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The Wreckers have one last chance to stop Mayhem from pulling off their most ambitious scheme yet—but will this mission herald the end of the team, or a new beginning?
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Thank you a lot anon. I bought it yesterday I liked it.
Love Breakdown and Knockout being legit pieces of shit but I am also sad about Circuit ;_;
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The End
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>>128232857
Covers
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>>128232830
This hyped me up. I really hope it gets a sequel, just as the SG series.
We all know the ongoing can't take even more characters, so if we want these guys to get some proper chemistry and development we need some sort of sequel. I really need SS and Impactor, man. Glad Ironfist might be in this too.
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if they make a sequel to this I hope they use even more obscure fuckers as villains
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I hope Minerva makes it out of this just fine.
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>>128233929
I think they would develop dictator Knockout and his simp the few helpers down the line. But you are probably right and they would first have to introduce others to build up a team.
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Did they just kill off Submarauder again? Or was it just his shell?
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>>128235462
I wonder about that too.
Someone must have controlled the body. Did they (probably Submarauder himself) sacrifice themselves willingly? Or was there some fight within Mayhem itself? It seems inefficient to kill their own members. They did the same with Axer.
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>>128232497
Motherfuckin Skyquake in his OG colours I love it
>>128232857
There it is, knew this was a work. Letting himself get shot to bring down the wreckers was a nice touch
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>>128236019
Isn't that Submarauder himself detonating the shell and walking Minerva out?
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>>128236454
>Motherfuckin Skyquake in his OG colours I love it
Finally another man of taste. I thought I was the only one who wanted to see more of that guy in IDW1. Can't wait to see this gang acting and being mean.
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>>128232830
I see Whirl, I see Iron Fist, I see Star Saber, and holy shit the rescue bots Bulkhead and Chasem plus Springer
hell yeah
can't name the rest
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>>128233929
imagine Steve the Vehicon making a guest appearance as cannon-fodder
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>>128236493
You are right. I wasn't aware of the size difference between his shell and the normal bots.
It's still weird. Why did they ruthlessly kill Axer (was he out of the loop of what they were planning) and how could they be sure Knockout was gonna survive that? It's a shot right into his core.
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>>128236808
Gotta love the psychos
>>128236821
I think that's Topspin next to Bulkhead
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Thank you OP, good issue!
Just wish the series would have been longer. I feel like it could work with six issues or something.
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>>128236928
oh you're right, the vents give it away
>also more sky-blue, less navy blue
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>>128236955
I still remember Prime fondly and the interactions between Knock Out and Starscream
they were fun, wonder if we get any of those in the comic
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>>128232830

>Cyberverse Rack n Ruin

Booo.
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>>128232830
Who is the bot under Ironfist?
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>>128237056
is it Ruckus?

I never noticed how many Transformers there were until now, across several continuities
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>>128232830
Star Saber's and Whirl's existence make me coom.
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>>128237141

You getting his HasLab figure?
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>>128237123
A lot like pokemon in that there are hundreds of them and each of them, even the lowliest jobberbot, has a diehard fan out there somewhere
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>>128237123
I think it is but he's part of the Rise. Contacting him is going to tip of the Decepticons.
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>>128237168
you gotta catch 'em all, including all the seeker repaints
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>>128237170
I think Ruckus is also a member of the decepticons now, after Exarchon took over his body
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>>128232726
Look at these two dirty liars, holy hell.
They remind of pic related. Sentinel and BD are also both simping hard for evil those twinks. I wonder into what kind of hellhole KO will turn Velocitron into. I mean Mayhem had a legit point, but something is telling me they will only use that to gain voters and power.
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>>128237189
God I wish there was a Transformers game like that. Just let me catch Getaway and train him. And imagine all the Damus evolutions.
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>>128237630
Me too.
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>>128236808
>The Skomiloch Territories are in a region of space with an unusual local environment. The whole area is enveloped in a gas cloud over 9000 light-years long. The sun there is dying, and the color spectrum in the area is skewed, leading Transformers operating there to adopt unique camouflage to blend in.

