Awesome seeing the ship stripped down, but that twist ending? Meh, there's gotta be something else there besides the obvious frame job
>Mariner is a dykeBravo McMahan
>>126357200Boimler self-inserts btfo
>"I can’t really get into it too much, but by the end of this season, Boimler understands exactly what she [Mariner] means to him."
>>126357200>he doesn't know about the four andorian genders
>>126357211Even Ransom had more build-up than fucking Jennifer.
>>126357242and your shipping them is based on what? Them showing like basic star fleet hospitality to each other?your literally making up shit to be outraged about
>>126357200We saw she likes chicks getting it on back in the Naked Time simulation. Did you block it out because it featured Boimler's bussy?
>>126357269It's pretty fucking obvious. Mariner and Jennifer were hostile towards each other so that "I like you" can't mean anything else other than "I'm attracted to you."
>>126357224Is this from the alternate timeline where Boimler and Mariner hook up rather than the PRIME timeline where Mariner and Jennifer scissor all night, every night?
>>126357200>>126357211>>126357212>Mariner is a dykeI don't understand, why did she cockblock him so many times then? If she's not attracted to him, and she's just ruining his relationships with other girls anyways while she's a lesbian, then she's just a bitch. What the fuck.
press F to pay respectsseriously? no sympy for Barnes?
>>126357379I guess she's just a possessive cunt.
>>126357379>so many timesone is many? and you know damn well why
I feel sick.
>>126357399>you know damn well whyAny reason other than her wanting Boimler's big dick is bullshit. Fucking hell, I don't even watch this show and I'm annoyed. Who needs another lesbian cartoon character? There are like 80 of them already.
>>126357343yeah not sure I follow that logic, but I can tell you desperately want a chance for you lesbian ship so you do you
>>126357430so you're a tourist?
Two characters have unresolved tension?Fuck that, let's do lesbians instead.
>>126357450I don't ship them at all. It felt forced and unnatural.
why are T'lyn x Boimler shippers mad about Mariner?
>>126357470I'm a Marinler shipper and I'm mad.
>Enters new thread>Nothing but shippers seethingCan the /tv/tards come in here so I don't have to deal with this shit?
Well shit, their favorite ship didn't work out so now /co/ is going to hate the show. What else is new
>make EP5 pure shipbait>pull Korrasami in the finaleBASED
>>126357501It's not that it didn't work out. It was fucking murdered in favor of cheap queerbaiting.
>>126357511>>126357501literally not what happenedI get that you people like shipping, I do too but this wasn't a shipping episode
>>126357379She's more like a mom that doesn't want the kid to grow up and leave the house and her. Ever.>>126357399And with Tendi in the first episode. And the Anabaj.
>>126357487with one guy who admitted he doesn't watch the show. he's just here to cry about lesbians like armin martiza in his bunk.
>>126357501Mariner fucking Boimler was literally the only thing this show had going for it. It was the light at the end of the tunnel. I'm so depressed right now.
>>126357379Mariner already identified herself as pansexual in the Tendi bonding episode.
>>126357619because season 2 didn't end with end game becoming canonyou know they normally don't formally get together until the very end in this sort of thing right?
>>126357533I'll take cripplefag's deranged rants over these shipping scum's fakeass lesbian outrage
Guys! This is just season 2! We have another full season ahead to fix everything. Maybe more. Don't lose hope.
We were warned, but I didn't think it was gonna be this bad.
>>126357647Season 3 could have the greatest episode of the show and these faggots would still hate it for having no marinler. There's no more reasoning with them.
>>126357647No, it's over forever. Freeman is going to jail and Mariner and Jennifer are going to scissor while Boimler cries in the bunk below them.
>>126357675I'm not upset that Marinler isn't a thing. I'm upset because of the forced lesbian relationship.
>>126357690so your upset at your own homophobic delusions that reads any mildly friendly interaction between non-related women as lesbianism
>>126357662What was >>125802324 referring to?
>>126357644I need Mariner sucking Boimler's cock right this fucking minute.
>>126357746This was before Boimler got cloned and Shaxs got resurrected. I assumed they were both 8472s.
boimlerchads, not like this. this wasn't supposed to happen. i'm pretty fucking mad right now.
>>126357782He deserves better.
>>126357200She literally says shes into guys and girls multiple times and people ignore it until she actually hooks up with a chick.The entire thing does kinda feel temporary to me but we'll see. Knowing how they undid literally every single status quo change of the finale within 3 episodes I'm kinda doubting this is a long term thing. Its win win though, either we get hot alien lesbian action or we get heartbroken Mariner (since you just know Jenn would be the one to break it off).
>>126357782Do you need a hug, big guy?
>>126357722Mate, I use Tumblr. Pretty much everyone I talk to is a massive SJW and they're all mad at this Jennifer thing.>>126357793I realize that. But it still came out of nowhere.
>>126357782about what? Boimler saving the whole ship but not catching Mariner?
>>126357793So? Mariner acted like she's madly in love with him for two seasons now. This feels wrong.
>>126357805Listen I'll be mad at it too if making her Mariner's girlfriend is really the direction they're going but at this point I just think you're jumping to conclusionsalso I think Mariner could totally stand an arc where her shitty behavior fucks up her relationship, so she can learn some lessons about love before finally realizing Boimler is for her, so i'm not sure even if this relationship exists that it would be a threat to end game
Did anyone else feel like soooooo much of the drama in this episode was incredibly forced? Especially the entire Tendi subplot felt super fucking lazy (overhearing something out of context how original), like no shit she was going to Science.
That line about 'pushing away the ones she likes' where the hell did that come from?! Dumbass grade school mentality.
>>126357839Because it's fucked up how Mariner keeps sabotaging his career and relationships
>>126357845they did it twice. With Freeman/Mariner and T'ana/Tendi. Only the Freeman one didn't have that stupid plot twist of misunderstanding what was going on.
>>126357805Oh I agree it comes out of nowhere partly why I don't think it will last, but its hardly a big deal.>>126357815Madly in love, nah, super possessive yeah. Mariner, shockingly has a bunch of issues.Don't get me wrong I think they're great together and love the ship but I still want a good chunk of stuff to happen before they wind up together. Which includes them dating other people.
>>126357845>Did anyone else feel like soooooo much of the drama in this episode was incredibly forced?It did. We've seen that plot a dozen times already. A senior officer does something, main character interprets it the wrong way, and then it's revealed that it was a good thing all along.
>Mariner hooks up with a literal who she only interacted like twice in a negative way and just for jokesIf you’re gonna make her gay for someone, why for a literal nobody instead of an actual character? I actually would have bought it better if Mariner hooked up with the vulcan girl from last episode. Since she was an actual character.This is like the definition of last minute lesbians.
>>126357884Even Tendi would have been better.
>>126357884no its the definition of reading way too far into thing
>>126357877>I want them to date other people beforehandYou are scum. You are filth. They should both be virgins and then they should get married and fuck forever. I hate you.
>>126357846Isn't that what she's been doing to Boimler all season?
>>126357908Touch grass incel.
>>126357908Grow up, kid
>"I bet you dream about me every night with your stupid little butt."Stop coping. Mariner and Jennifer is a thing now.
>>126357923They pretty much retconned their rivalry into a crush.
>>126357917If growing up means dating people who aren't virgins, then no, I wont. I refuse. It's perverse. There's something incredibly sick about thinking that one needs "experience" before they can fall in love. It's either love at first sight, both ways, that very second and for every second after, or it's nothing at all.
>>126357942>love at first sightlol
>>126357942Oh you're just trying to be funny.
>>126357935Their rivalry was one-sided and virtually non-existent. Jennifer hardly knew Mariner as anybody but the captain's obnoxious psycho daughter while Mariner saw Jennifer as a scapegoat for her personal insecurities, like a Dinkleberg.
>>126357980If she doesn't love you the second she meets you, she never has and she never will. It's the only way. One day a beautiful girl is going to break through the window in my bedroom and lay her eyes on me and love me until the day that we die.
Yeah, yeah, the Jennifer thing sucks, but can we talk about all the forced drama in this episode?
>>126357797Yes I do.
>>126357379>>Mariner is a dykeNothing of the sort was ever confirmed.
>>126357990No, I'm serious and it's sad that you can't understand the beauty of true love. You are ugly, every cell in your body is ugly and angry.
>>126358008its sad that you can't see the true beauty of Mariner making Jen stick her antenna in her pussy
>>126357990He has a point.
>>126358001The Freeman/Mariner one was deliberate.The Tendi one was forced but justified. If you saw your name being deleted, would you react by finding out why or seek comfort?
>>126358035>If you saw your name being deleted, would you react by finding out why or seek comfort?I would have confronted my superior about it.Besides, they've done this plot a dozen times already.
>>126357992Mariner has Main Character Syndrome something bad. Obviously if she doesn't like you, clearly you notice and take offence at the fact. >>126358001Tendi was the worst one by far. The command crew acted a bit more childish than I'd like but atleast their complaints were somewhat valid (especially Fleet Command treating Cali crews like crap) and Mariner/Freeman is always a shitshow but it did feel like a bit of a regression from the last few episodes of their interactions.But Tendi's was just inexcusably lazy, like you could literally use it in a video on how to not create character conflicts with just how pathetic it was.
>>126358040shocking I know, I mean just how often is miscommunication gonna drive the conflict in a show about contacting aliens and the tension between officers and lower crew
When I watched EP5, I assumed they're actually going somewhere with these characters. Apparently not.
>>126358035I don't know how about actually talking with her superior (like she requested) and find out whats going on, you know like a functional adult. They're literally on a spaceship its not like she will be told to pack her desks and then get spaced out an airlock. If Tendi was a literally child I could acknowledge her actions as realistic (if still annoying) but she isn't, its just ooc crap for drama for a plot which they didn't even need drama for.
>>126357453It wasn't lesbian and there was unresolved tension between the two. It's about Mariner's personal growth. Boilmer got some too.
>>126358107>It wasn't lesbianAnon...
Odds on Rutherford being a Section 31 sleeper agent?
Everyone simping on T'Lyn for being a hothead but not one peep about motherfucking Billups fucking losing it?
