Are Hunterfags ready to get BTFO'd?
>>124590585I stretched out my hand, and England's Rivers stopt and flowed the other way
>>124590585Nah, hunmitychads are rising up
>show has 4 female characters in its main cast>want to marry each one of them>at the same time
>>124590585no mattholomule, no watch
>>124590732>today I shall remind them that there is only one who this twink ass belongs to>BEGONE THOTS!
>>124590585Why is Amity ugly now?
>>124590800she's next to Hunterchad and Eda-MILFshe's the ugly friend they brought along for the bdsm-abomination-party
>>124590585> inb4 he lets himself be captured
alright promising anon.
>>124590846Alador gets around.....
now post cute!
>>124590858No, post bloody violence and angst!
>>124590891Blood, i need blood.
>>124590850Alador, Eda, and Hunter are the only characters with a widow's peak in the show, and Alador and Hunter have the exact same nose shape and eyebags
What would a war between Belos and /co/ be like?
>>124590832>Amity: Who are you?>Hunter: It doesn't matter who we are. What matters is our plan. No-one cared who I was 'til I put on the mask.>Amity: If I pull that off, will you die?>Hunter: It would be extremely painful...>Amity: You're a big guy.>Hunter: ...for you.>Amity: Was getting caught part of your plan?>Hunter: Of course.>Amity: Well congratulations, you got yourself caught. Now what's the next step of your master plan?Eda is in the background like: WTF are those kids doing
>>124590923/co/ would make fun of him on the internet. A new wojack would be penned in his image. Belos would immediately deploy Coven SWAT-teams to kill the entire posting population of /co/ but good luck pal I'm behind 50 proxies
>>124590628i know that feel anon.
>>124590858no, post gilf
>>124590923Even such low-quality meat as the regulars of 4chan will win.We have industry and the concept of total war.
>>124590585It's already been established that Hunter is powerless without his staff, not too surprising.
>>124590961I want lewd NSFW VA/asmr of eda molesting hunter now
>>124590953joke's on you, those are the emperor proxies! should've bought an anti doxxing crystal from tibbles like I did
>>124590962which episode is this from
>>124590585In the end Amity and Hunter realize they both love Luz more than they hate each other. So they tag team her
>>124590975Taste human' magic, witcheboo.
>>124590917>Amity stares at Hunter in horror: not another older brother, Edric is enough of a hassle!
>>124590990Or Hunter admires Amity and her strength.
>Owlfags still haven’t made any arguments against this pic.
I don't think I've ever seen a western cartoon that has this much good fanart.Why's that the case for this show?
>>124591039>>124590990>Hunter actually recommends Amity to abomination-wig guy, that#s how impressed he is
>>124591048Good designs and art style invite good artists
>>124591039for her strength and skill.This i like this
>>124590585So they give any dumb kid a palismen huh?
>>124591052pretty sure he is gay.source:_________________i made it up_______________________
>>124591078he recommends her as his new protégéwhat did you think I meant?
>>124591087That would be interesting, especially if he's in on the rebellion.
>>124591048Anon, >AT>she-ra>SUi never bothered to stick around in GF thread after livestreaming so i cant tell if that also was on par with fan art stuff.Like >>124591054 said
>>124591087i know, just saying he gay.never had a chance to post about it thought was perfect time since you brought him up.
>>124591046To be fair, Belos is one of the blandest villains in a long whileHe's basically like that fire guy from avatar, people only remember his jobber children not as much him and same goes with Belos jobbers
>>124591117Ozai scared me, he was pretty good at being horrible.
>>124590585Man, Hunter is an even bigger jobber than Lilith ever was.
>>124591098>>124591087>Hunter: at least i can trust the coven heads to not betray my uncle and maybe they can help me healing him!>rayne: Yo, me and the others are starting a revolution and seeing how Emperor Belos uses you as his personal punching bag we thought you might join>Hunter: you're all disloyal cunts and I hate all of you
>>124590923We only have a slim chance if it's in the brief window between Lilith leaving the coven and him getting the abomination army. The average /co/ user is in bad shape, we're unorganized, and a lot of us would probably get killed by a monster or even just messing around with glyphs.A better question is what would happen if a large number of /co/ users got ported into the Boiling Isles. How much people get beat up by Hooty for trying to hook up with Eda?
>>124591165hunter must feel like a kid with a bunch of pals (the coven leaders) who act affable towards him only to throw a party and never invite him, and when he asks them why they left him out, they tell him to go fuck himself and it's not like he has anyone to complain about it to. and then some dyke puts you in a gooey bondage
>>124591252considering the age difference between them>even the small beast oneit's more like they go to adult party with lots of booze and Hunter has to be home alone because he isn't old enough to drink yetor even worse, on family outings he sits at the kids table with plant lady's bratty grandkids who are like half his age and the other coven leader kids who think he's weird/ a nerd and don't really want to play with him
>>124590934>Hunter: Crashing this ship, with no survivors.>He then kisses Eda.
This show good yet?
>>124590585Amity showing hunter her palisment:https://twitter.com/artistncs/status/1417914325549912067?s=21
>>124591470I don’t know
STFU about Amity for a second and remember that we're going to see this absolutely beautiful specimen in less than 48 hours
>tfw you will never blackmail Hunter into being your gf (male) or you'll tell Belos about his palisman
>>124591470Can you repeat the question?
>>124590850stitched it all together
>>124590973jokes on you, Tibbles sells emperor's proxies to make snails on the side by handing over the information to the Emperor's Covenyou should have gotten a Hooty proxie like me
>>124590923I have no beef with the man himself, but I'm happy to introduce his goons to my good friend .357 if they come calling.
>>124591523>Eda said the Owl Hous is partially to hide from her other exes>Rayne is most likely gonna be revealed as an exIs Dana based enough to make Rayne a clearly toxic character towards Eda and have Eda call her out at the end of the episodealso, who here hoping that we get to see her petrified near the season finale as a way to up the stakes>"oh you thought that 'revolution' was gonna do anything, I dealt with them easily"
>>124590923I would literally sell all of you and personally petrify you one by one if I could join him and get an artificial magic staff
>>124591567tried that, not much luck. he said "i don't know how to connect to the internet, but i can connect to your heart! hoot hoot!" and that was the end. there was this white haired lady, tech support i assumed. she just laughed at me
>Hunter banging LuzWack>Hunter bullying LuzREAL SHIT
>>124591632>Hunter bullying Luz WHILE he bangs herA S C E N D E D
>>124590858omg Amity! XD
>>124591632>Hunter bullyingAnd once again Hunterfags ignore the reality of the character they supposedly like
>>124591645why does he have a fucking codpiece?
>>124591698Hunter has multiple dimensions, anon. He bullied Luz and Eda with no mercy when he had the staff. But when he got disarmed, Hunter took shit from everyone. He is at once the bullied and the bully.
Anyone expecting a shit show over Raynes gender this week?
>>124591703you ever been kicked in the dick? shit sucks
>>124591807it is inevitable unfortunately
>>124590973>>124591567Holy shit someone other then me mentioned Tibbles.
>>124591819Tibbles was a shit character that was just a bad version of Gideon from Gravity Falls
>>124591819he wasn't exactly a memorable character but he wasn't forgettable either, I think having a second episode helped
>>124591832Who the fuck is Tibbles? Is he even a real character or is /co/ just roleplaying at this point?
>>124591753The false Golden Guard is a bully. The true Hunter is not.He doesn't have dimensions. He has a mask.
>>124591842it's the little pig that conned eda, it's okay, he’s such a little shit everyone forget him
>124591842worth a reply, not worth a (You)
>>124591854someone needs to redraw this but with Amity and Hunter, then Luz's freakout would actually make a bit of sense
>>124591862Is it weird that I want to write fanfics of them being friends instead of any sort of shipping.
>>124591914No, sounds good.
>>124590858cute af, source?
>>124591862Would be cool.>>124591914By no means find it weird.
>>124591922I'm also doing one where Lilith has to deal with a cold case of her and Eda is brought along for two reasons one she really wants to be a dirty cop and second she really wants to use those sunglasses.
>>124591914it's not weird to ship them and it's not weird to write than as just friendsI have pics of Huntceda as a ship and as a sibling pair, because I like the idea of both
>>124590585They haven't had a new chapter in nearly 3 years so I'd say anything would btfo by now
>>124591952I don't mean like shipping hunter I mean like all of the character for the most part.I do prefer Lumity but I'll be the first to prefer reading a story with all for of these idiots.
If Glandis is in Latissa, which looks like a wretched hive and pretty much lower class, and Hexside is middle class>Gus is the son of a reporter and Willow the daughter of what seems to be a working class couple, but they study next to upper-middle class Amity and the twinsthen shouldn't there also be like a very upper class school?could we at some point in the series have a Glandis vs. Hexside vs. rich-snob school plot?
>>124590961>keeps being called a gilf>actually just 31 years old with shit genes
>>124592006it looks like there's a city surrounding Belos' castle. Could be a high society type of area
>>124592006Probably but hopefully not. Im the rare person who likes the school but that's to much for even me.
