>little boy falls in love with an older girlwhy is this trope so common? and where do i find more
>>121097449It's an awful premise because the ship so obviously has zero chance of happening. It's ok if it's for one episode, but not for an overarching plot in a show with continuity. The character is just wasting their time for something that they'll never achieve
>>121097558Even worse>Guy gets over the girl>Goes for someone his ageWill there ever be a more cringeworthy moment in animation history?
>>121097449if it was actually common you wouldn't need to ask for more examples
Bart x Laura
Genuine question, is there a femanon version of this?A Ship between a minor and an adult that’s purely fuelled by perversion and self inserting
>>121098350>little girl x older guyyou know well what will happen...
>>121097449Writers/creators having crushes on their teachers in their elementary years is way common. Hell I remember falling in love with one of my teachers in 3rd-5th grade.Ever since middle school/high school I found girls my age hotter.
>>121097449It's called /ss/
>>121097449because all young boys want a girl older and therefore expected to be more experienced to show them the way
>>121097449Because we've all gone through this phase
>>121098350I think there's a manga like this, but it was an elf girl so not pedophilia.
>>121098350Yes but in the west you mostly see this in fanfic.
>>121098350>>121099072Found it "The Elf and the Hunter's Item Atelier "
>>121098350I think it's quite common for there to be an unrequited crush, like a girl crushing on a celebrity, but they mostly have to write it in such a way that the other side doesn't even know about them. Sailor Moon is the one example of someone going all in on this and it's pointed out as creepy all the time when you learn how old Damion is.
It's way too controversial to do the gender swap of this trope
>>121099832Yeah. Notice how whenever a younger female character is attracted to older males it's always played as a gag, like Mabel and the Backstreet Boys knock offs? But whenever its a boy its actually taken seriously?
>>121097449Because it happens all the time in real life. Every boy has had a crush on an older girl. I feel bad for adult women who have to deal with horney children lusting after them. Imagine having to let a child down easy? Imagine if you had to do it all the time? Gross.
>>121099832As Told By Ginger did it but it didn’t go far.
>>121100151Flipping the ages so it's a spunky kid having a crush on a wimpy guy who can't seem to do anything right would be cool when the inevitable gentle rejection scene happened.
>>121100339You wouldn't break a kid's heart, would you?
>>121097449It's cute, that's why
>>121097558>debunks your entire argument
>>121097449because it's common in real life
>>121097578Pacifica should have been Dipper's crush from the start desu
>>121098350>implying there aren’t females who self-insert as the older girl/woman in these ships.More common than one might think...
>>121101478She wasn’t really a nice person at all in the beginning. Before NWMM she would’ve manipulated Dipper if he had a crush on her.
Hilda. It's just a small scene and not really a plot point. Maybe next season.
>>121101935If Season 2 taught us anything about love, it’s that David needs to strike while the librarian is hot or he’ll regret it for decades.
>>121101935There’s just no way they settled on that idea for Kaisa - their original character - purely by coincedence.Either meme magic is real or we need to consider the very real possibility that someone on the writer’s team browses the threads.
>>121103525>librarian witch>meme magicI think we know the answer here.
So what are times an older boy dated a younger girl in cartoons?
>>121098350/sl/ is usually popular with men with beards as John Byrne proved
>>121103613I can’t think of any substantial age difference couples in American cartoons even ones where the girl is older (Wendy never reciprocated, Katara isn’t much older). It’s pretty much only ever unrequited crushes.
>>121103613Shelly in South Park
>>121101935Your real girl doesn't exist anon
>>121101520That's exactly why it would be better.Imagine if instead of simping for an older girl he has no chance with, he simps for a girl his age who takes advantage of the fact. Imagine the shenanigans which could ensue
I wanted to see more of these twohttps://youtu.be/ABMEZ9eTeGk
>>121103613Steven is 16 and Connie is 14
>>121104305But the initial mutual hatred is why the ship ended up working so well.
>>121100160There was also that episode of Braceface that had one of the main characters crushing on her teacher and thinking they were dating.
what're some shotacon trying to catch her prey scenarios
>>121097558What about Ferb?
>>121098350Kids having a crush on an older person is normal, but the whole point of it in a story is for them to recognize that they're still growing and to not get obsessed with someone else to define you.
