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So will this be Prime Mariner fighting Mirror Shaxs or Mirror Mariner (Mirrorner?) fighting Mirror Shaxs?
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>>125751375
I never actually considered it not being fully Mirror Universe stuff. I guess we'd need one of the main cast there to be a reference. I guess it makes sense that it's our Mariner in the MU
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>>125751944
Mirror Mariner would either be an actual hardline rules follower. Or dead. Cuz the Terran Empire wouldn't take any of Mariner's crap.
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>>125751375
Why would Mirror Shaxs be in the Terran Empire? Bajor was allied with the Klingon and Cardassian empires.
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>>125752615
This is post DS9 though so they'd need someone like Mariner to actually help get headway on defeating the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance because of how wild she is.

Speaking of the MU, Discovery making the Terran Empire so evil and rutheless makes how nutered they are by DS9 extra hilarious
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you ever think about how close the franchise was to absolute disaster? If there was just one less episode in the entire franchise, then the 800th episode would have been the garbage Mugato one instead of the great Orion/Tom Paris one
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>>125753012
I still would've preferred the station one be the 800th episode.
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>>125752742
The Terran Empire has often made exceptions, even the Wehrmacht had black and Chinese soldiers.
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>>125753288
According to Memory Alpha they skip The Cage to make this 800, so if you want you can add it back and make the Kayshon episode be that instead. Honestly that's the best episode of the season so a better pick.
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>>125751375
Episode 6 summary. Looks like the plot is about to start moving forward for the last half of the season? McMahan did say the season 2 trailer removed a lot of spoilers, which is very surprising given all they showed.
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>>125753534
Yeah the Kayshon episode is the strongest so far but the Doopler one is a decent seconder I'd say.
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>>125753767
There's something about the show's art style the fanart doesnt recapture, though it's close. I think Lower Decks has softer lines or something
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Looks like the helmsman is finally getting some attention. Only took a season and a half derp.
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>>125753868
Fan art uses less blur to create depth of field and also more saturated colors.
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>>125751375
I don't care, I'm sure it'll be pointlessly cringeworthy and violent

Mirror Mariner is their one shot this episode and I'm positive they're going to blow it because they can never not suck off Beckett Mariner
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>>125753767
>Look, Morty, I'm a Star Trek! I made myself a Star Trek!
>I'M STAR TREK RIIIIIIICK
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>>125753767
>>125754252
Kek based, hope all the new series come out like this. Best thing to happen to Trek in a while.
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>>125751375
I don't know. The uniforms look basically like the TOS era mirror universe. Are we sure this isn't just some holodeck shit? I know they showed holodeck characters (apparently) running amok, too.

Given his resurrection this seems like something set to cause people to flip but is actually entirely misleading/innocent.
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>>125754323
The TOS era has the sleeves and sashes, exposed belly for the females, but also two insignia, fwiw.
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>>125753012
>Gumato sex would be forever immortalized in Star Trek history as the 800th episode
Sounds based.
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>>125754087
I look forward to some clique on clique action
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I'm not really a trekkie, ive only absorbed info via osmosis, but I've noticed a couple things after lurking in the various trek threads.
>Lore stuff was declassified while Mariner was on the Quito(S1E5)
>Lore was originally supposed to lead the Pakleds instead of the Borg
>S2E2 shows that the Pakleds are too organized for their own good
>S2E5 has lore hiding among data bath bombs

But looking through the wiki, Lore is super dead, and Starfleet has his brain chip. does this theory hold weight for you guys or am I looking at real gullible folks?
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>>125751375
Prime Mariner disguised as Mirror Mariner fighting Mirror Shaxs who is actually Prime Shaxs in disguise.
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>>125754536
Could always be B4
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>>125751375
I'm thinking it's going to be full Mirror, or like In A Mirror Darkly where the crossover is all in characters' heads.
I believe McMahan said something about his favourite Enterprise story being brought into this season, which is the basis for my thoughts.
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>>125754536
Star Trek is at the retarded point where they'll justify rebuilding an entire positronic brain from a single neuron so fuck it, whatever, it could be Lore

I want the pain to end
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>>125754969
Yeah but like someone mentioned, they wouldn't still be wearing the TOS Mirror uniforms.
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>>125755097
did that happen in picard or something?
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>>125755097
>>125754536
I mean Lore was still alive, more or less, just powered down and dismantled. I wouldn't put it past someone to put him back together again. Maddox to see how he works (he always wanted to get his hands on Data, Lore would be the next best thing) or, hell, S31. Do the whole John Kahn thing. They were worried about the Dominion War and decided to reboot the insane android hoping he'd give them some nasty tips and tricks or some shit.
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>>125755097
And doing so always creates twins which is not explained or elaborated upon in any way and is only a concept to begin with solely because the poorly written plot required it to be true.
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>>125754279
I really hope we get more of Ramsey and her team.

>>125754146
That's it. You can see the ENT drawing has some good blur but then the colors are all wrong.

>>125754536
Dont forget we see the Crystaline Entity in an upcoming episode and that also worked with Lore. At this point Im pretty convinced it's somehow Lore. Which is a shame because it takes away the surprise, even if it was pretty well set up.

>>125754323
I think the show wont put too much things on the Holodeck, we already got the season opening scene be holodeck, and Im certain the scenes of Rutherford on a connie are also holodeck scenes.
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>>125755218
Yes, and like the rest of Picard it was fucking stupid.
There is literally ONE (1) good scene in the entirely of Picard and it's when a Borg cube comes out of a wormhole, and even then that's only because it makes a cool sound as it does so.
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>>125755312
The wrong android died anyway in STP. Fuck the sexy borg adventures, Picard helping Dahj explore the nature of her existence. Instead a bunch of other bullshit happened with paranoid druggies and Romulan Legolas.
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>>125755321
>I think the show wont put too much things on the Holodeck
Unless all the Holodeck shit happens in the same episode. Then again the scene anon referenced just showed people in period costumes and Troi and Crusher's stupid space yoga outfits.
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>>125755218
Picard bad
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>T'Ana gets extremely feisty when she gets drunk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0uaiCQ6Jwg
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>>125755478
I do think that the holodeck episode this season is going to have two seperate plots but Im thinking more how much holodeck stuff are they going to fill up the trailer with. I look at it this way, I know the rutherford thing is holodeck, so either the Mirror Universe stuff is on the holodeck or the Borg Cube stuff is also on the holodeck, but it cant be both.
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>>125755692
It showed the historical costume figures in the main hallways, so it could be a holoducken episode like the second one with Moriarty.
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>125754252
>HURR DURR RICK MORTY
this image is really getting it's mileage
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>>125756907
damn, I was sure I picked it
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>>125756970
I need a black version of this

>>125756526
I figured that's just people dressing up to go on the Holodeck like in TNG. Did the characters have to dress up for Crisis Point?
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>>125757588
**blank version, whoops
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>>125757588
They did, given Tendi kept the costume on when she left and that's why they vanished during the openning credits.
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>>125751375
I find it hard to beleive the show will always have this much detail
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Poofy vintage Tawny
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>>125758622
Was she in a band?
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>>125758676
Yup. She got into acting fairly recently.
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>>125754491
I feel like this is going to be some subplot about command division ensigns versus ensigns from other divisions that mingle.
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>>125754536
Oh, it goes much deeper than that. After his defeat in "Datalore", Lore was rescued and reactivated by the Pakleds.
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>>125759172
>Lore was rescued and reactivated by the Pakleds
And you know he totally murdered them. I would've liked to have seen it.
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>>125759312
Or he realized that they would make excellent puppets.
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>I could be your plus-one! <3
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I legit got teary-eyed when Stranger in Paradise played in the latest episode of Lower Decks. Such a sincere, heartfelt moment and a big fuck to anyone who says that this show is a cynical Rick and Morty clone.

Here's Brent Spiner's lovely cover of it.
https://youtu.be/bRezl-Nf-nI?t=2468
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>>125759839
Tamaranean eyes are spooky enough without being that big.
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>>125759660
>>125759839
You've been posting this all over here and /trek/
Is this suppose to be some kind of joke?
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>>125760127
No, it's just Becky being cute.
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>>125759782
>who says that this show is a cynical Rick and Morty clone.
People who do'nt watch it.
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no matter how hard he tries, rutherford can never compete with a guy who ascended
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>>125760221
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>>125760295
Mariner and Tendi really are polar opposites. Tendi is afraid of commitment, while Mariner has abandonment issues.
Boimler can't even begin to imagine how much he hurt her.
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>>125760313
Stop lying to yourself, Bradward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9r_IjT1544
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>>125754087

>Boimler hanging out with Jen

oh that's gonna be a deep cut.
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>>125760509
Looks like Boims is gonna go to that ballroom dancing competition with her.
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>>125759312
>And you know he totally murdered them. I would've liked to have seen it.

