Where Lourdes Chantel (sort of) makes a return.
Bump if you're reading.Question of the week: With the recent discussion of that Wanda is being retconned into being a mutant all along (as well as the last Excalibur issue retconned old characters into being mutants all along), what character do you think would actually benefit from a retcon like this?
>>124571070Is Mimic currently considered a mutant or not? Haven't seen him on Krakoa.
>>124571089I don't think that he's a mutant.
>>124571070Cloak and Dagger
>>124571070>what character do you think would actually benefit from a retcon like this?None. Being a mutie is a death sentence. As soon as Gwenpool became a mutant she was reduced to be fodder to fill in group shots.
>>124571234they are going to ruin thanksgiving, aren't they?
Yeah turns out she never died. How did she survive? Well that's also explained in this issue.
Oh yeah did I mention that they got Klaus Janson doing the art for this flashback?
>>124571251> all the hellfire babies had abusive childhoodsjesus just kill them off already so we don't have to pretend to feel bad for them.
Oh hi Fisk
>>124571309What's up with that left foot?
Looks like the Marauders are aware of Nimrod.
>NEXT>MARAUD ABROADNow for New Mutants.
So still no resolution on who murdered Christian.You’d think Emma would have telepathically checked in by now.
No-Girl is still pissed about the situation, to the point that she's also controlling Gabby's body.
>>124571124He is and he’s on KrakoaHe got mentioned alongside Synch in HoX
>>124571564He did? I must have missed it then, my bad.
>>124571452Ooh, Matt is going to be mad.
Rahne has a point though
>>124571471Fuck your conquest, fuckos.
>>124571309>>124571437If having two left feet makes you a bad dancer, does having two right feet make you extra good at dancing?
>>124571070Again why are people this mad about the mutants colonizing mars like people in thr Marvel U dont have the tech. Normal people sure dont, but every succesful company and gov has the tech. Hell, the F4 were the first humans on the Moon along a crazy commies and several monkeys several years beforw the canon landind in-universe
Damn these guys really don't want her to leave
>>124571099Why isnt she bonning Cyclops again? Did their relationahip sour before his death?
>>124571551What??? I don't get what is prompting this plan.
>>124571141When was Shaw fixed?
Oh hi Daken
>>124571234Why cant telepaths stop messing arounzd?
>>124571729Nice to see common sense take over for a change.
Op likes cocks
>>124571740clones cant be ressurected
rude>>124571789No I like Hens.
>>124571309Emma looks 2D in the first pic, like a cutout
>>124571783warpath still hasnt realized they took thunderbird body and gave it to sinister. he has some kind of mental block, he keeps talking about his brother but never realizes he isnt getting rezzed
>>124571792Then why would there be a clone body of her in storage?
Man they really want Gabby back.
>>124571862there isnt.they are talking about using a egg to make a new body for her with the reality shifting powers of cosmer.All clones are forbidden from ressurection.
>>124571433>from Madrid>ChantelI dont think so
>>124571452Fisk is retarded if he doesnt need teleporters
>>124571269Wait now we have to use time travel for old mutants pre cerebros? Then how did Sway and Petra come back?
>>124571881I thought they were trying to steal a copy of her mind to put into the corpse No girl is keeping operational
>NEXT>WOLF AND SHEEPNext week: Cable #12, S.W.O.R.D. #7 & Wolverine #14.And that's it! If you liked these, support your LCS or whatever.
>>124571905>lower case G in God
>>124571932Take what you can get,, readers are lucky they haven't tried replacing God with "Mutation" or something
>>124571917they are keeping backups of everyone minds, but theyve forbidden clone ressurection. This is because charles is trying to prevent Pryor from being ressurected.
>>124571551Why DID Karma Crucible?
>>124571624Thats a man
>>124571881Ah. This damn cloning thing is such an elaborate clusterfuck.
>>124572005Inorder to seperate the psychic ghost of her brother from her, they needed to do a full reset of her
>>124571728Now that Jean is in the game again, Cyclops is too busy boning her boyfriend Logan
>>124571070>Wanda is being retconned into being a mutant all alongI think people are taking this for granted, not keeping in mind that Editorial might not actually want to do this and throw everyone out of a loop.
>>124571851I hope a barrier isnt the only defensive system for their clone pods
>>124572166Or for the 5 mutants they need to operate the whole process.
>>124571891>>124571433Yeah, "Lourdes Chantel" really does not sound like a Spanish name. It should be Lurdes if anything.
>>124572227At this point Krakoa is standing by pure luck and writter's word
>>124571452>>124571471Couldn't Emma just use telepathy to force Fisk to do whatever she says? Or make him think she already did what he asked?
>>124571551why HASN'T No-Girl gone through the Crucible to get her body back
>>124572006ugly women aren't men
>>124572274I think because she still has her powers, which is what this apartheid really cares about.
>>124572098Or that they might leave her dead to give Magneto man-pain like they do in so many AU stories.
>>124571797That was pretty brutal, but how did no-girl know to how Gabby was feeling?
>>124571471Emma is retarded. She could have used plain old identity theft via abusing her psychic powers.
>>124572330It's probably not going to be since there's that miniseries coming out soon (Darkhold) that, despite having been written last year, they're choosing to have it happen after The Trial so she might be resurrected, but it probably won't be to the liking of the X-Men fans since her being a mutant adds nothing to her character, as you said it's more of a Magneto thing.
>>124572274To be fair, nobody could actually kill her in a fight unless they're immune to telepathy.