Why the fuck haven't we had this acid trip area depicted in a show or comic yet?
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>>128236907
My guesses:
-Axer was out of the loop. He was a true believer who really wanted change on Velocitron, just not what the Decepticons had in mind. So he was a perfect patsy.
-The shot was a blunt tipped harpoon or something so it wouldn't be fatal.

I saw it coming but the Decepticons in this continuity truly do live up to their name. This stuff is great honestly. As I was scrolling down and saw Thunderclash saying "don't worry Minerva will be back Knockout will vouch for her" my heart sank.
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>>128238708
Fuck this is cool I didn't know that either. Why wasting such a good setting?
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>>128238806
I absolutely did not expect them to kill Circuit. I was sure his survival was a given now that he was safe. It's realistic to not always survive headshots, but man.
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>>128239173
It felt kinda weird. He was up just long enough for the final broadcast then dead and we didn't even get a sentimental moment of him being like "One last show."? Leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Guess they're going with the implication that he held on for that.
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>>128240215
I thought it was pretty badly done. I've seen people say they took him off life support to let him film that one last show (even though he hated being their cameraman) or that he died because Minerva wasn't there to keep him alive, but the way it plays out doesn't really give much indication.
Honestly the whole team was pretty incompetent and the non-response to Minerva's imprisonment is pretty damning of them. I was kind of hoping Ricochet and/or Hot Shot died because they didn't do anything. Leadfoot was a bigger help than most of the Wreckers and he isn't even officially on the team.
Too bad because the Decepticon plot was intriguing and enjoyable. This continuity really makes you hate their guts (in a good way).
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>>128237123
That's what I love about the comics. They have way more time and side stories to show a ton of bots or give them stories. Cartoons are way more restricted, the best we get is stuff like Cyberverse, but TF series usually run for three seasons and in case for CV it's just one and a half thanks to the short episodes.
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This is why I felt like it needed 5 issues. Circuit's end in particular feels like it had to be squeezed in, and looking back there aren't any scenes they could have easily skipped to make room for this. It also needed an epilogue in which the team has time to reflect upon what has happened. The end seems to imply they are completely unaware of KO/BD's true face but they probably suspect things, considering all that has happened (and the fact that Mayhem seems to have disappeared).
>but the way it plays out doesn't really give much indication
The scene could have been indeed very touching and cool. I assume his life signals were fading, so instead of letting him die unconscious they brought him back to have a last short fun time. But the fact that he recorded it leaves a slightly bad aftertaste. I would have preferred them to have a meal, watch the space together or perform some new move in front of him, one they created for him.
>I was kind of hoping Ricochet and/or Hot Shot died because they didn't do anything
Same. The others are all unique, these two are likeable but they are just the two additional joking dudes to lighten the mood. Circuits deserved better. I liked this series though, and the KO twist was pretty cool. Since they were gay from the start I wondered if they had the guts to make them genuinely evil. And yeah, the Cons are fucking pieces of shit here.
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>>128241130
>would have preferred them to have a meal
A little out of place for this particular franchise
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>>128241210
Well, yeah. I mean anything that is a social event that doesn't forces Circuits to perform any kind of work. Maybe engex drinking. Doesn't matter if you are drunk if you gonna die anyway.
Wait, does engex even exist in IDW2? I can't remember ever having seen a bar here. And considering that they have to restrict the energon consumption there shouldn't be any.
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>>128241291
>I can't remember ever having seen a bar here
Sentinel Prime was killed in a bar wasn't he? Or a diner or something. The distinction between food and drink in TF has always been a bit fuzzy. Sometimes they drink from energon cubes, sometimes they chew it like gum.
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>>128241291
I don't think there has been any reference to eating or drinking so far.
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Thunderclash isn't the most competent but I hope he remains a part of the Wreckers, he would be a great character to develop. The joking comrade that realises the situation has gotten too bad to help anybody by making fun videos.
I think that deep down this is rather a coping mechanism than naivety. He fought in the war, he has most likely seen hell just as Cyclonus did, he just wants to believe in a narrative that is better. His explosive outbursts and sudden reactions like >>128232386 seem to hint that to me. He is an interesting character and calling him a naive nice guy doesn't do him justice imo.
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>Sentinel Prime was killed in a bar wasn't he?
This is exactly the one and only hint I remembered. Sentinel was in a bar. I think this is why there was that sign "Nothing for weak engines" or what it was. Forget it I just found that panel. Yeah those are clearly barstools. Maybe they were allowed to drink it but only a limited amount per month. RIP.
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Man, this whole mini was so underwhelming.
I don't know what I was expecting from secret agent stuntmen Wreckers, but I didn't think it'd be so boring.
4 issues in and we still know so little about these characters. How did they meet, how did they start their team, what was their craziest stunt, what was their most significant inside job?
And the conflict was so banal, the race was unimaginative, the attacks were the most basic "villains show up, fire some guns and escape".
It's like the writer thought the readers just wanted to see the characters talking in a bar and nothing else was worthy of any effort.
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>>128242852
Eh, I think the interactions and the twist were pretty good. I agree about the actual Wreckers' story and the Mayhem conflict. The first issue was fine imo, second too since it lead up to the conflict, but I think after that we needed a clash between Thunderclash and Aileron that split them apart for a while. Emotionally I mean, not an official break-up of the team. And this issue or maybe these two issues should have been used to delve further into these lingering conflicts. Tell us why Clash refuses to see the harsh truth, what did he experience in war? What did Aileron experience? And how did all of them meet?
Altogether this would have needed two issues I think though. If you want a better conflict with Mayhem (again, another point I agree with) you would need two issues again, with the last issue that would be around 7.

