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Can we have a Mighty Max thread?
I remember the show being very crafty when it came to do both the "toy commercial" and "educational" portion they were ordered to do.

If a reboot ever happens, will it keep the charm of the original?
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>>128209960
took some stones to make the show as dark as they did at the time
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>>128210095
Indeed, specially considering the series was produced in the first place with the goal of being a toy commercial.
Yet, the guys behind making it managed to do that in a subtle way that actually serves the plot, yet you could still watch the show and say: "Hey! That's from the toys!"

Plus, they killed a character pretty much in every cold opening... and if a character didn't die in one, two characters died the next...
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>>128210126
>Indeed, specially considering the series was produced in the first place with the goal of being a toy commercial.

well, from about the 80's to late 90's they were all just really vehicles to sell toys
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>>128209960
And the show never had a release on anything like DVDs, right? All we have are the episodes that were recorded from TV?
>>128210095
>show ends with the heroes losing and only max surviving so he has to go back to the beginning to try again
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>>128210164
>And the show never had a release on anything like DVDs, right?
Yes, that's the awful true... I believe some syndication and copyright bullshit is involved.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZHpB2D0iNo&ab_channel=Inno

>that little boy just watched a man die
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>>128210205
And not even a random stranger, they knew each other!
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>>128210205
>clip ends with max about to make a quip
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>>128209960
Hopefully a reboot draws the mom more in a milf style
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>>128210285
if they did a reboot it would either be milquetoast or they would go balls to the wall
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>>128210126
took some stones to make it considering the 'moral majority' was in full culture war mode at the time

kinda forgotten now but it paved the way for a lot of shows, and you would still be hard pressed to find a kids show that goes as far today
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>>128210303
If there's was a reboot, I would like to see the new design for Bea as a martial-artist asian. Since I had crush on her as a kid, I was wondering if she's asian even though she doesn't looked like one. (Maybe half asian?)
But more of that, I also want Bea as a main assistant for Max and the crew since the creators of the original show, were barely used her role in two episodes and then wasted her completely as a minor character.

Even though I'm fully aware to the reason that this show was "boys show", (which I disagree on) I still thinks she's deserved better care in the original.
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>>128209960
Max's mom was hot, that's mostly what I remember. The toy itself was basically Polly Pocket for boys, surprised it got a series at all. The cap being a teleportation device was interesting but Max himself was pretty lacking in the Chosen One department. The episode where they unite the hero team to get slaughtered was pretty edgy for a kids cartoon I must say.
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>>128210761
Which is why I'm surprised shows like Ben10 are so fucking pussy weak given that Mighty Max influenced them?
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>>128210905
thanks to PSA's people pay more attention to what goes on in these shows so its harder to exercise creative control then it used to
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>>128210871
>Polly Pocket
Speaking of that, considering they are sister products by Bluebird Toys and distributed by Mattel, has there been a mention of a "Max" in the most current Polly Pocket cartoon?

Just to know if the people are fun enough to include such an easter egg
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>>128210871
>Max himself was pretty lacking in the Chosen One department
I don't know, the show did work around Max learning and becoming a better hero as the series advanced... or you meant that as him being a clear 90's product kid? (You know, too cool for school, snarky, etc...)
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>>128211488
Max wasn't really skilled, he just ran away most of the time. I liked the series it's just the toys depicted him more of a trickster which didn't come out as well in the animation.
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>>128211516
Oh yeah, I can see where you're going.

Max did came up with solutions and tricks to get himself out of trouble, though.
I always remember the episode where he gets trapped in an astral plane and literally talks his way out of the realm by pulling out a loophole abuse against the gate guardian who, basically, zapped away from existance anyone who tried that.

But I agree that it would have been cool of him not just being able to talk his way out of trouble (which failed more often than not), but also coming with out of the box solutions... especially to contrast it with Virgil's by the book method or Norman's "punch first, ask later"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SekvpIsaOgY&t=114s&ab_channel=GregXB3

looking back this got pretty intense for a saturday morning show
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>>128210285
I always find it funny that Max's mom was obviously into Norman, and Max was 110% willing to be Norman's wingman to get his mom laid, even straight-up Norman to go for it.
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>>128212194
*even straight-up telling Norman to go for it.
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>>128212212
Was that in a particular episode or a recurring joke?
Whatever the case, remember when it happened so I can search it?
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>>128212249
I don't remember the episode, but Max's mom was definitely low-key flirting with Norman, who was slightly flustered by her attentions and called her "Mrs Mighty One" or something like that, and when she left Max was basically "Dude, it's cool, she's into you, go for it"

Again, I haven't seen an episode of the show in about 25 years (aside from Norman's Conquest, and I got stuff from that wrong before) so apologies if I'm misremembering stuff.
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>>128212294
No biggie, I also often misremember stuff from this show... one of the prices we must pay for the lack of a proper re-release

I'll search the episodes where she has a main role and check them out.
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>>128210126
You also had "The Inhumanoids" with some gruesome ideas that seem heavy for a show of its time.

