment
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>>128244017
Speaking of homosexuality, how come lex + clark= connor (straight as an arrow), but clark + lois=jon (bottom to a pink haired sjw)?
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>>128262929
what makes you think this doesn't implicate the sinestro corps?
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>>128262955
true to his jewish self, Clark has weak genes
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The fuck is going on here
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>>128262955
because lex is the übermensch
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>>128259222
Ultima looks badass though
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>>128262955
Lex is the straightest man around
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>>128263059
how many men has Lex cream pied? zero. he's not straight
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>>128262959
>the anxiety corps
>ever getting it up
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>>128263021
When otto appears, everyone lets out their degenerate selves
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>>128263021
DC is the home of gay pride now, get with the times
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>>128263123
they're the receptive partners
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>>128263166
>/co/ is the vector of faggot pride
ftfy
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Superman says TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS
Superman says BLACK LIVES MATTER
Superman says BELIVE ALL WOMEN
Superman says MY SON IS GAY
Superman says LEGALIZE GAY MARRIAGE AND ADOPTION
Superman says HORMONE BLOCKERS FOR INFANTS
Superman says THE CHILD CAN CONSENT
Superman says THE DOG CAN CONSENT
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>>128244017
why is the joker alive again?
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>>128249499
>>128252325
Because we are talking about gay rapists, can Prisoner beat Yujiro? Prisoner would be really mad at him, for how many men he has beaten up.
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>>128263317
To sell comics
This is his turn from heal to face, in current year
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>>128263333
Yujiro is Popeye level in base and Bugs Bunny+++ level when he's trying and Beyonder+ level with demon back
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>>128263357
>statements
This is how fraudchecks happen lol
I support this
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>>128263392
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>>128263402
Yujiro's spent time in American prison, I see
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>>128263392
>Statements
It's memeforce.
Yujiro basically runs on toon physics sometimes.
See all the crazy shit the other characters in Baki do?
Yujiro can also do that but better.
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>>128263876
what the fuck...
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>>128263357
>>128263392
Yujiro is just Saitama before Saitama. A man stronger than anybody else in his series, but weak in the grand scheme of fiction, memed to be greater then anything they ever did. Saitama would get beat by half of the characters that appeared in Death Battle, Yujiro would lose to Prisoner. Let alone any of the characters people want him to fight in Death Battle.
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>>128263939
Yujiro is way too strong for Saitama. He'd access the speedforce as a side effect of getting struck by lightning
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>>128244017
Yeah thor has this...
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>>128263939
Yujiro is also way, way better.
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>>128263876
>memeforce
Yes, the setup for a fraucheck
Memeforce is the embodiment of the saying 'a lie can travel across the whole world before the truth can get out of bed'
However, when faced with the power of the truth, memeforce evaporates, itself proven nothing more than a meme
See: Goku vs Superman, Ben vs Green Lantern, Kirby vs Buu, Archie Sonic vs Wally, etc. All memeforce users get checked
And I support this
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>>128264151
memetic engines are true. you need some more testosterone. otherwise you wouldn't make such ridiculous posts.
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>>128264151
Memeforce would be Kirby dying
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>>128263357
Yujiro is weird because it's kind of apparent you had him play by the ruleset of most other shonen, he'd fucking shred through them as easily as Baki.
This is a guy who can cause a city block sized shockwave through flexing his muscles. Not even "Spirit energy." I mean the sheer force of his flex.
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>>128249047
The CHAD CHADseid
The Virgin von Doom
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>>128264151
>fraucheck
If Yujiro lost his fight in DB, would there be real salt like Ben vs Green Lantern, or fake salt that these threads had like Saitama vs Popeye
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>>128264429
None at all
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>>128264429
Also, why was Ben vs Hal even debated. We KNOW that Celestialsapiens are weak as fuck
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>>128263275
>>128263166
>>128262981
