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Predict the twist
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>>125760278
SpOck is final boss
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We don't find out who the host of Venom is till the very end because it jumps between Harry, Peter, Kraven and finally Eddie to set up a Miles-sizwd spin off
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>>125760278
>Peter struggling against Kraven after defeating venom
>symbiote slowly crawling towards Peter
>if he gets it he will have enough power to face kraven
>player gets a semi in anticipation
>Miles jumps in and symbiote attaches itself to him
>swapped to control Miles who is now superior to Peter in every way
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Probly to dark but what if harry is dead and venom is controlling his body making him look alive. I doubt they'll do this tho
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>>125760321
If this doesn't happen I will be genuinely surprised.
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>>125760321
Would they make Miles the focus? Not even normies like him
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>>125760321
>>125760344
Highly unlikely. Insominac isnt dumb enough to do that
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>>125760321
Making Miles a character so quickly was the dumbest mistake ever, they can't side-line him without looking racist. What's the point in having two Peter Parkers with all the same abilities and morals and personalities? It just takes away opportunities to introduce other characters, takes away move sets that could have been given to Peter, takes away development time that could have been spent introducing a unique playable character and takes away side missions.
One of the Spider-Men is definitely going to get the symbiote and you will have to battle them as the other one 100% which could actually be fun and is a good story thread. Of course I would prefer them to have time to develop Flash or Harry for the dramatic and personal venom fight but what can you do.
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>>125760394
>What's the point in having two Peter Parkers with all the same abilities and morals and personalities?

You are a severe retard if you think they are the same.
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>>125760420
for all intensive purposes they are, at least they are similar enough to not justify taking focus away from either of them. We don't need two Spider-Men
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>>125760278
Why did Venom sound like Kraven?
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>>125760349
Everyone hates Miles. I don't understand why they keep trying to shoehorn him in everything.
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At least one of them is a futa.
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>>125760536
Kraven was doing the voice over was his reveal and Venom stepping out of the shadows was Venom's reveal. They were separate characters in the trailer although I do hope we get to see Kraven wear the suit, he probably will but if Miles takes up some of the spotlight idk if we will have time for every single plot point like this
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>>125760546
Should have just made Peter black desu, at least they wouldn't keep stepping on each other's toes
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>>125760449
All the new heroes are walking asterisks, except for X-23.
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>>125760449
Mikes literally has a different power in his venom elctro blasts from spidey in his spidey based combat, and is more a long range fighter compared to peters up close tech melee fighter.

Miles is a down to earth normie story. Peter is the classic tragic hero story. Boom, you can have two distinct plot now.
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>>125760349
Miles is for kids, or horny nerds who like bbc. Kids overshadow the older spidey fans by a long metric mile.
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>>125760278
mary jane fell in love to miles
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>>125760449
>for all intensive purposes
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>>125761036
you shitposters are a diamond dozen
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>>125760686
Yeah no lmao.Nobody cares about miles games or comics wise when compared to peter. 20 million sales beats 6 million so I highly doubt kids like miles more
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>>125761059
This is a doggy dog board
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>>125761162
truly this is a blessing in the skies
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Somehow kids overshadow the older fans and yet the sales oppose this idea. Really makes you think
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>>125760278
MJ finds out that Peter had been fucking Miles boipucci on the side all along.

God, I'm so horny right now.
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>>125760278
IT WAS ME PETER! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!
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The big twist is neither miles or Peter are the player, spiderman 2 will be 100% a venom game.
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>>125761270
needs more blur and more eye glow
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>>125760587
-_-
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You mean like this games Otto? I think it’s pretty obvious Norman creates Carnage since he can’t reacquire the Venom symbiote to save his sick son.
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>>125760449
>for all intensive purposes
It’s “intent and purposes” you fucking illiterate moron
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>>125761068
>20 million sales beats 6 million

Because of Spidey not Peter Parker.
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>>125760278
Pete will die and the series will be about Miles.
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>>125760321
>No way... he became even BLACKER
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>>125761452
Are you a troll? Your argument makes literally no sense. If Spiderman was the key selling point why didnt Miles make even half as much money? The truth is that nobody cares about Miles as much as /Co/ claims. He's constantly outsold in comics and games by Peter as Peter is the chracter people think of when they think Spiderman.
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>>125761467
You dumb doomsayer motherfuckers keep saying this and yet Insomniac has demonstrated time and again they won’t be doing this. They and Sony both know Peter is what sells. Furthermore, stop acting like Miles is an immediate indication of a “replacement”. This was only a thing in Ultimate.