>>124592019>she's 40+ and cursed>>124592020>>124592025eh, I kind of would like to at least SEE it once, like: if only high society and Coven members go there I think it would make an interesting contrast to Hexside>maybe Amity's family actually moved up the social ladder afte doing so much work and can get their kids into this high class school>expect Amity to get bullied a lot by the old money and military kids
>>124592006>>124592020>tfw probably no shadowy-elite school episodedamn this show's backgrounds and the promises of possible discoveries they hold
>>124592051>>maybe Amity's family actually moved up the social ladder afte doing so much work and can get their kids into this high class school>>expect Amity to get bullied a lot by the old money and military kidsEh we've got bigger thing going on. If Amity has to leave it should be because she's joined the emperors coven and is learning there or is being prepared for this sacrifice theory.Though while we're here the sacrifice theory would involve Gus and Willow because their story at their types of magic.
>>124591914Why would that be weird lol.8j4xs
>>124592087Because no ones reading it.
>>124592102Sorry anon, i don’t read fics that much. Been deep in many fandoms from the 3 letter acronym to hamfist, space rocks and AT.But your fic idea sounds based n cute. Give it time and people will read it
>>124592136 thanks I'm just a little tired it doesn't get thay much attention. Mind you the fandom might get a little annoyed. I intend for a ballroom dance between Amity and Willlw and Amity and Gus before anything with Luz.
>>124592159Post link I’ll look at it after sleep
>>124590585Is it out?
>>124592253Can't links to fics are banned here.
>>124592295not him but just write the title and the site it's hosted on if you're nervous
What time's the Comic-Con panel?
Do you think Belos went to war against demons?
>>124592326The Guilty party ao3
>>12459255312:00 pm PST on Friday.
>>124592632What exactly is a demon on the B.I.
I'm curious. Ideally, how would you like the story to end?>1. Worlds divided, Luz can go back and forth, but stays in the human realm>2. Worlds divided, Luz can go back and forth, but stays in the Boiling Isles>3. Worlds divided, no foreseeable way to go between worlds, Luz stays in the human realm>4. Worlds divided, no foreseeable way to go between worlds, Luz stays in the Boiling Isles>5. Boiling Isles and human realm merge for good
>>1245927942. But she travels to earth to visit her mom.Also Anne gets to visit Ampgibia and earth and keeps her friendship with Sasha and Marcy
>>124592813>GMT-07:00 Pacific TimeWhy the fuck do Americans have to use retarded measurements for every single thing and not just use the global standard
>>124592862Look at how they write the dates how do you start with the month first
>>124590585Did Amity make her own Palisman, did she get one from the Bat Lady, or did her parents give it to her?
>>124590917Amity:Another sibling great, how can this get worse.Luz:Amity meet my boyfriend.
>>124592794>6. Everybody dies.
>>1245927946. Earth gets destroyed, Luz has just enough time to rescue her mom and that one hot classmate she has (don't judge me you fucks). They all stay on the Boiling Isles and TOH gets renewed for 6 more seasons.
>>124593057Is it Star?
>>124593380Pacific time refers to the 12:00pm, as well as likely the timezone all of the panel's participants are in.
>>124592813This is 3 hours after the valor stream then?
>>124593474Time is hard, huh Anonymous?
>>124592794I'd have to know more about the Boiling Isles. Is it like Xenoblade Chronicles where the whole world is an endless ocean with one massive landmass?
>>124593524We know there are other islands aside from the Boiling Isles
>>124590585Stop spamming threads, you have several up already.
>>124593524It turns out Eda was a wacky supercomputer all along.
>>124593518I missed the first hour of the art duel stream because every single conversion website said it was an hour later than it turned out to be, and I checked 8 different ones
>>1245927941. The final battled has ended, the worlds have merged for few hours, so everyone know something happened and some people on Earth did help.After that, people come and go between realms trying to build a government while showing that some of Belos excuses to keep power were real.Just before Luz is packing lo leave, she finds the map of the second episode and she finds it pretty similar to her story and talks with Eda and her mom about it.Farewells ti everyone just like Frodo at the end on The lord of the rings, with advices.But to end that stuff we need an Earth flashback of Luz to show her stuff wasn't like she saw it. She starts a new year in school and she's welcomed as a hero. And probably Amity is now on Earth doing the stuff Luz did at the BI
>>124592794Any ending where Luz gets her cake and eat it too is guaranteed garbage. Teach kids sometimes you don’t get everything you want.
>>124593578>not correcting for Daylight SavingsThat's honestly just your country's fault
>>124593578hmm, might have to account for daylight savings fuckery. And perhaps they used the wrong acronym which is why you were an hour off.
>>124593620All of those endings involve sacrifice except 5. But I guess even that one kinda does.
>>124593620Eh fuck that give us a happy ending.
>>124593474No, it would be nine hours before.
How can we fight back against the frogchads?
>>124590961Anyone have the image of Luz looking through Wikihow about how to seduce older women while Eda is confused
>Abomination ring wrapped around HunterH..Hunterbros did our guy job?
>>124593663Luz choosing to go between human realm and boiling isles doesn’t and fuck that.>>124593668The show is boring as is, giving it a boring ending won’t help it.
>>124593692Make.peace not war.>>124593731You that prick from yesterday? The one who hasn't seen king pow.
>>124593731>Luz choosing to go between human realm and boiling isles doesn’t and fuck that.Think of it as going away to college, or getting a job that requires a big move. If you've ever done either of those before, you'd know that even though you can still go back to visit family and friends, it's not either an easy task or decision to uproot your life entirely. Whether Luz decides to spend most of her time in Connecticut with her mom, or in the BI with Eda, she'd still basically have to say goodbye to one of them.
>>124593692In the crossover panel, Sasha makes Luz suck her big dick.
>>124593801Can we have q next year flashflrward where Luz returns to the boiling isles with her mother and new human friends?
>>124593710>2/3 times defeatedPetition to rename him the Golden Jobber
>>124592794I feel like option 1 is the one they're going for.the choosing palisman scene and luz's unresolved fear set us up for luz eventually realizing her time on the isles was nothing but escapism. at some point she'll have to address living in the boring human realm. I don't think becoming a witch is what she truly wants, it's gonna become obvious once she faces her mom (and herself by extension). she'll have to learn to balance escapism and normal life and then she'll know who she wants to be
>>124594055Honestly can she still vi's the boiling Isles?I mean I know it hurts the ending but I don't want her to lose her friends and found family.
>>124593793>You that prick from yesterday?yes anon only one person in the whole world has issues with owl house. All the hate is all me.>>124593801>like going to collegeExcept not really. College implies moving away to a place far from home and staying there for the future with little ways of going back. If you go to college to another country for example, you could theoretically visit, but it would cost you money and time.Luz has a staff that allows her to fly and, if she gets it working, a portal she can use to go between human and witch realm as she pleases. Thats not the same at all. Its like having a portal you can use every weekend to see the people you love, not a sacrifice.Also, she's 14, she's too young to get a college treatment.
>>124594115Yeah it's you.Come back when your 18.
>>124594055>the choosing palisman scene and luz's unresolved fear set us up for luz eventually realizing her time on the isles was nothing but escapism. at some point, she'll have to address living in the boring human realm.see what you're talking about is great, but to me, that scene was setting up the typical cartoon protagonist conflict of "oh I'm not good enough for this" only for the friends to come on and say "YES YOU ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THIS, WE LOVE YOU" and then the character becomes confident. Which sucks because the message about learning to handle escapism is pretty good, but this show seems to be all in on escapism and hates whatever is "normal".Well, we always have Amphibia to tell that message.
>>124594129>yourcome back when you learn how to write
>>124590585Golden Hunter is for sexual bullying
>>124594041>blond dude, jobs all the timethe only place where the blondes are winning are in harem anime
>>124594161Still bitter I see.
oh my god hurr durr who the fuck even cares you're all shitting yourselves over a bad quality cartoon that recently has been announced to be shitcanned
Any other TOH content after season 3?
>>124594201Not really, but I do know how to type.
>>124594217I can't tell if this is pro or anti owl house>calls Lumity blatant pandering>but boasts about ratings
>>124594217>after season 3anon...
>>124591362no, anon, we don't know if they're related!
>>124594222Gonna cry about hunter getting beat again?
>>124594217I hear they're working on a light novel based on the series, but that's it.
>>124594300Better than this thread
>>124594307at this point Hunter actually gets off of getting dominated by those superior to him, when his uncle beats him he actually tells him>harder, uncle
I wouldn't mind the idea of an ending where Luz can go between the BI and earth freely. The idea that maturity comes at the cost of your passions is unnecessarily cruel, and it's not like the BI actually enables the worst parts of Luz's personality. She has a family that supports her, friends and a girlfriend. Having her lose all that and telling her it's ok because she's mature now would be a downer ending. Not to mention that the only person she'd be able to talk to about what she's been through is Camila.
>>124592794Luz can’t go back home, she’s part of the boiling isles now, and that copy of her isn’t evil and has no idea Luz went to the boiling isles it was the world correcting itself. Boiling isles Luz was crafted by magic and has no place on earth.
>>124590732>>124593487>>124591645>Not much porn of itIt's not going anywhere anon's not much porn of it too. Don't be like Star's fan base who were blind AF to the point they have to make a character gay to prove Starco was endgame.Would be based if they made Hunter gay.
>>124592794No matter what, Luz is staying in the Boiling Isles. Guaranteed.