I know cartoons had a lot of restrictions, but I suspect that many of them also had apathetic writers who just didn't try adding more creativity or edge.
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Most episodes are on YouTube, and some beautiful people are working on remastering them. Great series. I taped some episodes over my aunts wedding on vhs, my mom was pissed.
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>>128212979
same with this show;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcJCJ-MtpF8&t=2s&ab_channel=yogunmm

opening five minutes episode one have a bloody smear of whats left of someone and a guy who steals and throws brains
pretty sure censors were just handwaving shows at this time cause no one gave a fuck about cartoons
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>>128213219
Syndicated cartoons had fewer restrictions because they didn't have to deal with network broadcast standards and practices departments, just their own.
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>>128209960
Don't wish for a reboot. You already know it will be called The Mighty Maxine and your star character would a tranny. All supporting characters would have some mental illness or far left agenda to push.
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>>128213641
wonder if the streaming era will change that
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>>128213702
don't be negative
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>>128213348
Jesus Christ
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>>128210285
If they did one then it would be filled with bullshit like it's normal these days.
In a perfect world it would be a reboot that takes notes from both the original show, the toy lore and adds more cohesion and backstory to everything.
I personally would've liked if Max's cap was in fact a shape-shifting helmet that changed to look like a cap and having more utilitarian abilities apart of opening portals.
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>>128213348
I remember this, damn
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Was certainly clever of them to make the cliffhanger kind of a conclusion, even if it were obvious that they still had plans for the series. Can only wonder if they would have done a season of Max using his new knowledge to make things turn out for the better, or just do a movie where he speedruns his missions and tries to outwit Skullmaster.
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>>128219433
Well the ending was that Max rewinded time back to the point where he got his cap, but with all his memories and experiences he had up to the grand finale untouched which would allow him to alter the events. That would've been pretty interesting to see how he'd do his adventures with the wisdom he got from pre-rewinding.
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Blu--ray maybe coming. Studiocanal updated their site with HD images.
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>>128213106
Pretty sure every episode is up, just with varying quality. Still, that is nice that people are trying to restore the show as best as possible. Fucking hate that so many shows are lost to time because nobody preserved the masters
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More images at https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Mighty-Max-Cartoon-19931995-Released/id/70727

Source of this images should be https://www.studiocanal.com/title/mighty-max-1994/

As far as I know these images have never been released in this quality before.
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>>128219652
Just have to wonder if the universe would let him. Virgil often warned him about trying to defy fate and all that shit, so it stands to reason that if Max tries to use his foreknowledge too much, he either could risk getting destroyed by the cosmos, or just causing even worse events because of the butterfly effect. And we know that Virgil has some awareness as well, since he added the "And don't be late!" to his original message when the package with the hat arrives, which could mean other characters know about what's going to happen.
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>>128219655
>>128219729
That would be pretty fucking crazy, especially since so many times we heard that the show was supposedly lost media when it came to the original masters for every episode. Long as they can up the quality as best as possible for every episode, don't censor shit, and mark it at a decent price, I'd happily grab a copy.
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>>128210905
Kids cartoons are less violent and serious than they were in the past. Dragon Ball Z aired after school on kids channels. Dragon Ball Super, which was neutered compared to what came before, aired on Adult Swim.
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>>128210164

There is a guy restoring the episodes from the old VHS tapes he is hunting down. So far he's stop cause he can't find anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeLNxwZwAlMslfAuZR96aZg/videos

He's got 10 episodes so far.
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>>128219740
I think it would be more like trying to save/unscrew certain things and have it so that Virgil and Norman survive. But yeah, fighting fate has its risks...BUT WOULD WANT TO SEE MAX FIGHT FATE FOR THE SAKE OF HIS FRIENDS. Even if the cosmos would want to gang on him for that.
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>>128219729
this will be really cool
even the Polly Pocket direct to video movies from like, 15 years ago have been seeing rereleases on streaming and VOD services
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>>128209960
Has the restoration project gone anywhere lately or is the guy still lacking good sources?
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>>128210285
100% chance of Max being a strong black girl if there was a reboot.
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>>128219834
He'd also want to save the heroes from the season 1 finale, given they all died basically due to his inexperience. Now that he knows basically everything, Max would probably try to avoid their deaths as much as possible. So having the possible threat of fate or whatever getting its shit in tizzy over Max trying to have his cake and eat it would be an interesting plot twist, and could even be a means of stopping SKullmaster, maybe by having him try to one up Max when it comes to abusing his knowledge, and getting wiped from existence completely.
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>>128220049
Wow. That would be a nice plot twist. To make Skullmaster delete himself by fate by having Max screwing with it in order for the former to one-up the latter.
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>>128210864
Is this some kind of deep cover psy-op?

>>128210285
Anyway, a current year reboot would fucking suck ass. It's gonna take 30 years at least before we get decent media again.
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>>128220114
I think the guy just likes Asians a bit much and sees it in characters who weren't
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>>128211466
it would be fun if Max was a student at Polly's school in the Polly Pocket direct to video movies
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>>128220238
after all, the Mighty Max series and the Polly Pocket direct to video movies were both developed by Rob Hudnut
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Are the episodes free on YouTube?
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>>128220252
Yes, however they are in bad quality. Like >>128219829 said, some guy restoring some episodes in high quality.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!!
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>>128220322
>>128219829

Good Luck to that guy I've been hunting down those VHS tapes my self and I can't find any of them in my neck of the woods, but if I do fine some new one I'll be sure to get in contact and send then to him.
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>>128220563
At least there's some hope for a proper release if those HD screens are anything to go by, though obviously it's too soon to say if it's anything worthwhile or just "hey, check out these bitchin' cells we dug up, cool huh?"
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>>128220049
>>128219834
>>128219740
sounds like the perfect starting point for a reboot/follow series
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>>128220667
Also time loops are a popular trope right now
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>>128220667
How? If things played out like that, Max's duty would probably be done with, if not the cap's as well, since it's more or less implied that Skullmaster was the only major threat the Cap-bearers have ever had. If Max is able to destroy him, then that would probably do it, outside of maybe occasionally having to pop across the world to slap a crazed scientist or a furfag.
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>>128220718
>implying in our day and age there is a shortage of furfags to fursecute
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>>128220783
Most furfags aren't turning themselves into giant, murderous monsters
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>>128220806
its a cartoon, liberties can be taken with realism
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>>128210205
i never thought paulsen was a good fit for max.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN22MnAKFtY&ab_channel=JacobMachine-M4CH1N3