They even repeatedly call him a sidekick
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>>125761449
first day?
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>>125761553
Don’t use the guise of “memes” to mask stupidity
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>>125760349
>>125760546
>>125760686
>>125761499
The only people who care about Miles are a very loud minority of virtue-signalling twitter leftists who get a boner from telling people they love seeing people of color everywhere.
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>>125760349
>the only user to dismiss Miles but still call him a great character is ACasualRacist02
kek
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Insomniac Miles is the only good take on the character, I don’t even know why /co/ is pissy about him
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>>125760278
Spoder Gwen DLC.
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>>125760278
Venom is destroyed by the end of game (except not really) and Norman swears vengeance on Spider-Man since Venom was supposed to be the cure for Harry.
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>>125761803
Oh god fuck no. Spider-Gwen is arguably way worse than Miles and yet /co/ will give her a pass because ASS
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>>125761068
Spiderman didn't hit 20 million in a few months. It took years. This is why I don't get why people compare the miles game so much.
>lol it only sold 1 million
>lol 3 million
> lol 6 million
In the long run it may not hit 20 million being a standalone expansion, but get how the number game works at least.
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I want Insomniac's Venom.
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>>125760278
Peter fucks the deaf girl an Miles's mom
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>>125761793
>Insomniac Miles is the only good take on the character
There is no such thing as a good take on the character he is the same in every adaptation and he will always be trash unless marvel kills him off or changes his name to arachnig
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>>125761919
Yes yes blah blah nigger blah blah let me self insert. Honestly I wonder when we’ll ever be able to talk about Miles without fanboys foaming like rabid dogs
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>>125761862
PS4 Spider-Man sold 13 million in its first year, which rose to 20 million by the second year, with no special events, during a period of fierce competition both on its console and the rival consoles.

Miles *shipped* 6 million copies in his first year, with the benefit of being the headlining launch title for a hyped new console, being front and center of its reveal, being bundled with the console, not having any competition, having the PS5 remaster of the PS4 game locked behind it, being released on two consoles with a larger install base, advertised as a full game while being cheaper than full price, after selling like absolute shit in the launch + holiday window which is where most games get their sales, having scalpers buy up consoles and copies hoping to resell them at a higher price, in a pandemic which resulted in many games like Animal Crossing breaking sales records because people are stuck inside and have nothing to spend their money on.

This means when all the imaginable stars align for Miles, he still can't even sell as well as Peter does passively a year after launch.
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>>125760321
>>125760344
Stop getting mad about things that haven't happened.
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>>125761862
That's because he is being hard carried by literally everyone else. Without Peter or the spiderman brand he is nothing and even with it he can still flop like he did in the comics

This
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>>125761782
Pottery.
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>>125760278
Miles is the one to beat Venom after Peter jobs and Peter tells him "Wow, you really are the better hero and the true Spider-Man 2"
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>>125762250
It’s what this board does every day sadly. Perpetual triggering
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>>125760349
Every black comicfag likes Peter infinitely more than Miles, he's just virtue signalling for people who like the smell of their own shits
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>>125762315
>Miles gets his own spin-off so he doesn’t drag the spotlight away from Peter
>Said spin-off does nothing but show how he isn’t as good as Peter but that’s okay
When will it be enough for you g
insecure guys?
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>>125760349
>Hyaman86
>Don't force me to play as Miles. Don't focus on Miles.
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Why do you people hate Miles so much. My only exposure of him was in Spidervserse and i think he was great
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>>125762453
He's Poochie
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>>125760321
this would actually be pretty cool
>miles becomes the boss in the third game/set up a venom-island sort of scenario
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>>125762550
Correction; he USED to be Poochie. Back when Bendis was pushing him hard in 616 and especially in Civil War II. However since then Marvel has really reeled back on him. But then again this board doesn’t actually keep track of current events unless they’re spoonfed a page/panel to get outraged over
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>>125762453
I dont hate him. Hes meh imo and can be done right. What I hate is the dumbasses on /co/ constantly having fits over him somehow replacing Peter
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>>125762627
This. Miles is now inoffensive and “meh” but /co/ over exaggerates like hell
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>>125762341
When they stop wasting time making Miles shit when no one likes him. He's the blandest, most shitty incarnation of any spiderfag
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>>125762453
>My only exposure of him was in Spidervserse
Comics or the movie? I don't hate him but the movie did a better job with him than the comics did in 10 years.
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>>125762644
He’s a glorified sidekick and Peter isn’t going anywhere. Big fucking deal
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>>125762684
Just like Poochie
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>>125762644
>no one likes him
kids do, which is why they use him
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>>125762694
Nice source bro
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>>125762689
A Poochie implies that said character somehow halts the entire plot to focus on them and pushed indefinitely. This hasn’t been true for years now. Miles has his own book/corner of canon, so whatever, he can rot there. Quit acting like a victim
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>>125761499
>If Spiderman was the key selling point why didnt Miles make even half as much money?