>>124594373Honestly I don't get why giving up escapism is considered good. Have her learn to accept a balance between them and move forward.Honestly just give Luz the happy ending.Also give Amphibia a happy ending while we're at it.
>>124594439Hunters one true love might be wild magic but jobbing is his second love
>>124594450season ends with them stopping the day of unity, >but at what cost?
>>124594217Most Disney animated shows don't really get any follow-up content after they're over.
>>124594567I think at least GF got comics
>>124594454Too much escapism is obviously bad, but the BI isn't escapism for Luz. She learned in season 1 it's a real place with real people and it's not a magical land crafted specifically to enable her.>Also give Amphibia a happy ending while we're at it.I figure the music box will be destroyed (I probably wouldn't mind an ending where it isn't though) but yeah I'll be pretty bummed if the girls don't repair their friendship and Marcy still has to move away.
>>124594567>>124594589Didn't DuckTales get a podcast?
>>124594590>I figure the music box will be destroyed (I probably wouldn't mind an ending where it isn't though) but yeah I'll be pretty bummed if the girls don't repair their friendship and Marcy still has to move away.Honestly after the shit those three have gone though give em the golden ending.Have them separate as friends for a year but during the one year anniversary of the nights defeat and Anne birthday the girls Amphibian friends trick them into reuniting and their friends restarts
Mark failed in the spelling of Eclipse "Artifact" but whatever.I liked it.
>>124594439>Not much pornHaven't seen any at all, but that's probably just because I don't want to have twitter
>>124594217>>124594310>>124594567According to Dana, only Disney shows with 50 episodes get merchandise. OH may be getting a light novel but Dana's lack of enthusiasm at the announcement implies it was half-assed and done without her involvement.
>>124594680I wish TOH had something like a podcast, just something that has semi-serious back and forth discussion about the show, characters and theories.
>>124594589GF was a unique case where both audiences and executices wanted more episodes, only it didn't because Alex ended the show early due to the production taking a toll on him.So it still got a bunch of merch even if the show overall only had 40 episodes.
>>124594210Post full image or gtfo
Anyone got a MEGA?
>>124590585You're both pedophiles so you're both BTFO
>>124594972Alex is an enigma, he was a one-show man and fully aware of it
>>124591585It would be pretty based if we saw Belos and co. kill multiple revolution members at the end of the episode.But alas, that shall only happen when Dana and the other writers become brave enough to have actual stakes in The Owl House.>>124590585Where do you guys keep finding these episode screenshots?
So both the Amphibia and TOH panels are just the crossover table reading?
>>124594742>Day of Unity? More like Day of Lumity!
>>124594742Amity looks darks/edgy in a good way here. I love her.
>>124595474No she doesn't look edgy at all.
>>124590585>but Amity's not the only one on its trail.So that was Hunter.So basically this is an Amity and Hunter interaction episode.That's interesting, that means Hunter was sent here for a reason.
>>124595526Belos needs shit for the door, or something that will let him craft his own key (which we see in the trailer)
>>124595526>this is an Amity and Hunter interaction episode.>former edgy rival & current edgy rival team upKnuckles and Shadow episode, got it
>>124595526>>124595549it's a >Hunter jobs episodehow hard will his uncle beat him today?
>>124595549Yeah that seems to be the case. That means this scene is a final minute scene from episode 9 or 10.
>>124595604I don't think he'll lose completelyHe'll probably sneak off with a key ingredient while Amity gets the cure
>>124595604I think he semi-succeeds because Belos gets his door working too, see >>124595618
>>124595214Yep. Personally, I want an animated crossover but story-wise it's kind of hard to do. where can it be set?>>124595204Yep Not getting home getting turned to stone no stakes there.
Why does Amity have the best art.
>>124595645Amity's not looking for a cure, she's looking for something for the portal. Luz literally has the BI equivalent of the common cold.
>>124595618So 2B will have both worlds united?It's just Amphibia 3A?
>>124595671Best girl = best art
>>124595563or piccolo and vegeta. someone should edit that. y'know what I'm talking about.
>>124595645>while Amity gets the cureI really doubt Amity's mission will be curing Luz since it's just a Cold.Amity is basically just doing Luz a favor of finding that ingredient.
>>124595645>a key ingredientheh
>>124595674>So 2B will have both worlds united?No nothing in the synopsis for Yesterday's Lie suggests that.
>>124595654>Hunter: I got the ingredient and all it cost me was my dignity and pride
>>124595684not a favor she's doing it because she wants to help.
>>124590585So what the hell has happened to the show? Has is actually been canceled or cut short?
>>124595696I mean it's kind of vague all we know is that "Luz thinks she's found a way back home. But is she ready for what she'll find on the other side?"No idea what else happens in the episode.
That preview picture is so fucking hot just imagine Amity just dominating you and beating you up then pissing on you while rubbing abomination goo all over your bleeding wounds which makes you scream in terror.
>>124595742It was cut short, season 3 is still happening.
>>124595754Please seek out a therapist, Hunter
>>124595742Neither, Season three is happening but it's three 44 minute specials.
>>124595769And then she takes your friend Luz and starts fucking in front of you with an abomination dildo while giving you a death glare then Luz says Oh Amity your so big and slimy make me yours while moaning and saying orgasm gibberish Luz then cums and passes while Amity just looks at you smugly and sees your erection then puts an abomination chastity lock on it and giggles.
Cold weather again? Wonder where they are in the Titan.
>>124595896Probably somewhere where the sun doesn't shine, hence all the snow and cold
>>124595604It'll be less Belos beating him and more Kiki laughing at him.
>>124595914>>124595960lol does he have balls anymore?
>>124595960>>124595977The titan is female
>>124592813Is it possible to catch these things after they air?
>>124595983considering he's King's dad probably not.
>>124595526>but Amity's not the only one on its trail.>So that was HunterN-no... I refuse! She still has a chance to be in it despite Hunter's presence, r-right bros?
>>124596050Yeah.Also Am I the only one who thinks Wendy's is the only one who has a proper studio from these pics.This better had Hop Pop and Eda flirting.
>>124590835>>124590841>>124590846>>124590850Very based, thank you
>>124595931>Kiki laughs as he comes back empty handed>he waits for a second with a smug grin as the mooks drag in barrels of titan blood behind him>Kiki chokes on her own laughter>'Did you really expect me to carry all of the titan blood by myself?'>>124595983>>124596056maybe the titan is both?>The titan was the non-binaty character all along
>>124592794It has to be either 2 or 4. There's nothing waiting for Luz back in the human world other than her mother. Meanwhile in the boiling isles, Luz has friends, a found family, a potential girlfriend, and a future where she can become what she apparently wants to be (a witch). Admittedly, 4 might be a little too bleak, even though it's technically the same way The Little Mermaid ends.>>124594115>Also, she's 14, she's too young to get a college treatment.2 is basically the ending we got in Luca, and Luca is even younger than Luz.
>>124595983No evidence either way.
>>124596206>Lucawell, with Luca he can always go back and visit his parents, plus he's with friends in a country he knows where he can eat the food and he is accepted the way he is>also it is Italy>when you live in Europe everything is 'close'>unlike America where everything is big and locations are wide appart
>realize it's a cave>Hunter is grossed out by a lot of things and thought King smells>is grossed out by Luz in episode 1>always wears glovesoh god, I bet GG actually bullied a guard into giving him his clothes because there's no way he's going in a gross cave filled with icky green titan blood and ruining his golden armor
>>124596291Why is Dana dating this manlet?
>>124596317What a faggot.
>>124590585Determined Amity is adorable.
>>124596368he just grew up in a clean, orderly environment where 'cleanliness is next to godliness'>he didn't want to kill that creature in episode one because he was lazy>he just doesn't like blood stains, you know how hard it is to get bloodstains out of A WHITE CLOAK like that?
>>124596407>E-Edric not s-so fast, you're going to get my uniform dirty!
>>124596407Reminds me of my sister the dumb bitch.
>>124596291>he was ~30 when he posted thisHow embarrassing
>>124594373>The idea that maturity comes at the cost of your passions is unnecessarily cruelLet's not get into how cool it would be that a modern cartoon has a cruel yet poignant ending and let's discuss the other implications of this.Luz does not have to sacrifice her passions. She does not have to become a normal kid like her mom wanted to, she can be the weirdo she wants to be. However, she is not from the boiling isles, she's a human from the earth, and she was never meant to cross over. While she loves being there, it's not a place for her, and choosing to stay there is actively sacrificing her humanity for the sake of fantasy. In general the whole adventure is Luz escapism, and staying in your escapist fantasy permanently fucks over the narrative of growth and change by letting the protagonist get a perfect life at the cost of nothing.Not only is it thematically weak, but it also doesn't change much from the status quo we have now. Luz starts the show loving life in the boiling isles and ends the show....loving life in the boiling isles. There's no real progression, she starts loving it and ends loving it, no real change in her perception of things. Yes, Belos would get defeated, she will get a girlfriend and get better at using glyphs, but those are very surface level, and the fact she's able to have fun even in the tyrannical oppressive rulership of Belos means a world free from him would be barely any difference, and Lumity is already a thing so that jump isn't that big either. You also miss out on the big tear-jerker ending of seeing all the characters you love to say goodbye. The protagonist and the audience both say farewell to the show and go back to their normal lives, having grown due to their appreciation of the adventures they just had. By having Luz not have to say goodbye, it takes away a dramatically powerful moment that can resonate with the audience for years to come.