>Lore planning to manipulate the Pakleds into serving him
>Soong's homing signal activates
>Lore ends up beating the Pakleds to death with their own arms instead
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>>125751375
/tv/ here.
If you guys would keep yourselves contained to /co/ instead of flooding /tv/ with garbage, that'd be great.
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>>125760747
Why are you guys so mean to each other? all we get here is that one guy who hates any mention of sex or violence. There it's just
>kill yourself tranny/nignog/jew/etc
anytime someone has an opinion which just isnt very trek.
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>>125760747
>/tv/ here
We know exactly who you are and it looks like you don't speak for anyone but your mentally ill tranny self.
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Lower Deck counts as real episodes? Fuck off!
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>>125759782
>They play song to tell me how to feel!
>MASTERPIECE
McMahon learned it from Harmon who stole it from Scrubs
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>>125760747
>/tv/ poster so obsessed with shitposting about Lower Decks he has to come to a different board to do it instead of try to have a normal thread for more than 10 posts
/co/ and /tg/ can have on topic threads about the franchise without devolving into constant shitposting about board drama every 5 minutes, why cant you?
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>>125760947
>>125760952
>>125760973
Do you ever worry you'll never pass? Be honest.
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>>125760973
It's not an obvious reference by any means. Most people didn't even notice it.
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>>125760998
What? This isn't real Trek. This show is for chuclkefucks.
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>>125760984
He's gone completely batshit. Seeing attractive female forms unironically triggers him.
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>>125761024
Yeah but post axewound.
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>>125760998
>"Defending" a Trek show by calling someone a transexual
The irony is palpable
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>>125761041
But this show is for Trannies.
Plus it's a tomahawk wound you dingus.
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>>125761037
Not true because if they arent shitposting about LD they're cooming over some female trek character. Unironically interest in actually talking about Star Trek and have the gall to blame /co/ for it
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This is like Bayformers all over again, a bunch a fucking meatheads hijack the franchise.
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>>125761047
>>125761057
But why did you wear the collar? To hide your adam's apple? Also that headband doesn't really work, I'm sure you thought it made you look feminine but it kind of just looks gross. Again sorry.
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>>125761077
This is the kind of person defending this show, /co/
Take a good look.
This is the face of Lower Decks
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>>125761077
>>125761098
Fuck off back to >>/tv/
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>>125761066
*no interest

>>125761098
They are literally just posting like the average tranny obsessed /trek/ poster. Fuck off back to there by the way
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>>125761077
Projection, Only trannies like this trainwreck.
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>>125761130
But since you're a tranny and you hate it... seems trannies actually don't like LD. Which makes LDchads based and you mentally ill. Interesting.
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>thread is now /tv/
Abandon ship, Morty
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It's amazing how just a single /tv/ poster could poison the entire thread. Really makes you think.
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>>125761173
Two /tv/ posters.
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>>125761152
>LDChads
No such creature.
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>>125761184
True, more like Gigachads.
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>>125761173
>It's amazing how just a single /tv/ poster could poison the entire thread. Really makes you think.
Fucks are so toxic they actually got Trek banned from /tv/...
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>>125761181
This whole argument is two /tv/ posters arguing with each other because arguing to ruin otherwise on topic threads is the real goal.
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I swear I'm not a fan of the Vengeance design.

But I can't help it if it's literally one of the most powerful ships in the game.
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>>125761223
It's pretty easy to tell the difference
If someone is cracking Rick and Morty jokes and arguing about the show, they're from /co/ and are necessary counter autism to shippers
If they just abuse /pol/ buzzwords they're from /tv/ and need to go back to their containment
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>>125753652
>>125754087
How are the two plots going to interact this week? Is this the episode with chad Boimler and scorpion Tendi?
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>>125761258
Did you get the Parliament yet?
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>>125761217
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>>125754536
>Lore stuff was declassified while Mariner was on the Quito(S1E5)
I made an assumption here because according to the show, Mariner just learned that Data had a brother, but this was obviously years after TNG, so I'm assuming it was a classified thing. But wasnt he a major recurring villain? Why would they hide his identity?
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>>125761293
It was probably just an ad lib
Quaid and Newsome ad libbed most of the references in season 1, like name dropping Jellico
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>>125761258
How does the game justify JJ designs in the 25th century? Hell how does it justify 31st century ships in the 25th century?

>>125761271
This is true but if someone says pickle trek and uses the necessary reaction images they're a /tv/ tourist since that's where that forced meme started
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>>125761275
Maybe when it his the C-store and isn't in a FUCKING LOCKBOX. Also they kind of gave it so-so stats which means I would probably fiddle around with it a bit and then jump back on my dready.
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>>125761311
True but McMahan would remove Adlibs he didnt approve of. The only references that could truly slip past him are visual ones since he let's his artists have fun with those.
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It does suck that the only trek show currently on is marketed toward Gilbert Grape's brother.
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>>125761316
Any references to rick & morty is a /trek/ tourist and probably one in particular.
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>>125761316
>How does the game justify JJ designs in the 25th century? Hell how does it justify 31st century ships in the 25th century?
Money. Universe-class is stupid expensive to acquire and also one of the biggest if not THE biggest dick in the game.
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>>125761325
STO fans really need to send the developers a Pokemon Go letter from the community or raise a Battlefront 2 tier stink about it on social media until they're forced to change. Locking era appropriate ships from your main series behind lootboxes is an embarrassment
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>>125761325
>FUCKING LOCKBOX
Yikes. Parliament-class is supposed to be a run-of-the-mill ship.
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>>125761275
The Ship designed by a Woman is just a Mall with nacelles.
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>>125761345
The idea that McMahan is doing anything but writing part of the opener/finale and rubber stamping scripts is laughable
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>>125761325
If they gave the Luna Class tier capital ship so so stats then what the fuck are they going to do with the Cerritos?

>>125761387
That much I get, I mean does the story justify it or do they just not care because they'd be so rare onto be ignored
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>>125761311
Just rewatched the scene.
>Angie: Did you hear about the enterprise? Apparently Data has an evil twin brother who teamed up with the borg
>Mariner: What? its like a new thing every week with those guys

The ad libs usually come when theyre listing things, or commenting on how similar their situation is with a more famous situation.
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>>125761348
>Only one person ever mentions that the art style and writing is similar to Rick and Morty
That's just delusional, Morty
Which is only ok if you're young black and female
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>>125761447
>art style and writing is similar to Rick and Morty
Based retard.
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>>125761446
It is lazy memberberries.
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>>125761443
>I mean does the story justify it or do they just not care because they'd be so rare onto be ignored
Neither. They just show up and I guess if you wanna headcanon it you can say it was acquired through some trandimensional Q shit but otherwise it's just your ship and that's that.

I mean you can fly just about anything now regardless of faction so all bets are off.
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>>125761447
Hey look, he's back. HE is back.
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>>125761466
I don't know what's funnier
That you're trying at all to deny the similarity when it's part of why the show was greenlit, or that you'd go to the effort of finding one of the only straight-on perspectives in the show to build your "proof"
Probably the latter since going to that effort means you know a 3/4 profile would be too similar
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>>125761548
We've been over this way too many times. The writing is nothing like Rick and Morty.
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>>125761588
Anon we just went over this
>>125761271

I am the hero /co/ needs
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>>125761588
The dumb brony is one of ours unfortunately.
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>>125761624
Fuck off, horsefucker
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>>125761423
Pretty sure McMahan talks about the production stuff he does. Hes talked about how he voiced all the characters in an episode for the stpryboarders to work with

>>125761496
It makes sense to just ignore it, though some story thing would be cool. I guess they dont want to ruin the headcanon

