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Kind of a shame they retconned Kanan's comic, but I understand. I probably would have done the same if I had been in charge of the show.
>>122806773So much for having “one canon”. Maybe they’ll just retcon it to be Kanan’s hazy memory or something.
What was the point of Kanan in this episode?What was the point of Kanan in TCW S7?
>>122806773What happened in Kanan's comic?
>>122806773I normally don't mind retcons if the change is for the better like Maul's duel with Ahsoka but Kanan comic had the superior Order 66 scene.It's also ironic that they retcon that comic since that had a clone straight up resisting the chip long enough to sacrifice himself.
>>122806855They gotta use those models, anon. People got paid to rig, texture, animate and render those polygons. As the Native Americans once did, use every part of the buffalo to eat.
>>122806860No Bad Batch obviously. The clones, who as you can see also had a different color scheme, just attack them during the night (not the day, and also no snow), and Kanan's master sacrifices herself to let Kanan escape, like in the show. 2 of those clones who had names then relentlessly pursue Kanan for months, but ultimately one of them manages to get over his brainwashing enough to sacrifice himself and stop the other clone from killing Kanan.
>>122806855Because they want to connect the Clone Wars era to the Rebels era, duh. Plus, plot-wise it makes sense to start with Order 66, so they went with a jedi that audiences would recognize, as well as give the Bad Batch a chance to not act out their orders and let a jedi escape.
So which SW characters do you think will appear at some point in the series, other than the ones shown in the trailer?>Bo-Katan>Quinlan Vos>Dryden Vos>Ahsoka Tano>Boba Fett>Cal Kestis>Cad Bane>Darth Vader>Republic Commandos
>>122807100Which ones are in the trailer other than Ming Na?
>>122807052There are tons of other famous named Jedi that they could have used - Luminara on Kashyyyk, Quinlan Vos, whatever, you name it. OR they could have been transferred back to Coruscant to attack the Jedi Temple. Now that would have been cool. Also, 3 of them not having their chips working, but this obviously evil dude Crosshair having his functioning just fine was lame as fuck. Crosshair has been a dick since he was introduced. He would have stayed loyal to the Empire regardless.>Because they want to connect the Clone Wars era to the Rebels eraand they do that in the most ham-fisted way possible, also retconning entire comic books
Are we going to get the Kaminoan Rebellion in this show?
>>122806773>>122806903The og version was better but hopefully they clarify that what happened to Caleb after he escaped the Bad Batch was similar to the comic. Janus Kasmir, the Kallerans and Kleeve were cool designs thrown to the wind as well. There were some pointless changes too like the color of Depa Billaba's lightsaber, really weird. The Order 66 sequence actually felt like one of the weaker aspects of the episode desu. Kanan sounded way too old, the directing fell a bit flat when it came to Billaba's death scene and the music didn't fit imo. And on top of that they retconned a good comic so it was a meh start but I did like the Bad Batch and Omega, episode was rough around the edges though.
>>122807100>Bo-KatanUnlikely unless the Bad Batch has to go to Mando space.>Quinlan VosMaybe.>Dryden VosVery likely.>Ahsoka TanoUnlikely outside of holograms.>Boba FettVery likely.>Cal KestisNot very likely at all. >Cad BaneVery Likely>Darth VaderVery Likely>Republic CommandosGregor? Maybe. Delta Squad? Unlikely.
>>122807223We're already seen in the first episode like Tarkin and Saw Gerrera but Rex and Fennec were also shown
>>122807243Let's face it, viewers are more likely to recognize Kanan than to recognize Luminara or Quinlan Vos.
>>122807243Showing what happened to younglings from the S5 arc would've worked too. Tera Sinube being a badass old man and sacrificing himself to save the kids in the temple or something.
>>122807278>Cal Kestis>Not very likely at allI said this because they depicted Bracca in the trailer
So, the kid they picked up was raised by aliens on clone planet, and just knew how to use a blaster.Will the kid be a jedi, or something else that is complex/interesting?Also, that boy jedi that ran away will probably make a return at some point, i look forward to that.
>>122807243Who wrote the comics? It has to suck to create a character and spend years writing them only for some random to come up with how they survived order 66
>>122807298yeah, another fucking scam, advertising this show as a direct TCW sequel and having TCW logo being burned, you cynical faggots>people would more likely recognize fucking Kanan than Luminara or Quinlan Vos in a fucking TCW sequelit's all so tiresome
>>122807261Would be cool to reintroduce the concept to Star Wars.>”Officially, there never was a rebellion on Kamino”It would probably the event that tells the Empire to immediately stop the clone trooper program and use conscripts and volunteers from now on.
>>122807368>Will the kid be a jedi, or something else that is complex/interesting?Did you miss the point where Tech confirmed that she is an enhanced clone?
>>122807336it's not bracca, it's some junk moon of Ord Mantell
>>122807278There were a bunch of toy descriptions a while back that leaked Bo-Katan appearing Bad Batch, maybe it will explore the aftermath of the Siege of Mandalore?It wouldn't surprise me that they would suddenly force in as much Mandalorian references as possible considering the eponymous show's success.
>>122807368Cloned from a jedi I assume>>122807100Next episode will have the clone who married a twilek. Cut or whatever.
>>122807383Greg Weissman wrote the Kanan comic, creator of Gargoyles and Spectacular Spider Man
>>122807421>maybe it will explore the aftermath of the Siege of Mandalore?>It wouldn't surprise me that they would suddenly force in as much Mandalorian references as possible considering the eponymous show's success.I'd imagine that it's a fair assumption. It'd certainly provide a venue to develop some resentment of clones that she conveyed to Boba.
>>122807394Yeah, but an enhanced Clone of who?This being Disney odds are good she's going to be a copy of an established character.
>>122807383Greg Weisman, the creator of Disney's Gargoyles.
>>122807394Do you think there's going to be a twist that reveals she isn't a clone of Jango and she's considered to be enchanced for another reason?
>>122807336>>122807419There are tons of junk planets and the Scrapper Guild doesn't necessarily have to be solely based on Bracca. Ord Mantell is in Bad Batch and that has a junk moon, Raxus is also appearing so they could reintroduce Raxus Prime as a junk world within the same system, might even be a new planet.
>>122807419It's definitely Bracca at daylight, it has the scattered Star Destroyer landscape and the people there are even the same scrapper uniforms from the game
>>122807391It technically is a direct sequel since it immediately follows after that show, has the same art style, and will presumably continue a bunch of storylines and reintroduce characters from CW.The hope is that Bad Batch is going to be Rebels but way better.
>>122807526Jaro Tapal would've been cool in Bad Batch. Ah well.
>>122807469>>122807481I don't know. What I do know is that Crosshair is evidence that accuracy with a blaster is something that can be genetically reinforced, and for her to be able to outgun an experienced sharpshooter with her first time holding a blaster, I don't think that is something to be overlooked.At the same time, I don't think her being a Kiwi should be overlooked either. I don't think it is unreasonable to assume deducing who she is a clone of will be a plot point of the show moving forward. I just really hope we don't get a deus ex Force user again. Unicorn clones on the run from the Empire in the early days of it is an interesting enough concept, especially since you'd think based on everything afterward that at a minimum, they probably don't make it as far as S1E1 of Rebels.
>>122807495Raxus is a Separatist capital, it has nothing to do with Raxus Prime, much like Malachor in rebels is not Malachor V we know, but rather an easter egg.>>122807526No, it's definitely not. They go to Ord Mantell in this show, and Ord Mantell has a moon called Quantxi. >Quantxi, also known as the Junk Moon of Ord Mantell, was one of at least three moons that orbited the Mid Rim planet Ord Mantell. The wreckage of Emperor Palpatine's yacht, the Imperialis, was located on Quantxi after the ship was stolen and destroyed. Also located with the Imperialis's wreckage were several excavator droids, which had been sent along with the ship to the desert world of Jakku as early as three years prior to the start of the Clone Wars.
>>122807581Considering how baby yoda took off, I'm not surprised "Gruff older warrior takes care of force sensitive child" is a template they'd try again
With the news of Matt Lanter confirming he's reprising his role as Anakin for something at Lucasfilm animation, do you think the rumors of multiple animated movies in the works might be true?Considering what they did to the Kanan comic, I woudn't be surprised if Son of Dathomir, Crystal Crisis on Utapai, and Dark Disciple get replaced by animated adaptations on Disney+.
>>122807582Raxus Prime is canon. But admittedly Lotho Minor from TCW S4 was Raxus Prime in all but name. Visually it looks like it could be Bracca, Quantxi bc of Ord Mantell or some new planet.