Because Peters game was the first game that promoted the success of this type of spidey gameplay and concept thst insomiac created, was longer more colorful, and had more of a attention grabbing premise, Miles just coped the first spiderman and was shortwr than the first.. If miles came first, got even half as much attention as peter in his game and was twice as long hed make just as much money.
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>>125762752
And if they'd only use my OC instead of Miles to do those things usually reserved for Peter because they were invented for him and his brand and popularity then they could've also probably maybe made the same amount of money likely
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>>125762705
People will call this a success but it's pretty embarrassing that an animated movie for kids with the spiderman brand made less than 400 million and this wasn't even a miles solo film he was carried by Peter again. If this was a movie about Peter without any pointless character holding him back it would have probably made a billion
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>>125762752
"If X happened this situation would be different" Marvel has had literal years to make a Miles game that was on par with the length of Spiderman 1 and yet they havent done it. The length is irrelvent when the company knows that Peter draws in more customers. It's like making a Nightwing game and expecting it to sell better then a batman game
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>>125762772
Miles would have gwen stacy and ganke. That alone would set above peters typical lore.
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>>125762843
Gwen IS Peter's lore dumbass
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>>125762843
Gwen Stacy is a part of Peter's lore, try again
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>>125760278
Some universes merge, so they can justify the x-men appearing in the Disney MCU?
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>>125762817
>Miles game that was on par with the length of Spiderman 1 and yet they havent done it.

You are ironically giving them ideas and tempting fate, if into the spideyverse shows anything, anything peter does, miles can do and it will sell big.
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>>125762884
Your literally a troll. I showed you numerous times that the Peter centric game sells better and your only response is "but if x happened and if the moon was blood red the Miles game would of done better". What if's arent proof of profit.
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>>125762884
The general consensus was that Miles was more boring than basically every other Spiderman in spiderverse though
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>>125762719
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Norman Osborne had a crazy wife up in his attic this whole time!


..wait wrong story.
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Far from home made 1.132 billion. So please tell me again one thing Miles has done better that can prove your inane fear of him taking over
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>Miles apologists
What a sad, sorry thread
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>>125762976
He's been in every piece of Spider-Man media in the last five years with absolutely no sales or successes to back up that amount of forcing, he doesn't have to take over to ruin what could be good self-contained Peter stories
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>>125762843
>>125762851
>>125762870
They stopped that shipping shit regardless. Also fake Gwen is ass too
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>>125762952
Glad I left you speechless
>>125763023
No one is pretending Miles is amazing, he’s just inoffensive at this point. However people can and will call out the whiny faggots larping that we’re still in the Bendis era. It’s tiring
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>>125763033
>Miles merely stands there
>”Oh god this plot is ruined!”
Grow up
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>>125763096
explain how any of the current miles iterations are an improvement from the bendis version
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>>125763118
>Lose Yourself video? I was in the back
>Superman video? I was in the back
Anon was wrong Miles isn't Poochie he's Bizarre
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>>125763148
Sure, the Insomniac one is easily better than Bendis autism
>Sold as an ally/rookie/sidekick rather than a replacement
>Shown to have his own strengths to make up for the shit he sucks at/Peter is better at
>Venom blast isn’t nearly as broken as the comic version, which would one shot fucking Blackheart
>Constantly fucks up and isn’t a Mary Sue
>Has his own interests that separates him from Peter
>Plot/characters don’t constantly dicksuck Miles, as civilian characters in game even say they prefer Peter
But I guess none of that counts?
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>>125762927
>Peter centric game sells better