some guy edited the edited series into a movie
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>>128209960
This and Pirates of Dark Water could have been pioneers of american cartoon story telling. Corporations can sell the souls of others because they lack their own.
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>>128221002
I'm surprised that Dark Water has been mostly forgotten
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>>128213348
does she have any fan art?
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>>128220825
The fuck does that have to do with anything?
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>>128221092
exactly
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>>128221044
Well it only had like 22 episodes, being canned before it was even halfway done with its main plot. I'd kill to learn what the last few treasures were like, since the last one had taken on the form of some animal, which could have meant that maybe a character we've seen was one of the treasures.
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>>128221115
You're literally making no sense at all.
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>>128221123
you can almost tell by the tone that the guys who wrote it were into D&D
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>>128221059
No. In fact , there's barely any fan arts from the show itself. Kinda sad since I would love to see some more fan art.
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>>128220926
Yeah, Paulsen IMO was never a leading voice for a cartoon. He's recognizable, but could never carry a cartoon on his own.
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>>128221154
Polly Pocket barely has any fanart as well
well Polly Pocket and Mighty Max are 2 of a kind
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>>128221123
I also found the revelation of dark water, which is already dangerous and terrifying by itself is a collective sentient elder evil quite new for a kids show
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>>128221044
now I might be totally wrong but the main thing i remember from this cartoon was the MC constantly being on the run, on the defensive. Just mogged at every fucking turn, if not by the black water itself than main big bad seemed to just make him his bitch. I recall an intense feeling of frustration the rare times I ever saw it. looked fucking cool though.
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>>128221240
show got scrapped midway and we couldn't see how they wanted to wrap things up
ratings were never great and shows lived and died by how much plastic craps they could sell for mattel and hasbro

its a shame because Dark Water was really unique for its storytelling, adult themes [non-sexual] and use of Lovecraftian elements as a central theme to the show, might have been one of the first shows to do so by my knowledge
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>>128221159
He carried Mighty Max and The Mask just fine.
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>>128210871
>Max himself was pretty lacking in the Chosen One department

I think thats the point of the series, trying to show a runt being heroic
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>>128221622

Arguably Animaniacs too.
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>>128221240
I don't think Ren was completely on the run, but he and the crew weren't going to get much help since the dark water had everyone in a kind of "fuck you, got mine" mentality. It wasn't quite yet an apocalypse, but people were clearly more invested in handling their own shit and not helping the people out to save the world.
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>>128221044

I have it somewhere in 720x540 which is the best we'll get it in but I've never actually sat down and watched it. Might make a stream for it if there's enough interest but I don't think we'll get more than like 5 people ever.
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>>128221044
This is just screaming to have its story finished in a comic series.
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This show had a great ending. Also Normans death was hilarious, he was so apathetic about dying.
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>>128221950
I'd love to get in touch with the writers and pick their brains about what was planned, as they must have had some shit plotted out before the plug was pulled. Of course, you'd probably have to retell the existing episodes to some degree, so anybody new could jump in and not be lost on the plot. And at least a comic would ensure little to no restrictions, outside of whichever company published it trying to push their crap I suppose.
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>>128221950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ADBoCsIQu4&ab_channel=Debyaka

it did get a game on genesis
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>>128221123
They messed up the show with their own hubris since almost none of the episodes in season two further the plot along because they thought they'd have more seasons.
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>>128222636
would not be the first time
I feel like it may have done better now, either way its never been released so I can only assume its tied up in legal dickery
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>>128221044
Don't forget Exo-Squad. They could still make that 3rd or even a 4th season and make it that 27-28 years in real-time passed since the original show ended.
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>>128222746
never saw Exo-Squad, gives me roughly the sames vibes as silver hawks though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdtcK1Qs2K4&ab_channel=WarnerBros.Entertainment
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>>128222780
It's very serious for a saturday morning cartoon. There is a reason why it's called the AMERICAN ANIME. And it was awesome.
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>>128222636
that's just par the course for pretty much every single early / mid 90s action cartoon. ESPECIALLY if it was unlucky enough to air on CBS.

honestly almost every single big action figure tie-in cartoon with games and merch and shit usually have actually interesting stories behind their genesis and eventual "failure".

>>128222780
lol. exosquad is straight up the closest thing to gundam a western cartoon has ever made. The Neosapiens straight up put people in holocaust space trains bound for the sun.
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>>128222977
wiki says it was developed as one of the first American studios responses to anime

I'll give it a go
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>>128222636
It still expanded on the world lore, which was more than enough, nobody would want them to just rush through the main plot, or else things would feel pretty bare
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Never watched the show, but I still have some of the toys. They're awesome.
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>>128222977
>honestly almost every single big action figure tie-in cartoon with games and merch and shit usually have actually interesting stories behind their genesis and eventual "failure".

