>zero prep time>no knowledge of opposing family's abilities>battle fought on large uninhabited tropical island>no knowledge of opposing family's location on the islandWho takes it /co/?
Superman beats Thor's ASS
>>128244017The Incredibles know how to fight.
>>128244017Oh good, more Encantx shilling, now in Deathbattle form.
The Madrigals have superior numbers, 12 to 5 if we are counting the unpowered Madrigals, which I would since Mirabel clearly enhances her family's powers so I'd give it to them solely on the numbers.
>>128244017jack-jack would mog solo
>>128244017Frozone or no?
>bonus round>could either side defeat her?
>>128244237I'd say no since he's not part of their "family" although he could totally change the outcome.
>>128244017The encantos are completely screwed EXCEPT if that weather chick gets too agitated and causes an acid rain apocalypse somethingThen they might have a chance
>>128244336u forget the mom can instaheal injuries with food, if she makes them some cookies, that's like fucking senzu beans, the incredibles are FINISHED
>>128244017The Parrs probably win, since they have actual combat experience. And the Madrigals don't have their own speedster to counter Dash. Even if we be generous and say Luisa stalemates Bob, that's still 3 superheros with actual experience in fighting against a bunch of non-combatants that never ever had to apply their powers to combat before.
>>128244242this bitch fucking solos both of them
>>128244017who's the strongest Superman pastiche, evil or otherwise?
stats aside, what are their wincons?
>>128244017Typical white American/Latin American interactions, the gringos beat them down, but then feel kinda bad about them, let them stay. Mirabel is hired as the Parr's new babysitter, ends up sleeping with Bob and making him divorce Helen and marry her for that green card.The usual stuff.>>128244242She becomes Frozone II or Frozone Girl. Mainly because I want to see her in the suit.
>>128244242Violet and Dash team up to take her out. Dash can move faster than she can react and Violet's force fields can block her ice and snow.
>>128245977Vegeta depowers Thor into not-Billy Batson and gibs himThor uhhhhhh offers to fuck Bejitaa's wife forcing him to kneel
>>128246238King Thor can drain Galactus dry
>>128246238Thor can absorb blasts and return them tenfold or a hundredfold and drain the energy off people. Vegeta has no means of depowering Thor into Donald Blake because Donald Blake hasn't been Thor's alter ego for quite a long while, and he also has no ability that would let him do that. Vegeta's wincons are being worthy (unlikely) and screwjob (likely)
/co/ what do you think about the last death battle cast Ash vs Yugi? Did they make justice for both character?
>>128246335they make Yugi 8th dimensional thanks to GX bullshit
he'd win the non DC Superman ripoff battle royale, wouldn't he?
>>128246507Supreme or Samaritan have decent shots
>>128244017I hate it when you pit characters who aren't able to fight against characters who are
>>128245939You just posted 'em
>>128244017They all /ss/ with dash
This was an awful OP
>>128246507Sentry is stronger
>>128246599he's much more thematic than Sentry. remember when Hawkeye called the League a bunch of Squadron Supreme wannabes?
>>128245977wincons? inconclusive wins or win conditions?
>>128246627it's generally understood to be the latter
who takes this?
>>128246513I don't think they can counter mjolnir speed scaling
This guy has some of the highest endurance I've ever seen in vidya storylines. There's a difference between endurance and durability though.>A grenade goes off in his face after he gets his shit kicked in by a monster who's over 5 meters tall.>He survives this and proceeds to run across an entire fucking city and beats the shit out of 6 people, all while covered with gaping wounds>He then travels nearly nonstop to the end of Chile in around a couple of hours, not even stopping to treat his wounds, and is constantly fighting stuffThat's just the first game. In the second game, he gets the pain of having your chest torn open reflected onto him, and the most it does is make him limp and breath heavily.
>>128246726not sure Ray can do much against Hank growing eternity sized
>>128246726Atom through DIALS
>>128246757We're JUST using Ant Man. No growing beyond normal size.
>>128246764dials didn't help Lobo, Luthor and Bats
There's always that one guy who beats around the bush unless it suits his narrative.>Character performs an explicit light speed attack>N-No he's not doing lightspeed, we don't know enough!>Oh and by the way this guy is MFTL because of scaling to an offscreen feat.
>>128244017The madrigals have the numbers, but their powers are mostly utility based as opposed to the incredibles combat based powers. If you gave the madigrals prep time they might be able to win by coordinating their powers tactically (super hearing chick specifically listens for violet and her sister impales the general location with thorns, the mom heals all injuries with food etc) but the incredibles should take any no prep match due to more experience and having more useful powers. 1/10 for madrigals without prep, 5/10 with prep.
>>128246873Madrigals feel like they would whip Incredibles if they had their combat experience- just the grandkids alone would be a crazy effective hero team and each second gen’s power is fuck off tier strong. Its not as inherent of a mismatch as it seems at first, Dash is trouble but some combo of Pepa, Luisa, and Antonio can probably tag him, if only by baiting out his cocky childishness. The main issue is just what you say anon, prep time.
>>128244017>no knowledge of opposing family's location on the islandDolores can immediately disregard this shit
>>128247237Goku and Superman blow the place up
>>128244279So we should exclude Agustin and Felix?
>>128247237Why do you keep posting this? It's a boring stomp, it always has been, Bloodborne sucks and anyone could survive it.
>>128246778Sure they did, Bats stomped Captain America.
>>128246332If Vegeta hits Thor real hard, he'll get knocked outJust like when Superman beat Thor
>>128246726Pym Particles are basically Marvel's Speedforce.Pym don't gotta explain shit, it'll basically be something like pic related and then he just easily kills Atom. And that's WITHOUT including Pymtron fuckery.
>>128245939>>128246507>>128246513>>128246599SuperCHAD Prime takes them all at once no diff
>>128246793This is a cowardly seethe for something unspecified
>>128246773>We're JUST using Ant ManI accept your concession.
>>128247349Wrong. DC has DIALS.
>>128247349Just go into the Microverse
>>128246726Ray turns the lens on HankBOOM
>>128247424>i'm sure to win because my dials are s-Dials? More like DILATE.
>>128247452>Can only beat Lex Luthor
>>128247452Well good for you you're wrong
>>128247460>Can only beat all of DC combinedFTFY>>128247462Concession? ACCEPTED.
>>128247480>Taps out at DC businessman Kek
>>128247336>stats aside >>128247359>non DC local shitposting has rotted your brains, tourists
>>128247480Wrong, wrong, and wrong.Lex is a pussy.
>>128247506>>128247515>IESLBYou BORE me.
>>128247526Just not powerful enough for DC, maybe he should try Image or Valiant
>>128247526Try Dark Horse.
>>128247508The original question (first link in post you're responding) asks who's the strongest Superman pastiche, periodTurns out you're the only retarded tourist here, assbleeding thorfag
>>128247424gangbang beatdown > DIALS
>>128247566one of the posts you replied to, which had nothing to do with the previous post as it was not a reply, specified non-DC. you did not make a distinction despite replying to it, and now you accuse me of neopagan worship for ousting you as the tourist you are. truly pathetic the mind of a DC tourist is
>>128247567Actually that Iron Man needed a Mother BoxSo only the Dials can beat the Dials
Superman: KICKED Thor's assThor: his ass got KICKED
>>128247582Wonder Man, Shulkie and Vision are shitters
>>128247602they're also Mother Box tier
>>128247581>trying to pick niggling fights like an obvious tourist faggot>calls everyone else touristThe sad state of the asshurt
>>128246726Hank beat his wife and legally got away with it. he wins.