Because hes the default and the most popular identity of the real star, Spider-Man.
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Venom kills Peter in the first 30 minutes of the game. You play as Miles and Venom for the rest of the game.
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>>125762149
>two consoles with a larger install base
Most people don't know or care that its on PS4. Sony's marketting was entirely on the PS5 and by the time it became obvious that no one is getting the fucking console any time soon, plenty of reviews were already out calling it a glorified DLC. Im personally not going to rebuy the same game just for a DLC.
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>>125762149
You forget that was the first spiderman game in years and the best one in decades. Understand how things are not black and white, circumstances play a massive factor. It's like why did that demon slayer movie do so well. It is not because it's the greatest anime movie of all time.
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>>125760349
For better or worse they're going to do what they're going to do, they don't listen to their fans. They did little gestures like certain costumes from time to time (Raimi one being the most prominent example), but when the rubber meets the road they don't care for negative feedback. If you go to that sub you can find threads about how people still don't like Peter's new face with thousands of upvotes as recently as like a couple of months ago, and reverting that isn't even something that forces them to change their creative vision very much. With that in mind, rest assured that they're going to do whatever the hell they want to.
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>>125760349
I hated Miles since inception

t. black
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>>125763118
When you have a character with a premise as terrible as Miles, yeah kinda, he's a bad omen
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Miles' powers are synthesized from Venom which was built upon Peter's spider. This makes Peter the ideal host but Miles becomes the key to freeing him. Osborne finally puts everything together and snaps when Peter won't give his blood to Harry to make him a host. Osborne vows to chase Peter to the ends of the earth. Peter wraps himself in two-ply toilet paper and goes on a world tour to avoid Osborne in a shocker ending.
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>>125762453
I don't hate him, he's just boring. I wish i could hate him, as hating things can fun. Miles is just boring and unfun.
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>>125762453
Miles is literally too bland and boring to be worth the energy to hate. Less wishing death on him and his creator, more skipping over and pages that feature him to save time
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>>125761068
>Yeah no lmao.Nobody cares about miles games
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>>125764181
The sequel to the best selling Superhero game of all time should be pretty high up that list, would probably even higher if it wasn't just a glorified cash grab DLC
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>>125760394
>What's the point in having two Peter Parkers with all the same abilities and morals and personalities?
Because some black people and sjws had a bitch fit abour a black Spider-Man and were rewarded. Under different circumstances I would t have minded a black Spider-Man but now I absolutely hate miles because of the shitlibs who made him.
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>>125764250
What i find rather strange about this is that from my experience, black people fucking love Spidey (Pete)
I never believed that he was made for black comic fans.
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>>125764181
Again 6 million compared to 20 million is fucking nothing. Great proof you posted I guess lol. Somehow a game that couldnt even break even with the first is your proof that Miles is even reaching half of peters popularity.
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>>125764301
That’s why I said some black people. It was mostly sjws who are white.
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>>125764358
cope
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>>125760302
What if it's "DIE DIE DIE" Ock?
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>>125764420
"CoPE" How about you cope with the fact Miles is a mediorce character and the sales prove that. Maybe cope with the face Ben riley was given the mainline role to lol
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>>125764440
nice cope kid i love it
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>>125764518
Nice argument kid. Keep those tears flowing as Ben gets the mainline role and better writers. Imagine being so low in popularity that a clone was chose to take the mainline role before you. Cope with these facts
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This is just two anons shitposting each other at this point, one pretending Miles is amazing, the other outraged. Anyone with sense knows Miles is bland but harmless currently
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>>125764566
More coping, lmao
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>>125764612
You seem to not understand that word. Why should I cope lmao? What exactly should I be coping about? Miles medirocrity?
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I was expecting them to subvert expectations and make Peter Venom, with the game switching to Miles fighting him, but I guess the trailer disproved that.
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>>125764566
thats some good cope
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>>125761793
Autism
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>>125760278
>Both Miles and Peter struggle to stop Venom without killing Brock
>Kraven is the one who defeats Venom by killing Brock
>Public views it as heroic one-upping because they don't know about Brock
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>>125761793
What's good about him.
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>>125760349
>7000 upvote post
>comments about not wanting miles has less than 100, most not even 10
>Not even normies like him
Wrong
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>>125765451
It’s listed in the thread
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>>125765845
4chan tend to do that. they proclaim the minority is the majority.
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Is it safe to say that Steve Blum already booked the role of Wolverine? I don't see him posting anything about it, but I saw people like David Hayter begging on Twitter to be Wolverine.
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>>125765845
>>125766018
Check the reddit yourself retards
>https://www.reddit.com/r/SpidermanPS4/comments/pmvbe4/what_are_your_biggest_donts_for_spiderman_2/
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>>125766047
You're right!
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>>125766155
Syke
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>>125766161
I'm looking at the top comments faggots not sorting by controversial or scrolling through to cherry pick individual comments that kind of align with what that anon said
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>>125766161
They are making fun of his justification for not focusing on Miles they are disagreeing with him retard
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>>125766386
Aren't* disagreeing
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>>125760278
Spiderman's girlfriend is pregnant and near the end of the movie Spidey has to try and get to the hospital in time (and beat the bad guys) because she's about to give birth.