>>124596539Shut up Hunter
>>124594590>Too much escapism is obviously bad, but the BI isn't escapism for Luz.it is 100% escapism. She gets to live with witches, learns magic, gets a girlfriend, a cute pet, a supportive mother figure, new friends who appreciate her, and gets to be as weird as she wants and is successful at it. Yeah, sometimes she faces danger, but she also loves said danger, and makes her feel like a badass heroine for doing so. So yeah, it is escapism.>>124594454giving up escapism is good because real life is not a fantasy where you get what you want. You dont wanna tell kids they can get everything they want, because then they grow up to be delusional and needy. You gotta teach them that you dont always get your way.
>>124596577>giving up escapism is goodNo
>>124596577I like how you consider shit like having friends, a supportive family and a girlfriend as escapism lmao Luz wasn't such an awful person beforehand that she didn't deserve basic happiness if she was willing to put in the work to achieve those things.
>>124596539>Luz does not have to sacrifice her passions. She does not have to become a normal kid like her mom wanted to, she can be the weirdo she wants to be. However, she is not from the boiling isles, she's a human from the earth, and she was never meant to cross over.Why? While she loves being there, it's not a place for her, and choosing to stay there is actively sacrificing her humanity for the sake of fantasy. How?In general the whole adventure is Luz escapism, and staying in your escapist fantasy permanently fucks over the narrative of growth and change by letting the protagonist get a perfect life at the cost of nothing.Again you don't know that?>Not only is it thematically weak, but it also doesn't change much from the status quo we have now. Luz starts the show loving life in the boiling isles and ends the show....loving life in the boiling isles. There's no real progression, she starts loving it and ends loving it, no real change in her perception of things. Yes, Belos would get defeated, she will get a girlfriend and get better at using glyphs, but those are very surface level, and the fact she's able to have fun even in the tyrannical oppressive rulership of Belos means a world free from him would be barely any difference, and Lumity is already a thing so that jump isn't that big either.Okay so how's it supposed to change?>You also miss out on the big tear-jerker ending of seeing all the characters you love to say goodbye. The protagonist and the audience both say farewell to the show and go back to their normal lives, having grown due to their appreciation of the adventures they just had. By having Luz not have to say goodbye, it takes away a dramatically powerful moment that can resonate with the audience for years to come.I can somewhat buy this but Honestly your asking a lot of What Ifs and not really giving any reasons for why this has to be the reason.
>>124596592>dont face reality just stay with your fantasies broplease>>124596605she deserves basic happiness. She has a mom that loves her and she can totally find friends who support her and people that appreciate what she offers. But humans. Not magic kids with powers that can do outlandish things.
>>124596577>You can't be happy, that's escapism!Kys
>>124596475>>124596476great, now I imagine he owns a pinafore and wears it when he cleans his room >Luz: why are you wearing a french maid outfit?>Hunter: it is a pinafore to protect my clothes and there is nothing wrong about wearing one- also: what is a 'french maid'?
>>124596625>just give up your friends, your girlfriend, your cool wine aunt and your passions bro IT'S MATURE YOU HAVE YOUR MOM WHO PREFERS THE CREEPY CLONE OVER YOU, JUST DEAL WITH IT BRO
>>124596625>she deserves basic happiness. She has a mom that loves her and she can totally find friends who support her and people that appreciate what she offers. But humans. Not magic kids with powers that can do outlandish things.... Seriously you kind of seem upset at something.
>>124596628not what I said at all, but misinterpret whatever yu want faggot>>124596620>Why?cause shes not a witch, she was born in another realm, she belongs in that realm. The villain is trying to combine the two realms and is seen as a bad guy. It's not natural.>How?To live in a society that is not human is actively sacrificing your humanity. You don't get to deal with human problems and rather stay in fantasy land to do fantasy things. >Again you don't know that?If she gets to live in both worlds freely, she is not sacrificing anything. >Okay so how's it supposed to change?Luz enters the boiling isles and leaves as a different person. Easy, basic story strucure.>your asking a lot of What Ifs and not really giving any reasons for why this has to be the reason.I gave plenty of reasons and discussing the ending as a whole is a huge what if. Sorry if you're so sensitive you cant get why people want a show to not have a perfect golden ending.
>>124596648Yeah I bet that day would.
>>124596577It's not escapism. Luz still has to deal with real world problems in the boiling isles. It's just somewhere she fits in better. It's not really different to someone moving to another city and jiving better with the people and culture there.
>>124596702I had no idea anons outside of my general needed meds
>>124596673>>124596684Yeah it seems he is a very miserable person.
>>124596684>... Seriously you kind of seem upset at something.Not really, but that's not gonna stop you from making assumptions about me, is it? >>124596673>just give up your friends, your girlfriend, your cool wine aunt They will always have each other at heart and the experiences they had together will mark them for life, but they all have to move on. >passions she doesn't have to give up her passions at all. She can love magic and all the weird stuff back on Earth.>YOU HAVE YOUR MOM WHO PREFERS THE CREEPY CLONE OVER YOU, JUST DEAL WITH IT BROPlease, her mom doesn't even know shes fake, and once she finds out she will run back to her real daughter. Seems you dont even know the show you are defending if you think Camilla unironically would abandon real Luz for the fake one
>>124596740>. Luz still has to deal with real world problems in the boiling islesShe is in a school that gives her special treatment in learning whatever she wants, she gets to go to adventures with people with powers, magical creatures and is surrounded by creepy weird shit she loves. Its not the same as moving in another city, no city in the world has flying creatures, real witches, cute demon babies, etc. >>124596744>anyone who disagrees with me needs medsHave you taken yours yet?
>Americans wake up>Schizos appearPoetry
>>124596702>cause shes not a witch, she was born in another realm, she belongs in that realm. The villain is trying to combine the two realms and is seen as a bad guy. It's not natural.How does that make her going bakc wrong.>To live in a society that is not human is actively sacrificing your humanity. You don't get to deal with human problems and rather stay in fantasy land to do fantasy things. How? again does that means immigrants don't deal with their own problems in another country.>If she gets to live in both worlds freely, she is not sacrificing anything. Why does there need to be a sacrifice, by your standards, She can realize she has to leave but keep the door to keep going back.
>>124596749You need therapy stat.
>>124596539I agree with all of this on some level, but at the same time:Why?Why does it always HAVE to end that way? It's only escapism from the perspective of an audience watching a show, in-univetse the BI are a very real place that Luz has already learned are not her fantasy paradise. It has real problems with real people and isn't just a dream she's making up.You can make the argument that going home is the "mature" way to handle things and would teach kids not to live in a fantasy, but the BI isn't one, and by having her stay while still connecting with her mother you can show that there aren't always places where you'll belong (earth) but that doesn't mean you always have to be an outsider. There are places and people who will respect and love you if you afford them the same. If you want to make it more "real" have Belos' downfall create some negative effects that Luz has to address and deal with long-term to show that things aren't perfect and still need work.Ending every show like this with the>you have to go back to earth and be normalis boring and shitty to people who dont fit in with the status quo. It only makes sense from an outside perspective and actively goes against what we've seen in the show. Luz fits in in the BI and the only way to keep her on earth would be for her mother, and that's saying you should give up everything you want for your parents, which is a stupid, stupid message
What exactly is the context behind this art here?
>>124596746>this person does not want the boring predictable perfect happy ending and has arguments for it, he must be a miserable person>>124596792>>124596796Fuck me for trying to have a discussion I guess. I forgot im dealing with brainlets
>>124596749>They will always have each other at heart and the experiences they had together will mark them for life, but they all have to move on.No they don't.>she doesn't have to give up her passions at all. She can love magic and all the weird stuff back on Earth.Yeah fucking wow, "hey you actually were in a place where you could do magic, but you have to give it up because MATURE, but hey maybe you can make a living reading tarot cards lmao it's the same thing!".
>>124596778>Its not the same as moving in another city, no city in the world has flying creatures, real witches, cute demon babies, etc.I think you might be autistic. Not an insult or joke.
>>124596795>How does that make her going bakc wrong.going back home is not wrong, but if the villain is trying to unite both realms, an ending where the main character gets to live in both worlds is wrong.Hell, you could make a great parallel between Belos and Luz with both wanting to go back home without sacrificing the magic. You can maybe have an arc where Luz actually teams up with Belos and becomes evil for a bit. That would be neat. >again does that means immigrants don't deal with their own problems in another country.Immigrants are human beings who live in the planet Earth. Immigrants are not magical witches who fly with staffs and they dont have cute demon kings as pets.>She can realize she has to leave but keep the door to keep going back.Because then she isn't leaving, she has easy access back whenever the fuck she wants.
>>124596807I pity you.
>>124596702>bro you cant just immigrate to another country and find a better job, new friends, and a good standard of living, you have to go back to your shithole birthplace, it's where you belong>searching for a better life is escapism, bro
>>124596863>You can maybe have an arc where Luz actually teams up with Belos and becomes evil for a bit.kek
I'm sick of artists aging up the characters so that they can sexualize them. What the fuck is wrong with sexualizing them at their canonical ages
>>124596827>No they don't.sure they do, basic disney stuff. Happened in Monsters Inc. for example.>"hey you actually were in a place where you could do magic, but you have to give it upyeah because shes not a witch, shes a human, and she has to live a human life. Not because MATURE, because its whats right.>but hey maybe you can make a living reading tarot cards lmao it's the same thing!".she can write her own fantasy book series, its already set up from before>>124596883see >>124596863 about the immigrant bit>>124596838>>124596866>>124596888>i dont have an argument but uh...you suckpathetic
>>124596883Accept your lot in life, peasant, the way God intended.