>>121100151I wish I have a older version of Dipper in my life... why I can’t find one in Commifornia!!!
>>121107913That never actually became canon, did it?
>>121101478>Pragmatic, adventurous ghost hunter immediately catching feelings for some random rich girl who despises him and his familyIn what world is this an improvement
>>121101478Dipper x Pacifica is nice because he wasn't crushing on her from the start. They got to have some character interactions that wasn't just "he likes her", which was 90% of the interactions between Dipper and Wendy
>>121109855It actually did.
>>121103613Mabel and Gidian
>>121108268I think OP’s contention is that they would like to see more wish fulfillment stories where the younger guy actually succeeds at getting the girl. I’ve mentioned that age gap stories are more common in fanfic and romance novels and the age gap isn’t just used as simple wish fulfillment but is often explored as a point of conflict for the characters to overcome together. In the context of kids media I don’t think these kinds of stories should be oriented towards them but I understand teens and adults being interested in these stories. I will always be weirded out by how small the age gap between Wendy and Dipper is though given how it is treated like such a freaky impossible crush.
>>121111992I actually think it was treated as impossible because Wendy just wasn’t attracted to Dipper, no matter what age he is.
>>121112049That’s fine but I don’t think it was well communicated, I don’t think it should be surprising that people think the show pushed the age difference as the reason they couldn’t get together. Sometimes people just don’t click or aren’t mutually attracted to each other and that’s ok and equally fine a lesson to show to children. It makes sense though Dipper is a total manlet. In the context of relationships with age gaps Aang and Katara is an exception. I think they way they chose to go about it is interesting (especially that they got together) but I didn’t think it was especially well done. I do think that was the writers inserting a personal fantasy into it. I wish Aang had had a chance to really win Katara over and surprise her with his budding masculinity (I wish there was a better phrase) since she had shown attraction to macho types but it never really came together. Ironically the show strongly suggests he could have been a total ladies man too when he isn’t trying so hard.
>>121100947We're only talking about western animation...not that you're entirely wrong or anything.
>>121097449>>121097558It's not about creating a ship it's about telling a story a lot of people can relate to.
>>121111992Try pitching a show where a 12 year old boy's love interest is a 15 year old girl and see what response you get. I really don't understand why /co/ doesn't understand that the age difference for where Wendy and Dipper currently are at in their lives is a big deal.
>>121112566If this was meant to be realistic, Dipper would have never even attempted to make a move on Wendy, and instead would just keep it in his masturbation fantasies
Dipper was such a dick to Robbie
>>121112631I don't remember Dipper ever actually trying to make a romantic move, he would just try and come up with odd excuses for them to hang out. Wendy only found out about his crush under a stressful situation.
Because most of the time the girls who fall for boys THEIR age are usually unredeemable mingebags.
>>121097558It having zero chance is what makes it charming, it’s like when you had a crush on a teacher or baby sitter, it’s supposed to be cute, but most of these fuckers think it’s hot so now it’s been tainted
>What do you want, weirdo?
>>121100368she would blackmail the fuck out of you with that kiss
>>121103525>that someone on the writer’s team browses the threads.>>>/x/
>>121112619There have been examples in this thread, of relationships with that kind of age gap (Aang and Katara). I don’t think it works best in modern day settings but in fantasy or historical type settings it can work out, and while they aren’t super common these kinds of relationships do happen in real life. If the Western animation industry was bigger and oriented towards a wider variety of people I don’t think a show aimed at teens with a young couple that has a small age gap is unthinkable. Wendy and Dipper shouldn’t have gotten together but the age gap or his attraction towards her isn’t that weird or creepy. Personally I think Hirsch originally intended Wendy to be older, like 16-18 where the age gap would have been much more obviously insurmountable but Disney made him age her down. I’m a bit lenient on the ages because Dipper is an example of where you have a character experience a birthday before the ‘love interest’. He starts the series 12 but ends 13 while Wendy is 15 throughout. I don’t think Wendy was wrong to think she was too old for him but characters like Mabel acting like Dipper was a creep didn’t sit right with me.
>>121101478Disagree, it's better to have a relationship Start from nothing then to slowly but surely develop over time as the more they interact.
>>121098350I never read it, but I heard that Twilight is a romance between a 17 yr old girl and a 100 yr old man who happens to look like a teenager.
