But isn't this basically just good Doom vs Luthor?
>>124573267Devil Artemis is the animator for the Palpatine vs Xehanort DBX, which means the lightsaber vs Keyblade sequences are probably going to suck. Which is a shame.
>FTL>Moon level>abstract powers (can send people to books)Who the fuck could beat him?
>1-A Alien X on VSBattleswiki being discussedHalbros....
>>124573808They're the same breed of paint huffers that think Hellboy is universe level. Who cares what they think?
>>124573808>Taking VSBattleswiki seriously
>>124573852a lot normies flock there and trust what they say sadly
Could you imagine if superman was treated like Ben or Goku are by the vs community? Those two get wanked to high heaven by statements and multipliers, but supes has a fuckton of amazing feats and they get ignored
EVABROS THIS CANT BE REAL
>>124573903It is because the vs community is mostly filled with weebs who only know Superman from the Justice League cartoon
>>124573267still can't believe Doom won>luthor merged with god amazo and brainiacthis feat alone makes dr doom ant in front of him
>>124573953DCAU Amazo has to be the most overhyped piece of Shuri have ever seen, his best feat is teleporting a planet, he literally cannot handle dark magic, and frankly he only beat JLU Justice League, whose Superman can barely handle a nuclear bomb
>>124573768he actually got a Universal level feat in episode 14 if those books count as one universe each...
>>124573808Checked the thread and it’s actually a joke, it’s just giving him plot hax
>>124573768He couldn't beat him but it would be fun
>>124573953>he thinks the DCAU is canonEven if it was, outside help isn't permitted, and Doom's stolen OG Beyonder's powers
>>124573768Roger loses his powers and dies if he stops being an asshole, so realistically someone who can infect him with empathy like a Carebear
>>124573903>>124573944I mean most of the VS community accepts Superman being pretty strong. Even Seth, the resident DB wanker, straight up admitted to Superman winning the fight before he even gets his wankier shit like Torquasm Vo.
>>124573903VsBattles weird fixation with not making Superman Universe level despite everybody else thinking he is stupid. They’ve literally stated his 40+ universal feats are “outliers”
>>124574517At this point I think it has to be a inside meme...I've seen people hell Seth included state that they've seen WAY more in your face Universal Superman feats than Solar System level feats.>Vsbattlewiki: Nah he Peak Solar System
>>124573923>Hasn't sold out, despite being the only new Death Battle product released during RTX>RWBY has sold out like 6 items released during RTXDBfags are so useless. You truly cannot count on them.
>>124574799Even the most diehard DBZfags could agree that Superman isn’t Solar System level with any bit of research. Like they literally have other versions of Superman be Universal level as well so I don’t get the butthurt over Post-Crisis being one. The fuckin horse show has Universal level characters on there but not FUCKIN SUPERMAN
>>124573903The VS community doesn’t read comics, anon. They literally don’t know or care about the feats of comic book characters.
>>124574799Actually they’re going to give him a statistic for him not holding back but the problem is that his solar system shit is actually from him suppressing himself so he might get upgraded
yeah but batwank is a thing
>>124573937how is a nuclear explosion solar system level?
>>124574935Their card game sold out recently. Although it took them a full year to sell it out, but hey, at least that's something. The Renamon/Bayonetta poster also sold out quickly, although it was probably available in very limited quantities, since I don't recall seeing that available on their store. I missed it, but one anon here did post pics of the one he/she bought. https://store.roosterteeth.com/collections/death-battle/products/death-battle-the-gameThe problem is the rest of their merch, which outside of the First Fallen, I don't think it's that much of a hit with most viewers. You would think that by now they would have released a Superman/Goku shirt or poster or a 2nd Fallen shirt. All those missed opportunities.
>>124573953All three of them are like little bitches compared to the magic Doom can wield.
>>124578179That’s actually Godzilla from IDW, who Mothra scales to>>124577511It’s more of the Star absorption and black hole force field destruction
>>124579167Meant to reply to>>124578214
Wait when did Showa get an upgrade?
>>124574799>>124574517He should be put as varried on vs since it literally is canon that his power fluctuates. Something to the degree of:>Varies, 5-B to 4-B up to 3-AI think they might actually be changing it though.
>>124579285Recently mainly because of Zone Fighter scaling
>>124573267Yeah, but this time Luthor has the power absorbing chaos emerald.
>>124579415If they were smart, they'd do it by writer runs.
>>124573267Hellbat armor is literally god armor. It's probably second strongest DC armor after the Entropy Aegis.
>>124573852they have hellboy at large town
>>124574517if you are curious, here are the rebutal to his universal feat they give >Nebula Man/Neh-Buh-Loh is not the greatest to use for scaling. When he appeared back in the Bronze Age he was compared to (iirc) atomic bombs power-wise, and he's never demonstrated anything remotely approaching universal power. Sure he's a sentient universe, but he's also a human-sized, fairly weak one.>Supes fought Brainiac 13 in the present, and wasn't he only universal in the future era? Unless I'm misremembering >what I believe was a Young Justice comic during OWAW. Who knows what upgrades he could've gotten in between. Plus his timeline ravaging was definitely not any sort of physical ability (although you could kind of make the same argument for Infinite Zamasu granting DB Low 2-C physical power so...eh)>I never got around to fixing Orion's profile but the short story is, he is almost never operating at full power and Superman in no way scales to his Astro Force's full potential.>Universal black hole was a dream/illusion. The closest you could get to this would be one of the creators stating on twitter that it was an "illusion" like in Hindu mysticism and use some very generous logic to make it a true alternate reality. For obvious reasons, that wouldn't fly here, and nor should it.>People knock back and draw a small amount of blood from characters they don't scale to all the time. Prime is way beyond MMH in power.
>>124580481cont>Shaking the heavens isn't universal and those were alternate timeline versions from when the world was remade in Trinity by Kurt Busiek.>That was the other Monarch, who should definitely not scale to universal.>Captain Atom is most likely talking about his "normal" state, not his full power.>The tesseract swarm is cool, but has nothing to do with universal power.>Dominus is a scrub and the way his powers work means it's not really feasible to use him to upgrade Superman.>Superman was having a hard time just dealing with the Queen's fictional creations, plus she's a reality warper.>Calling energy 4D is pretty weak evidence for universal power imo, although Ultima would be better suited to evaluate that.That's not Brainiac 13.>For Aztek, see my point above. Again, Ultima would be good to get in here though.>Lord of Time is called 4D because he's a time traveler/abuser, kind of like Kang. He's not universal in power.>Why is Alchemy's storm universal? Just being called cosmic isn't enough.
>>124574940>The fuckin horse show has Universal level charactersWhat? Who?
>>124580616All the god tiers mainly because of the comics which was made canon despite being non canon originally and the human spin-off movie where the main villain threatened to destroy both the human universe and the pony universe
>>124580785>The comics are canonOkay I guess that makes sense, but the comics shouldn't have been canon and neither should Equestria Girls.
>>124580481>Yes he's a sentient universe, but does that mean he's powerful?>Brainiac 13 was only universal in the future era. I know he time traveled back to the present, but eh.>Orion doesn't scale to Superman because HEADCANNON>Universal black hole was an illusion, even though Generations Shattered confirms Dominus was a legit reality warpers.>Superman doesn't scale to Prime Time because HEADCANNON>Superman doesn't scale to Captain Atom because HEADCANNONAm I the only one who thinks its hilarious they're willing to have Captain Atom/Flash/Green Lantern/Orion/Prime at universe level, but god forbid Superman. Anyone but Superman.
