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Let's see how Evan's first arc ends
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>>120254767
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>>120254767
how'd you get this?
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>IDW Sonic
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>>120254783

>>120254787
via Discord friends
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>>120254811
>image in a storytime
You're the newfag in the Future Stare threads today, aren't you?
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>>120254863
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>>120254863
I enjoyed that pun
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>>120254882
fuck Nu-Shadow
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>>120254882
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>>120254908
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I thought this was cancelled?

Impressive.
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>>120254908
Omega once again cements his place as best Sonic character.
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>>120254939
Archie was cancelled in 2016
This has been going on since 2018.

It's not cancelled, but every issue gets delayed. I don't think a single one has come out on its original release date in the past year.
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>>120254925
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>>120254970
>I don't think a single one has come out on its original release date in the past year.
It feels like that's all IDW books, not just this one.
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>>120254977
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>>120254996
I don't read IDW books other than Sonic, so I wouldn't know.
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>>120254999
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>>120254947
For how much longer are we going to keep pretending being a constant comic relief never doing anything meaningful equals to being the best character?

For real, how can Sonic fags think shit like this is good?
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>>120255022
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>>120255031
Omega is consistent, probably because SEGA doesn't care about him as much as they do Shadow.

We get a character we like be who he is instead of morphed into "worse Vegeta"
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>>120255054
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>>120255031
>For real, how can Sonic fags think shit like this is good?
The standards a low, some even think the Freedom Fighters were good characters.
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>>120255076
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>>120255096
interesting that IDW does different coloring for Shadow. Archie just inked the guy.
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>>120255135
>That doesn't look like wannabe to me"

is "Wannabe" a character?
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>>120255135
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>>120255164
There's a lot of shit in Sonic that isn't "fine."
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>>120255159
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>>120254908
Am I being a brainlet or what did they cut the ropes with
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>>120255177
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>>120255191
not shown.

Probably spy shit?

not exactly a good look for an artist/writer.
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>>120255113
It's all about artists.
I think this is a new one for this arc.
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>>120255221
>new one
Evan's done stuff for IDW before. She's done stuff for Archie, too.
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>>120255226
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>>120255226
hm... for some reason the jump from "Workshop" to "workshop" seems a bit quicik
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>>120255159
Starline's entire thing is stupid levels of planning. Why is he doing this near 6+ people instead of just isolating and kidnapping Tails?
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>>120255267
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>>120255210
it was at the end of 35
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>>120255289
And that's it for now

Tune in next month (hopefully) for the start of the Test Run arc, which actually seems interesting

Thoughts on Evan's first IDW arc overall?
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>>120255289
That's even worse! Just speed in and grab some hairs off his pillow or something.
Thanks for the Storytime Anon.
>>120255311
Bad Guys was good. Not the main comic, but the possibility is there.
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>>120255289
>steal quills/fur for sciency purposes
Hey... that's Jimbotnik's bit!!
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>>120255191
>what did they cut the ropes with
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why the fuck does shadow have to be vegeta but before he got character development. its so annoying
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>>120255354

Because Sega.
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>>120255326

>>120255354
His stupid solo game happened
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>>120255371
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>>120255326
Those background faces have an eerie Chronicles' vibe... or am I seeing things?
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>>120255326
I'm curious whose idea was it to make the two tube dudes in Starline's lab--Ian or Evan?

Is she building up on his plot, or did he introduce hers?
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>>120255395
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>>120255397

Not for another five issues.
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>>120255371
>>120255366
but even in his own game and a little afterwords he grew as a character and was more than literally just android saga vegeta
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>>120255371
He got character development in the Archie comics years after his solo game came out (ShTH came out in 2005)
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>>120255326
>Thoughts on Evan's first IDW arc overall?
It was OK, not that great.
What did Shadow even contribute to the plot? The story would have been nearly the same without him.
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>>120255429

>>120255441
But Sega doesn't care about Archie
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>>120255439
Well, Sega wants to move on from the 3D era and ignore everything that happened in it, apparently.

