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Will they get together in the finale?
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get close but drag it out, keeps things fun
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>>126348700
I think it would be really funny if they hinted and teased at it throughout the episode, suddenly stopped to focus on the greater plot, and then just fucking shoved it in right at the end. Just have Mariner suddenly fucking jump Boimler, like the kiss from the finale of El Tigre.
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>>126348124
They will
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>>126348996
So wait, you're saying any relationship that doesn't involve one or more trannies is bad?
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>>126348124
Earlier, but how much earlier is up for debate. They don't want to Moonlighting the show, after all.
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Parts of the interview with Mike McMahan on Branching Out to the LOWER DECKS of Vulcan and Klingon Ships for “wej Duj”:

>McMAHAN: Kathryn Lyn wrote it, and she’s so deep into it — literally, T’Lyn is the name of the Vulcan she has cosplayed as for years at conventions.

>McMAHAN: I mean, Enterprise scratched that itch a little bit, but I had just been thinking a ton about T’Pol and how much I loved Vulcans, and Spock of course. I had been trying for a while how to get T’Pol on Lower Decks, but the timeframe just doesn’t work, you know?

>“wej Duj” kind of ended up being like the kind of pitch I’d make to Paramount if they’d let me make a Star Trek movie. What I would want is like a Wrath of Khan-era movie that looks like it was produced in 1982, from the point of view of a Klingon ship – and the point of view of a Vulcan ship. That’s like my dream Star Trek movie.

>McMAHAN: It’s cool, right? And still, 800 episodes of Star Trek, there’s never been a single episode where it’s all Klingons who don’t talk to the Federation at all? Or one where it’s just a bunch of Vulcans flying around in their own ship? I honestly couldn’t believe we were the first ones to do it.

>There are a lot of people who are like, “Have her join the Cerritos!” — but listen, I have a story for T’Lyn figured out. Season 3 is written, and like, the first episode of Season 3, she’s not on the Cerritos, you know what I mean? But I have stories for T’Lyn that are coming. I love T’Lyn — and I love Ma’ah! My whole thing with Klingons is that I just love a Klingon that doesn’t backstab. A Klingon that’s like, the most honest in their motivations.

https://blog.trekcore.com/2021/10/interview-star-trek-lower-decks-mike-mcmahan-wej-duj-three-ships/
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>>126348996
CIS ships are delicious.
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>>126349226
I prefer Earth Alliance ships.
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>>126349188
>My whole thing with Klingons is that I just love a Klingon that doesn’t backstab. A Klingon that’s like, the most honest in their motivations.
This really is preferable. Roughly 2/3rds of Klingon plots involve backstabbing, avoiding backstabbing, or suspicion of backstabbing. It's annoying, I just want my honor whores. And maybe we can see how Klingons get on with other species outside of contact with the Federation. I want to see Ma'ah do a second contact mission.
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>>126349421
>Roughly 2/3rds of Klingon plots involve backstabbing, avoiding backstabbing, or suspicion of backstabbing.
Ezri was right
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>>126349513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfNe2uv-bHs
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How did Klingons even get past the nuclear age?
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>>126349665
Klingons have a weird development because aliens invaded Kronos and then Klingons stole their tech
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>>126349681
Okay, that actually makes sense.
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>>126349665
They weren't always as dumb warrior society as they are now, plus they got a boost from outside.
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>>126349402
fag
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>>126349665
The hyper emphasis on warrior culture is relatively recent (that is, well after they were spacefaring). There was an old Klingon lawyer on ENT who lamented it as a shift that had occurred during his lifetime, so no earlier than the 2100s.
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I just watched the first season, the show is a lot better than I thought it would be.
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You know what pisses me off? The new episodes go live for paramount+ americans on thursday but don't go live for me on amazon till friday, so I have to avoid the /co/ threads talking about the show for a whole day.
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>>126349750
Season 2 is even better, Anon.
First ep's like a mid-tier season 1 ep, but it's so much better afterwards.
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>>126349749
>1990s-2010s high-culture Klingons

might be a cool angle.
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>>126349897
Might make for an interesting "time travel fish out of water" episode.
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>>126348124
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>>126348996
>cis ships
anon, this is a Star Trek thread.
You want the Star Wars thread down the hall.
Please stop trying to derail threads by pushing for franchise wars.
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>>126350138
Somebody already made that joke.
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>>126349421
the funny thing is, during the TOS, klingons were the backstabbing, cunning, manipulative race and the Romulans were the proud, honorable warriors.
Then the movies came out and they switched the klingons to being the "honorable warrior race" and then TNG turned the romulans into the chronic backstabbers.
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>>126350151
the jokes will continue until the thread improves.
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>>126350112
I forgot this post got dubs
Blessed
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>>126350112
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>>126348124
Will the Cerritos eventually fill up with all the different races?
>Vulcan
>Klingon
>Romulan
>Ferengi
>Android
>Hologram
>Q race
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>>126350697
A q race and romulan woul be new territory
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>>126350697
Q isn't a race, it's a club.
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https://www.etonline.com/media/videos/heres-a-first-look-at-the-star-trek-lower-decks-season-2-finale-exclusive-173642?amp
>I know you hate me
>I don't even think of you at all
>pfft yeah right bet you think of me all the time with your stupid butt
Marinnfer confirmed, Beckett getting ICED next season
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>>126350739
how do I join? I want one of those dope flying chairs.
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>>126350697
>be omnipotent Q officer in Starfleet
>still have to work your way up the ranks from ensign
Meritocracy my ASS
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>>126349834
Lrn2torrent
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>>126350888
Gotta ascend, buddy.
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>>126350840
Shippers BTFO
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>>126350925
And let the Koala get me, in your dreams
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>>126350970
No chair for you then.
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>>126350970
WHY IS HE SMILING?!
WHAT DOES HE KNOW?!
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You think you see Q
But really it is hair of koala
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>>126350970
>>126351037
That scene legit unnerved me the first go around. It was so fucking drawn out. Every moment agony. I just wanted to hug Tendi afterwards. I wonder if his shoe ever reappears.
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>>126349681
But unlike the Kazon, they actually managed to understand the tech.
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>>126350891
His foreign degree is no good
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How about some background noise while you wait for this next's episode?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgpyUHUTCCk
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>>126348124
Nope
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>>126351123
what were these things called again?
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>>126351123
What's the closest race in Trek to these guys? Physical manifestation of an extra-dimensional life form.

>>126351656
Orz, from Star Control II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIbVYXHnaBU
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>>126351656
YOU ARE NOT ORZ
WE ARE ORZ
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Does the Terran Empire also have a beef against genetic engineering? Were their Eugenic Wars a bunch of anarchist genetic supermen who saw the folly of the Empire's philosophy and wanted to tear it down?
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>>126350970
You already know that the Koala is a Q or at the very least friends with them. Either that or he is above the Qs and friends with gene roddenberry himself
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It's up in Belize