Tr/a/nime says SUPERMAN LIVES IN MY HEAD RENT FREE
L/a/tinx says MY THIRD WORLD PSYCHE IS PERMANENTLY SCARRED BY SUPERCHAD'S OUTERVERSAL POWER
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>>128264429
not really, Bakifag autism is NOTHING compared to Ben 10 and DBZ autism
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>>128264429
Real salt like DIO vs. Alucope.
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>>128264491
One headshot
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>>128264265
Kirby has since become the meme to be checked
Soon
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>>128264469
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>>128264491
>real salt like this matchup with no backlash
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>>128264604
Soon, the Prince of All Cosmos will rip his pink tuckus to shreds
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>>128256916
They were just softening the blow for Saitamafags, they said something similar for Alien X
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>>128264660
Except in AX's case they weren't too far off. As much shit as he gets, he's pretty god damn powerful.
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>>128258644
Constantine VS Raidou without a doubt, Hellboy's match is with Alucard
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>>128264612
Why do you think the faggots had to invade everything?
They're all too mindbroken to even conceive of any sort of equally or greater opposing concepts - they have to become what they hate to take it's power because they have none lol
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>>128264706
I dunno
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>>128264727
No shit?
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>>128259995
Wins against Randy Cunningham
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>>128264696
>Flying brick with minimal reality warping
>Only universal
Sure buddy
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>>128264646
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwmDUVxBxA0
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>>128264813
Yeah, I mean what I said
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>>128264235
>displaying blatant emotional needs
>testosterone
Protest more, woman. It invigorates me
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>>128264824
Toonforce users go 3-0 if this fight happens
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>>128264813
How many characters on this show are universe level by their sayings?
>Superman
>Flash
>GL
>AX
>Hulk
>Broly
I don't know anything else.
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>>128265007
You forgot Booster Gold
lol
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>>128264706
Gays are 1 dimensional humans. Gay is the only thing they have in their lives. So when they write something, they do everything in their power to make it about gay issues. Hence why they cling so religiously to fiction constructed by straight (men).
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>>128265058
they didn't give him a universal rating
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>>128265091
Eh
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>>128265140
Are you gay?
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>>128265134
Force field's power output, blocking Superman, GL, Lobo, Doomsday, and tanking universal destruction
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>>128264904
>projecting after being backed into a corner and becoming moist by Yuujiro Hanma
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>>128257956
Yeah no
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>>128264901
>Wario, Dracula, Star, Mega Man.EXE
>All put at universal, same as Alien X
>Sailor Galaxia, DBS cast, DC heralds, Marvel heralds, Archie Sonic, King Dedede
>All put at multiversal, over Alien X
>Superman, Chuck Norris, Segata Sanshiro, Popeye
>All put at infinite/immeasurable, who were we talking about again?
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>>128265455
And?
That’s a pretty small amount of characters
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It’s always the guy you’re rooting for that loses
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>>128266033
You rooted for Korra?
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>>128266033
Sounds like pleb problems. Almost every single db I've had actual preference for a character has been the winner.
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You want salt and cope? Here's the fight for you.
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>>128266192
this'll probably generate a little bit too.
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>>128266192
We all know Simon dies
>>128266200
I see no reason to care
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>>128266200
that's a pretty nice template
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Send Kratos to the oxygen club.
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>>128266192
how is Simon supposed to counter the highballed size of the DC universe?
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>>128266295
Swan seems to believe in multiversal Kratos, what can the guy on the right do?
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>>128266263
>We all know Simon dies
Yeah but the normalfag anime sphere as well as the battleboard community like plebbit, comicvine and the vswiki usually go for Simon. That's why there's potential for salt either way.