>>122807625>"Gruff older warrior takes care of force sensitive child" is a template they'd try againenough with the child escort missions
When are we getting the usual May the Fourth announcements and trailers?
>>122807685Is SW Celebration 2021 still going to be a thing?
Did they just forget to chip them? What the fuck
>>122807729Bro you need to watch the episode
>>122807666I'd be fine with that. Why not? They've got an updated Grievous model, they're already using assets from those arcs in Bad Batch too like Pantora and Raxus. It'd be cost effective to make TCW movies based on old arcs.
>>122807729They explained it, their mutations made the brainwashing not work on them properly, except for Crosshair. And in Echo's case, the Separatists' modifications made the chip no longer work.
>>122807625There is a slight bit of difference between the lone wolf and cub trope of Mando, here though. Omega has already endeared herself to Hunter and Wrecker at least, and while Tech and Echo seem ambivalent toward her, Crosshair was the only one who seemed antagonistic.I really hope they can get him back in the fold. It feels bad losing one of the group that has done so much with them, just because of the inhibitor chip.Honestly, she seemed to recognize that Crosshair was under the influence of his chip, and the conveys her knowing more than she has volunteered. The question becomes how much.I adore Grogu, but he was a glass canon in Mando. It'll be nice having more of an Ellie but not quite an Ahsoka than a perma escort, who can at least take care of herself and contribute. I found myself questioning if her capacity as a medical assistant may suggest that she has any training, or if it was just 100% a cover story.
>>122807476And now he's too busy being mega edgy with the newer YJ seasons. Dude definitely needs to have a leash for the best results.Would be cool if they managed to get him to write an episode though. I know he's busy with YJ S4, but still. An Anon can dream.
>>122807745As somebody said in the previous thread, canon goes:Movies > Live-action shows > Cartoons > Videogames > Comics > BooksHigher tiers take priority and can ignore lower tiers if they wish.
>>122807729They have chips but because they're defective they don't function. Crosshair's is the only one who's got a somewhat functioning chip.
>>122807803I would say all "visual" SW content except comics like Movies/TV/Cartoons/Videogames are all on the same tier of canon while books, comics, and everything else are fair game.
>>122807720No, when they announced the new date for Celebration, they set it to 2022 to be safe.
>>122807854I'd say that movies will always take priority, especially the core movies.
Woudn't want to be that poor unlucky bastard
>>122806903Aw shit, is that Clayton Henry? Loved hos work in Valiant.
>>122807891True. You can see with the ST how the books and comics all bent around the ever changing storyline of those movies.
This shit has 16 episodes, each clocking in about 30 minuteshttps://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/star-wars-the-bad-batch-crew-talks-season-length-omega-and-imperial-oppression/
>>122807957Pepe Larraz. He does a lot of work for Marvel.
>Live-action Echo looks like that?!
>>122807967They kept trying to make sense of the First Order but with every movie they just kept adding more shit that contradicted what the NuEU had set up, mostly because it contradicted the previous movies because there was no fucking plan.
>>122808099I'm still mad that Poe Dameron's comic had established a backstory for Poe, then out of nowhere the last movie gives him a criminal past that isn't even plot relevant and adds nothing to the story.
>>122808008Echo needs a sun tan and a burger.
>>122808099JJ wasn't very cooperative with Lucasfilm's other divisions which is why they liked Rian so much. Rogue One and Solo were reshot to hell and back too so a lot of the new EU struggled to keep up with the erratic productions of the new movies.Strangely though Force Awakens still had quite a big push behind it when it came to books and comics despite the troubled production that film had, but a lot of the things the authors were teasing in those was thrown aside in the later movies. I remember when people were rabidly speculating about the Unknown Regions and the force tree Luke took in that comic with Poe's mom.
>>122808099>The First Order are just a fringe group of Imperial remnants led by the mysterious Snoke out in the Outer Rim, that's why the New Republic ignored them until it was too late.>Suddenly at the start of the next movie, they'd taken over entire galaxy because even though they no longer had their superweapon, everybody just gave up for no reason. Also Snoke is dead, who cares, this emo kid is in charge now.>Then by the next movie it turns out that the First Order was just Sheev all along and he suddenly has like millions of Sith cultitsts with 10000 super ships that can each destroy planets all on their own, so why did they bother with Starkiller and ARGHHHHHHH
>>122808008Looks like bald Neil Patrick Harris
Why does the Padawan sound like he's 35?
>>122808256They got Freddy Prinze Jr. to reprise the role and he's in his forties
>>122808256Filoni couldn't resist calling in Freddie Prinze Jr (who voices the adult version of the character) despite sounding nothing like a 12 yr old. Could've at least pitched his voice down in editing or something.
>>122808256because he is actually 45
Guesses for what nu-canon is going to do with the whole clone rapidly aging into retirement age thing? Will they even try to deal with that concept?
>>122808240Pretty hypocritical of JJ Abrams, since he ended up abandoning Star Trek because he was mad at other divisions of CBS/Paramount still using classic Star Trek stuff instead of going all-in on his new movie canon.
>>122808099>there was no fucking plan.This is why the ST feels so empty
>>122808335Did you forget that we saw old man Rex and other old clones in Star Wars Rebels?
decided to watch the clone wars, when does the show pick up and become good? so far its mainly 1 off episodes with childish tropes
>>122808347Because it was never about creator integrity, it was about JJ Abrams integrity. He doesn't give a fuck about those OTHER guys who have "ideas", it's all about him.
>>122808405Around season 3
>>122808335We’ll have Clone Stormtroopers for the majority of the first season for a while until Tarkin starts creating his actual Stormtroopers by the end of of the season. Bad Batch will probably die before they reach retirement age all except for Omega and Echo.
>>122808335Rex is still alive by ROTJ but they'll probably find some cheat that halts the ageing process. Like Ahsoka hunts down a Kaminoan scientist or something. And because the Bad Batch aren't regular clones they don't have to conform to established rules that regular clones do. Clone Force 99 and Omega might not have accelerated ageing.
>>122808347It was more that he was mad that merchandising of TOS kept being made, so fans logically bought Kirk figures based on Shatner's likeness than ones based on Chris Pine. He basically viewed it as the franchise competing with itself.
>>122808372I was thinking more about the clones that stayed loyal to the end. What's the Empire going to do with a bunch of 70 something year olds? Seeing Cody and those other guys all them sent to work the coal mines or something once they're decrepit would be enjoyable television.
How fast do clones age anyway. Do we see any clones with grey hair and wrinkles before end of the Clone Wars or is it too soon?
>>122808442The 99 must have accelerated aging, otherwise they'd be the same age as Boba right now.
>>122808442Clone Force 99 have to have accelarated aging, otherwise they'd be teenagers like Boba.
>>122808253It's even worse now that we have a comic showing that Palpatine was building those super ships right after Empire Strikes Back, rendering the goddamn Death Star 2 pointless.
>>122808498Use the clones to train the stormtroopers.
>>122808533But Omega might not.
>>122808498>What's the Empire going to do with a bunch of 70 something year olds? >Seeing Cody and those other guys all them sent to work the coal mines or something once they're decrepit would be enjoyable television.I think we’re too still too early to see old Clone Troopers doing menial work in the empire. I don’t know if they’ll ever show that even though they’ve teased the concept since 2013. What we know is that they’re largely out of the picture five years after the Clone Wars and clones who were produced late were incorporated into the Stormtrooper Corps.
>>122808507every year a human ages one year, a clone ages two years in the same amount of time. how hard is it to understand accelerated growth
>>122808507AotC states they age twice the rate of a normal man. Rex and most clones are biologically 26~ years old when they are actually thirteen.
>>122808539To be fair, it's possible that the technology of those stardestroyer-size planet busters wasn't fully developed yet and it took 20 years to work out. Keep in mind, it took 19 years to get the first Death Star up and running.
>>122808253It’s funny how pretty much none of the live action or animated stuff touch the ST. Pretty much because the can’t. The stories a broken mess that leaves no room for expansion and only takes place over a year or so there’s literally no way to expand it. Plus there’s no character development offscreen like in the PT and OT. Hell there is barely any development at all as the characters roughly stay the same with the main trio borderline despising each other for it all
>>122808726Exactly, you can't do something like the ongoing Star Wars comic set during the OT or the Clone Wars set between Episodes II and III with the Sequel Trilogy. You'd think that Disney would have tried to put some gaps in the movies for the sake of future expanded material. And there aren't even any interesting side characters that people would want to see get their own spin-off.