>>121097449>>121097558I forgot, how old were they? My mom is three year older than my dad, so Dipper still may have a chance.
>>121097449>why is this trope so common?Because an overwhelming number of guys remember getting attention from an older girl/woman when they were kids and realize ‘man, if I wasn’t young and stupid and completely oblivious to all things sex when I was that age I would have totally tried to tap that’
>>12111545912 (about to turn 13) and 15
>>121103932>Shelly's 13>Skyler is 22Jesus
>>121097449Because it's common in real life.
>>121097449I wish I wasn't a virgin.
Only small dicks jerk off to ss
>>121115459>>121115578I have that same age gap with my boyfriend, I don’t think it’s that weird. Dipper is gonna need to hit a growth spurt soon for Wendy to ever be attracted to him though.
>>121116891>Dipper is gonna need to hit a growth spurt soon for Wendy to ever be attracted to him though.I imagine he will, only to find Wendy has hit her lumberjack growth spurt and still towers over him.
>>121098350Never heard of Johnny Bravo?
>>121115459He definitely has a chance. My mom is five years older than my dad and she met him when he was just a middle schooler.
>>121098350>>121118273Johnny Bravo and Little Suzy had a strong vibe into that.Also, can someone post that picture revealing that Dexter and Dee Dee's parents are actually Johnny and Suzy grown up and married?
>>121107913To be fair that was more played as an occasional joke rather than a wholeass overaching side plot
>>121116891>Dipper is gonna need to hit a growth spurt soon for Wendy to ever be attracted to him though.Why are women so superficial?
>>121112049Didn't younger Wendy call Dipper pretty or something when he went back in time?
>>121118557Yeah, 5 year old Wendy told Tambry she thought Dipper was cute, and the show tried to present this 7 year age gap as equivalently 'creepy' as current Dipper's 3 year age gap
>>121118464>revealing that Dexter and Dee Dee's parents are actually Johnny and Suzy grown up and married?THE WHAT
>>121118576So instead of presenting Dipper’s crush as being impossible to be reciprocated regardless of age, they insist that the age gap is the deal breaker?
>>121118628Funny thing is, Dexter's Dad and Johnny Bravo do share the same voice actor, Jeff Bennett.
>>121097449Wendy is a fucking retard to think that a two year age gap would make it impossible for them to be together
>>121097558It definitely couldve happened, theyre practically the same age. Alex is a hack
>>121118692If she waits too long for Dipper to get older he’s going to lose interest in her by that point.
>>121097558There is literally nothing wrong with an age gap of 3 years. A friend of mine once saw a youth photo of both his parents in the 70s - his mom was 6, while his dad was just 1 years old. Compared to that, 3 years is a joke.
>>121118692She’s just not attracted to 12 year olds
>>121118761Dipper turns 13 by the end of the show
>>121118810Well he looks like a 12 year old
>>121118817He looks like a 6 year old crushing on a woman in her mid twenties.
>>121097449Because little boys get crushes on pretty older girls. Babysitters, friends' sisters, sometimes even older family before you realise its gross. Wendip wouldn't have worked because it was a preteen having a crush on a young adolescent with her own life. So they just stay good friends in the end. It doesn't matter if the age gap is like three years, middle-schoolers don't date high-school girls.
>>121118761>She’s just not attracted to 12 year olds>not liking shotasWhat a cuck
>>121098350this happens a lot in shoujo anime, most popular example is Usagi/Mamoru where the latter is college aged.
wendy has a hairy penis
>>121120852I would suck it.
>>121118692The two-year gap thing was overplayed but Wendy wanted to date guys her exact age.
>>121115404He was only a few hundred years old. Not like that's much better but he wasn't ancient.
>>121109842The real-life Dipper lives in California. You have a shot since he's in an open relationship
>>121098350Young girls lusting after older guys is such a normalised and widespread thing that no one really talks about it
>>121118635>>121118576>>121118684Ironic because Hirsch was in a sexual relationship that had an age gap of about 13 years. Dipper dating Wendy who is two years older than him: not cool. Hirsch fucking a girl who was probably 12 or 13 when his show came out: cool.I don't even care about what Hirsch did since it was consensual and she was of age, but to come down as hard as he did on Dipper while he bangs teens in real life seems a bit hypocritical.
>>121097578Roadside Attraction truly was a stain on this show.