And we're back! Today we'll finish up the Tails mini, and then Sonic 30, and Knuckles Chaotix.Thread Themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvV05M2kmzIPrevious threads.>>123454627 >>123476026 >>123510953 >>123530397 >>123552741 >>123574398 >>123600116 >>123625680 >>123650329 >>123671309
>>123691802Subtle as a brick through the glass.Bump
>>123691919Heh heh, ball chin.
>>123691647unironically like these guys when manak draws them
HOO BOI. Here we go.
Man, we got the start of DESTINY and Echidna autism in this thread.
>>123692179And to remind you, this is written by Gallagher, so he was the one with the idea.
>>123692080Even Manak's depiction of Penders' bullshit is fun compared to Penders' take later on. Look at those Echidnas zooming around
>>123691701>male Kangaroo>has a pouch
>>123692315It happens way more common then you think.
>>123692080Did they ever explain where the mountains came from?
>>123692337is the kangaroo masturbating
>>123692358It's a big island
>>123692402Man, does Tails get to fight literally anybody and win?
>>123692376>oh the humanitylmao
>>123692435Not until much much later. Until then, you'll have to just tough it out.
>>123691984The mysterious stranger contains potassium benzoate. (That's bad.)
>>123692250Somehow, Romy Chacon, whoever that was, got "Tails gets hypermuscular" out of all of this.
>>123692467>>123692489>Tails already close to an /ss/ scenario
>>123692702So what's the meat on the chilli dogs from, anyway? Will that pig guy Hamlin ever be shown eating them?
>>123692864>Snively sees Sonic's wiener
>>123692300And so begins another Tails ship
>>123691565O shit! Wheel Gator!
>>123691896What exactly were the Ancient Walkers supposed to be? Knock-off Watchers?
>>123693171Amybros, we've ENTER'd!
>>123693171So Knuckles just stood by as some rodent build an amusement park?
>>123693171I'd ask how anyone could build a whole amusement park on Knuckles's island without his say so, but then again even in the games there was Carnival Night zone.Knuckles is REALLY bad at his job.
Enter>>123693291I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be Night Carnival Zone.
>>123693297>Espio eavesdroppingMore unintentional foreshadowing.
>>123693349Even then he jobs hard to Speedy
>>123691444Real talk: are the Forty Fathoms Freedom Fighters the lamest FF team? If not, then who?
>>123693328Wasn’t there also an entire village and ski resort there in the Adventure games.Knuckles chats shit about being the last echidna when he could’ve just hung out with the humans.
skipped a page. read this before this>>123693384>
I wonder if this Metal Sonic design was intentionally meant to be an upgraded form or if it was just the artist taking liberties like he did with Heavy and Bomb.
>>123692489>the fucking CORAL fixed the sub
>>123691405God damn it Gallagher and Manak were the absolute worst they could have chosen for the Tails mini. The art really hurts the story.
>>123693530Well it's based on Chaotix's final boss and that was a bit ambiguous as to how Metal transformed beyond it involving the Dark Ring.
>>123692535Fun reminder, Ian Flynn gets legitimately triggered about these two.
>>123692511Panel 1, of course, looked like this before the great censorship of 96
>>123693729Kek, nice job
>>123693008It amazes me that Coconuts was still being used this long after the show ended (granted, there was the Christmas special, but that was a one-off)
>>123693729Many such cases. Sad!
>>123693792The asoth bots still get used in the comic for a while. And they're show up during Ians run.
>>123693318I always forget Penders gave Vector the exaggerated swagger of a black teen
And that's the end of today's storytime. See you tomorrow.
Name a single Archie Sonic character that suffered more than Charmy.You literally can't.
>>123693949This particular version of Metal Sonic always looked creepy as hell
>>123693560That's 21,285 broken mirrors, in case anyone was wondering
>>123693984Me, reading through the comic
>>123693336>I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be Night Carnival Zone.No, the comic is pretty good about ripping from the source material. It looks like it's just a regular carnival.
>>123694092Doesn't count, most of it was his own comeuppance.
>>123693391The Substitute Freedom Fighters
>>123692947Spaz really likes Robotnik's teeth.
>>123693769>Sing out, you heroes!Early Archie writers had a habit of sprinkling in the oddest phrases. "Whoops apocalypse." from just after Endgame comes to mind as well.
>>123693328I thought Carnival Night was supposed to be Eggman's main power plant for the Launch Base, done like a carnival because Eggman is a big manchild. He does the same thing when making his Newtrogic High base in Chaotix, though the US localization really altered the whole plot.