I love the mini-comics but I hate how they settled down for those four issue lengths. It's simply not enough to tell many of the stories. It works for Deathsaurus/Cliff because it's only two characters and one personal conflict. Even JRo who was usually a fast-paced writer needed more than four issues for most of his arcs.
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>>128242544
It might have been synthetic for all I know.
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>>128232497
I assume Xaaron will end up in Knock Out's rape dungeon now.
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>>128237165
Yeah maybe, I am still trying to get his FT version too though, I really want that.
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>>128232554
I am surprised Breakdown agreed to that plan. It seems like Submarauder was deliberately aiming higher, but one miniscule mistake or a little movement and it could have hit the spark at this distance.
Do we even know how Submarauder controlled his shell? I do not remember if that was ever said in another continuity.
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>>128245122
Good luck!
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>>128243950
ngl itd be pretty kino if the real wreckers first mission was to rescue Xaaron from the crlutches of a despotic knockout
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>>128248106
Damn
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TRANSFORMERS: THE BASICS on TRANSMUTATE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnKbVoVKtyU
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>>128243950
it could be worse, at least Xaaron won't get starved like the senate
that's actually pretty horrifying
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>>128248106
Oh that's a good idea I never considered this possibility. It makes sense since they also have to get Minerva back and I doubt Knock Out is willing to let her go. The Wreckers probably still trust him while they are changing their MO to face the new big enemy, only to realise later that KO is a much worse enemy and that Cybertron is lost. Plus there is ExRuckus, whom Thunderclash deems loyal because he doesn't know.
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>>128250370
>make character as a metaphor for crippling disability
>everyone decides they want to fuck her
many such cases
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>>128251754
Tarn is a walking insecurity and mental illness too and he's one of the most popular IDW characters. I think people just jump onto weirdos because they are rare and unusual, fiction is over-saturated with functioning well-adapted characters.
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>>128232857
Thanks, but why everything has to look so generic?
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God I want to fuck Breakdown
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>>128252134
every Transformers character has some sort of malfunction
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>>128253468
Well, some of the people there are pretenders, who had simple inner robots. Knock Out looks like a Jazz redeco for an unannounced or speculative Jazz toy redeco.
IDW2's done it before - The "Galaxy Upgrade" Optimus design showed up in the comics WAY before the actual toy was ever announced.
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The TRIGGER toy (concept by Sakamoto, the OTHER Sakamoto)
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>>128242852
>the race was unimaginative,
The race was the part I actually liked, that and the Decepticon twist at the end. Everything else surrounding it was kind of sub-par and you're definitely right about how we got to know the main characters.
I did like the art a lot though. Pretty pictures and so-so writing...the opposite of the main book for me.
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>>128248106
If their first mission isn't to rescue poor MINERVA I'll wish death on all of them.
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>>128255231
>how we got to know the main characters
*didn't get to know
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>>128255247
Xaaron is cuter than Minerva.
But honestly, the first thing I want them to do is to search for the fucker that murdered Circuits and get revenge. This shit bothers me.
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>>128255231
The race was a bit of a letdown to me I think it would have worked better if it was two issues and showing more fights and racing. It was so short that I didn't really feel the gravity of it. I liked the rest though but I also wish it was more about the Wreckers themselves. As characters. It would have been perfect if it was the second arc within a longer series about this team. This would also have made the graveness of the Mayhem conflict more glaring.
Like let the first arc/four issues be about a generic harmless mission but use it to develop the characters and tell us about their past. And after that we get this arc here. Would have been perfect. And even the deaths and the framing would have hit harder.