>>125761548
>>125761588
Posting that show means that this is our own resident schizo actually
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>>125761661
In case it wasn't painfully obvious I was pointing out the pony reaction image poster is mad nobody gives two fucks about his dumb show and sometimes posts in these threads. He's not a /tv/ tourist but maybe he can fuck off there too.
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>>125761588
Stop giving him (You)s, simple. Typically, you engage in discussions to have your views challenged. But this contrarian faggot just does it for attention. I wasted way too much time addressing his every criticism only for him to brush it off. He's way too full of himself to even consider your opinion.
If he wants to treat 4chan as his personal blog, let him.
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>>125761624
There's no need to be upset just because Dong and Cuck made a masterpiece that blows Lower Decks out of the water
You can still enjoy your shipping sitcom
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>>125761746
We don't come to Centaurworld threads to troll, so at least you could show us the same decency.
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>>125761746
>>125761733
A peace offering for your aching heart
This is what you want, isn't it?
This is what you come here for.
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>>125761773
It's cute that you'd cry about trolling over real criticism and jokes when about ten posts up you can see what real trolling is from stormfags
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>>125761733
It's called having an agenda. His agenda is literally personal. That's why he posts in all LD threads despite claiming to hate it. It's a mental illness at this point so you're better off just ignoring him.
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>>125761801
Ooh, an agenda! But which one?
My bet's on the gay agenda
They want to brainwash us into thinking Boimler should be with Rutherford! It's a false flag! Attica! ATTICA!
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>>125761134
I still wonder, after all the effort Janeway put into making the crew still feel like they were part of Starfleet even in the Delta Quadrant, she never ordered the uniforms updated.
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>>125761900
I mean to be fair, they didn't find out about the new uniforms until much later when they already started communicating with Starfleet and trying to figure out a way home. And by then what was really the point, right?
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What's going on with /tv/ is that there's this one guy who doesn't even watch LD but loves shitposting with it, like posting smug Mariner/Tendi reaction images while saying all past Trek shows are bad. He's very dedicated.
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>>125760295
I'm thoroughly convinced the whole smiling Koala that holds the universe bit was just Q or someone of equal power just fucking with the guy
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>>125761936
/tv/ is for schizos
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>>125761952
wouldnt Q have let someone know? just to fuck with them and test how they will react?
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>>125761936
Can you link an example? Or are you in fact a /tv/ tourist who won't go away?
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>>125761797
Bold coming from a fag who whined about getting "dehumanized" whenever he had his shitty takes challenged. You want to critique something? Grow some balls and accept that your views are gonna get scrutinized.

4chan is not your hugbox, you fucking crybaby. If you want to share your shitty takes with the world, accept that you're gonna get BTFO'd. Whenever someone proves you wrong you just go "nah, that doesn't count" or you just stop responding altogether. Fucking coward.
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>>125762017
Go in the archive and search "TNGeezers"
Why are you being so defensive? I don't have a problem with LD, I have a problem when someone's been spamming antagonistic shit for over a year because of some weird vendetta he has
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>>125761934
>>125761900
The constant wardrobe problems leading to mismatched uniforms is one thing
But keeping mismatched uniforms in an animated setting?
That's an autism tickle.
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>>125762079
>I have a problem when someone's been spamming antagonistic shit for over a year
kek the irony
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JELICHO DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>125761801
It's actually very nice seeing how genuinely happy Mariner is right here. Those grey ops must have been great
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>>125760747
the irony of a /tv/fag telling people on /co/ to not shit up other boards
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>>125762027
I hate this phrase and everyone who uses it, but it's never been so appropriate
Rent Free.
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>>125762151
>NO YOU CANNOT SAY THIS SHOW IS BAD LEAVE NOW
Who do you think you are? Imagine having such an inflated ego to think your shitty opinion matters. Okay, you think it's bad show. Explain why. But then be prepared to have your opinion challenged.
People have been very patient with you. I personally explained to you the differences between the writing for Lower Decks and Rick and Morty many times. You never even bothered responding.
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>>125762148
She honestly looks so innocently elated and overjoyed for that brief moment, I was so happy for her. I literally don't think we've ever seen it since, all her other laughs are sadistic.
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>>125762227
If he responded, he'd finally have to come to terms with his own mental illness.
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>>125762227
> Okay, you think it's bad show. Explain why. But then be prepared to have your opinion challenged.
Is this...is this not what you think has been going on in every single thread since the show began?
What alternate reality are you living in, and why is it so emotionally invested in threads on an underwater basket weaving forum?
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>>125761936
I beleive this.

>>125762135
I also beleive this
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>>125762279
kek nice catch
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When will Mariner go full psycho (again (again))
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>>125762354
When she'll see Boimler dancing with Jen in EP6.
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>>125762354
Better question: when will Mariner act like an officer
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You remember how Jet Manhaver drowned when Boimler came back? Thought it might have been a jealousy thing but he made the same frown when Mariner declared herself the unofficial leader of Beta Shift. is he up to something?
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>>125762399
When she's a hologram based on her private logs.
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>>125762426
I guess he was hoping to score. He kept telling Mariner to get over Boimler. When he realized that it's no use he left them and joined his buddies.
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>>125762426
He's just a Boimler who's more firm in his belief in rules and the system. He isnt endeared by Mariner like Boimler is and it causes friction. At the same time he probably feels bad they drop him once Boimler is back. Like outside Barb he has few friends.
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>>125761934
No, they knew as early as season 4 when the Doc went on a mission to the USS Prometheus and met Andy Dick.
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>>125761900
The most common excuse I've heard is that it would be too much of a power drain, but even when their power problems were at their greatest after they first entered the Delta Quadrant with no hope of resupply they were able to create uniforms for all the Maquis. They are also able to repair and replace uniforms as needed.

Plus no matter what the real reason is meta. It's not like the writers and producers were sitting around wringing their hands in frustration because Voyager's power issues were keeping them from updating the uniforms. For whatever reason the powers that be behind the show felt it was their look. Plus it probably worked for them once the uniforms were updated. Gave them a sense of being out of place and step from the rest of Starfleet, which they were.
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>>125761746
>>125761548
I kinda wanted to watch Centaurworld, but you single-handedly killed my interest.
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>>125762726
Good, stay out of our threads
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>>125762426
Jet never even had a chance. Mariner and Boimler are soulmates.
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>>125762736
You stay out of ours and we'll have a deal.
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>>125759312
He did. When they detect his ship there are no life signs.
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>>125762770
Thing is I've watched Lower Decks
And you've probably enjoyed and responded to posts of mine that weren't critical hyperbole
If you watched Centaurworld and had an opinion on it I'm sure they'd love to hear it, good or not

But as it stands, fuck off we're full
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>>125762682
We need more starbase and space dock shots in the shows. It was always cool when Lower Decks cuts to Douglas Station and I'm surprised it hasnt showed up at all this season. Starbase 25 was nice at least
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>>125762682
Family reunion
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>>125762541
>No, they knew as early as season 4 when the Doc went on a mission to the USS Prometheus and met Andy Dick.
Yeah, that's when they reestablished contact with Starfleet.
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>>125763056
>>125762541
I can't see Andy Dick without picturing Jon Lovitz kicking the shit out of him.
It makes me smile.
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>>125760952
Love the show but the first 5 min can be described perfectly with this post. It gets definitely better so just keep watching.
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>>125763056
For a given value of reestablished contact. They were able to communicate for a few episodes thanks to an ancient Hirogen network, then Janeway predictably blew it all to hell. It wasn't until season 6 when Barclay figured out how to reestablish permanent contact, albeit not the best resolution and with long delays between comm windows.
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>>125763204
In what little contact they had before reestablishing contact, I seriously doubt the topic of uniforms came up.
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>>125762668
>NX class is barely 7ft tall at the rim of the saucer
Somehow this feels wrong despite making a lot of sense. Also
>TNG era crew digging out the first Enterprise's sister ship
Is there context here or is this just some nifty concept art?
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>>125755547
I feel that man's pain.
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>a bouncer takes a moment to comfort Mariner even though it's not part of his job
And you still insist Lower Decks isn't Star Trek.
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>>125763368
I honestly think the people are still too big there. And I think it was just a fanfic about the Columbia ending up crashing on a desert planet and geting rediscovered much later.
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>>125763237
What, you mean that Starfleet would order a uniform change? I don't see why. But they are clearly aware of it. On top of that, yes, it's strange that in all of the intervening years nobody brought it up, if only as a means for the crew to still feel connected to the Alpha Quadrant by matching looks with them. I mean the Doctor can trivially change his own apparel for a proper visual example, though I'm sure they had other examples in the data packets Starfleet sent.
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>>125763368
Just some Ships of the Ling art.
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>>125763687
Uniforms are replicated like everything else for the crew. Changing the design would literally be as easy as pressing a button
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>>125763687
Maybe because they felt there were more important things to allocate resources towards.
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>>125763637
I mean if everything was actually to scale the NX-01 would be like five times smaller here >>125762682. Probably just the artist playing with ascetics
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>>125763818
We went over this in a previous thread, there's multiple pieces of evidence to indicate replicators won't produce uniforms.
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>>125764093
What? That Garak can and has made uniforms? They have an entire department just for producing historical garb as needed, they can fucking replicate simple clothing. Unsurprisingly for some it falls under the same category as food. Some people just like the real thing. They feel it's more special, or just better somehow. Go figure.

