What went wrong ?
When they decided who they want to win and then work backwards cherrypicking their evidence.
>>122112419Garra's speed comes from his reactions, not attacking. He has no way of putting Toph down.
>>122112484YES, this is why death battle is always bullshit because most of the time you can tell who favors who when it comes to talking about thier powers "Uhh if we fucking think about it, this ability can do 'thing that charater has never done before' and therefore can beat this characters ass hurdur!"
>>122112419I don't understand how you can see the shit Gaara pulls in the sasuke retrival arc and think Toph wins
>>122112500yes it is he can catch Deidara flying around at the start of p2 who is approximately 9000000000x more agile than Toph. Toph would be caught and crushed by sand in approximately 1 second
>>122113141>"Uhh if we fucking think about it, this ability can do 'thing that charater has never done before' and therefore can beat this characters ass hurdur!"Toph fags on twitter talking about how she's totes a bloodbender be like
>>122113499>Be Ben>that's all it takes, reallyThis applies to Sasuke as well.
>>122112419who won this one? if it was toph then lol.also why does black twitter in particular love these dumb thought experiments so much?
The entire death battle series is stupid conceptually
>>122112484This man was really really based.>>122113141The only truly good thing that comes from DeathBattle are the butthurted people, like the benfags or the dbspics.
Toph is almost blind on sand, how the fuck did they expect her to beat Garra? Did they take away his tailed beast?
>>122114200used some commentary blurbs about how she can see "earth" in the air or something. The match was really given to Toph due to fan donation of her sprites and it was during the time where there was hardly much research and there were obviously wrong results all the time. They've already said they'd have to redo those matches if they went back to em
>>122113812It was indeed Toph.Which was stupid but what can ya do? It's not like they'll ever redo it.
basically this feat alone BTFOs the entire AvatarverseStopping Madara midair with specs of sand, is Toph supposed to be stronger than Madara too?
Reminder that Doom rapes Superman
>>122114417That needed a reminder?
>>122114417>b-but my orange juice
>>122114252>she can see "earth" in the air or somethinghilarious
>>122112419Didn't Ben admit that they fucked this one up in one of his blogs?
>>122113695>>122114684Ben is a fucking retired as well as the rest of the Deathbattle gang, fuck those guys>>122113673WTF, she's not fucking magneto in that one Xmen scene, fucking retarded
>>122114849>Ben is fucking retiredBut he still makes the show does he not?
>>122112419Toph doesn't beat Gaara. This is just Krillin vs Batman again
>>122114380The Madara fight wasn't a thing when the DB first aired, so unless they're time travels I don't know how you'd expect them to use it in the analysis
>>122114684Probably.Just like how They've said Link vs Cloud would have to be completely re-done with the new ruleset because of how they made Frankenlink.Or how they said at one point that during Goku vs Superman 2 they accidently low balled Superman and miscalculated some of Goku's feats.Early Death Battle was not nearly as well researched as it is now, because early research was just Ben and Chad arguing with each other until one of them ran out of points to make.But for some reason people get really hung up on those early episodes no matter how many times the DB cast has said they would need to re-do all of those fights if they were to bring any of them back
>>122115215They should just do a joke ep and lightning round some of those with like ten second animations each in a collab or something
>>122115298They poked fun at the outcomes in Mask vs Deadpool, when Deadpool used the continuity gem by showing the outcomes for Link vs Cloud, Rouge vs Wonder Woman, Goku vs Superman, and Yang vs Tifa changing.Toph vs Gara was there too, but it didn't change before the scene switched back to Mask
>>122115100Actually they did acknowledge it
Still better then Dig-Dug vs Bomberman
>>122112419I am pretty sure toph can't even defeat chunnins exams gaara. Gaara eos would be considered a God in the avatar verse.
>>122115438>The fourth Shinobi war arc is 11 years old
>>122112461So every episode?
>>122115427Ben has to be an OBDtard to hate Naruto this much.
>>122112419Pretty sure it should go like this:>Gaara uses his sand to try to sneak up on Toph>she notices and tries to bend his sand to crush him>he uses substitution to escape and get close to her>breaks her neck
>>122115754>Hate naruto this much>The scene is literally about fights that people didn't like having their outcome swapped
>>122115801Gaara could just poke her feet or remove the entire floor.
>>122115801Gaara sand is faster than the raikage. His attacks are way faster than toph reaction time
>>122112461Contrarian winners get more views.
Anibabies need to cope more
>>122115491Who asked for dig up vs bomberman anyway?
Post fights you want to see>Giorno vs Joker>Hellboy vs Devilman>Billy Butcher vs Stain>Postal Dude vs Not Important>Gorr vs Goku Black>Master Xehanort vs. Darth Sidious>RoboCop vs Judge Dredd>Cole MacGrath VS Alex Mercer>Sōsuke Aizen vs. Madara Uchiha>Adam Jensen vs Motoko Kusanagi>Star Butterfly vs Steven Universe>Noel Vermillion vs Aigis>Ruby Rose VS Maka Albarn>Izuku Midoriya vs Gon Freecss>Hiccup and Toothless vs Hiro and Baymax>Atrocitus vs Red Hulk>Little Mac vs Ippo>Han Solo vs Captain Kirk>Raiden VS 2B>Magneto vs Accelerator>Kazuma Kiryu vs Kingpin>Samurai Jack vs Guts>Gordon Freeman vs Isaac Clarke>Takuto Maruki VS Enrico Pucci>Pyro vs Mei>Demoman vs Junkrat>Popeye vs Saitama>Tohru Adachi vs Yoshikage Kira>Senator Armstrong vs Funny Valentine>Kraven vs Predator>Silver Surfer vs Captain Atom>Megatron vs Frieza>Doom Slayer vs Samus>Ash Williams vs Buffy>Marshal Law vs Garou>Rick Sanchez vs Xavier, Renegade Angel>Kyle Rayner vs Simon the Digger>Anti Monitor vs Anti Spiral>Lord Drakkon vs. Oma Zi-O>Jonathan Joestar vs Tanjiro>John Constantine vs Raidou Kuzunoha>El Santo vs The Undertaker>Dr Doom vs Gilgamesh
>>122116273Isn't simon high complex multiversal or whatever that means?
>>122116091except you knowZuko is FTLand Toph scales to Zukoso Toph is even more FTL
>>122116392Zuko lost to Todoroki.Gai won against Might Gai (he didn't fucking need the eight gates to win, according to Ben himself, that was just for show)Gaara who can fight with Madara, somehow loses to TophMakes sense to me...
>>122113866It's very intelligent conceptually
>>122116560shit, i mean "All Might".Similar name.
>>122115215current death battle still isn't well researched. They heavily overrely on power scaling characters with retard shit like "X character once punched y character who can move a gorillion times the speed of light, so x character must be just as fast"
>>122112419Narutards downplayed Avatar too hard and didn't realize how strong it really is
>>122115801Gaara would win but substitution wont work on toph, she can feel heartbeats and shit
>>122112419I'm surprised the only other Naruto character that has a win other than Naruto is fucking Might Guy
>>122116790Might Guy is cool
So, Geese Vs Heihachi, who wins?
>>122116934Heihachi. They'll use Akuma and giving him raging demon durability or some shit
>>122116934I remember that there were some crazy feats from KOF. Way above the 400 megatons feat from Akuma on SF.I dont know how those will hold up today. Heihachi is likely placed, below the 100 megaton volcanic eruoption from Kazuya vs Akuma.If KOF feats still hold up and Geese is scaled like they're doing it now... Then Heihachi is turbo fucked.
>>122112419They didn't fuck instead
>>122116790Other than Gaara the only character to be robbed was Sasuke. They left so much of his arsenal out AND gave him x3 speed, like holy shit, Sasuke with a x3 speed advantage could potentially win against Son Goku, let alone Hiei.The rest is fine. I'd rank the Naruto episodes the follow order:Gai vs All Might (one of the best choreographies they had even though the 3D was kinda shit. Good finalle ep)>Jiraiya vs Roshi (fair match, the characters were played out right)>>>Obi Wan vs Kakashi (good 3D, loses points because it's asinine to make such a stomp of a match and not give at least the strongest mode to the weakest character)>>>>Naruto vs Ichigo(the music was so fucking BAD and the stick part was fucking ridiculous)>>>>>piss me off tier because the characters were robbed>Toph vs Gaara( at least this one has the excuse of being one of the earliest ones)>>>>>Sasuke vs Hiei (fuck you Ben, no excuses)
>>122116764what makes Avatar so great specifically is that it doesn't have stupid OP powers they're just kids they aren't breaking the sound barrier or whatever dumb shit
>>122117131Gaara is gay.