The not-twist is that he's upset that he doesn't make it in time.

The twist is that when he sees the baby it's very obviously other-Spiderman's.
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What if wolverine had a black sidekick also called wolverine?
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>>125762705
>>125762816
>movie tickets now matter
ok Lion King remake is one of the best animated movies of all time, gotcha
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>>125766719
who was only a few years younger than wolverine and had the same backstory and could only truly flurish when actual wolverine was pushed aside?
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>>125766719
wasn't wolverine code-name x-23? Also if he was made before 2016 like iron-man, superman, aqua-man, batman, and more nobody will care. if he was made after that date he will generate free publicity.
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>>125767041
At least she has some minor unique characteristics. A fair comparison to Miles she would have to be the same age as Logan, be born in the same place, have the same amnesia problems, sleep with Wolverine's love interest, fight crime in the exact same location, same intelligence, same origin story etc. Alternate versions of the same character are nothing new but at least she offers a different perspective by being from a different time period.
I like Miles when Peter is an old man, sure it's a generic story but at least Miles offers a fresh perspective and compliments Peter. Insomniac's might be one of the worst just because of how close in age they are. After Mile's game they are basically the same character, at least in comics X-23 can be pushed aside instead of stepping on Wolverine's storylines in every issue
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>>125767201
It's hard to take miles criticism seriously because a lot of people make it about race. If he was not half-black nobody will care about him like the 100+ spider-man.
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>>125767290
Yes we would though, nobody wants another Spider-Man getting in the way of actual Spider-Man stories. I would rather you make Peter black instead of forcing him to share the spotlight with Miles. All other alternate Spider-Men get pushed aside after a while
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>>125767201
wasn't Gwen spider-man 1/10 love interest from 1970. her only purpose in most story that mention her was to die. Fan even keep asking for her to die in 2010.
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>>125767324
Not him but you act like Peter is constantly bumping shoulders with these people, he’s not. ASM is still his book and Peter is the focus
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>>125767324
>I would rather you make Peter black
people lost their mind over a side character alien in a CW show being black. There's no way the internet can handle black peter.
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>>125767290
stop strawmanning, I gave you an actual critique of what's wrong with Miles and how he is different than another alternate character X-23. I even explained the scenario where I like Miles.
The only issue I have with his race is people bringing it up to try discredit genuine and rational criticism of his character or his inclusion in certain projects. I am concerned for this sequel because we now have two Spider-Men who are basically the same character taking up story time and side missions. One less Venom Mission of Black Cat mission to include too much focus on Peter Jr will annoy me and many fans are genuinely concerned about this
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>>125767358
I'm talking about the game
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>>125767290
It's hard to take Miles defenses seriously because literally no one cares about him past his race, suggest making him white like Damien was made brown in the webtoon and see how quickly people realize he exists to be walking propaganda
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>>125767407
That’s not true of the games either though. It’s still Peter headlining
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>>125767438
Most people are neutral about him like the 100+ spider-mans. Also Damien is half middle-eastern and has progressively been getting darker every issue. Even batman skin tone gets darker sometime.
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>>125767478
for now but they set up a new character who is just the same character as Peter who shared equal spotlight with Peter in the trailer.
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>>125767509
>for now
You keep circling back to hypotheticals as an excuse to stay upset
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>>125767407
>normal gamers
I get to play with 2 characters, epic
>you
HELP ME TRUMP, THE SECOND CHARACTERS IS BLACK, I CAN'T HANDLE HAVING MORE OPTIONS
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>>125767540
I'm not upset I am just voicing rational concerns while critiquing the character of Miles
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>>125767554
>Can't bring up a single reason why Miles is any good so has to play the race card
Why is this so common with Miles criticism?
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>>125767570
But we’ve already established HES different enough from Peter to warrant an additional character slot/option. Peter is more gadget focused whereas Miles relies on venom attacks.