>>124596904>I dont know what metaphors areThat's your whole argument
>>124596804>Why does it always HAVE to end that way?always? When has it always ended that way? Tell me what recent cartoon has ended like this.Steven Universe ends with the protagonist uniting gem and human, and while he leaves his home he can always come back, plus has all the sci-fi tech to do so.Star Vs literally ends with the two worlds combining so the main couple doesn't have to split up.Gravity Falls ends with the characters commiting to coming back next summer.
>>124596807>Fuck me for trying to have a discussion I guess. I forgot im dealing with brainletsYou don't want a discussion, You want to jerk off.Honestly, If it's done well I would love Luz sacrifices her abiilty to return to the boiling ises ending but yours sounds depressing. only there becaue it mkaes sense.
>>124596805Gaunter O'Dimm, sometimes called Master Mirror or Man of Glass, was a powerful individual, creating pacts with people in exchange for their souls and being able to control time with a mere clap of his hands.
>>124596904>not because MATURE, because its whats right.Based on what? From your other posts, you seem to be autistic
>>124596928>That's your whole argumentno it isn't, but you probably have bad reading comprehension>>124596916>look mom I posted the gif>>124596939>you want to jerk offyes anon thats why I actually brought actual arguments instead of just saying "HAHA RETARD TRANNY SJW GARBAGE">Honestly, If it's done well I would love Luz sacrifices her abiilty to return to the boiling ises ending but yours sounds depressingI literally am arguing for the concept of her leaving. I never said she fucking kills them all or that she leaves hating the isles, I offered a positive bittersweet version of it, and yet its depressing? But you wuld like a version where she sacrifices her way to return to the isles? Make up your mind
>>124596936I'm not talking about modern cartoons, I'm talking about portal fiction where a character has a better life in the alien world but always goes back to earth because>muh escapism metaphorIt happens 99% of the time and it's getting a little boring
>>124596957>Based on what?on all the points I already mentioned before and you refused to read cause you're autistic?>>124596980keep em coming baby>>124596990>I'm not talking about modern cartoons, I'm talking about portal fiction where a character has a better life in the alien world but always goes back to earth because muh escapism metaphorgo ahead, give me examples.In any case, it happens because that's the point of these stories. If you dont like it then you just dont like the genre.
The whole argument is that Luz doesn't have anything on earth besides Camila, and making her basically start over from scratch when she can't even tell other people what she's been through with the payoff being "but she's mature now" is incredibly cynical. Life is full of disappointments and sacrifices, but there's a limit to that sort of thing. The idea that we can only be mature is through giving up what makes us happy is a harmful one.
>>124596978>no it isn'If you cant see the parallels between Luz on the BI and an immigrant in a new country then it literally is>B-BUT MAGIC--yes, schizo. That's why it's a metaphor
>>124596904>because its whats right... But why though?
>Come back to a thread at hyperspeed>It's all autismGood job
>>124597004>YOU CANT EVEN PROVE THAT IT HAPPENS, GIVEME EXAMPLES> OF COURSE IT ALWAYS HAPPENS, THAT'S THE POINT!!????
>>124597009Yeah I suspect this autistic anon comes from an oppressive family/society.
>>124597009She didn't have anything besides her mom, but after her experience in the isles make her stronger, more confident and makes her love who she is, she WILL get what she wants on earth. She can get friends, success, and fortune by the skills she has learned that arent just magic on the isles, that's the point of these stories, the escapism is the fantastical way of developing a story of growth. Normal people have to face it with awkward teenage years, while in fiction the characters do it in fantastical situations.You arent just mature for giving up what makes you happy, and she doesnt have to. What makes her happy isnt just the people from the isles, its the feeling of being loved and appreciated for what she is, and that is something she wil carry forever no matter where she goes.>>124597024cause humans belong in the human realm and witches on the witches realm. The main bad guy is trying disrupt that and is portrayed as a villain for it.
>>124590792This, Rascal has dibs.
>>124597066>autistic anon comes from an oppressive family/society.Anon is Amity?
>>124597079>Scots belong in Scotland and the Irish belong in Ireland>my prood for this is that if you put on on top of the other, they'd both explode
>>124597079>cause humans belong in the human realm and witches on the witches realm. The main bad guy is trying disrupt that and is portrayed as a villain for it.Really? I thought it was because he was a tyrant who wanted to corrupt magic for his own purposes?Nope, it's because he's from another world.
>>124596206>2 is basically the ending we got in LucaNow that I think about it, option 2 is also basically the ending we got in Frozen 2. Man, what a duality between the same way to conclude a story.
>>124597079I agree. Nig- I mean witches should stick to their own kind.
>>124597056you're the one stating it happens all the time, and yet you cant even give me a basic example. It happens in stories like Narnia because of the reasons I just said. See? I came up with an example, but its not recent and is old as fuck. Go on, tell me your examples. If you cant fnd any and have to rely on posts like this, you dont have much of an argument, do you?>>124597066>>124597119keep making assumptions about me guys, it totally helps your case>>124597120if you dont know the difference between a country and another dimension, thats on you budy>>124597128yeah, are you going there already?>>124597133regardless of what his intentions are he still desires the same goal you want Luz to have: to combine earth and the isles so that you can exist there without sacrificing your magic. If Luz ends up doing exactly that, the villain wins.
>>124597135>>124596206>>124592794there's another option:it'll never get really resolved because the season gets cut short, and it is open-ended
>>124597161>living in another dimension is the same as living in another country or being from a different racePure retards on these threads I see
>>124597154>Anon watches Owl House from ChinaThat'd be so retarded on every level
>>124597133for a while I was on the Belos is human trainbut with the hunter reveal I suddenly struggle with my conviction and wonder if Belos couldn't be another witch without magic from the same line as Hunter is
>>124595526I'm going to be honest.I really doubt these two will get along easily, mainly if Hunter betrays those two for the ingredient.
>>124597185Only an actual autist could be this excessively literal.
>>124597191>Belos couldn't be another witch without magicThen how does he do magic? What's his (artifical) source?
>>124597079Dude Luz being on the Boiling Isles isn't like, a disturbance to the ecosystem, she's not fucking things up by just existing there. She can't eat a lot of things there, which is why she'll need to go back to earth sometimes. Also chances are the elf-eared witches far ancestors were humans who fell into the Boiling Isles via titan's blood, so. Also Belos' plan is bad because he's just going to drop the fucking Titan into the middle of Connecticut and then presumably try to conquer earth with his magical army, not because he wants to establish a connection between the two realms.
>>124597213he shoved one of those red crystals on top of their staff's up in his chest, he turned himself into a grotesque mud monster but at least he got power now
>>124597164>if you dont know the difference between a country and another dimension, thats on you budyAgain, with the inability to understand metaphorsThis is a recurring problem for you
>>124597210Only an autist could literally think going to another dimension is exactly the same as being an immigrant
>>124597164>If you cant fnd any and have to rely on posts like this, you dont have much of an argument, do you?You keep asking for examples, then say that it's how all these stories go. If we're both agreeing that it happens every time, why are you trying to argue about it? I truly dont understand your motivations
>>124596805This looks like some really weird crossover art of like Detroit become human or some shit
>>124597262>Again, with the inability to understand metaphorsthe boiling isles is not a fucking metaphor for immigration you dumbass. Is Narnia about that as well?>>124597216>she's not fucking things up by just existing there> She can't eat a lot of things there, which is why she'll need to go back to earth sometimesyou just contradicted yourself.>Also chances are the elf-eared witches far ancestors were humans who fell into the Boiling Isles via titan's bloodheadcannon, not canon. If that turns out to be true you may have a point, but if not, then no.> Also Belos' plan is bad because he's just going to drop the fucking Titan into the middle of Connecticut and then presumably try to conquer earth with his magical army, not because he wants to establish a connection between the two realms.if the show ends with the two realms connecting, he still gets what he wants sorta, and his evil plan ends up helping the heroes. Which is stupid.
>>124597288>truly dont understand your motivationsnever said it happens all the time, I said the reason why it happens, period. I cant think of many that do this besides Narnia, do you? Youre the one who really hates it that it happens ALL THE TIME. Go on, tell me of recent examples that make you so mad. Or did you say that and realized after you posted it that it doesnt happen all the time?
>>124597206>from amphibia s2Love amphibia but damn bro couldn't you find like a real-life quote and not from the main villain
>>124597314>you just contradicted yourself.No I didn't? Luz isn't opening a titan blood drill in the last known palistrum wood forest, she's just vibing. Her needing to go back to earth to eat normal food isn't fucking up the balance of the Boiling Isles.>if the show ends with the two realms connecting, he still gets what he wants sorta, What he wants is to have all the magic for himself so he can rule people with it. That's not the same thing.