>>122117155One thing I always liked is that Aang got taken out by archerssure they were the best archers in the world, but still, they're just humans while Aang is a master of the element designed entirely around avoidance, he's consistently the fastest and most agile character in the series
>>122117040Don’t doubt Heihachi man.
>>122117293I dont know shit about Tekken scaling. How does Heihachi compare to Jin?
Its me or a fighting game themed episode will be always be good if a Mortal Kombat character isn't included?
>>122117365Ryu vs Scorpion was pretty good.
>>122116560Just because A>B does not mean A>C
>>122116321Kyle has green lantern feats/scaling. That makes thing weird to say the least
>>122117452Yeah, my bad there. That was an excelent episode. (Keep in mind that I forgot to mention that I didn't include Machamp vs Goro in that category).
>>122117365it works better when its against KI.Like, I'd like to see Jago vs Liu Kang, but other than that I'm good fäm. give us more Darkstalkers, GG or BB.
>>122117483Yeah, Cage vs Falcon and Machamp vs Goro arent terrible but they aren't fighting game themed really.>>122117491Speaking of, I cant actually think of a bad Killer Instinct episode beyond S1 trash.
>>122117564there was a whole 3 round fight thing going on with Goro vs Machamp, but it was fairly subtle
>>122117564I would like Fulgore vs Sector to be remade.
>>122117755I liked how they included Machamp Rojo in Pokken with Guts
>>122117779Still think it's a bit of a shame they went for Guts instead of No Guard when it came to the machamp ability No Guard dynamic punch is basically machamp's signature move at this point
>>122117761If any S2 episode gets remade it surely has to be Terminator vs Robocop.
>>122116392There's no evidence that avatar characters are ftl.
>>122112484"How do you kill a vampire? Any way you want. They're not real."
>>122116764The average ninja has better stats than the average bender.
I am still pissed Homelander got wasted on the Seven Royale
"We originally had Harry Potter vs Aang, but Aang was too powerful so we decided on Luke"But Luke is even more powerful. When did you realize that Ben and co. are hacks?
>>122119342They probably didn't know about EU Luke
>>122119149The TV version sure.Not comic Homelander
>>122112484>the winner of the fight is whatever is most convenient for the plot at the time>no need to give any kind of in universe justification
>>122119511No one's saying there's no need for justification.But justification can be made up at any time it's convenient.
>>122119149TV Homelander vs Supreme Power Hyperion?
>>122120534>>122119511I should especially note this is also extremely true for not just how heroes can lose or die but how they can be brought back from the dead.
>>122117916Yeah that would be cool
Do you think they’ll ever put Superman in a death battle again?
>>122116745Power scaling is indeed incredibly dumb. Like how people try to make the demons in doom anything special when BUCKSHOT kills em dead.
>>122116745Death Battle shouldn't take series like dragon ball seriously. I mean they said beerus is universe+, but the manga recently contradicted the notion when moro, with the power of an angel, was going to, at best, destroy the whole galaxy due to his newly uncontrollable powers.
>>122112419>Wins because of a single line from "Avatar Extras" that states Toph can sense earth in the air.Nothing, Toph was just a hard-counter.
WEEBS MADWEEBS MAD
Who wins: Aang or SF Alpha Akuma
>>122112419Literally: >Garaa MIGHT have a little gold dust mixed into his sand, thus Toph can 100% nullify any of his attacks. We forgot about speed.
>>122121954They'll bring him back just to kill Goku again
>>122121954We’ll know this season. If they don’t do Superman vs Goku now, they’ll likely never will.
>>122112484Misleading. What he’s saying is that a writer can contrive any circumstance to make one character win and the other lose. But the game’s played under a given circumstance for both characters.It’s funny to see this posted again and again when anyone familiar with Stan era Marvel knows that it played into power hierarchies way, way, way more than DC. They’re the ones that started strength scales and class 1000 which became the goofy power grids in the 90’s. Remember the pages with Spidey being compared to the strength of different characters? Even in the stories there was a firm power hierarchy. Thing was stronger than Spidey. Hulk was stronger than Thing. Fantastic Four<<<<<<<power gap<<<<<<Silver Surfer<<<<<<Uatu and Galactus (it wasn’t clear which was more powerful at the time).
>>122122483Gotta go Akuma
The more important thing is why they chose to have to stupid faggot characters and voices as the presenters. I would have found this shit autistic when I was 11, why do you watch it?
>>122116934Redpill me on Geese? I never checked out KOF. It’s hard to imagine Heihachi losing a fight
>>122121954Probably not. By their own admission Supes is "as strong as he needs to be" so he can basically never loses a fight.
>>122123497Chad said they’d do it when dragon ball ends which is probably never
>>122116934>>122117040I don't think KOF has anything comparable to the triple digit megs they gave Akuma's island feat. The Zero canon just nuked South Town, so we're probably going to see Fatman/Little Boy numbers for it. There's also the question of Jack's TTT2 ending where he parodies Iron Giant. They were wishy washy on whether that was a joke ending or not in Ryu vs Jin.
>122123989I don't' know why honestly. There's just any other decent competition out there. We're here for the fights, not for the presenters. They are not funny or wise. I have a softspot for them, since I knew them when they were Screwattack and when I was a fan of the AVGN.
>>122122325That Beerus vs Goku was going to destroy a universe with both of them dying and Beerus vs Champa was going to be the same but with two universes should have put the brakes on the power wank. Too bad they went full Strunt.
>>122124167So Geese is getting thrown off right?
>>122124301Ideally, it ends with Heihachi strapping him to a rocket.
>>122124338Yeah but the One Minute Melee already did that.
>>122123703What about the comic where Hulk fights Boomerang? How does that fit into the power hierarchy?
>>122124590Stan era Hulk was far from the powerhouse he would later become. It used to be a big freaking deal he lifted part of a mountain in Secret Wars, and that was firmly into the Roy Thomas era. Namor kicked his ass once. When Batman kicked his ass in the crossover, that wasn't jobbing. That was just how Hulk was back then.
Will Heihachi vs Geese be 3D? It'll be weird if they do 3D for a fight no one asked for.
>>122124730No fucking way is Heihachi vs Geese something no one asked for
>>122124730>No one asked forExcuse you? This is the first fight this season that actually lives up to the "matches with history, every episode finale worthy" selling point.
>>122124774I love Tekken 7
>>122123989A show should have some recognizable personality. They have to provide something of their own into this copyrighted property mess.
>>122124796>>122124774I've been watching DB forever and scour every comments section. Never seen a single Heihachi vs Geese request. Hell, even in autistic debate forums like OBD, there's not a single Heihachi vs Geese thread. This was never a debate in anyone's head.
>>122124949Well you gotta get your eyes checked
>>122124949There's the vocal minority and the silent majority. Heihachi vs Geese takes them back to their roots. It's classic. If you believed the vocal minority, Gilgamesh vs Doom was highly requested.
>>122124935They need to know their place. They're curators, not stand up comedians. They're to introduce the fighters, explain what they can do, and then shut the fuck up. No one wants a Boomstick's daddy arc.
>>122124730I didn't want to reply to this thread, but what the fuck are you on about? Heihachi vs Geese was so big it got made official in Tekken 7.
>>122125080>No one wants a Boomstick's daddy arc.Yeah this is kinda why I skip first
the folks over at death battle seem be really big fans of fighting gameswonder if we are finally going to get jago vs liu kang in the next season
>>122125348I would hope so. It’s like 8 seasons without Liu Kang. Plus tiger vs dragon.
Shouldn´t Heihachi win? Also someone pls share a link to the thread reacting to the last db. I want to see the tears of the lexfags
>>122121954>1,000,000 x universal Goku in SSJ3>Quadrillion of times faster than light >vs Galaxy level Superman Good luck.
>>122125452>>122025710And yeah he should
>>122125452 It was mainly them going in denial and then the Supermanfag going in denial
>>122125419Too bad liu kang stomps
Just caught up. Thank god they didn't use Apex Lex.
>>122125580>Galaxy level SupermanNo
>>122125583>>122125625Thanks>>122125598>Supermanfag going in denialSweet
>>122121954They will most definitely use Superman or some iteration of him at least again.>>122124039Implying they don't change their shit match by match. The "strong as he needs to be" thing was just code for "fuck off Superman wins so stop asking for this match every time Goku gets a new hair color because they just aren't in the same ballpark at all" as they went into during the matchbut then anime universe wave wank happened (I don't buy that but that's their excuse) to make Goku at least a threat
>>122112419gaara would kill toph he has a fucking demon in him
>>122125676Death battle’s greatest feat for Superman (besides the infinite pages and Spectre feat) was absorbing anti-sunlight that could destroy half a galaxy. Even if Superman has infinite strength in benching (which he doesn’t, he had to use all his strength to simply move one planet thirteen meters in a recent issue, see pic related.) he has only small Galaxy level durability which doesn’t scale to attack potency. Superfag is fucked.