>>126358107>"I tend to push away the people I like">"Does that mean you like me?"Yeap, no lesbian undertones here folks.
>>126358205Well, no. Do you know that Like isn't the same as love. With what little they have you might as well ship Mariner with everyone on the Ceritos.You are just haters who larp as "woke" cause you want other to "feel what it's like".
Where do I even begin...>another misunderstanding plot with Tendi>forced drama with Freeman that doesn't amount to anything>it instantly gets resolved when Mariner has a change of heart about being a jerk>Boimler and Mariner once again get shafted >Freeman gets drunk and is sober a moment later>she's framed for destroying a planet, fucking what>it would have made more sense if she got arrested for that stunt she pulled in EP5>stripping the hull reminded me of this https://youtu.be/cn4fW0EInqw?t=56>Mariner hooks up with a literal nobodyWhat a trainwreck. Did Kurtzman write this? I feel ashamed for defending this show.But maybe Prodigy will be good?
>>126358107>Boilmer got some too.Now i'm not a doomsayer who thinks that Mariner becoming friends with her means Korrasami, but Boimler did fuck all this episode. He didn't 'worry less about stuff' like he said or really do anything.
>>126358187Everyone knows that Billups is a stonecold badass though.
>>126358250He saved the ship, almost died and Tendi saved his life mirroring what he did for her when she got turned into a scorpion.
>>126358226>it doesn't make sense for Mariner to hook up with JenniferNo shit. It's just bad writing and you're in denial.
>>126358240>stripping the hull reminded me of this https://youtu.be/cn4fW0EInqw?t=56>I don't know what a montage is.
>>126358271Talking about his T'ana level f-bomb outburst (three bleeps in a row).
>Billups cursing is considered humorStar Trek
>>126358187>>126358271>>126358308Man knows that his two story diletiun chugging woman wants, and it's to keep the crew together.
>>126358291>It's just bad writing and you're in denial.It's not bad writing, they haven't written this at all.
Mariner is 100% hooking up with Jenn, yes it feels forced and its just as dumb as if Boimler hooked up with some random named background character.Its going to be used to look into Mariners attachment issues and will probably end with Jenn dumping her/only wanting a fling.
>season finale>18 postersThey really shot themselves in the foot what that Jennifer thing, haven't they?
>>126358250>but Boimler did fuck all this episodeI mean, this season, and still accomplished stuffs along the way.
>>126358344It's fucking retarded. Mariner isn't into flings, the fact she didn't hook up with Ransoms proved that.So what does she like about Jennifer? Because looks clearly aren't everything for her.
>>126358347T'Lynfags are too ashamed to partcipate.
McMahan clearly has a lesbian fetish.First he retconned Ramsey to be Mariner's ex and now this.
>>126358344>Mariner is 100% hooking up with Jenn, yes it feels forced and its just as dumb as if Boimler hooked up with some random named background characterDon't even know if you are trolling or just irremediably broken.
>>126358379Shouldn't they be rejoicing that Boimler is free to pursue the superior Mariner? Or is Mariner getting cucked and feeling bad the whole appeal to that?
>>126358408>Or is Mariner getting cucked and feeling bad the whole appeal to that?Pretty much.
>>126358366>So what does she like about Jennifer?They aren't getting romantic together. God damn it.I guess Bedchel was right, people are so little used too women character only talking to each other when it's about men that the moment they don't, people automatically assume it's because they are a thing.
It was a decent episode, probably the best one they've done, but it was still overly compressed to fit the time despite being longer than a normal episode.This episode and the last episode have been far more like traditional TNG plots, just with character scenes heavily cut or spliced into action scenes and everything squished together to save time.If they want to abandon comedy that's great, the show's never been particularly funny and when it tries to have "funny" episodes they're just gross and violent, but they need a longer runtime or to split these episodes into two parts.Also, of fucking course they're still Ross and Rachel'ing Mariner and Boimler. You're a fucking moron if you every thought they'd do otherwise. Especially based on a CBS-edited interview.
>>126358408They were wrong about her appearing in today's episode, who knows what else they're wrong about?
>>126358433Please, I don't give a fuck about any of this shipping bait horseshit but they had a close shot of her tenderly taking the Andorian's hand to lead her to a private place
>>126358454Post pic, please.
>>126358454Jen also commented that Boimler was cool and hot.
>>126358418Well, it looks like she'll be very happy with her love life from now on.
>>126358489She'll be too busy worrying about her mom.
Giving Mariner a gal pal is a great idea, especially considering Tendi doesn't like her that much.But you just know they'll be lesbians.
>>126358454She brought her to the table where her other friends are
>>126358501She'll burn starfleet to the ground
>>126358501At least she has Jen to make her feel better.
>>126357200Boimler self-inserters BTFO. Pathetic faggots.
>>126357190It was a decent plot but this in particular was a little forced just for the sake of having the scene take place on the bridgeIt'd make a lot more sense to use a window in a center deck's forward-most rooms than try to pilot the ship while in danger of being launched into space
>>126358513>Giving Mariner a gal pal is a great idea, especially considering Tendi doesn't like her that much.Not even true.
>>126358533Stop projecting. I would be happy if she hooked up with Ransom.
>>126357782He's going to be spending next season knocking up his new vulcan waifu.
>>126358287Saving the ship ain't character growth, they do that every two episodes. And the 'being saved by tendi' moment didn't even last a second, it was nothing. She just saved him and that was it, whereas when he saved her it had meaning because he sacrificed his "look" to help a friend.
>>126357487>Seething about lesbianspretty sure your /tv/tards are already here
I'm upset we still havent seen Mariner interact with the admiral. I mean he was right fucking there.
>>126358598I'm not seething about lesbians. I'm seething about a forced romance with a background character, that wasn't even properly set-up.
>people getting angry over the possibility of Mariner kissing JenFirst of all, girls kissing girls is hot. And if you're invested in Boimler and Mariner getting together well don't worry this is an enlightened future society so I'm sure polyamory relationships are a thing.>>126358477 gets it, the Boims now has a chance to get with two attractive women and that's just big dick energy I've come to expect from such a chad.
>>126358586>>126358287Boimler's entire part in this episode could be cut and nothing would changeThe need to dive into a tube seemingly designed to trap a person underwater to release a hull panel was several layers of needless contrivance so Boimler would have something to do.
>>126358605Nah, that would have been interesting. Enjoy space lesbians.
>>126358576Still pathetic though slightly less so. YWNBACYou will never be a Commander.
>>126358570>Mariner you stupid bitch you better get the fuck out of here or I won't be able to hold back anymore and fucking kill you!What did Tendi mean by this, bros?
>>126357662shippers btfoI actually like Marinler but holy shit calm the fuck down people
>>126358609>First of all, girls kissing girls is hotNot everybody is a cuckold like you, anon
>>126358621>Enjoy space lesbians.I will.
>>126358618Yeah he was basically relegated to the background which is also what happened in the last season finale now that I think about it.
You get what you fucking deserve.
>>126358651Well it's offical, the word cuckold literally has no meaning anymore.
I love that Rutherford is such a nothing character that absolutely no one gives a shit about the "reveal" for his implant.
>>126358443>Also, of fucking course they're still Ross and Rachel'ing Mariner and Boimler. You're a fucking moron if you every thought they'd do otherwise. Especially based on a CBS-edited interview.At this point, I really don't want Mariner and Boimler to be a thing. She's a possessive cunt who treats him like property.Her sabotaging him wasn't even fucking addressed.
>>126357797Doc, yet scans ain't gonna pick up where I'm hurt
>>126358673>Always has been
>>126358687Look at this thread, it's mostly whining about lesbians and almost nothing else about the actual episode.
>>126358618>Boimler's entire part in this episode could be cut and nothing would changeThe ship would have been destroyed by the asteroids without it. And we are talking about his progression during the full season.
>>126358673If you're here you're either a man or an eunuch, ergo not a woman. Ergo, if you like dykes, you are a cuckold because you like to see women (Who would not touch you) do it
>>126358533>Boimler self-insertersAll the girls I know ship the hell out of Mariner and Boimler.
>>126358666>>126358586>Saving the ship ain't character growthBut it's the result of it.
>>126358710That's because the audience this show has curated with their monkey masturbation and crew orgies doesn't care about ships or Trek plots or science fiction, they care about memes and waifusThe last episode wasn't received well for its more ambitious plot (which didn't have nearly enough time to be done properly but it sure tried), it was received well because WHITE VULCAN WAIFU
I just don't want Boimler to end up like Finn.
>>126358618Drowning in whale pee was the character development we made along the way.
>>126358733>you could cut this part out of the episode and it would make no difference, the stuck panel and the release in the deadly water tunnel is contrived and disconnected>bro he had to remove the panel or the ship would explode!You are not very bright
>>126357379>Mariner is a bitchYes. This is not new information.
>>126358737>Who would not touch youWell they're fictional so that was never gonna happen in the first place.
>>126357190>the obvious frame jobIt's not a frame job. The Klingons gave the Pakleds another bomb, and they took it home and pressed the button because they're that fucking stupid. Next season will have Ma'ah make contact as basically the universe's only honest Klingon to fess up that it wasn't her fault.
This would have hurt a lot more if we didn't get a better version of Mariner last week. But she's probably a dyke too.
>>126358687Rutherford's character has just been running on the spot for 2 seasons. >>126358692I mean thats one of the reasons why I'm okay with her dating Jennifer. Let Boims hook up with someone else, let Mariner lose her shit and then actually address how shitty/possessive Mariner has been. Or they'll just never address it and I'll leave the series disappointed.
>>126358778Yes, but by being dykes, it becomes a definitive matter. Men like seeing fictional women because 'ooga booga i want woman like that to bang', if you actively want a woman who wouldn't do that, then you're a cuckold.
>>126358745Don't forget my klingon husbando.
>>126358795>Or they'll just never address it and I'll leave the series disappointedIt's this one.
>>126358766>>bro he had to remove the panel or the ship would explode!>You are not very brightWhere is the lie, though?
>>126358801>but by being dykes, it becomes a definitive matterNo I'm pretty sure it was them being fictional was what made it definite.