I get the concern but frankly I think it’s exaggerated because the replacement thing was only really true in Ultimate
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>>125767601
why are you upset with more options in a video game, chudbro?
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>>125767621
>was only really true in Ultimate
And Spider-verse.
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>>125767554
>I get to play with 2 characters, epic
Peter or Peter with a different skin. Wow I am so glad they added him instead of idk playable Black Cat sections, playable venom, playable black suit, Peter with a more fleshed out and adaptable move set etc.
What is so special about Miles that you just HAVE to play as him, how do you justify the ability to play Miles being superior to giving us more Peter plots in his second fucking game. Miles would be better if they introduced him later or made him younger so he isn't Spider-Man just yet
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>>125767352
>dead before the webbing hit her
Wait... what? I thought the webbing snapping her spine/neck is what killed her.
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>>125767621
>Peter is more gadget focused whereas Miles relies on venom attacks.
It's the same thing from a gameplay standpoint even if it wasn't just a straight up lie
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peter and miles swap races and have to learn to navigate their new social status while also trying to find a cure
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>>125767670
Eh yes and no. I get what you mean but we still had a Peter but that multiverse shit gets muddled. In cartoons, the game, and effectively 616, Miles is just kind of their as a supporting character.
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>>125767352
Goblin doesn't know how falling works does
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>>125760278
The symbiote that's believed to be cancer curing suit ala Ultimate Spider-man/Specatcular Spider-man show, is actually Alien in origin like the 616 version.

Venom has no host.
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>>125767621
>But we’ve already established HES different enough from Peter to warrant an additional character slot/option
Is he though? What does he really bring to the table that it makes worth detracting from other parts of the game? I want to explain from a story and gameplay perspective what makes him so special AND why it is good enough to be prioritised over other playable characters and storylines
>inb4 racist
I like Zendaya as MJ and I liked the Miles DLC as spin off
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>>125760278
they're gay lovers
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>>125767709
>It’s the same thing
It’s not though. Did you even play it? Miles has like, 3 gadgets whereas Peter has 8 or 9. In most gameplay videos, and how I played at least, Miles’s combat relief more on building the venom meter and dishing out various electric attacks. Punch to break defenses, leap to counter swordsmen, ground pound aoe control, and static lift to disarm multiple foes/enter air combos.

The basic core of how they play is the same because they’re both spider men, but each differ in terms of niche/combos
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>>125767677
The little changes can go a long way. Also we have no idea if venom is playable. Do fans even wan't to play as black cat? It seem like a waste of programming for a character that is antithetical to spiderman game-play.
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>>125767722
Fair enough, but on that note, i think insomniac Miles shouldn't be called Spider-man, it made sense in Ult and Verse because he tool over for Pete, but here it's just strange.
It's as if Batman had new sidekick just called Batman with a very similar costume.
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>>125767834
I'd rather they program playable pedestrian sections instead of just making Spider-Man twice
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>>125767794
>What does he really bring to the table that it makes worth detracting from other parts of the game?
You mean you’d rather do MJ stealth? Weird. Miles allows B plots or perspectives from another area while Peter follows another leads, to later intertwine the two to solve the same issue.

Be honest with me, would any answer suffice for you, or is this just an excuse to complain because Miles exists at all?
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>>125767505
No other alternate Spider person could be forcibly inserted into every piece of Peter media without backlash unless they shared his skin color, it's very not kosher to complain about black people in any way these days if you want to keep your job.

