Is "The Irwin" the single most abused character design cliche in cartoons?
>>122170045This kind of character really started with Eurkle
>>122170045You mean Urkel?
>>122170045He is basically a black boy version of quirky girl Mable.
>>122170045That dinosaur isn’t black
>>122170092Urkel was a Chad
I don't know about the others, but Mo/the dinosaur totally diserves being abused
>>122170045This is the definitive 'we want to add a black character but have never interacted with a black person before' archetypeThe type of character they can put in and not have to worry about being called racist. You want to see black cartoon characters done right go watch the proud family or the boondocks.Nervous PC whiteys cant make a good black guy to save their lives
>>122170080Fun fact: If it went all according to Hirsch, Dipper would've been the quirky one and Mabel the serious one as he based their relationship on himself and his sister. Disney wanted their personalities switched.Also once Mabel became popular, they made a cookie cutter out of her and inserted her in every Disney cartoon thereon. Webby and Luz come in mind (albeit Luz used to be way more serious in the Beta drafts, but then again, Disney happened)
>>122170092I remember way back in school the middle-class black kids watched Family Matters, and the less well off black kids watched Fresh Prince. Never understood the distinction.
>>122170396I'm sure it was the same with people who watched full house and people who watched married with children
>>122170092My god this video is amazing. Why can't tv be tthis groovy now?
>>122170045Holy shit the first 3 are the same character copy-pasted
>>122170045Irwin was different since he had actual character traits
>>122170421I don't know a single person who watched Full House.
>/pol/ doesn't know Urkle was a fucking chad, only looked nerdy and had an easy time getting girls and the joke was that he always failed at getting the one he wantedpersonally I prefer cool AF Gerald.
>>122170045"generic token black kid from the 90s" would like to have a word
>>122170765Can we have a moment of silence for token physical impairment kid
>>122170045I actually like remy and irwin, i fucking hate clyde though
>>122170821Whatever happened to the wheelchair kid trope?
>>122170045The only person more hated than a black man is a black nerd.
>>122170092This man will always be Sonic the Hedgehog to me
>>122170992White people love black nerds though.
>>122170045It's been a thing for years, it's supposed to portray the character as inoffensively as possible I assume
>>122171017Just like how black women love white nerds
>>122170969>Whatever happened to the wheelchair kid trope?They never installed a wheelchair ramp for the trope.
>>122170045But Irwin was a fucking dumbass who despite having mommy + werewolf genes still managed to be a complete retard and get fucked up every time at the end of nearly every episode he appeared inTho he did manage to kiss his waifu, something that is almost alien to most people from this board
>>122170848this. i specifically hate him because he's black and has two dads
>>122170092Is this the Bartman Parody come from?
>>122171039Penfold doesn't come off as a nerdy black character. In his case it's probably just coincidence.
>>122171093>t. self-hating gay black manInternalized racism and homophobia much?
>>122171017They laugh at black nerds, not with them.
>>122171069>mommy + werewolf genes>mommy
>>122170627Black best friends can't be cool anymore; that's offensive. They have to be smart dorks now.
>>122170092ya get outta there
>>122170045rise is the most recent one?
>>122171172Anon I... Penfold's always been nerdy, they even emphasised it in the show's revival by making him le epic gamer. Fair enough if you mean racially though, he's not a human so it's sort of ambiguous
>>122170070>>122170073>>122170092It's not an "Irwin" parodyhttps://youtu.be/4eEVZZ7gAyQ
>>122170045>>122170627>>122170765>>122171039>>122171305>Is "Token Black" the single most abused character design cliche in cartoons?
>>122170045Is the dinosaur supposed to be black-coded?
>>122170456> Why can't tv be tthis groovy now?because groovy is out, gotta wait for the disco nostalgia decade
>>122170821>>122170969Yeah, what's up with that? With people now all worried about diversity and representation and all that gay shit you would think that there would be more of them on media, but they're pretty much extinct.
>>122170045See they have to make the black kid the smart nd or street wise one because....