>>128247535Superman? SCAT FETISHIST. BISEXUAL SON. RAPED BY RUSSIANS. BENEATH DOOM.Batman? KEKED BY BANE. REFUSES TO KILL A CLOWN DESPITE EVERYTHING BEING CLEAR THAT HE SHOULD. MENTALLY ILL MANCHILD IN A BAT SUIT. BENEATH DOOM.Green Lantern? PEDOPHILE. ALLERGIC TO THE COLOR YELLOW. BENEATH DOOM.Wonder Woman? A WOMAN. BENEATH DOOM.Flash? DEFEATED BY DEATHSTROKE, PAPER, AND CATWOMAN. BENEATH DOOM.Darkseid? WORKS AT MCDONALD'S. IS BEATEN BY STAIRS. ADDICTED TO COCAINE. BENEATH DOOM.Anti Monitor? A JOBBER. BEATEN BY A CAR. NEEDS HIS MOMMA TO CARRY HIM. BENEATH DOOM.Batkek? KILLED BY A SUN. BEATEN BY A TOMBSTONE. BENEATH DOOM.I HATH SPOKEN.
>>128247621the lady doth protest too much, methinks >>128247619She-Hulk, Wonder Man and Vision are all Motherbox+ tier? Incredible... Marvel has dials...
>>128247627shit... this can't be happening DCbros...
>>128247642Then stop protesting, faggotAccept Thor is a wimp who gets bodied by the thing you fear most: a woman
>>128247627Get cucked by a nerd, eurotrash
>>128247662>y-you're talking about yourself (??) it seems your own fantasies of Thorfags have shattered your resolve... such a pity.
>>128247707Get off my dick if you want to say something so we can understand you, homo
>>128247627Iron Man? Multiversal. Zarathos? Multiversal. DOOM? Omniversal. Outerversal. Omnipotent.
>>128247627>Anti Monitor>BEATEN BY A CARlmao, what?
>>128247733>beat by a bitch with buck teeth
>>128247703>>128247674Merely a doombot.
>>128247783Cope and seetheDoom's most familiar territory
>>128247776Omniversal, Outerversal, Omnipotent squirrels
>>128244017I know what you meant by "the incredibles" but the right picture includes the black guy, the incel, and the robot. The americans stomp hard
>>128248134Omniversal, Outerversal, Omnipotent cope
>>128244017lifting the book of infinite pages is a misleading feat of fathoming rather than strength. there was nothing material about or in Limbo.
>>128248188>flowery language for me not for thee
When Superman hit Thor did Thor's life flash before his eyes as he lost consciousness?
>>128248300that only happens when you die don't it?
>>128244017If it's pre talking about Bruno, the family Madrigal are toast. Post...they automatically have prep time by default and win.
>>128248326Or near death, like Thor was
>>128248461wasn't near death he didn't need any healing
>>128248471He looked very distressed, worried for his life, as consciousness slipped away. Like he was keenly aware if Superman wasn't holding back, he would have died then and there
>>128244017The Incredibles end the Encanto family lineage so that they can no longer continue the family tree./thread
>>128248495we didn't really see his face as he got punched and he only looked mad in the previous panel but he was eager to fight supes again so i doubt he was scared
>>128248505Aggression in beta males is often a camouflage for fear, anon. Thor was clearly as afraid as his teammates who dogpiled Superman dishonorably after his decisive, clean and fair victory
>>128248538but superman looked madder than thor
>>128245977Looks like Vegeta is going to take a fat L, as King Thor is insanely powerful.
>>128248656why would they use King Thor?
In fact, Vegeta was already losing in the preview. They're going to force him to use his last ditch resort attack against Thor.
>>128248777There isn't even a preview out yet retard.
>>128248777the final flash? Thor's gonna redirect that if he's smart, and fight it with the godblast if he's dumb. i'm just worried they'll give Thor the same permissive scaling they gave Iron Man and Doom
>>128248800Why are you calling me a retard? Whatever did I even do to you to make you insult me?
>>128248829it's the standard response to a shitpost or different opinion. along with tranny and thorfag
Camilo, Dolores, Pepa, Felix, Abuela, Bruno, Julietta, Agustin, and Mirabel are all practically useless. Antonio is useless if the island is completely uninhabited. That leaves Isabela and Luisa to do all the actual fighting. Parr's take this no contest, what a dumb match upPlus superior milf plus ratio plus they're Colombian
>>128248888Well, I don't like it.Please bepre polite with me.
>>128247627>>128247733Doom? Cuckolded in his own marriage bed by his archenemy's brother in law.
>>128248959>He says, while posting the character who's spending his current time running around naked trying to get some crack
FACTS:>Dragon Ball only gets FTL with characters who are as fast as or faster than Dyspo>Jojo's only FTL characters are Made in Heaven and Star Platinum/The World (with Time Stop)>The only One Piece character to be able to move at the Speed of Light is Kizaru>Scaling and feats in comics are nonexistent since Superman, Hulk, Thor, Wonder Woman, etc constantly go from being strong enough to destroy entire universes to being fodderized by whatever new villain Bendis or whoever wants to push even when they're likely not even powerful enough to destroy a planet>Obscure shit like most VNs, comic characters who are C-listers and below, or anime characters who aren't huge draws like shonen stuff or shit that was once popular like Elfen Lied or Akame Ga Kill will never, ever be in Death Battle.
>>128244017how would he fare in DC?
>>128249499fodderizes the entire verse easily.
>>128244017You kidding me? Luisa is the only family member who the Incredibles should even pay attention to.
WAKE ME UP
>>128247602It’s still Iron Man with a Mother Box
>>128244017Violet can easily take out and subdue all noncombatants (Mirabel, Bruno, Julieta, Abuela, Agustin, Felix) as well as Luisa by trapping them in bubbles, severely crippling the Madrigal's strategic abilities and removing their healer. There is largely nothing any of these characters could do to escape the bubbles once inside.Pepa, Isabela, and Antonio's powers can all potentially reach outside the bubble, leaving them to fight off the rest of the Parrs along with Dolores and Camilo, who can elude capture. However, as his power is of little use for anything else, we'll say Camilo takes the place of Luisa (the obvious Madrigal MVP) in a bubble (Bruno and Dolores' powers allowed them to plan for this eventuality).The playing field then is rounded out to Luisa, Isabela, Pepa, Dolores, and Antonio vs. Bob, Helen, Dash, and Jack-Jack.We'll be generous to Luisa and say she and Bob are evenly matched and cancel one another out. Dolores can hear anyone coming, but ultimately can't outrun Dash who can easily overpower her and deliver her to Violet for bubbling, so her only real option is hiding until it's over. Isabela can shield herself and others from attackers with cacti and pollen, but if Jack-Jack decides to go invulnerable she has no defense against him. Antonio's animals can put up a good fight against potentially any of the Parrs but I think they'd be best suited to distracting Jack-Jack who, if he felt like it, could kill basically all of them.Ultimately the only Madrigal who could possibly pose a threat to the Parrs is Pepa, which depends completely on her power that she has next to no control over. If she can summon gale-force winds, she can potentially blow away Dash and Helen. Bob could be taken out with a well-placed lightning strike. Violet's bubbles could likely protect herself but wouldn't be able to contain Pepa's weather.In the end, it's really just a question of whether Pepa or Jack-Jack's random OP superpower wins.
>>128251032I think the nature of Pepa's powers, and her lack of control over them, ultimately makes her useless in a combat situation. I don't believe we ever see her exhibit enough fine control over them that we could confidently say she could use them in a high-stress situation like an actual fight. The most likely outcome is that during the fight she gets stressed enough to summon a category 10 hurricane and everybody on both sides dies.
>>128249499Bueno Excellente would make good use of that hourglass figure. Yujiro would feel the cheap used street meat inside himself
>>128250741Not that many big /m/ brands.
>>128248559A simple mistake on your part, betaThor was the aggressor, but Superman knocked his ass out, asserting his alpha dominanceBoth you and Thor stayed mad, as determined by your beta natures
>>128249047(free) based swinging dick cosmic crack fiend
>>128252346And how many /m/ fights have we had?Around 5 total?