>>126358795Why should Mariner be pissed? She only wigged out in s1 because she thought it was a parasite
>>126358827No you buffoon, see what i wrote after that.
Regardless if you're a shipper or not, I think we can all agree that this would have been a far better moment if it was Mariner and Boimler instead.
>>126358801>Yes, but by being dykesThey are not, moron.
>>126358641Boimlerfag seething. I love self inserters getting BTFO.
>>126358855I'm talking about that anon who said "women kissing is hot", which is retarded.
>>126358826>Where is the lieTip: In English the colloquialism is "where am I wrong?"The only thing Boimler did was solve a problem that only existed due to extreme contrivance. You can cut the problem and his scenes without impacting any other part of the episode.You do realize we're talking about a script for a TV show, right? That you can cut and change things however you want?
>>126358855Yeah, Jen could also be bisexual.
>>126358858Girls ship the hell out of Mariner and Boimler, anon.
I thought Jet was going to be the one who would get in the way of Boimler/Mariner before it reached endgame.
>>126358842For ship bait reasons yes. For showing that the rest of the crew don't hate Mariner nearly as much as she thinks they do its better to have the character who Mariner's insulted for the past two seasons to save her.
>>126358801>anon is too simpleminded to even think of doing a pussy galore scenarioDisappointing.
>>126358873Jen's name refers to the whole literary canon of Andorians requiring a foursome in order to mate.
>>126358870No, it's not. It's the truth.
>>126358889No. Boimler saving Mariner would force her to acknowledge his growth and maybe reconsider being so overprotective.
>>126358872>The only thing Boimler did was solve a problem that only existed due to extreme contrivance.That's irelevant. You fail to make any point by pointing that out and still remain wrong about saying his absence would make no difference.You are simply moving the goal-post, there.
Man I always thought people talking about "bi erasure" were full of shit but it really is a thing.
>>126358916They did that with the dolphin tube. Mariner had to let go and trust him to do the job.
S3 is totally gonna open with a sex scene between these two.
>>126358884Oh please, Jet got rejected many many episodes ago. He never had a shot.
>>126358934No, they forced Mariner to go talk to her mom. It's not the same thing.
>>126358907Found the third.
>>126358939why are you posting badgey
>>126358870this, it's fucking disgusting and certainly isn't one of the most popular porn categories in the world.now THIS, this is HOT
>>126358939It's true and you know it.
>>126358899If you like dykes, that means you like women who wouldn't touch men. A man who likes women who don't like men is pathetic.
Why do you act so surprised?
>>126358872>if you rewrite an episode to remove the meaning of a characters' actions, none of their actions will have meaning!
>>126358990Mariner fucking Jen doesn't make her a lesbian.
>>126358884I mean the real ballsy mood would be for Jet to hook up with Boimler. Hot alien bisexuals is like the most vanilla woke shit they could go with. Plus it makes as much sense as Jennifer/Mariner.
>>126359010>A woman turning into a dyke doesn't make her a dyke!
>>126359010No, but it makes her an enormous cunt in retrospect. The way she treated Boimler could have been explained if they confirm she has a crush on him. But that's clearly not the case if she was into Jen all along.
>>126359008>I don't know what the word "contrivance" meansEven the ESL accepted that the only reason anything involving the final panel happened was to give Boimler something to do.Also removing the need for an action to take place (ie removing said contrivance) is not "removing the meaning of a character's (singular) actions"This really isn't something worth debating. If you think the panel getting stuck and the release being in a watery death tunnel wasn't a contrivance you're just an idiot that doesn't know the meaning of the word.
Remarkable amount of narrow mindedness coming from trek fans. If you're bi you were bi before, during and after dating someone of the same gender.
>>126358990>>126359023>>126359036we've already been over this countles times, every character in starfleet is bisexual unless explicitly stated otherwise
>>126359036>The way she treated Boimler could have been explained if they confirm she has a crush on himNo, it doesn't.
>>126359023Being bisexual isn't the same as being a lesbian. Even if you're in a same sex relationship you're still bisexual.
>>126359036>in retrospectwatMariner has always been an enormous cuntthat's the source of half of the jokes in this show
>>126359036Clearly she's into both of them because she's bisexual.
>>126358842Wait i thought the purpose of removing the hull was to demagnetize the ship. But theyre still using magboots
>>126359124The inner hull can still be magnetic, it's just the outer hull was polarized
>>126359124It was to remove the magnetic shielding in the plates (which doesn't make sense, magnetic shielding would prevent transporters from working)
>>126359049Someone in this thread argued that if you find 2 women kissing hot you're a cuckhold, there is no open mindedness here only rage as impotent as their dick.
They shot themselves in the foot.People only watch this show because purple twink and brown tomboy are cute together.
>>126358879Cope self inserter.
>>126358609>low testNOOO NOW MARINLER IS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!!!!>High testMarijenler is now canon.
>>126359195I'm in a Lower Decks Discord server and most avid Marinler shippers are girls. Real ones btw
>>126359188Mariner can be friends with both Jen and Boomler because mariner has two hands
>>126359049you've got to understand these are just simple fans, poor fans of the past who have had to suffer black captains like Michael Burnam, or strong female characters in Picard, this was their only chance at ever having "real trek" again without any of those mean sjws ruining their franchise with their pocs and their women doing things and now they have to deal with LESBIANS? it's all just too much for their poor simple brainsplus many of them just found out that Orville actually is dead and not just on a laughably long hiatus
>>126359243I won't, but this should give you a good idea of the current situation.
>>126358321the gag is, that a calm character (like almost mr rogers level of kind and collected) completlys loses it
>>126359294Dumbasses that fixate on one particular part of a fictional work shouldn't be surprised when they get burned. Shippers, ship autists, they're all the same and they always end up having meltdowns when things don't go their way.
>>126359263>implying the people that care about Trek and dislike monkey masturbation time are angry about lesbiansNo, that's all on you zoom zoom waifu-fags.
>>126359326>when things don't go their wayIt was more of a slap in the face.
>>126359263>plus many of them just found out that Orville actually is dead and not just on a laughably long hiatuswasn't s3 release date announced a couple of weeks ago?
>>126359327Ah yes because tumblr invented waifuing, shipping and lewd fanfiction in 2015 right?
>>126359325Yeah, but he's not prominent enough for the gag to work.This episode was light on gags and that's good. This staff is pretty awful at telling jokes. I much prefer them trying to tell more serious Trek plots like the last two episodes instead of the crap they came up with for their Interdimensional Cable episode.
>>126357200holy fuck go outside
>>126359343Getting assblasted because you make assumptions that the writers choose not to fulfil immediately is all on you.Also why the hell are you retards chicken littling about this shit there's been 2 seasons of a show Mike wants to make at least 7 of and things change quick.
>>126359347Just stating a fact, anon.The people that are mad aren't the people that were upset about cripple jokes or billups rape or boimler taint or monkey fuckingThe people that are mad are Mariner/Boimler shippers.Us TNGeezers couldn't give less of a fuck. We thinks lesbians are hot, because that was the prevailing attitude until the late 2000's among literally everyone.
>>126358443>probably the best one they've donenah thats last episode
>>126359374>Getting assblasted because you make assumptions that the writers choose not to fulfil immediately is all on you.The midseason finale was literally just shipbait.
>>126359405AnonHow do you not understand how ship-baiting works by nowYou can't ship-bait if they actually get together.
>>126359383>The people that are mad are Mariner/Boimler shippers.I think it's actually larpers for the most, pretneding that Mariner and her are actually getting together so they can pretned to be mad about it. Several layers of irony, there. And lots of stupidity.
>>126358673the word lost all meaning when shitheads started throwing it around in like 2012
>>126359124Someone should've brought this up and gotten yelled at by the crew like the metaphor dude when he brought up just warping to the otherside.>>126358838If Boimler told her that he got a promotion to a better ship do you think she would go "I'm so happy for you its a great opportunity" or would she freak out still?Its basically the same deal with Boimler spending a lot of time with a different girl. Even if she doesn't see him in that way, he is still her best friend and it would feel to her that she was being thrown away (even if thats not the case).>>126359294Yeah I was shocked at how popular the ship was compared to tendi/mariner. Boimler's+Mariner's chemistry just overwhelms all the other ships I guess.
Someone told McMahan that people only watch this show to see the purple twink get together with the brown tomboy, right? Right?
>>126357379My rage is slowly boiling over into depression, literally this, why this?
>>126359420nah they ain't larping, people actually are just that stupid and eager to be outraged.
>>126359294>>I won'tUhh. Can I PLEASE join? I want to make art for LD and a Discord server can help out with ideas and feedback.
>>126359405>Mariner + Boimler>Kirk + SpockShould've known they'd never get together after that.
>>126359481The show established that Boimler is into Mariner.
>>126359420you seriously think these people are larping? after the nonstop 3-day cryfest over the new superman?
>>126359435>Someone should've brought this upThe point of removing the hull was to remove the magnetic shielding, not demagnetize it.Magnetic shielding on the hull that can't be turned off makes zero fucking sense because it would prevent transporters from letting anyone leave the ship, but that's less immediately obvious to a viewer than mag boots.
>>126359481>Kirk + Spockone of JJ's many failings in his reboot trilogy
>>126359496Huh, I didn't know we had such experts in the science and technology of fictional universes that literally coined the term "technobabble"
>>126359435>tendi/marinerNobody ships that. Why would you even think anyone does?
>>126359515>I didn't know writers and fans cared about Trek scienceThen you're kind of retarded?
>>126359540I tried reading a Tendiner pic. These two characters just don't have any chemistry together.
Give me some cute Marinler fics. I wanna forget about the finale.
>>126357190I actually liked the episode, and even liked the idea of Mariner getting along with Jennifer as a way of lowering her defenses and all being in it together, which was the point of the episode's story.However, the whole lesbian thing is absolutely forced. Jennifer hasn't even been THAT much of a part of the show to claim it was always set up. Its fine if you wanna make Mariner gay, just with a character who isnt just a one-note gag. The whole Jennifer meme on these threads was just that, a meme, it was never an actual thing in the series until now, yet I'm supposed to care just because "gays"? Anyway, good season, but weird ship to end on.