>>124582043It’s literally because of goku vs superman, that’s it
>swan said superman is outerversal easily>hinted at GvS 3Gokufags should be shitting themselves rn
>>124582187They really, really should. The writing is on the wall.
>>124582409First Ozone club character in death battle
>>12458240920 million universes Goku or whatever is nothing compared to outerversal
>>124574517>>124574799I think the issue is that if Superman is universe level, any random villain or hero that gives him trouble physically suddenly gets boosted to universe level too, even if there's nothing else indicating it.
>>124582914Same shit happens in Dragon Ball. Every fucking rando in the tournament of power is supposed to be able to crush universes with their pinkies, even the fodder furries.
>>124573267what's the ironman armor on the right? I see some gear shoulders, is it related to Tony Stark's brother? or was he retconned out of continuity already?
>>124582950>>124582914Lasti chapter of Dragon Ball Super or so had Goku blocking the new baddie’s attacks with a tree
>>124573267what kind of retarded match up is that? No version of Arno as any feat comparable to batwank: the armor
>>124582187>>124582278>>124582438>>124582481>loses twice>second time even said he could never win>still somehow lives rent free in DCfags minds
>36 light year universe vs "60 trillion lys after the first second since the big bang" DC universe.Goku "being universal" would be a dwarf galaxy level in the DC universe.
>>124584171why is it 36 light years again, we see a bunch of galaxies when they summon the super dragon, the 4 galaxy shit has been retconned
>>124583315I get that Granolah doesn't want to destroy his planet but still his destructive attacks are zarbon tier
>>124584325Unless toriyama has changed the location of planet namek, then 36 lys is the approximate distance between earth and said planet based on the information given to us.
>>124573267Are goku ui and moro angel weaker than red goku and beerus?
>ACTUALLY Alien X can time travel so he can go back in time to when Hal didn't have his powers>and by the way, the Omnitrix has a failsafe to where it won't let ANYTHING harm Ben and it can react to the big bang>and Ben combine aliens too so like Alien X combined with echo echo which would result in thousands of Alien X's not even counting X's own cloning so Hal would be going up against thousands of omnipotent beings>OH and Ben 10,000 is literally the same Ben as the show and he has wayy more aliens. Giving Alien X even more potential powers that we don't know about
>>124573267>moro>multi galaxy levelhttps://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Moro
>>124585093Why does everyone keep saying Alien X can time travel better than Hal when he has never actually done it?
>>124582481>outerversalI don’t know what this means
>>124585541super duper mega universal level
>>124585551isn’t that just metaversal
>>124573267Superman, Goku meet your new god and masterhttps://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Amitabha_(Touhou_Project)
>>124585667>only Universe+ levelSuperCHAD beats him.
>>124585730He's 4 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 090 909 larger than the observable universe
>xehanort vs sheev is finally happening>it's on a dbx>sheev is gonna win because of memes even though xehanort is everyone including (you)damn you monkey's paw
>>124585779Superman lifted a book with the entire multiverse inside it. That’s infinite universes. Infinity > that number.
>>124585830Bendis said that superman is not even planet level. Checkmate
>>124585847Yeah well Joe Casey said Superman’s powers have no limits whatsoever and that Superman is millions of times stronger than Thor. Debunked.
>>124585793Based memes giving kingdom hearts an L.
>>124585459Toyotaro is a shit writter that can't keep his shit consistent, what else is new
>>124585541outerversal means beyond dimensions, so a tier above infinite dimensional
>>124585894Meanwhile goku and moro punches>>124585065
>>124585917how is Superman beyond dimensions when he’s 3D
>>124585667they wouldn't even notice each other>>124585830in a metaphysical plane beyond even the sphere of the gods where matter doesn't exist, I wouldn't take that feat literally when nearly every superman story ever shows him have some kind of limit, even Morrison written one. Also that just gets you weird shit like every justice league member being infinite and basically everything being
>>124585881That means Thor is also infinite, infinite / ten millions = infinite
>>124585886kingdom hearts has memes too.
>>124586016Ever heard of the Beyonder being ‘millions of times stronger’ than the entire Marvel Multiverse? There’s layers to infinity.
>>124585946regular superman isn't, but the though robot that exist in the monitor sphere may be
>>124586032Supes can be stronger than Thor, he would still be infinite by that definition
>>124585991>matter doesn’t exist You can literally throw people through windows and watch the glass break. Matter clearly exists. It’s just pure narrative there, before the monitor sphere which is beyond narrative and consumes narratives. Superman carrying the book of infinite pages means he can lift the entire multiverse or can exist within a purely narrative structure and lift infinite narratives which house infinite universes for each stack in the narrative.
Goku and Moro are slow as heck
>>124586069yeah I have no problem accepting Thor as infinite since he moved the worldtree which has infinite universes inside it
>>124586090Gotenks by comparison
>>124573326what do you mean?
>>124585894>>124585944The most likely explanation is that god of destruction energies have exotic effects that multiply destructive potential, or Beerus is still top dog only below angels and Zeno.
>>124586075it's a representation for the sake of the reader, boom tube makes superman much bigger so that he can act on new genesis and apokalyspse, limbo exist on a metaphysical space even above that and it was literally ststed on screen that matter doesn't exist there and that it's a realm of idea.
>>124586120Superman didn’t take a boomtube to limbo. He took the monitor ship which simply vibrates to different dimensions like speedsters. And there’s “no material thing TO BE DESTROYED” in Limbo, because nothing can change in Limbo as merryman said, yet he was proven wrong when Superman and Captain Marvel were able to lift the book when otherwise it couldn’t be lifted.
>>124586117So full power beerus>goku ui>=moro angel>jiren>god of destruction>>>>>>goku red and beerus restricted?
>>124586214What's retarded? Toyotaro writing skills?
>>124573267Is vegeta (saiyan saga) stronger than granolah?https://youtu.be/Xnqtg0bte6w
>>124586342even king vegeta is https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jHLfhI0H_GA
>>124573267This guy is inexplicably something I'd love to see in DB, or in more VS debates in general.
>>124586155>He took the monitor ship which simply vibrates to different dimensions like speedstersbut limbo exist several layers above the speedforce. Also superman in base being infinite contradict basically every other superman story, including those written by Morrison.
>>124586492yeah but speedsters have gone to the source wall before using speed alone. The speedforce exists on a lower level of existence but you can still use it to transport you layers of existence above the speedforce itself.>younger non-canon Superboy means that Morrison thinks that Superman has limits Cope. He’s said otherwise in countless interviews.
>>124586412You know is very interesting how this scene implies that the saiyans survived the explosio. Speaking of dbz, namek explosion was galactic in rangehttps://youtu.be/uV2XEHKDMYwMeanwhile, whis is not even sure if planet moro explosion is capable of destroying the galaxy...
>>124586117>The most likely explanation isKi control. The actual explanation is it's Dragon Ball.