In all their travels I'm sure they could find a world with cheap but effective tailors, if they wanted to. Or just have the holodeck produce a small army of Betsy Rosses and tell them to get to work while Neelix stands behind them with a whip.
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>>>/tv/156324723
Can someone explain why /co/ gets fairly normal LD threads that keep to themselves but /tv/ gets this schizo spammer?
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>>125764230
>What? That Garak can and has made uniforms? They have an entire department just for producing historical garb as needed
I didn't say clothing, I said UNIFORMS. And Garak isn't a replicator.
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>>125764323
You can't explain mental illness, anon. You can only go to their house and beat them into a coma.
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>>125764323
>why is a board that's basically /pol/ but with coomer threads worse than one of the least populated boards on 4chan
Gee it's a mystery
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>>125764387
I didn't say Garak was a replicator, and also uniforms ARE clothing.
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>>125764534
oh god it's a dumbdumb
all rectangles aren't squares
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>>125764399
>I'm this random twitter cosplayer! This is me!
This is indeed mental illness and it's been going on for over a year.
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>>125764603
Hey, I'm not going to kinkshame you if you want to pretend that all Starfleet officers are naked 26 hours a day.
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>>125764323
The entire board is brainless shitposting anon. The /trek/ spammers are the ones being on topic there

>>125761275
That Parliament ship size doesnt seem right given what we know about the size of the Cerritos
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>>125764706
California-class is 535.2 meters long, while Parliament is 641 meters long.
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>>125764603
If clothing is square then uniforms are still squares, anon, because there is no sense where uniforms fail to still be defined as clothing.
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>>125764706
In NuTrek every ship has to be gigantic for some reason. In STD they fly around in ships that dwarf the Galaxy class in size and volume from 100 years later.
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>>125764706
They've been a bit fast and loose with the sizes but we definitely know the Cali-class is smaller than the Parliament.
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>>125764800
>for some reason
TOS ships were way too small. Someone actually looked at how wide the neck would be on the original Enterprise based on provided figures and it was basically so narrow to the point of being impractical. The ships absolutely need to be larger.
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>>125764800
The ship sizes fit in with the era in Lower Decks at least. It's fucking ridiculous the Discovery is still bigger than most of the ships shown here in the late 24th century

>>125764764
>>125764803
I get that, what I mean is the Parilament ships look like they should be at least as big as the Galaxy or slightly bigger, I dont know the official Galaxy size out of my head though, Im just talking about based on looking at the 3 ships compared to each other
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>>125764765
>because there is no sense where uniforms fail to still be defined as clothing.
I NEVER SAID THEY DID YOU
STUPID
FUCK
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>>125764886
I don't think we can trust the official dimensions for the Cali-class, it should probably be much smaller.
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>>125764886
In the TNG era though science or short range mission classes such as Cheyenne, New Orleans, Akira, Norway etc. were much smaller than the large Galaxy, Nebula and Ambassador classes.
California class would appear to be one of those similar small ships but they made it "officially" ginormous.
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>>125761443
>That much I get, I mean does the story justify it
There's time travel and Mirror universe involved. Hell, you can start your Fed character as a TOS era ensign that gets pulled 200 years into the future at the end of their tutorial. Stands to reason ships from further in the timeline would show up
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>>125764920
This from the anon who failed understanding context so hard he thought a post claimed Garak was a replicator. No shock you're this idiotic that you either didn't understand what the "all rectangles aren't squares" saying means, or you're so desperately backpedaling you're just making things worse for yourself. Amusing, regardless, but not all that conducive to a decent thread.
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>>125764921
I think the official dimensions are off (even the one in the new Trek manual has it as being 700+ meters and McMahan went on twitter to say it was a typo). These images come from people using his statements while he was setting the record straight And that the S1 window sized were a bit off as it relates to using it to tell the size. Until word comes out with different info I think I'll have to take these as word. Let me see if I can find the tweets/discussion

>>125765032
I think they wanted it to be big since it's supposed to be a tow truck with a giant warp core. It at least has a story/use reason for it. Though looking at my own image the Titan is a high level ship and yet smaller than the Galaxy, so no reason the Parilament cant be as well
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>>125765111
It would make more sense for the California and Parliament to be more in the 300-500 meter range instead of 600+
It doesn't have to be JJTrek where ordinary starships are 2 miles long with crews of thousands.
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>>125760221
This.

Becky/Tawny is cute and her slightly bitch voice make me Jack hard.
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>>125764921
>California class: 532 meters long, height at 121 meters
>Galaxy Class: 641 meters long, 145 meters high
I'll be damned

>>125765032
Cali calls ships are meant to be the workhorses of Starfleet. Makes sense you'd want them big to haul what have you around the quadrant
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>>125765111
Still, the Galaxy was basically known as the largest ship of its time by a pretty wide margin. It honestly makes more sense if the Cali started getting pumped out en masse after the Dominion War when Starfleet had to quickly replace lost ships by just rolling simple but reliable designs off the assembly line, with the Parliament coming a little later after the Cali had provided the necessary stopgap.
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>>125762747
I'm telling you guys, Jet's a Cardie spy in deep cover.
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>>125764921
>>125765111
>>125765229
I think the area where the Cerritos loses size is internal volume

>>125765465
Yeah, I'd love to know when exactly these ships started coming into commission. Though I think the Pariliament must have come first, makes more sense to make a workhorse version of a fancy new ship that's an upscaled version of a workhorse
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We need more Romulan ships.
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>>125765058
doublebaka. try reading better
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>>125765560
Hard to make new ships when your empire is collapsed and your homeword has become a nebula.
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>>125765560
ahehe
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>>125765318
>Tawny is cute
She really is >>125758622
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>>125765560
It's funny how little Romulan stuff we get when they're supposed to be as big as the Federation. But then most big bads are someone else.
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>>125765688
I just want to see the V-30.
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>>125765639
>>125765688
STO established the Romulans were effectively split in two after the supernova wasted their homeworld: democratic Romulan Republic and authoritarian continuation of the Empire led by Tasha Yar's half-blood rape spawn from alternate timeline shenanigans. Republic is allied with the Feds in an attempt to get the Romulan species back on it's feet while the Empire continues the grand tradition of being utter dicks to everyone
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>>125765645
>poor little Bird of Prey
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>>125765515
>Cardassians still using spies
To do what? See how better off everyone but them is after they got absolutely wrekt during the Dominion War?
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>>125764886
>>125764921
>>125765032
>>125765111
>>125765229
>>125765454
>>125765518
Last few episodes have done a good job at establishing size. When Mariner rammed the shuttle to cover for Tendi we saw the Ceritos is basically a 3-4 story office building on stilts
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>>125765887
They're Cardies, you think losing a war would really be enough to stop them being arseholes?
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>>125766052
true, though there most likely are some decks that dont go all the way to the edges of the ship here
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>>125754536
Good theory. Did you invent it or did you see it on another site?
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>>125766119
No but you'd think losing 800 MILLION civilians in like two days would humble them, at the very least
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>>125766445
What a fucking lost of live I've just started ds9 so I'm baffled by that
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>>125766445
>Remember the 800 gorillion!
>Cardassia si the Federations closest ally!
My only regret is the Dominion didn't make all the bloody Cardies extinct.
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so the Dominion are from the Gamma Quadrant? Do we know anything about that place other than that? Also can we expect aprodigy to help round out the Delta?
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In the previous thread, people were talking about a live-action episode and if they do, the production needs to hire the team who created the Sisters of makeup for the Doctor Who episodes New Earth and Gridlock to depict Dr. T'ana.

https://www.google.im/search?q=novice+hame&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjX-Pr85-byAhUPWDABHbjBBlgQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1920&bih=903
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>>125767133
I'm still pissed at people who think Tawny Newsome doesn't look like Mariner.
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>>125751375
>A bajoran
>GOOD AT HAND-TO-HAND COMBAT

I knew this was a show full of cringy and retarded humor, but C'MON.
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>>125766532
Cardies had a spacefaring empire that rivaled the likes of the Klingons, and the second they realized they were getting shafted and switched sides in the war, the Dominion went full scorched Earth on them. Whole planets were bombarded from orbit and even Cardassia itself was nearly wiped out to the last man.