>>126359551I'm not the one trying to gotcha comedy writers about made up shitoh hey transporters have magnetic hull compensators that account for the frequency because they wouldn't build something that broke their own tech oh look I fixed it
>>126359589Mariner getting over her forced rivalry should have been the end of it.
>>126359591>I'm not the one trying to gotcha comedy writers about made up shitI was literally telling someone else that got what they did wrong not to think about it you dumb bitch>magnetic hull compensators!Magnetic shielding's main purpose is to block teleportation, it's not a thing they just made up for this episodeI don't care that you don't care about science
>>126359636>Magnetic shielding's main purpose is to block teleportationSource?
>>126359540Why would I think that? I just assume lesbian/gay ships are the popular ones until shown otherwise, especially in Star Trek fandoms. Mind you this was before I watched the series going just off the promo art.After watching the series boimler/mariner became pretty clearly the only possible ship people would give a shit about(though maybe a certain vulcan can change that).
>>126359589>lesbian thing is absolutely forcedNuTrek curse
>>126358792honestly, considering how they repress emotions and desires, can vulcans even be homosexual or is it more like tolkien dwarves who are asexual but still get it up to make babies?
>>126359668Or... maybe it's because they aren't beholden to repressive network standards these days
>>126359660Star Trek VIAlso an episode of Discovery
>>126359680>bottom of the barrel wlw representationUh-huh.
Can you shippers just knock it the fuck off? It is possible for people to become friends without wanting to fuck. Mariner and Jennifer were being bitches to each other and they both learned they didn't need to be, simple as.
>>126357200Since she's just female Rick, I always expected her to be pansexual. I bet she fucks exocomps.
>>126359725You have to be autistic not to pick up on the romantic undertones.
>>126359494A lot of those posters were larping as superman fans.
>>126359740in what way is she female rick?
>>126359761It's clear now, Boimler is her Morty.
>>126359761Not him, but she's the designated hyper-competent jerkass protagonistThey fill the same role in the writing structure
>>126359756yes but the outrage over jon being bi was definitely not a larp
>>126359740Exocomps can replicate any tool.
>>126359774anon you can just slap other characters names to claim they are the same but that doesn't make it trueBy your standards Batman is actually Rick and Robin is Morty, all of batman is just a rick and morty clone because there are two characters and one treats the other as a sidekickthat's literally all the similarity there is, that Mariner kind of treats Boimler like her sidekick, and this isn't even fully accurate to the show because Boimler doesn't act like her sidekick he literally ditches her
>>126359049honestly, the issue is if she starts dating a woman, she might be stuck dating women because otherwise the lgbtq+ community loses its shit about queererasure it happened when Harley Quinn broke up with Poison Ivy and dated a man afterwards.
>>126359680ok but they did last minute hookups in both cases instead of actually building the romance
>>126359761technically in that she's the chaotic one that drags the normie into shenanigans but that's it
>>126359841oh yes the true worry, what if the writers get bullied on twitter
Well, that sucked.Back to shipping Ralsei and Kris I guess.
>>126359841this does not happen, rosa diaz in Brooklyn Nine Nine was a bisexual who dated a man and people loved it
>>126357379Well, the ep was "FINE",but this really kill all the development they have. Disappointed, just bring the vulcan girl already
>>126359634yeah, that would have fit in, but they took it too far and with a worthless character. I cant see anyone getting excited for this development besides people who just like gay stuff for the sake of it.
>>126359841Then you tell them that's bi erasure.Then they say they don't care because they always hated bisexuals anyways.
>>126359868She's also hypercompetent and "street-smart," and usually ends up cleaning up the messes of others while also having family issues.
>>126359911Yeah but bi people don't exist. They're cis pretending to be gay or lesbian so they don't get the rope.
>>126359914not really, seems more like you just wanna follow your preconceived ideas rather than like what actually happened in most episodes.
>>126357211au contraire this opens me up to self insert more having a cute vulcan gf
>>126359784Mariner hasn't been super competent since season 1 it feels like.Episode 10: Her contribution was being whiny then getting rescuedEpisode 9: Just spent time with her MotherEpisode 8: Failing her Holo training repeatedly (the horses weren't rigged)Episode 7: Has to sit around injured while she gets rescued by BoimlerEpisode 6: Is grossly incompetent while handling dangerous material and then causes tendi to turn into a horrible monsterEpisode 5: Fails to crash a party, does manage a pretty cool car chase but only after being trickedEpisode 4: Competent but ultimately saved by Boimler, againEpisode 3: Fucks up with the love doll and then fucks up the orion infiltrationEpisode 2: Has to be saved by Tendi/Rutherford since she angered the flying RoombasEpisode 1: Saves the day by kicking Ransom in the ballsSo I guess you could say she was competent episode 1/4/5 but she been a pretty major fuck up this season.
>>126359925You're just being biphobic.And it's that easy.
>>126359885Kris doesn't like Ralsei very much
>>126359969The player is possessing him anyway. I can self-insert as Kris and hug the fluffy boy all I want. He's powerless to stop it.
>>126359962They started writing her down in season 2 and focusing more on the ensemble and the bridge crewWith the exception of some of the worst episodes of TV I've ever sat through they've also trended away from comedy and the show has been better for it.
>>126358802My guess: That dude will be the new captain of Cerritos, transferred temporarily to a Starfleet ship, so Federationt and Klingons can do a joint investigation of the Pakled Planet bombing. And the comedy next season will be about a Klingon captain running a Starfleet ship the Klingon way.
>>126359885You do know ralsei is basically his brother, right?
>>126359584>I wanna forget about the finale.Why? It was a good finale.
>>126360008I don't know, Chapter 2 kinda nixed that theory.
>>126359885>thread's resident shippers are also neo-homestuck retardsexplains so much
>>126360008Ralsei isn't AsrielHe's Kris' childhood self reflected by the fountain, the same as Lancer is Susie's childhood selfKris wore fake pink horns to fit in with his family
>>126360026Noelle / Susie > Mariner / Jennifer
>>126359911cbs might still give in to the pressure of twitter
>>126359589>However, the whole lesbian thing is absolutely forcedThere was no lesbian thing to begin with.It has nothing more than what you said yourself:>Mariner getting along with Jennifer as a way of lowering her defenses and all being in it together, which was the point of the episode's story.It was just that and yet you have decided to lend intends tot he writers that were never there:>yet I'm supposed to care just because "gays"?She isn't romantically (or sexually) interested with Jennifer. It's your mind who is broken. Jesus, what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>126360040MarinerxJennifer doesn't even exist yetJennifer is basically a non character, they could come back next season and basically writer her however they want and no one would really be able to claim she is out of character compared to the old version
>>126360057>She isn't romantically (or sexually) interested with Jennifereh... her calling jennifers butt cute kinda implies she atleast wants to bang her
>>126359634>>126359903>Mariner getting over her forced rivalry should have been the end of it.BUT IT FUCKING WAS, YOU DENSE FUCKS!Jesus Christ, just tell me you are trolling. How come you get so fuckng upset about something you construct in your own mind only.All Mariner and Jennifer did was passing the Bedchler test without it being conflictual.
>>126360068She has been confirmed bi in a previous episode. She has got more meaningful interactions with Tendi than Jennifer but no one is shipping them.
>>126360079This is Sapho and her friend denial tier
>>126357200Didn't we meet her ex girlfriend that one time? Ramsey?
I for one saw this coming.
>>126360006Good idea, but Feds and Klingons are in a sorta cold war, aren't they? They aren't technically enemies, but they're not going to say "hey here's one of our spaceships go wild.""Special envoy" I could see, stuck with the lower deckers (Boims, who gets a pip for it) to keep him out of the loop, and then it's up to them to realize the misunderstanding and prove Freeman's innocence.
>>126360095yes, but that doesnt mean she definatly wont end up with jennifer, so you guys are right, we will have to wait and see
>>126360068idk, seems like a rather bland comment to read intoremember her biting her lip while staring at half naked Ransom trying to tell herself to not get turned on?If they wanted to do a quick bit to show Mariner was attracted to Jen, well I think they might have layed it on thicker
>>126360079>All Mariner and Jennifer did was passing the Bedchler test without it being conflictual.They literally started talking about Boimler.
>>126360101It's not. You need more than that to establish romantic interest. Mariner and Tend had more meaningful interactions than this.
>>126360130>You need more than that to establish romantic interest.You don't. It's literally just McMahan being a hack writer.
>>126360111So did anyone that knows anything about AndoriansHer taking the time to argue with Mariner was the Andorian equivalent of shameless flirtingHer not arguing with Boimler at all is an indication that she doesn't really like him all that much
>>126360120>yes, but that doesnt mean she definatly wont end up with jenniferThat doens'twarrant the "it come from nowhere" and "there hasn't been enough build up to justify it" comments.Not saying it won't happen, but all the people complaining about a "forced shipping" are out of their mind when there is still basically nothing.
>>126360127>omg why is Mariner into this girl instead of Chad Boimler?>Mariner still just never stops talking about Boimleroh yeah the ships totally sinking guys.
>>126360018How the hell did it? He's a carbon copy of Asriel.>>126360030That's just plain stupid. We know young kris was much more of a troublemaker menace. Ralsei is way too kind. Lancer isn't susie either - that's just stupidPlain and simple, they are basically escapist 'people' created to make the dark world better for them. Susie got the 'kid who actually likes her' she needed to give her a push, Kris got his 'brother' again.
>>126360157He's a pet.
>>126360127>They literally started talking about Boimler.Afterward.to pass the Bedchler test, it simply need to not be exclusively about men.
>>126360127Bitches love the Boims.
>>126360117No, Federation and Klingons are allies. Even more so after the Dominion War. That's why the Klingon captain last week was pissed that Klingons had gotten soft cozying with the peaceful Federation.
>>126360149>It's literally just McMahan being a hack writer.You do'nt blame the writer when YOU are the one seeing something that isn't there in the first place and complain it shouldn't be there.It's entirely the fault of your broken mind.