>>124573267So far, we can conclude the following:>king vegeta is stronger than granolah, vegeta and goku>gotenks is faster than both moro angel and ui goku>namek saga frieza destructive capabilities are superior to those of planet moro
>>124586556>namek saga Goku is stronger than Moro and therefore stronger than Jiren and BrolyHulk vs Broly rematch when?
>>124580346The Final Suit is stronger. I guess they didn't want to use that so that it's not too unfair, but then again Tony's godkiller is also pretty OP.
>>124586549so I guess every single green lantern, martian, ect can destroy the universe a gogol time over without breaking a sweat or do you think they are less than 0.0000000000[literal infinity]0000001% of his power?Superman can achieve such level in certain perticuliar scennario due to his nature as the center of the metaverse, but that doens't scale to his base. Shit that happens all the time like him getting progressively weaker when not under a sun or getting expose to kryptonite doesn't make sense if he's infinite, unless you think literally every character in DC is infinite
>>124586705Sounds right to me
>>124586705>so I guess every single green lantern, martian, ect can destroy the universe a gogol time over without breaking a sweatYes
>>124586705>Superman can achieve such level in certain perticuliar scennario due to his nature as the center of the metaverse, but that doens't scale to his base.What’s the difference between the two? There’s only one Superman
good thing dbz has better choreographed and more memorable fights than any DC/marvel related battle, haha...
>>124586771>better choreographed and more memorable fights than any DC/marvel related battleENTER
>>124586849go back to batkek and the forgettable cosmic lady throwing planets at each other like a snowball fight
>>124586771touhou fights>dbz fightshttps://youtu.be/sLTpJJAraG8
>>124584006>dbztards have been pushing the "Goku and Broly can beat ANYBODY" memes since 2004>Carrot gets btfo by superman>"W-we never cared about powerlevels, anyway, Superf-fags..."The cope is so real
>>124586863that was retarded. cosmic entity fights should look like the fight with the Beyonder and Molecule Man or the Anti-Monitor and the Spectre.
>>124586677Isn't broly weaker than moro? Then why di you want a rematch?
>>124586860Man, i still remember when a fight being 3d was a hype thing.
>>124586941isn't that a stomp
>>124586860Whoever they got as the VA soundalikes for this one, I gotta give them credit
>>124586860Based, that’s one of my top 5 episodes
>>12458695990% of DB are, still a fun matchup
>>124586961Tim Paige was Raiden, and Xander Mobus was Wolverine. Xander really was the highlight of the episodes, he's almost indistinguishable from the reused Steve Blum lines.
>>124586959Depending on what era he's in it's a stomp one way or the other.
>>124587021i didn't even realize they were using those until someone pointed it out
>>124586860>that moment where wolverine gets his head cut off and the music completely stops
Do people not understand that the manga is weaker than the anime for dbs? Jiren was like galaxy level and kale 1shot all the other universes.
>>124585730>SuperCHAD beats him.Can't even lift steel.
>>124586863angry midget vs football jock: the battle
>>124587131What's wrong with that?
>>124587095Which one is canon?
Who wins Goku vs Superman kid version?
>>124587191Vegeta is an angry midget
>>124587207seperate but equal
>>124587207Both kinda. I think toriyama just has more involvement with the manga. So anything that's canon happened in both the anime/ manga. For example dbs broly movie.
>>124587207Both but separate
>>124587221>>124587237So the 28 planets with life is canon?
>>124587219>angry Have you watched the show at all? https://youtu.be/griJhQUkhwk
>>124587270Was that mentioned in the anime?
>>124587270in the anime continuity, yes
>>124587270yes, even if it doesn't makes sense with the galactic patrol and freaza empire being around
Imagine losing to someone without any powers.
>>124587275>flashbacks of vegeta being an angry midget
Who could he fight?
>>124587324Batman is a literal gary stu though
>>124587324injustice has super power pills
>>124587329So moving beyond being angry doesn't matter to you? You sound like an awful person anon.
>>124587021Xander wasn't mimicking Steve Blum lines though, he was mimicking Cal Dodd.
>>124587301Yes>>124587307>>124587323Oh I see
>>124585459>>124585894>>124585065So if Moro is just galaxy level, why do they still have Goku at multiverse level?>https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Moro
>>124587379Goku height is 175 cm, and vegeta doesn't even reach his stomach...
>>124587418Because muh saiyan multipliers
>>124587418Different continuity its not rocket science. But you being you i can understand why it might be hard to understand.
>>124586117Everyone that doesn't eat paint chips clued into the whole "Beerus+Goku=one universe, Beerus+Champa=two universes" thing and realized that the broad rule of thumb for DBS is that GOD=universe level and all the guys below them are sub-universe.
>>124587430Are you just obsessed with height or something? Remember women only care about how handsome you are anon.
>>124587376DB already has Beyonder at millions of times the entire marvel multiverse. How would Kami cope with that?
>>124587439But he's fighting him using his funky hair colors.>>124587443Oh I see you're ones that things they're going to say, I don't know "Holy god he's about to blow up 1000000 universes" when he Goatlactus goes pop in the anime.Good luck with that. You'll be lucky if they say he's going to take out the universe, and even that will cripple DBS power levels.
>>124587376Tenchi used to be hot shit in the days of old vs battle debates. Now he's not. Pretty much any given cosmic cape character would tear his light hawk wings off and feed them to him.
Who'd be a good fight agienst Charles Barkley (Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden)?
>>124587457>nappa is 210 cm>vegeta is half his height >that means that vegeta is 105 cm
>>124587470Dont know, but people always say Kami Tenchi is unbeatable so might be fun to watch
>>124587470Massive downplay, unless they're talking about multiverse as a catch all term for an infinite dimensional structure that is eternity.
>>124587477Do you think death battle will cut back on the dragonball wank now or will they double down like nothing ever happened?
>>124587477Are you just pretending to be retarded or something?
>>124587418Manga Goku =/= Anime GokuAlso CC Goku =/= Anime Goku either.
>>124573953They're not part of his basic kit, so he doesn't get them. Venom didn't get his codecs shit, Doom didn't get beyonder/beyonderS/power cosmic/etc, etc>But Luthor get the Everyman serum; that's not part of his basic kit!Their reasoning was that he could theoretically reproduce it, so it COULD be part of his kit, but Luthor can't just ring up Brainiac, and Amazo and go "hey uh, wanna fuse so I can beat up this weird european guy?"Like, Spider-man has - at one point - held the Ultimate Nullifier, but it's a unique object in the universe, and not part of his basic kit, so he can't just acquire it on demand. During Bucky vs Redhood they gave Redhood venom, and while it's not part of his basic kit, he COULD have some stashed away - it's not exactly some unique artifact, or entity within the universe.
Since Jojolion is almost over, who wins?
>>124587418because earlier in the manga they state that Goku and Beerus clash was gonna destroy the multiverse. As for the anime it's a completely differnt continuity with only the outlines being the same. Also superman has an ordeal of magnitude more lower showing
>>124587553What’s the connection?
>>124587490What exactly does Tenchi have anyway to make him a threat to Beyonder
>>124587572The dragon ball multiverse is smaller than the milky way
>>124587532>>124587562I love how the manga is now treated as having 1/1000000th the power level of the anime. Watching the Moro arc get adapted is going to be so fun. Tick tock dragonbros before you see what the writers think of your precious headcannon wank.>>124587515They're going to hold onto the anime adaptation as long as they can like drowning men clinging to driftwood. When the arc finally drops and Moro is once again galaxy level, they'll probably have to eat a little crow, but not as much as you might think since it only really flips Broly vs Hulk.>>124587572This is what happens when they don't teach you Newton in school.What happens to a wave in space?