>>122125348Still waiting for my boy to get in and fuck shit up
>>122125676Wasn’t he amped during that?
>>122125762By wanking anime they have made all DC high tiers almost unbeatable
>>122125782Wasn’t he made universal scaling to Shazam in his episode?
>>122125782>Completely ignoring the fact that Superman holds back all the time, still has mental blocks, and was moving the planet under a red sun, especially with the fact that Superman can consistently move planets without breaking a sweat like in the New 52 where an even weaker Superman benchpressed the weight of the earth for 5 days straight without sunlight before sweating even one drop Cope.
>>122125792Yes, and we’ve established in multiple other themreads that he didn’t destroy a mutliverse with that punch by flooring the monitor and stopping the monitor from creating said multiverse. He left a giant crater in the planet, making that a moon-tier punch after being amped up, not multiverse-tier.
>>122123703>all this headcanon totwist a deadmans narrative to his useless powerwankhes the guy that approved spiderman beating the juggernaut he definitely means powerlevels are worthless fuck off
Toph woulld easly win because she can fuck gara without him even understanding what happens.
>>122125782Actually it does now since Beerus got universal durability despite it being said he would not survive the universe being destroyed
>>122125912Are you retarded? Superman literally cracked the 6th dimension and it was consistently shown in the comic that Superman destroyed the Forger’s masterpiece, which was his multiverse. Superman flooring a Monitor is also not something to scoff at, considering he should scale above the sphere of the gods which is full of platonic concepts and shit. The earth Superman only cracked was a 6th dimensional earth, and it’s very impressive that he cracked it in the first place.
>>122114380>Stopping Madara midair with specs of sand, is Toph supposed to be stronger than Madara too?Yes
>>122125845What universal feat did Shazam have in his episode?
>>122112461Pretty much like how they wanked her seismic sense. In the show she can only predict and counter her opponents bending by sensing their body movement. It shouldn't have worked on Gaara since he doesn't need to move to attack her. But they wanked it so she can perfect sense of any earth movement.
>>122125782See Hal vs Ben and Wally vs Sonic.Imagine a guy that could scales above Wally and Hal and then some. That's Superman.
>>122126075Wally was given the Infinite Mass Punch which was solar system level. Hal scales to Kyle, who was given a universal level feat. Goku was given 1 million universes in Super Saiyan 3.It’s over.
>>122125912>Superman destroys the anvil the forger uses to create the multiverse by, quite literally, hitting it so that universes and hypertime pops out.>He does this in one punchHe's going to take whatever new color Goku us behind the shed and fuck his ass into submission. Goku will be cemented as one of DC's slaughtered cows alongside Ben 10 and Archie Sonic.
>>122126072He can move faster than any shockwave. That's how he wins and then some. But that would have meant Toph dying blind and frightened, and being prepubescent such a scenario triggers Ben's protective instincts instead of his dick.
>>122126125That’s what you weebs said the first time. And the second. At some point, stop swinging
>>122125993Superman destroyed Forger’s anvil, not his multiverse. We have no durability feats whatsoever for the anvil, the fact it can create a multiverse says nothing for how much force it takes to break it.
Imagine thinking lex had a chance against thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwCxb_RfGaQ
>>122126125So when they talked about Wally being able to destroy universes and Hal killing beings capable of effecting the multiverse your mind just what, went blank? They clarified that the IM could destroy a universe in one shot by scaling Wally to the Legion girl and stated he could rapid fire them.1 million universes aren't shit when just 1 DC universe is wanked to be thousands under the Adam Strange feat. Any DC character that goes a toe beyond one universe strangles DBS characters with their own girly pajamas.
>>122126188It’s the truth though.Superman is solar system level at best. Goku is Multiversal. The only people who can compare to him are Multiversal beings like the Spectre or True Form Darkseid, and even then Goku just Hakai’s them out of existence.DCucks kneel to the superior Dragon ball CHADS.
>>122126202Do you not understand what forging is?
>>122126202He created the multiverse and hypertime and Barabtos by hitting the anvil again and again and again. We're talking an anvil that literally takes a multiverse level pounding on the regular and Superman shattered it with one, just one, punch.
>>122126202>We have no durability feats for the anvilThe multiverse was made by smacking it hard enough. As in his hammer hit it and big bangs and cosmic shit happened. Take a wild guess.
>>122126202He destroyed his anvil too, plus his masterpiece which was said to be the new multiverse the Justice League went into through the 6th dimension. Superman destroying the masterpiece of the Forger, the anvil, and knocking out the Forger himself are three feats which shouldn’t be scoffed at.
>>122126235Keep trying monkeylover
>>122126235Unimpressive. For such fragile universes, no matter the quantity, pale before a single DOOM universe
>>122126221Doesn’t matter anyway. Give Superman infinite universes. Goku still wins due to MUI and Hakai. That’s all there is to it.
>>122126305How was Lex suppose to ever compete with this?
>>122126169>He can move faster than any shockwave. That's how he wins and then some.The gave both Aang and Zuko, lightning reflexes. I'm pretty they'd give it to Toph too.
>>122126320>HakaiThey show Superman flexing against the Omega Effect and other "you get erased" powers. Next.>MUISuperman had that power back in the 90's. They also made Brolly, who they calced as twice a Goku, slower than fucking Lex Luthor. You figure it out.
>>122126356He wasn't. As none can compete with DOOM
>>122112419>Acting like Gaara (or even just his projectiles) wasn't faster than toph's reaction speed.>Acting like Gaara would keep his sand armor on with an enemy that could use it against him>Not Knowing Gaara has Magnet release, meaning the intrinsic weaknesses of putting Gold Dust in his sand are counteracted.>Acting like Gold Dust has the same level of impurities as a random hunk of gold.>Metal bending wire that magically can turn into Armor, which wouldn't even Stop Gaara because as his fight with bone guy shows steel ain't shit to him (He almost killed bone guy despite his hard as steel bones protecting him, with the guy only surviving thanks to curse mark hacks)>Acting the like guy who's compared to a fucking tailed beast has shit stamina>"Toph can bend non-moving sand at one point, so she can totally also bend sand that's constantly moving and literally has a life of it's own!">Gaara, who's pretty smark, doesn't use his extensive seal knowledge to put exploding notes in his sand, turning it into a frag grenade when toph condenses it.just off the top of my head
>>122126390Goku still wins.
Who'd be a good Match for her?
>>122126208Man. Doom was so fucking cool in that gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bm__XUpssE
>>122126062Scaling to Zeus
>>122126244>Superman broke the thing whose purpose is to make new multiversesSuperman is a villain now?
Does Doom have a gypsy accent?
Again and once and for all Naruto doesnt exist.
>>122126686End of Death Metal either gave Forger a new anvil or gave the multiverse the ability to create new universes on its own. Snyder wasn't very clear.
>>122116273It would've been a much better fit for Scrooge than Shovel Knight. I still think Scrooge would win, but keep in mind Krabs is a decorated navy vet and once fought off an entire army of undead for Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen's hat.
>>122116273>>Lord Drakkon vs. Oma Zi-OThat's actually a good one but Oma would stomp
>>122116745Reminder that if you post this on the Official DB Discord, you get banned automatically.
>>122126924How big is Scrooge? Because Krab's is just a normal sized crab
>>122126924Scrooge should fight Wario.
>>122125080>They need to know their placeAnd you need to remember yours, last time I checked you're just some guy here spewing bullshit with nothing to show for it, but by all means please show us you can do better or fuck off.
>>122125625Nice, brings a tear to my eye. >:)
>>122126125...? The fuck did that come from? 1 million universes?
>>122116392How the fuck are those people FTL? Avatar verse only top out at low-supersonic speeds only if you highball it.Narutoverse outclass Avatarverse in all stats. When you're eyeballing feats Narutoverse wins.If you bring out calcs, scaling and shit the gap becomes even bigger.
Gaara should've gone against Crocodile.And Toph against Terra. It's this simple
>>122127610according to deathbattle it's because Iroh deflected cloud lightning, which makes everyone who scales up to Iroh FTLand given Iroh is fairly slow compared to everyone else, this makes basically everyone in Avatar FTLenjoy Deathbattle calculations
Toph should have fought Terra.>>122116273Pic related.>>122119149Butcher and Homelander to be exact. Although, they might use both characters eventually.>>122116934>So, Geese Vs Heihachi, who wins?Heihachi, hands down.>>122124167You don't even need to do very extensive research to know who wins this. Heihachi is fucking OP.>>122122483Akuma. Why Aang VS Akuma though?>>122124301Probably. Or >>122124338.