>>124572274Why the fuck would they even make No-Girl go through the Crucible? Being a brain in a jar isn't part of her being a mutant, she's a telepath with luminescent blood; they're just being dicks for not giving her a body.
>>124572274Optimism says it's because she's still a child, and none of them feel like big enough bastards to do itMore likely it's >>124572323 , considering Cosmar's talk with Dani
>>124571728He might be. They haven't shown anything, but Sinister's Secrets implied Scott's sleeping with one or more people on the side, as well. >>124571212Keep in mind, Gwen wouldn't even have the group shots if she weren't a mutant. She'd have nothing. But yeah, the X-line isn't going to use her. I'm sure all the writers are worried about the backlash they'll get if they mess her up.
>>124571234Are they implying that Wilhelmina's heinous acts weren't her fault, and that she was a victim? Or are the Cuckoos just manipulating her into thinking that, and they're pinning the blame on the dad so they can get away with what they did?
>>124571932probably just a mistake
>>124572274Status quo. Anyone can go through the Crucible if they want, they just need someone willing to fight and kill them. Yeah, there are mutants who would be against needless killing, and you have idiots like Dani touting mutant pride. But Martha's free to go whenever she wants. Williams mentioned on Twitter that Hellion could do it to get his hands back, but just didn't want to jump in front of a queue that's already backlogged with mutants in need of resurrection.
>>124572397>>124572323>>124572400Yeah, like No-Girl pointed out this issue, only the cool guys get body autonomy on Krakoa. Third stringers like her and Cosmar have to live with whatever mutilation or deformity they end up with.>>124572391Come to think of it, who could defeat and kill Cosmar too? Reality warpers are OP
Today's X-Men Legends was kino. PAD should write X-Factor again
>>124571471>I despise you Sebastiánlol is the irony here on purpose? It's got to be, right? Emma (and the girls and you could argue every mutie telepath) is a slaver at least a hundred times over as well as a murderer, a thief, a blackmailer and a bunch of other shit but heartbroken Sebastián laid hands on a woman so he's to be despised? Women.
>>124572610he should at least save Madrox from the shit Tini is doing to him
>>124572233Lourdes is also accepted in Spain. I dont know what Chantel is supposed to be.
>>124572656Chantel is a French name. France and Spain are neighboring countries so it could work.
>>124572648Let's write a letter to Marvel demanding X-Factor.Hopefully next month it will be announced by PAD with the "Because you've demanded it" tagline
>>124572380Darkhold takes place before all of this.
>>124572689Don't give me hope, anon. So, who'll start the "Let's write a letter to the X-Office one word at a time" thread?
Not sure where this Wilhelmina plot line is going.
>>124572935wamen strong or something
>>124572935>cuckoos "fix" a member of the brat pack and gain an allie in MadripoorThat simple anon. Oh, then she will inevitably betray the muties too.
>>124571029Why does Shaw want a time machine to bring back Loudres when other Mutants who died before that time period were brought back no issue?Also when did he get healed?
>>124571394Well rounded .kek
>>124572456>they're pinning the blame on the dadMost likely. If you were abused as a kid by your dad nobody you do is your fault
>>124571746I was wondering the same.
>>124572612Remember, this is an island where you can share wine with genociders like Apocalypse or Magneto but the Fenris Twins are hated because Nazi.
>>124571070thanks X anon
>>124573536I think that's more Doylsian than Watsonian. No one IRL has been killed by a Mutant Supremacist but Nazis still hold a lot of bad blood here.So readers are more accepting of Poccy or Mags on a good guy team than actual Nazis.
>>124573305as he states >>124571141he was only supposed to stay crippled until the gala. as soon as it ended, he got himself fixed
>>124571124Is this supposed to be that one girl from Aaron's WatXM's Hellfire brats?
>>124573654You'd think they would be better disposed to the Nazis after they let Hydra take over in exchange for the west coast
>>124573854Also, the "working" New Tian was rife with hate crimes against humies by mutants
>>124571029I don't like this guy drawing women they look soulless with that fridge body and lego face
>>124573654Sinister is an actual Nazi though.
>>124574015True. But that backs up the "Its about the readers, not in-universe stuff" Point. SInister was with the Nazis in a single obscure issue, the Fenris Twins are full on Nazi based characters like Red Skull.
In case anyone cares, I made an account on League of Comic Geeks where you can quickly look up the upcoming (and previous) X-books, both HiX-Men era and other books like X-Men Legends, Demon Days etc.>https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/profile/hixmen/pull-list
>>124573854Funny that Beast was ALSO a dick in that.Also why was it even named New Tian. In 616 Tian was just someplace a bunch of Chinese Psychis lived.
>>124571728Disney don't allow straight relationships
>>124574068Damn this is useful, thanks man
>>124574150Kamala being a mutant doesn't do anything for her character.
>>124574169Because Emma used Zorn as her puppet to secretly Rule , and he’s ethnically Chinese
Resurect Cassandra Web.