>>124587575Absolutely dick-all. A Green Lantern scrub has good odds at killing him.
Trying to debunk the dbs anime from being universal is gonna happen one day capeworld I promise ill suck your dick when it happens
>>124587418DBS characters are getting weaker by each passing page
>look back at some Reddit threads>they think superman maxes out at moon level
>>124587618>He thinks the Moro arc will actually get adaptedIt won't, it's gonna be whatever movie they're working on and at most a nod to the manga with a new arc.
>The Infinity Gauntlets’s effects reached the home of the BeyondersThis debunks DB’s idea that Darkseid’s true form can’t be affected by the Gauntlet, right? Since Beyonders are by definition beyond the infinite dimensions of the Multiverse like Darkseid is.
>>124587572https://youtu.be/fDOYwQCLmH0?t=176this nigga makes fun of that "feat"
>>124587637Good for Beyonder I guess Though I doubt either are getting inUnless Beyonder gets a movie or something
>>124587664dwarf galaxy my friend, jiren is dwarf galaxy level
Galaxy level void
>>124587618>I love how the manga is now treated as having 1/1000000th the power level of the animeI know that you haven't read or watched either, but only the very basic outline is the same. For exemple, the part where Zamasu merges with the universe isn't in the manga.Also, again, DC has a thruck loads more low ends
>>124587566Fusions that protect humanity from rock people.
>>124587673Eh, Infinity Gauntlet taps at out at about universalDarkseid was destroying the multiverse just falling…
>>124587682He has appearances in cartoons I think
>>124587690Keep crying gokuck I’m sure he will beat superman eventually
>>124587673well that contradicts basically everything else we are ever shown with the IG. Narration boxes can be hyperbolic
>>124587650>>they think superman maxes out at moon levelSuperman literally knocked himself out trying to shatter a moon.And this is a high-end feat for Superman.
>>124587673This looks post recon, the beyond all celestial beyonder was nerf real quick in the comics.
>>124587703an incomplete gauntlet no sold the ultimate nullifier which one shot multi eternity (embodiment of the marvel multiverse)
>>124587491Unironically: Papa NieR.
Zamasu fusing with the timeline was pretty impressive for a galaxy level tier
>>124574007Literally Outside Help: The Form. It's just Molecule Man funneling him Beyonder power remotely.
>>124587721wasn’t that a magic moon
>>124587703>Darkseid was destroying the multiverse just falling…Darkseid haven't destroyed a single universe in his entire publication history. Best he ever did was destroy a planet.
>>124587664"Aw, shit, look at that ant carry that leaf. Man, it's pretty strong for an ant."
>>124587641All you have to do is watch the anime.Dragonbros literally believe that the anime writers think the characters can crush multiverses with their pinkies and that they'll change the scene so that Whis says "Oh no Moro is going to explode and destroy everything in the multiverse." They are that desperate to avoid being FRAUD CHECKED.>>124587649They were always this weak.DBS multiverse bullshit happened because they took Goku vs Beerus, which is transparently mostly Beerus' doing, and slapped Goku into an equation derived from power level math the series dropped when Frieza quoted his power level wrong.This is how the wank works:Goku must be able to destroy a universe because of Beerus (false).A DBS universe=8 universes because HEADCANNON.:You put the 8 into a retconned power level formula taken from Dragon Ball Z sourcebooks.And boom, now Goku and friends are 1 gorillion times multiversal.This is how a character whose biggest feat is getting his shit pushed in by a character that's actually universe level (and he kills himself blowing up a universe to) gets his power level inflated like a Venezuelan dollar until he and everyone next to him can destroy more universes than actually exist in their setting.
>>124587758>wasn’t that a magic moonNope.
>>124586090Literally slower than Toriko characters.
>beerus is stated to be able to destroy universes >jirens stated to be stronger than Gods >mui goku is a technique taught to him by angels who keep GoDs in check Galaxy level ui goku beats a universal level opponent
>>124587705>Goku can't be universal, a character from a different continuity death would destroy a galaxy>superman is infinite because he lifted a book in a metaphysical realm, no literally every other feat in any superman comic pulished since or before don't matter and are all outliers
>all these dragoncucks and Thanosois crying about DCWhen do the benfags join in?
>>124587746How did he even do this? He's a scrub powerlevel wise.
>>124587769Earth-2 and Earth-3. That was like the driving plot of early Nu 52.
>>124587803The only person sad enouph to give a shit about the fight are halcucks.
>>124587690Might as well make DBM canon given that they at least use better measurements than>infinite>macrocosm
>>124587746You mean the guy Goku had to phone his God, the most powerful being in his setting, to deal with?
Dbs bros were galaxy level
>>124587470Too bad pre-retcon Beyonder and post-retcon Beyonder aren't actually separate beings because Marvel doesn't work that way.
>>124587837>Even Beerus-sama and GokuThat indicates a very firm cap that Dragonbros always igmore.
>>124587788>b-but universal dragon ball will eventually be retcon, just you waitalso >DBS multiverse bullshit happened because they took Goku vs Beerus, which is transparently mostly Beerus' doing, and slapped Goku into an equation derived from power level math the series dropped when Frieza quoted his power level wrong.if you actually watched the fight you would know that the way the threat is stopped is by Goku matching Beerus' blows and canceling out the effect.Pretty funny you cling to this one galaxy busting statement, but all the feat and statement that imply superman limit being anything between galaxy and planet level don't mean shit
Superchads I'm sorry
>>124587856Beyonder retconned himself according to marvel guidebooks. Anything he believes about himself is true, so if you make him believe he’s a cosmic cube then he becomes a cosmic cube. Pretty sad really. Kinda like the Sentry if you think about it.
NO KRILLIN! WE AGREED YOU'D HOLD BACK!!
>>124587863You don't know the context, I don't blame you because DBS sucks ass, but please stop spouting bullshit
>>124587703It really didn't use to cap at universal. Magus with the incomplete gauntlet was specifically effecting other universes.
>>124587865He canceled out the effect before it could grow.
>>124587874>Superchads I'm sorry
>>124587874Even if the universe thing is true (it isn’t) superCHAD still stompsI shiggy diggy
>>124587891And what's the context?
>>124587837Dragon ball universe is around 36 lys, by comparison segue 2 (dwarf galaxy) is 221.79 light years
https://youtu.be/mZX9bY5S9dIBros surely they meant the galaxy not universe
>>124587801Yeah, that guy. Themes and shit line up well, and most people with Barkley's archetype are either way above (Kratos, Asura) or way below (Chuck Greene, Sebastian Castellanos) his grade. Alternatively, if you want the contrasts you can go with Jecht.
>>124587908Yeah but why stop there?VSbattle wanki has already kneecapped the power levels of the manga. We just need them to surrender the anime to.
>>124587837>>124587874This is a GoD feat, not a Goku feat, and people need to get over it.It's reaffirmed when the same thing happens when Beerus and Champa fight but DOESN'T happen when Goku fights dudes stronger than he was at the point of this fight.