Decided to buy this, and suggested them to do more posters, even if characters are arranged by VAs and not actual DB episodes, but who knows if they will listen.
i really want to see caitlin fairchild vs she-hulk, both beatiful and muscular female heroes in a fight to the death.
>>122128403It's kinda shitty. I hate that layer of hot pink all over Renamon and the fact that Bayo doesn't seem to be aiming at her.
So now that Invincible is getting popular among normalfags and Viltrumites are once again being compared to SaiyansYay or nay?
>>122129005They probably wouldn't waste a match on Nappa.
>>122115704Wtf no. I feel old
>>122115704I still think Punk Hazard is a modern One Piece arc. It's probably 8 or 9 years old now.
>>122117140One thing I don't see talked about is that Deathbattle said Hiei could resist Sasuke taking his soul with the human path, even though Hiei gets his soul taken in the manga and couldn't do anything.
>>122112419>Gaara>AnimeWhen will you learn? This is Death Battle, leave your power-scaling at the door and be prepared for unironic facts and logic. It wouldn't have mattered if Gaara was still possessed by Shukaku (守鶴). Toph would just earthbend Skukaku back up Gaara whiny, pasty white ass. Death Battle just didn't want to waste more money animating the loser and embarass you guys furhter. This is why they include shit like the digimon trainer beating up the Pokémon trainer during the Charizard vs Greymon fight. Its just a way out. Something to give to the more annoying fandom so they can pretend their character had a chance.
>>122128851still buying itgood enough to hang it
>>122129457Well. Charizard kinda deserved to lose
>>122129005they won't include Conquest til he's on the show. and we'll see where animated Viltrumites are by then. they seem similarly powerful so far, may end up being stronger though.
>>122126699he would obviously have trained it away long ago
>>122129457>This is why they include shit like the digimon trainer beating up the Pokémon trainer during the Charizard vs Greymon fightWell yeah, that's something Tai would do.
>>122129293They did Hercule and Taka voicing Nappa is always a crowd pleaser
>>122129457Pokefags deserved to be humbled.
>>122129840>Pokefags deserved to be humbled.And then they did Renamon vs Lucario for damage control among Pokefags, and everybody found it stupid because neither was allowed to evolve nor fight seriously.
>>122126833Snyder has never been clear since Dark Nights Metal, really. The impression I got from Forger's last on-page scene before Hell Arisen was that Snyder was trying to give everyone an out to never use his OC again anyway.
>>122129941>>122128403You reminded me that Trish vs. Jeanne was a damage control or consolation prize video for Bayonetta fans, and it was so fucking badly animated, plus hated by DMCrybabies, that they didn't have any choice but to unlist it. At least Pokefags got something to brag about. Death Battle didn't give a shit about Bayonetta, outside of the VA going out of her way to commission that Genzoman piece the other anon posted earlier. White men cannot have strong females from persecuted or discriminated minorities get away with anything, especially nowadays.
>>122130058Snyder has always had murky fucking world building since Court of fucking Owls. How does anything about the Court of Owls make any sense?
>>122130154God, it's so fucking weird to think back to the Court of Owls and marvel at how comparatively sane and down to Earth it was compared to BATKEK OVER HEAVEN and LA GRANDE MADRE and EL HERMANO DE ANTI-MONITORE and LOS MANOS DE FUENTE. Weirder than how many of the criticisms that can be levelled at Comics!Snyder are equally applicable to Movies!Snyder.
>>122131051His JL was just Court of Owls on a larger level. Both COO and Batkek are evil, faceless, omniscient evil that figured out everything years before the heroes and only lose because anime friendship owers.
SO HERE I AM. DOING EVERYTHING I CANHOLDING ON TO WHAT I CANPRETENDING I'M A SUPERMAN
>>122127726lightning only moves around 1/3rd the speed of light, though
>>122116745Powerscaling has it's time and place
>>122125784Undefined and lacks feats
>>122112419>Toph can't bend if immobilized>They explicitly explain this>Show Gaara immobilizing her in sand coffin>Have him say "Now you can't move">She bends her way out and kills himThey've been wrong before, but this was embarrassing
>>122112500He can just sand crush her. He has a 2 on 1 advantage over her for controlling his own sand.
>>122131340>Twice as fast>More powerful suit>Loses because "Oh he doesn't know the mother box that well lol."Bullshit
>>122126072>>122126389Didn't watch the video, their shit has been terrible for a long time. But:She's vulnerable to floating enemies, that's how Aang beat her and Sand Lad can float.He can also make sand float, and also has a pile of sand on his body (for when there's no sand at hand).I don't remember if she can bend sand (pretty sure sure can't, but sand tribe people can or whatever, I don't remember it's been a while), there was more than one sand episode, but anyway if they want to argue that the two of them are going to have a sand tug of war then objectively Gaara is stronger at that too, or at the very least maybe he loses and then his tailed beast takes over and goes on a rampage.Plus he has ninja tools and shit, whereas she only has her earth bending and close quarters fighting. I mean the problem is Naruto breaks its own flimsy rules even as it reinvents them, when it even bothers to have any at all.Supposedly the absolute original concept was for them to all be wizards instead of ninjas, and their powers to be literal magic instead of figurative (but basically still literal) magic.Avatar tries to make things pretty grounded and have concrete rules and limitations.It's like the "could [well written character from a well defined world with concrete and finite attributes that slightly exceed out own] be able to beat [a thing from 40k]?">>122113866>The entire death battle series is stupid conceptuallyIt is stupid and it COULD have been fun but it isn't, and that's the main problem.
>>122112419They forgot Gaara stopped Deidara city busting bomb
>>122112484Why I agree with the general sentiment of asking these kind of questions abstractly is retarded, I also dislike how retards try to use this quote as a justification of the idea characters' strength is somehow the one aspect of the story that does not need consistency. I mean, face it, if people beating each other up is an important element of your stories, this stuff matters. Otherwise there's no suspense. You can have any character defeat any character, sure. But it must still make sense.
>>122129005>>122129697Nappa vs Conquest sounds cool but seems a long way away.
>>122117356Previously both Kazuya and Heihachi were no match for Jin but in T6 Kazuya managed to fight with Lars who in turn fought an almost full power Base Jin as he used his full power to destroy Golden AzazelMeanwhile Heihachi had just recovered from the Jack-4 incident and began training again After being overpowered by Lars, Heihachi decided to train even harder which allowed him to fight Akuma albeit losing and a Kazuya that did not stopped training, here both unleashed a transformation that placed them above Golden Azazel and Base JinFull Power Heihachi = True Devil Kazuya >> Final Battle Base Heihachi = Final Battle Third Eye Kazuya = Full Power Jin > Golden Azazel > Almost Full Power Jin = Lars = T6 Kazuya > T6 Heihachi
>>122132469They knew. They didn't give a fuck. Cause ki trumps chakra apparently?
>>122129543Post it once it arrives
>>122126244Wasn't Superman heavily sundipped at the time?
>>122134150No. He used one to restore his powers and followed a trail back to Earth. There was no mention of him being amped and he didn't change colors as sun charging does to him. It's also a moot point. At 5 quintillion times the speed of light (which he's MUCH faster than) he can fly through as many suns as he needs in picosecond.
>>122133161>AkumaSo he definitely cucked Heihachi right?
>>122134245He's the only man that could.
>>122134245In half yes, Kazumi was sent from the beginning by the Hachijo Clan to kill Heihachi once she finished training with him, however by staying with him apparently she developved a good side not influenced by her gene that loved him to keep the evil side at bay and have a child, however it resurfaced once she saw that her son and husband would destroy the world and during this time she was saved by Akuma to tell him to kill themHer good side loves Heihachi and her evil gene side likely Akuma
>>122112419What was stopping Toph from crushing Gaara inside his own sand armor from a distance?
I barely remember anything about Naruto but by the final arc all the ninjas were basically Dragonball characters with the shit they were capable of. Toph winning was just the writers pandering.
Toph and Gaara would unironically be adorable together
>>122134625The fact that Gaara has even better earth crushing feats than she does.
>>122134668I think Gaara might be gay. I know it's crude to judge people's sexuality for their lack of partnership but Gaara had tons of choices and is even seen surrounded by fangirls, yet he ends up single with an addopted kid.
>>122116934Geese just because he can PREDICTABO all the moves of Heihachi.
>>122134841>single with an addopted kid.Sounds like heaven desu
>>122134357Like banging though
>>122115427So we still didn't get to see Gaara win?