The Founders are serious do-not-fuck-withs
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>>125766664
Dominion pretty much has the entire quadrant on lockdown since they're vehemently xenophobic and have a compulsion of either control or destroy any species they encounter.
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>>125765518
>>125766052
Yeah, the Cali might be 5/6ths the size of a Galaxy by overall external measurement, but in term of usable internal volume it's probably less than half the size of a Galaxy's saucer section.
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>Just watched episode 2

Riker is running a band of roughnecks, isn't he? RIker's Roughnecks.
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>>125767399
Cardassia Prime lost 800 million of its population, but we still have to assume that it normally has a population of billions.
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>>125767630
>I fought at Wolf 359 and I say KILL EM ALL!!

>>125767665
Loosing roughly double the entire population of the United States in a single day is still devastating regardless of how many are left alive after the fact
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>>125767399
>The Founders are serious do-not-fuck-withs
And yet they lost. Curious
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>>125766443
I've seen each individual statement made over several sites and threads, and figured this is the only way they could outdo the season 1 finale
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>>125767901
>And yet they lost.

did they?

seems to me that they're all ready for round 2 while everyone else is fucked.
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>>125767991
Their military was basically destroyed, they know humanity can wipe them out with a plague, and Odo is basically in charge now. They want nothing to do with another war.
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>>125767901
After very nearly beating everyone in the Alpha quadrant. If Sisko hadn't pulled his trick with Garak to convince the Romulans to declare war on the Dominion the Federation and Klingons would both have been soundly beaten. Hell, even the final victory over Cardassia was a Pyrrhic one for the Allies.

The only reason the Founders surrendered was because they were dying from a virus and Odo offered them a cure in exchange for gtfoing from the Alpha quadrant
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>>125767991
If you take STO as canon, they completely fucked themselves over, rewoke the Hur'Q, got fucked over even harder, came to the Alpha quadrant begging for help and basically became the Federation's bitch after the near total collapse of Gamma Quadrant
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>>125768024
You forget they still have an entire quarter of the galaxy under their thumb on the other side of the wormhole. There was really nothing stopping them from calling back home for reinforcements and starting thing back up again
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>>125767171
None of the cast look like their characters, get overselves, gawwwd!

>>125767901
Sci-fi rule of thumb - don't fuck with Humans.
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>>125768170
Did you forget how they did just that and half their fleet got erased by The Prophets?
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>>125768230
Jem'Hadar printer go brrrr
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>>125768230
The Prophets actually stepping in to help was a one time only deal that took a lot of convincing from Sisko to achieve. They couldn't be relied on to keep the wormhole Dominion free.

Also they can just rebuild all those ships and reclone all those troops lost because, again, they have whole solar systems worth of resources at their disposal
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>>125767461
Funny how unexplored it is, unless Discovery in season 3 is in the Gamma and we dont know (Im sure they also dont know)
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>>125768409
>Funny how unexplored it is
Honestly it's a matter of scale. For the most part they play the science correctly and show just how fucking huge just our one single galaxy is. The Enterprise-D could hit warp 9 point something, which is several hundred times faster than light, and even it would take weeks to cross the entirety of Federation space.

Voyager was stuck on pretty much the opposite end of the galaxy from where the Dominion was and they calculated it would take 70+ years to make it back to the edge of Fed territory, and that's if they stayed at maximum warp the entire time with zero issues along the way
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>>125768596
>Andromeda
Has Trek ever attempted to set a story there? The Milky Way alone is a smorgasbord of civilizations, planet eating entities and full fledged gods,, I shudder to think what the galaxy next door holds
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>>125769326
I wrote a pitch for a Star Trek series set in the Andromeda galaxy once.
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>S01E05 was all about Mariner falling in love with Boimler (He's my dork)
>S02E05 was all about Boimler falling in love with Mariner (You're my number one)
It's like poetry.
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>>125769326
TOS had an episode about it and apparently nothing lives there since it's full of radiation for some reason. Only known species from there came over on generation ships and attempted to hijack the Enterprise
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>>125768123
You forgot his getting the Prophets to refuse passage to their reinforcements, which not only saved him, DS9, and Bajor, but the entire Alpha Quadrant. The Federation barely won when the Dominion was forced to rely on local resources.

Of course the Dominion got its own lucky breaks. Dukat putting the whammy on the Prophets does seem to have (briefly) turned the tide in the war. The Romulans penchant for duplicity nearly caused a row with the Federation over Bajor. And, of course, the Breen saved their asses.
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>>125769674
True.
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>>125755363
All the borg stuff (especially 7) was pretty good, that should have been a full damn season and have the android plot just go fuck off forever.
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>>125764613
WTF?!
Why american women are this crazy?
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>>125768209
I gladly bang Tendi and the girl who made her voice
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>>125771703
>All the borg stuff (especially 7) was pretty good
lol no
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>>125768596
Yeah, its weird just how much of the Alpha Quadrant is still pretty much a mystery
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>>125760624

Would he even need to plan to manipulate them? He could just say he's the leader now and they probably would have accepted it.
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>Shax says when you die you first go to a black mountain
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>>125772803
In fairness, that is literally why Starfleet exists. Shit's just big, yo
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>>125773208
True
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At what hour EST does the episode drop on Paramount Plus and thrust?
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>>125776096
3AM EST I believe.
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>>125764613
I dont understand why people think this is weird?

>>125776096
Midnight I beleive, but that's McMahan's midnight so it may be a slightly different time, it's 1 am for me

>>125773208
Yeah, but after TNG it feels like most Trek is more interested in fleshing out the place we've already been in than going anywhere new
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imagine thinking Boimler wants to do anything sexual to Mariner, hes too busy counting cards and sucking off to any officer
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This episode seems like the first time we're getting a Mariner/Tendi/Rutherford plot, while Boimler is off on his own.
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>>125777468
I saw that post. Mixing your uniforms is a terrible idea when you're mixing it with the era where the division colors are switched.
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>>125777149
>Hey, Boims, I snuck a mattress into the crawlspace under the plasma conduit transfer body, there should be just enough room for you to get my ankles over your shoulders...
>Are you kidding?
>I'll be wearing my skant...and nothing else...
>No, no, no, I don't have time for this. I've got to reinstall half the positronic chips on deck 2, reset the fusion control oscillators in the secondary backups to the emergency generators, and I promised Tendi I'd help her install a new biobed in sickbay. Whatever you planned isn't going happen today.
>You can't just reschedule me seducing you for a quickie while on the job!
>Uggh, fine. Will you still be horny and pantsless around 1900 hours?
>NO!
>...
>Yes.
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Can someone remind me what time the episode drops?
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>>125777786
This is how i would imagine there sexual life would be, Mariner being a sex crazy maniac and boimler compromissing a lot
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>>125768596
Even this mostly empty map significantly scales up the size of the known galactic powers so they don't seem so tiny compared to the actual size of the galaxy. It would take a fast ship years to from one end of the Federation to the other if it were that big, and it's not something that can be hand waved since two entire Star Trek series are based on the notion that it takes years to cross thousands of light years.
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>>125765560
>>125765645
Do you really want them to do more after the shitty Picard designs?
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>>125778456
Doug Drexler is back working on Picard
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>>125778123
>Heyyyyyyy Mariner, it looks like we're all alone in the sonic showers; why don't you and I just sneak into this empty space between us an-
>Nope. Not doing it in the showers.
>I went ahead and checked, everyone's cleared out we should be good for about 15 minutes. C'mon.
>Sonic showers are off limits, thems the rules.
>I- seriously? In the mess hall when it's closed for delousing is fine, up against the windows when the docking station crew can see is fine, Jen's bunk is fine, but not the sonic showers?
>A girl's got to have some boundaries. Now hurry up, you're late for your shift.
>...Am I in the Mirror universe?
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>>125778123
Boimler has a dirty mind. They’re both horny, Mariner is just more obvious about it. That being said, I think she would be more timid when it comes to sexuality.
She talks big game, but probably isn’t that experienced.
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>>125760531
>Hyper-charged flawless routine that leaves Jennifer swooning and breathless
>Mariner is about to go postal
>Boimler is actually oblivious and just miffed that they lost to the Shaxs/T'ana pair that didn't even finish the routine before running off to bang
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>>125777149
Bruh the first girl who showed him affection in years he was all over like Riker on a chair and snuck off to a planet imploder to fuck her.
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>>125751375
They can't do evil version mirror universe can they?