>>122171885All playing makebeleive with them on /tg/
>>122170045You know, Irwin has the look but he acts black, unlike what this meme is poking fun at, the sanitized deblacked safe black character. Irwin was a nerd but he was also a little gangster hoodrat
>>122172003Where the hell did all those wheelchair adventurers threads came from anyway?Did Paizo put wheelchairs as equipment in some sourcebook or something?
>>122170969Eventually these really forced “all must be included” rainbow casts fell out of favor, and it was the only reason disabled kids were written into shows
>>122171039He's isn't black, he's Welsh.
>>122172248Wheelchair adventurers were added to D&D a while back
>>122170848Irwin is fucking garbage and another piece of shit that only tries and fails to hit on Mandy.
>>122171176I hate how leftists pretend that everyone who hates gays are actually gay themselves. The only fag here is (you)
>>122170070This.OP is a stupid zoomer confirmed.
>>122172248>Did Paizo put wheelchairs as equipment in some sourcebook or something?Some random 5e homebrew got concecrated into a WOTC supplement. Paizo so far hasn't introduced one AFAIK.
>>122172389Yeah but they shit on irwin constantly so his suffering is funny
>>122170331I will never get people fawning over the boondocks characters as good.
>>122170489Really? That was one of the biggest shows?
>>122170331I've met tons of black dudes who were into all kinds of nerdy shit. Wtf are you talking about?
>>122170969It was just too hard to write around. The writers would constantly be like "wait, how does the wheelchair kid get to this scene if the other kids climbed a ladder?" There were just too many creative sacrifices they had to make.
>>122172745I didnt say there werent black nerds and I never claimed to speak for all the blacksJust saying this is the go-to 'black character by non-blacks' archetype. I love irwin, cant say shit about the others in the OP but irwin is based.
How does Irwin take Mandy marrying Billy? He apparently has kids off his own, so I guess he finds someone eventually.
>>122172248Some fucking retarded online show thing pushed them into D&D and pretty much everyone who isn’t an indoctrinated faggot have been non-stop mocking it since.
>>122170045>>122170765You guys are just talking about a normal hairstyle that looks good on black people and going "Look at this stereotype!"
>>122170969Aside from what the other guy said about impairing the story, people also cared less about pushing for disabled in cartoons as the rest of society became more conscious of them. A big part of why studio teams loved including them was because they wanted to push people into supporting disability access systems, but now that that's all standard, it's on to the next Change The World thing. Currently homosexuality (or I guess we're past that now), next is trans, and I'm guessing after that it's the not-so-cutesy mental disorders that people are still dicks about.
>>122173147It was never about helping. They never gave two shits about the disabled back in the 90s.
>>122170045Isn't Irwin just a black Milhouse?
>>122170045Irwin won and he deserved her
>>122172900He was supposed to have a different love interest in the Underfist series
>>122172843 It's just an urkel parody man; he was immensely popular, to the point that the show ended up basically being about him, despite starting as a side character.
>>122173147>but now that that's all standardFucking where? Most places in Burgershart still have shit wheelchair access, etc.
>>122170045>OP is such a head dropped zoomer he doesn't know who Urkel is
>>122170045>Cartoon where nearly every character is a different color>Still uses the "nerdy black friend trope"It's so weird it's funny.Writers need to stop being pussies and give these characters different personalities if they really want diversity. I can't think of any black cartoon character that's the "funny one". Although I guess white leftists on twitter would say shit like "Why does the BLACK kid have to be funny hmm???" Shit sucks man.
I agree, cartoons don't need any black characters at all
>>122170969people have robot legs now, dumbass
>>122174719This planet doesn't need you, but you're here anyway.
>>122170359>If it went all according to Hirsch, Dipper would've been the quirky one and Mabel the serious one as he based their relationship on himself and his sister.So this?:https://www.deviantart.com/thefreshknight/art/Gravity-Rises-539637462
>>122174064He doesn't, sis.
>>122174558They're frightened of offending black people by daring to use stereotypes (unless the creator of the show is black, then it is allowed and even celebrated to appeal to the worst stereotypes of black people). There ARE black people in real life just like in the Boondocks, Proud Family or Boyz in the Hood. And there are black people just like Irwin and Urkel. It's just that these pussy ass creators are scared of showing all kinds of black people and rather just showed the "approved" stereotypes.