I feel like a lot of comic writers are too afraid of boring the audience these days. Often so much that they ironically skip the parts that would make the series more exciting. They are so afraid of not shoving in action into every issue that they rather skip fundamental character development and lore than a random action scene. I mean I only partly blame them. They aren't completely wrong if you look at the reactions. But I still think that a well written actionless issue can hype people up better than an action-heavy part that misses the central ingredients to make people care about the action in the first place, namely developed characters they can root for and worry about.
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>>128255271
Save Minerva and avenge Circuit.
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>>128232857
>turn gay
>become a despot
What if Cosmos is next?
And who is gonna save /ourboys/ Scrounge and the emirate?
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>>128256661
Knock Out has always been gay
Decepticons just attract power hungry cunts
>and cannibals, sadists and opportunistic jerks
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>>128232535
What a pretty colorful bot. I love you, Watermelon boy.
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>>128252134
Transmutate is quite literally to fucked to live though, they had to completely redesign her to just so they could accept they want to bone up on her.
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>more Milne health issues
I can't take this anymore, why does luck hate this based dude?
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>>128232830
>bravest, most loyal bots I've ever met
>Whirl
>Impactor
>Lockdown

Thunderclash, I think you might be a poor judge of character.
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>>128259084
He tries his best, he is just not very good at it. He reminds me of Sentinel, from the same continuity.
That said, these characters MIGHT be different this time, but considering that Ruckus is on that list I highly doubt it. Knowing Ruckley Star Saber will probably be a toned down, good version of IDW1 Saber too, similar to Sentinel and his IDW1 counterpart. Which would still mean that he might be hot-headed, same with Whirl and his cynicism. But we will see soon, I hope.
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>>128260368
Which later got redecoed as goth Starscream
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>>128260389
And then again as I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-Dai-Atlas, King Atlas.
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>>128260368
I kind of want to see his adventures as enforcer of KO or whatever type of job he will assume.

Wait. Why was there never two ongoings like MtmtE/RiD with one of them being a story from the Con's PoV? The two faction war setting is made for this.
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>>128257455
The entire Predator team had some wack-ass colours. And no, they're not G2, just from the late-game paint explosion era of G1.
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>>128260457
Their rival team had NEON PINK WINDSHIELDS
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>>128260457
>Skyquake and his five sons
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>>128232830
There's something off about Thunderclash having seniority over Impactor
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>>128261215
Impactor will cuck his role away from him I am sure. There is no way guys like him, Lockdown, Ruckus, Whirl, Star Saber and such won't cause trouble in that regard.
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>>128232497
>Predators
fuck yeah
I don't know why they are always forgotten when they are so cool
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>>128261286
>There is no way guys like him, Lockdown, Ruckus, Whirl, Star Saber and such won't cause trouble in that regard
Since Ruckus is literally Exarchon, he obviously might cause problems.
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>>128260453
I hope if they do they keep the fact that he's a huge body mod nerd
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I kinda like him but this Thunderclash is the type of character I want to see getting bullied.
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>>128254797
They're using molds of everything ever done, got it, but why has to look so dull and emotionless?
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>>128262467
I guess it's just Lawrence's style that doesn't work for you. I like it, though rather for the light-hearted scenes.
Although maybe I am just too influenced my Milne and such. The cartoons look even way stupider but I didn't really complain about them. They have the advantage of movement though, cannot imagine Cyberverse to work as a sequence of static images. But I wouldn't call the comic style here emotionless, I think it's rather the garish colors I have a problem with. I feel like >>128232857 should have been more shadowed for example. To emphasize the gravity of the scene here.
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>>128260457
>wack-ass colours
The colors are fine
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>>128232580
is he okay?
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>>128262675
I didn't say they were bad.
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>>128262705
It's just the shell that died RIP
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>>128262705
The thing that's blowing up is just a battlesuit of the guy that's blowing it up.
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>>128262776
On the same note, that octopus guy? Not an octopus. He's a crabformer wearing an octopus guy suit.
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>>128262837
And the skull guy is actually some sort of hovertank deal.
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>>128262837
What the fuck the monster face >>128232932 isn't real?
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>>128262862
And here, the two guys guarding Minerva are also Pretenders, just out of their shell. The one on the left turns into a """"""jet""""""" and usually cosplays as a bug monster...
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>>128232830
woah hey Smashdown
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>>128262968
And the one on the right doesn't hide his robot mode in a humanoid shell, but his jet mode inside a car!
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>>128262973
I gave up finding out about who that fucker was. Now reading the few sentences his wikia entry has I am still none the wiser.
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>>128262997
Now THIS guy would make some good anti-Functionist.
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>>128232711