>>124597164>regardless of what his intentions are he still desires the same goal you want Luz to have: to combine earth and the isles so that you can exist there without sacrificing your magic. If Luz ends up doing exactly that, the villain wins.Man your just dumbAre you telling me that If a man wanted to unite humanity by preaching Humanity's inherent goodness is the same a guy who wants to unite humanity under his heel by force si the same?same goals yes but one can have the same goals and entirely different means to achieve them. just because one is evil does not make the other evil.
>>124597373>Her needing to go back to earth to eat normal food isn't fucking up the balance of the Boiling Isles.but it is an element about her that shows she is not from this world and does not belong here. How much you wanna bet the flu episode also comes from her human nature.>That's not the same thing.He wants the worlds combined. If the show ends with the worlds combined but without genocide, the villain still gets his way sort of.
>>124597269So I can't compare anything unless they're literally the exact same thing? lol. Obviously it's not exactly the same, but fundamentally they're very similar.You still haven't given a good reason for why Luz should leave other than 'just coz'. What's so wrong with a human living in the boiling isles?
>>124597404>unite humanitythe concept of uniting humanity has different meanings due to how vague it is. But combining two different dimensional realms into one is not a metaphor, is a literal action. If Belos gets his way but they stop his genocide, he still sort of wins. Like yeah he doesnt get everything he wants, but the main goal of crossing over, the day of unity, does happen, just not 100% how he wants it to.
>>124597421Nobody is saying the worlds will combine, just that Luz will have a portal.
>>124597413This is offtopic but arent most girls who volunteer to be around kids actually pedophiles?
>>124597424>but fundamentally they're very similar.No, they're not. Earth is a place we all humans live in. To move from a place to another weirder place on earth is more like that than crossing into another dimension because you found a portal by surprise.>ou still haven't given a good reason for why Luz should leave other than 'just coz'. if you think >>124596539 is "just coz" then you clearly dont care about having a discussion and are just seething someone has a different opinion than you on an ending, and therefore you arent worth talking to
>>124597449But that's just it. What happens if he unites humanity but Wild magic is considered the norm. he loses big time, because his desires are completely wrong it's a perversion of what he wants.
Also titan's blood naturally causes things from the human world to fall into the BI and vice versa. Both realms are already connected.
>>124597458>just that Luz will have a portal.She's still getting what Belos wants though, a way between realms. >>124597495He loses big time but he still does something that works out for the heroes. Its like if Megatron combines Cybertron with Earth and the genocide is planned for AFTER the unity. Then Megatron is stopped but his actions form a new society of humans and Autobots living happily. The villains plan ends up helping the heroes a ton and they kick him out before the awful parts of his plan end up happening. Thats just weird.
So basically the correct way of ending this show is Luz losing everything she achieved in BI and start again from 0 in the human realm?
>>124590732What’s with people calling them siblings?
>>124597535>titan's blood naturally causes things from the human world to fall into the BI and vice versa.Except it only happened with one human, and said human wanted to find a way back home, which proves how unatural it is. And Luz did not fall from the titans blood, she used Edas portal
>>124597543You keep fucking ignoring why Belos wants a way through to earth to fuel your pissy little argument that BI and earth need to remain permanently separate.
>>124597543>He loses big time but he still does something that works out for the heroes. Its like if Megatron combines Cybertron with Earth and the genocide is planned for AFTER the unity. Then Megatron is stopped but his actions form a new society of humans and Autobots living happily. The villains plan ends up helping the heroes a ton and they kick him out before the awful parts of his plan end up happening. Thats just weird.Dramatic Irony is weird.
>>124597478MOST? MOST, anon? Do you understand what you’re implying?
>>124597535>Both realms are already connected.So that proves even more than BI is Hell?
>>124597562YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT'S MATUUUUUUUUUURE IT'S THE NATURAL ORDERRRRRRR AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>124597562>character moves on from fantastical setting but grew because of it and will use said growth in her normal lifeseems good with me>>124597601shut up sasha fag, amphibia literally is going for this>>124597578>You keep fucking ignoring why Belos wants a way through to earth not ignoring it, but he wants to go to earth but keep his magic, which is what you all are arguing for. And if the show says that's bad, then its bad. >>124597585>dramatic ironythat is an extreme from dramatic irony to the point the key element that makes a happy ending is the bad guys doing. Belos is already pretty pathetic, he does not need this.
>>124597484Yeah, it basically is 'just coz', because it doesn't make any sense in-universe for Luz to just leave. You wanting a contrived, tear-jerker ending to hit you in the feels does not make it a compelling or logical ending for the show.
>>124597662>shut up sasha fag, amphibia literally is going for thisAnne has bonds in the Human realm.Luz doesn't. She only has her mother.Anne has all the town united and her two friends.It's completely different.
>>124597373YD's actual design is so good but half of the boarders just messed her up. It took them years to learn how to draw Pearl and they never got that kind of practice with YD.
>>124597662I think it's clear you are not convincing anyone.
>>124597696You're forgetting all the great stuff in Connecticut, like, uh...
>>124597662Anne actually has a life on earth, Luz doesn't. That's why people are actually considering if Luz going back to earth and never seeing the BI again would actually be good writing.
>>124597696>Anne has bonds in the Human realm.Nope. She has her parents and that’s it. Sasha and Marcy were her only friends.
>>124597719New Haven clam pie!
>>124597696Honestly, I want the Amphibia ending to have Anne and Co still be able to go to Amphibia whenever they want, they've suffered enough, Luz could just end with her staying on earth but have her od it to save the Boiling isles, and also have er find away to go back at the end.
>>124597562I'm tired of maladapted people in 4chan.
>>124597692So you didn’t read my post and are seething over the idea that the show doesn’t have a perfect ending. Got it, not gonna waste my time with you then.>>124597706I didn’t come here to convince anybody, just to give my opinion. I forgot how sensitive you all are. Next time I’ll have discussions on places where people don’t lose their shit over disagreements.
>>124597761>they've suffered enoughNo, fuck that, Marcys whole issue literally revolves around her avoiding her real life problems to live in escapism and is something that gets her KILLED. They are leaving Amphibia, period.
>>124597768>I didn’t come here to convince anybody, just to give my opinion. I forgot how sensitive you all are. Next time I’ll have discussions on places where people don’t lose their shit over disagreements.It's your attitude, your acting like a spoilt child to people who disagree or saying things in an unpleasant manner, Get the fuck over yourself.
>>124597662>character moves on from fantastical setting but grew because of it and will use said growth in her normal lifeBoiling Isles isn't Narnia, or wonderland. It's a lot more grounded in reality, despite the fantasy elements. It's possibly be for Luz to live a "normal" life there.
>>124597799Christ you really are pleasant to be around aren't you.
>>124597720>Anne actually has a life on earth, Luz doesn't.Anne only had her parents. Her only friends were Sasha and Marcy, who were bad to her. She’s on equal grounds with Luz.
>>124597768The projection in this post is hilarious.
>>124597850>She’s on equal grounds with Luz.>equalReally?Luz has no friends at all there and she only has her mother, Luz has it worse than Anne.
>>124597848Well I bring arguments while you bring insults, so you tell me.>>124597820Fuck off, you fags started insulting me the second I posted my opinion and all replies to my arguments are insults. It’s not my fault you’re all so pissy and sensitive about this show.
>>124591952I had to shrink it a bit to get it to post on 4chan, but those dialogue boxes were bothering me. Here's my shitty attempt at a fix.
>>124597734>>124597850Oh you're one of those people who thinks Amphibia won't end with Anne and the girls still being friends huh. That explains a lot.
>>124597887>Fuck off, you fags started insulting me the second I posted my opinion and all replies to my arguments are insultsWelcome to 4chan, Please show yourself out.
>>124597906>Oh you're one of those people who thinks Amphibia won't end with Anne and the girls still being friends huh.So not going back to amphibia equals the girls not being friends anymore?You sure do love making baseless assumptions, don't you?
>>124597926You're the one who argued Anne has nothing on earth like Luz does.
>>124597925>welcome to 4chanI've been in enough threads to know not everyone is a sensitive fuck who gets pissy and insults anyone who brings a different opinion. So you guys are a special kind of retarded.>>124597944Yeah, cause Sasha and Marcy were in Amphibia with her.>>124597842I admit that the shitty real life elements that destroy the setting do exist, but it still not enough. Eda straight up says there are shit that Luz cannot eat from the isles.
>>124597982>I've been in enough threads to know not everyone is a sensitive fuck who gets pissy and insults anyone who brings a different opinion. So you guys are a special kind of retarded.And I'm sure you've been the most popular princess in all of them and not the spazz who can't handle any disagreement.
>>124593336>tfw no beastkeeping gf
>>124597982I think you are analysing the show from your perspective of what it "should be" rather than what it actually is. If the boiling isles really were as hostile to Luz's presence as you say, and if it was merely an escapist fantasy, then yeah, Luz leaving like in your typical portal fantasy story would make sense. In this case, it's clear that that's not what they're going for.
>>124597901Your efforts are appreciated, Anon
>>124598080He's voice by that Polly Pocket character in Toy Story 4, I liked her.
>Rayne is in bard coven>Eda wears a lot of redLol I bet the wedding Luz accidentally spoiled was theirs
I want to see these two killing each other so bad.