>Mariner's dad shows up
>Freeman promoted to the Enterprise
>The rest of the cast moved to the USS Odyssey
>Ransom captain, Boimler first officer
>T'Lyn joins the Odyssey as a science ensign
>Ma'ah joins as a Klingon representative
>Episode ends with the Odyssey en route for DS9
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>>126352126
But who dies?
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>>126351768
They may consider natural evolution to be superior. Genetic engineering is pretty short term gains. Big gains, but in the long run you lose diversity and don't benefit from random mutations that do things like let us suddenly metabolize milk.
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>>126349188
>>There are a lot of people who are like, “Have her join the Cerritos!” — but listen, I have a story for T’Lyn figured out. Season 3 is written, and like, the first episode of Season 3, she’s not on the Cerritos, you know what I mean? But I have stories for T’Lyn that are coming. I love T’Lyn — and I love Ma’ah! My whole thing with Klingons is that I just love a Klingon that doesn’t backstab. A Klingon that’s like, the most honest in their motivations.
shame, they would have been great additions for the cast
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so... how much time left till the episode airs?
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>>126352335
TNGeezers
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>>126352126
Yeah, I don't buy it. You're just describing a lot of good things happening to these characters
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>>126352361
Evolution is the species adapting to change. Mods are superficial adaptations that may or may not be suitable.
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>>126352384
You also called me a lair when I said Riker was going to show up at the last finale and Boimler leaves with him
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>>126352384
As long as it btfo's the death in the family guys.
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>>126349681
That is the same excuse they used for how the below-room-temperature-IQ Kzinti got into space. It's a cheap way to make your proud warrior race a threat.
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>>126352450
So bored of seeing those retards desperately forcing that shit every thread
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>>126352430
I wasn't with that crowd, but if you told me ONE good thing happening to the characters I could believe it. If you tell me a bunch of good things happen to the characters without mentioning the conflict of the episode or any jokes, then I dont believe you.
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>>126351269
They're violent, not stupid.
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>>126352605
Boimler shows his taint uncensored
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>>126351721
Medusans maybe? Organians if you count their fake human forms.
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>>126352641
I thought medusians were less extra dimensional and more just... fucked.
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>>126352126
Link or fuck off my ship
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>>126348124
Bros I'm so hyped specially because I haven't been spoiled yet a (except for that I know ty'lin isn't coming to the Cerritos by this or next seasons 1st episode perhaps even the whole season)
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>>126348124
Anyone else a little bummed the season is ending? It's been a fun ride
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>>126352126
>>Freeman promoted to the Enterprise
Lmao. She's good, but not flagship material.
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>>126351211
The way she says "sorry I helped" at the end really hammered it home.
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>>126353038
>(except for that I know ty'lin isn't coming to the Cerritos by this or next seasons 1st episode perhaps even the whole season)
He specifically said the Cerritos because they're moving to a new ship tonight. The entire episode is set in a shipyard my dude.
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>>126353090
She'll be a lower deck crew in the Enterprise or Delta shift at best.
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>>126353080
When's the next season?
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>>126349052
These two will be a one off. Sooner or later, one is going to jump the other, and when one can no longer move from orgasm after orgasm, the one still standing will declare themselves "the winner" and that will be the end of it. ,
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>>126353209
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>>126348124
I want to see her in Raven's outfit.
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>>126352365
I think they will run into each other, just not working on the same ship.

I'm hoping she like hits on someone, probably rutherford, by hitting I mean something like "If circumstances allow I am interested in spending more time with you beyond our professional interactions" and nearby vulcans just eyebrowing hard at this thirsty behavior.
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>>126353481
>Discovery season 4
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>>126353194
But that's why it's full of shit. The Starfleet Command Heirachy doesn't work via tier: Commander on the Enterprise is still lower in rank then Captain on the Cerritos, even if the latter is far less prestigious. If she goes to the Enterprise as anything but a captain, she's getting busted down for some reason. We know she's going for admiral so no way she's taking any demotions, and no fucking way is she in the running to command the flagship.
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Since McMahan said he doesn't want Lower Decks to go passed 4 years (in canon) because then they reach the "dark era after the Mars attacks," after Lower Decks should he tackle the time between ENT and TOS, or the time between TOS and TNG?
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>>126353577
The first year of the Federation.
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>>126353577
There is another possiblity: Timeskip. We jump ahead years, see where all these idiots are, bring them back together because plot, and then watch them fail to avoid many of the same mistakes they witnessed as the new bridge crew while we get a new lower decks team.
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>>126353577
that...is a badly formatted timeline
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>>126353617
That or they make Picard and Discovery their own timelines.
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>>126353577
The easiest solution would be to not have each season line up with one year in-universe.
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so anyone gonna post a link when the episode is up somewhere other than paramount+?
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>>126353724
check rarbg
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>>126353481
Lower Decks has come out in August twice, I wouldnt be surprised if they stick with that just for the consistency.
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Why is McMahan so much better than Kurtzman?
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>>126351721
Orz come across as really horny
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>>126352126
Boimler would have to get several promotions to be first officer though.
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>>126353755
>rarbg
Not yet...keep waiting
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>>126352425
>implying normal evolution does suitable things
Much like war, evolution isn't about what's right, it's about what's left.
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What's the weirdest meta joke LD can make that will still makes sense?
I don't how to incorporate the joke that the makers of Enterprise wasn't exactly subtle with the credits gag about Jolene Blalock.
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>>126353946
I think they already did that by making Ransom actually call the 2260's the TOS era.
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Perhaps today is a good day to die.
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>>126353798
he gives us the comfy trek we've been craving for 20 years. Kurtzman gives us discount generic sci-fi
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>>126353798
That is pretty disingenuous. There wasn't any show to run following TAS and Gene was cut out of the films following TMP.
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>>126353798
Mmmmm, Bermanberry.
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>>126354075
Kurtzman's stuff feels like watching a b-movie with an absurdly high budget.
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>>126354119
When you phrase it like that it sounds kino
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Is already up?
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>>126354101
>That is pretty disingenuous.
Reddit hands typed this
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>>126353946
time travel episode back to the TMP era, bulges everywhere.
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>>126352126
So....No more Cerritos? damm I already love that girl, small but strong
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It's up.
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Holy fuck this guy was right


>>126352126
>>126352126
>>126352126
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>>126354432
rarbg not yet...keep waiting
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>>126354473
That was rarbg. Only 1 seed so far when I started but it's there.
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>mfw leakfag was right
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>>126350735
A lower decks for the Q Continuum could be comedy gold
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>>126354461
He neglected to mention Boimler dying
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It's early on Amazon?

Weird, I wasn't expecting this for another hour.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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mariner and jennifer
gaaaaaaaaaay
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>>126354740
i really shouldnt be here right now because of spoilers, but i just realised that...
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>>126349052
You were right.
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>cliffhanger

>probably another year until season 3
Nooo

>>126354766
I wonder if they'll go through with it. Seemed kind of a forced interaction. There's still also Jet as a potential love interest. Is Boimler still solid endgame to win the Marinerbowl?
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>>126354816
Meh, we already know the "cliffhanger" will be dealt with in S3E1 and we know Freeman isn't going to jail.
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>>126354859
I don't think so. The jailbreak will be episode two, like Boimler's return to the Cerritos was.
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>>126354922
That'd be even more annoying
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>cliffhanger
Boo
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link?
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He warned us
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>>126354766
don't andorians have four genders?
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>>126354981
Not in canon. Yet.
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Honestly thought this was for the Doopler incident at the admiralty ball at first.
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>>126354989
This is based very loosely on a line spoken by Data in TNG's "Data's Day," "in which he states that Andorians marry in groups of four,"
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>>126353671
If Lower Decks somehow makes it so that Picard and Discovery are non-canon, I take back everything about this show being Rick and Morty with Star Trek paint
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BASED AND WHALEPILLED
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WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
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>>126349226
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>>126355048
STD and PIC aren't canon anyway so you might as well take it back now.
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>>126355068
>PIC
ITS SPIC YOU SHILL
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MCMAHAN TREK

Star Trek: Lower Decks-LDS
Star Trek: Titan-TTN (Riker)
Star Trek: Phase II-PII (Enterprise Revival)
Star Trek: Excelsior-EXC (Sulu)
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It should have been Boimler saving Mariner.
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>>126355116
He was too busy saving the ship
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>be me
>to lazy to torrent because dont know how
>finale snt on kim or kisscartoon yet
>can hardly resist spoilers on this side
>already spoiled myself twice
this is torture
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>>126355141
Nothing to spoil really
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>>126355141
Good, cheapskate kid
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>>126355141
>download torrent software
>go to rarbg
>find epsiode
>click magnet
How you people not know how to do this?
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That was shit.
t. seething shipper
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>>126354766
>>126354797
Remember Andorians are naturally polygamous and generally always marry in groups of 4. The question is who is the fourth person in this love square?
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>>126355179
Not canon.
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>>126355182
peanut hamper
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I AM LITERALLY SHAKING RIGHT NOW
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Fuck this show, fuck Mike McMahan and FUCK JENNIFER
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God damn it was good. I hate cliffhangers but I loved every minute of this episode.

>>126355182
>>126355179
I was half convinced they were going to makeout right then and there.
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>>126355182
Jen's role in mating is to get DPed by the bara and twink then popping out a fetus that crawls into a milf's pouch to finish its gestation. So who do you think should fill each role?
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>>126355219
kek
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Canon is dead,
long live fanon.
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Holy shit Starfleet just cant stop shitting on Freeman
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>>126355314
all according to cake
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Are the dolphins something established in a previous Star Trek thing or something new for the LOLs?

The closest things I can think of are whales from Star Trek IV and the aquatic Xindi, neither of which really match this.
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>>126355336
If you don't know about cetacean ops why the fuck are you even watching a new Star Trek show
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>>126355336
It was a place that was always mentioned but never shown.