on that note I'm amazed Gargoyles got as far as it did
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>>128223353
They could have told a complete story with the episodes they had. A bunch of 80s and 90s anime did it with single 13/26 episode seasons.
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>>128223442
Probably one of the few times the toys and show actually played into each other instead of "here's the character with a fire/ice theme or sick battle armor they will never have in the show"
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>>128224048
Not like the first season was all that more focused on the story, plenty of episodes were just bits of world building and whatnot.
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>>128224130
honestly it feels like the writers were given the toy and told to write a cartoon to go with, and used the opportunity to go to town and make a semi-decent show
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>>128224168
honestly, that's probably a fuck ton of 90s/specific episodes where the hero gets a new suit/power/vehicle/etc
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>>128224184
this case the toys came out a year before the show, so it was kinda reversed and had less shit sprung on them, they had more time to write the story up as opposed to throwing it together like a lot of dark water episode feel like
cannot overstate how much the movement of merchandise ruled the era
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>>128224142
In the first season, they found 7 treasures. In the second season they only ever found one.
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>>128224228
Far as I recall, the only major difference with the "lore" was that the cap belonged to Max's dad, who we never learn a single thing about in the cartoon, which just has the cap being an artifact that has existed since ancient time
And has somehow always resembled a fucking baseball cap.
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>>128224300
And? They still did the fucking world building, that's hardly a bad thing, not like the show just had to focus only on the main plot.
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>>128224333
It's bad that they slowed down the progress of the main plot to almost nothing and ended up with a show with no ending.
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>>128224333
I'm a fan of the show myself, but season 2 did slow down and thats probably what sank it, I would suspect they were made to do filler episodes
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>>128224383
Better than just rushing things and not giving time to enjoy the world
>>128224386
Pretty sure the show's expensive budget was part of the "problem", given it was far more costly than a lot of other shows at the time.
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>>128224492
>Pretty sure the show's expensive budget was part of the "problem", given it was far more costly than a lot of other shows at the time.

that didn't help the matter, either way the show was quite a bit ahead of its time and if it was made today I'd being willing to wager it would scratch up a respectable fandom
Its moot however, the total silence for years tells me its properties are disputed
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>>128221044
This show was kept alive a little longer by being rerun on various turner channels for the rest of the 90s.
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>>128224644
Well clearly, god forbid a cartoon have an actual fucking budget that takes time and effort, nope, gotta slash thing down to the smallest amount and expect everything to be carried by likewise cheap toys. Or, considering the times we're in now, shitty mobile games that make indie video games look like first party properties.
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>>128224748
And the brief time it was on Cartoon Network, who also trolled the ever loving fuck out of us fans with the "lost episode" stunt
I think it was just a clip of a cat drinking milk
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>>128213348
No one complained about this because it was fucking awesome and done really well.
Man I miss the 90's
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>>128222302
I think doing the entire thing as a comic series would be best, just leave out the unnecessary stuff and not rush things too much. It's not like everyone knows the story like Spider-Man's origin.
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>>128224869
If that were to happen, I could probably see either a condensed version of the cartoon's events, or just retelling all of the treasure acquisitions as a volume each, maybe combined with some of the more well known episodes like when they revealed how those dragon things were created by mutating people. Then once the plot is caught up, jump into the remaining treasures and whatever other exposition was needed. As I recall, they had implied the Dark Water was a blight on the world in the past, so that would probably be worth exploring, like what its exact origins is, and why it's actually intelligent and not just a nebulous force like most environmental threats in fiction.
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>>128224928
> or just retelling all of the treasure acquisitions as a volume each, maybe combined with some of the more well known episodes like when they revealed how those dragon things were created by mutating people.

this would be best, they already put the budget and time into lore and world building, may as well use it
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>>128224928
I haven't watched the show in years but isn't it also implied their world is our planets future or something? or I'm I thinking of something else?
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>>128224967
Not that I recall, though you could be thinking of Thundercats, where Third Earth was just our world, after some shit happened and the original, and whatever the hell Second Earth was were both wiped out.
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Did the heroes ever kill a villain?
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>>128225240
Plenty of villains died, though sometimes through their hubris or were just being put out of their misery after turning into mindless beasts.
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>>128220396
Still to this day I hear his screams
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>>128225207
maybe, might be thinking of bakshi's wizards thou
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>>128219652
It's fucking Astroboy Omega Factor
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>>128221044
this show hasn't aired anywhere since what 1999? That's when most of /co/ was born. People don't look into one season shows that got cancelled.
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>>128225875
Pretty sure most of /co/ was born in the 80s, otherwise, most people wouldn't have been able to post here until like three years ago.
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>>128209960
>If a reboot ever happens, will it keep the charm of the original?


No.
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>>128225269
You know, I'd never thought of that before, but Max literally killed this villain >>128218203 who was originally fully normal human being, did he?

But to be fair, It was never cleared if she was normally a serial killer way before she create the werewolf serum, or it was after she turning herself into savage werewolf monster which was going to kill max's friends and him shortly after. So he had no choice but to put that poor woman out of her misery.
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>>128218203
That's actually the type of werewolf design I enjoy the most
(Not the Cerberus type werewolf, the regular ones... though the former is cool too)
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>>128209960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEu8wDAQuDk
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>>128228077
She seemed pretty evil, and from what I recall, was just a normal person who found a way to gain lycanthropy by taking blood from the natural werewolves.
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>>128226024
I think most of /co/ was born between 85' & 95', at least that what I gather from pop culture references from most posters here
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Even so, I'm still confused in some parts about her personality & behavior. I mean, if she wants just to gain lycanthropy, then why she's killing innocent people in her werewolf form?

Even if she somehow remembered her killings, I'm kind doubt she has full awareness of her humanity while in her werewolf form . You can even see her face reaction when she's start to transform against her own will and losing any traces of her humanity after she drank the serum.

I also like the idea that the natural werewolves are described as the good, harmless creatures type and not as savage beasts, while the villain is the pure evil aggressive type of werewolf.
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>>128229382
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And I think what she drank was some sort of super werewolf serum, or some shit like, if memory serves
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"If you kill me, you'll be just like me"
"i can live with that"
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She probably wanted power, tried to gain it through experiments, and either got drunk on power, or couldn't handle it. She seemed to be fairly in control, but hard to say for sure, given she did trick a fellow cop into coming to her rescue when she was briefly buried under rubble.
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Actually, if you notice, She mixed the blood of the three werewolves she'd capture to make a super werewolf serum which is the reason why she grew extra limbs in her werewolf form.