>>126360158>that's stupid! you're stupid!I think you missed a whole lot of the symbolism in the first chapter my dudeHint: there's a reason the line "Quiet people PISS ME OFF" is repeated by Susie and the KingDouble Hint: Susie learned that line from someone else
>>126360165>>126360190oh please, he's more an emotional support dogwatch her date Jen for like a week get in one argument and instantly run crying into Boimler's arms
>>126360158Ralsei and Kris flirt with each other though.
How much of this is gonna actually get into status quo?
>>126359679Not keeping up with lore as a whole but Vulcans are so into arranged marriages and eugenics that while gay ones most likely exist they still have to go through the "logical" option.
This sounds a lot less hot in hindsight.
>>126360213..They don't. YOU Do. You're the faggot making Kris try to kiss his brother. We know that because Kris himself doesn't like it when you pick the Ralsei choices. Kris gets the least HP points from him.
There isn't a definite Mariner-Jennifer romance. But there also isn't a definite NOT Mariner-Jennifer romance either. The writers clearly left it unresolved, so they can have the freedom next season to push it whatever direction they like.
>>126360213That just seems like Ralesi being supportive, but didn't Kris literally have a book about purple dragons?Also you're able to ask them both out individually to the fair or something right?
>>126360234Kris has absolutely no reaction to any tea except for Susie's.
>>126360244sounds like someone actually watched the episode
>>126360244>The writers clearly left it unresolvedIt seems rather that they have resolved their conflict.but it's wild how so many people are flipping off at the mere possibilities that there is now a possibility for them to date.Like, how would they have resolved them burrying the hatchet? Telling"You and me are now no longer hating ech other, but we will not enter in a relationship in the futre because we are absolutely not into each other and this is only the start of a possible, non-sexual friendship".Is this the kind of writing they demand?
>>126360288Well that explains all the dolphin rape.
>>126360288We have only see Belugas, so far, tough.
>>126360244Uhh no, whatever happened in the season finale is clearly how things are going to be for the rest of the series look at last season now get screaming.
>>126359325>Billups is Mr. Rogers IN SPACE!!!Holy shit this makes a disturbing amount of sense
>>126360253Yeah, picrel didn't exactly prove my point. What I'm saying is that there definitely are romantic undertones to Ralsei and Kris' relationship.I was firmly in the "he's his brother" camp back in Chapter 1, but Chapter 2 definitely started hinting at the romantic aspect.That is of course assuming that this isn't just the player coercing Kris into this.
>>126359791What the FUCK did you just call me, you little shit?!
>>126360363its absolutely the player. When Kris drinks Ralsei tea, it doesn't heal him as much as the tea from other members. Its the player forcing this relationship
>>126360264in fact we know that the "real" kris actually likes susie, as for example he gets angry without player input when a classmate badmouths her
>>126360244I dunno, I've seen enough of these gays in cartoons to tell the body and facial reactions that imply a crush on each other. If it was just platonic then Mariner would have been way calmer than what she ended up doing.
>>126360264no, but we do get a number of HP depending on who you drink the tea. Susie and Noelle tea heal you more points than Ralsei tea
>>126360398The thing is, Kris can resist you. There are certain dialogue options that Kris won't let you choose.Whatever you're doing with Ralsei, he's allowing it.
>>126360079>BUT IT FUCKING WAS, YOU DENSE FUCKS!Nah, I saw the hints, the glances, and awkardness. That's the gay stuff in every cartoon these days.
can you idiots stop discussing shipping that isn't even related to Star Trek?Now how does the Federation feel about poly? Jenmariler when?
>>126360468No one cares about Lower Decks outside of the ship that just got shot down and the waifu that showed up for one episode
>>126360468>Federation feel about polywhy would they give a shit? It's your businesseven the big man Gene would have said that
>>126360474>ship that just got shot downIt's a shame really. They had some amazing chemistry.
>>126360465>Nah, I saw the hints, the glances, and awkardness.No you didn't. you are imagining it all. You have frequented far too much shipping sites.>That's the gay stuff in every cartoon these days.there has been more meaningful interactions between Mariner and Tendi.
>>126360264Because he only likes Susie. More than that, his HP For Noelle can get to even higher than Ralsei if he spends time with her. Kris just doesn't like Ralsei
>>126357782Good, that means more Boimler for self-insert shippers like myself
>All this doom posting.Wait till season three.
wait i just realised, is tendi getting her own quarter now or how does her promotion work?
>>126360434Are you stupid? No, he can't resist you. In the end, you specifically get umcomfortable if you choose any answer that isn't Susie. Kris clearly doesn't like Ralsei much.
>>126360495>fishnet while on dutymariner isnt so perverted
>>126360513She will be starting training. Joining Bridge is the end goal.
>>126360520>No, he can't resist youHe literally defies you in the ending of both chapters.
>>126360468>Now how does the Federation feel about poly?Gets a thumbs up from James T. Kirk.
>everyone thought the cute emotionally unstable vulcan was going to be Mariner's gay bait>Jen comes out of left field and steals the slot>everyone was going to bitch no matter whatdie mad about it>>126359227also>Boimler is implied to have at least briefly hooked up with drama club girl with the bob cut>Mariner has now low key inducted Jen into the LD squad>alien furry has fucked offWow they really did break up that whole social circle, didn't they? Like a friendship amoeba, engulfing and absorbing other friend groups into itself. marijenler is worth exploring, mariner needs a catalyst to finally accept this thing she has with boimler, the only soluiton is a Jenifer Sandwich, know what I'm sayin? Jenifer's gonna be the warp core and boims and becky are gonna be the nacelles.
>>126360511Don't be a tease.
>>126360495An OTP maybe dead for you but an OT3 has rise in it's place.
>>126360066>X ship doesn't exist yetMotherfucker season-spanning shipping wars have started over less material than we got in this one episode.
>>126360543And in order to do so he has to rip you out of his body and shamble around as a soul-less huskKris doesn't like Ralsei that much, they're friends but not good ones.
>>126360602>Kris doesn't like Ralsei that much, they're friends but not good ones.Well, this could be because Ralsei reminds him of Asriel. Also, Kris strikes me as a type of person that needs some time to open up.
>>126360647>he needs time to open upthis makes sense if you discount the likelihood that there's a time loop and Kris has been through these events before
>>126360564>Jen comes out of left field and steals the slotShe steal nothing.
>>126360662That's possible. You're talking about Kris being the Knight?[/spoiler[It would make sense. Deltarune is supposed to have only one ending.
>>126360601Maybe, but there has been more material between Mariner and Tendi than between Mariner and Jennifer.
It's possible that Jack Quaid talked about the wrong season.
Holy shit shut the fuck up about your homestuck videogame I've seen people banned for off topic for posting live action trek here and I have to read this garbage taking up 50% of the thread?
>>126360601and? Glad to know you acknowledge that you're just as delusional as the most crazed and insane of shippers of all time
>>126360680I don't think Kris is the knight and I don't think he had opportunity to open the Library fountain. I think Alvin is the knight. I think Kris tried to stop him and failed and that's why he brought in you/gave his body to you. That's why you overwrite Kris' save file to start the game.
>>126360711Die [[HYPERLINK BLOCKED]] about it.
>>126358240>I feel ashamed for defending this showThe falseflag is real
So, the people complaining about the gay shipping were raiders from /tv/?
>>126360711Do you think Ralsei and Boimler would be friends?How would the Cerritos crew react to a dark world?
>>126360789Some yes I think they started it though
>>126360818Deltarune AU>Kris = Mariner (protagonist, divorced parents, keeps hugging Ralsei)>Ralsei = Boimler (pacifist, fluffy boy)>Susie = Rutherford (muscle, has a crush on Noelle)>Noelle = Tendi (timid personality, dark past)
>>126360789I doubt it, people love to blame raiders from other places, but just because they are also /pol/tards and probably from /tv/ doesn't mean we can just dismiss them as foreignersbecause random homophobes complaining more for political ideological reasons than anything to do with the actual cartoon or comic is super standard shit for modern /co/
>>126360822>>126360789>NO SHIPPERS BEING MAD CAN'T BE /co/welcome to 4chan>>126360836everything works but SusieShaxs fits better
>>126360789there's also a lot of ambient /pol/ detritus just floating around. >the Stop-Liking-What-I-Don't-Like autism force is spamming off-topic shit in an attempt to get the thread deleted/banned>there are actual autists who think this is the place the spam their autistic deltarune shitI don't know which is worse.
>>126360847>people don't like a forced lesbian relationship>that means they're raiders
>>126360874It's not forced.
>>126360851Dark Fountain appears in the supply closet.
>>126360851>>NO SHIPPERS BEING MAD CAN'T BE /co/When there is so little to it to justify the ship? that kind of anger usually only start when the pairing is kissing, or at least blushing.
>>126360564>Boimler is implied to have at least briefly hooked up with drama club girl with the bob cutwhen
>>126360874There is no exiting lesbian relationship to begin with. therefore, it can't be forced.
>>126360890>two characters that didn't have a single positive interaction hook-up>not forced
>>126360920but no one has hooked up?
>>126360920I shouldn't be surprised the shipfag is also the dultarune autist.
Mariner is gonna need a new best friend after Boimler gets promoted to boyfriend.
>>126360942it's basically the same war>noo my tomboy with issues is being stolen by the snow lesbian
>>126360945yeah still don't get why some people think you can't be best friends with someone you're also in love with?
>>126360962The difference is that Noelle and Susie was well set up.
>>126360855>>126360942I don't know what you mean, from my perspective we're the ones actually discussing the show and it's characters instead of throwing a tantrum like you>>126360900The Boimler/Mariner shipbait is half the show and 99% of the fandom. I don't expect them to ever actually get together until some kind of series finale because that's how you string that kind of fanbase along, but Mariner having another lez romance with Jennifer (which has been built up, Jen being a bitch to her is Andorian flirting) is obviously gonna ruffle some feathers. By design.
>>126360920>>two characters that didn't have a single positive interaction hook-upThey don't hook-up. therefore it's not forced.I want you to acknowledge how sick you mind is.1. You actually acknowledge there is nothing in the writing to justify them getting romantically involved2. Out of a scen who allow the interpretation that they are simply growing tonot hate each other anymore, you decide to give it the interpretation that you hate the most to happens3. Get angry and complain that it is forced, when it's perfectly valid to consider there is nothing going on anyways.Your mind is sick, maybe you should consult someone.