>>122112419they take the character with more conections to street fighter and make him loseBECAUSE THEY HATE STREET FIGHTER
>>122116934heihachi managed to fucking survive against AKUMAgeese doesnt stand a chance. since they hate street fighter
>>122136486These dudes hate Naruto this much. Ben was probably an OBD poster back in the late 2000s and got indocrinated into hating the series.
>>122126169Fucking hell is THAT why she won?Because "muh badass little girl"?
>>122136711I don't even like Naruto that much, but come on, Toph should've had her ass handed to her.
>>122112419Narutards hate facts,.
>>122112484You, and everyone who agrees with you, are retarded. There is no writer or plot in Deathbattle, so Stan's quote does not apply.
>>122131779He has gold dust in his sand, which he has NO power over, and Toph does. Meaning she has more power over his sand than she does. She can also turn his sand to solid stone, he had to turn it back to sand to use it, but she can attack with normal rocks while he does so. Toph wins.
>>122114200By season 3 she was astronomically better at it.
>>122138109Gaara tagged Rock Lee and Madara with his sand, how the fuck is Toph fast enough to do anything to him, especially when he can fly?
>>122138109>which he has NO power overBut that's wrong, Gaara has magnet release.
Which /co/ character or anime character would be a good/fun matchup for Eren?
I can't believe there are still people saying Toph deserved her victory. I hope you guys are trolls.
>>122132256“Twice as fast” doesn’t mean shit when Doom has magic and soul-swap. Lex has to use fisticuffs to win. All Doom needs to do is think a single thought and Lex’s body and soul are then his property.
>>122139413Some say Shinji
>>122116952Raging demon directly attacks the user's soul. You cannot get Dura calcs out of that.
>>122139599I did but as a joke. Eva 01 would step and Eren would turn into a huge pool of blood if not straight up vaporized.
well, bump#justiceForNarutoI demand Death Battle to begin a winning streak for this series this season.
>>122141858"You want more Naruto huh? Well alright then!">Ben orders the research team to start doing Boruto vs Gohan, Sakura vs Rukia, Yamcha vs Kiba, and Sasuke vs Riku
>>122142599>Boruto vs Gohanif it was kid gohan, this might be acceptablekeyword is "might"
>>122138136She got good at sandbending, but didn't say if it resolved any tremor sense issues.
>>122141858I demand a losing streak
>>122142910It's already in that.>Sasuke>Leewatch them force Madara eat a loss this season.
>>122142910fuck off ben
>>122112419This fight isn't even a good match up. Toph vs Terra makes way more sense
>>122143053aizen sama i kneel
>>122136766Toph fans also made her sprite sheet from the ground up, and this was before the WB money and their egos inflating so they felt indebted.>>122125924You mean the story whose entire point was that Spidey was SOL against Juggernaut in a fight and had to trap him in concrete to stop him from building initial momentum to win? Cain didn't even go all out against Pete, he was just something he swatted away on his way to the target.
>>122133787>NOTE: This is a Special Order item, which means that it is available ONLINE ONLY. It is also either a new print or between print-runs, which means that if ordered, please expect additional processing time for printing, packing, and shipping of your order.Seems it will take more than expected for it to arrive. Probably in like one or two weeks.https://www.marissalenti.com/online-store/*SPECIAL-ORDER*-Death-Battle-Renamon-VS-Bayonetta-Autographed-Poster-p323390430
>>122131450Rule of cool
>>122121954I can't fucking wait for the day he crosses the most powerful magical girl in anime.
>>122144910>Galaxia used her stats and lost to a low balled BeerusSuperman would rape her to death.
>>122144931>Implying Superman is even near Beerus' statsAnd Sailor Moon is even more powerful than Galaxia. He has no defense against magic hax and fate manipulation.
>>122144964>More powerful than GalaxiaShe stalemated her in a fight. We already know Death Battle thinks they're equivalent because they used her stats for Galaxia. Galaxia vs Beerus was Moon vs Beerus.>He has no defense against magic hax and fate manipulationRead more Superman.
>>122127726The Naruto databooks have so many light speed confirmations.Imagine they calcstacked Naruto like they do with Dragon Ball and Avatar, lol.oh and that moon feat, took one punch to defeat Toneri and the dude was fine and we know Naruto doesn't lose strenght in each clone he makes, they're all equally just as strong, but Death Battle doesn't give a fuck about being honest with this series.
>>122145007>Death Battle thinks they're equivalentThat's irrelevant. Galaxia has one stat above Moon in destructive power. Moon is stronger than her in speed, strength, defense, and magic. Overall, her stats together are much higher.Good luck trying to kill someone that rewrites herself to prevent death.
>>122116745In the King Dedede vs Wario one they used the fact that there's a kirby minigame where you try and punch really hard, and at the end there's a little animation of the planet cracking in half, as justification that because Dedede is about as strong as kirby Dedede can therefore deliver enough of a punch to crack a planet in half
>>122112419Nothing. Gaara lost the moment he decided to put sand in his skin.
>>122116790Might Guy is cool as fuck.
>>122145273What's even more nonsense is that the punch is only 200 megatons, which isn't enough to crack an actual planet, so they made Kirby seem way stronger than he is.
>>122144931Nah, he would go on a couple of dates, romance her like a gentleman and then have sweet brutal sex that ends with her pussy destroyed.
Can't Gaara fly? How would Toph even see him with seismic sense
>>122145976How big is PopStar? Kirby in canon is only 8 inches tall, so is their planet smaller than Earth
>>122144964>fate manipulation.Remember when the furries were using that defense. Did not end well
>>122116745This, they constantly wank DCshit and give characters feats that were only situational at the time and never ever used again or acknowledged
>>122147341>MUH SITUATIONALImagine still crying
>>122122325>>122124299>still crying about Dragonball Lmao get over it already
>>122112484Stan Lee was cringe but so many people need to hear this. Fictional characters live in stories, narratives. They don't live in simulations with perfect internal consistency. Hypothetical battles are stupid nonsense.
>>122138086>There is no writer or plot in DeathbattleAre you fucking retarded?
>>122147101Kinda did considering Flashfags were having a meltdown for 2 weeks and STILL had a meltdown calling it "rigged" even when he won.
How can toph stop air projectiles?
Do you think they’ll ever get into Final Crisis shit? Imagine having death battle give your favorite anime MC as much universal scaling all they want but then they give Superman Grant cosmology scaling lmao
>>122145089Give Sailor Moon 1 million universes. Give her septillions of times faster than light stats. Give her fate manipulation and magic. Superman still reigns supreme, even at the end of all stories.
>>122147483Nah, frankly Sonicfags were insufferable and autistic as always in the threads before it, those threads were as bad as they were because both sides had no filter cap to their fanfic retardation. But just like all defeated opponents they were silenced by the victorious party after the episode released.
>>122147771>they were silenced Nah they were dabbing on flashfags after the fact because like I said, they still threw a fit even when they won and tried to desperately deny their previous spergouts. They even tried to do hal-style posting in sonic threads and even got shat on by one halfag on one occasion. Flash won, but FlashFAGS lost.
>>122147771Nah man I was there. Wallyfags were far more insufferable. Fuckin every other day it was "Wahhhh they're rigging it against Flash cheaaaaaters" then "lol some guy on Discord is seething so that must mean Wally wins" then "NOOOOOOO THEY FOUND SOMETHING! TOTALLY RIGGED FOR SONIC!"For fucks sake it was abysmal. Then the troll raids made em go chimp out more.
>>122112419nothing really, just loser's refusing to cope. like every death battle
>>122147483Keep telling yourself that Chris
>>122147504A throwaway directors commentary line that says she can detect even flying earth, somehow.
>>122149673As far as I'm aware she's never done anything remotely like this in canon in two different series. Death of the author, I'm calling bullshit.
>>122147937>They even tried to do hal-style posting in sonic threadsSonicfags STILL bring up Wally on their own threads, now long after those Quasi-Halposters have given up. Such is the extent that their defeat remains Rent Free in their heads.Not that Wallyfags are mature either though, but that’s comoaring two types of shit.
>>122150209>Sonicfags STILL bring up Wally on their own threads,They do? I've browsed some storytime threads and I haven't seen anyone mentioning Flash
>>122150252They want to become the new hot meme like Benfags but that will never happen. Ben 10 has a different kind of motivation behind that makes Hallfagging funny. It's not just about the DB episode anymore.
They should've given Toph an easier matchup than a fucking Naruto character if they were going to feed her a win.