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She indeed seems to be obsessed about werewolves & power which I had a theory that she drains the blood of natural werewolves by force while in pain, their mass amount of essences that she drank were too much for her to handle and becomes the monster that's lust into killing spree. And still, the serum isn't perfect which should revert her back to normal after the side-effect is expired which is the reason she's needs Cameron to perfect her serum.
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>science and stuff
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We did see it turn into a crown when Skullmaster finally got it, so it seemed to be at least somewhat influenced by the mindset of the bearer.
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I would have to imagine that Virgil would go through some kind of "fuck it, just go with it" character development with regards to predestination like Doc Brown did by the end of Back to the Future 3.
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Wait, so is this an official release? Or are they the nameless heroes no one knew would come to our aid?
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One bump before I leave for today.
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>Better than just rushing things and not giving time to enjoy the world
Given that the first season was popular enough to get a second season approved but the second season wasn't, apparently very few people were enjoying that world. They went seven episodes without collecting any treasures, so it does seem likely that the audience just started dropping the show because it was only stringing them along at this point. This is their fault for making their premise a "find the macguffins" plot instead of a "having random adventures in a pirate world" set-up.
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Streaming is basically taking all the power away from the censors, which os good in many ways. But I've had to turn off some 'G' rated shows on netflix because I felt it was sending a bad message to my kid.
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No one knows. All we know is Studiocanal holds the US home video rights to Mighty Max and they recently updated its entry on their website with HD photos.
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I think part of the problem is that they want to try to appeal to too many age demographics in one show now, like the guardrail between kids shows, teen shows and general entertainment is becoming obscured and the line between adult entertainment is undergoing a shit in social definition again like it did in the late 80s/early 90s
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I get that. But it should be obvious that in a kid's show, the MC shouldn't be a budding school shooter who's threatening bullies with a bat.
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agreed, though it makes me think bake on when the Simpsons came out
people boycotted Fox, Falwell and the god squad howled, I knew kids who parents whould not for the life of them let them watch that little shit bart simpson
now even the old Simpsons episodes look mundane by todays standards and it makes me wonder where ten years lead
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Yea, that would be fun, since we know Virg was kind of a stick in the mud, though with good reason. So having him realize that Max could and should screw the rules at times would be a fun thing, maybe even helping in tricking Skullmaster into pulling the ultimate rules screw that dooms him.
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Hard to say, Virgil seemed pretty rigid up until the ending we got, only mellowing out a bit when Max managed to outwit Skullmaster in a few instances. But when it came to fates that were literally set in stone, he seemed to be adamant that there was no escaping them, like Norman's death by the giant spider.
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Brock Samson before Brock Samson was even a thing.
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Well Gargoyles was a product of some interesting events with Disney, and it really helped that Weisman had planned out a lot of his story, so people were hooked to see what was coming next
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Norman and Brock would get along well
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>We'll never get that 3rd season where humans and neos have to band together to fight a massive alien invasion.
WHAT A WASTE.
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Even had that feel...and the 90's and 80's feel too.
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when did they stop doing horned wizards? I know we got the lich in adventure time, but it seems like a lost trope now
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The heyday of action cartoons. Very few cartoons left when this type of cartoon was once so very ubiquitous many took it for granted.
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thank you for sharing
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This's one o those radically cool 90s cartoons the youth missed out on.
Swat Kats
Batman TAS
Gargoyles
X-men TAS

western cartoons peaked in the 90s. 2000s and beyond it's all anime.
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one last bump before bed
thanks everyone
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>>128245299
I do wonder why Mighty Max has never been revived as a comic... did the toys sold so badly a revival seems impossible?
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I preferred the toyline story over the cartoon one. In the cartoon you have Max going to different parts of the world and from there finding the weird situations, in the toyline he actually transported to other worlds not on earth, in fact the plot is that he's trying to find his way back home (earth) since his cap keeps taking him to doom zones. I also preferred Max being younger and his cap changing everytime he warped to a new area.
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Wasn't much of a plot though, since there was little indication if the toys had any order to them. It was just basically Quantum Leap without the body swapping, the or the Avalon tour from Gargoyles without anything directly stating that Max was being denied a return home until he fulfilled a quota of deeds across the universe.
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>>128246255
Mighty Max revolutionized the toy aisles in the 90s, it became a huge surprise hit by mattel when they imported the toys from the UK.
They re-designed max to be more american, changed his origin and continued to release the toys.
Not long after every boy toyline had a micro playset to go along with it, even big brands like ninja turtles and power rangers were ripping off Mighty Max.

So yeah the toys did not do bad, they did so well everyone copied them. Sadly I think because of that people stopped buying Mighty Max and the line eventually disappeared but it was super popular for a couple of years, that's more than you can say for most shows. Hel his cartoon was 40 episodes, more than the average 2 season 26 episode cartoons that keep getting rebooted.
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>>128246966
I myself had a small collection of Mighty Max playsets, on the top of my head:
>The Hand
>The Cyberskull
>The Sabertiger
>The Scorpion
>The Dragon
>The Cyclops
>Two of the smallest: The Mummy and the Frankenstein