>>128250741/co/ just feels more right.
>>128249047Where does that come from?
>>128250741If that's /m/, what does /lit/ look like?
>>128252410Depends what we count. Definitely anything involving Gundam and Power Rangers. Not so much Transformers but it has the shared common core.
>>128252511>not so much Transformers nonsense anon
>explosion couldn't even clear the cloudsOur planet isn't planet level, fucking pathetic.
>>128245939Aaron's Hyperion from the really bad heroes reborn event
>People on /m/ think the EVAs can defeat Godzilla.
Superman: kicked Thor's assThor: his ass got kicked by Superman
>>128244017Saying there's no prep time when Dolores and Bruno's powers basically boil down to "we always have prep time" feels kind of disingenuous
>>128253674Some do. The vast majority of the thread is saying Godzilla rapes them
>>128253985Because more people know him (and like him but I hope it's objective and not popularity contest) and are aware that dismissing him as some dumb big dinosaur is pretty much guaranteed to be the last mistake in your life.
>>128252357If you wanna play that game, Storm beat Wonder Woman. So much for your DIALS.
>>128253353Underwater volcano explosion that happened like ten hours ago
>>128254131That was a vote based thing
>>128254131>muh non-canon voted winnerbeta cope, thorfag
Hawkman vs StarhawkWill the real avatar of the Hawk God please stand up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk_Brioe0mYSomeone in the comment section suggested something that would make this fight worth it>We cut to the sun and moon>Speed time up MILLIONS of years>The Earth is just a dried husk>They're STILL going at it
>>128244242She would've been killed by two guys with crossbows without the villain saving her.
>>128244242Should she fight Frozone, Iceman, or Jadis?
>>128244242unless she premakes those ice monsters then there is no chance. >Strength to break ice as it forms>stretch to outpace being frozen>force fields to completely protect from freezing>speed to completely out maneuver anything.>jack jack can melt through everything Encanto is dead for sure.
>>128255074the white witch is the most thematically relevant out of those 3 by far
>>128244017>>128244074>>128244336>>128244684Yeah. There are possible scenarios where the Madrigals win, but none are as likely as the Parrs steamrolling them.>>128246507Samaritan beats him.>>128246726>>128247349Getting big is the last thing Pym wants to do in this fight. All it means is presenting more mass for Ray to put on a death timer while being unable to do a thing to Ray in turn.Ray ultimately wins because he can put Pym on a death timer he likely won't be aware of until its too late, and even if he does become aware of it he can only end the timer by returning to his original size where he'll get a little man tap dancing on his brain.
>>128255650Samaritan loses to both Moore Supreme and Hyperion due to lacking speed feats
>>128255650You watched Encanto?
>>128249345TRUTH>>128251032>>128251280Pepa is more likely to get overwhelmed and taken out, especially when everyone but Bob has ways to sneak up on her, then she is to blast all of them with a monster storm.>>128253674Sahaquiel wank won't save them. Godzilla laughs his tail off at their safe-space fields.I still don't understand why angels don't get tanged when you break their Freud fields.
>>128254683Starhawk wins unless you bring stupid shit into it.>>128255673Something something flies out of reality and they both lack the power to meaningfully hurt Samaritan.>>128255694I teach 11/12 year olds so I pick it up by proxy.
>>128255775>Something something flies out of reality and they both lack the power to meaningfully hurt Samaritan.Supreme can also do that
>>128255580I agree, but does she stand any chance, power level wise?
>>128255816Oh shit. I forgot about him beating not-Specter.
>>128255731>I still don't understand why angels don't get tanged when you break their Freud fields.they do in the remake film, and it just looks stupid and over the top.
>>128255837she has a very similar freezing kingdom feat, she probably wins by being overall smarter and more well experienced with her magic.Frozone gets stomped by Elsa and Iceman stomps her.
>>128255837Deplorable Word means she wins.>>128255863Eva was always stupid and over the top.
>>128255884The angel not exploding led to cooler shots
>>128255851Didn’t Suprema lift the universe too
>>128255879>>128255884You've sold me on Elsa vs Jadis. Will submit in the hopes of another salt-inducing match kek
>>128255912She lifted a snowglobe - a contentious 'universal mirror'-tier feat
>>128244017How would he fare in Marvel?
>>128247627>>superman was raped by russiansH-hot
>>128255965Darkhold'd and banished to Gorath's realm almost instantly
Vegetafags have been pretty silent now that they know they're facing Rune King Thor.
>>128255900I will give you that. The coolest part about Eva was all the giant corpse shots.>>128255948No if you read the story its very clear she did in fact lift their universe.>B-But how...Because the being that created it was a Thunderbolt clone and Johnny Thunder's Thunderbolt can do anything.>>128255965Kang fodder.
>>128255989Rune King Thor was confirmed? Where?
>>128255965Him and Mr Sinister would be BFFs.
>>128255965another C tier villain
>>128256058Well, people are assuming Vegeta is fighting Thor, so.
>>128255989well if Cates runs continues having Thor as the skyfather for a while I could see them using Odin force Thor. This way they can eaily scale to Celestial splitting the universe like they did for Tony
>>128256005I read the story and it doesn't make it any clearer than she lifted a magical object of arbitrary and unknowable properties as opposed to predictable physical properties such as crushing a kitchen table under its mass, or distorting spacetime by having the mass of a universe concentrated into a snowglobeAnd if we resort to the magical setting to explain this, then everything gets thrown into doubt, including Suprema's own strength and perceptionsMagical object; arbitrary and unknowable physical propertiesMagical setting; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties and all 'feats' are consequently interpretive
>>128255965>Magic side: Higher than modern strange but lower than Shuma Gorath. Around Dormammu tier.>Other Supes: would be a fucking problen due to how skewed the Marvel Universe is, especially to shit like Krakoa
>>128256273>she lifted a magical object of arbitrary and unknowable propertiesIt’s a snowglobe containing the universe theyre in That’s the properties
>>128256273Calm down autismo. The point of the story was that they were finding impossible tasks for Suprema to do as a reference to that Thor story from the Edas. They put the universe inside a snowglobe to give her something to lift and then freak the fuck out when she actually pulls it off.>B-B-But muh physics! Muh table!Magic. Genie. What part of magic don't you understand?
>>128255965Stomps a mudhole in krakoa but gets fucked by Top tier magicians
I don’t understand AT field wank. Literally in the first episode an N2 mine calced at slightly less than 2 gigatons broke an at field and injured the angel Did they just not watch the show
>>128244242For a cold bitch, she's in heat a lot.
>>128256419It's because AT fields vary. By a lot.Take Lilith spreading an AT field across the planet. Just on covering the planet you know DB would come up with some sort of retarded calc for it, even if all it did was pop human fields.
>>128255775>Otto supports an incest movieGross
>>128256542incest is based, sorry your family was ugly
>>128256463Even sahaquiel’s AT field only has a 4 gigaton calc, and he’s got one of the stronger AT fields IIRC
>>128256363>muh point of everythingYeah, how's that 'argument' work for Saitama? It's a non-argument for idiot non-thinkers>muh autismSorry you can't into important details, retard>magicExactly my point, and I clearly understand it better than youMagical object; arbitrary and unknowable physical propertiesMagical setting; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties, consequently all 'feats' are interpretiveYour 'argument' absolutely fails to refute this. Try harder>>128256309Magical object; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties, as demonstrated right there in the storyMagical setting; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties, consequently all 'feats' are interpretive
>>128256796But we know the propertiesThe universe If snowglobe break, be the same as break the universe
>>128256796>The point of Saitama is that he never losesYou failed basic comprehension.
>>128256796You really do have autism, don't you?