>>124571070All the ones who were originally Mutants , duh ! Franklin , Doreen , Tyrone , Tandy , Pietro , Wanda . And also every single Marvel metahuman who’s powers are obviously neither magical nor technological AND who still doesnt have yet any clear origin story to explain their powers , like Dumb Slob’s Fantasticks LOL
>>124572098Really no reason not to considering that the retcon was obviously done because Marvel was on their ‘undermine X-Men, kick where they started retconning characters into not being mutants like Toro, Squirrel Girl, Wanda and Pietro not wanting to share them with Fox. But now that they own the X-Men again and they’re the new big thing, no time like now to fix that
>>124572551They don't. People can do the Crucible any time. Dani declined Cosmar, but she's not the arbiter of the process, or any kind of authority on the Crucible. She declined because she had personal objections, but Cosmar can always try and get anyone else to kill her.Martha doesn't get her body back because she's more recognizable to readers as a brain in a jar. Julian can't go through the Crucible because writing don't want to be accused of erasing disability. Karma's missing leg was ignored and side-stepped completely. Cyclops still has his visor because status quo. I can ignore issues like this because it's something you have to suspend your disbelief for. But to try and write it into the story only makes the plot holes bigger and more noticeable.>>124574068Eu te amo, anon. I love you.
>>124571070>fifth and third planet from the sunman, fax news sucks
>>124574608>But now that they own the X-Men again and they’re the new big thing, no time like now to fix thatSo you say, and yet they didn't make Wanda a mutant in her show despite having plenty of time to do so when they showed her origin.
>>124574881probably because they hadn't firmly developed how mutants would be integrated into the MCU during the development of Wandavision
>>124571099I would think Emma would be against tan lines and go nude.
>>124574625As for Cyclops, I think it's his mental trauma that doesn't let him control his powers. When he emerged from the cocoon he had his eyes open, and X only put the visor on him after downloading his mind.
>>124571915Either retcon or writers just forgot.
>>124572098>I think people are taking this for granted, not keeping in mind that Editorial might not actually want to do this and throw everyone out of a loop. Pietro is a mutant on the x-books again.Pietro inherited the x gene and Wanda didn’tLorna is not Magnetos kid.Says reddit.
>>124575026>Pietro is a mutant on the x-books again.Since when?>Says reddit.Right, it's not in the comics. Pietro hasn't even shown up in many, many months anywhere, ever since Empyre.
>>124572823I got it. >Help.
>>124574953If it's mental, any telepath could fix it for him.
>>124571867She offered to work the bar while Anole flirted with Piotr? How nice of her.
>>124571415in Sage's case it Xavier who sold her into sex slavery.
>>124571357WTF is this face
>>124574881Because they haven't established Mutants in the MCU yet. And you can't establish mutants without Xavier, Magneto and Wolverine. And there's no way in hell they're going to waste the big three on a tv show, not even as an easter egg.
>>124574625Still a shame with No-Girl. Her self-image looks cute
>>124575141In my opinion that ship already sailed, but we'll see. I really don't think they'll make her a mutant that late in the game, specially not if they never established a link with Magneto, they'd need to retcon that in the MCU and that's gonna confuse everyone.
>>124571905>Coming soon on Krakoa + and streaming on Telepath vision: “We need to talk about Rahne.”
>>124572612>lol is the irony here on purpose? It's got to be, right?I doubt it. Mind rape is fictional crime so a reader and by extent the writer don't always treat it as bad as they really should. Beating women or harming them is more real in peoples mind so it gets treated as worse. I'm willing to bet most people even whoever is writing this thinks Emma isn't as bad a Sebastián, a bitch maybe but not as bad a beating women.
>>124571433so Emma just sold her to Fisk cock...
>>124572612Sebastian is many times worse than Emma and, until Krakoa, has never done a single good thing. Every bad thing you could say about Emma, you could also say about Sebastian, except she eventually at least tried to do some good. If he wasn't in a position to profit he wouldn't even be on Krakoa, he'd probably be financing Sentinels again.
>Franklin Richards is actually a mutant but Xavier & Reed came an understanding, see the secret whisper convo at the Gala.>Scarlet Witch is resurrected by Magneto and confirmed a mutant and his daughter.>Quicksilver also a mutant and Magneto's son.>Lorna confirmed not to be Magneto's daughter.>Namor is given a krakoan flower, when planted it gives him a gate to the oceans of Mars.>Namora invades the oceans of Mars to become its Queen.
>>124573654>No one IRL has been killed by a Mutant SupremacistMagneto sunk a russian submarine with +200 hands on boardXorn killed hundreds in NYApocalypse has probably killed thousands across historyAl in name of mutant supremacy
>>124574068I'm trying to catch up on the current state of X-men, is there a reading list on what I should look into if the last thing I read was Emma telling the world Scott was dead from mist and not Black Bolt, and he's been dead the whole time?The jump from Emma being wanted by everyone to her leading a mutant island is very weird.
When this is all done what are they going to do with the shadow king? Kill him with no resurrection? Put him on hellions? Put in pris- I mean the pit? He didn't break any laws so what to do with him?
>>124571835Anole is not that much younger than Elixir!I'm not even sure he's younger than him.
>>124575850I believe they meant actual real life. Because I live in NY and I've never seen Xorn.
>>124572456I mean, if she was a clinical psychopath before and a psychic basically just reached into her head and fixed the imbalances that make her act that way, is anything she's done really her fault? If we could cure a person's psychopathy completely like that they'd then be operating an entirely different brain state than the one they were in before. There wouldn't really be any point in holding them accountable for past actions.
>>124575822I would love to see Namor interactt wth the Arraki's
>>124576011Why did Hickman steal so much from Dune?
>>124571070>what character do you think would actually benefit from a retcon like this?Literally no Marvel character benefits as a person from being retconned into a mutant, and suddenly getting hated and persecuted. None of them benefit as a character unless it would be in character for them to drink the Krakoa kool-aid.Maybe you can pull this off with some old Z-list characters from 1980s Captain Britain books, but if a character has their own life, lore and narrative outside of the X-books (and that certainly includes Wanda), it's only going to do them dirty.
