Why aren't people given the mutant vaccine along with the other vaccines they received as a child? This was a preventable incident.Would mutants brush it off when a mutant gene activated and it killed all the mutants in the vicinity?
>>121089843Is Kitty a sociopath?
>>121089843>Why aren't people given the mutant vaccine along with the other vaccines they received as a child?Because that would be eugenics>This was a preventable incidentTo an extent>Would mutants brush it off when a mutant gene activated and it killed all the mutants in the vicinity?Chances are that mutants or kids with the X-gene died in that explosion
You can't medically eliminate genetic factors in people....Yet.I'm looking forward to the next issue of New Mutants because it looks like someone is finally going to address the Johnny Fivedicks/Chainsaw Hands Joe dynamic among mutants.
>>121090010You are beautiful just the way you are. You don't need to take the mutant vaccine.
You only need 3 things: >precog>cerebro>telepathCerebro finds them, Precog finds out their power and Telepath lets them decide if they want it or not(and is able to shut down their power if they decide).
>>121090010Speaking of actual freak mutants, what was the reason the X-Men never scooped the Morlocks out of the sewers to give them a nice place to live on campus?
>>121091720Majority of them were ugly abominations that didn't meet Xavier's standards of how mutants should look and didn't have the qualification to be a member of his X-men.
>>121089843Because the mutant gene is dormant until a metabolic shift activates it. Sometimes it happens at birth. Sometimes it happens after death.
>>121091745Which is stupid, because we know for a fact that there are kids at his school who have bullshit powers like "I can hear butterfly thoughts" or "I'm just a 6 foot owl now" who get protection but aren't expected to be out on the frontlines as X-Men.
The x-men were a mistake
>>121091720Because the Morlocks know Xavier's school is just bullshit and will gladly keep what little pride they have by staying away from his cult.
>>121091977Nah; taking them so goddamn serious and ditching that they were going to be the explanation for where all superpowers in Marvel came from due to Stan Lee not wanting to waste time coming up with wacky origin stories.
>>121089905For sure. She literally doesn't see the humans in those town as sapient creatures worthy of consideration just because they were main sequence humans.
>>121091963Tag's powers are based WTF? With a bit of tweaking it could be insane>Power to touch somebody and make everyone in a mile's radius want to and try to kill themThat's honestly a cool power
>>121092056Which is wild, as the whole point of here character for a while was "the kid who calls out people on their bullshit".
>>121090126How the fuck did Marvel manage to create such a detestable group of people all while telling us that they were the good guys?
>>121091963>BlowhardOk so is the pipe a mutant or is he
>>121092137If X-Books weren't up their own ass all the time, it would be the pipe.
>when eren "kill em all" yeager is somehow more understandable than your average mutie
>>121091720The morlocks, in canon, by their own admission, prefer living in the sewers. It's weird, it's nasty, it's fucky, but the X-Men didn't press the point and kept enough in contact with them that they showed up to try to save them from Scalphunter and the lads during Mutant Massacre.
You guys know you can just be like "marc guggenheim is a shitty author" and ignore this one pager from whatever random anthology? Also now the Morlocks have a town in like Arizona to just chill out in
>>121090126But Kitty pride insists that mutants are human. What happens when two fundamentally different strains of mutant apologia come into conflict with one another?
>>121091720Because the X-men are hypocrites
>>121093042oh no no no what a shitshow
>>121092786>eren commits genocide>is shown to feel remorse about it and even wants to be stopped by his allies, he just knows it's inevitable that there's no other way>beast commits genocide>shows no remorse, immediately builds concentration camps right after
>>121093306iirc Beast didn't know he was killing sentients
>>121090126Dani being the mouthpiece for trash talking normal humans is so wrong.
>>121093042How did this get resolved?
>>121093314Beast legit nuked a city in Secret Avengers and caused the death of countless humans in one of the recent X-books.
>>121093387X-men told those mutants that they are fine the way that they are and that they didn't need the vaccine. Which was also what they told Beast when he wanted to take the vaccine.
>>121093420Who gave the X-Men authority to choose for every mutant?