>>128256822NopeIf it had the properties you say, ie the mass of a universe in a snowglobe, the predictable physical properties says the kitchen table would be crushed and spacetime distorted. These aren't happening, therefore physical properties are not predictable, but arbitraryMagical object; arbitrary and unknowable physical propertiesYou will continue to fail to refute this kek
I can't believe they said Saitama is one of the strongest characters they had on the show.Not even on the fucking season.
>>128256861I demonstrated your retardation alreadySuck eggs faggot LMFAO
>>128256881Keep crying and stay mad, retard
>>128256887>If it had the properties you say, ie the mass of a universe in a snowglobe, the predictable physical properties says the kitchen table would be crushed and spacetime distorted. These aren't happening, therefore physical properties are not predictable, but arbitraryUniversal table since the whole thing is a test made by a being who can contain the weight of the universe in a snowglobeBasic magic
>>128256952>universal tableBWAHAHA-tier nonsense, and Reed Richards would be jealous of your reachAnd what of spacetime distortion?Are you resorting to 'muh magical setting', again?Magical setting; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties, consequently all 'feats' are interpretiveYou have no argument lol
>>128257007>The genie can put the universe inside a snow globe, but I refuse he can make it not break a table!Goddamn you're stupid.
>>128257007Well if it’s a snowglobe and not breaking it’s clearly not gonna hurt a table
>>128257007Suprema had troule lifting the snow globeas any superman analoogue she wouldbe able to lift something that would break any table easilytherefore the table must be magic,where would you draw the line anyway, is a building level table ok?
>>128257007Yes I'm sure the genie stuffed the universe inside a snow globe for the purpose of giving Suprema something light to lift.Oh wait. No. That's fucking stupid. You're fucking stupid. Kill yourself.
>>128257176But anon! You can't read into that! Something something muh one punch man!
>>128257176>>128257163>>128257044>>128257023It’s the Mr Majestic Fag ignore
>>128257007>Magical setting; arbitrary and unknowable physical properties, consequently all 'feats' are interpretivethat is not how it should work.magic is encrypted cheat codes of physics.Paranormal is arbitrary and unknowable physical properties, consequently all 'feats' are interpretive. it doesn't give a shit about plot, etc.when you dig into the occult and other shit, magic is nothing more than another way for how shit works. a way that has been hidden from the masses and upheld by "Gods" or ignorance.
>>128257436summed: Physics, Magic And Paranormal.
Who is a good opponent for thicc boi
>>128257674Who fucking cares. EVA is weak as shit.
>>128257885It beats gamera
>>128257674Whose a monster from a sub-par remake of an anime?
I'm still on occasion, salty about DIO vs Alucard
>>128258136I know, the coping and seething continues to this day.
>>128258153It's just so blatantly biased and misinformed how the fuck did swan get away with it?
>>128258071That version of zeruel is from the original Eva, otto.
>>128258223Shit. I keep thinking he was new for the remake like Clockiel.
>>128247237Dante and Link, at least, handle that shit with ease.
>>128258172Swan slept with chad
>h-heh smt is only city level universal walmarts>uh lousy saying smt's cosmology >= dc's cosmology doesn't count h-he's not a main researcher because [headcanon]>u-uh actually constantine doesn't get wanked to presence levels h-he's a bottom tier and uh you'd put the weakest messiah against the most powerful entity in the DC universe if you'd want a fair fight>u-uh swan saying SMT is outerversal and above even the Beyonder doesn't count because he meant the version no one cares about in powerlevel fights and he d-doesn't hold those beliefs anymoreWhy does SMT buckbreak DC so hard bros?
>>128258396He slept with a lake?
>>128256916I mean maybe he's in the top 80
>>128244017>clark was repeatedly raped by men who looked like pic relatedIs not fair
>original animation depicts an explosion that erases a bunch of planets>western version depicts a meteor obliterating the planets of the solar system very slowly before causing the sun to go supernova to really fucking emphasize the point of its destructive power>every single guidebook and description claims this is a thing that's actually happening and never states its an illusion>the only thing supporting it being an illusion is literal headcanon by redditors involving retarded arguments like why can't sephiroth teleport an entire planet like he can with three dudes or why didn't the creators throw all their effort into making the animation into the trash by having every subsequent animation just be a meteor travelling in space for 2 minutes doing absolutely nothingHas there ever been a greater cope than Supernova not being a supernova
What would you rather have - Hellboy vs Nero or John Constantine VS Raidou Kuzunoha?
>>128258644In a season
>>128258565I mean it doesn't do any lasting damage to Cloudworld so yeah it's pretty clearly just a fancy animation like the summons in Golden Sun that can visibly be seen tearing up the overworld (and then the overworld is fine)
>>128244017non wanked sailor galaxia can fight AND defeat both dio and saitama
>>128252357you're either trolling or mentally ill
>>128252325Yujiro is a rapist himself. he is immune to bueno excelente
>>128258397Look at what he thinks about base Hal Jordan now compared to Parallax then.Step to anyone that isn't a conman level magician in DC and SMT gets fraud checked hard.
>>128244017bad stompmadrigals got only roid girl who is not even cityblock level
>>128258565>A dressed up gravity spell that can't kill the party with an animation that includes a fireball that moves slower than Jason and deals 0 damage to SephirothI'm going to bring up FF7's supernova at my next PLC, I think we can save money by using it to diagnose speds instead of an IQ battery.
>>128258840>SMT pre modern DB wank is already far above Hal and Parallax>he's still coping
>>128244017who's a good matchup for Genis-Vell?and why is Monarch his best matchup?
>>128258873But universal snowglobe makes sense
>>128258840you seem to be under the mistaken impression that Swan will not maximize his wank. he already put SMT above the Beyonder
>>128258873>fireball is shown busting every single fucking planet>B-BUT IT HECKERINO MOVES SLOW>B-BUT SEPHIROTH ISN'T DAMAGED BY HIS OWN ATTACKThis is more cope than the average Biden voter goes through jesus christ lmao
>>128258959And it does nothing
>>128258959The fireball doesn't actually reach beyond Earth.>>128258916Yes. Because it actually has effects and comments backing up what it is. Meanwhile in the remake, Cloud and friends insta-lose to a nuke level attack implied to be supernova without the pocket dimension.
>>128258930>yfw Otto gets his Demifiend vs Spectre fight instead of vs Etrigan or Spawn and Spectre gets scaled to full Presence power>yfw post wank SMT Demifiend wins anyways
>>128258902>>128258930>Thinking Swan after discovering multiverse tiering isn't going to destroy SMTIt's entire cosmology can't even be wanked beyond the speed force. Swan is going to have Specter make (insert jumped up twink protag here) kneel before the Lord Thy God.>>128259004He already has Supeman as beyond outerversal. SMT is going to go the way of Ben 10.
>>128258994>not even close to EoS Cloud loses to a nuke level attack that is implied to be [headcanon]>this is somehow meant to imply somethingAlso the comments of "this is actually a real supernova" in every single guidebook and the visual effect of destroying every fucking planet really fucking slowly so you can take the fucking hint doesn't back it up
>>128259031>SMT cosmology is equal or greater than FC>t. Official researcherGonna cope about a headcanon of the positions of DB researchers some more bro? Gonna retroactively change your thoughts on the winner of Raidou vs Constantine out of pure butthurt lmao?
>>128259031>beyond outerversal.what the FUCK is this supposed to mean?
>>128258644John vs Raidou, by a mile. The other one doesn't even make sense on a thematic level. I've seen that list of connections. It's mostly lies and misinterpretations.
>>128259054the backlash with the supernova attack is not arbitrary or some kind of downplaying whim, at least for most of the detractors. it has more to do with the sudden escalation of power than simply lowballing the verse
>>128259031The specter can't kill a human clown though
>>128259113Apparently below these russian homosexuals
>gets mogged by most Godzilla’s
>>128259186Is he still smaller than 1954 or did he grew up?