>>124587894It’s more complete universe, you know? There’s affecting another universe and theres destroying it entirely When it tried to stop an incursion, toys obliteration, it managed to do it but busted
>>124587874Meanwhile this is the damage caused by goku ui vs angel moro
>>124587837>people, planets, gods like us, even Beerus-Sam’s and Goku, will be completely destroyed!Beerus universal durability CONFIRMED.
>>124587959Galaxy sized universe
>>124587908>Barely able to deflect 1 megaton>UniversalSuperchuds IQ levels hitting the negatives.
>>124587984>Beerus can be killed by a rookie Green LanternGoku bros….
>>124587950Capeworld thinks that the entire setting is galaxy+++++ highball
>>124587992dwarf galaxy, my friend dwarf galaxy
>>124587992>36 light years
>>124587950Ex-fucking-actlyGoku+Beerus=1Champa+Beerus=2It says everything you need to know about the power levels.>>124588007Nope. But it sure as fuck isn't 8 gorillion universes.
>Imagine counting pixel to discredit the official source material.
>>124574288Not if he's Ricky Spanish
>>124588007Capeword is retarded, like how has it taken this long for you all to realize this.
GOKUBROS THE SUPERCHADS ARE MAKING FUN OF US AGAIN
>>124587950Fair, but doesn't that mean Vegeta has it now since he has his own Hakai form now?
Alien X (Ben 10) Alien X's Profile (Both were Low 2-C, Ultra Instinct Goku was used and he was bloodlusted, they started 10 meters from each other, the battle took place at the tournament arena at the World of Void and Speed was equalized)>incon Nah goku should've lost hes not ben ten alien x tier at all
>>124588032>dbztards can't do basic math
>Casually nullifies infinite universal energies.Superchads, this isn't going to end well is it?
>>124588050No, unless actually shown or easily extrapolated from a greater or equal feat.
>>124588032Wair, so the dragon ball universe is 4 galaxies?
>>124588032>The solar system counts as a galactic nebulaUm...dragonbros...?
>>124588065>Superchuds being illiterate per usual
>>124587337would the infinity gauntlet even do anything to raise the Beyonder's power level?
REMINDER. If you want people to take the claim that your favorite character can destroy or no sell billions of universes worth of energy then you should AT LEAST have a definitive statement like in pic related. Don’t expect people to trust you because “MUH MULTIPLIERS.”
>>124588093If he wanted it to.
>>124588064Alien-X is Low 2-C and Green Lantern is 2-C, meaning that Green Lantern > Alien-X according to VSBW, right?
>>124588101outlier feat, doesn't count :^)
>>124588072Maybe if we use CAS? Maybe 10 billion suns will be enough.
Z broly is definitely the strongest dbz character he was gonna destroy the south galaxy *in time*
>>124588124>Zeno claps DC verse
>>124588124Do you also think there's poison in his eyes?
>>124588116well yeah. Its been done to death but hal destroys alien x
Even downplayed DBS >>>> DCU
>YAAAAAAAAS GORILLION UNIVERSE GOKU
>>124588124Zeno can't even clap demon Bulma.
>>124588129Yeah but they say Buu was going to destroy the universe in time too, multiple times, There's just no hypothetical visual for it.
>uhm, achtually, DC superman is only continent level
>>124588088You know I am being very generous in comparison with your gokusistersAccording to dbfans, the db universe is not even 20 lys hahahahahttps://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1486880...1487421
>>124588147>Literally ignoring every bit of context about the scene>Literally ignoring the "Blood of 52 universes" part that's directly above the line, right there on the page.>Literally ignoring that Mandrak is making a reference to Superman PrimeIs it a choice to be this stupid, or were you just born like this?
Imagine thinking the heat of 10 billion stars is impressive.
All this Goku vs Superman talk made me go back and watch the first one...Fuck I miss the time where Death Battle's longer than 4 minutes was the norm...
Who would be a good match for Bec Noir?
>>124588176Having the fights all last the same regardless of time or style was a huge mistake, now it feels a lot of fights end before they truly start because of them making all the same duration.
Is that a... CONVENTIONAL FIREARM?! AAAAAAHHHH CHICHI COME KISS MY OUCHIEEEEEEEE!
ENTER 10,000,000,000X SUNS!
Would this be a good matchup? Who wins?
Got any scientists here?What is more impressive, the heat of 10 billion suns or a million exploding suns?
>>124588124>>124588147>>124588175>>124588225go back to comicvine fag
>>124588129dbz galaxies are small and cute
>>124588231I mean I guess it'd be thematic, probably Reece Osterman's higher end scaling seems a bit arguable and meta nonsense that could mean literally nothing.
>>124588245Exploding Suns. I guess it depends on how hot they are though
>>124588275Even small galaxies can have more than 10 billion suns in them.
>>124588288Not db galaxies. You have to somehow fit them in 36 lys
>>124588245>the sun gives off 8e+26 joules of heat each second, x 10 billion = 8e+36 joules >a supernova gives off 10e+44 joules, times 1 million is 1e+51 joules
>>124588162Stop posting your selfies, Superfag
>>124573267>Superman is 191 cm>Goku is 175 cmWell at least kakarotto is not vegeta (who is 105 cm..
It sure is great being septillion gazillion bajillion times stronger than anyone el-AAAAAHHHH! SORBET-SAMA, WHYYYYYYY?!
>>124586891When did I say that? Besides the hype pretty much died down after both the episodes dropped and really the only people who seem to want it are the people here
>>124588374Plot induced stupidity
>>124588176Season 2 was the season with the longest Death Battles on average actually (it also was by far the slowest at releasing, 2013 and 2014 were slow years)Ranking by length, it's.LONGEST1. S1 Goku Vs Superman (10:29)2. S2 Terminator Vs Robocop (7:36)3. S2 Sam Fisher Vs Solid Snake (7:30)4. S2 Ironman Vs Lex Luthor (6:59)5. S3 Dante Vs Bayonetta (6:39)6. S2 Hercule Satan Vs Dan Hibiki (6:37)7. S2 Godzilla Vs Gamera (6:34)8. S2 Deadpool Vs Deathstroke (6:34)9. S7 Winter Soldier Vs Red Hood (6:31)10. S5 Thanos Vs Darkseid (6:25)SHORTEST1. S1 Yoshi Vs Riptorl (0:55)2. S1 Zitz Vs Leonardo (0:57)3. S1 Chun-Li Vs Mai Shiranui (0:57)4. S1 Bomberman Vs Dig Dug (1:03)5. S1 Pikachu Vs Blanka (1:11)6. S2 Fulgore vs Sektor (1:12)7. S2 Ivy Vs Orchid (1:14)8. S1 Rogue Vs Wonder Woman (1:15)9. S1 Kratos Vs Spawn (1:16)10. S1 Akuma Vs Shang Tsung (1:16)
Anyhow what do you think of my personal season thing? It's not completed but like whateves..
>>124588402I would watch most of these Especially Dark Magician vs Jace, I fucking love Yugioh
>>124588402some of your matchups suck. Actually, most of them do. Except Jiren vs Hyperion. That’s based.
>>124588402How in the everliving fuck is PB supposed to fight Makima? She can't even fight an anorexic dude with a flying beard.