>>128266314
He's not. That DC scaling makes this a no brainer for Kyle if they both just use their most straightforward attacks. But that doesn't even matter, Kyle has the capability to teleport to Simon inside and 1 shot him and there's nothing at all Simon could do about it.
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>>128266314

It takes less than a minute for Simon to will himself to multiverse size
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>>128266481
Frankly, this isn’t like Ben vs Hal.
Both are just going to keep out willpowering each other
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>>128266389
Firstly?
Be in a worse game.
Secondly?
Be way more powerful
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>>128266389
Has comparable showings to Kratos but over even more pantheons. Titan Quest went a little retarded with the sheer number of mythological figures you fuck up
>singlehandedly invaded Asgard and won
>beat Odin, Thor, Baldr and Freyja 1v4. Baldr died in the fight.
>beat Mimir
>beat the frost giant king
>beat Loki and killed Surtr.
>killed Nidhogg
>killed 10 actual stars from chinese myth
>beat the Dragon King and the chinese archer god
>the Jade Emperor didn't want to fight him
>killed Akhenaten empowered by some gods
>killed the Lernean Hydra
>killed Typhon and later permakilled his soul
>beat Hades and permakilled his soul.
>killed 5 other beings on par with the Olympians
>killed Tartarus
>Killed the typical mythological characters like the 3 gorgons, the minotaur, Cerebus, charon the boat ferryman
>killed Tiamat
>prevented like 5 separate apocalypses
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>>128266973
This nigga is going to shred Kratos
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>>128266973
killing gods is a meme because not all fictional depictions of the gods are cut from the same cloth, and Kratos has multiversal wank
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>>128267189
So does this guy if you accept the myths that go along with the gods. Exact same way Kratos got wanked.
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>>128267239
Kratos has wankers doubling down with flowery novels and asking former devs loaded questions that boil down to "can Kratos do X?" and being answered with "yeah"
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>>128266398
>plebbit, comicvine and the vswiki
Don't project your own level of stupidity now
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>>128266481
>taking a whole minute to do something
>when fighting a Green "1.04 × 10^92 times light speed" Lantern
I shiggy diggy
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>>128267314
>project
I'm not projecting anything retard. I'm just saying what Death Battle has gone and will go by.
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>>128267315
>1.04 × 10^92 times light speed
is this from probing the universe?
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>>128267344
Yes and that's not even the fastest you can wank GLs.
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>>128267383
what's the fastest? transtime velocity scaling off Hal making sneedforce anomalies?
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>>128267400
This
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/125398631/#125425023
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>>128267400
>Green Lantern Vol 2 #63 September 1968
>Hal Jordan searches the entire volume of the universe in a heartbeat (0.6 seconds) with 4 probes
>The universe expanded to 60 trillion light years in half a second, or 120 trillion light years in a second
>31536000 seconds in a year, 13.772 billion years since the Big Bang, meaning the DC Universe is at least 4.3431379e+17 seconds old
>The DC Universe expanded 120 trillion light years each of those seconds, so the DC Universe is at least 5.2117655e+31 light years in radius.
>If we assume that the DC Universe is a sphere, that means that it’s 5.93e+95 light years in volume
>Hal searched this entire volume in 0.6 seconds with his constructs, which is 7.8e+102 (7.8 tretrigintillion) times the speed of light for each individual probe
> 7.8 TRETRIGINTILLION (MORE THAN A GOOGOL) TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT IN 1968