>>122147771>Wallyfags trying to rewrite historyfittingthese threads were filled with the slow realization that Wally MIGHT actually lose and Wallyfags were throwing a fucking bitchfit lmao
>>122151134This, kek. Initially everyone took it for a given Wally was the most likely winner and most of hullaballoo was over the risk of DB wanking Sonic. The moment the conversation took to bringing up things that MIGHT stand up to Wally, Wallyfags broke down. It’s not too surprising when you think about it, given Heroes in Crisis and Wally’s return to form coming with the SEVERE caveat of that happening simultaneously as the garbage Death Metal event and ultimately Wally still got outskilled by Batcuck
>>122147101Because Death Battle ignores feats when they can't counter it, hence /thread/. I'm all for Flash, but broken magic is OP.
>>122147046It's the small size as Earth. As proven by shiver star being a frozen over Earth and the same size as Popstar. Besides, while you can say Kirby characters themselves are small, there's nothing to support the planet being mini too. Also lmao at not thinking Dedede is near Kirby strength wise. Plus HAL themselves confirmed the mini games are meant to show what the characters are capable of.
>>122147101They'll just say it's narrative convenience not an actual power so it doesn't matter cause THEY'RE the ones in charge of this narrative.
>>122152491Popstar isn't as durable as earth then, because the highest score you can get in that minigame is 201 megatons. That's nowhere near enough to break the earth in two.
>>122125924>hes the guy that approved spiderman beating the juggernautBy dumping him a pit of concrete, not outright beating him in a fight. Actually speaking of which for early Spidey he didn't really beat a lot of his foes through outright strength, just staying alive long enough to figure out some bullshit. Like with vulture he won by making something to nullify the vulture's tech, not by beating the shit out of him
>>122150928And she had one, Terra.
>>122152139Nah, it’s because Wally has run circles around concepts before. Literally
>>122115215Link vs. Cloud is still the one that makes me the angriest.Link gets to be an amalgam of every single Link with all of their knowledge and items and training and has Z-Targeting even though that's a game mechanic and not a power.Cloud gets...the Buster Sword and two low level spell materia.Yeah that's totally fuckin' fair.
>>122153215It's still funny how Final Fantasy only win is seen as wrong by a lot of people.
>>122142599Kiba should fight Galford from SamshoThat said, Galford's most thematic opponent is unironically Seryu from AGKJustice obsessed warriors accompanied by a canine (or in Seryu's case, resembling a canine) companionOne's a carefree vigilante ninja, the other's a bloodthirsty soldier
I decide every death battle by which IP the characters are from is less gay.So Toph marginally wins.
>>122126072>>122149673>>122149695She's detected Earth in midair in the show itself(season 3, don't remember the episode in particular right now), and she could detect and bend mud despite not being in contact with it (standing on wood) in the painted last.She would still lose horribly, but this is legit.This however means that the feat Death Battle uses to claim Avatar characters are fast enough to react to lightning >>122127726is suspect- Iroh sensed it ahead of time as well.
>>122154071>painted lastPainted Lady.
>>122153633Remind me which one that is?
You guys think Boomerstick's dad issues will lead to a dad episode (Dad Battle) ?Imagine they did Kratos vs Asura lol
>>122154197Wait no, I don't want to waste my monkey paw on that one....I like this one better.
>>122154215I wanna see Father fight so bad.
>>122149673She can detect earth but she can also get hit by it. The Tai Li fucking nailed her ass.
>>122154197That's Heihachi vs GeeseFun fact, Chad was the one who showed the most concern about if this plotline might become too overbearing
>>122154197>Imagine they did Kratos vs Asura lolThen it would be worse than Dio VS Alucard.
>>122154215I want to say Benedict is physically superior, I'm sure there's some cartoon slapstick that could stat him at gigatons using KND's nonsense, but his weakness to excess cold / freezing temperatures (which the kids weirdly never use more than once, huh) makes it an easy win for Father (FMA) if he can figure out to synthesize a shit ton of ice cream for the guy who uses fire based powers.
>>122154472I dunno about that anon, the novels are canon
>>122154490Father fell through the center of the Earth.
>>122154490FMA Father has no idea that'd be KND Father's weaknessFather's Dragon Form did pic related>>122154215Luis unironically wants to do it
>>122128403Took more than 10 years for someone to finally make DB goods like this. Why would that change all of sudden? Looks more like the respective VA of Renamon and Bayo had the initiative to make and sell this, by herself, rather than with help from the rest of DB or RT's crew, which she's part of anyway. Luckily for her, Genzoman seems to be a lot into Bayonetta and working with female characters as a whole, so that's probably the reason this came to be.https://www.deviantart.com/genzoman/gallery?q=bayonettaMaybe if another artist, DB member or VA bother listening to fans, we will get more goods like that poster, but I wouldn't hold my breath. The lack of initiative from the rest of DB/RT's team, and DB fans being unable to properly voice their specific demands, make the situation more complicated. This seems to be more of a lucky exception, rather than the rule going forward.
>>122134625The fact that he doesn't wear his sand armor unless it's a last minute defense which was stated in the manga.
>>122154631>FMA Father has no idea that'd be KND Father's weaknessYou don't think it'd be kind of a given to counter the guy who uses fire powers with an excess amount of ice?
>>122132256Your suit and speed don't really matter if you fall into a position where you can get Ginyu'd like Lex did.
>>122144910He will fall, just like Goku.
When are we getting Anne Frank vs. Lizzie Borden
>>122155774Which one of them is pregnant and is Devil Flanders the father?
>>122155662>He will fallYou do realize that Superman literally cannot fall, right? Put anyone against Superman: Azathoth, Judy, Goku, Saitama, it doesn’t matter. All are contained within Superman and are overpowered by Superman considering that Superman is the container of all of them and is hence beyond them. Superman IS story, all story, the story fighting non-story, both being the page on which all fiction is drawn on, fighting on the edge of the mind of God. All magic, meta, narrative, fiction, and the like, are contained within Superman and hence are surpassed by Superman’s story, which is the story which is the head of all other stories, including the story of Sailor Moon, and the stories involving her which haven’t even been thought up yet and cannot be thought up yet. All is Superman, and Superman wins due to being too Super for anyone else.
>>122154215He might have chance in dragon form, unless Father is in God State
>>122155219It does look like the stars aligned correctly for this, when you put it that way. Testing waters with these "girls" is fine enough, but now they left me wishing for more merch with other fighters. Dealing with the copyright issue must not help either, like the "first fallen" shirt proved.
>>122157255Base Knd Father destroyed a very small portion of forestIn Dragon Form his fire breath managed to penetrate the ground and go to space, its unknown if he is as durable as his father who survived being smashed around the earthBase Fma Father is more powerful than a philosopher stone which allowed Kimblee to ruin a large portion of a city during the Ishval Civil WarLastly in his God State, Father managed to gain all the knowledge and energy of the earth including its sun and has implied he has no problem creating planets
>>122156288Doomsday, Darlseid, Batman, just like "he's a strong as he needs to be", the writers make him lose as well, wanna try again? Superman ain't God.
>>122157715>dude ash pikachu is totally universal because necrozma absorbed some light and shitty anime only scaling
>>122157746>>122157715>bro judy would be the best character to show in death battle to beat the shit out of those DCfags even though she wouldn't be entertaining to see fight due to no actual moves and works more as a horror plot device than an actual character
>>122157715>man, pyramid head should fight nemisis even though he is not a character that you can use in Death battle due to being part of another character psyche
>>122157517KND father fell through the center of the Earth. And I think he flew to the moon on the last episode just using his power.
>>122157841Nemesis vs Cyberdemon or bust.
>>122157876If we go by the ''amazing pokemon scaling'' Champion Leon is likely Multiversal because he is deemed the strongest trainer in the world which would include Tobias with Darkrai in the Anime, Rainbow Rocket Cyrus Dialga in the Games and Cynthia who fought the Creation Trio in the Manga
>>122157841Tell that to Dead by Daylight.
>>122157968dead by daylight's a fucking retarded mess where the dev team has no sense of connection with the playersthey could've just added james and said pyramid head was spawned from his mind by the entity but they had to do it the retarded way
>>122155662Should not be having a boner over this
>>122145057Technically each clone is a bit weaker assuming the Shadow Clone is roughly equal to the wood clones of Hashirama, the clones are very strong but not really able to defeat someone who is actually an equal of the full body.
Toph jobbed in literally every fight against major charactersthe only time she doesn't job is when she's up again the meme boulder and random background goons
Can toph defeat kid gaara from the chunnin exams?
>>122160181No and not even because of Shukaku, but also because of Shukaku.
>>122158171They did that for Dragon Ball but somehow it's forbidden for Naruto?btw Juubi is Universal.
>>122154111Vergil vs Sephiroth, aka cutting a door with the strength of fifty gigafarts of TNT
Kisame vs katara
>>122154111Sephiroth VS Vergil where they use some sort of composite Sephiroth taking stuff from all his forms, Kingdom Hearts stuff etc, and some straight up nonsensical shit for stat boosting like Zack cutting down a door to somehow get him as being able to hit with the force of three nukes. They did that all while severely downplaying Vergil
>>122161244Uh, Katara wins because she can control water better than Kisame and she doesn't have chakra
>>122161360What about tobirama vs katara?