>>128259196From 45m to 100m. He's still ugly as sin though. Is this the only way they can make their Godzilla stand out these days?
>>128259222Toho doesn’t have any idea what they’re doing. Anno is the only reason shin was any good. Anything Toho does without anyone else’s input is garbage nowadays
>>128259081Just Final Crisis?Oh man. Specter really is going to Tonka Saw Stephen.
>the US makes the most popular Godzilla in the world>Toho responds with several ugly ass designs
>>128259241They just loan the IP to third party and let them do whatever they want. There aren't any people who are directly connected with the franchise like in the old days. They just let Americans make movies and anime studios make their thing while they think of new ideas like that ride or the theme park.
>>128258994It can’t even break a table let alone the planet
>>128259286That's a lot of fish
>>128259288That explains a lot
>>128258397Dude, SMT's version of Susanoo can't even fraudcheck it's own match-up go on somewhere
>>128259286And yet, said designs are infinitely more kino than MV Godzilla.
>>128258397>SMT buckbreaking anyoneYeah sure buddy, stick with DC's magic conman, even that is probably a stretch.
>>128259368You shut your whore mouth
>>128244017>another /co/mfy thread ruined by otto, otto's disciples, and otto's detractors (whom may or may not be otto's disciples in disguise)
>>128259408>I-if I laugh at him it means I win!The state of ultimafag
>>128259416MV Godzilla is a weak design compared to the other designs of the character.
>>128259368They're just ugly and have weird proportions. If they started with that it wouldn't have become such an eternal classic for all time. Experimenting with the design is fine but it will never become the new standard.
>>128259427>Storytime isn’t comfy What’s your deal
>>128259441By what standards? He’s incredibly popular, even Tohokingdom with their hateboner for gaijin ranked it as the 3rd best design
>>128259437>Ultima is LITERALLY stronger
>>128259427Shut up fag, Otto just did a comfy storytime.
>>128259449>The erosions of billenia happened in seconds!>Working against the awesome power of time itself!Is this more impressive than the snowglobe?
>>128259466You rely on statements and theoreticals, even MonsterVerse Godzilla is a lot stronger based on actual feats, including his red dust storm creation
>>128259449you need to ask so many questions about this stupid nonsense that you might as well not use it in a debate
>>128259499What questions? It's all there for you in black and white.
>>128259491Same shit goes for Heisei Godzilla if that's the case.
>>128259499>NO I DON'T BELIEVE IT! SUPREMA CAN'T BE THIS POWERFUL, SHE CAN'T!
>>128259449Supreme and Suprema confirmed for faster than time and stronger than universes.
>>128247237I feel like Humans wouldn't survive without coming in with max gear, and even then its iffy. Dante probably clears it easily, Link/Geralt have fighting experience/magic on their side so they probably have a really good chance. The Alien I honestly can't say. Mabye that specific Alien won't survive, but if it can get one of the old one's as a host for its children we're gonna see a really powerful Alien.
>>128259514what are the physics of lifting a snowglobe sized universe from the outside without it affecting the sector of space we're privy to? just what in the hell was that snowglobe made of? and the table it was on? >>128259538histrionics won't help you either
>>128259587>just what in the hell was that snowglobe made of? and the table it was on?Magic
>>128259081I don’t think you get it. Swan still thinks that Superman is legitimately limitless. This isn’t a joke. Swan thinks that Superman is actually unbeatable and can do whatever he wants.
>>128259598doesn't work for me, brother
>>128259620A magic genie made the test, that’s just what happened, it’s like comparing about the so cold it makes stars freeze thing
>>128259618Superman has never lifted a material infinity, only metaphorical ones
>>128259633I did read the scans. I'm not not convinced. if death battle uses it that's fair enough but i still won't stand by it just like i don't personally stand by universal hulk and gorillions FTL Thor. in this world there's three sides to every power scale: your headcanon, death battle's headcanon and the truth.
>>128255775>11/12 year oldsDamn having to listen to whatever shit they talk about must be exhausting. Anyway ice cream time
>>128259667>i still won't stand by it just like i don't personally stand by universal hulk and gorillions FTL Thor. in this world there's three sides to every power scale: your headcanon, death battle's headcanon and the truth.It’s a snowglobe as heavy as the universe for an impossible test deal with it
>>128259639Superman lifted every story that has ever existed, I.e. fiction.It was an allegory for something else. And Swan still believes it’s actual infinity. No amount of coping will change that.
>>128256558Go back to lusting over the rat man with Otto
>>128259618Honestly swan looks better without the mustache
>>128244017Post YFW Luisa cracks a crick in her neck, reloads her biceps Henry Cavill style, and has her "world of cardboard" speech against Mr. Incredible.
>>128259697you've said this. i read the pages, i know the premise of the feat. if you explain it again i'll assume you're mentally handicapped >>128259709i'm just telling it like it is, anon. there was nothing material in limbo, Atlas's burden was metaphorical by what's shown on panel and elaborated on by WoG and "eternity" is not a unit of mass, and he didn't lift the Spectre anyway
>>128259782Just trying to help a windowlicker who can’t handle universal Suprema
>A mall is supposed to be outerversal? Don't speak such foolishness in DOOM'S presence
>we can predict the outcomes of death battles simply by watching what swan says
>>128244017Everyone saying the Madrigals will get their shit stomped in are failing to consider a few things. Let's see..if Julieta already has a meal prepared, that's a huge advantage. If not, how fast can she whip up something edible? We also don't know the extent of her ability: can it raise the recently fallen? Can Mirabel raise her to greater heights? Could definitely turn the tide to help someone like Luisa get back in the fight if they're not completely annihilated.Pepa could be very powerful if she can control her power, much like Storm from X-Men. Otherwise could do more harm than good.Bruno could, if given a minute, predict a win-scenario or help the family avoid a losing one.Camilo unless he has some sort of gorilla or jaguar form up his sleeve isn't going to be much help unless the Incredibles are seperated at some point and he can infiltrate and mislead or assassinate one of them.Dolores is absolutely vital for intelligence gathering in this scenario, as she can detect their presence on the island (negating Violet's invisibility), hear their plans and help coordinate against them.Antonio can likewise have animal spies maintain visual and harry them with attacks and swarms.Isabella with her full powers awakened can summon thorn walls and cactus fields to hamper the speedster and maybe even elastigirl with some strangling vines.Luisa is a brick on par with Bob at the very least. Not much else to be said here.They have the Intelligence and Numbers advantage as well as multiple ways to negate the opposing family's powers. Assuming La Casa Madrigal is there too, and can form itself into fortifications to protect the candle and its keeper, and assuming the Family Madrigal is at full confidence, love, hope, teamwork status, they have a pretty diverse set of powers to work with. The downside being the Madrigals only have one person on their side with more-than-human durability whereas the Parrs have Bob and Helen as well as Violet's shield.
>>128259833... as soon as I posted this I realized I completely forgot Jack-Jack existed. He's definitely an ace up their sleeve.
>>128259810Clearly, you’re mindbroken over this shit>>128259833Depends on how literal moving mountains is
>>128259833How will they deal with the giant robot?
>solos both families, and THEN kills Elsa for being overrated/Frozen being more popular than Coco
>>128259798Wouldn't want to upset the high cuck of Shartveria lmao
>>128259908merely a doombot disguised as Johnny StormOnce again Doom prevails over his detractors
>>128259908why is everything pertaining to the F4 so full of NTR?
>>128259895Loses to Rikochet
>>128244017Fuck those spics. Incredibles takes it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWtRUzOyoKQCan I tell you something?This fight is inexplicably hilarious to watch and I don't know why. Is it the sudden movements?
>>128259924You’re spasming over magic
>>128259824>swan considers metaphors to be real applicable featsCan't wait till they put 2hu characters!
>>128259824It worked for Dio vs Alucard, and to an extent for Mickey vs Yoda.