>>124575912>There wouldn't really be any point in holding them accountable for past actions.While I get what you mean I think that would be a hard sale to a victims family
Why does only X-books have a thread dedicated to themWhy doesn't other books have that
>>124575909You didnt? It was around 2003 or so. Was news around the country
>>124572341Theoretically all telepath should know how you feel, at that current moment, once they've been in your mind once. Heck they could always know how you feel, since how would you know they were in your mind.
>>124576329Probably, but I don't care about that. We have laws precisely to deal with these things in a way that is beneficial, rather than letting mob justice run its often destructive and disproportionate course. Families of victims often want way more even than what conventional punishment entails, because they're too invested to see the situation clearly. What they think shouldn't really be taken into account.
>>124576396Because the X line is the only subline of the big two that has multiple releases each week connected to an overall narrative.
>>124575822Why would Lorna not be Magneto's daughter and what sort of 'understanding' did Xavier and Reed cone to?
>>124574520Ben Reilly did. She just let herself die all over again
>>124576980>Why would Lorna not be Magneto's daughter and what sort of 'understanding' did Xavier and Reed cone to?Lorna is a mentally ill person .Polaris Suffers from Bipolar DisorderAnd Fox hate her.
>>124576980Lorna is a genetic creations of the High Evolutionary,she is not Magneto's daughter .Says Reddit.
>>124571070With hair like that, Feilong deserved to suck and die in space. Fuckin' muties.
>>124571728She is, she just has to please Jean first. They call it leftovers.
>>124576980Because for 50 years of her history she wasnt magneto's daughter. And a hack retconed her into being his daughter.Having the same powers shouldnt make you related, or all telepaths should be related.
>>124576980Polaris also has magnetic powers. While not necessarily an indication of a biological relationship, In the Age of Apocalypse reality, Dark Beast did genetic scans, proving Polaris was not Magneto’s daughter. [Factor-X #2]The most damning evidence against Magneto fathering Polaris actually relates to the DNA test done in the divergent reality the Age of Apocalypse. This information came from Dark Beast
>>124571746Based on this page the implication is the very moment the gala was officially over he was getting himself patched up. Unless he lied, cheated, got himself fixed up immediately, has been faking his injuries all along and was the one who strangled Wanda. There you go.
>>124571833Thunderbird died before Xavier started doing the mental backups of mutantsThat's why Sebastian was talking about sending Cerebro back in time to grab Lourdes' backup before Emma revealed that she'd faked her death
>>124577654>or all telepaths should be related.They did that with the Cuckoos lol
>>124571915Presumably something to do with how they died on Krakoa and Vulcan absorbed them/their powers until he awoke post M-DayAlso they were Moira's students AND Xavier put them through psychic hyperbolic time chamber training so he may have gotten a back up then
>>124576980>what sort of 'understanding' did Xavier and Reed cone to?Sue wanted to get Franklin off the island before he started having pre-marital sex with loose women. They faked his depowering to kick him out of Krakoa.
>>124571251Bump for misandrist TIRF white genocide hate mongering.
>>124572456The former, because Duggan's Marauders runs on grrrrl power. He also made her the richest of the Hellfire Brats.
>>124571915If I remember right, the editors said that Petra and Sway came back because they were revived during Necrosha. It doesn't explain why Thunderbird is still dead, especially since time travel AND Necrosha shenanigans give them more than enough leeway to bring him back.
>>124571915I'm still curious why they can't go back and snag a pre-Otherworld corruption copy of Rockslide or others. They clearly remember him as he was, thus to time he's fine before his Otherworld death.For that matter why don't they steal a copy from their enemy's playbook? Create a pocket universe where time moves faster and send the Five into it with a Cerebro and other necessary cloning materials. In days, if not hours, they could return with the entire population of Genosha revived. If they're old by that point just get them some younger bodies to stick them into. Worked for Synch.
>>124571551How do you control a dead brain?
Harry Leland as Shinobi Shaw's biological father confirmed.And Sebastian Shaw is Lorna's biological father .
>>124571911He could use one, sure, but they're unreliable. Oh not their powers, that's the problem. Hard to keep hold of someone who can just pop out to a safe distance. It's doable, of course. If she had family he knew of he could hold them ransom, but since she doesn't (that he knows of) the best he could do is figure out her safehouses and when she inevitably finds a job of his distasteful and tries to run she arrives at her house just in time to see a bunch of bombs ticking down to zero.If you're wondering why he doesn't have a similar problem with telepaths who could just fuck with him, you clearly have no idea how hard it is for a teep to get through all that fat to reach his brain.
>>124572274If you have a robot leg you get resurrected with a robot leg. If No-Girl tried to off herself to get resurrected she'd wake up discovering...she's still a brain in a jar. Fuck your mutie continuity, Charles!
>>124572274>>124578775If you think about it, it shouldn't even require the Crucible. Elixir should be able to just regrow her body.
Pietro gets resurrected as a mutant by the 5, and they use November 1985 as the restoration point meaning that he has no memories of anything from that point forward.
>>124577730that doesn't even make sense considering Petra and Sway were brought back
>>124577654You do have a valid point
>>124574520No precogs anon.
>>124571728>Why isnt she bonning Cyclops again? Did their relationahip sour before his death?Years before. Scott and Emma haven't been a couple since she cheated on him with Namor during AvX. They've been apart longer than they were ever together.