>>123694957Whatever it was for, it's still weird Knuckles let it be built and seemingly never questioned it.
>>123693970Cucked by the BRC
>>123694992Knuckles was under the fake belief that Eggman would remove the giant "dragon's egg" that was weighing down the island, so he was pretty complacent in everything up until he saw Eggman stealing the Master Emerald.
>>123694806He doesn't like /ss/.
>>123691668>The Shitpost Freedom Fighters!
>>123691444Titan Tails foreshadowing
>>123693171Geoffrey sure is happy with that stuffed animal. He must plan on using it as bait to lure kids into his van.
>>123692535Besides Koala sex, why would he stay there?
>>123693537That reminds me of that one website where some fan reviewed every single issue of Archie Sonic (at least at the time), and he'd rate them by the art, the logic of the story AND the emotional beats of the story. I think there was some other stuff, but I forget.Anybody know what website I'm talking about?
>>123696250Dan Drazen's site?
>>123693171This really goes to show how different the Archie and DiC characters looked when compared to anything produced by SEGA of Japan.
Please don't spam fanart, if no one is posting let the thread 404.
>>123696277Daaaaaaaaaaamn, didn't expect an answer so soon! Also, holy shit, is that Web 1.0 design a blast from the past...
>>123696444Drazen was famous in the fanbase and would later be tangentially related to some writer drama, around issues 100 to 130, so your description immediately clicked to me. He stopped reviewing at last around the Sonic the Fighters arc, finally accepting the comic was not SatAM and was far away from what he wanted the comic to be.
>>123696479Took him that long? By the Sonic Adventure arc, it was clear they were well past trying to be SatAM.
>>123696514I'm surprised too and always forget that he made it to past the reboot.
>>123693318>those lyricsDo the Vectorman!
>>123691775We're never going to see them again, are we?
>>123696608No, they do become kinda recurring- of the non-Robotropolis FF teams, they're probably the most recurring, even. That said no, as far as I recall, we never get the story about how they'd trashed a Crocbot base already.Also obvious gag but might as well point it out- >>123691775 the base is based on the Sydney Opera house
>>123692184Ah yes, the height of technology, the CO-Rom.
>>123692200Oh, he's installing more RAM.
>>123692643I was wondering when he would go Starscream.
>>123692529From my collection, the original color guide for this cover.
>>123693984Maybe one of the dystopian Enerjak alternative universe future characters, but not any of the mainline characters
>>123696732Happens all the time in those futuristic 80s/90s animes that still used floppy disks.
>>123692947Is this the fist AoS character appearance or did I forget his others already?
>>123693008I think this is the most "furry" we've seen Bunny drawn yet.
>>123697053Scratch, Grounder, and Coconuts have been regulars since I think the second issue, though they get phased out as the drama takes over. I don't think they're ever seen again until Ian takes over and Mammoth Mogul turns them into his employees at Casino Night.
>>123696957That’s amazing. It’s nice to see collectors on /co/.
>>123697116I think they show up in issue...40?
Damn, rereading Drazen's reviews is pretty damn interesting: apparently when Robotnik was zapped by E.V.E. in #21, he was meant to STAY dead, and it was only after Sega of Japan threw a fit that Penders undid it in #22, where he also explicitly showed the 25YL universe as separate from the original Mobius due to Sega throwing a completely separate fit. Also, Princess Sally's miniseries was meant to be her reconnecting with her roboticized mother, but again Sega said no.
>>123697144Ken Penders really didn't like the comic's mostly-stupid Robotnik and was trying to replace him with his own super-evil Robo-Robotnik.
>>123692184MULTIMEDIA was the big buzzword of the mid-90s... CDs for data was like the coolest shit for a kid growing up, so seeing it in a comic is like "woah I know this, cool".
>>123697202>My school gets a computer with various activity CDs>One of them is simply called Speed and I think it has to do with the movie>Find out it's nothing but a showcase for generic speed-based factoids
>>123693486So, Mighty is just Knuckles but not as edgy.
>>123697144Wait, I was under the impression SOJ and SOA were mostly uncaring about the book for most of its run, until the lawsuits... You would think the editors would have stepped in earlier if their IP holder was complaining this much.
>>123693602Since they didn't get an ongoing, I'm guessing no one wrote in.
>>123697227Mathblaster and... some hospital game? Where you walk around a mostly empty hospital in 3d and help patients by shooting stuff... While miniature and walking through their bodies?And of course Doom once the kids figured out how to install it...
>>123697276Archie did that "Write in if you want more with these characters" every time new ones were introduced. I think the only time such an offer was followed up on was a single page gag strip with the reality-warpers Al and Cal.