What the fuck is a bard?>>124598257And then they have sex with each other
>>124598033>and not the spazz who can't handle any disagreement.I mean I've certainly handled it better than all of you who lose their shit at the slight disagreement. Compared to you I'm a fucking queen of manners. I don't care about different opinions as long as they arent autistic seething like half this thread.>>124598114>I think you are analysing the show from your perspective of what it "should be" rather than what it actually is. we are talking about the ending of the show. Its not over yet, so any theories of how it ends exist in the realm of how it "should be">In this case, it's clear that that's not what they're going for.The fact the last episode establishes how out of her depth she is in the isles and not knowing her future is enough set up to speculate.
>>124598289>I mean I've certainly handled it better than all of you who lose their shit at the slight disagreement. Compared to you I'm a fucking queen of manners. I don't care about different opinions as long as they arent autistic seething like half this thread.And you keep proving with every post.
>>124598289Go troll some other thread.
>>124590858>>124597413This guy's art is fantastic and the small doodles are cute as fuck
>>124598335>And you keep proving with every post.hey, I actually bother to explain myself, unlike half the thread which is just insults. Don't blame me for your attitude>>124598341If trying to talk about something of worth is "trolling" then yeah, I guess I'm gonna "troll" the Amphibia thread. Those actually seem to have discussions. Funny that huh.
>>124598327I see. I understand completely now.
>>124598392Dana has good taste
>>124598327so are you people just stalking her now
>>124598376>I guess I'm gonna "troll" the Amphibia thread. Those actually seem to have discussions. Funny that huh.I was in the Amphibia threads. They were a lot more chill than you were and actually had some fun. you, your just a prick.
>>124598416This is all public on her twitter dude
>>124598327HEY, they added King and Eda in the description of Eclipse Lake, that's interesting.
>>124598431I remember him from those threads, he always made them miserable when he sperged out.
>>124598327I do wonder if Kiki is also there, just to make Hunter look less bad when he jobs horribly they're like team rocket now, except they want to kill each other
>>124598289Stressing over not knowing your future path is standard cartoon stuff. That's a far cry from the boiling isles being framed as a super alien world Luz can't stay in forever. They even referenced this trope, because they're going to subvert it.
>>124598327>Luz wonders if she should returnWho's gonna push her through the portal as the mid season shocker?Dubs decide
Why's this dude so mad about the idea of Luz living in Witchland instead of going back to Earf to be a miserable wageslave?
>>124598660dubs and sneed (yes, THE Al Sneed from THE SIMPSONS) will
>>124598437That's still stalking.Modern def, anyway.
>>124598701He’s mad that anons were mean to him.
Amphibia threads were fun
>>124598293What the fuck is Bard not the coven what is a bard?
>>124598431>They were a lot more chill than you were and actually had some fun.Probably cause disagreements didn’t lead to people throwing a hissy fit and throwing insults.>>124598489Never caused any trouble on those threads. Didn’t need to, difference of opinions were welcomed. Seems owl house fans can’t handle that. My bad, I forgot you don’t like discussions. I’ll leave you to your image posting and shipping. Truly content of worth.
>>124598660Hunter and Amity, both deciding that she's safer in the human world, while Eda silently but heartbreaking approve'sThe final scene of the episode Is Luz confronting her mother and her doublegannger.
>>124598660Amity would totally do it because it's the right thing to do, even if it hurts
>>124598655>Stressing over not knowing your future path is standard cartoon stuff>they’re going to subvert itMake up your mind, is it standard cartoon stuff or a subversion?
>>124590732I think if, and I know this is an impossibility but, if the writers should pull the biggest straightening of a shoehorned dyke in Disney history, it will probably cause the 41%'ers on the internet to make good on it in a simultaneous mass extinction that will bring about the birth of Slaanesh herself.
>>124598701He is a pressured child coping by lashing out in the internet.
>>124598785Subvert the 'return to the real world' trope.
>>124598660Kiki does it just to fuck with them
Amity is a Disney Princess.
>>124598763>Never caused any trouble on those threads. Didn’t need to, difference of opinions were welcomed. Seems owl house fans can’t handle that. My bad, I forgot you don’t like discussions. I’ll leave you to your image posting and shipping. Truly content of worth.We were fine until you showed up.God, I pity the Amphibia threads if this is how you act.
Is America really that good Luz? Think about it you live in Biden's world now where black people can destroy places whenever they feel like it, the country is being pumped full of non citizens using up resources, and the young are being brainwashed into believing irrational nonsense like LGBT rather than you know getting a basic education. America is a dypstopian nightmare compared to the Boiling Isles.
>>124598701>hey I don’t think Luz should stay>”lol look at this retard faggot”>hey I’m just saying>”retaaaard cope”You tell me>>124598742>>124598815still making assumptions I see. Cute
>>124598756they sing and make music and I guess it like makes you better at stuff and buffs you?
>literal hours later>he's still goingDude, get off the computer. Escapism is bad, right? Interact with the real world instead of this internet fantasy land
>>124598852It was annoying for where lol.
>>124598173I thought she was voiced by their voice director (which often happens when you have a minor/one-off character you didn't bother finding an actual VA for), but that's Boscha.
>>124598852>We were fine until you showed upYou weren’t, I’ve seen it. Amphibia threads will be fine considering discussion if the girls leave or stay in amphibia were frequent and regular with less seething than in here.>>124598838Anons can’t even bring up examples of that recently, what is that subverting then?
>>124598842>Amity is a Disney Princess.No, she's a queen. a cuckqueen
>>124598867So being a musician requires being in seperate coven? Thats stupid anyone should be able to become a musician.
>>124598871>Escapism is bad, right? Interact with the real world instead of this internet fantasy landSays the other anon who is also still in the same thread, funny that. If you’re so bothered, how about you leave? Or are you so mad someone disagrees with you that you feel compelled to stay?
>The mask fell off.>The horns are still in place
>>124598918there is still magic, and you can play an instrument but not use the magic associated with it
>>124598660The only character who can have faults. It's gotta be Hunter
>>124598864You’re being rude in realization to rudeness. Does that not qualify as mad? Anyway your lingering presence despite suggesting a departure has convinced me you’re just aggressing manchinldren for (You)s. I enjoyed your difference of opinion but now I can’t say I’m sad to see you go.
>>124596805oh that's Gaunter O'Dimm. He's a lovely fellow. always willing to lend a helping hand
>>124598900Really, What was wrong with it then,>>124598894she's also the voice of Maggie in Amphibia. I miss Maggie posting.
>>124598842Nice find, lmao.>first gay Disney princessSuck Elsa, you frigid ho.
>>124598900Now you're being obtuse. Portal fantasies almost always end with the protag returning to the 'real world.' Alice in Wonderland, Narnia, Wizard of Oz, to name a few.
>>124598929>dear god, they're part of his skull nowWENDIGO! WENDIGO! BELOS TURNED INTO A WENDIGO!
>>124598963>examples that are decades oldHP is a more recent example and Harry stayed with his magic life
>>124598940Hunter is interesting because he is allowed to actually have flaws and fuck up and do morally questionable stuff
>>124598977That's because Harry was a wizard
>>124598977That's not a portal fantasy. Also, fuck off. You asked for examples, and I gave some.
>>124598963Because those are supposed to be self inserts for escapism by the ones reading those stories in reality an actual isekaied person wouldnt want to ever go back home. Just the revelation there is more than one universe in existence would make your brain explode.
>>124598977Not the same.
>>124598941>You’re being rude in realization to rudeness. Does that not qualify as mad?hey, this is 4chan. If you act like an ass, you will be treated like an ass. You straight-up admit you were all rude, which is a start.>I enjoyed your difference of opinionyou clearly didn't give your replies, you were just like everyone else seething at the sight of someone with a different opinion. I'm guessing you sorta realized your error but feel to prideful to commit and just want to insult me. Typical behavior on these threads I see.This all could have been avoided if you just ignored my posts or just replied like a normal person. You didn't, so you get this. Next time, learn to behave.
>>124598842This is funny but I'm so tired of Little Miss Perfect
>>124599013... Really I'd like to go home, Sure I'd have a harem but honestly I prefer earth. Also, More then one universe would make my head explode. Really?
>>124599034cope seethe dilate
>>124598660King, who'll fall in too
>>124599008>You asked for examples, and I gave some.but those are years old and to subvert expectations is if you do it different from recent works. To make fun of Disney now after Shrek is not really subversion, is it. Same for evil superman trope.
>>124599056>reduced to buzzwordsI broke the owl house fans I see. Cool.
>>124599008>That's not a portal fantasy.Not him, but it most certainly is. It's just that the magical world is hidden, rather than completely separated.
>>124599059Accidentally, you mean? Because King wants Luz to go back the least.
>>124598954She was also the Joisey girls. You can either call it typecasting, or specializing.
>>124599049Look thats nice and all but there are infinite realities to explore and learn about it its the ultimate goal for an consciousness that exists to experience everything.
>>124599008>>124599026>kid who has a miserable life on earth because hes a bit weird and different finds out about a magical place where he goes to school, makes friends, gets a rival, falls in love, gets a special pet, gets paternal figures in their life, and has owl motifs>not the sameyeah sure
>>124599124>Accidentally, you mean?Yeah of course
>>124599093Christ I pity the Amphibiba threads. If you are the type that hangs around them, I bet you don't even know what Skaven are?