I eventually sold them at my school's flea market (Some of my dumb kid mistakes, as they were in top condition and I sold them for a fraction of their price)
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>The "Into the Battle Zone" aborted line was to have featured an older-looking Max, with a black jacket, sunglasses and weapons. Norman and Skullmaster likewise carried futuristic weaponry, while Virgil was almost totally absent
Wasted chance or thanks the Cosmic Cap they aborted it?
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Looks like Duke Nukem
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>>128247022
I think one of my brothers had the skull one, and then I had a few of the toys for the cartoon, can't recall what ones exactly
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>>128249861
That motherfucker looks like something out of a furfag's wetdream
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>>128249878
90s TV planted a lot of seeds who flowers we are only know seeing
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the powers that be at the time did not feel they made enough profit

again it cannot be overstated that shows lived and died on the sales figures they produced for the big two toy companies at the time
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I liked that every episode, thin as some of the set up was, delivered on the spectacle. When the story is about Max and friends trying to defeat a dragon the size of a mountain, a majority of the running time is Max and his friends trying to defeat a dragon the size of a mountain.
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Rob Paulsen mentioned in an interview he thoght it'd be a good reboot. I doubt we'll ever get anything for MM which is good the toyline wold suck.
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Well some of the prototypes that have come out over the years look cool like the warmonger head, the doom head and mummy head but those also seem to have been built in the "old style"
the new style not only included an older looking max, the figures seemed to be a bigger scale than the one we were used to, not too much bigger but big enough that they look out of scale with the old figures. Having vehicle playsets? and further moving away from the style we knew and love? Yeah it seems like we saved ourselves a bad wave of figures, I still kinda wish we had seen them though.
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>>128221044
The brown sorceress is sex
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She was a sorceress?
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>>128209960
I liked that cartoons from this time still did genuinely try to tell a moral story even if it was a half hour ad slot for hasbro
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>>128209960
Max’s mom in that robe during the voodoo episode was rockin
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>>128209960
Max - for all his attempted radness - had a lot of humanity and tried to bring out the best in people albeit in a non-insufferable way. Like that crow wizard and that submarine cowboy guy. He was a good kid and a pretty great hero.
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>>128252465
indeed, Max came across as actually likeable despite his annoying traits, and most of those could be brushed always as 'lol, kid'
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>>128210864
Even as a kid, I thought I missed an episode where Max’s hat adventures get introduced to his mom and friends and they freak out before supporting them. Years later, it turns out the writers just skipped that story beat. I can’t decide if that was brilliant or not.
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she learns that she can move plants IIRC bt not an actual sorcerer. in my headcanon she's just waterbending the water in the plants and that's how she gets the plants to move. I say this because the world in Pirates of dark water seems very similar to the one in avatar TLA, they both include similar things including hybrid animals etc.
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>>128252982
>Bea/Max's mom never had figures in the toy line
"Ewww, girl figures? I don't want cooties, no thank you..." is what probably went through the minds of the executives.
Ironic, as kid I often wondered if I would ever get my hands on a Polly Pocket figure just to give my Mighty Max a girlfriend
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>>128252982
>I was pissed Max's Mom never had a name
Made for a pretty funny gag in "Tar Wars," though, when Norman greets her and realizes mid-sentence that he has no idea what her name is.

>"Hello, Mrs... Ms... Mom."
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>>128252954
How can you really react to learning magic and shit is real and your son is some sort of chosen one

I dislike how when they do that part of so many shows and introductions they either treat it like a coming out story or some other hand wave, I could only imagine a form of shell shock for a while before coming to accept that it is actually happening
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OP Here. I can't believe my thread is still alive after another day, truly it has been a blast.
I have to get away from the computer for a few hours, so one last bump and in case we get archived, thank you very much everyone for such an enjoyable thread!
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>>128253023
It's the truth and it's backed up by numbers. Majority of boys are flat out not interested in girls or action figures of girls.
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>>128253310
Would have been fun to see, but I can get that yea, it is played out often in only a few ways. If anything, I could maybe see it being that Max's mom finds out, is freaked, but then warms up to everything because of Virgil's charming nature, rather than going the "I'm going to be understandably upset about my only child being in mortal peril, and only come around after my ass is saved no less than 3 times in one day!"
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>>128254795
I think it should be remembered that they are still children, the market they were after was actual little boys and not internet mind rotted sexual deviants
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>>128254661
So her name is Sarah and she keeps Max company for the entire episode once they arrive in the "eastern european town". She's cute but her breath probably smells of onions.
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>>128254927
Max's mom was leaving him at home by himself often while she went on her expeditions, so they created a character who really wouldn't be all that concerned about him having adventures of his own.
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>>128255356
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>>128209960
I actually think this would be a good show to redo, has a lot of good themes for kids, fun and action heavy, non of the stories I would call slow or filler really
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>>128255230
Implying that's not my preference. Mmm... onions

Rewatching that episode a few years ago inspired me to try a peanut butter and onion sandwich, and I also discovered it was a favorite of Ernest Hemingway. He immortalized it in one of his stories, referring to it as "the Everest Special"

Thanks for the excellent thread everyone
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It was finished on the Genesis.
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Do you think there should have been more stories featuring his friends or do you think them preferring a lack of homicidal maniacs in their life to be more realistic?
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>>128243931
And the Day was Saved!
Thanks to... CAP'N POON!
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>>128257542
Now if only they could inject gender and race politics into every episode it would be perfect for todays audience.
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>>128245353
I was unaware that they could use portals on their own.
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>>128250982
Thanks for the read.
Felt like I had seen all that there was of Mighty Max but this storytime gave me even more.