>>122808676Even if we assume that to be the case, why did he leave a fleet of perfectly serviceable warships lying around gathering dust during a period of galactic warfare? Why did Palpatine build a second version of his clearly flawed initial design instead of moving fully into the more mobile, less vulnerable prototypes? How among all the seized imperial records and intercepted communications and Imperial defectors was there not a single hint of enough materials being moved to create an entire fleet?And of course, since we now know for a fact that Vader saw the plans and schematics with his own two eyes and knew exactly what Palpatine intended to do with them and their exact location, why did he never warn Luke about it?
>>122808773At best you could do a few stories set between Episodes VIII and IX of Rey, Finn and Poe going on missions for the Resistance and try to develop the state of the galaxy more than the movies ever bothered. Problem is, would anybody care?
Omega is Force sensitive right? Like that's the twist?
>hologram of palpatine's speech cut right from ROTS>even animate him looking up as he does in the senate chamberits the attention to detail that gets me sometimes
wrecker should just fucking die, he is unbearable
>>122808859Or having to animate some of RotS scenes at the start of the episode. They could easy just use TCW S7 footage but they worked their asses of just for a few frames. Ï love this kind of stuff.>>122808842I bet she can control or take part of the clones' skills and mental waves.
>>122808913Fuck Clone Force 99 in general.Should've been a Republic Commando squad.
>>122808842From the way she phrased some stuff I more got the vibe that she was precognitive. Which, admittedly, is a Force power, but it feels more specific.
>>122808942>we live in the universe where we got The Bad Batch and not the one where we got “Star Wars: The Delta Squad”
>>122808809>You now remember the "what is she" poster
>>122809108Well, he's finally got an answer. She's dead.
>>122808631Wouldn't they be mentally tgirteen then?
>>122809108No i don't. Tell me.
>>122806773I wouldn't mind if they redo a shot by shot of Obi's duel with Maul in his series since they are inclined to it.
>>122809223Flash training. We can assume that a regular Clone Trooper is at least slightly smarter/mature than their Stormtrooper successors because of genetics/upbringing.
>>122809108>>122809186we also actually got an answer as to what species she is from a book too
>>122809396What's her race?
>>122806726Today I finally watched Bad Batch episode 1. All in all I enjoyed the episode and Omega was tolerable and cute. Shame they went replacing the clones quick and Tarkin disliking the clones in general. Can't wait for episode 2.
>>122809573They are setting up a Kamino rebellion arc. We back in 2005 baybee!
>>122807100>Bo-KatanHighly likely. (Dave always touches back to Mando stuff when possible and this is the right time to see her deposed by the Empire and replaced with Gar Saxon).>Quinlan VosPossible.>Dryden VosPossible.>Ahsoka TanoPossible.>Boba FettPossible, but not likely.>Cal KestisNo.>Cad BaneNot likely.>Darth VaderHighly likely.>Republic CommandosPossible.Also, concerning any Jedi characters to appear will probably mean that members of the Inquisitorious are likely to appear as well.
>>122809606The Kamino Uprising :)I think Nala will betray Lama Su.
>>122809622More inquisitors would be nice. Maybe a vader episode?
>>122808993>>122808987here's to hoping they are a rival squad in later episodes
>>122807138aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWdhLm56L2ZvbGRlci95SWxCVkNLVCNISk1yTmQxMEpaTWxmM1VYbkpybTRBDecode at base64 now.
Are Quinlan an Dryden related?
>>122809688No. They're not even the same species.
>>122809647probably not gonna happenthey didn't even bother inserting some clone commandos in the background on Kamino, despite having the opportunity to do so
>>122809631>Officially, there never was a clone rebellion on Kamino. Unofficially, approximately twenty years after we were created, a special detachment of the Imperial 501st Legion was dispatched to Kamino, with orders to eradicate an army of clones that had been bred to take arms against the Empire. Our mission commander, an expert on the inner workings of Kamino, was a young bounty hunter named Boba Fett.
>>122809651Oh cool.. The poster can now rest
>>122809688No. In fact he was originally going to be an alien played by Michael K Williams before the reshoots so I think the surname is coincidence.
>>122806726i just wanna see rex and cody interact one more time
>>122809943I want someone realizing and reacting to Anakin being Vader. Like the librarian in the comics.
The Crystal Crisis arc with this battered looking Grievous model would've been quite a sight. Alas, we got the Retardez sisters instead.
>>122810025Echo. If anyone will find out it'll be him. Rex never found out unless they retcon that from Rebels and Ahsoka didn't learn until Rebels as well. And it'd be sad because Anakin was the one who saved him alongside the Bad Batch and Rex.
>>122806726>be Wrecker >get shot
>>122810145twice, in just about the same spot
>>122810091That would be great.
>>122807243Hmm I agree.
>>122810058Maybe it's one of those stories they will turn into an animated movie.
>>122810378It would be a worthy contender for whatever it is that Matt Lanter spilled the beans about the other day, problem is even the reel they released in 2015 has been voiced.
>>122807100>>Bo-KatanMight just since she's Dave's sidehoe>>Quinlan VosCould be>>Dryden VosDon't think so>>Ahsoka TanoI wouldn't hope for it but since it's Clone Wars then that's a definite yes>>Boba FettNot porbable>>Cal KestisNever and that's a shame>>Cad BaneMight just but he's already forgotten>>Darth VaderGreatly probable>>Republic CommandosBased if they do. A Deltas vs 99s episode is much needed.
>>122809647>Crosshair gets drafted into delta squad to replace Sev
>>122810091How poetic it would be for Anakin to take pity on Rex since they're both "more machine than man" now.
>>122807666Good point.Also execute Orer 666
>>122808008He looks like He shoots people in the dick.
>>122806726Will we get Cody???
>>122810636>for Anakin to take pity on Rex since they're both "more machine than man" now.You mean Echo, right?
I'm wondering how many contracts were ripped up by Palpatine and his lackies under the New Regime. That's one way to balance the books.
>>122810914Oh, right, Echo I was looking at their figures when I said that.
>>122811020No worries, bruv.
So is Omega some kind of clone injected with midoclorians/jedi DNA?
>>122810981>I'm wondering how many contracts were ripped up by Palpatine and his lackies under the New Regime.Probably just the Kaminoans. If say Kuat Drive Yards' original contracts were diminished with the change of government, then the Empire very likely gave them even better ones considering the Imperial navy was considerably bigger than the GAR's. Weapon and ship manufacturers probably loved the Empire.
>>122811078>So is Omega some kind of clone injected with midoclorians/jedi DNA?No, she's just a chance mutation. They spell it out for us that she's just an error from the cloning batches and was thus designated defective. She's basically 99, but with a twat.
>>122811078They don't want to tell the emperor, so maybe.
>>122811545Ah yes, because the most famous rule of storytelling is that we know exactly what everything is in the first episode, and that never changes
>>122811078Her quirk is that she's force-sensitive. I thought her interaction with Crosshair in the cell alluded to that anyway. And her being lucky with that blaster.
>>122810981>Is that legal sir?>I will make it legal
>>122807469Probably whoever the Jedi being wheeled out dead on that stretcher was.
>>122808099It’s because these movies are pathetically rushed out because the executives where greedy morons and JJ was a cunt who didn’t want cooperate with anyone but it turns out the story group was not only incompetent but just spiteful to the franchise and it’s fans. They downright hated then and KK truly wanted to ditch them for a new audience that never got big enough. All the movies became bloated rushed out disasters with no real thought put into any of them
>>122808371They also structured it so nothing can ever be fleshed out because it’s ends up happening over the course of a single year
>>122811890>I thought her interaction with Crosshair in the cell alluded to that anywayNo, it implied that she's aware of the inhibitor implants.>And her being lucky with that blaster.That's just the Jango in her kicking in.>>122811735Sorry, anon. She was born with a chromosome short and rightly classified her as defective. It's pretty obvious that she's nothing special. If she was then Lama Su would've been vexed about her escape. But he wasn't, because she's not valuable.
>>122810751Cody and Rex WILL have a MGS4 fight.
>>122810601Scorch is gonna hate that so much.
>Crosshair and his band of troopers fail to deal with Bad Batch>Tarkin comments on his failure and decides that Crosshair himself is not enough to deal with these enhanced clones>Calls in Delta Squad>Delta Squad are double agents working for Nala
>>122806773How did they retcon it? I haven’t read it.
>>122812237>Delta Squad are double agents working for NalaI don't think that'd fly. They're regs after all. They're all hopped up on Order 66.
>>122812237I want to believe. The remaster of the game had to be some kind of an attempt to reinject them into the fan consciousness
>>122812119Make it happen.
>>122812282>How did they retcon it?They added the Bad Batch. In the comics the Bad Batch had no part and were not present in the event of Bilaba's death when Order 66 hit.
>>122812290Yeah. But they’re Delta Squad.