>>126355345
lots of new fans coming in through this show
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>>126355336
I bet you didn't even get the rubber duck reference.
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>Mike McMahan
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>>126355336
It was an injoke in TNG S03E15 about the shitty save the whales star trek film and how whales are secretly intelligent aliens.
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>>126355141
>type series/episode on google
>search "Past Hour" since when it usually gets released
>find it on a streaming site
>better quality and no watermark
It's not that hard, anon. And neither is torrenting, but I don't want to risk a warning letter since it's not my place.
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What ship is this?
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>I never wanna work with you again mom
wow that's a giant death flag
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What the fuck is going on with Rutherford?
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>>126354740
Based Anon
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>126355392
I guess it starts with S and ends with ectionthirtyone
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>>126355392
I want to believe it's related to section 31, Ramson is in it, this random flashback and now also the sudden arrest
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>>126355026
This could be fucking based
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And people thought Naked Time was filthy. Just look at this smut!
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>>126355381
>61x36
It appears to be a Helmacron vessel, captain!
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>>126355392
He cares for Tendi
Doesn't want to forget her again since he lost his memories/implant that time he almost fucking died
Season 3 might shed some more light on that "strange memory" he had after he deleted old Tendi memories to make room for new ones
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>>126354243
Shut up you Pakled

>>126354101
Giving Gene credit for anything after S2 or Berman credit at all is wrong. Michael Piller made TNG what it is.
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>>126355401
>>126355408
Never even occurred to me. It at least seems proper secret which is a good sign. I dont think Ransom is in it, though it would make sense someone else is on the ship watching him. Makes his borg fight in season 1 make more sense too, and Im guessing Section 31 is going to weaponize Badgey
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>>126355236
>I was half convinced they were going to makeout right then and there.
We don't desserve this much
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>>126355102
Stop
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>>126355336
Fucking newfag
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>>126355381
Probably a variant of a freighter despite your picture being a size for ants.
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>>126355413
You beat me, but my image is bigger.

They need to install a stripper pole in Spacedock for the ship to fly around.
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Between Mariner and every other DC hero it seems like bisexuals cant stop winning this year
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>>126355449
Of course, this is a capitalist society, and "buy" is right there in the word!
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>>126355182
We declare the Boimler´s harem OFICIALLY open
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He warned me and I didn't listen.
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>>126355413
MOOOOOODS
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>>126355457
I dont pay for any of this shit lol. I actually need to buy some Lower Decks merch to support the show since they deserve it
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So what are the /co/nsensus? This episode is better than the last one?
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>>126355486
No. I'm mad.
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>>126355179
Mmmmm they should kiss
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>Freeman's old friend Sonya Gomez
>Riker was her Cha'dich
why are they waiting to just outright say she was an Ensign on the Enterprise?
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>>126355486
It had some more engaging moments, but that's expected for a season finale. The last episode confirmed that the show is at its best when it doesn't focus on the main characters.
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>>126355486
No, last one was a 10/10, this maybe a 7/10 and end in a cliffhager
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>>126355486
This episode should had been a 2 part
Ends with a "cliffhanger"
3rd best episode this season
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Ransom was a nude model but they drew hip with pants on anyway.
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>>126355435
>Rutherford was the secret black ops badass all along
Though I'm half expecting a fake out.

>>126355472
The only thing that irritates me is that we're not going get Mariner and Jen sniping at each other like in the greentexts.
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I have the real good stuff right here.
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>>126355486
It was a slower buildup, but while seeing the other races last week was great, actually seeing the Cerritos crew come together and pull off an amazing plan to save the day was kino. Definitely the best of the season, but its close
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>>126355499
As one Anon wrotte, 90% of all captains served in only four ships, that is why everyone hate Mariner.
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Regardless of whether you're a shipper or not, this should have been a Mariner and Boimler moment.
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Will Rutherford finally get some nice characterization after all this time?
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>>126355509
Oh there will be plenty of that going around, Mariner loves to play hard to get.
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>>126355504
So fucking based
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>>126355504
>be member of species known for animalistic and sexual females
>draws a nude model with not only pants, but shoes too
Tendi is pure, PURE! Also has a fondness for bara titties.
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>>126355504
I love seeing the art styles fictional characters have
>that bulge
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>>126355526
lesbians win again?
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>>126355509
>The only thing that irritates me is that we're not going get Mariner and Jen sniping at each other like in the greentexts.
Maybe both would open, being BFF, and then figth for Boimler >>126355182 in that case the figth would be fucking epic
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>>126355526
Disagree, because Boimler got his own moment.
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Hey, watch out for the slur, there. Look like those Belugas missed out on several sensitivity training.
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>>126355504
For Tendi...Randsom D must be really small, Orion´s standards must be really huge
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>>126355547
A male character's worth is determined by the quality and amount of females in his harem
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>>126355526
They were going for a completely different emotional reaction. Also I'm surprised the bothered to draw the antenna slots on Jen's helmet for this shot.
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>>126355511
At least one of the gang is getting screwed!
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>>126355526
He was busy.
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>>126355526
Nope, Ramson would be a better choice...
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>>126355550
The fact that the whales are total horndogs for Rutherford completely recontextualizes Barnes invitation at the beginning of the season.
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>>126355570
Agreed. Anyone would have been a better choice.
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>>126355550
ESL what is the meaning of calves here?
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>this opens up Boimler to be shipped with someone else
Were the BoimlerxT'lyn fags right all along?
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>>126355556
then how come harem anime have the worst protagonists?
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>>126355586
Calves are infant whales.
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>>126355588
I feel that it is the most logical pairing
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>>126355584
>Fuck off! I believe we are already friends!! Fuck you Mariner, I hope the vulcan girl fuck your BF hard
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Prodigy better be fucking good. It at least saved Discovery from having to follow up on this kino
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>>126352126
You cheeky one...
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>>126355588
Boimler x T'Ana
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>>126355586
baby whales and dolphins are called 'calves'
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>>126355588
Boimler with vulcan Mariner
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>>126355596
Thanks Anon, google translate "calves" as "thighs"
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>all the Pakled's are finally dead
based Freeman she will get the promo for sure this time

jokes aside wtf is that cliffhanger, how could anyone reasonable think she was behind something like that?

The Klingons were the ones supplying weapons, this exact type of bomb in fact, this sounds more like Klingons covering up, that or Pakled's literally accidently destroyed their own planet
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This is the worst timeline. I'm done.
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>Mariner and Rutherford did black ops stuff and Rutherford got the implant to suppress the memories
>finds out Mariner knew all along
>the bartender was right
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>>126355609
Boimler / T'Pol
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>>126355625
>that or Pakled's literally accidently destroyed their own planet
If I can recall properly Pakleds don't have a planet, they are just like a migrant frotilla
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Soooooooo what was Tilly-- I mean Tendi's promotion? She's a scientist now?
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>>126355048
After this episode, you should anyway.

Also, it's Discovery's time travel shenanigans who will make all the previous season of Disco and Picard part of an alt-timeline.
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>>126355632
>the bartender was right
The paranoia guy was rigth all along
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>>126355636
McMahan wants to bring back T'Pol but she'd be too old by now >>126349188

Make her his Edith Keeler
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>>126355639
what? anon she went there to negotiate earlier in the season

if there isn't a pakled homeworld what is she being accused of destroying?
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Last shirt
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>>126355650
What about the other Bartender who wants Billups' Bad Dragon?
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>>126355625
My guess is the Klingon high council decided to blame her. They have a long history of being corrupt biHnuch.
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>>126354952
>>126355609
Going back to the very first episode, the time she became a giant praying mantis and recent developments makes me think that this is the plan all along. 5he writers are going to pull a "actually you shouldn't ship the main characters" even though at this point it will be a cliche not to do it. Anyway they want Mariner with Jennifer, and Boimler with Tendi or nothing at all because they don't want that
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>>126355336
Those are belugas.
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>>126355663
>anon she went there to negotiate earlier in the season
Agree, but Picard meet them as a flotilla, they don´t know how to fix their ship, they don't own a planet then.
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>>126355667
I'd actually get this one
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>>126355639
Your confusing them for the species like the Kazon or Hirogen in VOY. Pakleds in the original TNG never mentioned them being nomadic, they were mostly depicted as thieves or scavengers.
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>>126355625
What if Starfleet is covering it up and using Freeman as a scapegoat?
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>>126355360
Not him, but I didn't. Not too familiar with the TOS and first set of movies. and it has been 20 years since I watched TNG. I don't think I even saw all of the Voyagers episodes. What is it about?
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>>126355695
they like to hide silly things on ship MSD's and a major one is adding a rubber ducky to them, with the implication that there's a giant one on the ship
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>>126355362
He is great, isn't he?
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>>126355692
Nah McMahan already said he doesn't want to do the "evil Starfleet" stuff Picard is doing.
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>>126355381
A SHIP FOR SPACE-ANTS!
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>>126355692
>>126355708
I don't know he already lie to us twice, and almost all Almirants are fucking corrupt
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once again Billups is based
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>>126355675
>praying mantis
She was a scorpion, dude. But if they have Boimler get with Tendi and Mariner with Jenny they're obviously going to break them up later. It's the classic switch up to keep the fans on their toes until the end. Not my favorite thing to happen but to be expected.
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>>126355408
>Ramson is in it
What? They were just shadowy people.
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>>126355720
He is based beyond scale not even Boimler are that based
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>>126355692
>>126355672
possible but seems like a stretch that the Federation wouldn't only just look the other way about Klingon genocide but that they would agree to blame it on one of their own for it