>>126360970Don't you fucking lie to me
>>126360962>Mariner/Jen is the same as the anger over Noelle/SusieAbsolutely.>>126360988>I don't know how Andorians workcute
>>126360979>(which has been built up, Jen being a bitch to her is Andorian flirting)They hate each other so they must love each other is clearly not the trope they are going for, though.
>>126360906She asked him out to a Winger Bingston show after the Redshirts broke up.
>>126361006Jen never hated MarinerBeing aggressive and argumentative is how Andorians show affection/interest
>>126361005>>I don't know how Andorians work>cuteThat's irrelevant to Mariner.
>>126360988It has happened before in NuTrek.
>>126361026That was particularly weird since the two of them had several canon straight relationships before this.
>>126360999Susie was obsessed with Noelle since day one.
>>126361026Even that had more build up. Fuck, mariner and Jen has more build up than Mariner and Tendi.
>>126361023We are talking about who Mariner is attracted to, though.
>>126360979You're the one melting down that the show is ruined because the two leads haven't shacked up by the end of the second season and needs all romances heavily telegraphed as if they're all fairytale true love.
>>126361026that was so bad because these two characters never interacted before>>126361037again, everyone in star trek is bisexual
>>126361014Jen is also the first to back him up. I like how some of the side-character have come into their own, Billups and Jen in particular get a lot more time to shine.
>>126360979>but Mariner having another lez romance with Jennifer (which has been built up, Jen being a bitch to her is Andorian flirting) is obviously gonna ruffle some feathers. By design.Ha! Joke's on the them because I just immediately switched to shipping Marijenler now. It's the new McSprik.
A nice fanwork for the episode of last week.
>>126361037Jesus christ you really don't get the whole bisexual thing do you
>>126361072>You're the one melting down that the show is ruinedNigga I don't give a fuck about shipping, I think the show has been generally terrible and the last two episodes were the first time it's been decent.Don't confuse me calling you stupid with any other position.
>>126357782What are you talking about? vulcan Mariner is now the only logical choice
>>126361102Correct. I'm the other Deltarune fag.
>>126361095>>126361083>everyone in Trek is bisexualThat's a stupid assumption and also ironically homophobic.
>>126361102>I'm not mad, you're mad says the autist now appending all his posts with deltarune shit because someone told him to stop posting about deltarune
>>126357846>Dumbass grade school mentality.So average women?
I keep missing many refs, in this show.
>>126361121Please stay on topic, anon, this is a Lower Decks thread.>>126361069Mariner spent way too much time preoccupied with Jen to not be at least a bit attracted to her from the start.
>Boimler saw the Koala>Tendi freaks the fuck outit's the lil things
>>126361170>Mariner spent way too much time preoccupied with Jen to not be at least a bit attracted to her from the start.Gaslighting. The first time they interact she assaults her while running off to save Boimler.Second time they interact is when she tells her to shut up when Mariner was sending Boimler angry voice messages.There was no build-up.
>>126361170mariner commenting about her small but was a real supid sexy flanders moment
>>126361119nah, straight and gay people just don't wanna admit that their condition isn't something in born but a bias developed in them by societyso in a perfect or at least improved society, people wouldn't have an inherent bias regarding genders. Not that I don't think people would have preferences, but its a rather different mind set than like identity politics tribalism where its important to label your tribe and fly your flag.You should be way more concerned about your feelings for your significant other and not what their gender identity is.
>>126361177Shaxs didn't see the Koalahe is an imposter
Have those fucking dolphins ever shown up before?
>>126361170>Mariner spent way too much time preoccupied with JenShe only ever mention her when she cross her, which is, you know, normal.Like I have said, there is much more that has been established between Tendi and Mariner than with Jen.
>>126361190>nah, straight and gay people just don't wanna admit that their condition isn't something in bornThank you for demonstrating how "everyone in the future is bi!" is homophobic.
>>126361196the koala knew he was going to coma back to life
>>126361183>There was no build-up.There is nothing that demand a build up t begin with. There is no gaslighting because no one is trying to convince you of anything to begin with.
>>126361228She wasn't preoccupied with Jennifer. Never.
>>126358187>Billups fucking losing it?What are talking about?
>>126361190>nah, straight and gay people just don't wanna admit that their condition isn't something in born but a bias developed in them by societySource?
>>126361218So Boimler is dead, then?I dunno, something fishy's up.Boimler saw the Koala while Shaxs saw a black mountain (Paramount logo)
>>126361245he started swearing a lot when he usually is a supremely chill guy
>>126358240>stripping the hull reminded me of this https://youtu.be/cn4fW0EInqw?t=56Me too brother!
>>126361198Those were Belugas.
>>126361258>Paramount logofuck I didn't connect until now
>>126361242That's explicitly what I have said.
>Mariner sees Jen and whatserface making out in the simulation>"Oooh">sees Boimler and Jet taint>dives out the airlockI can't wait to hear /co/ scream and piss and shit about another lesbian couple coming completely "out of nowhere."
>>126361290>Mariner spent way too much time preoccupied with Jen to not be at least a bit attracted to her from the start.
>>126361292Fuck off. By this logic Mariner and Boimler had just as much build up.
>>126358433>I guess Bedchel was rightKYS fag, also Mariner and Jen was ok, and everyone is a fag, no romantic undertones, and Jen is the traitor
>>126361242She kinda was. We all saw that she singled out Jen and had this sitcom rivalry going through, in fact somebody previously floated that they USED to date before the series started and that's why they acted catty towards each other.
>>126361309>>126361242You realize there's more than two people in the thread, right?
>>126361309>>Mariner spent way too much time preoccupied with JenThat was not me. I made those posts >>126361207>>126361228There is no gay ship to complain in the first place. You do'nt get to complain about "there was no build up" when there is nothing that require build up in the first palce.
>>126361292Hey man Mariner is bisexual and what you're doing right now is bierasure.
>>126361190>nah, bisexual and gay people just don't wanna admit that their condition isn't something in born but a bias they have to be conditioned to accept before pubertyftfyNo, I'm sure everyone's issues with bisexuals is because they manage to identify as promiscuous and that makes them, inherently shitty people since every relationship stops being specials and is just as stepping stone for then next one until they aren't charming or pretty enough anymore to not end up alone
>>126361326by that logic she's got as much chemistry with Ransom
Season 3 is going to open with Mariner finishing a date with JenThis infuriates absolutely everyone that is a fan of Lower Decks and I find that just lovely.
>>126361376Sounds like somebody got their heart broken and now is just angry at the coolest people on earth.
Was anyone else really happy they explicitly canonized the ship has a viewscreen and not a bridge window?
>>126361347>She kinda was. We all saw that she singled out Jen and had this sitcom rivalry going throughNo. She assaulted Jennifer when she was running off to save Boimler, that was their first interaction. Next time they interact Jennifer tells her to shut up when Mariner was sending Boimler angry voice messages at night. They had one interaction this season, in the pilot.>in fact somebody previously floated that they USED to date before the series started and that's why they acted catty towards each otherThis was never stated in the show.
>>126361388Do you think she has a worm, or not?
>>126361376bisexualchads makes this anon seethe
>>126361403>>126361424Man are you gonna be pissed next seasonWell, you've got a whole hiatus to stew in the fear of the inevitable Mariner/Jen scenes in season 3.
>>126358842NOPE, Random and Mariner would be a much better option. Why? because Mariner don't trust Ransom.Ransom is a chill dude and captain material, but Mariner hate him.
>>126357387We got the upgrade.
>>126361438I won't be watching it.>>126361443Agreed.
>>126361376>they manage to identify as promiscuousThat's a stereotype my dude.
>>126361376>GET OUTTA HERE YOU UNVIRGIN
>>126361416She explicitly doesnt>>126361385Only the Marinler shippers in these threads are this upset to be fair, from what I've seen on other sites everyone is happy
>muh mariner and boimlerlmao I told you faggots this was going to happen. Did you really thing a cartoon made in current year would get away with having the male and female lead be romantically involved? Fucking lmao.
>>126361438Susie will be stolen by Berdly anyway
>>126361457>Marinler shippersThat's like 99% of the fanbase, sans Reddit.
>>126361416No, she complained about her sister never shutting up about being joined.
Well I no longer care about this show. Enjoy the rest of the seasons anons.
>>126361448>shippingfag got deluded into thinking this was a romance show and not a Star Trek show,no better than the Doctor Who fans who quit the show when the doctor got old>>126361470delusional shipfag>sans reddit99% of the fanbase, sans 99% of the fanbase?
>>126361485Same. Was fun while it lasted.
>>126361485Noooooooooooobody cares about you.
>>126361457>She explicitly doesntWhen was this stated?
Shipfags are fucking weird.Why do they completely break down if their chosen ship doesn't happen asapThere will probably be 8 seasons of this show and we just got done with the second.
>>126361502Tumblr is 99% of the fanbase. Aside from /r/LowerDecks and /r/StarTrek, pretty much everyone on Reddit is hostile or indifferent towards the show.
>>126361448>I won't be watching itThat's fine too, in case you didn't notice I don't really like the show outside the last two episodes.>>126361469Ahh, I see you as well are a man of taste.
>>126361528>aside from the biggest trek subs by far nobody likes the show!
Can someone explain to me how some dolphins were able to talk and also be Starfleet officers?
>>126360890at this point, every lesbian pairing is forced and we all know it.just like we all know that if Mariner actually is pushed with Jen, the lezzies will scream bloody murder if she ever goes back to dating a man.
>>126361544They're both echochambers. /r/StarTrek loves all NuTrek.
>>126361513When she went on a date with Rutherford in season 2 episode 1 and she mentions her sister has one and won't shut up about it and the implication is that she does not.
>>126361554Discovery and Picard are great, though.
>>126361550"the lezzies" should understand full well she's already said she's bisexualare we really basing story decisions off of theoretical twitter outrage now?
>>126361512You cared enough to respond. Calm down I'm not insulting the show I'm just saying the character dynamic I was invested in got flushed down the toilet for another cheap Korrasami maneuver. I'm not going to force myself to watch a show with writers that do this shit.