>>124588414Which one's do you hate?
>>124588398Wow...the series really peaked in S2.I guess Roosterteeth fucked it up by going corporate.
>>124587439They don’t even use multipliers on the site funnily enough and when they do it doesn’t really boost you in tiers when you’re in the universal area
>>124588398S2 keeps proving to still be the best one
In the end he was just another corpse
>>124588414>>124588402Which Hyperion? Because Heroes Reborn beat the Beyonder and should scale to Doctor SpectrumWho can absorb the entire Cancerverse and launch it as an attack
>>124588418Ice king could hypothetically freeze the world if he used the crowns full power.
>>124588450Yeah but that was a Beyonder created by Mephisto.
>>124588450>Who can absorb the entire Cancerverse and launch it as an attackWhen did he do that?
>>124588459I thought Heroes Reborn were people who had their lives changed rather than a whole new verse
>>124588442He should of won due to speed.
>>124588465I think Heroes Reborn 4 or 5
>>124588398I skipped the winter soldier vs red hood one because >live actionis it actually good
>>124588435Eh, S2 had some peaks, but it also had some deep valleys. For every Fisher vs Snake and Godzilla vs Gamera, we got a Luigi vs Tails and Fulgore vs Sektor. It has simultaneously the best episodes and the worst ones as well, and generally people forget just how bad the worst ones were and only remember the high points. Go re-watch Beast vs Goliath, Gaara vs Toph, and Cap vs Bats and ask yourself if that's an acceptable tradeoff.
>>124588499It's like watching a fight scene from Deadliest Warrior, take that as you will.
>>124588398Maybe I just got used to battles being about 3-4 mins nowadays because I don't remember half of these being this long.
>>124588465He’s also sliced a head off a Celestial and sliced off Thanos’ Infinity Rings
What level would modern DB put Godzilla at
>>124588510>ask yourself if that's an acceptable tradeoff.Considering each season has their own abominations, including some that are almost entirely bad episodes with some salvageable ones especially season 3 and 4 i'd say yeah pretty much.
>>124588402Ok just checking I don't know shit about HunterxHunter or Lilo power levels, does Stitch stand a chance against Mereum? I'm assuming the connection is that they are genetic experiments or some shit but I think that matchup sounds fucking hilarious.
>>124588402I don’t really see the connection between Bobobo and Bill besides being characters that don’t fight seriously (but for Bobobo it’s explained as being because of his fighting style)
>>124588538Benbros…. Even mere copies of Hal beat Alien X
>>124588538didn’t sentry do the same thing?
>>124586114DA' wayyyy better at flashy special effects and unique abilities rather than close-range or hand-to-hand stuff. Just look at something like Ganon VS Drac and compare it to Babs VS Gwen
>>124588568Just the Celestial thing, he flew through one
>>124588510>S2 had some peaks, but it also had some deep valleys.isn't that every season
As much as we love Superman none of us actually believes he has a chance against Goku.And I'm not talking about Super or even Z Goku, I'm talking about the classic Dragon Ball version.You know, where even weaker characters destroy the moon and reaction dodge lightning and lasers.
>>124588541Planetary to star level probably and obviously universal in burning because of that one line that implied his meltdown's explosion would be comparable to the Big Bang you just have to ignore all the contradictory stuff
>>124588599>moon levelYawn, wake me up when Goku actually destroys something for once
>>124588519i liked that show
>>124588577no I’m talking about when the void absorbed the cance verse in annihilation scourge
>>124588607He helped destroy Vegeta's asshole with Piccolo
>>124588619Page? I don’t remember this
>>124588607>Concedes that Roshi would destroy Superman.Concession accepted.
>>124588545Season 3 was like 50/50. Some of my favorite Death Battles are actually from this season, But then some of my least favorite are also from this season... Season 4 had bangers but for the most part it was just there...
>>124588585The trend in recent seasons, with the increased tendrils of corporation and standardization, is that the fights are rarely "bad" as such. Short, bland, and/or inoffensive, but not ludicrously short and the quality from episode from episode is generally relatively even. The gap between "best" and "worst" episodes is much smaller than it used to be. If you compare the peak of season 2 (Fisher vs Snake) with the deepest valley (Fulgore vs Sektor or Beast vs Goliath) you'll find the disparity is a lot smaller than the relative peak of season 6 (probably Dragonzord VS Mechagodzilla or All Might vs Might Guy) and its relative valley (Widow fight or the shill episode).
>>124580481>mfw this thread is butthurt because Superman is the only character VSBW looks at logically and doesn't wank at infinite multiversalRemember when that Star universal feat was made fun of, please unironically tell me the difference between that and the first one? What's the difference between Omniwhateverthefuck Prime and the first one
>>124588615Then you'll probably like Red Hood vs Winter Soldier. The fight scene felt very similar. At times, it felt like Deadliest Warrior was back and this was an episode they were doing for a fictional characters special.
>>124588662The only episode that really stood for me from S4 is megazord vs voltron, but only because the fight itself had no right to be as good as it was.
>>124588685I don’t see him absorbing anything desu
>>124588547Stitch is unironically island level because of some bullshit the elemental experiments pulledAlso for the themes>Both are from a invasive species that can threaten all life on a "planet" if not kept under check>Both are one of the strongest member of their species>Both are the de-facto leader of their species because of the their raw power and abilities>Both are super geniuses whose intelligence and outpace anything humans can muster>Both start off as amoral monster who lack any compassion for life>Both gain a humanity through the love of a small girl and the bond they form with them
>>124588678I will give it a look then.And man deadliest warrior should at least have tried to have a spin off with fiction mythos, that vampires vs zombies episode was great.
>>124588311UHHH.... OMNI MAN/HOMELANDER/ANY OTHER "EVIL SUPERMAN" BROS......WTF IS THIS?!!!!?!
>>124588450Earth-13034, dead people so it'd be thematic
>>124585093>that reddit tier filenameAnon do you not know what Capeworld Comics sounds like? He sounds like he has never consumed anything but onions in his entire life.
>>124588770I didn’t like itIt felt like we were supposed to root for the vampires
>>124588711Megazord vs VoltronBalrog vs TJ ComboShredder vs Silver SamuraiSephiroth vs VergilThis was Season 4 for me everything else was ok to don't really care.
>>124588781Alrighty, Hickman Hyperion, sounds like a good fight
>>124588599>all bullets fired at one target>vs a wide spray>pretending they're comparablelol
>>124588727go read the issue
>>124588732I'm assuming island is above city or mountain in vswiki terms, I suck ass at visualizing shit in my head. I keep thinking of the Spongebob island with the palm tree.
>>124588852An island is like a state
>>124587673Rather, it debunks the idea that the Beyonders are truly beyond the Marvel universe.
>>124588809I forgot those episodes were from season 4they are actually good
>>124588599Goku also grabs genitals
>>124588866>the beings that are named ‘beyonders’ because they’re beyond the universe aren’t actually beyond the universe Cope
>>124587799? Goku never beat Jiren.
>>124588553>Yellow beings of chaosI honestly just want the fight since I think the banter would be perfect, bill is the only person who's smart enough to realize how fucking terrifying Bobobo truly is. Also Dipper and Mabel being his Beauty stand in would be perfect.