The weird proportions the artist is using makes everyone look like a midget or minicon.

Are these guys minicons?
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>>128260368
>>128262997
Thank you Mariotte
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>>128263343
Seems pretty clear cut to me. What part are you having difficulty with?
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>Disguise has always been a key component of Transformer operations on other worlds. Pretenders attempt to take this concept to the next level. Pretenders are Transformers fitted with special external armor shells that can disguise their very nature as robots. Rather than hiding themselves as the machinery or vehicles of a world, Pretender Shells[1] allow a robot to take on the appearance of a native life form itself.

>On top of its exploration and infiltration uses, a shell can also function as powerful battle armor, aid in self-repair, and even function independently of its robot as a second combatant mentally controlled by its "wearer". The major drawback of the technology is that the core robot will feel whatever pain is inflicted on the shell, sometimes even more strongly than pain inflicted on the robot itself.
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>>128263763
I still don't trust him.
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If nothing else, the wreckers series is making me look forward to the Leadfoot figure we're supposedly getting in the next amazon line, he seems neat.
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Skyquake is for Scrash
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>>128267518
yes
>>128266985
yes
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>>128267518
translation?
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>>128232386
>>128232830
Ive got a bad feeling that thunderclash is gonna have a massive ptsd fueled breakdown at some point down the line, leading to impactor wresting control of the wreckers
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>>128267518
Ok
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>>128270564
Oh fuck
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>>128261352
>>128261286
>>128270564
future wreckers is going to b e a wild ride
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>>128265144
He probably self-inserts into Breakdown.
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>>128267518
I had to google who "Scrashu-sama" is.
Why do Sakamoto comics always look so cute? I wish someone would translate all of Legends.
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>>128260493
Rotorstorm was my favorite toy when I was a kid.
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>>128270564
Would unironically be cool as long as it doesn't delve too much into misery porn for TC. The whole series gave off that vibe to me. TC's character arc seems to build up to some sort of breakdown. He is the nervous, insecure guy that cover his anxiety with performances and LARPing. He seems to be quite angry whenever someone isn't watching if you observe him throughout the comics.
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>>128269859
non exists
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>>128273925
I wish Kanji-tomo wouldn't just translate hovered kanji but explain the syntax. The lack of grammar in Japanese is as much of a blessing as it is a curse.
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>>128273026
because Sakamoto oozes passion that shows he truly loves the series (except Victory for some reason which can be shown with Star Saber's lack of appearances in Legends and Deathsaurus' nonexistent appearance in Legends despite every single main villain making an appearance in some way in it and Deathsaurus still being alive according to a Zone story page)
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>>128253847
Perfect, because I want Knockout.
You have the blue one I'll take the red one, Anon.
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>>128274068
Odd. Maybe it's because it's Brave Zero.
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>>128232726
The old ThunderCHAD would have NTR'ed Breakdown and seize the throne for himself.
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>>128275203
I guess Rodimus will be better this time around.



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