>>1263615132x01 during the date with Rutherford she complains about her sister bragging about being joined all the time
>>126361549They are Belugas and I guess they were elevated and now are sentient enough to join Starfleet. Cetaceans working on the ship has been a thing that has been mentioned several times in other shows. But rarely seen.
>>126361567Double standards, anon. Most bi characters in media end up in homosexual relationships, everyone knows that.
>>126361528Not true, Daystrom, startrekgifs, and the Star Trek Online subreddits are all completely positive towards it>>126361554they've been tearing into the new Discovery trailer
>>126361083>everyone in star trek is bisexual>the author's barely disguised fetishyeah, because somehow 2% of the population are going to replace 98% of the population...
>>126361522>non sketch fanart of the episodeWell that was fast
>>126361554r/StarTrek has been bitching about Discovery season 4 being the same old galaxy ending threat shit and butchering the ferengi
>>126361593Anon, humans are naturally queer. Cisnormativity is a lie created by Christianity.
>>126361564Ok most of us here dislike and or hate those shows right?
>>126361522saying fuck you to shippers is the best thing the show could have done desu
>>126361251study some history, there is nothing natural or necessary about the way things are nowjust by framing the ideas as straightness being natural and gayness being a deviation you literally wrap people's future opinions. We should probably try to warp people's opinions so that they discriminate less based on sex, hence try to predispose everyone to being bi
>>126361603No, I really liked Picard. Only contrarians on /tv/ dislike them.
>>126361522Shipfag here, I was all on board for Mariner hooking up with Boimler eventually, but Jennifer is fine too. Tbh I don't think Mariner apologizing and grabbing her hand instantly means they're fucking but based on what McMahan has said I assume they'll be a thing next season. I also think it's cool that Mariner thinking Barnes and Jennifer are hot is actually going somewhere. I fucking hate bi erasure.
>>126361569Same, anon. Here, have a wholesome Marinler AMV.https://youtu.be/l4mQIY1Z4Qo
>>126361603Hate Picard, Discovery is at all times good and garbage simultaneously
>>126361588Is this worth watching or should I just read the details and move on?
>>126361603correct, largely regarded as trash
>>126361190>nah, straight and gay people just don't wanna admit that their condition isn't something in born but a bias developed in them by societySo you mean we can actually cure the gay and remove their annoying, self righteous, destructive group from the earth and return our world and stories back to sanity?You heard them anons. Let's get to work.
So how much did the Cetaceans sexually molest Boimler while he was unconscious? It was obviously a non-zero amount, right?
>>126361627>McMahan has said I assume they'll be a thing next season.What did he say?
>>126361603There are things I liked and things I disliked about both shows. I don't love or hate them.
>>126361643It's about the TOS crew going back in time and saving whales from extinction because apparently they're sentient. That's it.
>>126361651They seem to like Rutherford
>>126361616>study some history, there is nothing natural or necessary about the way things are nowMost history studies indicate there has always been gay relationship. You are basing your argument on nothing actually substantial. You have nothing to back your statement.
>>126361650>girls kissing girls is the reason the world is insanea highly illogical conclusion
>>126361652Just that a main theme of Season 2 was Mariner's sexuality.
>>126361651>So how much did the Cetaceans sexually molest Boimler while he was unconscious?It's dolphins who are serial rapists. Those were Belugas.
>calm down Insulting people on the internet is fun. I like Mariner / Boimler too but you're taking things too seriously. If the mere hint that Mariner might have another romantic interest is that painful for you maybe it is for the best to focus your interest on another show.
>>126361652That season 2 would explore Mariner's sexuality, most likelyAnd that Boimler would learn what Mariner means to him in the finale (lol family lolololol)
Did anyone else get the vibe that the ship's crew was too good to be on such a shitty ship like the Cerritos? It feels like they all need to be promoted together to a better class of ship after this episode
>>126361695They did ask for someone to get naked and jump in a few times.
>>126361693That come up in the episode with Tendi, when she say she has dated bad girls.
>>126361698I didn't mind Mariner and Ransom. I don't mind Mariner and Tendi.This was just a total asspull.
>>126361485Same.But I'll still be here to bitch at people
>>126361718What is it you LD fanboys kept saying over and over?Ahh, yes.Die mad about it.
>>126361714See, they asked. That's how you know they aren't dolphins.
>>126361733>Die mad about it.I will.
>>126361718Mariner and Jennifer makes way more sense than Mariner and Tendi
>>126361651That tunnel Boimler went down was their rape cave.
Why do you all act like this mariner jennifer thing will be permanent
>>126361712I kinda think of it as typical Starfleet competency. The crew is amazing but the people of the Federation live in a paradise that churns out amazing Starfleet officers every single year.
It's just McMahan inserting his lesbian fetish into the show. He retconned Ramsey to be Mariner's ex after the episode has aired.
>>126361718>This was just a total asspull.there is no asspull because they didn't even try to pull anything in the first place. They don't hat each other any more. anything else you see in their interaction is your own imagination, not something the writers implied, you stupid fuck.
>>126361567Nah, modern progressives always throw a fit when the bisexual's true love is someone of the opposite sex, it already recently happened with Loki where they seethed so hard they started making a false narrative about incest
>>126361762>Mariner literally said she keeps thinking about Jennifer and her stupid little butt
>>126361759>It's just McMahan inserting his lesbian fetish into the showIn this case, no, because nothing is being inserted.
>>126361770>modern progressivesYou mean 15 year old girls on twitter, because those are the people you are hearing from.
All of these cishet tears are fucking delicious.
>>126361762>being in denial this hardIt's incredible how hard people are getting triggered by the black and blue lesbians
>>126361762They're shippers, of course they work with imagination and exaggeration, they were already writing fanfics about T'lyn stealing Boimler from Mariner ending in threesomes before it was even confirmed that she'd come back to the Cerritos.>>126361755I agree, but then the Cerritos crew is still treated pretty badly and it feels harsh and undeserved
>>126361567"The lezzies" never understand such things and we all know it. Bi does not exist to them. Every woman is a lesbian. She either hasn't realized it, or she has and is one forever, that is their mentality.>basing our stories on twitter outragethat is the general habit these days, either to calm it down or to sate it before it starts.Just look at all the ones in this thread screaming that it's now mariner/jen and that anyone else is a btfo bitch. now imagine their rage if/when we actually do get the mariner/boims pairing that has been promised. We all know they'll scream their bloody heads of here, and everywhere else.
>>126361774And? doesn't mean they are romantically involved.She has said way hornier things about Boilmer, Rutherford and Ramson and she is not in a relationship with them either.She is just bi, that's it.
>>126361778>because nothing is being insertedYeah, they're scissoring instead.
>>126361799Well, I hope you're right. But let's face it, you probably aren't.
>>126361770Stop forcing this meme. Also Loki was typical Disney piss poor half rep anyways
>>126361602>Cisnormativity is a lie created by Christianity.and yet, throughout history, in both abrahamic and pagan cultures, hetrosexuality has been the norm across the planet.queers are delusional in all regards.
>>126361791>>being in denial this hardThere is no denial, there is objectively more material beteen MAriner and Tendoi.You are the one who has issues because1. You are stating that there is nothign to justify this ship2. Still see this ship happening anyway.You can't complain that there is nothing to back this ship yet at the same time say that all the clue are here. It's one or the other, but make up your mind.
>>126361522But what if this is a Marco Maneuver where the showrunners pair up the 2 main protagonists with other people just to break it up and have them end up together?I'd argue that was way worse.
>>126361810Fuck you, Berdly.
>>126361834>THERE IS NO DENIALHe said, diving further into denial
>>126361814>But let's face it, you probably aren't.Let's face it, there is more substantial clue between Mariner and Tendi than with Jennifer.
>>126361838It's a super common trope. Trust me, I saw people having the exact same reactions 20 years ago over Jack and Sam in Stargate when they shacked up with other characters.
>>126361733Reminds me of /co/'s reaction to Korrasami. Throughout the entire season people were saying >wow Korra seems to have a crush on Asamiwhile others were screeching >don't be ridiculous shes going to end up with Mako, obviouslyAfter the finale the naysayers started in on the >it was an asspull nothing was set up, etcEven though people had pointed out over and over the little hints the show was dropping. As for Mariner x Jen it explains Mariner's seemingly unjustified hatred of Jennifer make a lot more sense. And all they did was apologize to each other.
>>126361844Again, you can't complain that there is nothing to back this ship, yet at the same time say that all the clue are here. It's one or the other, but make up your mind.
>>126361678>he's never spent time around the LGBT community>doesn't understand their madnesscurious that you would claim expertise on something you know nothing about.
>>126361834>You said...This is an anonymous board. You are talking to multiple people with different views.Jen has (andorian) flirted with Mariner on multiple occasionsMariner can't stop thinking about Jen's assThey're slamming their bits together and for some reason that makes you angry, which makes me laugh.Here, have an animation error.
>>126361834half the posts here are clearly people shitposting (like centaurworld anon who is apparently into Deltarune now) and while making fun of shippers getting btfo is very funny its hard to know who is really upset and who is just trying to make Marinler fags seethe.It was a good finale anyways so it ultimately doesnt matter
>>126361485No. Please. Come back.
Do you think Riker's reputation would get a little messed up by his mentee ending up on a California Class ship and then getting court marshaled for being a terrorist?
>>126361485No man, stick around, someone has to help me shitpost
>>126361825anon hetrosexuality is necessary for the survival of the species, states literally promote it and give people tax breaks or bonuses for having kids, society literally pushes everyone toward it, so of course its the dominant formThis doesn't somehow mean something is morally wrong with the other choices.
>>126361902Not when she was in line to command a capital ship and she's not guilty no
>>126361902This isn't the CCP. Nobody cares about their relationship.