But don't worry, in a week they'll change their mind. Than again a week after that. And so on.
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>>120255449
he got to be shadow the hedgehog. hes h*lla Fr*ckin awesome
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>>120255478
Shadow hasn't been Shadow for a long time
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>>120255350
>That non-mentioned detail from the prior issue
Not only lucky bastards but way too sneaky and poorly implimented for most people
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>>120255326
Garbage because I hate the Chao. They are garbage characters that even Sega got rid of. Literal eternal baby creatures and babies are shit. And I will never understand the obsession that idiots have with the Chao raising bullshit that was very slow to get the emblems in Sonic Adventure 2.

This comic needs to die and soon. Since I don't care about Tangle either I have no interest in the next arc.
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here you go, anons. The reading order.
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>>120255289
Starline had
>Rouge hypnotized
>Tails captured
and all he got was fur for his evil plan
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>>120255449
He didn't do anything. I'm sure the original pitch for the storyline had Sonic & friends helping Shadow/Rouge repair Omega, but mandates decided that Shadow doesn't have friends or help anyone so he kind of just awkwardly shows up alone looking for a fight instead. The comic writers need to just give up on Shadow; popular or not, SEGAutism is never going to allow them to utilize the character in a way people would like.
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Reminder that 06 producer ( Masahiro Kumono ) is long gone from the company ever since early 2008. After 06 happened, he only got a special thanks mention in the japan exclusive PS2 port of Nights, and then dissapeared from the gaming industry for quite a long time
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>>120255520
I think Bad Guys should come before issue 33.
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Ok but we'll still get Starline/Tails porn right
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>>120255593
There's yet to be any Rouge/Starline porn, so probably not. Hopefully some puppet gal, though
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>Team Dark was a mistake
Change my mind
Hard mode: Don't use Archie and use only Game info for sustaining your case
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>>120255159
>Tricore Starline utterly destroys Shadow in their fight
>Belle oneshots Tricore Starline
Belle >>> Shitdow
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The problem with Sonic as a franchise is that it's a franchise that's Shonen, but not allowed to have any of the things that make a Shonen engaging. There will be no endings, only new beginnings and reboots. There will be no consequences because potentially dealing such a story development can hurt the marketability of the franchise which is for kids.

That leaves you with a franchise that's going nowhere and fast. Sonic's pretentiousness finally caught up with him. Sega ensured that Sonic is not interesting. And worse than that, Sega ensures that Sonic is lousy in both story AND gameplay. You can only afford to drop storytelling if you got good gameplay like Mario, but that's never been Sonic's situation. Sonic is fucked thanks to incompetence in all areas. And don't expect the sequel film to be that successful either.

Man this is one franchise that needs to die already. It's stagnant and cannot do anything right because of incompetence and also not being allowed by Sega. It's fucked, let it die. Stop trying to fix this damaged brand.
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>>120255615
Wonder if she's meant to be his new Cosmo
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>>120255615
... i'll keep this in mind... but won't happen any time soon.
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>>120255661
Yeah, I don't get that whole sequence, why did his tricore thing just turn off?
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>>120255656
Team Dark is indeed a horrible idea. Shadow is fine, but works more as a one shot. Still he can work long term. Rouge on the other hand is indeed garbage. She's not likable and only furries who need to be castrated like this pile of shit character who is a thief. Never liked the Catwoman stereotype one bit, Catwoman has always been one of the shittest Batman characters and Rouge is just another copy of this godawful stereotype. And Omega is just like Gemerl a very pointless overpowered character that because he's so mighty and strong he's not allowed to do anything so his strength is honestly pointless (after all the franchise is called Sonic the Hedgehog, can't have the main lead overshadowed).
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>>120255664