>>124588885? Cope with what?
>>124588883>Goku also grabs genitalsAnd Clark's gonna let him grab his junk or the Power Pole is going up his ass.
>>124588852There was a really good vidoes that help visualize it but it got privated, fuck.
RIDING THE WINGS OF IRONVICTORY FORGED IN FIRE
>>124578251>>124573923>there have been like 3 official posters so far, according to the wikiWhen were this available? https://deathbattle.fandom.com/wiki/DEATH_BATTLE!#Gallery
Powerlevel fags are too much of a pussy to admit kirby by now is at least universal level or more at this point and always says he's solar system
>>124589260hes wall level max
>>124589260Did he get something new?
>The tier list explains video got privated>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKSYluPm9m8Fuck
>>124589292In star allies there's a whole alternate dimension thing that kirby destroys after killing an alternate dimension void termina
>>124588961Clark is taller than goku. He was also well feed and built like a brick. Sissy goku will know heaven during their first time...
>>124589292Nope besides a vague "destroy everything" statement that has been wanted to multiversal
>>124589260He's a Gary Stu made for toddlers. You don't need to prove shit. The plot will always make him win, no matter what.
>>124589260Kirby defeated majin buu and majin buu is stronger than east kaioshin. Shin is stronger than granolah (per the dragon wish) and granolah HUMILIATED goku..
>>124589260In what i've seen he's just not brought up often enough to matter, more so because his niche of "absorb powers" and "eats a lot" is filled with so many below planet level that actually discussing his limits is a moot point.
>>124589260not interesting enough, any matchups he has that aren't a complete meme are a stomp in his favor (except maybe against megaman.exe)
>>124589348Goku has bodied faggots bigger than Clark.
>>124589377It's especially weird since there's universal characters like meta knight and galacta knight and nightmare or void termina, or yin yarn or drawcia.
>>124588732oh hey tots
>>124589476oh hey Tipper.
>>124589412How about kirby vs the whole fairy tail guild since they both use the power of friendship to murder their enemies or redeem them
>>124589504some vsbattle retards.
>>124589420chichi (163 cm) raped goku. Clark will do just fine
>>124589542god i wanna see Erza scream out as she gets swallowed up and unceremoniously gulped by kirby that'd be hot esp. if she let out a muffled scream that suddenly cut off yeah sounds good bro let's do it
>>124589583Anon what is wrong with you other than your fetishes
>>124589255First Fallen is a shirt. Still available on RT's store.Pic related is just promotional artwork. Never has been available as merch, if I'm not mistaken.Renamon vs. Bayonetta sold out recently, according to posts in previous threads.The 100th episode poster was sold also in limited quantities some years ago. And there's another poster with Wiz and Boom that I didn't even know it existed. I think the wiki may be wrong.Just two posters have been available, from what I can tell. Both sold in limited quantities.https://twitter.com/DEATHBATTLE/status/1052212569841094656
>>124589600look i just think erza is hot and it's not like she'd get horribly digested if she got eaten by kirby, just trapped in that little inner dimension. it's not like kirby would spit out her skull (with hair still attached to it don't ask how), and it'd like, bounce once or twice, roll, and then end up on its side with the jaw hanging open as if in mock surprisebecause that'd be AWFUL
>>124589628>t. BenGo push your Ryona fetish elsewhere Mr. Singer.
Please make /vs/ already, and prune any discussions about Superman in it because it always just becomes retarded bickering that proves nothing.
>>124589673a /vs/ board would literally just be comicvine
>>124589377Kirby should honestly fight Bartz from Final Fantasy V, yeah he does get stomped to kingdom come thanks to infinite multiversal shit in V but it’d still be interesting
>>124589680People debate on comicvine, on 4chan people just shitpost downplay/wank to trigger reactions.
>>124589433I would love to see a kirby villain fight, but it's easy to see why they would gloss over them
>>124574288Carebears are unironically star level
I'm still mad about a db for being an obvious stomp with no win condition for the loser.
>>124589724>People debate on comicvine
>>124589724Anon that is vsdebating. One person states how they think a character is strong. Then they provide evidence for how strong they are. They lose if they get disproven for wank.
Best/worst episodes? >best>Working Stiff>worst>Burrito BucketPerfectly balanced.>S02E01-S02E12 (Amazon WEB-DL mostly, some CN WEB-DL)https://disk.yandex.com/d/dxl8ewgn6bC2sg>S01E37-S01E52 (Amazon WEB-DL)https://disk.yandex.com/d/cyY6dWUlDMfCnw>S01E19-S01E36 (Amazon WEB-DL)https://disk.yandex.com/d/KVU5scJWkbLTpg>S01E01-S01E18 (Amazon WEB-DL)https://disk.yandex.com/d/XgoKcQT_nwM0iw
>>124589743I think galacta knight vs terra's possessed armor could be a fun fight
>>124589827Except no one concedes on 4chan because we're all anonomous, lose an argument and pretend it didn't happen.On comicvine everyone knows you're retarded, so you can't pull the same shit.
>>124578251>Renamon/BayonettaWas that really a matchup? What do they have in common?
>>12458757218 was the one who said that. Even the High Priest needs a crystal ball to see and sense things far away. Even Xen'oh isn't omniscient.18 is more potent than both of them?
>>12459041718 defeated captain marvel, and captain marvel lasted more than five seconds against shazam. So yes 18 is stronger than those 2
>>124587995Beerus can be hurt by spicy food.
>>124590500Superman is not even planet level
>>124590382Think it was just because of their voice actress. Why not other VAs and their respective characters in Death Battle? Who knows. The Ben 10 vs. GL shirt also just came out of nowhere, years after the fight.
>>124590500Must have been a pretty fragile multiverse considering Supes can't even destroy a moon without getting bodied in the process.
>>124589856I was wondering where the fuck this post went.Sorry everybody.
>>124589896wanted to make a thread, accidentally made a reply
>>124591084>he doesn’t know how to delete replies
>>124587884>at the lowest, his conciousness is human levelpathetic resistance
>>124588311Should fight Plutonian
>>124580346nigga, Iron Man has a hologram armor created out of an entire virtual reality that effortlessly turned his smarter brother's armor, which was based off of Tony's Godbuster suit, into scrap metal. No way Bats is winning this one.
>>124592310waste of a slot and marvel herald scaling
>>124592329Anon, the armor he fought wasn't the original Godbuster, it was Model 67, which showed no other abilities than the standard Iron Man suit. And neither Tony's Hologram Suit (Model 68) or Model 67 have any feats to physically withstand Hellbat or to protect Tony's human brain from Final Batsuit's reality warping.
>>124592329>which was based off of Tony's Godbuster suitproof?
>>124592329Yeah, see, Darkseid shits on that so…Plus even Lois Lane used it to battle the Eradicator who was like 1000 Kryptonians powerful
>>124592393That's why I said "based off of" that's what it means.
>>124592403The Godbuster literally beat out a superintelligent AI in its own world that it could control and Tony literally remade the same armor in the real world, if geniuses like Riri and Tony can make statements on how absurdly powerful the Godbuster is, I'm pretty sure the armor is as powerful as they claim it is.
>>124592393When did they confirm that the Final Batsuit would be used?