>>128259878admittedly we don't have much to go on but if "I'm as tough as the crust of the earth is", "got a rough indestructible surface" isn't bluster I'd say she's pretty tough.She does casually toss and tank a boulder to the head. Bob isn't impervious, he's imperiled a few times in the two movies. He may have the greater feat of strength if we just go by what's seen.>>128259889I didn't see the robot mentioned but: combo of Pepa's storms, Isabella's plants can infiltrate its systems and fuck shit up, and Luisa will have to step up as usual.
>>128244017Metro Man makes more sense for Me Incredible.
>>128260234She mentions the mountains stuff outside the song though
>>128259175God I wish that were me
>>128259271Are you really making references to ancient Guntstream drama?
>>128247324Which makes him, what, 1-2? He got beat by Iron Man and utterly raped by Spider-Man. Deathstroke lost to Deadpool too. DC doesn't always win v Marvel, infact it's pretty close to 50/50 at this point (anyone have the exact tally?)
>>128260346Metro Man vs Zhongli from Genshin Impact makes more sense
>>1282610571-3 actually, he lost to BP
>>128258831>thinking Bueno is but a simple rapist As we've seen these last several years, nothing is stronger than the power of perversion. Certainly no other force in comics seems to compareI hope Yujiro isn't scared?
>>128261087That’s a fucking horrible matchup and that thumbnail looks like shit too. One quick reverse image search:>https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathBattleMatchups/comments/r6tdw0/metro_man_vs_zhongli_megamind_vs_genshin_impact/OF COURSE it’s Reddit. Nobody else thinks of this type of shit. Go back.
>>128261193>checks his profile>he’s a futa fagKEK
>>128257436Magic is a battle of wills, where perception and reality are joined and equally mutable for the one under the spell. Breaking the spell, and thus passing a magical test, is generally an act of will, to either see through the illusion, or just be too damn stubborn This is the way it's always been. Thus, any 'feats' in a magical setting are subject to interpretation. I believe we've been over this several times with universal mirrors, angry suns, and twink carrying the weight of the cosmos on their backs
>>128261160Yujiro's already done his PP training with every animal.
>>128257023>>128257044>>128257163>>128257176>>128257324>duurrrrr u am stoopidAs I said, emotional girls with no argument Stay assmad kek
>>128261388It be magic Anon. Suprema is universal
>>128259564Geralt's signs are just shit-tier parlor tricks that barely work on mindless animals and drunks, no way anything worth a damn in Bloodborne would be seriously affected by shit like igni or quen. His entire gimmick is that he's basically medieval batman and preps ahead of time and then ganks his enemies, he isn't going to get far when he's running blind and doesn't know anything about the monsters. He'd be lucky to even reach the Cleric Beast.
>>128260094>swan considers metaphors to be real applicable featsGreat, that mean he will take all the songs in Encanto literally, Luisa can move mountains, break icebergs, beat Cerberus, and fly. Mirabel can take on Dash because she slowed down time during her song. The Madrigals got this.
>>128261193I have no idea why the love their instagram filters so much. They universally look horrible. I think it's a place full of actual, literal children and teenagers.
>>128252545>>128252474/lit/ is a single Harry Potter cosplayer sitting in a car in the parking lot outside of the pool.
>>128259618Anyone who can emit Red Sun radiation, has special senses to allow them to intuit the weakness, and has the speed and durability to make the fight last long enough for the weakness to take hold can beat Superman. Marvel is full of guys who meet this criteria (Silver Surfer, Captain Marvel, Nova, Quasar) so I'm not sure why they haven't done it. Red sun radiation is how the Russians were able to take him, after all. If some regular jackoff Russians can use red sun radiation to make Superman their bitch I don't get why DB doesn't take a crack at it.
>>128261344Bueno has perverted demons and elder monstrosities. Even the power of a Green Lantern was no match for himA mere ogre? Little more than a box of creampuffs and a tube of toothpaste to Bueno
>>128259709>Superman lifted every story that has ever existed, I.e. fiction.no he didn't, it only happened in DC, they don't have the power to write the canon of other series throughout history.Doesn't fucking count.
>>128261660>Anyone who can emit Red Sun radiation, has special senses to allow them to intuit the weakness, and has the speed and durability to make the fight last long enough for the weakness to take hold can beat Superman. Marvel is full of guys who meet this criteria (Silver Surfer, Captain Marvel, Nova, Quasar) so I'm not sure why they haven't done it.Solar reserves and generally faster than everyone besides maybe Surfer, love Wendell but he’s not known for his speed
>>128261705>i-it didn't happen cause I just say so ok!Classic cope and seethe
>>128261665he roofied Kyle, and Yuujiro is more powerful than Mandrakk
>>128261760cope with what and seethe about what
>>128261705>no he didn't, it only happened in DC, they don't have the power to write the canon of other series throughout history.>Doesn't fucking count.WB
>>128261772>he [headcanon]So much coping. Am I amongst literal manlets?
>>128261796Your denial lol
>>128261818what the fuck are you talking about? and quit using random buzzwords, tourist
>>128261815All of capeshit, at least. Definitely everything after that involves power levels, as wellAn absolutely anything claiming to beat him kek
>>128261815>>128261887DC has no sway over non DC properties lest those properties agree to become a part of DC. DC isn't any more all-encompassing over fiction than Dr Who and Marvel are
>>128261850Oh sure, the lightweight twink 'had his drink spiked' lol Kyle can't hold his alcohol any better than I imagine your 4 foot frame can, manlet
>>128261932>DC has no sway over non DC properties lest those properties agree to become a part of DC. DC isn't any more all-encompassing over fiction than Dr Who and Marvel areWB and DC share a cosmogony as seen with space jam
>>128261950>DC is literally fake even within fiction DCbros... not like this...
>>128261932>swayNah, shitter, all those stories owe a debt to Superman being the first and best and not only carrying them all but allowing them to exist in the first placeCope and seethe
>>128261991Heracles, Doc Savage, John Carter this reads like demented pilpul, which isn't surprising considering Superman is a jewish power fantasy. it even checks out with Otto being a clueless dumbass boomer mindlessly supporting and embellishing him
>>128261048The Tonka Saw saga was kino, don't act like it wasn't. It was one of Jim's best videos.>>128261330>Equally mutableYou know nothing of magic. Magic circles? Consecrated ground? Hello? Hellooooo? The privileging of the supernatural over the natural is kind of the point.
>>128261660It works so long as they aren't fighting an insane Superman not holding back who will speed stomp them before they even figure out what to do.That's the problem. With characterization on, yeah, Silver Surfer and Quasar would totally beat Superman and maybe Richie because the worldmind would tell him what to do (Carol's cosmic awareness would tell her nothing about the red sun weakness).>>128262060>Heracles>Before Tarzan and Hugo DannerDo you even Superman?
>>128262144>Tarzan and Hugo Danneryou got me there. what about Samson? it's interesting to draw certain parallels
>>128261850>>128261946Let's be real, Kyle was asking for it. Getting a drink in Gotham in the kind of bars Bueno Excellente frequents dressed like that, he knew what was going on...
>>128262171I'd pick Moses before Samson, though there's certainly a little Samson in how Silver Age Superman interacted with Lois.
>>128249499batman would no longer be an anal virgin
>>128262060Nietzsche, but schuster madehim lex luther and inverted evil and good
>>128262303I vividly remember Bruce becoming a groupie for a pastiche of a real rockstar at some point so he's likely not a virgin by now
>>128244017Off topic questionIf you were a russian guard, and you saw superman blindfolded and with earplugs ,and there were no other soul but you, would you do it? Y'know, play with him?Me? I would do it without hesitation.