When are they going to do a FF episode that isn’t about 7
>>122161640Bring em in!
>>122112419Nothing's gonna beat the disappointment that is the Tifa vs. Yang fight for me.Hell, Yang vs. Katsuragi from Senran Kagura would've made more sense in my opinion.
>>122161119So is this saying it's a fragment of the tree that gave birth to the universe?Then it's not universal, it's a fragment of something universal.
>>122161596They won't be giving Naruto a pity revenge match.I think Ray vs Korra was namedropped in the podcast, that's far more likely to happen.
>>122161845You think they make distinctions like that?Really?A fucking mirror let them wank Galaxia to multiversal. Sailor Moon didn't even destroy the mirror, she restored it.
>>122128457They don't love us enough to do it.
>>122161925No the Juubi has feats to back that claim up. People just chose to ignore them.
>>122161266>Sephiroth only able to cast illusions, specifically on Cloud, when literally surrounded by mako while sleeping in a crystal>give him the ability anyway>Vergil was enslaved by Mundus once after losing to him in a fight, already weak from fighting Dante>he's weak to the illusions and losesThey really went all out.
>>122161925Yeah that's the same bullshit they use to wank Jedi to planetary (they aren't and never were).Some douchebag Yarael Poof fixed a bomb that would've blown up Coruscant so suddenly all Jedi are planet busters.DB logic, making bomb technicians able to destroy skyscrapers.
>>122162081Making a dimension isn’t exactly the same as destroying a universe. I can plant a tree, doesn’t make me tree level when it pops up
>>122162227Come to think of it. Did the games ever establish if Sepriroth’s illusions work on everyone or just the jenova clones?
>>122162456It was never made clear but it was implied, it was pretty clear he was only able to do it because of his unique circumstance though.Not like DB particularly cares about either.
>>122162405No, that giant ball was going to destroy everything as it expanded.
>>122161845The tree is the Juubi's last form. Ootsutsukies use the God trees to create dimensions.Even a single bijuu (like the eight tails) is enough to create a God tree.
>>122157865>>122157841I've seen Nemesis vs Big Daddy which I think is retarded but it's there.
>thread still up after two days.WTF, I thought /co/ was a fast board.
>>122163595It's because there isn't much to talk about in relation to the next episode.Im betting on Heihachi being the winner but other than the games I don't know much about Tekken and KoF.
>>122163983>>122163595Heihachi is a lock. He’s a bad motherfucker. I imagine they’ll make a joke about cooked Geese
Cant think of a good mu for Albert Wesker. Any ideas?
>>122164350Kazuya would have been a fun match but they just used Tekken.Mr. Sinister could be a good opponent for him too.
>>122126356>Cringe before your master!
>>122164939Connections between Kazuya and Wesker?
>>122161119Creating a universe/dimension doesn't mean you're strong enough to destroy one.
>>122166834best example of this is pokemon's Arceusit literally gave birth to Time and Space, but it sure as hell isn't Universe +
>>122112419You for caring about some retarded as fanfic.
>>122166834It was going to create a new dimension and destroy the one they were in. Kakashi even stated they would be unable to return to it if it kept expanding.
Toph wins the fight because id fuck her
>>122154518Not really. Kratos isn't really that fast nor is he as strong as Asura. Kratos gets stomped.
>>122167824Is the novels say he is, then he fucking is. Fucking accept it dude.
>>122157715>man, Kratos should totally fight Asura from Asura's Wrath even though Kratos has never demonstrated any feats as powerful as Asura has in his game>we can use these fan fiction tier novels to wank Kratos' overall power
Do people really think Kirby (and by extension Dedede and MK due to them being near Kirby's level) isn't at least planetery?Kirby gets overwanked a lot, but I thought the "lol 8 inches everything is small and barely equals town level" crap fell out of discourse years ago.
>>122167872Then why didn't he dodge Helios' light attack in GOW3?
>>122167925Yeah I never understood that. This planet has a fuck load of tiny beings like ants and shif, doesn’t shrink the Earth
>>122167925he definitely isn't "takes out Buu" levels though
>>122167911I wouldn’t really call it fan fiction if they’re official
>>122168048Either way, Kratos gets stomped hard by Asura.
>>122168048Let these stupid motherfuckers cope. Who cares.
They absolutelly need to cancel the SnK episode. Please Death Battle, don't give more exposure to that shitshow of a series.
>>122168178Yeah. Have them cope that Kratos isn’t really that powerful and the people behind DB don’t know what to do with Kratos or Asura.
>lex vs doom was not just doom infinite comboing lex
>>122127848Butcher vs Stain is popularHomelander is kind of stuck on not having a good fit power wise besides maybe Brightburn. Every evil Superman overpowers him by too wide a scale
>>122166715There's a lot of similarities between them. Both have dabbled heavily in bioengineering, both have been saved from death by biotech enhancement, both killed the founders of the biotech companies they were involved with for their own evil plans. As of T7 Kazuya has pretty similar fashion to Wesker as well, and another miscellaneous connection would be they've both taken dips in volcanoes.
>>122147590>I need to eat you rawMisread as "I need to eat you rawr" and almost had a laughing fit. God, even "I need to eat you raw" is pretty cringe.
>>122168741I never watched or read the series, but is the ending THAT terrible? I've seen more than a few friends say it ranges from disappointing to utter shit.
>>122168741what happened to snk?
>>122170868Supposedly some of the upcoming ending leaked. They are not taking it well
Who would be a good matchup for him?
>>122171007i dunno probably some xiaolin showdown nigga
>>122112419Gaara not even top tier should just be able to Ninja speed guillotine chop her head off before she can even react.
>>122170944I don't what they were expecting after Eren got decapitated again
>>122168161If you ignore the novels. Which you shouldn't
LMAO oh fuck, right, Attack on Titan, shit, 'SNK' makes my mind immediately go to the old video game company.
>>122171160Fucking kek Yeah my bad. I should've typed AoT instead
>>122152803>Actually speaking of which for early Spidey he didn't really beat a lot of his foes through outright strength, just staying alive long enough to figure out some bullshit. Like with vulture he won by making something to nullify the vulture's tech, not by beating the shit out of himkino
>>122168741Now i get why Eren vs Shinji, their series ending caused a meltdown
>>122171134Kratos still gets stomped by Asura with or without the novels.
>>122171601And Shinji can't even win that ep anymore because Eren knows the future years in advance. He wouldn't show up to the fight.
If there's no Lord of The Rings or Wheel of Time fight this season I'm figuring out Chad's address and sending him a strongly worded letter refuting his claims of being a 'fantasy nerd.'
>>122168741>>122170766>>122171601>>122171673Wait, context? Is the ending to Attack on Titan really THAT bad?
>>122172009Apparently everything with Eren is all because Eren and Mikasa were too autistic to just fuck each other. Also everyone is still gunning for Eldians so nothing is solved
>>122172080So nobody stops the titans? The war is never resolved? Mikasa doesn't get to fuck Eren?
>>122114380>this feat alone BTFOs the entire Avatarversea bijuu dama should've done the work
>>122172216 Eren is just a lifeless head now. She can grind on his head if she wants to though.
>>122172216The titans are gone. It's just now Paradis doesn't have titans to help them when the rest of the world comes to ass fuck em. No Mikasa doesn't get to fuck Eren and just sits by a grave. Also Eren is a bird now or something?
>>122171647Nah he’s not strong enough
Seems like DB has greenlit to make Mikasa lose.Decapitation please.
>>122152491Kirby beats Dedede's ass on the reg, though
>>122172398You're right. Kratos isn't even strong enough to stand in the presence of Asura.
>>122123703All that is meaningless because a writer can just change the result on whim, regardless of circumstances. That includes the writers for DB.
>>122153215>Link gets to be an amalgam of every single Link with all of their knowledge and items and training and has Z-Targeting even though that's a game mechanic and not a power.That character now exists now though, Hyrule Warriors Link.You're right it was bullshit at the time though.
>>122127848Gaara should have fought Tremor.
>can create a sonic burst that reaches temperatures of over 8,000 K which is way above the estimated temperature of the sun's surface (5,772 K)Planet level???
>>122157644Superman beats all of them.
>>122116764>and didn't realize how strong it really isDude, the high tiers of Naruto could make Aang look like an utter joke.
Cable should've fought Trunks, I know it's not better but I think Booster Gold was a worse choice. At least by the time the episode was written Cable had ROM THE SPACE KNIGHT'S SWORD
>>122171719Gandalf VS Dumbledore will happen eventually, unfair as it is.