I thought the show was long past DS9 times.
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>>125778824
>Jen's bunk
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>>125779574
It's only a few years after Nemesis.
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>>125777556
She's probably playing as one of the TOS era people who got sent to the future and cannot go back due to timeline shit. It's fine.
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>>125779601
The Terran empire was long dead before Nemesis. Not sure if bajorans are still bad guys.
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>>125778051
Right now!
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>>125779657
>The Terran empire was long dead before Nemesis.
Didn't stop DS9
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>>125779673
They were either rebels or slaves in DS9. I think it was just Worf, Garek and Kira who were evil in the mirror universe.
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It's up
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>>125779623
No I get that, I just mean the division colors are different and Im not sure if Im supposed to be going off what it meant in TOS or what it means now
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>>125779718
I don't know if making the Pakled's LD's big villains is brilliant or stupid, or both.
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>>125779735
It's still heavily implied that there's some bigger force behind them.
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>>125779735
It's brilliant, in making a menacing villain that isnt so bad that it ruins the idea that te 2380's were relatively peaceful.
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Hey Beckett, I'm touching your boy.
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>>125779880
I literally felt it when she was touching him... it was like she was touching me..
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Boimler would make a great captain.
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>>125779991
He's not gonna fuck you Mariner.
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Best Tendi
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>>125780047
Sweet Tendi
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>>125780042
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>>125780075
kek
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>>125780075
Mariner stop using Bajoran artifacts to shitpost into the past.
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>>125779880
Jen isn't the one Becky needs to worry about.
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fuck Armus
he had it coming
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I love this show.
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Okay, that was hilarious.
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>>125780291
Holy... can't believe I missed that.
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I really like that Boimler's character development's coming into play now. He didn't entertain Casey's bullshit for even a second.
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>>125780325
They're very clearly setting him up to lead. He's inspiring officers wherever he goes.
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T-T
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OH NO NO NO NO NO MARINER BROS
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Tendi is going to win the Boimler bowl
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>>125780337
Oh, definitely. That whole bit in the hallway was just hammering in how Boimler had ACTUALLY displayed leadership qualities, whereas Casey had done jack squat.
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>>125780394
Captain Boimler and XO Mariner endgame
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>>125780366
>>125780382
>>125780396
I don't think that's really what they're going for but it would be interesting if Tendi and Boimler got closer and it pissed off Mariner.
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>>125776342
>I dont understand why people think this is weird?
Engaging in media in an unironic fashion is now cringe and uncool
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>>125780502
Last time someone saved Tendi's life, she made out with him.
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>>125779657
Bajorans are always bad guys.
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>>125780382
>>125780426
qt
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Feels more like they might be setting him up with this new ensign
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>>125780532
That's Jen's girlfriend.
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>>125780075
This is actually great anon
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>>125780382
Mariner, Tendi, Jen, Jen's girlfriend, Barnes... leave some for the rest of us!
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>>125780291
Every single Kzinti in TAS had canonically bad posture, amazing

>>125780465
I didnt think we'd ever actually get a voice for the Kzinti, Im so happy this show's side characters matter. It was great to get a full Jen episode too

>>125780657
Ultimate Chad Boimler move would be for us to find out Jet wasnt jealous of Boimler in episode 2, he was jealous of Mariner
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>>125780532
>>125780543
I think her name might be Ensign Castro
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>>125780672
>I didnt think we'd ever actually get a voice for the Kzinti, Im so happy this show's side characters matter. It was great to get a full Jen episode too
This. They've started fleshing out background characters while Discovery is still struggling with its goddamn bridge crew. How utterly embarrassing.
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>>125780709
If you asked me the name of that guy in the back I couldnt tell you. Or anything he's done.

But now I can tell you stuff about all 4 of these characters just from the fact that they formed a group to help each other rank up. And that's before the little details in the episode come into account
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>>125780709
That's why LD feels more lived in, the focus frequently shifts so different characters get to come into play.
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>>125780672
>Jet wanted Boimler for himself
You could look at it like that if you want.
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Awehh, look at him waving goodbye to Mariner.
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>>125780771
>>125780783
And then she was fully supportive of him and he pulled away for his own reasons. Damn this show just flipped a switch and became amazing in episode 7 and almost never looked back. Maybe we all went to The Farm
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>>125780694
That would make her the person that was "barely on" the Enterprise.
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>>125780842
>DON'T TALK TO ME I'M PISSED OFF
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>>125780694
Boimler seriously scored points with all the ladies this episode. All but Becky.
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>>125780291
>>125780303
>>125780672
short rundown on the Kzinti?
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>>125780794
They're definitely setting up this inner conflict for Boimler. He's starting to fall for Mariner, but at the same time he's trying to pursue his career, and he doesn't quite yet know how to feel. But in EP7 we've learned that Mariner is willing to rank up for a person she cares about, so I'm sure they'll be fine in the end.

And I'll admit, it was sweet when he gave her that "Don't worry, I'll see you soon" look. He'll never leave without saying goodbye again; even if it's just for a short while.
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>>125780938
Goofy TAS species.
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>>125780975
fuck you
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Did this guy get a name yet?
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>>125780709
Yuck are those the new uniforms, man Discovery always seems to find new ways to disappoint. This plus the ugly ship and now Captain Mike sucking up even more screen time. I don't think I'll even be able to hate watch this show anymore. Thanks for LD Universe.
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>>125780938
>Kzinti
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Kzinti
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>>125780905
>Chadward Boimler
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>>125780694
Where did you find that out?
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>>125781098
Troll face
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>>125780905
Was Boimler wearing pads under the shirt or was it all just a matter of posture?
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>>125781142
Padded uniform, definitely.
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>>125781108
guest voice credits for the red shirts + imdb
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>>125779880
Becky needs to put her foot down or up Jen's ass.
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I'm just going to say this to the hovering creators and writers of the show who are doubtlessly reading these threads: stop making the characters reference older shows. You're bad at it - they're overt, unfunny, and they come off as very unnatural dialogue. The show is funny enough without these hamfisted callbacks, so just do your job and write a good script as if it were any other show.

It's Star Trek. We all know it's Star Trek: you don't have to remind us every five minutes.
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>>125781222
No
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>>125781222
Armus had it coming.
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>>125781222
fuck you bitch

bring on the references especially when they're part of the episodes story
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>>125781243
Just stop having the characters constantly talk about Picard. Stop treating the other shows like they're shows, either they're characters in a fictional universe or this a metahumor show. Pick one and stop trying to have it both ways, it doesn't work.

This show can do references really well, they just go overboard a lot.
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>>125781257
Nah
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>>125781257
Star Trek being meta is okay, these legacy characters are like rock stars to these lower deckers.
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>>125781257
Nah fuck you. I don't care if you zoomers hate nostalgiab8 because all your nostalgia is garbage. I want moar references.
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>>125781268
>zoomers
I watched TNG when it was on the air.
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I though the prank call to armus was ok
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>>125781296
Tasha is finally avenged.
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>>125781296
AN INTERESTING NOTION WHICH I DO NOT SHARE
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>>125781304
Hey Armus! You look like a big bag of crap!
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>>125781222
Fuck you I like them. Especially as a guy who has seen a good amount of Trek (TNG, DS9, VOY, and like half of OS.), But not all It. I love the references I get as those jokes land 90% of the time. I like the ones I don't get as well because I get to look them up and learn about cool lore I didn't know about.
I will not stop liking things you don't.
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>>125781287
I watched it before you.
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>>125781346
Based
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>>125781346
>I love the references
I didn't say stop, I just don't want Freeman to say "That's outrageous" when Okona was DJ'ing a party. It was a bad joke. This show can be better.