Frankly if it actually was the Klingons what is the issue? Pakleds were attacking Klingon allies, thus justifying them as a target, sure Federation would throw a fit about the genocide part especially knowing a klingon started all this but this doesn't sound like something that would require a mass cover up that involves destroying a captain's life

Idk maybe its Section 31 stuff and we will end up getting answers thanks to Rutherford, gotta say that small flashback has me way more interested in him
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>>126355499
Speaking of Gomez, those line reads were... OOF... not good.
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>>126355727
this is actual cope and I say that as a Marinler enjoyer.
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>>126355486
3 best of the season, not as good as the last episode of season 1
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>>126355742
Yeah she wasnt the best, not everyone can be a Frakes. I still hope we get more of her though.
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>>126355719
When did he lie?
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>>126355558
If there's been one thing that's won people over about the show, it's that reaction; after suffering STD and PIC's wanton trashing of and disregard for lore, a show that consistently and correctly references it and maintains visual continuity within itself is much appreciated.
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>>126355742
>>126355761
Bringing her back at all was pure unadulterated cringe
It was never a good idea
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>>126355625
>Pakled's literally accidently destroyed their own planet
To the casual observer, the Pakleds appeared to be intellectually challenged, especially in their verbal skills. However, despite the apparent lack of intellect, they proved to be far more cunning than they appeared, and used their innocuous appearance to deceive other races. (TNG: "Samaritan Snare")
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>>126355766
His pissy because Mike said there'd be more Titan, which was technically true.
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>>126355782
That was retconned in The Spy Humongous.
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>>126350840
>Mariner thinks about Jen's butt
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>>126355413
It's perversions like this that give the show a bad rep.

But I would be lying if I was saying I don't appreciate it.
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>>126355787
Nah, go to the koala, Bradward
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>>126355738
>Frankly if it actually was the Klingons what is the issue? Pakleds were attacking Klingon allies, thus justifying them as a target, sure Federation would throw a fit about the genocide part
>this doesn't sound like something that would require a mass cover up that involves destroying a captain's life
To be clear I'm not saying the Federation is involved, per se. The Klingon extremists could've forced the council's hand in some way (like Duras), and the Federation just believes the Klingons have proof. One running theme we've seen a lot of is that the Starfleet is practically oblivious to a lot of the shit going on, so it stands to reason they could be misled about the Cerritos and Freeman's involvement with the Pakleds. Suddenly the Pakled homeworld is destroyed and the Klingons show up with "proof" that Freeman was involved. So the Federation brings the hammer down because they don't know any better.
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>>126355766
Boimler will never return to the Cerritos, the promotion is final
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>everyone including Mariner thinks Jen is trustworthy now
>no one suspects that it was actually her who tipped off Star Fleet security about Captain Freeman
>now that Captain Freeman is gone getting Mariner fired should be easy
and to think Mariner is completely fool by something as simple as an extended hand and a few nice words, she's such a child
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>>126355745
I've seen it happen before. But I'm not a one ship guy, anyway.
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Did I memory hole the time Mariner spent with that blue chick this season? Did they become rivals or frenemies at one point? All I recall is that she was in that brown-noser club.
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>>126355794
Who does not?
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>>126355834
No, this had literally zero build-up.
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>>126355813
But that's true. The Boimler we have is Clone Boimler. The real Boimler is on the Titan.
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>>126355816
Shut up Mariner!
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>>126355848
The clone is on the Titan.
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>>126355840
Yup. This episode was okay but mostly fell flat for me.
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>>126355782
to say they appear challenged is wrong, they clearly are rather dumb comparatively

they absolutely do use that to their advantage, but they aren't acting dumb and are actually really smart, they just use the fact that people underestimate them, its a pretty simple tactic

but yes they really are dumb enough to destroy their homeworld, I mean humans are way smarter and we are still busy destroying ours
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>>126355834
It was one sided
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>>126355742
>>126355761
>>126355774
I didn't mind it. She was okay IMO.
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>>126355499
>Naff also appeared briefly in Total Recall as the three-breasted mutant on Mars, as well as a prostitute in the original Lethal Weapon movie.
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>>126355486
I put it on the same level than episode 9, but for different reasons.

Episode 9 introduced new interesting and enjoyable characters.
Episode 10worked with already established characters and did a great job with it.
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>>126355794
>Who does she think she is, with that taut, perky, yoga-toned ass of hers? What, does she think I'm going to be jealous just because she could crush a brick of latinum between those cheeks? Great, now I'm wondering what color an Andorian asshole is. Darker blue? Green? Fuck you, Jen, I have more important things I need to be thinking about.
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>>126355864
>I mean humans are way smarter and we are still busy destroying ours
Remember how the Feregi value humans, despite supposed human superiority, the Feregi never experienced slavery, genocide, or discrimination. Also they look in horror at what we do to Earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPBzj90Su8A
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>>126355858
That's what they want you to think.
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>>126354740
Based
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>>126348124

Yes, and she will make the same mistake her mother did and maintain her career while raising the child on a starship.
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>>126355834
Mariner's antipathy towards Jen has cropped up about three times over two seasons, it's something that probably should have had more lead in if for no other reason than a casual watcher wouldn't pick up on it.
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>>126355950
So she is the Boimler of Sonya Gomez?
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>>126355787
Fucking trash. Mariner belongs to Jennifer.
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>>126355960
No, she's the Sonya Gomez of Sonya Gomez.
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>>126355812
meh, it kind of seems like we are bending over to make the Klingon High Council still corrupt, which isn't surprising but not everything can be Duras tier

Between Gowron, who purged corrupted elements associated with Duras and didn't much suffer fool, I think its reasonable to think that during the Dominion War he was able to purge anyone he wanted, although certainly he had his own corrupt councilors

but of course Martok would have presumably purged any elements he saw as part of Gowron's corruption

So like who are these Klingon lords that have enough power to do this shady shit that the chancellor and the emperor would definitely not approve of?
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>>126355960
She's the Sonya Gomez of Sonya Gomez.
>>126355967
Damn it! Beat me to it.
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>>126349402

For all the specs they are the biggest jobbers ships in the series, swear to god. I mean, technically Shadow vessels get blasted a lot but the EarthGov ships are the only ones that catch fire and give out a fucking death dirge.
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>>126355923
>Feregi never experienced slavery, genocide, or discrimination
That was DS9 preachiness at it's worst, and total bullshit, especially since we were supposed to take it at face value and not as Quark being Quark. We saw multiple working arrangements that were clear debt bondage at best, Quark has a weapons dealing episode where if he didn't sabotage it he was going to help murder tens of millions of people, and they discriminate all the fucking time, not least against their own women. A planet of capitalists, forgoing half the population for fashion sales at a minimum.

I put in the same category as transwarp salamanders.
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>>126355920
Great now I can only think that Vulcans asshole must be green
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>>126355586
>>126355612
>>126355596
>>126355622
Calves are also the denomination for the lower legs, a word cetaceans would use to designate bipedal people.

Now, the question remain, where those belugas implying the team was rather young, or is it a patronizing slang to designate humanoid beings?
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>>126355923
yeah I find it hard to believe that Feregi never practiced slavery, maybe not Feregi on Feregi slavery but what no Feregi ever sold another person? no way

Feregi not having massive wars does make sense though
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>>126355994
Copper blood, all the red parts are green.
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>>126356010
Only because they're too flagrantly backstabbing to develop large nation-states or coalitions.
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>>126356006
didn't thought of it that way (assumed they were saying "it's for kids")
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>>126351123
>This *Camp* has so many *happycampers*! Orz is so *squishy* he wants to tell them all *hello* and have so much *dancing*!
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>>126356010
they probably didn't have war that we would recognize as such.
individual ferengi doing secret deals to drive out a mutual competitor might count as war for them or even outright company wars.
also didn't they consider female ferengi as non-persons?
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>>126355336
see pic related.