>>123693729There's no way this is real.
>>123693924There are so many characters. I'm having a hard time caring about most of them. I would call them one note, but some of them don't have a note at all.
>>123696328>IthiliamUnironically my favorite sonic artist, well maybe that's just because of the comic(s) she did. Couldn't go one comic without Sonic being violently raped.
>>123697363They ARE one note. They're literally all the same note all at once with the piano key being held down for hundreds of issues.
>>123697232I imagine it was one of those things where SoJ and SoA learned about it after the fact; I can easily some SoA exectutive's kid bought the latest issue and went "Daddy... why is Robotnik dead?" and suddenly everyone at the top is losing their shit.>>123697276Well, Knuckles got his own ongoing, and the Chaotix showed up in pretty much every issue, so technically...
>>123693729fucking based lol
>>123697363Don't expect a while lot from the Chaotix umder Penders pen.
>>123693848Why was he even hiding?
Here's an interesting line from Drazen's review of the Tails mini:>Instead of the line from Manta or Bottlenose at the bottom of page 21 we get an offscreen "A-HEM!" Turning, Tails is startled to see Sonic, Tails and Bunnie standing up the beach. He happily runs toward them, starting to say "Boy, am I ever..." then slams on the brakes when he (and we) notice their cross expressions and he finishes the thought "...in big trouble!" "Well, Miles Prower," Sally says, "what do you have to say for yourself?" "She called me by my full name!" Tails thinks, "I'm doomed!" He looks from one Freedom Fighter to another, then notices that Sonic has turned his back to him. "Sonic?" he asks hesitantly before Sonic whirls around and...hugs the stuffing out of the kid (Sonic's face can be hidden to placate The Powers That Be). "Tails, honey," Bunnie says with a smile, "y'all had us worried sick!" Then Sally gets to supply the exposition: When Tails failed to return by suppertime, Sonic went to look for him and found the Sea Fox gone. Doing an aerial search from the Freedom Fighter Special which has been converted into a sea plane, they spot the wreckage of the Sea Fox. Rotor dives down to check it out and everyone fears the worst when they get the news (a great opportunity for a drawing of Bunnie and Sally in each other's arms, crying their eyes out). That's when Bottlenose shows up, asks them what's going on and tells them that Tails is alive and in Downunda. That would give the group reason to get down there, with Rotor able to repair the Sea Fox en route if need be. I mean, c'mon: repaired by a piece of coral!?
>>123698537Well, if you go by the later retcon, he's spying on them and for now is only pretending to be Knuckles's friend.
>>123697329It's not. It's just an edit.
>>123691647These guys are actually pretty cool.What's a Panda doing in Australia though
>>123692337I remember seeing this as a kid and thinking how cool it'd be to play as the kangaroo in a game
>>123692551>that first panelOh dear
>>123696190Idk, maybe because they don’t treat him like a little kid the way the FF do? He came there looking for respect and he seemed to have found a some of it by the end.
>>123693199Oh hey. The drug dealer
>>123693171>supposed to be a adaption of Chaotix>it doesn't even take place in Newtrogic High Zone
>>123701144Penders give zero fucks
>>123694874I'd say even substitute FF are better.>>123697232IIRC at some point someone from archie got a job in sega licensing department, letting penders play fast and loose with being authentic to sonic.
>>123701418Hell, at least the Subs did shit. What did the 40 Fathoms lot do, besides give Tails a ride that one time?
>>123702124Also, the fact that they are just animals with human eyes, not even anthros.
>>123702272Say what you like about Leon the Porcupine, at least he had opposable thumbs
>>123701229If only he kept that mentality.
>>123702124Take on an island of misfit Badniks who were trying to revive Pseudo-Sonic.
>>123704746Don't bump if you have nothing to discuss
>>123701144>>123701229They based the story on Chaotix's english manual, which never mentioned the Newtrogic High Zone.By Penders's standards, the story is pretty faithful to the game manual, it's just that the one time he decided to pay attention to the given story was the one time it resembled very little of what was in the game.
>>123704888Stop backseating as a tranny janny. We don't need anymore of theses biased mentally ill Twitter immigrant bastards reprehending everyone and their mothers.
>>123693769I wish the story was better structured. Knuckles story with Archimedes is cool but its strung between all these other arcs that I completely forgot about it until now
>>123706648Ah, then I hop you like getting two pages of it every issue then.
Thanks for the storytime, Op.
>>123691859they must've made the "anyone get the number of" joke like 7 times now christ