>>124577718They had a DNA test done in 616 that proved they were related.
>>124579969Is Cyclops one of the most cucked characters in Marvel?They finally let Wolverine bang his wife too. Xavier cucked him out of having a mutant island as well.He should have just stayed dead.
>>124575912I don’t think you can really do that, or well it’s lazy writing. Behaviors can’t really change without being a different person that quickly, it’s such a tonal shift. I mean a mental struggle where maybe a small part of her is saying no or some shit would be better. Like they caused her conscience to influence her more by growing it or something.You’d think that someone who’s rich and was under telepathic attack earlier by Emma would have a defense. It just seems like the writer wants to take away the characters ambitions and a victim. Like they do this shit with Emma with her origins.
>>124576516>We have laws precisely to deal with these things in a way that is beneficialBeneficial for who?Because locking, say, a rapist in a prison for 10 years, killing his prospects at a normal life and a normal job, and pushing him to reiterate the second he's free because he's got nothing left to lose is not really beneficial to anyoneI'd say modern justice is deply flawed because it's all about rehabiliton and fails miserably at thatBetter to hang them up and be done with it
>>124580227>They had a DNA test done in 616 that proved they were related.This Never Happened Lorna submits her own DNA and says it’s Magneto’s.says reddit
>>124577537>Lorna is a genetic creations of the High Evolutionary,she is not Magneto's daughterWhat? That is quite literally Wanda's origin...>Says Reddit.You again?
>>124580227it is someone else’s DNA Sebastian Shaws DNA.
>>124580498>says redditWho cares what reddit says? That's just fan-theories by people who desperately want the Maximoff twins to be related to Magneto and Lorna to not be, just because old retcon good, new retcon bad.
>>1245802272 dna on the swab would that mess the dna results up.
>>124580560>>says reddit>Who cares what reddit says? That's just fan-theories by people who desperately want the Maximoff twins to be related to Magneto and Lorna to not be, just because old retcon good, new retcon bad.Nope.
>>124571540>>124571551Oh, she's still alive. That sucks.
>>124580227Was her original test a legal, witnessed one?
>>124571551So now no-girl can puppet corpses, that's a hell of a power boost.
>>124580674>Was her original test a legal, witnessed one?Was the one done by Dark Beast in an AU a legal, witnessed one?
>>124580334>I don’t think you can really do thatWell, yeah. In real life we have no safe way of doing that. That said, people becoming literally entirely different after tumour is removed, or even in some cases after they just hit their head precisely the right way, are documented. It does happen. Whether it's an engaging storytelling device... well, I don't know about that. I'll have to see it done. I agree that every X-Men villain should have psychic defenses, but then again, I don't know the circumstances of the Cuckoos rewiring her brain.>>124580458>I'd say modern justice is deply flawed because it's all about rehabilitonWhich justice system? The USA's definitely isn't all about rehabilitation, for example. It's about getting as many people as possible into prison, institutionalizing them, and relying on them for cheap labour. If you look at places where actual, no bullshit rehabilitative justice is being attempted, such as areas of Germany for example, it seems that the results are dramatically more helpful. Lower crime rates, lower recidivism, higher productivity, etc.
>>124580674 It takes an evil person to manipulate DNA results Spoliers it is Sebastian Shaws blood.
>>124580645Who, Gabby? Gabby is dead, bro. No-girl is just puppetting her body, keeping the blood flowing and shit until they can download her mind back into it.
>>124580560>Who cares what reddit says?Pretty much anyone that wants to make easy cash.
>>124580690Nah, Laura Clone is simply brain dead. Not dead, dead. Oxygen starved brain basically. Healing factor doesn’t stop the brain from starving.
Why are x-men refusing to help the purple girl? Her looking weird isn't actually part of her mutation, just something she accidently did to herself, why won't they just help her out?
>>124580560Moira MacTaggert messed with Magneto's DNA while he was reduced to an infant state by Mutant Alpha Actually, her appearance among Magneto's other children during the House of M is just a dream of Wanda and the wish for a sister . Krakoa Magneto even did a DNA test and that's how he knew Lorna was not his daughter.
>>124580787Nah she's dead dead. New Mutants' latest issues were all about them learning to use dead bodies like empty husks.Not that I would expect /co/ to actually read comics.>>124580843Only Dani so far refused, hypocritically so, because muh human standards of beauty. Yeah, I know: coming from someone with a VS model body.
X-Men comics are so fucking boring
>>124580843Because so far the only way the purple girl has asked for help is ritualistic suicide which would include Dani having to beat her to death with her bare handsAnd there's no guarantee that if she dies and comes back that she won't get stuck looking like this again, or worse, the next time she has a hormonal outburstTrying to teach her to control her powers better so that she might figure out how to undo it herself is a better long-term solution
>>124580938Lorna to steal a blood sample from a lab, with which she departed to have an independent, blind genetic test done by someone without any possible hidden agendas and that Person is Moria.
>>124580947Eh, I skipped Marauders and New Mutants. I dislike the alien bullshit, kinda wish they’d kill all the aliens with bird flu or have an intergalactic war between powers that Earth keeps out of. If they can barely write international politics, I find that aliens are just bland American politics.Marauders has Kitty wank. I hate Kitty, she’s every JAP I knew in HS.
>>124581038They literally can do body mods.
>>124580950Really? Idk, shit got pretty dark reading about the girl who killed her mom and tortured small animals because her dad was a pedo. I was like holy shit while reading it.