Also TOS movie, the one with the whales.
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>>126351269

I admit I laughed at the Lazon Joke with Tom Paris
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>>126355663
It might be an important Pakled colony.
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>>126355923
>the Feregi never experienced slavery, genocide, or discrimination
As a hyper capitalist society I don't buy it
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>>126356078
It's the same reason they gave women rights in DS9; the more consoomers the better.
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>>126356090
The were discriminating against women up until DS9 though. That's a pretty huge chunk of their history
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>>126355813
That's not even what he actually said.
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>>126356062
I also find it funny that they specifically have escape pods JUST for the whales/dolphins.
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>>126356078
cope harder hugh-man
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>>126356090
ancient ferengi males probably did realize it (more consumers) but they also realize they're adding the number of business rivals.
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>>126356090
>It's the same reason they gave women rights in DS9
It's the same reason they gave black, women, alpahbet people rights IRL
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>>126356058
yeah exactly, so no atomic bombs which is good but no war is probably splitting hairs about what counts as real war.

also female ferengi were not given full rights but they weren't exactly slave, at least not in the sense of sellable transferable property, its more just like ferengi were hyper patriarchal with women expected to remain secluded at home. Women working, buying, shopping or doing any other economic activity was literally forbidden.
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>>126356120
Exactly
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>>126355989
>I put in the same category as transwarp salamanders.
Or you could simply put it to Quark deluding himself a bit. Unreliable narrator and all.
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>>126356109
What the fuck was what, the lens flare?
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>his blowhole is broken
which one were they talking about? i mean their healthtips were also "Splash him with water!"
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>>126356078
It's important to remember that Ferengi aren't "hyper capitalist" in the sense that rationally pursue their self interest no matter what. They are a theocracy whose religion happens to sacralise profiteering, now that religion also stipulated that females were non-persons effectively owned by their families too. They are basically space Saudi Arabia with cut-throat merchant flavouring.
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>>126355632
>>Mariner and Rutherford did black ops stuff
Grey ops, actually.
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Why?!
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>>126356151
>They are basically space Saudi Arabia
Yeah so that still makes the claim they never had wars or discrimination sketchy
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>>126356149
They're just using their terms for Boimler's issues. Like, an insectoid crewmate might suffocate because they respirate through their exoskeleton, but a human would still think of that as not breathing, because that's what humans do.
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>>126351123
>>126351721
>>126351748
>>126353827
>>126356053
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>>126356149
>which one were they talking about?
His mouth/nose.

> i mean their healthtips were also "Splash him with water!"
Both of these are a joke about how the whales were basically applying whale anatomy to humans. They breathe from their blowholes, and need to be kept wet at all times or else their skin will dry out.
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>>126356158
Because the balding redhead didn't deserve to dance.
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>>126355834
>suspects that it was actually her who tipped
It's implied her issues with her predate season 1.
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>>126348124
Anywhere it's streaming for free, yet? Besides P+.
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>>126356123
pregnancy is treated as a transaction right? they don't get the money directly (the mother's father gets the money) but that counts as payment for service right?
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>>126356196
im just saying, whales have their blowhole on their back
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>>126350891
>>126350697
As much as I would love to see a Q permanently work for Starfleet, the Continuum wouldn't allow it.
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Marinler, bros..
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Best girl Jennifer is fucking based and redpilled, I member this based scene
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>>126356109
The sudden use of Jennifer i presume. Maybe she'll go the way of the jet
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>>126355055

Are they whale aliens or legitimate Earth porpoises?
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>>126356140
The last line of that speech is delivered smug as fuck, so it's entirely probably the intent was that he had a point but not a very good one in context.

>>126356158
Only if we get a b-plot about the quartet entering the later ballroom dancing competition complete with an 80s style montage except it's set to a classical waltz.
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>>126356151
>in the sense that rationally pursue their self interest no matter what. They are a theocracy whose religion happens to sacralise profiteering, now that religion also stipulated that females were non-persons effectively owned by their families too
So...like Alabama?
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>>126355767
I liked it when the security chief stated the obvious solution and got garbled replies, since they couldn't just warp or it wouldn't be fun.
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>>126356158
It's still too difficult to process for most.
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>>126356254
I'm surprised they didn't tractor all/most of the panels into a pile for later collection.
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>>126355967
>>126355979
Wait...nope, I check the episode, look at their simbols in their neck, the image she is not Sonya Gomez is their Ensign...wait, I get it
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>>126356214
The child has to pay their parents back for renting their mother's womb, yes.
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>>126355413
>>126355448
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>>126356287
does that mean I could pay to rent my mom's womb later, like when I wanna cum inside it?
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>>126356234
What is Syndicate, Obsidian Order, Risa, Terran, Odyssey, Klingon, Deep Space 11, timeship and Andromeda? I do'nt know any of those show. You didn't even include any of the TNG movies.
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>>126356234

Where would you put enterprise or prodigy?
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>>126356296
It would have to be mutually agreed upon contract.

With your dad.
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>>126356268
Picard 8? Discovery 5? Stop being a hack, the fisrt episode of STD is not even a 3 and Picard is a 5 at their best.
Fuck, to be fair I hate the pilot of LD, gladly they fix almost everything, LD is the best ST in 25 years...not a fucking joke, I am want to watch the next season, so I must wait to neck myself, I really don't care to watch more Picard or STD. Fuck them.
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>>126356246
No, that'd be college football.
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>>126356310
Those aren't shows yet.
TNG movies are awful.

>>126356315
Beta Canon with Discovery and Picard.
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>>126356296
I guarantee ya that casual sex with your mother isn't considered bad.
Perhaps that's why the couldn't own money before they knew their kids will only spend it on them
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>>126356317
except when my dad dies I would own my mother and her womb and not have to pay rent at all
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>>126356233
>Andoran
>Not thinking of everyone and hating everyone all the time

That's bullshit, she's a spy and an imposter!
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>>126356315
>prodigy
We have nothing but hopes and fears for Prodigy, wait until it comes out.
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>>126356292
I never get why burgers need cream to fap...
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>>126356331
So you think, but I'll bet your brothers would con you into a time share agreement.
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>>126356341
The Jews took most of our foreskin.
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>>126356341
Circumcision.
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>>126356310
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_(TV_series)
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>>126356234
Dude, autofellate in the privacy of your own home.
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>>126356341
Circumcised
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>>126356323
>Those aren't shows yet.
Do you come from the future? Your timeline seems to be about show you enjoy to be in the continuity, so have you watched them yet?

Also, First contact was good.
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>>126356332
>That's bullshit, she's a spy and an imposter!
This only could work if Mariner and Jen become BFF and Jen get laid with Boimler. Then like a true andorian back stab both.
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>>126356344
depends, how many sisters does the family also have to take care of?
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>>126356345
>>126356346
>>126356352
Wait...really? That is why you need so much lube to fuck? I believe it was just a weird thing about burgers, "I guess natural fluids can't made them confortable, so they use the american way to use even more".
Sorry for your foreskin burgers frens
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What is each Star Trek about?

TOS- Heroism, action
TAS- Heroism, action
TNG- Social science fiction
DS9- Characters, politics
VOY- Science fiction
ENT- Heroism, feel good
DSC- Heroism, action, feelings
PCD- Action, feelings
LD- Comedy, characters
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>>126356168
Quark was probably judging things very narrowly, he was comparing Ferengi to Humans so he was probably only counting things like total wars between nation-states and discrimination between races within the same species. Ferengi hold basically every other species in contempt so whatever they do to other species doesn't count for them.