>>122812290If kamino rebellion is in play they could remove that.
>>122812331>But they’re Delta Squad.Doesn't matter. Regs are regs.
>hunter has sharp senses>crosshair good with the rooty tooty >tech is big brain>wrecker has muscle>omega..... is a girlthey better come up with something better than just a girl clone, a hybrid of the other mutations or some shit
So was Kanan whitewashed?
How long will the fight go before he is punished Saw?
>>122812399He looks nothing like his comic counterpart, yeah.
>>122812342>If kamino rebellion is in playI don't think it is. Thanks to the implants the Clones are loyal to the Empire and to Sheev. They'll turn on the Kaminoans in an instant if given the order to just like they did to the Jedi. And we know full well that the Clones stayed in service for the next five years after this point. And I don't think the Kaminoans are going to cause a rebellion just because the Empire cut their commission and contract with the Republic.
>>122812379She's clearly somewhat precognitive/empathic. Probably force-sensative, but maybe they'll surprise us on that.
>>122812402>How long will the fight go before he is punished Saw?Somewhere between Rebels and Rogue One. It's already known he became Punished Saw because he spent too much time on Geonosis.
>>122806773>>122806903I don't know why the lighting doesn't change during the most pivotal scene for KananIt's weird seeing a dramatic Order 66 scene with no weather or mood setting going on in Bad Batch.
>>122812379>they better come up with something better than just a girl clone, a hybrid of the other mutations or some shitNope, that's it. She's just a girl clone, basically the daughter of Jango Fett. If she was something more she would've been treated accordingly as such. But she wasn't.
>>122812507Wasn't a very well directed scene imo. The dramatic music doesn't kick until after Caleb realizes what's going on so Depa is just fending off clones to ambient hums. And there's no snow or anything like you said, they're just out in broad daylight.
>>122812526Is this some sort of Disney astrotrufing to try and prevent people from guessing the "twist" the way they have all the other D+ shows? Because I can't imagine being so genre blind as to miss Omega being a special sort of clone.
It's so fucking bad.
>>122807100No way Darth Vader won't show up since they already have his Clone Wars design done.
>>122812304I think Disney is well aware of Delta Squad's popularity, we will just have to wait and see what they do.
>>122812379She knew about Crosshair and what was going to happen on Kamino, i think she is the same as Hunter but with people's intentions.
>>122812117>>122812526Why are you being so autistic about Omega? So what if she does have the force?
>>122812643If it was intention's she wouldn't have been able to tell Crosshair it "wasn't his fault" and that had no control over it. It has to be some kind of precognition.
>>122807100Shaak Ti still has no canon death, does she?
>>122812710She works with the Kamino medical unit, she probably knows about the chips and/or has the common knowledge about the conditioning.Even Tech was like "yeah, Crosshair probably got hit badly by the conditioning/programming" and we're not calling him psychic
>>122812710But wouldn't intentions means she's aware deep down he doesn't truly mean what he's doing?
So, why didn't they show the bitch getting gunned down? Why did they have to cut away from it? I thought Bad Batch is PG like The Clone Wars and the movies.
>>122812800"Death by Anakin" was canonized by Yoda's vision in the Dagobah cave.
>>122812663>So what if she does have the force?How would she? She was born before the war started so how would they have had any force sensitive material to use when the last force sensitive person on Kamino before Obi-wan found it was Dooku? If they were experimenting with his DNA then there would've been more of Omega than just her running around.>Why are you being so autistic about Omega?Why are you? You're assuming she's force sensitive when she's shown zero evidence to imply it.
>>122812901Well everyone has the force to a degree. She might be more in tune with it compared to your average clone. Not Jedi levels, but she might have a bit of a sixth sense.
>>122807777Crosshair getting dechipped or dying is 100% season finale material
>>122812308>>122812119they better be shirtless and atop a crashed star destroyer
>>122808806Maybe it's a case of diversion. The Empire builds fleets all the time, but seeing a concentrated amount of resources for a space station the rebels had experience with was a more important target.
>>122812379>omega..... is a girlThe Rule 34 will be her super weapon.Oh, and I bet she's Force-sensitive, which is how she helps round out the rest of the Batch, despite being a little girl.
>>122812444I doubt the Kaminoans would make clones without overrides to protect themselves. Whats the use of mind control if the subjects will be used against you?
>>122812800>New shows come out taking place between ROTS & ANH>They all allude to a different way Shaak Ti might have diedShe's going to become the DB Cooper of the SW universe
>>122813707weebs ruin everything
>>122812013Dunno why they'd keep the body around that long, or why it would still be clasping a lightsaber.
>>122812402It’s funny how this guy just ends up tired and broken by the end of it all. Like it’s an incredibly bleak story about how a lifetime rebel would end up. A hollow broken man whose spent hid entire life fighting
>>122813512True, but then again they didn't develop the inhibitor implants. Those were provided by Dooku who in turn probably delivered them by Sheev's command (I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Sheev created them with Sith magic or something). The Kaminoans might not know how to counter them unless they take a cue after Fives and have the chips removed. But even then that'd not be enough. By the time they could likely have removed enough on the down low it'd be so long down the line that the clones would be too old for combat. Both numbers and time are against them.
>>122812379>star wars confirms that girls are genetic aberrationswtf i love disney now
>>122813845There were also still alot of clones seen as younger or in their tanks. Kamino could still bide their time and rebel against the empire in 5-10 years.
>>122813758It could be a new character and they'll reveal later on that the Empire are experimenting on Jedi corpses to create force-sensitive clones or something. Whoever that Jedi was, they haven't been in TCW before.>Female>Lightsaber is new although somewhat resembles Mace Windu's>Purplish skin with olive green palmsI mean it could be that the Jedi's body was damaged explaining the discoloration but I'm not sure.
>>122813938Doubtful. With clone production ceasing I don't think Tarkin would've let that big of a loose end be a thing. I think he'd exhibit his due diligence and make sure all those fetuses were euthanized. Hell, I'd not put it past him to have any clone that isn't old enough for active duty to be euthanized too. No sense in paying for the birthing, raising, educating and training of soldiers who will never see active duty.
I hope the Bad Batch become actual characters and they don't stay caricatures over the course of the season
>>122814174Did they confirm clone production was ending? They left it kinda ambiguous. Bad Batch was meant to be a test, but a pretty poor one since they showed how dangerous it is to have troops you can't 100% control. I know Tarkin is biased, but there's still probably thousands ready to be used. The way the Kaminoans talked at the end implied they were going to wait and see if the Empire can be trusted.
>>122807803Actually the books go over comics. They referenced some of the new books in the second season of Mandalorian, for example Cobb Vanth and his backstory was from the books.
>>122814217>don't stay caricatures over the course of the seasonDo you feel this is what happened to the central characters of The Clone Wars and Rebels over the course of those series?
>>122814318But that's rare, stuff from comics is more likely to show up or get referenced in other media than stuff from the novels.
>>122814266>Did they confirm clone production was ending?We know that it was done by no later than five years after the Empire was founded because that's when all the clones were discharged from service and replaced with recruits and conscripts.>but there's still probably thousands ready to be used.Which they use in the interim until they have enough Stormtroopers trained and armed to replace them.
Wait Kanan was youngaer than ahsoka?
>>122814379by a couple years, yes
>>122814379Yes. Kanan was 14 when the Clone War ended. Ahsoka was 17.
>>122813093This. Having the tension of one of their own hunting them is going to drive season 1.
>>122807666God for how long are they gonna milk this shitty series with garbage animation? ROS came out 16 fucking years ago
That's some cool graphics.
>Tarkin doesn't want Clones>There's Clones that don't act like Clones>"I must get rid of them!"What
>>122814319TCW and Rebels(mostly) had actual characters right from the get go, they had flaws to overcome, and they had arcsI doubt Wrecker will ever overcome his annoying stupidity and inability to shut the fuck up, because he is not a character, he is an archetype of a dumb strongman comic relief character, kinda like Zeb from Rebels
>>122814519Tarkin doesn't want more clones because they're expensive and wants to rely on normal recruits.He wants to get rid of these particular clones because they don't follow orders, the last thing someone like him wants.
>>122814465>That's some cool graphics.Yeah. The render quality for this episode was stellar. I look forward to this level of quality for the entire run of the show.
>>122814519He's looking for excuses to be cheap
So im completely out of the loop - do clones age faster now or no?
>>122814600>do clones age faster now or no?They always did. They lay it out flatly in AoTC that the Kaminoans designed the clones to age twice as fast so that they'd be combat ready as soon as possible.