>>124581038The only reason she's like that is because when her powers awoke, she used it on herself accidentally. Her mutation didn't make her into a frog thing.
>>124580560Back in 1995 when the Age of Apocalypse came out, the general consensus was that she wasn't Magneto's daughter. Therefore you end up with Dark Beast explaining to Havok, Northstar & Aurora that he'd already done DNA testing on Polaris to determine whether there were any familial connections to Magneto... and had already discovered that she wasn't related to him.
>>124581333And she might use it on herself accidentally again is my pointShe needs to figure out how to use her powers to fix it, or she'll always be in danger of repeating that same mistake
>>124581399I don't see the point in changing it back just because an AU story from 1995 said that. The obvious solution is to leave Lorna as Magneto's daughter for anyone's "Magneto kid" needs, and leave the twins as Avengers characters with no more connections to the X-books. We don't need yet another layer of retcons upon retcons just for the sake of empty nostalgia for the way things were when people started reading.
>>124581293I don't care about women and you will never be one
>>124572612I enjoy Sebastian but he basically has no redeeming qualities. At least Emma has played antihero a few times. Shaw is just pure scoundrel.
>>124571905>god, not Godtriggered
>>124582333Maybe that will change if you fall in love, have a daughter or respect your mother. Also checked.
>>124571886wait how long has Tempus been around? I thought she was doing weird Dr.Strange Lite Zero Sugar Free adventures?
>>124571932>>124582671why not Wanda?
>>124582723she's been back since the start of Hickman, I don't think they ever addressed why she came back because the less said about Benis's run the better
>>124582753Has anyone ever mentioned the fact that she aged 8 years, had a husband and child that have been wiped from existence, and pretty much told Scott she will wipe him out like she did Mathew Malloy?Because she actually got interesting and now she's just bffs with Hope and gang. Like she literally gave birth and should have ptsd or something.
>>124583023No, because again, the less said about Benis the better
>>124571070>Bump if you're reading.
>>124577430So she's... Bipolaris?
>>124577654you mean the same way a hack retconned the twins to be magnetos kids because hair is the same color?
>>124577737the Cuckoos are literal clones of Emma and were introduced as such, you retard
>>124584534Wasn't them being her actual clones a reveal from Phoenix Warsong, years after they were introduced?
>>124575850Xorneto = Xorn + Magneto fusion ala Darwin and Vulcan
>>124576040Because you touch yourself at night !
>>124584392Youre just wrong.
>>124571099Wait, I thought we didn’t get this in comics anymore.
>>124584392Oh look another Avenger mcu fag.The mutants are taking back wanda and peitro, cope harder faggotron. Get rekt shitbird.
>>124584765He's not wrong. Neal Adams was the first artist to draw Magneto without his helmet, and gave him white hair, it became a fan-theory that he was Quicksilver's father. Roy Thomas making the twins into Legacy Heroes whose parents were WWII heroes may have been an attempt to kill that fan-theory, but eventually some of those fans got jobs with Marvel, and retconned them into being related.
>>124581293Bah , this is why I like Japanese hentai manga better , the dad-daughter sexual relationships much more often than not end happily ever after LOL
>>124571357Oh good, Leeland. I remember this fat fuck why isn't he around for Krakoa?
>>124584821>The mutants are taking back wandaShe was "an X-Men character" for all of five issues in 1964-1965, but you still talk like she should be property of the X-books.So when you "have her back" what are you going to do?>Demonize her and kill herWhy is this so important to you? What's wrong with you that you need to take a character away from people and wreck them for no reason?
>>124584890you're >implying she was in a good place before this
>>124584846Every Shaw appearance would have been improved immeasurably by him having his fat best friend still around.
>>124584906she was before she only became an x-men character. intertwining wanda with the x-men has done no good for her
>>124584906Anon, when "not appearing in comics at all" is a better status quo than what the X-books are doing with her, things are really, really bad.
>>124584956cope every character should be lucky to be involved in x-men books
>>124584983I really hope this is just bait and you don't genuinely believe that fans should appreciate what the X-books have been doing to her.
>>124585030I do. X-Men is the only franchise from marvel that matters
>>124585050Did you fall into a coma in the 1990s and just wake up?
>>124585069no just had to deal with marvel shitting over their best franchise before they remembered who pays the bills
>>124577719>Unless he lied, cheated, got himself fixed up immediately, has been faking his injuries all along and was the one who strangled Wanda. There you go.GODSDAMNIT, ANON.Also, fucking brilliant, mate.
>>124575083But his wife is too busy making him suck her bbfs cock for that
>>124580498Fuck Plebbit ! Did they never read Based Factor eh ?!
>>124585091This crap right here, this entitlement to take characters from other franchises and just destroy them, this belief that no other Marvel books or characters matter or sell, this is why you're the worst fandom. Because of people like you. You can't just stay in your own lane and leave everyone else alone. It's never enough for you to get something you enjoy, everyone else has to have nothing, and you justify it with some absurd delusion that you're keeping Marvel in business. You're awful.
>>124577537If Polaris is indeed retconned, can Magneto become her new babydaddy instead ?
>>124585163Hold the fuck on, so >>124580254 wasn't kidding? They legitimately turned Cyclops into a cuckold?