>"A contract is a contract is a contract... but only between Ferengi"
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>>126356375
LD - All of them
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>>126356358
Probably zero or one. I'll bet Ferengar has the same issue as India and China today but more extreme, when a patriarchal society has access to basic medical imaging, female fetuses better watch out.
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>>126356254
So what is the Intrepid-looking one supposed to be? The far background one looks like an Antares-type.
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>>126356374
They don't actually need fluid to fuck, as vaginas often lube themselves, but to masturbate, yes
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>>126356353
First Contact was action shlock.
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>>126356374
Maybe this also explains why everyone needs tissues. I always just licked it off, but I wouldn't want to do that if lotion was on my hand too.
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>>126356378
except that the sayings don't stop there

saying that "a Ferengi without profit is no Ferengi at all" so the rules of acquisition actually justify breaking a contract with anyone if it becomes unprofitable
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>>126356378
>so he was probably only counting things like total wars between nation-states and discrimination between races within the same species
Again, I genuinely don't believe that this shit didn't happen before the Ferengi were a space faring species. It is too far for my suspension of belief to allow
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honestly dont know what to think about the jennifer situation, i mean prior to this episode mariner really didnt show any signs of liking her
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>>126356399
and good.
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So I take it the "don't talk about other Star Treks" janny is gone?
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>Mariner is a dyke
Bravo McMahan
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>>126356378
>no Quark lecture on the history of cryptocurrency and NFTs
wonder how that would play out
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>>126356036
They are. Captain Picard Day was for the kids on the Enterprise. That's the joke.
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>>126356397
Precum is also meant to be a lubricant, though I've long suspected it's somewhat vestigial and female lubrication won out, since it's usually barely enough for the head.
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>>126356402
The Ferengi have been unified under their mercantile theocracy for basically their entire history as a civilisation, it's actually not that hard to accept.
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>>126356405
She is the traitor...she just want to be cover with Mariner and their friends
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>>126356400
>I always just licked it off
Gross.

Then again, who am I to judge I usually do it in my pant (with underwear also on) with the zipper closed, and let it dry afterward.
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>>126356407
[REEEEEEEEEEEE]
Don't talk about the devil
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>>126356420
>a theocracy lasting centuries without splinter factions forming
>with fucking hyper profit motive thrown into the mix
Nah, it's way too far fetched
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>>126356425
People can smell that, man.
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>>126356405
Felt like studio interference. This should have been a Mariner and Boimler scene. Because you know, the season was all about her learning to trust him and acknowledging his growth?
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>>126356078
No, they just have indentured servitude.
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>>126355642
Yes, the real blue shirt
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>>126356436
Can you elaborate about the military–industrial complex, all latinamerican elites, or the Rotchilds?
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>>126356441
For that to happen, that would require me to interact with people in the first place.
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>>126356405
Hate, yes. like, no.
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>>126356418
Precum functions to provide a more hospitable environment for sperm to travel through.
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Why does everyone act like it's the NUMBER of Star Treks coming out that's the problem?

In 1996 there were
>26 episodes of Deep Space Nine
>26 episodes of Voyager
>1 movie (First Contact)
>TOTAL: 53

In 2020 there were
>12 episodes of Discovery
>10 episodes of Picard
>10 episodes of Lower Decks
>1 Short Trek (Children of Mars)
>TOTAL: 33
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>>126356441
Use 100% cotton underwear and you will be cover Anon. Never try this with nylon or any other artificial fabric.
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>>126356454
What does any of that have to do with what I'm talking about
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>>126356467
>farfetched
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>>126356436
so evangelicals?
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>>126356444
could also be that it was done to underline mariners bisexuality since they wanted to show that and for some reason thought her going on about her types wasnt enough or would be seen as lipservice
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>>126356444
We need to make space for vulcan Mariner and Boimler
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>>126356457
Is Kurtzman to blame for this?
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>>126356471
Ah yes, evangelicals, famous for not discriminating or pushing for war
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>>126356473
You can do that without wasting a powerful moment. The whole season was building up to this. The thing about Mariner sabotaging Boimler remains unresolved.
I'm baffled.
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>>126356462
To be fair 90s Star Trek was good, nu Star Trek almost destroy the franchise, LD is a gladly surprise. I member how /CO/ hated the pilot.
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>>126356436
Their profiteering was always directed outward, they were in contact with other species since before their civilisation emerged. They evolved as a prey species and their planet was taken over by another species just as their civilisation was getting off the ground, they survived by acting as commercial middlemen for their masters and they took control of their technology when a war with another species forced their overlords to leave Ferenginar.
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>>126356485
Yeah but people say it's the number that's the problem
Oh and black women for some reason
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>>126356412
I think he would laugh at them as a stupid human idea, that relies too much on others valuing it and not enough on the material basis of wealth

Ferengi like physical assets, they don't want their value to be in digital credit records that could disappear or wouldn't functionally transfer if they tried to set up business in a frontier
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>>126356488
So they literally didn't have the chance to fuck themselves over like humans have
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Did McMahan even watch this episode?
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>>126356478
>pushing for war
The rabbit hole is really weird...somehow they want Israel destroy all middle east, beause is a requisite for the Parousia. These guys can be dangerous and really nice at the same time.
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>>126356482
hell even tumblr so far seems to thing it was kinda wasted, or maybe its some of you guys posting there
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Nice corridor reuse. Delta shift is back. That one hot ensign Stevens was hitting on, too.
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>>126355840
so they pulled a legend of korra?
or is it that they're just friends now, and the gays are spilling their spaghetti in a rush to insist that "lgbt+ is the end result of every relationship or else!" shit again?
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>>126356490
Quark loses it when he learns how these things crashed a country
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>>126356391
Probably an upgraded Antares.
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>>126356515
>and the gays are spilling their spaghetti in a rush to insist that "lgbt+ is the end result of every relationship or else!" shit again?
It's more retards who pearl clutch about everything nowadays
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>shippers this intensely buttmad that Mariner made a new friend
You guys are dumb
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>>126356489
>Oh and black women for some reason
STD MC is fucking insufreable, it was made to fullfil the current agenda..absolute shit.
I was affraid Mariner follow that logic, in the pilot episode she was almost the same shit, but they correct the way and now she is a good character. I can´t imagine the same in STD.
Picard is a shame...I hope Q fix it.
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>>126356482
>The whole season was building up to this.
Not really? the season was more about Mariner and her mother's relationship and about Mariner's tendencies to kep people away from her, not just about Boilmer.
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>>126356515
>so they pulled a legend of korra?
azami and korra's friendship growing into something else was telegraphed a mile away.
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>>126356507
I hang out with people from Tumblr. They didn't like it, but they're all Marinler shippers so..
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>>126355923
they literally kept their women naked, unemployed, and unable to own businesses or make profit until the days of DS9.
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>>126356514
I fucking hate Delta shift, they believe they are better than us, just for their large aisle. Fuck them
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>>126356489
They tried to say that about about Star Wars, too, after Solo flopped. While elements of the production team can certainly burn out - there's a whole story about how there was supposed to be a year break between Voyager and Enterprise that got vetoed by the network, which is a big part of why the first two seasons were mostly trash - as a whole, a franchise can sustain as much content as can be made decently. You just need competent people to split the work between.
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>>126356523
>made a new friend
Cope.
>>126356528
Mariner really is Korra, huh.
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>>126356539
>Cope.
I mean, if she ends up fucking Jen I'm all for that too
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>>126356515
>so they pulled a legend of korra?
No. they estalished an animosity between the two as a running gag and at the end of the season, they learn to not hate each other and even maybe become friends. There is no romantic relationship between the two. It's just the shippers pushing things out of proportions like they often do.
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Mariner needs a gal pal desu
It's pretty clear that her and Tendi don't like each other that much
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>>126356518
not really, economic crashes are pretty standard and I'm sure Ferenginar had plenty of its own

No way there weren't Ferengi that foolishly over valued things thinking they could resell them higher, and end up turning themselves into a functional pyramid scheme until it eventually collapses

obviously you wanna try to avoid this, but they wouldn't stop stuff like that from happening, they would just ask themselves how to profit the most individually on the bubble
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>>126356538
Enterprise was shit because they got awful actors and they made their ship interior ugly and unappealing.
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>>126356109
It was Lower Decks resolving the interpersonal issues that aren't really supposed to be in Star Trek and only exist in Mariner as a character flaw.