Did they only have 11 issues? (counting the issue zero)
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>>128259727
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Pretty great for a 90s beach episode but if we assume Max's mom was a teenager in the 80s I would think she would be in a one piece swimsuit, maybe with a rayon plaid-print shirt draped loosely on her shoulders. Any drawfags up to make that a reality?
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>>128262989
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>>128209960
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Comfy topic, especially since MM in general seems like a dead brand that no one talks about much besides the usual "remember MM?" "oh yeah the polly pocket for boys it was cool, and the cartoon was cool it was violent and ended with at ime loop". That's literally every MM discussion and it dies after a few posts, this is the first time I see a thread get a little more discussion

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I know, the weird thing is there aren't even any female villains, like no witches, female despot, snow queen or amazon babe, sorceress or mermaid

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the comics only came out in the UK and yeah they were only scanned recently in MM fandom pages. The comic must've gotten cancelled before the 12 issue subscription.
Issue #0 is not a real issue, it came out with the MM video game as part of the instruction booklet so it has different writing team and whatnot.
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no a all but it'd be neat if they had a character that looked like max as a random background character even if he had no lines.
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>the comics only came out in the UK
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*sorry, proper image of him coming through*
That would be really cool. A nice nod to heritage.

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>there aren't even any female villains
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>>128244665
Thats why the anti-reboot crowd mystifies me;
Yes I get a bad reboots is a bad reboots, but to paraphrase the word 'there is nothing new under the sun'

vid related;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XeyHAUNMlQ&ab_channel=K%27RtoonExpress
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>>128210175
It's worse than that, the studios lost the original tapes. Most of Mighty Max episodes are now lost media.
We either have to get really lucky with some intern finding them, or track down people who taped them on VHS, and wouldn't have DVD quality. Either way, something is missing.
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trips

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>>128255356
Eh, loads of cartoons would have kids being left at home with no supervision and the parents expecting them to just sit and behave, it's only been in the last 20 or so years that people really point out how irresponsible that kind of behavior is (even if the kids are actually quite capable on their own) since child safety is taken far seriously nowadays. Odds are, if Max were being made today, you'd probably have the "overprotective parent" shtick episode.
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nah, that's all rampant speculation we've gotten high res screenshots so it seems its available just no one cares about the property to release it. Its also not lost media since all episodes are easily viewable on youtube, sure some episodes are in not such great quality in english but there are uploads in french and italian that have those same episodes in higher quality just with different audio which if anyone was autistic enough to care would just mix the better feed of the other languages with the english language to make a better copy but no one cares enough about MM to do that just like no one cares enough to release it on dvd but its not lost media.
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Not in the cartoon, no, he's never even mentioned in any capacity. The toyline, however, did have it that Max's cap was his father's which might have meant they were going to save such a reveal for a reveal in the show, though it's difficult to say given how close to a final conclusion we got before Max returned to the past.
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If the masters were lost, then it technically is, since nobody would ever just go "good enough" and use decent quality rips of something from youtube to piece together a new release. Hopefully the rumors are wrong, or that some lucky bastard found the masters and that's why we're seeing these high-res screens.
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Yup, this cliche has been around since the 1970's.
Also, Curse of the Were-Woman was a totally forgettable comic that no one ever finished scanning.
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could be worse in terms of loss;

https://lostmediaarchive.fandom.com/wiki/1937_Fox_vault_fire#:~:text=On%20July%209%2C%201937%2C%20a%20major%20fire%20broke,destroyed%20all%20of%20the%20film%20in%20the%20vault.
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>>128255543
damn. nice.
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>>128265164
To be fair, I think the anon was talking about the toyline, were indeed there was no female characters, if memory serves.
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>>128209960
hopefully no reboot. it's perfect the way it is. tim curry was fucking awesome and i love the line he said to max, 'i'll suck the marrow out of your bones'.
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>>128265823
Well those were basically all monsters (and I think some aliens), so the presence of gender was pretty minimal with Max being the only identifiable entity in each set.
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>>128265848
I recall back around the summer or so, someone was saying that there might be something, but given the way "leaks" happen on /co/, it's obviously one of those things where you have to take their words with a fucking shovel of salt.
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>>128264160
>this is the first time I see a thread get a little more discussion
OP here, and I completely agree with you. This has been so far one of the best Mighty Max threads we've had, even if it's bad that I say so myself. We're even about to reach bump limit.
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>>128265848
The lack of mentioning of Tom Curry in the thread surprises me... it's like talking about Peter Pan and the Pirates and not mentioning his Hook
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>>128265930
When it comes to Tim Curry, you know it's gong to be good, since I don't think he's ever had a bad role in a cartoon. God awful shame about the stroke, but glad to see he's in good enough spirits.
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>>128265930
>Tom Curry
Tim Curry*
Kek... stupid O next to the I
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>>128265038
Rose Tint does not adapt well to continuation of nostalgia
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>>128265888
trips!

Also once in a blue moon /co/ can sit off its balls and have a discussion
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>>128265684
what rumors, there are no rumors only speculation from fans because there isn't a dvd release and it isn't on a streaming service, hardly any real evidence.
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>>128266117
Well yes, But we are speculating very loudly!
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>>128266117
It's clearly not by one dude who is remastering the show, and the screens look quite professional, so that's evidence of something, so it's only fair to believe it's grounds for a rumor of something
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>>128266926
could be they need to do something to retain copyright, I'm not sure but I think it is ever so many years they need to do something with it or lose it, could easily be wrong though
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>>128264160
>>128264872
>>128265164
>>128265566
Her transformation scene >>128218203
were more detailed than that natural male werewolf and her scream sound familiar but can't be sure where I heard that before.
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Bump so we reach the 500?
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>>128267945
It's fairly detailed, but then other parts just had it sort of fade into the fur, or her head just going out of shot to be replaced with the wolf one.
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>>128209960
>If a reboot ever happens, will it keep the charm of the original?
stop with the reboots, already. haven't you learned your lesson??
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>>128270541
A man can dream, though?
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>>128218203
It may sound like dumb question, but I need to know how come MacDougal wasn't died when she'd start to transform into her wolf monster form? Don't get me wrong, while men who turning into werewolves, due to their masculine body shape, most of them usually have some pain resistance. In her case however, her feminine body are too fragile and it seems she can't control her transformation at free will right after she drank the serum. so her transformation are extremely painful. combine that with that extra limbs she's got of course. and finally, how come she's got to have a masculine body shape in her werewolf form ?
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>>128209960