>>128267460
and this is 50 zeroes faster than what I put above lmao
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>>128267582
>>128267460
>>128267315
ebin
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>>128267582
That universe size alone is going to net any DC herald a victory isn’t it?
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>>128267670
From the horses mouth.
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>>128267670
The moment they included it in Goku Black vs Reverse Flash, anyone that's not a direct counter to their power automatically lost their match with a high tier DC character.
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>>128267802
who's that flamey guy going off about this pseudo science?
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>>128268019
Superman. That's what he sometimes looks like after being in a star
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>>128268019
Who the fuck do you think that looks like?
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>>128267582
in a heartbeat? whose heartbeats? Hal's? clearly this is a googolplex of googolplexes of zeroes, chud. stop lowballing Hal.
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>>128268162
Hell maybe it never beats.
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>>128267802
i don't get it. it's been a while so my memory's hazy but didn't they combine the actual big bang with the imperiex big bang to make a souped up version of the already colossal big bang?
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>>128268197
Also doesn’t the universe slow down?
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>>128267331
Just like they went by Thor's stats?
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>>128268240
it does slow down to about light speed eventually. the calcs need to be revised if this was omitted
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>>128268240
>>128268265
Depends on what universe model is correct. It might even be expanding faster.
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>>128268247
who cares about thor lmao?
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>>128268300
seems irrational to assume the expansion is accelerating from that initial point, no?
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>>128268327
There's a decent chance our universe is doing exactly that.
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>>128268372
what's the most commonly accepted model? our universe also doesn't take that insane initial expansion into account
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>>128268393
That one mentioned, of increasing expansion due to weaker gravity influence over the distance, ontop of dark energy acting to push things away from one another. Has been the most favoured since the later 90s. It's likely to tear the universe apart eventually.

After that it's probably the "flat" universe which is of a slowing down due to gravity, then eventually a rapid increase again when dark energy comes out on top of gravity.

Then stuff like a big crunch where gravity wins out and slows down the universe, which is them pulled together faster and faster.
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>>128265232
>displaying blatant emotional needs
>projecting
lol
lmao
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>>128266033
Who roots?
Are you fucking swine?
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>>128268632
ah. so the acceleration is increasing but the expansion rate is decreasing? it's only logical for a 3D plane
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>>128266877
If Kyle's got the white ring, we're talking straight up life force shenanigans on top of willpower hax
Kyle becomes essentially god, relatively. I don't see what Simon can do to or about that
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>>128258397
>smt is only city level universal walmarts
it is shitposting, anon.
the last sector is primal earth. if we use the same logic they used for walmart then the last sector is earth size and other sectors are not there because each of them are in different dimensions. kind of like Asgard and mephisto's realms
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>>128267582
>it did this
was it shown?
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>>128269406
yes
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>>128269443
i doubt it. post it
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>>128269452
The probe thing? It's in the death battle cast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQujpsgd428

I don't have the scans on me right now.
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>>128269452
Are you new here?
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>>128269474
>34:14
cool, cool, cool
but the drones were SHOWN travelling acroos all the universe.
bear in mind if they didn't, then they are fraud checked.
there are a lot of characters with claims of shaking universes or controlling universes but they are not considered universal because we never seen the whole universes being shaken or manipulated. but when we do see planets or x being manipulated so we put them in planetary/x tier.
it would be a hipocrisy not to fraud check the drones.
>>128269588
i don't see the whole universe there. so no.
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>>128269624
says right there there's lanterns throughout the universe and the SOS was meant to reach them all
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>>128269624
>i don't see the whole universe there. so no.
You want them to depict the entire universe in a mostly irrelevant panel like that from the 60s that's just meant to convey a little bit of info? Are you retarded?
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>>128269649
>say
I don't want claims or hyperboles. I want feats.
anyone can claim universal scales. just look at weeb shit (naruto, dbz, bleach).
claims mean nothing
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>>128269678
Nooo, Stop fraud-checking large scales: the post
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>>128269679
>I want feats.
It shows you them on the page and says what they do, then provides a result of them being used. Stop with the baiting.
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>>128269702
>bait
nice strawman
>It shows you them (feats) on the page and says what they do, then provides a result of them being used
You could argue the same for basically your favorite comic, cartoon, whatever. it doesn't mean it is right. it shows no feats. it shows a statement and a localized drone.
I'm giving you two options here:
the acceptance of hyperboles (what you are doing) or fraud-checking them (what I prefer).
I won't accept anything else.
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>>128269775
bait
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>>128269791
>a worthless reply
i accept your concession
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>>128269775
>>128269699
>fraud checked
>was used in a death battle
lol
lmao
get rekt kid



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