>>122814600how have you been out of the loop since 2002
>>122814562Zeb was underrated fuck you
>>122814562>kinda like Zeb from RebelsFunny you bring him up.I have a friend who began Rebels yesterday, and he said that he didn't like Zeb because he came off like a bully.You may disagree, but if that is his perception from the beginning, I have a very different one having observed what is revealed about him and seen his development as a character.I think Wrecker will always be the Lenny of the team, not unlike how you described him, but at the same time, I think you can still make him compelling even in his simplicity, if there is a desire to do so. Some of the most compelling Bizarro content I have ever read about him as a character took place when writers decided to give him the capacity to be more than big strong dumb guy who breaks things and doesn't recognize what he is doing. While Wrecker is simple, I still think he is mentally more capable than Bizarro, and if the decision is made to use him as the tool to pull on heartstrings, I think it's absolutely doable.
Post your SW waifu/husbando and let anons psychoanalyze you
>>122814465There was some good animation there, above the usual TCW quality. I noticed it on Kaller with the snow on the leaves when Hunter is tracking Caleb.
That was some bullshit.
>>122814562All clones are flat personality wise.
>>122814599>He's looking for excuses to be cheapLess so him and moreso Sheev. He probably ordered Takin to go there to make the assessment, as a formality, but Sheev's mind was already made up. The Clones were only ever meant for two things; to play a front as the gallant army of the Republic for the sham the concocted that was the Clone War, and to eliminate the Jedi when the time was right. The War is over and apart from the few survivors the Jedi are gone. The Clones served their purpose so the only thing left is to just set up preparations for their replacements. Because at the end of the day, a few enlistees and conscripts are enough to pacify a lynch mob or rabble-rousers causing trouble. Clones wouldn't be needed for that because a single, trained Jedi knight is much more dangerous than those things and with little to no Jedi around anymore the Clones have no reason to serve. They were always meant to be disposed.
>>122814738Droids have always been bullshit. As soon as you say them you think "Bilaba and Dume were losing to THESE guys?"
>>122814812Not him, but honestly most of them are. Most of them are just their gimmick + seemingly inherently being self sacrificial.
>>122814821I was talking about Wrecker moving THREE AATs.
>>122814885Then later when they're fighting Tarkin's droids, he can't lift one of them.
>>122814885Oh, right. Well he did have some assistance, and he did seem to be struggling some.
>>122814900the droids don't move with hover tech which provides a lot less resistance to pushing. all he had to do was move the one and the wires took the other two with it, because again, no resistance with hover tech
>>122814900>saw those in trailer>expected them to be dark troopers
>>122814947I know, I was just nitpicking like an asshole
>>122814900>he can't lift one of them.He lifts two. The over head throws one and suplexes another.
>>122814978They're definitely some kinda proto-Dark Trooper, but actual dark trooper's don't come until later
>>122814978fuck now i miss adventure time
>>122814978They're imperial Sentry droids or whatever. The same shits we see Ezra and Sabine take out when they do that mission with Saw.
>/swco/ for the next 4 monthshaha...ha...ha...ha...
How about the squad holding against early Inquisitorius?
>>122815075At least it's not Invincible
>tfw when TCW aired on CN longer longer than the actual event took placeI can never wrap my head around it just being 3 years
Felt so strange to be sincerely enjoying watching Star Wars content again.
>>122815240At least it has the excuse that time can get ambiguous in space and different planet measurements (Like the scene with Tech explaining how long they've been gone).Fucking MASH was on the air 11 years, but the Korean war only lasted 3.
>>122815171Seeing these guys in TCW art style would be cool. And Purge troopers.
>>122815366Yeah. 3 galactic standard years could be like 10 on some planets.
>>122815366>>122815413well yeah, but aren't galactic standard years the same as earth years anyway? point still stands
>>122815171there's no way they'd be ready in time. they'd probably have to go through months of mindbreaking and then training at least
>>122815240>I can never wrap my head around it just being 3 yearsI can. Even though the show lasted 5-7 seasons, the runtime of every episode total in the series is barely even a single-day. What we see is practically glimpses into the war as a whole.
>>122815470I don't think the other anon means right now or even in season 1. Depending on how long the show is meant to go, it's not at all implausible for them to show up in future seasons if one of them is set even a year into the Empire's reign. We know that the Inquisitorious was introduced to Vader and he retrained them pretty quick and early into the Empire's time. Like not long after the events of RoTS.
>>122815529I know, but it just *feels* like such a huge event oughta have been longer. Ahsoka ages so much, and Anakin's already far removed from his AotC self when the show starts.
>>122814732The episode had the best CGI out of all the SW cartoons, hope they will keep it up.
>>122815597I really hope this show doesn't bomb because it honestly might be the most expensive D+ show we've seen.
so when are we gonna see actual separatist remnants/insurgents? I wanna see some CIS holdouts
>>122812290Didn’t the Kaminoans tell the Clone Commandos they’re different from the other clones? They might not have chips.
>>122815694never, we kid escort now
>>122815872Maybe ARC Troopers at the start were unmodded. Hence they were later slaughtered when they destroyed the facility.
>>122815872>Didn’t the Kaminoans tell the Clone Commandos they’re different from the other clones?No. As far as I'm aware there hasn't been any shown interaction between Commandos and the Kaminoans. And as such there's no reason to think that the Commandos are any different from any other clones (barring the defective ones).
Holy shit that was 1hr 10 of kino. It might not be perfect but it was everything I hoped for from a Clone Wars sequel.
>>122816052True, but Echo wasn’t made to be an ARC trooper, he got promoted into one
>>122816064>Conception>In an effort to make "super soldiers," Kaminoan scientists who created the clone army changed the genetic template of some clone troopers, leading to the army's first commando unit.https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Clone_commandoThey are obviously different from the regs. Have you seen Gregor in action?I am still pissed we didn't see a single clone commando in this episode.
>>122815872>Didn’t the Kaminoans tell the Clone Commandos they’re different from the other clonesDifferent as in trained for specialized, squad based infiltration and missions, not as frontline grunts. They’re still regular clones.
>>122816026Let me guess - Omega will be force-sensitive clone.
>>122806726It's the Halo Reach Noble Team, the show
>>122815694Could Kalani show up?
>>122816144Not just that, they are also genetically superior and have implants.
>>122816179He’s not active during the post-war era and goes off the grid when right after Order 66, so he’s not likely to show.
>>122816135>They are obviously different from the regsThey never seemed so.>Have you seen Gregor in action?Yeah. His performance was no different than what I'd expect of any clone to be capable of.Regardless, I don't think they'd not have chipped them since that's not what what Dooku laid down for them to do. The Clones were intended first and foremost to exterminate the Jedi and the Kaminoans were seemingly aware of this. Clones not being subject to them, like the Bad Batch, were accidents.
>>122816153>Omega will be force-sensitive clone.Nah. She's just the one without a dick and balls.At least, for Echo's sake I hope she's the only one without.
>>122816157Ironically Noble Team was originally going to be escorting that girl they save in the 1st mission, as the resident "Covenant technology expert" and a tie-in to that Forerunner discovery stuff.
>>122812282Everything. The scenes and all. That page alone changed everything.
>>122816135>>122816250Oh that’s interesting. It seems that the Nu-canon is that the ARC Troopers are solely made up of veterans while the Clone Commandos are actually different genetically/physically before you’d have the original Alpha ARCs and the Commandos are both the “elite” variant of clones.
>>122816325Let’s be honest, a B1 probably burnt them off cause it thought it was funny. Don’t forget droids LOVE cruel and unusual punishment. It’s just a lot of the time they only get the chance to do it to other droids
Did Greg Weisman piss off someone at Disney or Lucasfilm? Because he just randomly left Star Wars Rebels after a single season and finishing writing the Kanan comic, then didn't have a fixed job until YJ. He never elaborated why he left either, and now we have the retcon of one of the comics.
>>122806726i love clone wars, but this bad batch feels complete unnecessary, we already have tons of stories taking place between both trilogies.i want something about old republic or far into the future
>>122816532We know why he left, it was because of Young Justice. But I sense that his autistic style clashed with the more loose production style in the writing room anyway.
>>122816427I always thought it made sense for Rex to be an Alpha ARC trooper, because he is already an ARC trooper at the start of the war, so he was exceptionally good right from the get go. And especially given the fact that Rex was originally supposed to be Alpha himself.
>>122816415Doesn't mean the rest didn't happen.
>>122816532My guess is that they contracted Weissman to set up the storyline of Rebels from beginning to end and then after it was done, decided to retcon the scene. Star Wars is a visual driven series, meaning that Films/TV canon will be prioritized heavily over Comics, Books, or Games.
>>122816427I think it’s a bit of both, original elite ARCs and veteran regulars who get promoted into the position
>>122816630>alpha-17>artoo>anakin>ahsokaWould it really be too much alliteration, George?