>>121093403oh yeah Beast has hilariously become the mutant Henry Kissinger and despite missing good Beast I do kinda love it. i just wanted to clear up the one war crime. and i may be wrong! I said iirc
>>121093443The author/word of godYou and your hideous deformity are perfect the way you are. You shouldn't be bothered with the burden of choice, the X-men will decide what is good and bad for all mutants
>>121091963Just give then a FN-FAL, who needs superpowers real mugga hours. Cyke(or any C-list mutant really) could lead his own squad of MSDF, using his bouncing beams to clear nests.
>>121093443The Writers and the X-Men themselves.
>>121093420I'm glad one of the mutants in Hickman's New Status Quo is calling them out on that BS.
One thing I'd love to see Hickman do is reintroduce the Hope Serum or Have Dr Amara Pereas Mutant Cure be created, as well as inhibitor chips being discretely produced. Because I think he could a write a really good point/counterpoint arugememt revolving around the Hope Serum/ power dampeners and Nulifers in general. A philosophical debate about the pros and cons about them. The discussion about the political, Sociological, ethical effects of them and why whether or not someone wants to use them should be left up to the individual.
>>121094238Has anyone ever confronted them about that?
>>121093042This shows that the existence of a mutant cure isn't inherently bad.
>>121094327It'd be a good way to write off certain characters without killing them off. And under a good writer it would be an interesting story
>>121094335I'm not sure I think so. But I'd love to them Called out on it in this run.
>>121094348That it is especially characters who want to be normal. And yes it would be a Hell of a interesting story one that I think Hickman could pull off. He did so with explaining in depth why Mutants are treated the way they are compared to other superpowered beings I see no reason why he couldn't pull this off either.
>>121093330That was really dumb of Dani to say.
>>121093481/co/ has already sugeested in the past that the C/D listers basically become either the groundskeepers at the institute or form pseudo teams just to keep in contact with each other. Lepidopterist is probably the staff bookkeeper and Hoots is probably on needs-to-be-dragged -off-panel duty. No one's going full IRA when getting caught means getting tortured by machines built to hassle Wolverine.
>>121089843dunno
>>121089843being a mutant is cool. fuck off you flatscan joke of an evolution
>>121090126well, yeah. and she got reprimanded for saying that
>>121091720because morlocks didn't want to be x-men. with that said, both X-Men, New Mutants and Power Pack were regularly visiting morlocks and helping them out whenever it was possible
>>121093387they got vaccinated and lost their powers
>>121094348>>121094420not really, been there done that and also because such character would be useless. becoming normal in marvel universe = no more stories for you nigger, except a throwback
>>121089905>Is Kitty a sociopath?worse.
>>121089843Its almost like mutants being entirely biopunk was a huge fucking mistake and what causes mutants to trigger should have more of an x-factor like the old days.
>>121089905Acab includes x men especially kitty
>>121091720The X-Men immediately invited them up out of the sewers but the Morlocks had a 'too much, too soon' thing going on.>>121091963Yeah once the school opened to the public people immediately got confused at the difference between a student and an x-man despite the books making it really clear eight million times. who knew.
>>121090126thank you Mr Rogers <3
>>121090010Putting braces on it was Oh fence iv. A real slap in the face of the dentally unaligned.There really should be an X-foe or team who use the cure in weapons, it could be a serial killer, slasher type of story.
>>121089905Shes legitimately just a terrible person
>>121093150Ah yes north scottsdale
>>121093306>Beast commits genocide, no remorse>Beast commits another genocide still not remorce>Beast commits another genocides...
>>121094335villains and nazi tell them they are wrong all the time. those fucking evil shits.
>>121090126>dat lineworkThese days anything just gets published, no editorial no questions
>>121093479>>121096542There was the time he endangered the time-space continuum and changing history just to give the middle finger to Scott, instead of you know a traditional middle finger or snitching his location to Captain America if he really wanted to mess with him.
>>121095978Not Necessarily.
>>121089843But i want superpowers fuck you
>>121098473And that's fine, but not everyone else and if they do they may want nothing to do with them. And if that's what they genuinely want then that should be their choice .