>>125781356
That statement is illogical.
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>>125781380
>I just don't want Freeman to say "That's outrageous" when Okona was DJ'ing a party. It was a bad joke
Are you fucking kidding. Are you just a humourless freak?
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>>125781390
Yes?
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>>125781380
Saying that's outrageous made sense in-universe anyway so it wasn't really forced
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>>125780938
Catlike alien species that Larry Niven introduced into Star Trek when he wrote for TAS, he later wrote several stories about them set in his own universe.
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>>125781450
I want this.
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>>125781380
>I just don't want Freeman to say "That's outrageous" when Okona was DJ'ing a party.
That was subtle as hell. Didn't even notice the reference until someone reminded me. Saying something is outrageous isn't out of place at all.
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>>125781488
Yeah, I didn't notice it at first either. But I'm a dummy so...
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>>125781002
Ensign Hairy Kzin
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Still having abandonment issues, huh.
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>>125780938
Some of the worst space-assholes in all of science fiction.
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>>125764886
I was trying to write up a defense of Discovery, but I can't. I hate the show and I hate that ugly fucking design.
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>>125765639
>Hard to make new ships when your empire is collapsed and your homeword has become a nebula.
Why do they have to continue with this shit? It's fucking stupid.
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>>125765639
I genuinely don't understand how losing a single planet, even the homeworld, was enough to make the Romulan Empire collapse. So fucking stupid
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>>125776342
>Yeah, but after TNG it feels like most Trek is more interested in fleshing out the place we've already been in than going anywhere new
That was the entire point of Voyager and it failed completely. Hell, that was the original point of TNG and they shifted gears.
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>>125760295
Is the Koala Who Knows the canon over-deity in Star Trek now?
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>>125781653
Their entire political system was based on political intrigue, top down enforced orthodoxy, and a paranoid police state. Authoritarian regimes have fallen for much smaller reasons than losing a capital.
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>>125781653
Losing the center of power with the senate and all is a prime chance for disgregation
The Hellenic Empire split into 4 as soon as Alexander died
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do you think shes into racial play?

like either being a dominant pirate queen OR roleplaying as a submissive slave girl
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>>125781450
Eh. I like the t-shirt from the actual episode better.
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do you guys think allfather michael would like LD?

i can see rich being okay with it as a lighthearted non-canon thing, hell maybe jay can actually (even just as an ironic hipster thing) enjoy something trek related
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>>125782030
We'll never know. And that's a shame. There's a lot to discuss when it comes to Lower Decks, far more than with Discovery and Picard. I don't care whether they'd hate it or love it, I just want someone to assess this show based on its merits.
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>>125782030
This guy is allergic to cartoons.
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>>125782104
>watches Rick and Morty
>does voice acting for cartoons
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About to watch this week's episode
Last week's episode was pretty awful, especially the doopler plot where a diplomat who magically breaks conservation of matter when embarrassed is being transferred without the crew understanding how to treat him or how his duplication works. The episode before that was the worst episode of the series, having tons of pointless violence on top of an outright idiot plot on top of glorifying criminal animal sanctuaries like the one run by Tiger King

Let's see if they can do any better, it'd be hard to do worse.
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I love the cat
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>>125782030
According to Jay they watched part of one episode, shut it off, and have given it no thought since.
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>>125782263
I bet he just gave up at the trailer
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>>125782270
Either way I doubt very much that Mike and Jay would like the show. It's pretty dumb and inconsistent and that would be an endless font of annoyance for them.

You think the resident autists get mad about shit like warping in right next to another ship or sensors not existing for the plot to happen? You ain't seen nothin.
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>>125781814
Could have been the Q Continuum fucking with the kid as an ascended being initiation prank.
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>>125782253
>cold open is Pakled homeworld
Pakleds are nomadic
I am already mad.
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>>125781942
She said using the Orion dom voice made her uncomfortable so I'd guess she's a sub.
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>>125782347
Every species has a homeworld.
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>>125782348
>she's a sub
If anyone's a sub, it's probably Mariner.
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>>125782113
If he's such an expert, why is he so chicken to review animation?
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>>125782408
Out of principle I suppose.
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>>125782435
Sounds mighty pretentious. Not even Siskel & Ebert look down their noses at cartoons.
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>>125782492
>pretentious
All "critics" are pretentious. It takes blood, sweat and tears to actually make something. To critique all you need is a microphone and some egotism.
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>>125782522
Yes they are, but most media critics these days are also whores for views and don't draw the line on what they review.
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>>125782560
When it comes to RLM, I think they stated on multiple occasions that animation is not their area of expertise.
That being said, they could still talk about Lower Decks.
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Very little to pick apart this week because most of the runtime was random violence against the main cast, though to be fair this time it was (mostly) cartoony violence instead of goring and head-eating.
Everything about the Pakled story was awful. Everything. It was straight up Rick and Morty. Them even having a home planet with a government makes no sense considering the whole point is that they're roaming thieving nomads. The whole thing with a resistance leader killing the emperor and becoming emperor and then already knowing about the plan (because apparently every pakled on the planet knows the plan despite them all being functionally retarded) was just ridiculous.

Also if these pickups are so dangerous why the fuck would they be left to ensigns with no security detail or supervision

It certainly wasn't as terrible as the last two episodes, but it was pretty boring and stupid.
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>>125782680
OK retard
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>>125782680
Oh, and for once the Boimler plot didn't blow ass even if it wasn't very funny. It should've taken over the trash collection plot instead of just intersecting right at the end.
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Told you they're setting up Boimler to be the captain.
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>>125782680
>Them even having a home planet with a government makes no sense considering the whole point is that they're roaming thieving nomads
Maybe it's not supposed to make sense. Maybe someone was secretly influencing their civilization for the past twenty years. We'll see I guess.
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>>125782712
Don't reply to the retard. It only encourages him.
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>>125782680
>Them even having a home planet with a government makes no sense considering the whole point is that they're roaming thieving nomads.
have you ever heard about the Huns and the Mongols?
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gotta say, mariner getting abused through artefacts was more fun than it should have been
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>>125781510
Boooooooo
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>>125782680
>pakleds have a home planet and central government
...what?
Wasn't the only reason they weren't being watched like a hawk by the Federation in the first place because they were nomads with no home?
Them NOT having a central point of organization or symbolic seat of power to fuck up was literally the one thing that made the idea of them fighting the Federation make any sense
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>>125782815
Her having to watch Boimler interact with Jen was just the cherry on the cake.
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>>125782680
Would it kill you to use on-topic avatars?
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How mad would /co/ be if Boimler is red-con to become asexuel after reallissing his true passion is working just how Mariner was into, and I quote, Non binary-babes.
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>>125782862
avatarfagging is a bannable offense
these are called reactions
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>>125782900
Boimler is way too horny to be asexual.
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>>125782919
Asexuel people can still get horny Anon
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>>125782919
oh hey
they fucked up the shading on the left girl's face
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>>125782843
Would the Federation just militarily invade that planet?
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>>125782987
Yeah, but Boimler wants to fuck girls.
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>>125783028
If it were in a declared mutual offensive against the Pakleds? Sure.
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>>125782742
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>>125762736
>Good, stay out of our threads
Furry shit.
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not watched the new episode yet but, is this one of those ''boimier gets something good but marine must ruin everything episode?''
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>>125783133
Boimler saves the day, again.
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stuck what up where?!
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>>125783106
kek
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>>125783133
How are you always misspelling the names in a very specific way? Boimier and Marine. Are you taking the piss? It's a good Boimler episode. Watch it.
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>>125783133
Boimler's subplot is actually a decent one this time
The other two suck as usual
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>>125783198
sacre bleu, I am discoverde!
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I like how instead of the usual Andorian combativeness, she's just really catty.
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>>125783268
Honestly thought it was some kind of weird auto-correct but whatever makes you happy my dude.
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>>125783282
>someone actually drew yoga Jennifer
Yesss
YESSS
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>>125780709
I hate those fucking baggy "gender neutral" uniforms, I fucking hate everything about STD and somehow it keeps getting worse.
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https://youtu.be/a2pwd5qYupk

Based
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>>125783856
but I thought you guys said the show wasn't making fun of cripples and retards in that one episode
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>>125780159
I am sure Jen would be the final boss
And member Jane and that girl are bisexual
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>>125780366
True question, what size of boob cup is Tendi?
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>>125780508
Fucking Orion whores
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>>125782259
Don't they have three tits?
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>>125780532
Imagine how cool would be Boimler banging Castro and Jennifer...
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>>125784075
34D? Mariner seems like a 36C.
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>>125781653
>>125781825
>>125781901
The Romulan Star Empire should have already been massively unstable due to the assassination of the entire Senate only a few years prior.
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>>125782680
>The whole thing with a resistance leader killing the emperor and becoming emperor and then already knowing about the plan (because apparently every pakled on the planet knows the plan despite them all being functionally retarded) was just ridiculous.
I mean you could say that they went to a peaceful planet and took it over. They tried to set up some type of government by just putting on the biggest helmet which just leads to infighting over the helmets.
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>>125784012
Jane only joined the red shirts to hang out with her.
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>>125780905
Mariner is NOT a lady
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>>125782680
>the whole point is that they're roaming thieving nomads.
At what point has it ever been stated in Alpha canon that the Pakleds are, as a species, a bunch of roaming, thieving nomads?
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>>125784356
Shut up Jen
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>>125781142
Posture
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>>125782987
I thought the whole point of being asexual is you don't get horny? Like the brain wiring isn't there or something?
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>>125782492
>Ebert
I member how people hate him when he talk shit about videogames
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>>125782862
>on-topic avatars
KYS FAG
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>>125784412
Red from Overly sarcastic production is asexual and she horny as fuck. I think it just means your good off sex. Like you can live your live just fine by yourself.