>Also Damien is half middle-eastern
And Miles is afro-latino, how about we push the other side of his heritage the way they pushed Damien's, why not make Miles super light skinned with non-afro hair and lean into his latino heritage more? I think you know the answer.
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>>125767848
>i think insomniac Miles shouldn't be called Spider-man
I feel like we have this autism every thread. Miles didn’t even choose the name, the public did
>Oh my god, it’s another Spider-Man!
It’s not so much a mantle as it is the public classify what they are
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>>125767815
so the combat has a different skin? Woah groundbreaking even if the differences you described were as substantial as you pretend would you really want less Peter in the sequel so you can plays those Miles sections?
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>>125767601
Because the majority of complaints for comics and cartoons is "I hate blacks, women and gay, I'm going to ignore the product to talk about them" you can blame reactionaries for poisoning the well.
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>>125767883
>You mean you’d rather do MJ stealth?
Yes the stealth where she works with Spider-Man at the train station instead of just walking around slowly on her own is kino and offers a slightly unique gameplay experience and perspective.
Most of the MJ stuff was bad and lazy but it took up fuck all game time. If they forcefully remove control of Peter so you can still play as Spider-Man it's just stupid, at least MJ had a reason for doing something Spider-Man wouldn't / couldn't do
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>>125767945
The beauty of 4chan is that you can disregard the concept of well poisoning by just saying "that was those OTHER anons" in your next post.
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>>125767915
They have pushed his Latino heritage. you probably will have to read his stuff. also miles don't even have an afro and has been light skin.
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>>125761068
>>125762149
20 million sales on an install base of 116 million PS4 sold or a 18% attach rate. Compared to miles that sold 6 million on an install base of 10 million units giving him an attach rate of 60%. If consoles were so hard to come by he'd easily have sold more. Your math sucks cuck.
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>>125767945
>Because the majority of complaints for comics and cartoons is "I hate blacks, women and gay, I'm going to ignore the product to talk about them"
Not in this thread thought most rational complaints get met with "you just hate Miles because he is black"
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>>125767915
>And Miles is afro-latino, how about we push the other side of his heritage the way they pushed Damien's, why not make Miles super light skinned with non-afro hair and lean into his latino heritage more? I think you know the answer.
Not that anon but the answer is dominant genes are dominant. And not all latinos are light or straight haired to begin with.
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>>125767936
All you’re doing is goalpost moving, anon. Look I’m sorry Miles exists but you really need to cope with that. Whoopdie fucking do, he has a sidekick and plays different. Go get a time machine
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>>125768053
I played Miles on PS4 though
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>>125768012
This is the first time I’ve EVER heard someone defend the MJ sections
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>>125768066
>Not in this thread thought most rational complaints get met with "you just hate Miles because he is black"
Anon, we have not gone a single day in the last six years without at least one thread of race bait complaining that black characters exist. No rational arguments (and I'll even admit there are rational arguments to be made) can truly stand in the face of that raw seething hatred.
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>>125766719