>>124598660obviously, just, needs a little more time before he can get back up
>>124599164>I bet you don't even know what Skaven are?I know that meme, its fun. Dont pity the amphibia threads, whenever I disagree with the general opinion people either ignore me or reply appropiately, like normal people do. I forgot owl fans arent normal people.
>>124598660she stays after seeing camilla happy with creepy luz
>>124599131>Look thats nice and all but there are infinite realities to explore and learn about it its the ultimate goal for an consciousness that exists to experience everything.Yeah but 90 percent of those are gonna be shit.>Look the only thing that's different here is the traffic lights are purple instead of red there noting interesting here we're moving the fuck on.
>>124599073It's not a subversion of Disney. It's a subversion of the portal fantasy sub-genre. Over the garden wall would be another, more modern example of this. >>124599098I guess. Its slightly different though because the magical world actually comes to Harry.
>>124599221>Over the garden wall would be another, more modern example of this.but OTGW ends with the characters leaving. Isn't that what you say will be subverted?
>>124599188>reply appropiatelyThat is the saddest thing, those threads really have gone down hill.
>>124599188This argument has gotten stupid but people went so hard against you because you tried shit like saying Luz staying in the BI is unnatural and she fits in better on earth which is so far proven to not be the case. You could've just left it at "I don't want Luz to have a happy ending" and nobody would fucking care.
>>124599221>I guess. It's slightly different though because the magical world actually comes to Harry.Luz met Owlbert and it's what led her to the portal door.
>>124599221>the magical world actually comes to HarryLike it came to Luz through Owlbert instead of Hagrid?Oh, no. Is the guy who always compares this to HP because there's a school in a few episodes right?
>>124599146It doesn't fit cleanly into the portal sub-genre like owl house does. Luz literally goes through a portal to another world. In HP, the magical world comes to him, and isn't actually separate from the real world. There are strong similarities, but is not quite the same imo.
>>124599193I do wonder about creepy Luz, like where did she come from? is the door creating 'evil' clones when a human steps through it? is there something else about it? what is the meaning behind the giant eye?
>>124599245Yes? Luz will stay.
>>124599280>isn't actually separate from the real world
Amity will push her in after they either hand hold, hug or kiss.
>>124599262>but people went so hard against you because you tried shit like saying Luz staying in the BI is unnatural and she fits in better on earthand I offered arguments as to why I thought that, and rather than have normal disagreements you all went ballistic at the idea that somebody doesn't want a generic happy ending. >You could've just left it at "I don't want Luz to have a happy ending" and nobody would fucking care.except that wasn't my point at all, and the fact you believe that proves you didn't understand my point at all.>>124599255Yeah, amphibia threads are really sad. They have regular conversations among the shitposts and difference of opinions are accepted. Really shitty right? Anyone who doesn't fit the hivemind should be bullied.
>>124599193I'm torn between Camila liking Creepy Luz for the angst, and Camila beating the shit out of Creepy Luz for the spectacle.
>>124599333OH RASCAL YOU RAPSCALLION
>>124599273Not the same thing. The magical world specifically seeks out and intrudes upon Harry's world.
>>124599280>In HP, the magical world comes to him, and isn't actually separate from the real world.if you remember it wrong Owlbert literally shows up near Luz and is the catalyst that drives her to the Isles. Also, to go to the HP world you need to ride a special train or another magical form of transportation. You cant go to Hogwarts with a regular car even if you wanted to.>>124599356an owl visits harry and an owl visits Luz. You cant say there are no similarities there.
>>124599333will be brutally killed by Belos
>>124592813Fuck, I won't be in the country. Anons, pls record and put it in a mega.
>>124599350>>124599333The bird was the mastermind all along
>>124599367I never said there weren't similarities, just that I wouldn't call HP a portal fantasy, at least not strictly.
>>124599377>Rascal pushes Luz through the door and Belos stabs himJust like my Amphibias
>>124599378It's on YouTube so won't it be recorded there anyway?
>>124599406>Disney's algorithms have decided that "portals + stabbing" is the best combo for views and shoehorns it into every show
>>124599444Jesus christ it keeps happening
>>124599333Holy fuck, this bird is a GET magnet >>124590792>>124599406Kek.
Amity season 1>ambitious pretentious little girl with anger problems and personal issues she works on to improve as a person. Also develops a crush on Luz.Amity on season 2>Love interest for LuzWhat a downgrade
>>124599480>Amity on season 2Season 2 is not over yet.
>>124599406Wouldnt surprise me if Dana takes a few pages from her co-workers honestly
>>124599480Amity is season 2>ballsy, breaks away from her parents and thrashes Hunter
Dana likes:>https://twitter.com/ArtifactsHub_/status/1418085971397066756?s=20Belos ain't some handsome man underneath that mask
>>124599324>Anyone who doesn't fit the hivemind should be bullied.Dude, it's your fucking attitude. You've come in here saying it's unnatural that Luz being in the isles is unnatural without explaining why that's bad. the problem here seems to be that people disagree with you and constantly lose your shit.Explain to me how it's bad if Luz can travel between wolds give me a good reason for why and then maybe we can have a discussion.
>>124599467indeed>>124599444>>124599473Little rascal's yandere tendencies put Kiki to shame, she's next, she won't even see it coming
>>124599490>Season 2 is not over yet.highly doubt a turnaround is happening with how its being setup>>124599503>ballsy, breaks away from her parentsbecause of her crush, not out of complete independence.
>>124599534You realize all her actions are her own? Luz is just the motivation while also Luz learns things from Amity. Luz really has a problem of not deserving love.
>>124599534>because of her crush, not out of complete independence.IT could be the start of her independence.
>>124599512>600 year old mummyoh boy, he is the 400+ year old Phillip isn't he?
>>124599520>You've come in here saying it's unnatural that Luz being in the isles is unnatural without explaining why that's bad.I explained, you people didn't want to listen and treat all my arguments as nothing despite the fact I explained every fucking thing I said. I dont care if people disagree with me, my issue is that none of you read my posts and get sensitive that somebody offers a difference of opinion, so you lose your shit and start spamming insults rather than just moving on and ignoring my posts if a difference of opinion is that offensive to you people.>Explain to me how it's bad if Luz can travel between wolds give me a good reason for why and then maybe we can have a discussion.I already have done this and all of you have just thrown me shit, but fine, here goes, AGAIN for the people with bad readin comprehension. Luz should not get everything she wants and learn to let go of her fantasy world because it makes the story more impactful if we see her leave the place of her adventures rather than her just getting what she wants and staying in the place she is now. The main villain also wants to have a combination between earth and magic and is portrayed as a bad guy, plus elements that show Luz is not fit for the isles as a human such as being unable to eat some food from it. THERE, is that hard enough for you to wrap your head around? Do I have to talk dumber for you to get it?!
>>124599569Your right this poor girl needs love. Family from Eda and king, and romantic from Amity, and friendship from Gus, WIllow, and Hunter
>>124599603Wow, we made it halfway this time. Mayve next time people will actually remember the page 10 rule.
>>124599569>You realize all her actions are her own?Sure, but you could say this about most stock love interests. Mary Jane chooses Peter in the day of her wedding all on her own, but that still doesnt mean shes an independent character who works on her own, shes a love interest for Peter, and all her actions circle around Peter Parker, thats her role.>>124599624So why is it that Luz gets to have all that but Amitys life revolves around Luz? Shes supposed to be friends with Gus and Willow yet she never hangs out with them separately
>>124599659Luz is the protag. Also Amity does hangout with Willow and Gus.
>>124599679>Also Amity does hangout with Willow and Gus.when?
>>124599618What I'm getting is that you hate people being happy and want them to be as miserable as you.>elements that show Luz is not fit for the islesVersus the whole first episode showing she isn't fit for normal human life?
>>124599618>I already have done this and all of you have just thrown me shit, but fine, here goes, AGAIN for the people with bad readin comprehension. Luz should not get everything she wants and learn to let go of her fantasy world because it makes the story more impactful if we see her leave the place of her adventures rather than her just getting what she wants and staying in the place she is now. The main villain also wants to have a combination between earth and magic and is portrayed as a bad guy, plus elements that show Luz is not fit for the isles as a human such as being unable to eat some food from it.Okay, So how is that just the only ending they need to go with. Because why not have her sacrifice her way to get home like in the final moment of the show have her give up her way to get home a brief goodbye and then she loses, but because she was willing to grow she gets the chance to go back.There's more than one way to tell a story and no offense but you really don't seem to want to discuss things you keep talking about how we should ignore you but you constantly respond, and in a really insulting manner. you need to know when you're just wasting energy.Why are you even here, clearly this is not helping either of us.
>>124594439>Don't be like Star's fan base who were blind AF to the point they have to make a character gay to prove Starco was endgame.>Would be based if they made Hunter gay.
>>124591098I want to lick her feet
>>124591470Better than before
>>124594943If anyone can discuss something other than Lumity for once, it will be Dana
>>124596883>you can't bring your problems and culture to a place it does not fit in, belong, or owe you anything and then expect them to conform to itFTFY
>>124598954Maggie posting was cringe
>>124600345It really is
>>124598993A coincidence he is also meant to represent a white male...
>>124599502Do we think owl house will get a WTF scene like that?
>>124598926 He's mocking you, you sad moron.