>>124585365I mean this is from pre-Gala X-force but it was pretty clear that they were fucking since that panel all the way back in HoXPoX
>>124585317copeyour franchise whatever it is is bullshit that doesnt matter compared to x-men. the only possible rival is spider-man and everyone has hated spider-man since omd
>>124585528Also these two pages from X-Force 10
>>124585682Actually X-force is constantly cutting to Wolverine on Jean fuckery whilst X-Men/Cable is about Cyke and Jean married life
>>124585500>>124585528>Cyclops literally getting cucked in a place called the Summer house.How can they do my boy like that. I'm glad I stopped reading after IvX. Is Reed and Sue the only marriage that hasn't been shit on yet?
>>124585716>Is Reed and Sue the only marriage that hasn't been shit on yet?
>>124585696Amazing, all the Wolverine fanfiction has finally come true.
>>124585125It would be a pretty good alibi."I couldn't possibly have done it, Emma. You saw to that yourself."
>>124578883Probably better than making her a copy and transferring her mind, since it's not a one-way transfer but the ironic kind you see in Soma where there would be a No-Girl enjoying her sweet restored body and one still a brain in the jar impotently I-have-no-mouth-and-I-must-screaming into the void.
> You can put people's souls and personalities and conscious and subconscious onto a floppy disc!It was retarded in the 80s, and its retarded now.
>>124587452I really would love if their was an explanation. Another series had the mind be the bridge between body and soul, ghosts were just the psychic remnants of the mind remaining after death. It meant that psychics couldn't do a body takeover permenantly because eventually the connection would fail.
>>124584906Wanda has appeared this year as a corpse in more panels than as a living being.This is really a story about Magneto in which Wanda is a non-speaking plot device.
>>124580545Its like a person made up shit without checking facts.But it is possible the X office muddled it up; their writers no nothing about her origin.
>>124585528Is Scott really Cucklops if he is obviously not liking it ? And to Hell with Bullverine , goddamnit
>>124585716Scott actually has a really nice Summer Shed. Oddly enough it's on Mars.
>>124587452To be fair they're using alien (possibly also magic) crystals for their backup medium.
>>124571452So are they implying>Vanessa used to be Chantel before she fell in love with Fisk>Emma mindraped Daredevil at some pointAnd we will never get any follow up to any of this
>>124588661You're thinking Fisk would stick his wily willy in a mutie? A mutie who hates humans? Also why Daredevil? Fisk has a lot going on, after all, that isn't all Daredevil.
>>124579899>Miss Frost have you ever heard of a lawyer by the name of Matt Murdock
>>124581293That's a basic dindu backstory
>>124582706>if you fall in love, have a daughter or respect your motherYou really think a guy spouting tranny memes in an X-thread is gonna have any of that
>>124575884I can't believe this is even happening at all. Nad now Rahne is okay with it? Ahh, this is crazy. I think I really like New Mutants. It makes me want to go read the og book.
>>124585528>Logan, we agreed that Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays were Scott and Jean days and I'm pretty sure it's still Wednesday for 40 more minutes
>>124579158Damn, that's a really good point.
>>124588682>You're thinking Fisk would stick his wily willy in a mutie? A mutie who hates humans?>When has Fisk ever shown that prejudice>It's not like we haven't seen mutant racists enjoy miscegenation (looking at you Magneto)>Chantel looks a lot like Vanessa>Fisk is well know for his obsession with Daredevil I know X-fags don't read other books but c'mon
>>124587717>>124587898>>124588863Not only did they turn Scott into Cucklops, but they even gave him a cuck shed. He is the embodiment of the Sweden cuck meme. Not even Blackbolt or Tchala got this treatment. What the hell happened to all the Cyclops hype they were pushing for a couple years. Jean literally rewrote 2 universes for the guy.
Blanka shows up on Krakoa, what do?
>>124589030Hes banging emma and jean.And Jeff the shark.
>>124576077Basically if the character has an existing lore it gets erased or ignored and absorbed into the X-narrative. Bendis's "No such thing as Chaos Magic" is a classic example of this flanderization, destroying a huge part of her narrative, which reduced Wanda to being Magneto's Daughter and nothing else.
>>124589101Hah , remember when they said that he and Nash were supposed to be the same person ? KEK
>>124588661Chantel never died so she can't be the very dead Vanessa.
>>124589030>tfw Cyclops was my favorite since Whedons Astonishing X-men run>defend him during Schism, defend him during AvX>bought into Cyclops was right>Wolverine had like 6 books and appeared everywhere, still like Cyke>get hyped when Cyclops was prepping for incursionsI should have known Hickman was gonna turn him into a cuck after Doom OHKO Phoenix Cyke.
>>124588914A few problems. Not showing that prejudice hardly equates him being good to go with the 400 lbs of pure muscle mating press and roll the dice that his kid doesn't wind up with a face only a Morlock could love, and also ignores that SHE has feelings against humanity. I mean goddamn, anon, they betrayed her, her sexy club, and nearly murdered her with a giant robot. She also seemed upset enough at the idea of being indebted to a crime boss, so you think she'd be grateful to have to pay with her pussy? Jesus Christ, dude.Plus it's clear you didn't even read THIS book since, get this, Emma was ALREADY indebted to Fisk. He just increased her own tab. So if he's going to use her against Daredevil he could have done that at any time and didn't need this particular venture. Even more stupid on your point however much they might look alike Emma said she was alive. Vanessa was killed and went through a series of resurrections (sometimes through cloning). Now nevermind that she never showed any teleportation abilities during those capers but why wouldn't any of THAT have shown up on Cerebro? You think both Emma and the Prof forgot to look her up?