Although sometimes I think that Blue and his wife sometimes invite Red for a threesome.
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>>125782900
>become asexuel after reallissing his true passion is working
As a 38 yo wizard this hit me really hard
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>>125784412
Asexuals can get horny. They just don't want to fuck.
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>>125781457
Actually they originally appeared in Larry Niven’s Known Space series before being added into Star Trek. I recently rewatched The Slaver Weapon (which was adapted from a short story in the Known Space series called ‘The Soft Weapon’) and apparently Larry had originally written up an original episode story but none of the Star Trek staff were too happy with it. Roddenberry then noticed the Soft Weapon short and suggested they just adapt that.

Oddly the opening exposition dump given by Spock in the episode and the TAS’ canonical status would mean Star Trek as a whole would be an AU of Larry Niven’s setting.
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>>125784412
Asexual Anon here, you can get really horny pay scorts regullary but penetration is a weird idea, and become repulsive, so basically just want to ejaculate. The relief is enougth to stop the urges, I know some asexual guy who don't even need to pay, his FAP routine make him cum and stop the hornies.
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Asexuals are just volcels
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>>125784484
>crush on Red HARD watching her vids
>will literally never be able to have sex with her
Fuck this timeline
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>>125784549
You need to go outside asap, imagine thinking asexual is a real thing and not some made up bullshit so fucking losers can be part of the alphabet people, just say you cant get laid pussy
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>>125784549
>his FAP routine make him cum and stop the hornies.
You don't say?
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>>125784682
Nope, I hate all LGBT+ movement, sexuallity must be a personal and private thing, not a fucking public circus. I don't like the idea of penetration so I just pay good $500USD per scort everymonth, an agreement between two adults, what is wrong with this?
Fuck alphabet movement, fuck these guys
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>>125784682
Just say you put so much stock in sexual conquest to mask your insecurities about your bleak and meaningless existence that barely justifies the atoms used to construct you, anon
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>>125782680
>Them even having a home planet with a government makes no sense considering the whole point is that they're roaming thieving nomads.
It's quite clear they are rather new to this whole organised government thing.
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>>125784819
The idea that the human species are not primary sexual creature is an affront to actual biologie, and yeah if you dont value sex it means no descendance. Have fun having dying at 80 alone, hope it was worth being asexuel
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>everyone thought he would be a punching bag
>he literally can't stop winning
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>>125784271
>take part in biggest military conflict in galactic history
>just as your starting to get back to normal an old science project comes back for blood, murders your entire government
>barely a decade after that sociopolitical decapitation your home star fucking explodes, just goes fucking BOOM
I know they're basically Soviets IN SPAAAACE but god damn the Romulans cannot get a break
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>>125784898
>everyone thought he would be a punching bag
>he literally can't stop winning
Just wait to 2024
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>>125784484
Huh I rarely watch Blue's videos so I always thought Red and him were a couple
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>>125784682
>People not having sex? Help!
Kek
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>>125784921
still makes no sense that their star just went boom without centuries of warning
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>>125785037
The asexuel gentlemen just said he fucks hookers, are you retarded on purpose anon?
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>>125784898
Boimler was pretty much a nobody when he left the ship but now all the command staff know his name and face as more than friend of captains daughter because he was Titan Bridge crew.
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>>125785059
iirc STO explained it as the Romulans were testing some kind of subspace weapon that inadvertently did something with the nuclear physics in the core of their star and sent it's fusion process into overdrive, making the star go nova well ahead of schedule
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>>125785140
>let's fiddle with the underlying layers of reality itself, what could go wrong?
Do you want to start The Burn?
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU START THE BURN
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>>125782030
>>125782054
I'd actually hate if years after everyone has settled into liking it they come out despising the show and then all their fans who never watch it bring the discussion of the show back to square one.

>>125782900
Happy, I care about these characters beyond them ending up together and would be fine either way
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>>125784898
It's amazing just how bad Boimler BTFOs all the people trying to bring culture war shit into the show by saying it hates (white) men, only for Boimler to be a consistently successful character in prety much every episode, with people like Jet, Rutherford and Shaxs not far behind. And yet, people still try to force this meme.

The show being impossible to project this stuff unto is ptobably why all the grifter channels just stopped reviewing it.
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>>125785178
I can see Mike secretly watching it but never admitting it. It's probably why they said they would never talk about it. They watched both STD and Picard which are objectively far worse. It's not like they would really have much to say anyway, most of the time it's about daily ship shenanigans instead of any profound mysteries.
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>>125784890
Ok seriously, are you ESL or just plain stupid?
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>>125785250
to be fair, the first episodes of the show seemed to be trashing boimler hard, especially the second with him basicly talking about seriously killing himself by getting eaten alive
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>>125785254
I think they're gonna talk about it once S2 ends.
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>>125785297
Boimler wouldn't be so likeable if they weren't trashing him at the start. All of his accomplishment feel earned now.
If he didn't experience hardship, he'd just be Wesley Crusher.
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>>125785344
yeah but atleast the second episode boardered on just way to cruel, atleast if it wouldnt be for the cold opening
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>>125782030
Nah. The jokes would not be to their taste given how childish they can get. These guys are the type who would call the show trash once they hear an episode conflict is resolved with a woman kicking a man on the balls.
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>>125785176
The Burn was dumb
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>>125785419
they think most of TNG season 1 is garbage, one or two subpar episode plots would in no way make them right off the show. Also to be fair, Mike watches Big Mouth.
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>>125785176
That reminds me of post Burn stuff actually. The Gorn trying to make new FTL travel in DIS season 3 and ruining light years of subspace

>>125785297
>>125785382
That all fell apart by episode 3 though when the people who saved the day are Boimler and Ransom. I dont think episode 1 was that hard on him but 2 was, though I'd say that was the point. His growth from having no field experience to te stuff he does now makes that episode better in hidnsight
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New thread is up
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>>125785551
feels a little early
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>>125785561
AN INTERESTING NOTION WHICH I DO NOT SHARE
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>>125785036
Rick and Morty
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>>125785051
Aww geez, Rick, I got shit out by a giant slug! I-I-I'm covered in slug shit, Rick! This is all your fault!
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>>125785642
>>125785668
>a little over a minute apart
Hmmmmm
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>>125785250
>He said, posting about image from the episode where the way to beat the all powerful white male was to stroke his ego and have a strong black woman kick him in the balls
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>>125785725
So you're just a pussy that cant take a joke directed at you even if the rest of the show makes Boimler a constant winner? Literally too thin skinned to watch cartoons
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>>125785725
He takes a shot in the nuts every few episodes. It's a running gag.
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>>125782680
>The whole thing with a resistance leader killing the emperor and becoming emperor and then already knowing about the plan
I prefer to believe that was also part of the plan.
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>>125782680
>Also if these pickups are so dangerous why the fuck would they be left to ensigns with no security detail or supervision

this is what píss me off so far most, is this absurde lack of safety a thing in star trek in general of this show exaggerate for laughs??
because so far he entire federation sounds absolute retarded, no obvious regulations needed, such organization focused on bring peace and avoid diplomatic problems will not survive.
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The episode was passable, because Mariner got humiliated more often than Boimler in this episode. Bringing up Armus is just cringe.
This series relies way too much on
>'memba this thing from that ST series?
to have any lasting appeal.
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So, porn of Scorpion Tendi when?
Also, it was neat that Boimer immediately knew what was wrong and fixed it right away
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>>125785071
>imagine thinking asexual is a real thing
Are you?
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>>125782680
please refer to
>>125756970



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