>>126361932I wonder what ship she was going to get. I was pretty convinced she was going to end up on an Obena, though I guess we have no evidence its a capital ship
>>126361847Clues don't fucking matter. If they did, Mariner and Boimler would have kissed in the finale.>EP1: Mariner keeps thinking about Boimler and puts him in her holodeck programs>EP2: Mariner is upset when Jet tells her that Boimler is gone>EP3: Tendi says Mariner never dates anyone and only hangs out with Boimler>EP4: Mariner calls Boimler a "beautiful nerd">EP5: They realize they're miserable when separated, they call each other their "number ones", they leave a sign of their bond on the bar counter, and Freeman gives them her blessing. Not to mention that "Stranger in Paradise" cover playing in the background when Boimler starts missing Mariner.>EP6: Boimler makes sure to say goodbye to Mariner before leaving to hang out with the Redshirts>EP7: Mariner pulls some strings with Ransom so she can hang out with Boimler>EP8: Boimler and Jet are put front and center for Mariner in the holodeck scenario; she's grossed out by it, but she had a similar reaction when Ramsey asked her if she fucked Ransom
>>126361862>>wow Korra seems to have a crush on Asami>while others were screeching>>don't be ridiculous shes going to end up with Mako, obviouslyThe issue is not people seeing gay shipping. there has been people seeing this for less than that. the issue is people seeing a gay shipping, hating that there could be gay shipping and complaining about "no build up" when they aren't even there yet.It's it they make a well written development that lead to them getting together, then there is no issue, but people are complaining as if they were already scisoring each other, while at the same time crying that nothing justify it. it's schizophrenic to the stupidest degree.
>>126360229I'd imagine quite a few would have very close homosocial relationships while still nominally participating in the Pon Farr arranged marriange nonsense.
>>126361978They're just trying to find reasons to be upset so they can pretend its more substantial than them not liking their fav ship being ruined in their minds.>>126361971Some of these are very minor and the rest of them point to being good friends.
>>126361788the day of the roof comes for you.it will be a glorious day filled with much honor.
>>126361549Whales were discovered to actually be sentient. This actually has some basis IRL since they've discovered there are in fact whale "langauges" that vary to the point where they've ID'd "dialects" that are different depending on where in the world they come from.
>>126361871>This is an anonymous board.So you didn't post >>126361718?>Mariner can't stop thinking about Jen's assMariner has been drooling over Ramson, Boilmer and Rutherford too yet they are not romantically involved. she is bi, that she find her attractive is meaningless.>They're slamming their bits together and for some reason that makes you angry,It doesn't make me angry. what make me angry is people being angry that "they are together" when nothing of the sort is suggested and their scene is only about burrying the hatchet.If you want to imagine they are already banging about that, fine, but don't start complaining that their relationship come out of nowhere while at the same time assuming that they are banging when nothing of the sort is indicated.
>>126362012>Some of these are very minor and the rest of them point to being good friends.What this season has made clear is that these two can't live without each other. That's some good fucking build up, anon.
>>126362038> nothing of the sort is suggested and their scene is only about burrying the hatchet.I dunno anon, seemed pretty romantic to me.Are you sure you're not just homophobic?
>>126362063And if they ended up together that would be nice. But it's a stretch to say that Mariner calling him a beautiful nerd...along with Rutherford, Boimler saying goodbye to his friend or Mariner being grossed out by Jet and Boimler but not by Jennifer means they're in love. Those are shipper reasons, where every interaction is viewed with the foregone conclusion that they're in love, rather than the other way around.
>>126361927no one said anything about morality, anon.hetrosexuality is the biological norm. it always has been, across all species that reproduce sexually.to claim that "oh, well, ackshually..." or "we'll all be bi in the future" when bi sexuals have typically been under 1% of the population, if they've existed at all, is dumb and betrays a clear lack of understanding of science as well as an obvious fetish and agenda.
>>126362108>I dunno anon, seemed pretty romantic to me.There was more meaningful interaction between Mariner and Tendy than with Jennifer.
Dumb theory, Jennifer's parents are fans of 21st century sitcoms, to the extent of living in sitcom mecca, new york. Named her after one of their favourate characters.May or may not be producers of holovids.
>>126362012>Some of these are very minor and the rest of them point to being good friends.delusion, the post.cope and seethe harder.
LMAO shippers seething made this already good episode a 10/10 one.
>>126362135>But it's a stretch to say that Mariner calling him a beautiful nerdIt's clearly paralleling this scene. And in case you forgot, Mariner was totally wet for Ransom after this.
>>126362172>delusion, the post.Like said many times before, there has been more meaningful interaction between Tendi and Mariner than with Jennifer. there is no delusions.
>>126362145lol no one ever claimed, we will beI claimed we should be, very different claims, now do you have better reasoning than its always been this way because I can already tell your knowledge and understanding of history is lacking.
>>126362031i read somewhere that one of the problems whales have in captivity is they're often shoved into enclosures with whales from different areas, so they can't even talk to each other.it's like throwing an american, a chinese, and south african in a cell for twenty years.
>>126362177The cope is only just beginning.
>>126362145>hetrosexuality is the biological norm. it always has been, across all species that reproduce sexually.Not true at all, though. Numerous species practice homosexuality as part of their reproductive process. Humans in fact evolved to have children raised by gay uncles.
Cripplefag/Trek Luthor/Doomcock/Whatever reporting in to ruin your thr-Oh, I see you've done it to yourselves already.Well, my work here is done!
>>126361092That is pretty nice.
>>126362145>hetrosexuality is the biological norm. it always has been, across all species that reproduce sexually.Homosexuality has been observed among all mammals and play a role in social behaviors and relationships for many of them.
>>126362201This would have been better.
>>126362205Sounds like someone doesn't understand biology
>>126362246Biology from what century? Modern science agrees that homosexuality is the norm.
>>126362194>I claimed we should beah, i see. In your perfect world we would all be bi, because that's your fetish.By that logic, the world should be divided up into male masters and females slaves, like the Goreans, because that's their fetish and they believe the world would be better off with that sort of sexuality. Or perhaps we should go with the muslims, who believe women should be married by age nine?>now do you have better reasoning than its always been this way?if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If it is what is required for the species to continue, then it is good enough. Better to use what works, than to insist on a practice that wastes time, resources, and emotions on a pointless fetish that leads nowhere.>I can already tell your knowledge and understanding of history is lacking.it's clearly a better understanding than you have.
stop poking the chuds for laughs
>>126362205>>126362219>>126362261>homosexually it the norm! We swear!cope
>>126362195>Chinese and S. African whales can understand American whale perfectly>they just ignore him at all times because he's from Jersey
>>126361549They seemed pretty into Rutherford for some frolicking.
>all these posts lamenting the death of MarinlerIt's call a slow burn, you dipshits. They're both learning about who they are and what they mean to each other, and that shit takes time if you want an actual stable relationship that lasts. And honestly ask yourselves, would you still watch the show if the did finally hook up?
>>126362525Is Rutherford their BFFF?
>>126361643It's an even numbered Star Trek film, making it one of the better ones. Yeah the premise is kind of "stretch out a single TOS episode's plot into a feature length film" but it's fun to see Kirk and Spock interacting with modern day people.
>>126362525>>126362567Rutherford x Belugas confirmed!
So, I want to say Ma'ah and T'lyn will be instrumental in clearing Carol's name and join the Cerretos
>>126362527Stable relationships don't get viewers and sensible posts don't get (you)s.
>>126362601I want to say T'lyn will be instrumental in getting gangbanged by Mariner/Jennifer/Barnes/Castro/Tendi.
>>126362208You've already been here 60 or so replies ago
>>126362527>And honestly ask yourselves, would you still watch the show if the did finally hook up?honestly? yeah, i wouldsure, right now LD is doing the "willthey/won'tthey" thing which has been a staple of sitcoms for ages. However, there is the sticom about married couples which has been around forever.Think about it. if lower decks went all "I Love Lucy" but it was "I Love Mariner," not only would it be a wonderful shout out to the lady who actually made star trek possible in the first place, it would be just as funny and even better than all the ship teasing we have now.>"Mariner, you've got some splainin' to do!"
>>126362601They will both come on trial to help clear her name since the Klingon knows exactly what happened
I wonder if aliens with weird head anatomy like andoirans need to find specific helmets (which might suck in emergencies) or if the helmets are advanced enough to adapt to it's wearer's physiology. Sorry, just some fridge thoughts.
>>126362679I dont think the Trek universe has ultra advanced helmets, most likely they have to get helmets replicated for them specifically>>126362527the relationships have zero to do with whether or not I'd watch
>>126362659>DesiluSomebody's been listening to the podcast.
>>126362608>I love lucy ran for seven years>home improvement ran for nearly nine>the waltons ran for 9 years>family guy and american dad have been running for decades>the simpsons has been running for decades>the brady bunch ran for five yearsstable relationships have been popular since the start of tv.
so wait, is rutherford The Cleaner?
>>126362679I'd say for Andorians standard issue helmets probably have antenna holes pre-installed in the right spots. They just retract when not needed.For something like a Voth they'd probably be screwed or very uncomfortable at best. IIRC there was an episode of DS9 where some headgear made for cardassians was worn by a human and was painful to use.
>>126362730>forgetting the best sitcom with a married coupletho desu, maybe married with kids isnt a good example for how their dynamic could work
>>126362739He was on an entirely separate mission at basically the same time though
>>126362763i didn't forget it, i left it off because it wouldn't fit at all. at least not at this stage.besides, married with children would probably work better for Tendi and Rutherford>long suffering engineer who is still only a lieutenant. wife who plays up her sexuality now that she's gotten tired of being a good two shoes starfleet officer and embraced her orion heritage. a son who is more interested in girls and lifting than he is starfleet, and a daughter who happily uses her pheromones to get what she wants rather than hard work.
>>126362827yeah but they mistook tendi for it, could actually work story wise, especially since his implant carried him hard on automode
>>126362246Homosexuality doesn't mean infertility, your screen-cap fall apart from the first line. It seems we have a better understanding of biology than you do.
>>126362356It's a normal thing that happens, even if it isn't the main trend. Where is the lie?
>>126362760Yeah the visor of the jem'hadar shipHowever it was because of different eyesight rather than head shape
>"Cerritos Strong" Way to ruin a speech with redneck bullshit.
>>126362959It's a catchphrase from S1
>>126362959There is nothing intrinsically wrong with rednecks.
>>126363098Agreed. I feel like it's important for society to have *some* people in it who do not give a single fuck about safety hazards. Helps spur creativity.