>>128262362i'd make sure he remains unblemished and unspoiled. it's the sole province of subhumans to treat prisoners in this fashion
>>128244039Neither of which are in the OP or mentioned anywhere in the thread until you did
>>128262174>>128261946>>128262174is Kyle supposed to be a delicate pretty boy kind of guy? I never really got that vibe from him
>>128262478He's the twink of the 4 corpsman, being a doodling weeb next to test pilot Hal, marine sniper John, and meathead Guy.
>>128262504you're telling me my favorite lantern is not only a twink, not only half irish and half mexican, but he's also had greasy latinx sex offender semen in his innards?
>>128262391+1 for observational skillsThor got his ass kicked by SupermanProblem?
>>128262504Hal had sex with Constantine
>>128262384Funny cw facts: female guards are the most often abusers of prisoners, by a dozen miles
>>128262645what is it about DC superheroes and sodomy?
>>128262645It's not gay if you top. Everyone knows that.
>>128262722So Superman has a straight son?
>>128262722so Clark and Kyle (and potentially Bruce) are gay?
>>128262734>Implying Jon topsHe's too much of a failure.
>>128262743I know it's weird but the only straight character is Wonder Woman. Talk about subverting expectations...
>>128262747What makes you so sure Hal topsHave you seen his ass
>>128262766she's received dick, therefore she is a homosexual man. but she likely dominates her fellow females so she's a heterosexual woman? what the fuck?
>>128262780Those are forward thrusting muscles, anonHal's practically thrusting 24/7
>>128244017Bruno already knows the outcome
>>128262810he regularly got sandwiched between Sinestro and Kilowog
>>128262851You mean Branwilla? Kilowog wasn't a thing for about two decades after Sinestro's banishment
>>128244017Speaking of homosexuality, how come lex + clark= connor (straight as an arrow), but clark + lois=jon (bottom to a pink haired sjw)?
>>128262929what makes you think this doesn't implicate the sinestro corps?
>>128262955true to his jewish self, Clark has weak genes
The fuck is going on here
>>128262955because lex is the übermensch
>>128259222Ultima looks badass though
>>128262955Lex is the straightest man around
>>128263059how many men has Lex cream pied? zero. he's not straight
>>128262959>the anxiety corps>ever getting it up
>>128263021When otto appears, everyone lets out their degenerate selves
>>128263021DC is the home of gay pride now, get with the times
>>128263123they're the receptive partners
>>128263166>/co/ is the vector of faggot prideftfy
Superman says TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTSSuperman says BLACK LIVES MATTER Superman says BELIVE ALL WOMEN Superman says MY SON IS GAY Superman says LEGALIZE GAY MARRIAGE AND ADOPTION Superman says HORMONE BLOCKERS FOR INFANTS Superman says THE CHILD CAN CONSENT Superman says THE DOG CAN CONSENT
>>128244017why is the joker alive again?
>>128249499>>128252325Because we are talking about gay rapists, can Prisoner beat Yujiro? Prisoner would be really mad at him, for how many men he has beaten up.
>>128263317To sell comicsThis is his turn from heal to face, in current year
>>128263333Yujiro is Popeye level in base and Bugs Bunny+++ level when he's trying and Beyonder+ level with demon back
>>128263357>statementsThis is how fraudchecks happen lol I support this
>>128263402Yujiro's spent time in American prison, I see
>>128263392>StatementsIt's memeforce.Yujiro basically runs on toon physics sometimes.See all the crazy shit the other characters in Baki do?Yujiro can also do that but better.
>>128263876what the fuck...
>>128263357>>128263392Yujiro is just Saitama before Saitama. A man stronger than anybody else in his series, but weak in the grand scheme of fiction, memed to be greater then anything they ever did. Saitama would get beat by half of the characters that appeared in Death Battle, Yujiro would lose to Prisoner. Let alone any of the characters people want him to fight in Death Battle.
>>128263939Yujiro is way too strong for Saitama. He'd access the speedforce as a side effect of getting struck by lightning
>>128244017Yeah thor has this...
>>128263939Yujiro is also way, way better.
>>128263876>memeforceYes, the setup for a fraucheckMemeforce is the embodiment of the saying 'a lie can travel across the whole world before the truth can get out of bed'However, when faced with the power of the truth, memeforce evaporates, itself proven nothing more than a memeSee: Goku vs Superman, Ben vs Green Lantern, Kirby vs Buu, Archie Sonic vs Wally, etc. All memeforce users get checkedAnd I support this
>>128264151memetic engines are true. you need some more testosterone. otherwise you wouldn't make such ridiculous posts.
>>128264151Memeforce would be Kirby dying
>>128263357Yujiro is weird because it's kind of apparent you had him play by the ruleset of most other shonen, he'd fucking shred through them as easily as Baki.This is a guy who can cause a city block sized shockwave through flexing his muscles. Not even "Spirit energy." I mean the sheer force of his flex.
>>128249047The CHAD CHADseidThe Virgin von Doom
>>128264151>fraucheckIf Yujiro lost his fight in DB, would there be real salt like Ben vs Green Lantern, or fake salt that these threads had like Saitama vs Popeye
>>128264429None at all
>>128264429Also, why was Ben vs Hal even debated. We KNOW that Celestialsapiens are weak as fuck
>>128263275>>128263166>>128262981Tr/a/nime says SUPERMAN LIVES IN MY HEAD RENT FREEL/a/tinx says MY THIRD WORLD PSYCHE IS PERMANENTLY SCARRED BY SUPERCHAD'S OUTERVERSAL POWER
>>128264429not really, Bakifag autism is NOTHING compared to Ben 10 and DBZ autism
>>128264429Real salt like DIO vs. Alucope.
>>128264265Kirby has since become the meme to be checkedSoon
>>128264491>real salt like this matchup with no backlash
>>128264604Soon, the Prince of All Cosmos will rip his pink tuckus to shreds
>>128256916They were just softening the blow for Saitamafags, they said something similar for Alien X
>>128264660Except in AX's case they weren't too far off. As much shit as he gets, he's pretty god damn powerful.
>>128258644Constantine VS Raidou without a doubt, Hellboy's match is with Alucard
>>128264612Why do you think the faggots had to invade everything? They're all too mindbroken to even conceive of any sort of equally or greater opposing concepts - they have to become what they hate to take it's power because they have none lol
>>128259995Wins against Randy Cunningham
>>128264696>Flying brick with minimal reality warping>Only universalSure buddy
>>128264813Yeah, I mean what I said
>>128264235>displaying blatant emotional needs>testosteroneProtest more, woman. It invigorates me
>>128264824Toonforce users go 3-0 if this fight happens
>>128264813How many characters on this show are universe level by their sayings?>Superman>Flash>GL>AX>Hulk>BrolyI don't know anything else.
>>128265007You forgot Booster Goldlol
>>128264706Gays are 1 dimensional humans. Gay is the only thing they have in their lives. So when they write something, they do everything in their power to make it about gay issues. Hence why they cling so religiously to fiction constructed by straight (men).
>>128265058they didn't give him a universal rating
>>128265140Are you gay?
>>128265134Force field's power output, blocking Superman, GL, Lobo, Doomsday, and tanking universal destruction
>>128264904>projecting after being backed into a corner and becoming moist by Yuujiro Hanma
>>128264901>Wario, Dracula, Star, Mega Man.EXE>All put at universal, same as Alien X>Sailor Galaxia, DBS cast, DC heralds, Marvel heralds, Archie Sonic, King Dedede>All put at multiversal, over Alien X>Superman, Chuck Norris, Segata Sanshiro, Popeye>All put at infinite/immeasurable, who were we talking about again?
>>128265455And?That’s a pretty small amount of characters
It’s always the guy you’re rooting for that loses
>>128266033You rooted for Korra?
>>128266033Sounds like pleb problems. Almost every single db I've had actual preference for a character has been the winner.
You want salt and cope? Here's the fight for you.
>>128266192this'll probably generate a little bit too.