>>122816612>We know why he left, it was because of Young Justice.Not really. Production would've ended in early 2015 and YJ season 3 wasn't greenlit until late 2016. He just did a bunch of random writing gig s for TV and comics until then.
>>122816746>What are we, some kind of A-Team?>*winks*
>>122812379She will obviously become the medic. She was being raised by a Dr. Kaminoan.
>>122816630>because he is already an ARC trooper at the start of the warRex was never an ARC trooper. If he was, his number would've been ARC-7567, but it never changed from CT-7567 unlike, say, Fives who started as CT-5555, but when he was promoted his number changed to ARC-5555.Rex wore some kama and a command pauldron, but he was never an ARC trooper.
>>122807581I hope if she has force powers it's more like anakin when he is podracing.
>>122812800Can you imagine getting to wash her feet after she's been trekking in the Felucian jungles all day?
>>122817016well shitat least wook says he received ARC training
>they really used the same va for kanan as a child
>>122817227Star Wars fans are retarded, how else would they realize that Caleb is Kanan?
>>122817237>how else would they realize that Caleb is KananThey paid attention when it was brought up in Rebels?
>>122817264Why are you still replying to me, you mark
>>122817264>They paid attentionHA! Nice one.
>>122817278>stillThat was my first time replying to you, anon. I'm a different anon than who you had been replying to previously.
>>122817227Some male voice actors can actually give themselves a younger voice, but this wasn't the case here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohwY-qVkRr0(this is just a stupid skit whose main joke overstay its welcome, but you can hear del Rio still got it, even though he is older, now)
>>122806726So are they going to get the chip out of crosshairs head or is he probably going to die?
>>122817318of course it's gonna be some redemption arc
>>122815147sauce on bottom pic?
>>122817318My bet is that the girl has some way of empathically/telepathically communicating with other clones and can disable the influence of their chip.
>>122816532Didn’t he have a seizure?
>>122817399No.I only saved it in that format because of how it and variations of it led to the destruction of /swco/ years ago.
>>122817318I hope he stays alive long enough to be the first head or creator of Task Force 99.
You enjoying the show so far?
>>122817451Good set-ups, that's about it.
>>122817414But she didn't do that. If that were so then Crosshair wouldn't have still been anal about following orders when he was around her.
>>122817438whos the character then? Futa Asoka? I think I can track it down
>>122817451too early to tell
>>122817493Please don't ask that question anon. I don't want to be rude to you, but I also really don't want you you or anyone to seek out more of it.
>>122817493of course it's Ahsoka, can you not recognize the outfitfutafags get the rope
>>122817387redemption might not be the right word. More like rescuing.
The hell is Tarkin's problem with clones? Yeah, yeah, he briefly mentions costs, but he's gunning for them so hard at every opportunity it's hard to believe it's not personal.
>>122817451Well it's better than that awful resistance cartoon which isn't a high bar but whatever
>>122817451It’s decent so far, pretty as hell tho but like >>122817529 said it’s too early to tell.
>>122817529>[hand breaking intensifies]
>>122817591Apparently, he doesn't like being proven wrong.
>>122817558Based, I might be a bimbofication degenerate but at least I'm not a futafag or a NTRfag.
>>122817451good so far, hope it’ll be consistent with quality
>>122817607tell me what hardcase's personality was besides just his gimmick and sacrificing himself
>>122809647>99 versus Delta Squad
>>122817591I know, right? It threw me off as well. He never seemed to have any problem with clones in TCW, he had a problem with the Jedi, except Anakin, of course.
>>122817675>degenerateHonestly, m8, depends on the degree you take it.Taking a board, giving it curves and making it cock hungry can be very hot. The problems I can occasionally have depend entirely on the degrees of lip breast and ass inflation, because I see that taken too far more often than not, at least by my standards.
>>122817451Aside from the retconning of the Kanan comics, it’s good.
>>122815590It's a war, war changes people.
>>122814717Obscure waifus are best waifus.
>>122817725Hardcase was a proto-wrecker, but not annoying. He's in it for the fun, and he will disobey orders. He is a one-off side character with enough characterization to serve the purpose of the story. You expect him to be a full fledged character like a protagonist? But he isn't. That role goes to Rex, Fives and Echo.
>>122817943Yeah, I know he's not the deepest, that's why I said "most". He's got his one defining trait and that's basically all he gets, like most clones.
It was cool seeing Cal Kestis in animated form
>>122818158They really whitewashed Kanan. Also his lips are weird.
>>122818158it was this fag ackchyually
>>122809713Only people on Kamino was Shinies and Shock Troopers though?
>>122817790Oh, I'm definitely a degenerate. I like everything from what you mentioned to the more exaggerated fish-lipped, braindead type of bimbofications. I draw it, too.
The absolute madman is single handedly bringing back based canon tiers
>>122818380We saw shiny clone commandos on Kamino when Fives escaped.See on the left: >>122816135
>>122818440Yeah but then and now are two different times entirely, for all we know any commandos left were either out on a mission or simply being "evaluated"
>>122818252Yeah I thought Kanan was a space mexican
>>122818158>>122818252So he got a massive sunburn?
>>122818601Whatever he was he isn't that in BB.
where is this fag?I thought he was supposed to be on Onderon
>>122812847Visions are pretty meh sources. Hell, even canon stories aren't even safe now like caleb's order 66 story.
>>122818875We're going back to Onderon. The trailers show an elite squad trooper using a flamethrower in the jungle while a member of Saw's militia runs away.
>>122818875Hopefully dead. That fucker sucked in every episode he was in.
>>122815171So where was the Second Sister during that scene?Also hope to god they don't retcon the Charles Soule run of Vader, that comic was great.
>>122816532Maybe they didn't appreciate him detailing all the Rebels characters' sex lives.
>>122809647I disagree,I'll cry if they make them drones on the 66 vibe like the rest and they already nerfed Boss' voice to be the TCW one, which, tbf, makes sense since he temera voiced him. But I know they'd do it to the others next.
>>122819083detailing what now
>>122818981He was a bitch, but I loved seeing Ahsoka falling for him. Real shame they eternally cucked her out of any relationship after that.
>>122819036Not all the Inquisitors are present there. The Twi'lek guy, Palliduvan girl and the Second Sister show up several issues later after Vader kills Eeth Koth. Tenth Brother and Fourth Sister are missing too.
>>122819102Well no shit, they don't actually sound different. They sound different in Boss' head, didn't you know?
>>122818981Sorry he fucked your waifu
Call me cliche, but I like Crosshair as the edgy robot guy following orders, hope he survives the episode.
>>122819188Honestly I thought his relationship with Ahsoka was the worst part. He just was not interesting to watch in a romance and was a bad person too.
>>122819036When was this issue happening?
>>122807729I wish Order 66 was still an actual thing with the 150 orders that Palpatine snuck into the chips. Makes it even more tragic when it was in front of them the whole time.
>>122819205Ahsoka's not my waifu.
>>122814738I wish the CIS wasn't treated so badly in every piece of media they're in. They're one of the coolest/most unique factions and they always get used as comedy relief jobbers.
>>122807261Imagine making Battlefront 2 story canon
>>122819283Star Wars is in desperate need of some new factions. Any ideas?
>>122819226Well it wasn't necessarily about him, but rather about Ahsoka struggling with her feelings and figuring them out probably for the first time. That was fun to watch for me. He's not necessarily a bad person, but he was just an average character, nothing special.
>>122819204Are you citing a giant bomb article? Because that's not ingame. Heck, they're already genetically different from standard, why wouldn't Delta/RCs have alternative voices like CF99?
>>122819283CIS should have been bolstered by living troops like planetary defense forces that broke off from the republic.
>>122819390CF99 are all voiced by DBB, though. Deltas were voiced by 4 different people, despite being clones of Jango Fett. And regular clones in RC were voiced by another person altogether.
>>122812379>omega shows a combination of all the bad batches traits, with the exception of wrecker ...for now
>>122819442You mean, like in the best arc of TCW?
>>122819442I like to think that's the case in my own personal headcanon, but there are some instances of it being the case in the proper canon as well, like with Cassian Andor being a child soldier fighting on their side if I'm correct.
>>122806773So that was Kanan at the beginning?
>>122819515... Go on.
Put some of these guys in Bad Batch. >Fourth Sister is a KaleeshGimme.
>>122819561yes, same voice actor and everything.
>>122819579adult omega will be as big as wrecker
>>122819532If the droid fleet wasn't in orbit they could have added a layer of depth by making umbara a secondary war rather than one that involves the baseline seps. Technically, the Clone wars are multiple conflicts of separation from the republic and the government trying to reign them all in.