>>124592545>a superintelligent AI in its own worldSo an actual universe, or just a virtual reality? Because virtual realities aren't universes, they can fit into a usb.
>>124588402>>124588418Pic related is Makima's only real thematic match-up so far.
>>124582914I don't think DB has a problem with that, given they scaled Cloud to however many times FTL.
>>124592403Didn’t they put Darkseid at universal though?
>>124592677Didn't the Controller absorb the energy off of the eScape and become just as powerful? If Ironheart Arno, and Tony were able to back up those statements that it was jsut as powerful as they claimed it was, I'm pretty sure it really is just that strong, personal statements notwithstanding considering that they're literally geniuses.
>>124595046Is this Escape yet another virtual thing?
>>124585894Dragon Ball has never been consistent with their powers.
>>124592329>nigga, Iron Man has a hologram armor created out of an entire virtual reality that effortlessly turned his smarter brother's armor, which was based off of Tony's Godbuster suit, into scrap metal. No way Bats is winning this one.So Holodeck level?
>>124595069It is, but since three geniuses are practically backing each other up and jerking off the Godbuster to be this extremely powerful armor, I'd wager that the eScape was literally the "virtual universe" as Tony advertised the eScape it would be to the consumer market.Comics are fuckin wack lol
>>124595180Sort of, but it's made of solid light, so basically a Green Lantern's constructs.
>>124595125neither has any capeshit character
>>124595281Yeah, no, virtual universes aren’t real universes
>>124595556How do you explain those statements backed u by three eggheads on how powerful the armor is then.Also, Megaman EXE exists.
>>124595652Statements are kinda meaningless After all, talk is cheap
>>124595556I wonder how Digimon would be affected by that sort of ruling.
>>124596281The Digimon universe may be called Digital, but its properties are analogous to a real world as seen by how easily the monsters can invade and behave the same way.
So we all agree Yugi murders Ash thanks to shit he’d scale to thanks to GX?
>>124596426Frankly I though Egyptian Gods alone clinched it
>>124595652Megaman EXE isn’t Iron Man. Tony’s “virtual universe” fit within an Earth computer.
>>124596426I want Yugi vs Matrim Cauthon to see how they handle masters of luck hax fighting.
>>124595711Not when the statements keep shoehorning the same point over and over again.
>>124596504Actually, still, because it’s still talk no matter how much it’s repeated
>>124596453And that universe's energy was absorbed by the Controller and literally wrecked the Champions, I don't know how subtle the inference that it was just as powerful as it was can get through
>>124596426I don't think he needs much scaling honestly. Mind Crush does most of the work, and he's had that since season 0. Not to mention the fact that the hologram projectors can apparently cause real damage if their "limiters" are "disabled" like in that one episode where Kaiba is testing his new deck against a robot. I don't know how it works but yugis gonna oh.
>>124596566Wow, it beat Kamala AND MilesSo universal
>>124596526That's like saying that Ghost Rider's feats of being comparable to Galactus is false becasue Dr. Strange kept pushing that point over and over again but it was included in the final decisionmaking process of Ghost Rider vs Lobo so I don't know how else three geniuses can emphasize the point.
It's weird how SMT has 2 pretty good matchups
>>124596599You know he also fought Viv and Sam Alexander who literally have the same abilities as their counterparts, right
>>124596690>Vision and NovaDude, those guys aren’t realy that powerfulUnless you use Worldmind Nova but I don’t think Sam comes close to regular Rich
Is there any statement in the comic that this digital world has comperable in size to the universe? I don't want to read more Slott comic to find out
>>124596690You know Hellbat fought Darkseid, right? Nice “universal” Ironman armor, lmao
>>124596831Wasn't Bruce literally dying in that armor. At least when Tony wears his suits, it won't kill him in the process lol
>>124596728Nova wasn't on Worldmind when he peirced thru a Neutron star and withstood the energy of Galactus' ship that contained all the worlds he destroyed, And Vision withstood the blows of a ressurected Hulk.
>>124597109Yeah, reminds me of when they mentioned Iron Fist fighting Hulk out of pity Lel, take a hint Ironbro, Champions are weak,
>>124596600Oh, right, I guess that did happen.
>>124597039That’s why he has Final Batsuit, which is even stronger. Hellbat’s just there to give Tony the illusion of a chance.:)
>>124597152This is Death Battle bro.You think they're gonna use your logic?
>>124597167Wasn’t that only used once and wasn’t even built by him (technically)
>>124597187Considering how Iron Fist fought Hulk and still lost to Po, Uh yeah
>>124597223That wouldn't be consistent with their logic about "using characters at their best" then.
>>124597249One fight is not someone’s best, I don’t know where you get the shit idea Immortal Hulk slapping Vision around means Vision is suddenly as strong as him
>>124597287If one fight isn't someone's best, then why the fuck do they keep pushing that as the show's process in who determines the winner then.
>>124573267Are there any other Batman fights that can become a reality at this point?
>>124597221The one he used in the fight was rebuilt from scratch by him (main universe him) after Jarro sabotaged and destroyed it.
>>124592329It won't matter if they give Bruce his chaos emerald that can absorb the omega effect and grant wishes.
>>124597595Wait. He still has that fucking thing?Goddamn Snyder.
>>124597405If getting crushed by the Hulk is Vision’s best, I don’t see why it matters
>>124592329>not even multiversalKeep trying Tony, keep trying.
>>124586705Unironically yes, Green Lanterns used to fight dudes that destroyed infinite timelines and could crush realities for breakfast, Flashes literally break reality and can achieve infinite mass that can shatter entire Universes if they desire and thats not even a fraction of their full power. Infinite in DC is meaningless since everyone is already capable of shattering infinitely big Universes and move at Infinite speeds.DC is busted AF.
>>124587102That was literally when he was consciously holding back and was specifically mentioned to be way weaker than he became or thought he could be. Might as well use fuckin Teen Goku to show he’s barely Moon level all the time.
>>124588599Can’t outrun lasers though
>>124597903Are they going to give him the Bat chair?I think this might be a really frustrating match to cover because there's so much they can give them both that people don't really think about.
>>124586705>Flash and Green LanternsWhy did you pick the two that put Archie Sonic and Alien X in the trashcan?
>>124598572I’m just sticking with Hellbat for my guess
>>124575940The stories were alternative dimensions, Roger was immune to the fire that was consuming them.
>strongest DC character isn’t even in the DC continuity
Doesn’t Batman have a suit he got recently stronger than Hellbat? I think Iron Man’s best beats Hellbat I hate Iron Man too. He’s like Batman but less interesting and complex.
>>124599338Final Batsuit but it’s pretty much a one-off thing
>>124574799I’m a huge DBZfag and Superman is pretty clearly multiversalI do think Goku will soon be really close to beating him though due to Angel power shit
>>124599414Toyotaro's goku is weak, slow and stupid though
>>124599414he used a fucking tree to block an attack some chapters ago.
>>124599556>>124599474That’s Manga Goku
>>124599639Indeed anon, canon goku. btw goku is naruto 4 tails tier
>>124599773Toyotaro ia shit at panelling
>>124599773>have to wait another fucking month to see this guy fightmy god I hate monthly manga so much.
>>124599830If latinos weren't prone to piracy, I am pretty sure that they would've gone weekly rather than monthly
>>124598068holy shit I'm going insane.