>>124589461If it makes you feel any better Slott has someone fucking Doom's little lady behind his back and even hiding under the bed as he teleconferences with her.
>>124589590Would Jackal (Scarlet Spider) be able to recognize an X gene when he cloned her? Probably just dumped her in a cloning vat and called it a day without studying her genetics, though she supposedly had a purposeful degradation problem as a failsafe. I'll admit it would be tricky to make her Vanessa, but it's possible. Maybe they didn't look her up but Shaw will, realize she died, and will have her resurrected. Let's hope Fisk doesn't find out given what he did to the last copy of his wife.
>>124589775You guys are ignoring the possibility that Vanessa was already dead. X-Office don’t give a shit, but my head says that Fisk is showing her that BIG HVMAN COCK beats mutant dicklets. Let Fisk have a woman who is just as ambitious as him and let it be a pure love where both of them overcome prejudice and Fisk moves on. I’m a sucker for that shit honestly, where the villains lover/wife is a supporting partner.
>>124571309>>124571330What a bullshit retcon that he hit her
>>124589876>You guys are ignoring the possibility that Vanessa was already deadWhat possibility? She's been dead several times now.
>>124589895She was just letting her use him to charge up. Pretty kinky use of his powers, really.
I cant wait for the Krakoan civil war.
>>124589969If you read the back issue, the only actual force he uses on her was grasping her neck because he wanted desperately to save that ungrateful cunt Emma, and Harry and every second past could mean they were already dead
Is Marauders worth reading again? Only popping in for New Mutants
I'm just waiting for Namora to rule the oceans of mars.
>>124571433>>124571452after reading Zdaredevil all these usage of Fisk outside of that book just feels so off. Fisk right now is genuinely struggling in his post as mayor
>>124575887Anole got hit by some serious deaging retcon somewhere along the line.
>>124584153I laughed anon.
>>124571905It really looks like they are setting up Karma and Dani to fuck.
>>124590146Its a flash back of Fisk, so his attitude wont be accurate to current ongoings.
>>124571929I know you don't like to do X-Men Legends, but the PAD issue was pretty decent today.
>>124590160It should have happened ages agoIf Marvel wasn't full of cowards they could have done it in that Pride issue a few weeks back
>>124575884Farouk and the Shadow King are now seperate entities. The Shadow King should still be trapped in the Astral Plane from the Astonishing X-Men arc. Farouk was ressurected and allowed to live free of influence.
>>124576396cause editors and writers of every other franchise don't care about keeping anything consistent. Look at how fucked up the Avengers line is, none of the books have anything to do with each other.
>>124590111Obviously the kinky eye punching stuff happened off page. They clearly didn't think people at that time were able to handle such activities from the scandalous leather and latex bondage fetishism social club.
>>124589030>>124589609What's with Marvels obsession with cucking recently?
>>124575912phychopathy is not a clinical diagnosis, first of alland if she's the closest thing, a sociopath, that's a neurological disorder, it's not "curable", you are born with it.Why must we address the most retarded characters of WatXM is beyond me. Just kill them off panel,
>>124590145I still miss Namorita. RIP you sweet blue aquatic elf.
>>124589030if it makes you feel better Logan is going to be taking Solem's cock like he is taking Scotts
>>124571251lmao did they forget the hellfire kids aren't even twelve?this book oscillates between terrible and interesting at a fascinating rate.
>>124590005I can't wait for this entire run to get retconned
>>124590225it's actually amazing how much Claremont got away with in the 80s
>>124590251Some people mentioned that Logan and Scott are banging too but so far I've only see proof of Logan and Jean, with Scott just watching in the corner.
>>124590240Shame that Nita isn't blue anymore
>>124572612Emma always felt guilty over the shit she did. She never did pay for her stunts (mostly brainwashing people into suiciding for Hellfire Club goals) but she did her time mourning all her fucks ups. Specially the Hellions.
>>124590337Emma like getting her ass eaten.Deadpool calls her out on it when he visits Krakoa. Summers eats crystal ass.
>>124571624lmao finally someone calling karma on her bullshit>mmm yeah i'm gonna revive my dipshit assassin of a brother but fuck farouk a literal mindslave
>>124590371I'd eat her ass every day
>>124590302>>124590304Different Namorita anywayhttps://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Namorita_Prentiss_(Earth-TRN343)
>>124571835>kiddosAnole is your fucking age, man what the fuck
>>124572612Emma despises Shaw because they've been principal adversaries for most of her life, even during the Hellfire era. He's an awful, irredeemable man in more ways than one, and you're incel reaction here is pretty telling.
>>124590225>happened off pageIn other words, it never happened
Quick questionHave they brought up that a mutant can give birth to a human child?Or do they completely ignore it?
>>124591729A lot of things happen off page. It's comics, anon, they never show you everything, hell, they can't due to page limitations. How do you not know this?That or anon's awful joke because I doubt anyone was seriously suggesting she offered to let him smack her across the eye for the kinetic charge.
>>124585187>>124580227Lorna manipulate the DNA results.
>>124574068This is really useful, thanks. I wish Demon Days wasn't so slow, I really like that book. Anyone know how many issues it's going to be?
>>124590211So why are they calling Farouk "the Shadow King"?
>>124585187She is the bastard child who can't even stay relevant with active cleavage and magneto's powers. May as well put a bullet in herself.
>>124594262This looks like the moment before Maury reveals the DNA results.
>>124594006I suppose it's his mutant name like cyclops is his name now not Scott