How come he's getting shat on, and Odin has to step in to clean up the mess?
Because he's a jobber and his writers don't even know his powerset>that time when Captain America punched him silly
>>127247798>>127247815Because the writers decided that Hulk should be a pitiful beta-cuck
>>127247815I think Peter David wrote the OP. and he should really know about Hulk
who the hell claimed that?
>>127247868>who the hell claimed that?Some Hulkfag anon in the storytime thread of Immortal Hulk #50.
>>127247798That wasn't what immortal hulk was about I know your talking about that hulk ESL from a couple of days ago. immortal hulk is the story of job the thing even tells hulk the story in the dinner. and the story never claimed that hulk was empowered by the one above all he said was that through many hands of creation and destruction he shapes the universe, and the hulk with his power has the ability to do so as well "do you have a hand like mine?".the hulk is a hand of the TOAAjust like anyone who creates and destroysthrough TOBA with gamma he destroys with cosmic rays he creates.hulk is no more of a god of destruction than the leader
>>127247911God luck convincing Hulkfags of that.
>>127247911hulk even chose the path of creation when he forgave banner as TOAA as the same hand that was forgiveness was creation
>>127247798>Hulk was TOAA incarnateNo one ever said that, you are just a retard.
This is why marvel should just give Hulk some kind of gravity or knock back resistance. Dude gets flung way too easily.
Why is PAD like this now?
>>127248029was he ever not?
>>127247798even if he was powered by TOAA he would still get fucked by Odin because he still can be knocked out just like when iron man did.never understood the hulkbuster armor wouldn't mobility be the winner against hulk?
>>127248049THANK YOU. if anyone stronger than calm hulk knocks him out before he gets angry enough to beat them he wins. why don't hulkfags understand that
You really shouldn't take baiting anons seriously
>>127247798immortal hulk actually made hulk weaker.immortal hulk and world beaker were killed the only hulks are the professor, cosmic-powered joe, and savage hulk. he's the weakest he has been in the past 5 years
>>127248213Peter Allen DavidHe wrote the longest ongoing Hulk series
>>127247815because he can actually lose sometimes instant of making everyone else around him job.hulk has the second biggest job aura behind batman
>>127247928"Hulkfags" know this, there's only a handful of non-comic readers who don't understand this shit and use it for Death Battle bullshit discussions.
>>127247911So effectively, he's still carrying out TOAA/TOBA's will. Why wouldn't they want to make him stronger to carry their will out better?
>>127248496>So effectively, he's still carrying out TOAA/TOBA's will. Yes, like every other character in a Marvel story. Do you simply not understand that TOAA and TOBA aren't actual characters but metaphorical concepts representing the creators of the comic books?
>>127248525Which creator does TOBA represent?Jim Shooter?John Byrne?Who else is considered a horrible person?
>>127248496he has limitless strength why would they need to buff him?just like in the what if? hulk has the power to destroy the universe already with enough anger. he is part of the counterweight TOAA breaks through many hands hulk is just part of the counterweight to is Galactus, juggernaut and others who cause great destruction. for every reed Richards, there is a hulk counterweight.
>>127248535their the writer none of the men you listed created TOAA so why would it be him. TOAA/TOBA is any writer they destroy the marvel universe and they are many hands but they also create.also, the beyonder is shooter
>>127248535Any creator, it doesn't really mean anyone in specific.
>>127247815They wrote themselves into a corner with Hulk.He's like Superman. Once you've established just how high his power level can go, you need to start adding contrived excuses and cop-outs for why, in some particular issue/series, he suddenly has an actual challenge to face, is actually out-matched, or otherwise has some potential to actually fail.Just like the Hulk, Superman was a classic hero created during a time when comic book readers were less critical of consistent fictional rules in-universe, however, the writers at least had the foresight to give Superman an exploitable weakness. When the Hulk was written, they didn't see the need to make him any more complicated than:>Guy can turn into big green monster when he's mad>Big green monster is invincible and stronger than any living creature, but he's really dumb, and gets angry easily, but the angrier her gets, THE STRONGER AND MORE INVINCIBLE HE GETS!>His human form is a weak genius poindexter who has trouble controlling his monstrous side, and has to deal with the guilt of the monster's destruction>It's a metaphor for the atomic/nuclear bomb, and also a reference to Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde!>Wait, now we have to make him fight our other invincible hero who never loses? Well obviously the Hulk would win, so why would we->Oh, THAT much money? Uh yeah, we'll totally have Captain America fight the Hulk. We'll even have the Hulk lose, just to keep people guessing and reading!>I don't know how he'd lose, just have Cap punch him while screaming something about America and readers will be too busy saluting the flag to question why the Hulk didn't just smash him
>>127248485>second biggest job aura behind batmanLmao, Galactus is /co/ biggest jobber.
>>127248063Because, due to the power dynamics, it would be like some dyel manlet attempting to knock out Mike Tyson in his prime.Even if Mike stood perfectly straight with his arms down and let the manlet throw his hardest haymaker straight into Mike's chin/jaw, it wouldn't do shit, even though your chin/jaw is like your "snooze button" (if you're familiar with boxing). Mike is just stronger, his bones are more dense, he is heavier and has more inertia, and has so much experience getting beaten and battered that he's become hardened against such hits.>Just knock the Hulk outis like saying>Bro just aim for Achilles' heelIt all sounds so easy until he's falling upon you sword-first, and you can't even reach his ankles.
>>127248796talking about characters that make others job by being around them
>>127248802so your saying juggernaut couldn't? or abomination or all the other character the hulkfags say cant beat him him anymore
>>127248824Nobody says any of this shit.
>>127248140Where is Kluh ?
>>127248838Hopefully gone forever.
>>127248810Oh, my bad then
>>127247798Wait at the point this comic is set, hulk was a mindless beast how the hell is he talking?
>>127248837by hulk fag everyone talking about this one fag that made hulk threads every day for like a week.he's the reason why this threads a thing
>>127248856Ah okay, then why give him the pleasure of a reply? He's an idiot.Besides, Abomination (as in Blonsky) hasn't been around Hulk in a long while, same as Juggernaut. There's no telling how they'll go against Hulk, but either way, nothing has really changed in terms of power. That's the crucial part here, Ewing only boosted Joe temporarily with Power Cosmic when he went into hell for the last arc, but he lost all of that when he came out. Unless Cates goes full retard with it (and I'm sure he will), there's no reason to think he's World Breaker level or whatever now.
>>127248913I don't. I think people are just annoyed because he appeared anytime you talked about the hulk for a while.
>>127247842this but unironically
>>127248539>he has limitless strength why would they need to buff him?If he has limitless strength why did he lose to the whats-her-name here?
>>127249077he has a charge-up time he cant just go from 0 to 100000000 to get his max anger could take millions of years
>>127248802>>127249077what this guy said but there's no physical element so she could just knock her out because it's magic
>>127248856>>127248904The "hulkfag" and anti-hulkfag is the same person.
>>127249322so the guy who made this thread and makes the kids playing argument and hulk-ESL are the same? but why
>>127247798I'm more genuinely surprised Odin didn't job, desu.
>>127247995Too bad Cates said "fuck that" and completely erased any character progression just so he can make Bruce a villain protagonist.