>>122819598seventh and second sisters for my dick
just watched it, breddy gud. the characters work well together.
>>122819610It felt odd he sounded way older than he looked
>>122819611i can get behind this idea
Five bucks says they meet up with Rex and Ahsoka in the next episode.
>>122819698Obvious, we saw that in the trailer although it will be Cut instead of Ahsoka considering they're in J-19
>>122819455Yeah, but I stand by not wanting them in BB for that very reason. temuera and the 3 others for Delta are just plain better than DBB (who does fine).>>122819658He sounded louder and older than his Rebels age too..it was very off.
>>122819698Ahsoka will probably show up near the end of the series and be the Luke Skywalker figure who shows up to save the day at the last minute. We'll get Rex soon though. But next week is Cut Lawquane on Saleucami definitely, Rex could be there too though.
>>122819771agreed and on a side note I think DBB does good for a not!Tem/younger Clone Trooper voice. iirc, Jango was in his forties by the time of the Clone Wars
>>122807123Its Baby Yeed around these parts, fella
So what are the odds of bringing back the Nelvaans?
>>122819771I could've bought the deeper voice if he looked like more of a teenager which he does in some of the comics but for Bad Batch his design looked too young for the voice he had, like he was borderline Jake Lloyd Anakin young.
>>122819879little to none, but I do want to see how Nu-canon Nelvaanians are
>>122819698maybe not in the next episode, but somewhere down the linein Ahsoka novel she dropped both of her sabers and they parted ways with Rex right there on different ships, whereas in S7 finale she only dropped her shoto saber, and they left together with Rex on a single shipshe has to lose her saber somehow, because she has none in the novel, unless they don't give a shit about novels and comic books anymore, as evident by Kanan retconor maybe she won't show up at all, who knowsBut I always thought it made sense for her and Rex to stick together for at least some time, instead of parting ways and not seeing each other for 16 years or whatever, that was retarded
>>122819828Rex is there for sure, BB don't know about Cut, they have no way of knowing, but they know RexRex is their contact, and he lives with Cut
bros i'm gonna be a fucking loser and say how glad I am that we're talking about star wars again there is literally no good place for it anymore.
>>122819939I like to think they kept in regular contact or did stick together until Rex settled down with Wolffe and Gregor. Maybe the potential Kamino Uprising will be like the unifying event that brings CF99, Rex and Ahsoka all together to try and save as many clones as they can and that's how Rex gets Wolffe and Gregor onboard or confronts Cody.
>>122820006>implying 4chan is a “good place”At least I guess we’re not tumblr
>>122820006hey, we should be glad disney doesnt completely fucks up everything star wars related. makes you hope for future movies being actually good
>>122820006In an interesting twist, /co/ has the more substantial disucssion this time whereas /tg/ has gone full "EVERYTHING EU GOOD".This wasn't the case with The Mandalorian where /co/ was really autistic about it while /tg/ actually talked about it.
>>122820006There are some decent forums that aren't just total negativity 24/7 but yeah I think on this site SW animation like Bad Batch, Rebels and Clone Wars has always brought the best discussions imo.
>>122820006missed the discussions too
>>122820169>EVERYTHING EU GOODFuck the Vong.
>>122808008tfw to intelligent for cartoons
>>122820111I feel like Kamino Uprising would be something Vader had to deal with personally, so Ahsoka and Rex can't be there
>>122820169/tg/ and /tv/ are always in full on complain mode these days when it comes to Star Wars. It's boring at this point.
Bring back the Echani!
>>122820243>/v/ working themselves into a frenzy over an out of context scene in Fallen Order for weeks.
>>122820230They could work around it by having Ahsoka and Vader constantly miss each other like Anakin was never allowed to meet Grievous in TCW. Would be cheesy but I wouldn't put it past them to do that. Or you could just have Inquisitors be sent to deal with it. Good place to introduce a Starkiller Inquisitor since that was considered for Rebels. Bad Batch could do him more justice with the darker tone.
>>122820172Honestly, which forums? It feels like /co/ is the only place to talk about Star Wars where it's not doomcock riding or people just posting pictures of their fucking toys posing cinematically.
>>122820350and that kiwi accent makes her sound genuinely autistic/retarded
Wonder why they retconned Kanan's Order 66 experience.
>>122820463because they could and they had already paid someone to draw concept art, make 3d models, rig, and animate the kid for the cameo
>>122820463Filoni is George's padawan so he probably follows the same g-canon mindset.
>>122820463Literally just to insert a Rebels tie-in
>>122820383I don't think they can do that, because Ahsoka and Vader would feel each other in the Forceand they can't send inquisitors, because Ahsoka met an Inquisitor for the first time in the novel
>>122820394Jedi Council Forums, Cantina, Rebelscum etc. It's not 4chan but if you want to have a sincere discussion those are your best bets. 4chan will always be the ideal format for me though because I like the speed at which you can have discussions and there's no red tape, a double edged sword but I'll take it.
>>122820463It's more in service to Hunter's character than it is to Kanan's. Letting him go has repercussions throughout the whole episode and sparks the conflict between Hunter and Crosshair. They wrote whole premiere around it.
>>122819611Well she was meant to be cloned as a guy so.
>>122820528The latter thing doesn't mean much when they've already retconned stuff from the Ahsoka novel and now they've done it for a fairly well known comic. A small detail like Ahsoka having never dealt with an Inquisitor before can be walked back. Or you sidestep it by having Starkiller be Vader's secret apprentice/secret inquisitor that Palpatine isn't meant to know about, so he doesn't refer to himself as one.
>>122820271/v/ discussion actually isn't the worst if you just talk to them about prequel content
>>122820383having starkiller be a grown man so soon after episode 3 feels weird
>>122820697then just make it some other jedi
>>122814717Okaayy, so, we got a lotta responses now... so who's gonna do the analysis?
>>122820006>there is literally no good place for it anymore>posted in 4chanYou're right I guess
>>122820697didn't have to be Kanan, thoughcould have been Luminara on Kashyyyk, and Hunter would have insisted on her capture, instead of execution, since we know she was executed later, and Kashyyyk was fucking neat, and CF99 were already the protagonists of that arc, just move it ahead in the timeline a little bit to fit in
>>122820831They wanted it to be a kid for extra sympathy points so that's probably why they didn't just begin the episode on Kashyyyk. Kanan is a kid and they probably thought it was a perfect opportunity for some synergy between TCW and Rebels.Luminara would've made sense to me though because she was captured alive somehow despite regular clones just shooting Jedi on sight. So if it was the Bad Batch that neutralized her and prevented her execution it would've made her survival more believable.
>>122820986Same wavelength anon >>122820999
>>122820986Or it could have been Katooni or one of Younglinga from the lightsaber arc instead, they were already characters established in Clone Wars and there would be no need to contradict the comic
>>122821052yeah, about those fucking younglings, we had an entire arc with them, just use them, we know those characters and are somewhat emotionally invested in thembut I guess muh interconnected universe, muh rebels, and perhaps newfags who have never seen TCW before
Did the Kanan comic tie in to everything? The reason I'm so worried about retcons is because so much of Disney's stuff is interconnected, that retconning the wrong thing might cause the whole tower to collapse.>>122821130>and perhaps newfags who have never seen TCW beforewouldn't have made a difference since they wouldn't know kanan either then.
>>122817492I didn't say that she did. It'll be an ability she develops.
>>122821052>>122821130The youngling arc was actually a premiere/pilot for a scrapped Clone Wars spinoff series so it ended up airing as part of the show instead. Funny how Bad Batch ended up getting the spinoff instead. Maybe we'll see these guys in the show though, it'd be a waste not to use them I think.
>>122821179>wouldn't have made a difference since they wouldn't know kanan either then.perhaps they count more on Rebels fanbase now, I don't knowthey didn't include lots of TCW stuff in rebels to "not make it a TCW sequel" as Filoni and Hidalgo said, they cut Maul's visions of Savage and Satine in the desert, and a lot of other stuff to not confuse the new viewersyet they put Kanan in TCW S7 and in what's supposed to be a direct TCW sequel, instead of actual TCW charactersretarded logic
>>122821237Sabine's mom is also in Siege of Mandalore as Bo Katan's right hand woman.
>>122821218remember, even the Force priestess took the form of that youngling girl, like come on, use them for Order 66, that would have been heartbreaking
>>122818158the only thing I didn't like was that his VA didn't bother changing the voice much so it just sounded like adult kanan on a kid's body lol
>>122818439Yeah, but then he's breaking them down and retrofitting them to work with and prop up his lame bullshit. Filoni is a Monkey's Paw in human form.