No reboots. Only reruns.
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>>128209960
>If a reboot ever happens, will it keep the charm of the original?
Have any reboots accomplished this lately? No? Exactly.
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>>128221044
love it, have it in the highest quality you can hope for
the show was cancelled because the animation schedule kept falling behind. The animation schedule kept falling behind because look at all that fucking detail
then Fox brought it back only to cancel it again for the same reasons. They only found 8 of the 13 Treasures of Rule
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>>128209960
Here's your reboot.
>Cookiecutter style
>"Action comedy"
>Max fails to defeat Skullmaster
>He loses his hat they both get trapped in a vortex
>The hat is now sentient like the hat from Harry Potter
>It finds it's way to Max's young half-sister that his divorced dad had years after the original series
>She is the new chosen one
>The hat says it failled to recognize the real chosen one because "we all make mistakes"
>It also jokes that Max's head was full of air and it was too big
>The hat works towards awakening her latent magic powers because she is a witch for some reason
>It is a "coming of age" story
>Most episodes are slice of life with the odd trip back in time so the creator can claim that it is educational like the original show
>Black pharaoh episode
>Suffragette episode
>Americal Civil War episode
>Viking episode where the girl brings back a mortal woman named Valkyrie who is a better warrior than any man
>Norman is a secondary character who is a scaredy cat despite his muscles because of PTSD from fighting Skullmaster
>The new chosen one heals it over time and he becomes just a comedic dumb brute
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>>128265466
It's not irresponsible, it's just how things were often done back in the good old days. A lot of Gen Xers and early Millennials got to enjoy freedom, then a wave of excessive helicopter parenting set in.
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>>128270541
>Yes how dare they profane the memory of Polly Pocket for boys TV adaptation
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>>128272975
I think the helicopter parents were an overcorrection on parts of people who had grown up as latch key kids and had Boomer parents who would sometimes disappear for days or seem surprised to hear that they had children

Naturally crushing every bit of independence and free will out of your children as such helicopter parents has left the neurotic mess you see now with millennials and bares its own problems, but my larger point is that happy medium has not really been worked out
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>>128273434
Mighty Max was a fun show for boys and we've seen time and time again these past few years that no one is currently interested in making anything like that.
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>>128274031
>until someone finally makes it

only choice is to press on, someone someday will make cartoons again, you'll see
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>>128221059
You mean porn? You damn lolicon
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>>128231440
No he isn't, he's being a faggot pessimist.
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>>128226024
>Pretty sure most of /co/ was born in the 80s, otherwise, most people wouldn't have been able to post here until like three years ago.

I'm almost 25, and I've been posting on /co/ for nearly 14 years now.
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>>128274275
Its hard to really gauge the age groups present at any one time on this site
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>>128272541
you sound bitter
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>>128272541
No Virgil?
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>>128273648
Media hasn't really helped either
Most news stories are mostly "EVERY CHILD IN THE WORLD HAS AT LEAST 7 PEOPLE STALKING THEM!"
And commercials telling parents "Have you checked on your child in the last 5 minutes? If not then THEIR PROBABLY DEEEEEAAAAAD!"
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>>128275239
this is the most likely explenation. and also convenient. parents spending all time worried about their children don't have time for anything else.
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I wish we had gotten a mighty max cartoon based on the original toyline. Before Mattel redesigned him being older and his story. Original max had no mother, no Virgil/Norman to help him, the cap was his father's, he wasn't the chosen one instead a random kid trapped, he was stuck going from Doom zone to doom zone trying to find his way back to earth/home, he savagely escaped the different doom zones by pure wit, oh and his cap changed colors
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>>128275310
I think that would have tipped it into the 'too dark' category for the moral sensibilities at the time
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>>128275310
You mean based on the comics that were included with the toys
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>>128275239
will be interesting to see how millennials raise Gen A
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>>128275310
That works as a game, but for a show that would be difficult without a supporting cast for him to interact with. Maybe it'd work for a single season of 7-11 minute long episodes.
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Well, one last bump from my part.
Hopefully we'll get to discuss the show again if we ever see those high quality releases
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>>128276552
eh, stars align rare for threads like these to thrive, might be awhile
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I'll post a few more of these
just for fun
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>>128277131
don't know why but this makes me think of the old Mars Attacks! and Dinosaurs Attack! stuff
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>>128277131
thank you for dumping
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bump
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>>128210232
I mean all truth be told by the end Max would need therapy for ptsd
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>>128211609
I think it was trying to show finding the appropriate balance to handle differing situations
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>>128210151
I things its more worth noting what the used the half hour commercial slots to produce
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bump
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>>128272352
Reruns are an obsolete concept in the Streaming Era
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>>128277131
Haw many of these did they make? for a toy tie in comic this seems extensive
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>>128281101

Every toy had a comic on the back of the card.
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>>128281122
never get that now
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Well Last post from Me, been a great thread
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Wonder how much these are going for
>Checks ebay
>Spit take despite not drinking anything
Yeah, I'm out
Their pics are good enough resolution that i found a comic i hadn't saved yet.
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>>128281836
Cool! anyways great thread
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>>128281836
>Double Demon
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>>128282262
*Legally distinct from similar TSR IP of the time
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>Skull Master shows off his buff red dragon
>me: Now that's what I called hot dragon



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