>>121091963Cypher's power stupid? That's literally one of the most useful powers any character has ever had, it's just not that useful in combat, but it's god tier outside
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>>121098531>I didn't want to be born male! >I genuinely want to be a woman it's my choice!
>>121098637Well yeah, that's free will. Also that allegory is very flawed.
>>121098473even if it’s something dumb and shitty like some of the selection over here? >>121091963
>>121093443You know how Jesse Jackson is the king of black people? X-Men are the kings of mutants.
>>121100325>Jesse JacksonWho?
>>121100342Sorry: Reverend Jesse Jackson.
>>121100425Who is that?
>>121100589The new prince of Wakanda.
Anyone ever seen the overlooked 1980's Twilight Zone? I know everybody knows about It's a Good Life so having a kid with omnipotent powers is a seriously bad scenario, but what about a mentally challenged kid that can manifest objects from seeing it?There's a great episode (co-written by George R.R. Martin) called The Toys of Caliban. It's about an elderly couple with a son in his 20's. He's mentally challenged but has a terrible power of bringing anything he sees from TV, pictures, whatever he can visualize. He can't bring living things however. He tried to bring a puppy once from TV and it ended up dead. His poor father has to bury many dead things that his son brings. How does the X-Men deal with this? The mentally-challenged son never goes outside and his parents board up the windows as well as took away the TV and locked up books, magazines. They carefully give him picture books of inanimate objects that won't cause any harm or trouble. So you have someone with a powerful form of manifestation yet they lack the mental faculties to properly utilize it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsoUp06CqdcThis is the 80's Twilight Zone I'm talking aboutI mean, if Franklin Richards wasn't a well-adjusted kid with a strong family, he could very well end up like Anthony Fremont from It's a Good Life. A petty tyrant that can fuck over Universe 616.
>>121101105Isn't that kind of what Reader from the Inhumans was? They blinded him so he wouldn't create uncontrollably, so he uses his powers through Braille and has a three-per-day limit.
>>121091963Slug isn't a mutant, he's just really fucking fat.
>>121089843if there's a mutant vaccine there should also be a human vaccine, or a black vaccine or a white vaccine, or a straight vaccine, or a no-powers vaccine or a cancer vaccine.If they're at a point where with a single injection they can remove a mutation from peopel that gives them superpowers they should be able to do anything on a genetic level really. Change one's race, gender, sexual orientation, give them powers or even turn them into other animal species. And to cure cancer of course.It's a dumb plot point because it makes the whole concept of superheroes pointless.
>>121091963maggot is a great power. He can destroy literally anything, that's a great ability, and he can give himself superstrenght and durability. It's an extremely useful power. Cypher would be broken if comic book writers realized that dna code is a language.
>>121092050it was a pretty clever thing too. Why do humans in the marvel unoverse get power from radiation instead of cancer? Because they have a genetic predisposition to superpowers.
>>121089843They actually tried that but Dark Beast made a counter vaccine airborne virus that killed any mutant children the moment they where vaccinated so as a precaution no parent is willing to risks vaccinating their children now.
>>121101105well they sort of had to deal with that problem with Proteus and Jim jaspers, and in a way with Legion.
>>121103426He should have made a human vaccine instead that combines with the mutant vaccine. If it's a mutant then the original mutant vaccine devolves the mutant to baseline human. If it's a human the combined vaccine devolves them from human to monke.
>>121103628It was his twisted way to prevent the use of the human developed vaccine to preserve mutant kind... but you know Dark Beast is fucked up so...
>>121103426Something which is easily solvable when individuals like Richards, Doom, Stark, Pym, and T'challa exists. Dark Beast is dumber than Beast who is dumber than those 4 mentioned.
>>121103816I think turning humans into monkeys is more fun than simply making people explode.Imagine you have a baby, you give them a vaccine to prevent them from turning into a mutant, and you have to raise some chimp analogue
>>121089913>Because that would be eugenicsUuuuuuhhh how?It's not going to prevent anyone from breeding.Also,If there is even a small chance per each mutant to go nuclear randomly upon actication then the only ETHICAL choice is the removal of the x-gene.