Jen was never a bitch, Mariner is.
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>>126356525
>I can´t imagine the same in STD.
I made the mistake of thinking that would happen in season 3, that they figured it out and would give her more effective characterization. But nope, they doubled down. They so massively missed the point that she went from demotion to captain in 5 episodes.
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>>126356565
It still should have been a moment between Mariner and Boimler. Her sabotaging him was never addressed.
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>>126356535
>they literally kept their women naked, unemployed, and unable to own businesses or make profit until the days of DS9.
I thought you were trying to hurt the Feregi but now you make them seem like the most based in the universe
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>>126356345
If by "Jews" you mean "your parents".
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>>126356564
>they made their ship interior ugly and unappealing.
How can someone still have such a trash take? Did they freeze you in 2001? Do you know about 9/11?
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>>126356515
>Mariner hates Jen for no reason
>its really more about her rebelling against Star Fleet's rule against interpersonal conflicts than an actual interpersonal conflict
>Mariner learns to stop being a bitch who needs to act tough and defy the rules

omg is this surprise lesbians? everyone boycott the show now.

god homophobes are retarded
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>>126356410
Christ you people are savages. Not every interpersonal relationship between people is a binary choice between hate and fucking.
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>>126356572
If it was nonstop fucking at home that'd be one thing, but they all seem to be family units that hate each other too much for incest, not "sure Dave, bring my nephew and we'll make her airtight!"
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>>126356564
isn't that kinda the point? Enterprise as a ship is still pretty new as a spacefaring vessel with the later models (from the in-universe timeline perspective, not ours) improving from lessons learned?
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>All these people missing the fact the Cerritos isn't 4 Ensigns and the Senior Staff, it's an entire crew and they're all deserving of their moment in the spotlight
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>>126356596
True, some are hatefucking.
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>>126356593
>>126356596
You're in denial.
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The worst part of each 21st Century Trek as well as the best part

>ENT
Worst: Bad actors.
Best: A cool premise for a show with an unwelcoming yet familiar setting.

>11-13
Worst: Most of it was completely uninspired action schlock.
Best: Beyond was fun.

>DSC
Worst: Awful main characters.
Best: Somehow Nu-Mudd and Lorca were still amazing.

>ST
Worst: Season 2.
Best: Season 1.

>PCD
Worst: Terrible storytelling with the most blue-balled uninspired uninteresting conclusion possible, as well as the rape of multiple canon characters.
Best: Riker making pizza.

>LD
Worst: Overuse of references that don't need to be referenced every 5 seconds.
Best: Fun characters and good episodes (Shaxs is S-Tier).

Excited for PRO, be it good or bad.
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>>126356500
No, of course not. He put the whole show together wearing a blindfold.
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>>126355679
LD always just said 'Cetacean Ops'. It was only in TNG that Geordi said, have you seen the dolphins?
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>>126356607
No, I'm in dechair.
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>>126356607
nah I just don't see lesbians every time I see two girls getting along
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>>126356611
>>ENT
>Worst: Bad actors.
>Best: A cool premise for a show with an unwelcoming yet familiar setting.
you forgot the bad writing and how they failed to execute an interesting premise. That's much more aggravating than having bad actors.
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>>126356617
They said they like each other and started holding hands.
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>>126356598
>family units that hate each other too much for incest, not "sure Dave, bring my nephew and we'll make her airtight!"
Like the Yuropean monarchies?
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>>126356620
The writing was awful (primarily cringe Prequel Trilogy quality dialogue) but the stories themselves were decent.
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>>126356613
Yeah, but the cetaceans we saw on the Ceritos in this episode were belugas.
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>>126356571
>I don't understand the very basic dynamics of the show
Cool story bro
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>>126356611
>Worst: Overuse of references that don't need to be referenced every 5 seconds.
At least is not annoying
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>>126356607
Jesus Christ /u/ can you fuck off for one goddamn minute?
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>>126356611
I just realized: we can get Enterprise S5 if they agree to do it animated.

I don't think the Lower Decks art style would really work though.
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>>126356628
oh wow yes they like each other, what is this 6th grade gossip? She also likes Boimler and Tendi and her mother.

also she grabbed her wrist for two seconds to lead her over to a table, that's no holding hands
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>>126356650
>I don't think the Lower Decks art style would really work though.
I'd like something more human like TAS, He-Man or Archer.
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>>126356607
PIC RELATED
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>>126356620
>you forgot the bad writing and how they failed to execute an interesting premise.
You forgot that season 4 happened. TNG had three shitty seasons to start with, and we forgave it because it shaped up. ENT just never got the chance.

Even before then, there were at least a dozen fairly good episodes in the first two seasons, like anything with Shran and the repair station.
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>>126356665
>TNG had three shitty seasons to start with,
No it didn't.
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>>126356537
Bow to the masters
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>>126356650
Combs did just demonstrate that he has the chops. All I want is Shran on the bridge. Malcolm can fuck off. A Tellarite helmswoman would be fun, too.
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>>126356528
anon, please. I watched LOK.
That "friendship growing into something more" was only visibly telegraphed if you knew it was coming, and that "growing" process was Asami being a manipulative, controlling, and abusive friend who cut Korra off from the people around her and made her feel that Asami was the only one she could trust or rely on.
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>Marinler shipper cope
Juicy
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>>126356655
No. It's not going to work if they make it "cartoony" or go for that discount shonen anime look either that's super popular these days.

If they're not going to do it right then don't bother at all, because the audience will never take it seriously.
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>>126356233
Jennifer is the traitor, rigth?
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>>126356111
Yeah, because they can't run to the nearest standard one, and most times the lifeboats haven't been shown big enough to take a dolphin or beluga
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>>126356668
>nuh-uh!
Compelling
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>>126356681
What would Shran even do? He's a leader and he'd be third in command at best.
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>>126356572
given the state of modern western women, there is probably something to be said for the Ferengi way of doing things.
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>>126356696
>say something stupid
>get told it's stupid
ZOMG STOP OPPRESSING ME
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>>126356703
oh edgy, how about you try bringing that one up to your mom
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>>126348124
He'll get cucked by his clone
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>>126356697
Argue with t'Pol and have sexual tension that ticks off trip. Help the ship upgun as the war with the Romulans begins. Train the crew on basic warship service, since they've been mostly fudging it up to now. Form a better debate triangle than Trip could ever do.
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>>126356709
And now hyperbole
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>>126356712
if you met my mom, you'd know the theoretical is completely justified.
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>>126356715
It would be more interesting if he cucked his clone, due to a mixup during a starbase layover, and helped his clone through the crisis of confidence.
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>>126356732
>edgy boy hates his mom
Aww, did she ask you to clean your room?
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>>126356724
I just think it'll be weird having him outside the command structure, especially when Archer invariably gets indisposed and leaves T'Pol in charge.

I want more Shran, but I'm struggling to see how they'd use him as a regular. Whatever, I know the LD creators are reading this thread. Run the idea upstairs you mooks, I want more Enterprise.

And don't half ass the art.
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>>126356391
The one to the right of Cerritos is probably a Nova-class, like the Equinox in Voyager
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Called it.
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>>126356741
psychologically abused me to the point I nearly became a serial killer.
what's your excuse for being a suck up? mommy teach you to worship her pussy and call you her big boy?
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>>126356741
>Aww, did she ask you to clean your room?
Hello Doc. Peterson, I am glad for your visit
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>>126355950
SOMEONE PLEASE DO A WOJAK EDIT
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HETERO SHIPPERS BTFO
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>>126356787
>psychologically abused me to the point I nearly became a serial killer
not him but this almost sounds like you killed one person
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>>126356793
No. Someone vaporize this anon instead.
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>>126356726
Boimler is plenty happy. He was the MVP this season. Give that man a trophy.
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>>126356787
>psychologically abused me
Nice.
>mommy teach you to worship her pussy and call you her big boy
Very nice.
Mean or nice mommies, it's all good if I can give them my cummies.
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>>126356761
It doesn't look right for a Nova.
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>>126356684
It is.