>>122161925Are you fucking retarded? If she didn't destroy the mirror then what the fuck did she do then? Explain the mental gymnastics on this one.
>>122161640NeverKeep in mind this is the show that featured Elfen goddamn Lied before Terra or Gilgamesh or Lightning or whoever else you wanted
>>122173804VS Wiki would probably put this guy around star level, yes.
Reminder she did it first
>>122116273>Hellboy vs Devilman>Izuku Midoriya vs Gon Freecss>John Constantine vs Raidou Kuzunoha>Kyle Rayner vs Simon the DiggerThese ones are pretty good>El Santo vs The Undertakerand this one's flat-out genius
>>122182200Better image, idk why it rescaled to nearest neighbor
>>122168741Not going to happen, i imagine if it's after Geese vs Heihachi - work on it is almost done
It does kinda suck if it's Blake vs Mikasa - it's likely to be the first in house 3D DB when DD vs LL and Geese vs Heihachi would be have been cooler.
>>122182268Do get it as from a budgeting perspective they can reuse assets from RWBY locations as well as Blake's model from V7-8
>>122172439If it's Blake vs Mikasa then Mikasa does lose
Naruto is probalby going to get a win in DB since this is the most likely Naruto fight of this season
>>122182200Is that Conan or Hercules vs Sun Goku?
>>122182315I don't want Bleach fans to have more bad blood against Naruto fans because of this shit. Madara should fight Acnologia. This way they won't have to bring SotSP into the battle since it requires a lot of exceptions.Give Bleach a Shaman King character since it makes more sense
In terms of fights that are pretty certain to be happening.Link vs Cloud 2Blake vs MikasaSteven vs StarDio vs AlucardThat's 8 of the 16 fightsFights that aren't confirmed but extremely likely.Madara vs AizenGalactus vs UnicronKool Aid Man vs Randy Savage/Ceral Mascots Battle Royale (one is likely happening)That's 10.In terms of the remaining 6 i am guessing:Black Adam vs Apocalypse (a fight that has been requested for some time - they said there would be less MvsDC but Lex vs Doom was definetly not the last)Cole vs Alex (Highly requested matchup that has been requested for a long time so much so that pepole have memed it)Pikachu vs Jibanyan (A matchup Ben has said he wants to do and Pokemon has had a long history with DB plus the Pokemon Anniversary). Nintendo Kings Battle Royale (Nintendo Kings Battle Royale has had a long history with the Research Team and has been requested for a long time)Martian Manhunter vs Picollo (Long requested Dragon Ball vs DC matchup)Samus vs Master Chief (Haloid is responsible for DEATH BATTLE's start as such it is the matchup with one of the biggest histories)
>>122182439>Nintendo Kings Battle RoyaleBowserK RoolKing Hippo?Who else?
>>122179038Read the manga. She purged her from the mirror. Jupiter cracked the mirror with a punch, but the big final combination attack at the end nuked the witch and repaired the mirror.
>>122182544>>122179038>The Sailor Guardians then went to confront Nehelenia in Elysion, where she attempted to take the Silver Crystal one last time. The power of the Silver Crystal, combined with that of the newly awakened Golden Crystal, bound together by the love of Sailor Moon and Tuxedo Mask for one another, prevented this yet again. When defeated by Eternal Sailor Moon using the joined powers of all the Sailor Team, Nehelenia shriveled into a wizened old woman, not unlike Zirconia in appearance, and, after being sealed inside her mirror once more, vanished completely.Poor Otto having to explain this time and time again to retards. Sailor Moon is a weak universe. Fanboys should take the hint before Zatanna fucks her ass.
>>122182610>Zatanna>Ever not jobbingI'm not even a Sailor Moon fan, but Zatanna's lucky she has Death Battle rules to cover her fishnetted ass because she jobs like a motherfucker. If she was this powerful she should've been the one to oneshot Doomsday like how Dormammu just turned the Hulk into a statue.
>>122182456King HyruleGanon (he's the demon king)King BooProbably some Fire Emblem character idk
>>122167925 >>122167987Most of Kirby's villains are only 4 feet tall.
>>122182732The Aboriginal of Abnormality. The Bailiff of Beauteousness. The Catalyst of Ceremoniousness. The Destroyer of Deceitfulness. The Emperor of Egalitarianism. The Fabler of Ferociousness. The Grandiose of Gastronomy. The Herculean of Heliocentrism. The Imperator of Immeasurability. The Jester of Judiciousness. The King of Kindheartedness. The Lord of Ludicrousness. The Master of Macrocosms. The Naysayer of Negligence. The Overlord of Objectivization. The Prince of Piety. The Quanta of Quantifiability. The Raja of Radicalization. The Sultan of Sacchariferousness. The Taskmaster of Tabularization. The Undertaker of Ultimogenitary. The Viceroy of Ventriloquism. The Wanderer of Wakefulness. The Xanthation of Xenia. The Yardmaster of Yarovization. The Zeugma of Zealousness.THE INDOMITUS REXTHE ALPHA OF ALPHASTHE KING OF KINGSTHE LORD OF LORDSTHE JUSTICIAR OF JUSTICETHE TALLEST OF THE TALLSUPERCHAD THE CHAD OF CHADMORROW superAPEXPREDATORman the MASCULINEsuperGRIPman the CRUSHINGsuperINSURMOUNTABLEman the UNSURPASSABLEsuperINDOMITABLEman the UNYIELDINGsuperAESTHETICman the BEAUTIFULsuperSWOLEman the RIPPEDsuperTANKman the RESOLUTEsuperPHYSICALLYIMPOSINGman the INTIMIDATINGsuperGLAREman the DOMINEERINGsuperJUGGERNAUGHTman the UNSTOPPABLEsuperDISCIPLINEDman the ENLIGHTENEDsuperZENmann the SPIRITUALsuperPOTENTman the VIRILEsuperALMIGHTYman the INVINCIBLEsuperVALORman the DAUNTLESSsuperIMPERIOUSman the DOMINATORsuperINVICTUSman the ETERNALsuperMAELSTROMman the TITANICsuperQUAKEman the SPACE-TIME SHAKINGsuperCOLOSSUSman the LEVIATHANsuperBEHEMOTHman the MASTODONICsuperMONSTERman the TERRIFYINGsuperLORDman the KINGsuperDEITYman the CHRISTsuperAZUREman the LEGENDsuperNOVAman the TRANSIENTMANCHAD THE SUPERSUPERCHAD THE MANMANCHAD THE CHADKINGCHAD THE SUPERLORDMANTHE CHAD OF CHADSSUPERCHAD CHADMANCHADCHAD CHADCHAD CHA CHADENTER SUPERCHAD
>>122182827REMINDER THAT SUPERCHAD SOLOS FICTIONREMINDER THAT CHAD-EL IS UNBEATABLE REMINDER THAT CHAD KENT IS INSUPERABLESUPERCHAD IS TOO STRONGSUPERCHAD IS INEVITABLESUPERCHAD IS FINALSUPERCHAD IS REAL
>>122182456Bowser, KRool and King Dedede
>>122183775They could include Ganondorf but i think it works better with Bowser,King K Rool and King Dedede
>>122183957Isn't Dedede pretty weak compared to the others?
>>122183988Nah if anything Dedede would be the most likely to win especially considering the fact DB had Dedede beat Wario.I beleive it would go:King Dedede > Bowser > K Rool
Alright /co/, who wins this one ?
>>122182200>bobobo vs popeyeHow would this result in anything but rape? All popeye has to his name is low-tier toonforce super strength when he eats spinach and 99% of his fights are against that shitter Bluto. Meanwhile, bobobo is a full-on reality warper who can change the environment and it's rules to his whim
>>122182268>Blake vs MikasaI'd be more disappointed if this fight happens at all, what a garbage waste of an episode. It's not even a good matchup how the fuck is Mikasa suppose to win? She's skilled and has her Ackerman bloodline powerup but at best it just scales her physical stats closer to Blake, who has enhanced physicals, shadowclone jutsu, and a halo shield.
>>122157715The fighting games verse they seem to be not that interestered to study fully are samurai shodown/other snk series and dead or alive/ninja gaiden, the tekken profiles seems composite and rival school is gonna inevitably scale to street fighter, they also need to update dragon quest
>>122180893and she did it better
>>122183775What about the space pirate king?
>>122185633Ridley would be cool though i am not sure if i would put him in this DBBowser,Dedede and K.Rool feel the closest together in terms of similarties
>>122184375I mean, it's definetly the most popular Blake fight and RWBY this season was always kinda likely so.. (and they don't want to do Ruby vs Maka yet)