>>121103869None of them would try to erase mutants though. T`challa is married to Ororo (or was) and i am pretty sure he is pussy whipped. Pym is crazier than Dark Beast and last time i checked he is at least half Ultron or something. Doom wouldn`t do it unless there was some kind of profit in doing so...
>>121103246Not if you have it written by the right people.
>>121104333T'challa would do it since it would affect Wakanda as well. Doom would do it just to prove that he can. Pymtron does it because he wants to pretend that he is a hero.
>>121103426Well now that Dark Beast is dead, they could try it again.
>>121105819Only Reed at this moment would use it for it's intended purpose. Although he may still use it on Mutants who like their powers depending on how pissed off he is at Xavier and Magento.
>>121105819Doom would do it just because he feels like that, but he wouldn't really care about how it's used.
>>121103426Now that the Bastard is dead dead. They could try the vaccine again or at least talk about doing it.
>>121091963Gimme dat Stacy-X
>>121090126Reminder that she's 13 and she isn't one of those mutants like Beast whose power make them look weird. She's a localized reality warper based on dreams/nightmares that trapped herself in a nightmare bubble after accidentally killing her parents and warped her own body.
>>121106413The Hope Serum/Mutant Vaccine would have definitely helped her.
>>121090126Even if you believe that bullshit, her appearance isn't natural. She accidentally fucked herself up with her regular powers. How is that different than the depowered mutants who lost their shit because of wanda. Hell if I'm not mistaken she isn't even trying to not be mutant. She just wants to look like she used to with her mutant powers.
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>>121106936Okay sure. But still the choice should be public knowledge
>>121106798It's not, it's a different side of the same coin. And something Dani should understand because she was one of the 90% Mutants Scarlet Witch Depowered. And yeah it's understandable she wants to look like how she used to, but besides the crucible the only other way is by being Depowered.
>>121106798Counter-Point Dani probably also doesn't want to beat a 13 year old girl to death in the bloodsports arena.
>>121107186That too. Yeah she can be brought back but still, it's not something you'd be comfortable doing.
>>121091963>Tar BabyNo fucking way that ones real.
>>121107095It's not a choice. If you are born a mutant, you're a mutant.
>>121089843>90s Storm, Rogue, Gambit, Colossus, and Iceman>New X-Men Cyclops>70s Kitty Pryde>AoA WolverineWhy?
>>121090010>You can't medically eliminate genetic factors in people.>...Yet.Yes you can actually, its just extremely expensive and requires gene editing technology. Gene Therapy has been a thing for a few decades, also.
>>121096868>who cares about the image if the lines arent perfect and neat and tidy and drawn with computerized perfection!Bet you hate Ashley Wood too.
>>121091963>Tag>Maggott>Ink>Johnny DeeGive these guys to Hirohiko Araki and they'd be fucking awesome.
>>121101105Isn't he, thought? I thought the csnoniczl reason for people always coming back to life and the sliding timeline is because Franklin enjoys being a kid in a world of superheroes and wants it to last forever?
>>121103246The difference is that mutant powers literally come from an extraterrestrially implanted gene that can be removed to render someone not a mutant. Its not actually a vaccine that messes with regular human genes like something along the lines of CRISPR; it just turns off an auxiliary implant.
>>121106413>Reality warperGuess that’s why they don’t want to de power her, she’s a potential super weapon
>>121108637Exactly so the existence of a mutant vaccine isn't a bad thing.
>>121108906Dying and being reborn wouldn't get rid of her power imagine her power is pyromancy the current situation is that she has third degree burns over her entire body and wants to get reborn to fix the burns now that she can use her powers without lighting herself on fire.
>>121107643>If you're born with a bad heart just do nothing and dieI know you think you're getting over on the trannies but you're not
>>121108637Isn’t the x gene from a celestial who died inside the earth? The x gene would still be evolution
>>121111504Aaron's bullshit retcon ain't canon.
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>>121111504In one universe it is.