>>122819598It'll never happen but I'd like to see this fit in there somewhere. I'm just desperate to bring this character back.
>>122807261If we dont get the destruction of naboo at least we can get this
>>122821302This is why I think Bo-Katan will return for Bad Batch. Going to the effort of making an Ursa Wren model seems like a big thing.
>>122808255lmao can't unsee
>>122821237>they cut Maul's visions of Savage and Satine in the desertWhy Satine? Shouldn't it have been Talzin instead?
>>122821319I'd prefer if they survived desu. Hondo can help keep them hidden. But he named his ship the Katooni so I don't have high hopes they made it out of the purge alive.
>>122821448probably because he was hunting down Kenobi in that desert, and killing Satine was a big deal in his revenge keikaku
>>122821399Starkiller to me has always been a perfect Obi Wan spin-off villain. Or maybe a villain for Ashoka.I understand he's destined to flip into a Jedi, but I just like his gimmick that's he's not really a monk like most other Sith, his role is defined and simple. So he can be outsmarted but probably can 1v1 anyone.
>>122821448>>122821481He seemed weirdly obsessed with Satine. He kept a painting of her in his lair on Dathomir next to the Darksaber.
>>122819598the inquisitors were a mistaken
if they are gonna put Ahsoka in it, at least give her the original Underworld outfit, you fucking cowardsshe's wearing it in the novel
>>122819641>Second sister A man of taste
>>122821492>The Inquisitor Maul killed was StarkillerWould be amusing to see Sam Witwer talking to himself.
>you will never find out what happened to her
Anyone remember Tyzen Xebec? Bolla Ropal's padawan? Shame they never acknowledge him in Clone Wars. Would've worked in Bad Batch instead of Kanan as well.
>>122821592She's just sitting in her jail cell throughout the entire saga
>>122821592is there anything that could make tcw anakin's face look more like hayden's?
>>122821646looks like Hayden to meof course it's somewhat stylized, it's not meant to be photorealisticbut all the main "areas" of the face are correct
>>122821646He always looked more like an adult Jake Lloyd to me in TCW. The 2D Clone Wars Anakin looks and sounds more like Hayden.
>>122814717Both of these
>>122821640is that from those TCW web comics from 2010?those had some wild shit in them, and especially those comic books in SW UK Titan Magazine
>>122819360Flesh out the criminal organizations even deeper, especially their resurgence post-republic. Their fleets and armies. Black SunHutt Cartels
>>122821707can i get a source?
fwiw I liked it.I'm glad omega wasn't as cringe as I initially assume'd she'd be
>>122821696I dunno... sure, everything is technically there, but he just doesn't capture his visage right like Windu or Padme.
>>122821492How I'd bring him back would actually be in the Jedi Fallen Order series, but make Starkiller the protagonist. He starts out as an Inquisitor, he encounters Cal and Cere and kills Cere in the beginning, where you play as Cal in the tutorial section of the game. Then switch over to Starkiller, and play the game as him hunting down Cal and other Jedi like in Force Unleashed. He is an Inquisitor, but he is also still Vader's Apprentice. Being an Inquisitor is how Vader is able to maintain teaching him without alerting Sheev, "or so we think", betrayal, turn to the light all that. We can get Starkiller back, as well as Juno and Kota, maybe bring in some other Jedi characters who are floating around but unknown and all that.It's sloppy, cheesy and kind meh, but still better than 90% of Star Wars stuff nowadays.
>>122821774Yeah, she wasn't as bad as I was expecting, but we got 15 episodes left. A lot can change between then and now.
>>122821743Yeah they were the webcomics that ran alongside the cartoon. The first seasons ones were more like standalone prequels to each episode but with season 2 they created a unique spinoff storyline based on the idea that Bolla Ropal had a padawan which was a lot better. The UK comics were neat too. The graphic novels are also overlooked.
>>122821774She's pretty inoffensive so far, it's Wrecker who takes up the usual annoying kid trope.
>>122821793I think he does.
>>122821800Fallen Order is Cal's story, people would be weirded out if we played as a guy from a previous series. He could work as an antagonist that gets redeemed though.
>>122821772I think it was this guyhttps://twitter.com/NCoreSFM/status/1319057170143510528
>>122821760I think we'll see more Black Sun because Ord Mantell is confirmed. Crimson Dawn too maybe because they put Dryden Vos in Siege of Mandalore and it's an excuse to follow up on Maul and his underworld dealings.
>>122821855looks more like human shrek to me
>>122821832Those Titan Magazine UK 6 pages comics had a lot of shit, but there were a couple of gems there.
>>122821541Once you get to the part where she scrambles your comms just to bully you there's no turning back
>>122821895They should be at least more than just fodder for jedi.
>>122821865>Fallen Order is Cal's storyYeah and that game is over. Fallen Order is like the subtitle of the series which is the Jedi part of the title. So this game would be Jedi: Fallen Apprentice or something. That name is shit and not what I'd use, but you get the point. Make the series about different people each game instead of the same person over and over again.
>>122821905I like them for their weird stories. There was one where the Jedi have to protect a fashion even on Coruscant, bizarre.
>>122821940God I wish she caught Cal and destroyed his asshole back in that Imperial torture chamber
>>122821646Hayden has those kind of tired, droopy eyes. Animated Anakin has very sharp, hardened eyes.
>>122821976Would've been a perfect ending.
>>122821976A shame he couldn't get to mating press her back to the light side
>>122808099First Order was garbage from the word go and everything since then has been a desperate attempt to try and fix the fuckups of the previous additions.If they wanted to do something interesting they should have made the FO a group people might actually WANT to fucking be a part of. You've already got a perfect setup - the Rebellion wins and Mon Mothma's first retarded act as Chancellor is to declare everyone who so much as mopped floors for the Empire is a war criminal who has to either submit to summary judgement or GTFO. You've got billions of rightfully disgruntled refugees who have every reason to hate the New Republic and want to band together, and could easily be manipulated into becoming dangerous and fanatical by people like Snoke and Hux.Instead the FO consists exclusively of brainwashed-from-birth fanatically devoted soldiers, funded by mustache twirling arms dealers, run by incompetent backstabbing asshole, and working for a cartoonishly evil lord of darkness.
>>122819188Yeah I liked seeing her get cucked by Saws sister
will we make a new thread soon or just come back on friday
Did she hear their footsteps outside the door before us or detect them with the Force?
>>122822222You could write a book on how fucking terrible the First Order was as a concept, how it was written, how it was executed, and the legacy it left. It's the disease infested elephant in the room that needed books to fix the abysmal mess it made.
>>122822415I don't know, but I have a feeling the next thread would not survive anyway
>>122822440>or detect them with the Force?I mean she does seem to have Sheev's hair so.....
>>122822477yeah alright, friday then.
>>122822490now hear me out: genderbent sheev -20 years would be incredibly hot
>>122822531>-20 yearsSo like 50?
>>122822598alright fine, 30 years. so around 35 in RotS
>>122822222Quints don't lie.
New thread: >>122822717
>>122820831Then you'd bitch about the increasing number of Order 66 survivors and how it lessens the impact of the whole thing
>>122822222based and quints of truth
>>122822222>we could have gotten a plot where FO starts off as a well-meaning group looking out for the abandoned former Imps>Finn's loyalty could have been genuine - maybe his world was saved by the FO, maybe his parents were part of the refugees cast out by the NR, but the point is he truly believes in the FO as a positive force>so much so that he doesn't even realize it's going down a dark path with people like Hux at the helm>and then one day they capture this Resistance pilot named Poe>who tells him all these stories about FO cells wasting villages and killing innocents>and it shakes Finn's convictions and he decides to free him and learn the truth>and it's not just some spur of the moment suddenlyFinnisaRebelnow shit>it's the most difficult thing he's ever done>and maybe Phasma isn't just some nameless, faceless baddie>maybe she's his friend>someone he grew up with>trained with>and there she is, standing between him and the exit>trying to convince him not to do it>and he has to shoot or stun her to get away>and so now you've got one FO who's just betrayed everything he believes in and is having to fight his own people because even though he knows they're mostly good people like him, they're being led to do terrible things>and another who cares about Finn, but feels so deeply and personally betrayed she swears revenge>and now what was a completely pointless, worthless set of sequels with boring characters and only the vaguest of plots suddenly has drama>and stakes>and interesting character dynamicsFUCK WHY COULDN'T WE HAVE GOTTEN A SINGLE COMPETENT WRITER ON THESE FILMS!?
>>122823648>we could have gotten a plot where FO starts off as a well-meaning group looking out for the abandoned former ImpsSo the Fel Empire from the EU?