I laughed out loud at this comment.
It's so on-point. This shit really is ridiculous.
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>>125766719
>>125768138
You mean Laura, who’s a literal clone and calls herself Wolverine too? Granted she’s a woman and not black but still
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>>125768089
>Whoopdie fucking do, he has a sidekick and plays different
I would like Miles if he actually played different. Instead he is the same character as Peter with the same abilities as Peter. All you do is take away Peter's storylines and side missions and give them to Peter 2. You have moved the goalposts here anon not me, I gave perfectly fine critiques and you just try to strawmen me as a racist. As I said make Peter black if you want heck give Miles his own game I'll buy it but if he isn't side-lined in Spider-Man 2 and I feel like there were potential unique plots of gameplay elements left out I will be very disappointed
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>>125760278
Miles is the one to die, make Peter quit.
Ben Reilly and Silk are the next protagonist
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>>125768126
>Anon, we have not gone a single day in the last six years without at least one thread of race bait complaining that black characters exist.
Wrong
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>>125768108
everyone liked the final short MJ section where you actually worked with Spider-Man and took control of Spider-Man mid mission
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>>125768053
PS4 install base was ~80 million in 2018 when Spider-Man PS4 released, Miles was released both on PS4 and PS5 for a combined install base of 125 million for an attach rate of not even 5%, you played yourself
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>>125768175
>Instead he is the same character as Peter with the same abilities as Peter.
Why do you keep saying this when venom blasts fundamentally changes the game?
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>>125768199
Just because you like Blade doesn't mean there isn't an omnipresent "boy I sure do hate niggers" thread somewhere in the catalog, anon. Sometimes it's Stonetoss, sometimes it's Miles Morales. Sometimes its Craig of the Creek. The Boondocks? We pretty much can't discuss that show anymore without a contingency of faggots coming in to scream about how the reboot will be woke and how BLM burned down all of Oregon. It's daily, omnipresent, and never ending.
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>>125768221
>everyone liked the final short MJ section where you actually worked with Spider-Man and took control of Spider-Man mid mission
You only speak for yourself.
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>>125768225
Why wouldn't you want to play the new fresh Spider-Man game? Didn't you like experienced post college Peter in the fresh open world with fun swinging mechanics? You could have had all that again with a reskin playing as a teenage Peter in the same city with none of the experience or characters or character development from the previous game, we even took away your gadgets and combat abilities so you have to earn all the same abilities again. Why would you not buy that?
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>>125768175
>I gave perfectly fine critiques and you just try to strawmen me as a racist.
Also for the record, never once called you racist nor implied it. I said you were mad Miles merely exists
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>>125768044
I'll poison your well
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>>125768259
>venom blasts fundamentally changes the game?
I can't tell if this is bait or you are just exaggerating. Fundamentally no and you still haven't justified why venom blast is so unique and important it justifies the entire existence of Mile's character instead of just giving Peter another move set where he waits for his taser webs to charge.
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>>125768308
>I said you were mad Miles merely exists
except I wasn't I said many times I liked Miles and would rather him be paired with an older Peter. I said I liked his DLC as well
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>>125768068
Since when do science statistics play a role in fiction writing? If that's the case then both Peter and Miles from being bitten by a radioactive spider since that's what would actually happen. The guy in pic related is half Samoan and didn't ask science's permission to appear 100% white, not to mention there is absolutely nothing preventing you from writing Miles or his parents as a different afro-latino mix for a lighter skinned result.
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>>125768225
>sales
How many copies did the port of Spider-Man PS5 sell or was it free for everybody?
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>>125768331
Anon I’m not repeating myself. You say it doesn’t but what you really want to say is “I don’t like how Miles plays”. Just say that. And when you post an image like that, that’s why people think you’re shitposting. We’re both better than that
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>>125768358
>I said many times I liked Miles
And yet you keep complaining he’s here at all. I’m sorry Peter isnt 40
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>>125768379
>You say it doesn’t but what you really want to say is “I don’t like how Miles plays”
I did like it though because it was a reskin of the game I already liked to play. Stop moving goalposts and reply to literally any point I make and I would be happy
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>>125768362
>The guy in pic related is half Samoan and didn't ask science's permission to appear 100% white,
Now that you mention it I can kinda see the Samoan. It's his brow and the shape of his nose. Maybe a little also in his mouth as well?
>not to mention there is absolutely nothing preventing you from writing Miles or his parents as a different afro-latino mix for a lighter skinned result.
I actually agree with this. I just understand that the vast majority of capeshit artists probably aren't experienced or trained enough to draw non-whites much less various nuanced mixes. I had to spend a year just to learn how to draw black girls myself and I still can't get asian eyes looking right.
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>>125768419
>And yet you keep complaining he’s here at all
no I don't. I'm sorry your boogeymen don't exist
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I hope you guys realize that this was probably the plan for MCU Spider-Man. Remember how they stopped the plot of Homecoming to point out that Aaron Davis exists and has a nephew?
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>>125767929
>the public did
No, the writers did
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>>125768453
I’m not moving anything
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>>125768479
Why are you strawmanning?
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>>125767201
Flash seem to be okay with multiple characters being exactly the same.
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>>125768479
I knew I forgot something in >>125768044. The anons that will say something and then ten minutes later gaslight and say that thing never gets said and it's "boogeymen".
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>>125760278
Miles reveals he's gay, and then Pter sighs as he's also gay. Then Peter takes off his sweaty mask and walks over to Miles, their lips ever closer Peter tells Miles "Well I'll see you later and swings off" which is perfectly fines because just because two men are gay doesn't mean they are attracted to each other.

Peter goes to his apartment finding MJ with a tripod, setting up a good angle. There are several men wearing only chastity belts with key necklaces around their neck.

Miles goes home and heates up a cup-o-noodles, chicken. After one bite he puts it back in the microwave for 20 seconds.
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>>125768781
show me where I said it then faggot



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