>>122172271You'd think they'd be popular now with how Netflix automatically replaces redheads with black girls and mandates the third person in the cast list be gay.
I don't mind The Irwin or Urkel types because I know black people who are legit like those two and the only people who want "AIGHT WYATT BOI, TIME TO OPEN UP YO MAWMAS POOSAAAYYY FOR THE BEE BEE SEA" are insecure wiggers. Not to say those are the binary but with black characters you only got>Street Kid who likes playing basketball>Irwin/Urkel who have the highest credit score>AIIIGHT WYATT BOI>The whitest black guy you know who you can hear their credit score through how they talk> Self-hating I mean I know it's a cartoon so I'm not asking for much but yeah, "The Irwin" still has its place
>>122174558I'm more confused that nerdy black friend is in the same series as purple Asian. How the hell would I have known
>>122170045Finn is not a nerd, so Finn is a rival for the title of abuse. Cause his writers hated him a lot. But what classification does Finn get, or does he require a new classification? He's an MC chad hero kind of a character, but he gets absolutely shut down.
>>122170969died out, just like the kids in the wheelchairs
>>122170969"physically disabled" kids aren't considered important anymore unless they're also lgbt
>>122176259>Fags are disabled nowmakes sense
>>122170045I really hate how 90% of the black or nerd characters in the loud house universe are literally clideYou have him,the girl clide who is one of lori's friend,the one from lori's school who helps the principal and the redhead from los casagrandes who is the same shit but as a universal punchbagLike dude fuck off
>>122172003Why would someone attach twenty pounds of deadweight to an uncomfortable stump? Why not attach it to the wheelchair itself?If you still have one leg why not wear a prosthetic and use a cane?
>>122170092I don't think they ever aired this in the UK. Same with Drake and Josh and Fat Albert, so I was only aware of them via references by other stuff.
>>122170969It never got off the ground
>>122170045Don't forget Tucker from Danny Phantom
>>122170253He was also a bit of a simp with oneits. He leaves the qt that wanted his dick for the bitch that constantly treated him like shit and was dumb enough to marry her.
>>122174606they made a madea cartoon? doesn't that take away the only funny thing about it, that a live action man is playing a live action woman, and camera fuckery can put him in the scene normally at the same time?
>>122176779Well it didn't help that the girl who liked him was painfully annoying even beyond him (which seemed to be the point) and was dangerously autistic. I've seen this series a lot over the past year and I always mute during her episode where it's focusing on her in her bedroom with the hidden cameras and the urkle wallpaper.
>>122170627>tfw Urkel actually had a top tier GF before Laura even started to get feelings for him>He still wanted to get with Laura anywayDoes that make him a mega chad or what?
>Not posting the original Irwin, Steve Urkel
>they don't know how hardcore Urkel ishttps://youtu.be/7YILJCmueWo
>>122173002This hair was never good.
>>122170359This is hardly a bad call given how oversaturated dumb guy + smart girl pairs were
>>122170969I legit think that disable got replace by gay people.
>>122175937If you actually watched Big City Sneeds.
>>122172838then you could always make them blind or mute or deaf.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST GIVE GLASSES TO BLACK PEOPLE>NEGROES HAVE TO BE HIP AND COOL LIKE OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>122171017Not white women
>>122181201sonic one is a cute picture
>>122172003I spent a good five minutes laughing at this fucking looney tunes looking ass mother fucker holy shit
>>122174271irl Urkel is pretty coolhe beats his gf and doesnt afraid of anything
>>122174558Cyborg? I mean he wasn't the sole funny guy, but it was usually him and BB
>>122171885They're scared about being called out for tokenism and other shit like that now
>>122175533Case in point, look at marvel and how they make every black character a soulful saint now. I especially hate how they cucked my boy Luke Cage, his anger was one of his interesting point
>>122179352Flat tops are cool, i like them way better than dreads or whatever the fuck the current youths are doing now
>>122184572need it or keep it?
>>122171678He's supposed to be a dinosaur.
>>122170765Gotta give it to them though 2 of those “designs” had distinct characters at least.
>>122176336>Fags are disabled now>now
I’m in a ducking wheelchair bro I’m paraplegic