All these Self-inserters getting btfo is funny
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>>126356840
There is no actual BTFO, though.
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>>126356813
What are you talking about?
They clear the way for Boimler and vulcan Mariner
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Marinler shippers BTFO
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lmao I bet the writers realized how racist Mariner is towards Aliens so they made her become friends with Jennifer
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>>126356787
women are fucking monsters Anon, never expect honor,love, trust, or inspiration for them, these concepts are alien to them, if you expect anything for them you will be frustrated.
Women are just toys to play, sorry for your pain Anon, stand up and keep going.
Iknowthatfeelingbro.jpg
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>>126356852
>>126356853
cope
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>>126356819
i came really close to killing a lot of people, actually.
thankfully i managed to maintain control and get some help before I got pushed too far, but it was very, very close for a while. Not everyone is as lucky.
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>>126356883
good for you
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>>126356840
>All these Self-inserters getting btfo is funny
yeah, it's gonna be great when Boims and Mariner finally hook up later in the show and all the lesbian self inserts get spaced out the airlock.
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>>126356787
Not a reason to generalise what a shitty person did to you to whole group. That kind of hate is an other way she still has her grips on you.
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>>126356894
>Boimler was disgusted at the idea he was dating Mariner
>Boimler was repulsed by Boimler's naked body, but aroused by Jennifer kissing the Trill lady
Hmmmmmmmmmm
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>>126356874
thanks fren. I wish you the best too.
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>>126356879
How so?
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S3 will open with a scene of Mariner getting eaten out by Jen

screencap this
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>>126356879
Illogical
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>>126356835
This was the best side view I could get. I agree it's not exactly the same, but it's the same idea as a Nova
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People only watch Lower Decks for Mariner and Boimler. If they wanna sink the show, by all means.
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>>126356944
If they killed them both off and made it the Samanthan and D'Vana show, I'd watch it even harder.
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>>126356944
Please, Mariner and Boimler aren't even in the top 5 of reasons.
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>>126356944
Mostly, and now also Vulcan waifu. I sort of enjoy the little trek references but at the same time get annoyed at when they present something that is anathema to trek, like making fun of people for having an ailment or defect
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>>126356944
>People only watch Lower Decks for Mariner and Boimler
Not really, I would love watch Boimler as a Ensign in the Titan for this season
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>>126356917
Given vulcan physiology, would a vulcan handjob be:

a) good
b) great
c) terrible
e) terrible because they're stubborn and would rely on vulcan texts describing descriptions of the act
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>>126356978
Vulcans are touch-telepaths, so it would feel amazing, provided your thinking with your dick.
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>>126356944
>Not T'Lyn the new hotness
Why wouldn't they make Mariner date Jen for the LTGBQAIFKJNINGN+ community, and then Chad Boimler and T'Lyn for the self insertfags?

Easy money
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>>126356952
>>126356953
>>126356961
>>126356965
Allow me to clarify. People who create fan content (and thus engagement) watch it only for Mariner and Boimler.
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so far the writers have been based, at most if they make mariner and jen a thing maybe it might last a single episode on S3 but then they broke up and it becomes a recurring joke that they annoy each other
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>>126356894
I'll be back to laugh at you when they don't
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Did they make the cat doctor old and scruffy in an effort to discourage r34?
Because they failed miserably
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>>126357012
They knew exactly what they were doing.
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>>126356903
>Boimler was repulsed by Boimler's naked body
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>>126357023
I know that feeling
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bros
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>>126357050
kek
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>>126356857
What were they thinking?
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this is what i think of when i see jen and mariner
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>>126355504
The other Rutherford memories that we haven't seen in episodes before.
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>"I can’t really get into it too much, but by the end of this season, Boimler understands exactly what Mariner means to him."
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>>126357138
That is a rare, canon depiction of a New Year's Eve party in the Star Trek
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>0 t'lyn

what the fuck bros
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>>126357183
"by the end" means at any point before the end of the season
And in fact it was covered in 2x05
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>>126356978
She's incredibly strong, incredibly dextrous, and she's a touch telepath. Oh, and she's into acting disinterested and making you find all the subtle clues that this is making her horny, like her mind screaming at you.
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>>126357251
So what does she mean to him?
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Enjoyed it but felt like quite a bit of the drama was forced which pretty much messed it up from being great.
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>>126357012
No, they made her like that because every good Star Trek doctor is old and cranky and not named Pulaski.
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>>126357372
She's his number one
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>>126355026
they finally gonna put Janeway on trial?
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>>126357433
Nah, Starfleet only prosecutes good people and retards named Tom Paris.
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>>126357422
BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
>>
Reasons I hate LD:
-The animation style is shit.
-The shitposter who spams it (you) has killed any possibility of me ever giving it half a chance. The creepy way he sexualizes the crudely drawn cartoon images and their unattractive voice actors is deeply disturbing.
-The show is unquestionably over the top WOKE. Everything is disgustingly oversexualized, men are constantly the butt of jokes, they're constantly defeated by women. The captain is a black woman, her daughter is the main character. The men are sexualized primarily in homoerotic ways, the show fits the woke ethos of "everyone is gay or bisexual" rejecting the blatant reality that 96% of everyone on EARTH is straight. Orgies, gay or otherwise should not occur on a Federation ship. It's disgusting and insulting and all you ever say by way of excuse is bringing up some past example out of context to justify it or mockingly presenting a strawman instead of responding to the EXACT fucking words stated to you. That you have to make alterations shows you're arguing in bad faith, stupid, and a piece of shit.
-The literal ads posted for Paramount shit and attacks on the shows the people here like.
-No one watches the show. No one likes the show. They had to give it for free to get anyone to stream it. They split the initial 1 season run of 20 episodes into two of 10, then you claim it as a victory they managed to get an actual season renewal after that.
-That humiliating bullshit where you tried to claim it as a victory that it was the number one downloaded soundtrack, on a platform no one uses, for BUYING MP3s. No one buys MP3s anymore, it's all streaming or downloading for free.
-Did I mention the sheer number of plots where a male character is raped, beaten by a woman, kicked in the crotch, made to do something gay or lectured and talked down to by a woman for disobeying? The entire ideology of the series is garbage.
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>>126355366
Not him, but I'm doing that & all I'm getting are YouTube videos with links that lead to dead ends or sign up scams.
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>>126357493
Reasons I hate LD:
- Boimler and Mariner didn't get together
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>>126357493
>>>/tv/trek/ is this way
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>>126357493
>I didn't give this show a chance so here's a bunch of nonsense my pox-ridden brain made up to rationalize my bullshit
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>>126357493
Take your meds, schizo.
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>>126357493
nobody cares what YOU like

go back to /tv/ hater
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>>126357493
>-The shitposter who spams it (you) has killed any possibility of me ever giving it half a chance. The creepy way he sexualizes the crudely drawn cartoon images and their unattractive voice actors is deeply disturbing
If that's all it takes to make it impossible for you to give a chance for a show, how canyou give a chance to any show ever? Because that happens fro all of them? Do you even enjoy any existing show?
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>-The show is unquestionably over the top WOKE. Everything is disgustingly oversexualized
At some point you are going to have to make up your mind. Are wok guilty of of being a bunch of puritans or of oversexualising everything. It's one or the other.
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>>126357493
>That humiliating bullshit where you tried to claim it as a victory that it was the number one downloaded soundtrack, on a platform no one uses
Man, nobody brague about that and it's even the first time I ever hear about it, from an hater.
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>>126357493
>-Did I mention the sheer number of plots where a male character is raped, beaten by a woman, kicked in the crotch, made to do something gay or lectured and talked down to by a woman for disobeying
No? Because it basically either amount to zero or the same amount a woman get through this too. That's probably why you did not in fact mention any of it.
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>>126357626
puritans are in deep denial about their sexuality, it's kind of like Vulcans and emotion
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>>126357677
Yeah, but they still do the opposite of oversexualising the work they put to display for all to see.
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is there a folder for all eps?
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>>126357714
S1: https://mega.nz/folder/9AhSRCCD#bSwG5EFBpUXyBNueDTRmgg
S2: https://mega.nz/folder/dVEn1SST#T0AxHXFp9smEqkBlE6yMvQ
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>>126350840
>Marinnfer
>Last name and first name
Why are you like this. Go with Beckifer or Ma'reyan
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>>126355141
If you're still here, I got it.

https://www4.watchseries.ninja/episode/star-trek-lower-decks-season-2-episode-10/
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shit episode
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Last episode and the finale are switching gears hard and it's giving me whiplash. Two good TNG plot ideas done a disservice by the 22-minute format following what even McMahan referred to as a sketch comedy episode, the equivalent of Interdimensional Cable

If the show wants to be a more serious Trek show that's great, it can petition the dark one for a longer runtime or start doing two-parters to fit the length of a standard episode, but it can't do that AND le wacky random violence

Pick a lane
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>>126357215
She's coming back next season.
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>>126358126
Actually, the finale did have a longer runtime. 29 minutes versus the usual 25.
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>>126358194
I felt a lot less decompressed than the last episode, but I had chalked that up mainly to it being a much smaller plot
Still, these plot beats have no room to breathe and dialogue that should be happening with characters at leisure able to fully express themselves has to happen in the middle of the action
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>>126358219
a lot less in need of decompression, that is
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>>126358126
Here is a fun trick, if you watch a Lower Decks episode two time in a row, it has about the same length as a Live action Trek episode.



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