>>128266192We all know Simon dies>>128266200I see no reason to care
>>128266200that's a pretty nice template
Send Kratos to the oxygen club.
>>128266192how is Simon supposed to counter the highballed size of the DC universe?
>>128266295Swan seems to believe in multiversal Kratos, what can the guy on the right do?
>>128266263>We all know Simon diesYeah but the normalfag anime sphere as well as the battleboard community like plebbit, comicvine and the vswiki usually go for Simon. That's why there's potential for salt either way.>>128266314He's not. That DC scaling makes this a no brainer for Kyle if they both just use their most straightforward attacks. But that doesn't even matter, Kyle has the capability to teleport to Simon inside and 1 shot him and there's nothing at all Simon could do about it.
>>128266314It takes less than a minute for Simon to will himself to multiverse size
>>128266481Frankly, this isn’t like Ben vs Hal.Both are just going to keep out willpowering each other
>>128266389Firstly?Be in a worse game. Secondly?Be way more powerful
>>128266389Has comparable showings to Kratos but over even more pantheons. Titan Quest went a little retarded with the sheer number of mythological figures you fuck up>singlehandedly invaded Asgard and won>beat Odin, Thor, Baldr and Freyja 1v4. Baldr died in the fight.>beat Mimir>beat the frost giant king>beat Loki and killed Surtr.>killed Nidhogg>killed 10 actual stars from chinese myth>beat the Dragon King and the chinese archer god>the Jade Emperor didn't want to fight him>killed Akhenaten empowered by some gods>killed the Lernean Hydra>killed Typhon and later permakilled his soul>beat Hades and permakilled his soul.>killed 5 other beings on par with the Olympians>killed Tartarus>Killed the typical mythological characters like the 3 gorgons, the minotaur, Cerebus, charon the boat ferryman>killed Tiamat>prevented like 5 separate apocalypses
>>128266973This nigga is going to shred Kratos
>>128266973killing gods is a meme because not all fictional depictions of the gods are cut from the same cloth, and Kratos has multiversal wank
>>128267189So does this guy if you accept the myths that go along with the gods. Exact same way Kratos got wanked.
>>128267239Kratos has wankers doubling down with flowery novels and asking former devs loaded questions that boil down to "can Kratos do X?" and being answered with "yeah"
>>128266398>plebbit, comicvine and the vswikiDon't project your own level of stupidity now
>>128266481>taking a whole minute to do something>when fighting a Green "1.04 × 10^92 times light speed" LanternI shiggy diggy
>>128267314>projectI'm not projecting anything retard. I'm just saying what Death Battle has gone and will go by.
>>128267315>1.04 × 10^92 times light speedis this from probing the universe?
>>128267344Yes and that's not even the fastest you can wank GLs.
>>128267383what's the fastest? transtime velocity scaling off Hal making sneedforce anomalies?
>>128267400>Green Lantern Vol 2 #63 September 1968>Hal Jordan searches the entire volume of the universe in a heartbeat (0.6 seconds) with 4 probes>The universe expanded to 60 trillion light years in half a second, or 120 trillion light years in a second>31536000 seconds in a year, 13.772 billion years since the Big Bang, meaning the DC Universe is at least 4.3431379e+17 seconds old>The DC Universe expanded 120 trillion light years each of those seconds, so the DC Universe is at least 5.2117655e+31 light years in radius.>If we assume that the DC Universe is a sphere, that means that it’s 5.93e+95 light years in volume>Hal searched this entire volume in 0.6 seconds with his constructs, which is 7.8e+102 (7.8 tretrigintillion) times the speed of light for each individual probe> 7.8 TRETRIGINTILLION (MORE THAN A GOOGOL) TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT IN 1968>>128267460and this is 50 zeroes faster than what I put above lmao
>>128267582That universe size alone is going to net any DC herald a victory isn’t it?
>>128267670From the horses mouth.
>>128267670The moment they included it in Goku Black vs Reverse Flash, anyone that's not a direct counter to their power automatically lost their match with a high tier DC character.
>>128267802who's that flamey guy going off about this pseudo science?
>>128268019Superman. That's what he sometimes looks like after being in a star
>>128268019Who the fuck do you think that looks like?
>>128267582in a heartbeat? whose heartbeats? Hal's? clearly this is a googolplex of googolplexes of zeroes, chud. stop lowballing Hal.
>>128268162Hell maybe it never beats.
>>128267802i don't get it. it's been a while so my memory's hazy but didn't they combine the actual big bang with the imperiex big bang to make a souped up version of the already colossal big bang?
>>128268197Also doesn’t the universe slow down?
>>128267331Just like they went by Thor's stats?
>>128268240it does slow down to about light speed eventually. the calcs need to be revised if this was omitted
>>128268240>>128268265Depends on what universe model is correct. It might even be expanding faster.
>>128268247who cares about thor lmao?
>>128268300seems irrational to assume the expansion is accelerating from that initial point, no?
>>128268327There's a decent chance our universe is doing exactly that.
>>128268372what's the most commonly accepted model? our universe also doesn't take that insane initial expansion into account
>>128268393That one mentioned, of increasing expansion due to weaker gravity influence over the distance, ontop of dark energy acting to push things away from one another. Has been the most favoured since the later 90s. It's likely to tear the universe apart eventually.After that it's probably the "flat" universe which is of a slowing down due to gravity, then eventually a rapid increase again when dark energy comes out on top of gravity.Then stuff like a big crunch where gravity wins out and slows down the universe, which is them pulled together faster and faster.
>>128265232>displaying blatant emotional needs>projectinglollmao
>>128266033Who roots?Are you fucking swine?
>>128268632ah. so the acceleration is increasing but the expansion rate is decreasing? it's only logical for a 3D plane
>>128266877If Kyle's got the white ring, we're talking straight up life force shenanigans on top of willpower haxKyle becomes essentially god, relatively. I don't see what Simon can do to or about that
>>128258397>smt is only city level universal walmartsit is shitposting, anon.the last sector is primal earth. if we use the same logic they used for walmart then the last sector is earth size and other sectors are not there because each of them are in different dimensions. kind of like Asgard and mephisto's realms
>>128267582>it did thiswas it shown?
>>128269443i doubt it. post it
>>128269452The probe thing? It's in the death battle cast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQujpsgd428I don't have the scans on me right now.
>>128269452Are you new here?
>>128269474>34:14cool, cool, coolbut the drones were SHOWN travelling acroos all the universe.bear in mind if they didn't, then they are fraud checked.there are a lot of characters with claims of shaking universes or controlling universes but they are not considered universal because we never seen the whole universes being shaken or manipulated. but when we do see planets or x being manipulated so we put them in planetary/x tier.it would be a hipocrisy not to fraud check the drones.>>128269588i don't see the whole universe there. so no.
>>128269624says right there there's lanterns throughout the universe and the SOS was meant to reach them all
>>128269624>i don't see the whole universe there. so no.You want them to depict the entire universe in a mostly irrelevant panel like that from the 60s that's just meant to convey a little bit of info? Are you retarded?
>>128269649>sayI don't want claims or hyperboles. I want feats.anyone can claim universal scales. just look at weeb shit (naruto, dbz, bleach).claims mean nothing
>>128269678Nooo, Stop fraud-checking large scales: the post
>>128269679>I want feats.It shows you them on the page and says what they do, then provides a result of them being used. Stop with the baiting.
>>128269702>baitnice strawman>It shows you them (feats) on the page and says what they do, then provides a result of them being usedYou could argue the same for basically your favorite comic, cartoon, whatever. it doesn't mean it is right. it shows no feats. it shows a statement and a localized drone.I'm giving you two options here:the acceptance of hyperboles (what you are doing) or fraud-checking them (what I prefer).I won't accept anything else.
>>128269791>a worthless replyi accept your concession
>>128269775>>128269699>fraud checked>was used in a death battlelollmaoget rekt kid