>The problem with Sonic as a franchise is that it's a franchise that's Shonen,

Indeed. It should be a comedy.
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>>120255675
I don't think they've committed to anything just yet. But even if they don't, they can get away with killing Belle off because she's just a robot. Mandates can't stop them.
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>>120255728
>It should be a comedy.
It's been done. Several times in fact. It hasn't stuck. Truth is nobody actually wants funny Sonic.
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>>120255768
People sure loved Mania Adventures. And Boom. And the two issues of Mega Drive.
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>>120255687
>Try to kidnap small child, expect him to struggle and scream as you drag him away
>He starts groping some girl's ass instead, perfectly calm and staring you in the eyes
>Hey wait a fuckin minute is that thing a puppe---
He lost focus
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>>120255675
Why can't they give him 1 permanent girlfriend? Why does it always change and why is he the only one to get them? Do they think he'd be seen as gay otherwise?
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>>120255195
amy pullin' out them traditional sonic-stalking techniques
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>>120255787
>People sure loved Mania Adventures.
Not a comedy.
>And Boom.
/co/ loves it but the show flopped.
>And the two issues of Mega Drive.
Not a comedy.
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>>120255728
Sonic Boom's cartoon is successful......but the central comedy of Sonic Boom's cartoon is saying how SHIT the franchise is and how shit the fans are. What does that say about everything relating to Sonic? Not a good property.
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>>120255793
>good Sonic threads
They exist?
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>>120255803
>Tails
>Small child
When will this meme end
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>>120255326
It didn't take a year to resolve so that's a plus in my book.
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>>120255395
that bottom right art's actually really good
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>>120255787
Classic Sonic to me is a cancer for this franchise. So all of a sudden now Classic Sonic is this mentally challenged mute who cannot speak? Sonic's point is having attitude so forcing him to be a mute who needs Classic Tails to speak for him is shit.

And Mania only succeeded because after years of mediocrity people were starving for anything that reminds them of Sonic's old glory. Sonic Mania is a half assed effort because you got new stages and OLD ones as well (tweaked but still old stages to bank on nostalgia). You cannot rely fully on nostalgia forever as that shit hurts you and eventually your customer realizes how stagnant a franchise really is. And Whitehead is no longer working on Sonic anything so forget even seeing a new Classic Sonic game that's fully original for all stages.

Sonic has no future and even if Sega announces remakes of Sonic Adventure games? Remember that's nostalgia. It's not going to save the franchise. Sonic is not like say Ratchet and Clank which always found its universal main perfect gameplay to keep repeating forever. Sonic has always been wonky and unreliable in 3D. And after many decades it's safe to guess that Sonic has no future in 3D. And if he has no future in this arena? He's effectively dead. And no, I don't believe Sega when they said "Sonic Forces sold well!"
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>>120255326
>Tfw Tangle and Puppet girl are going to be the lesbian couple while Tails gets cucked
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>>120255808
Because for anything "permanent" to happen they'd need to introduce someone in the games themselves to pair him with, and SEGA stopped developing sidecharacters after 06. Hence he's usually the only one of the main male cast left unpaired, so they create OCs to fill that void. No, they can't use Cream for that, because SEGA are aware of how controversial loli shit is and don't want any more controversies, which is why she wasn't in TSR.
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>>120255924
Tangle is in a game now. She can't be in a relationship.
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>>120255868
hes 8
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Starlien is growing his own Agent Smith in those vats to finally put Shadow out of his misery
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>>120255940
So was Sally, and that didn't stop her from going out with Sonic.
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>>120255691
>was
Wait, he got got? I'm not on /co/ much, but he was nice to talk with.
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>>120256020
Sally was never in a game. An icon of her cameos in a decades old mini game that no-one played. Tangle is playable in a modern game.
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>>120255940
Shoo shoo, Idwtranny
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>>120256020
Yeah, then Sega put the kibosh on that real quick. Now game characters can't date, Amy can never like anyone but Sonic, and Sonic can never return her affections ("it'll ruin their dynamic").
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>>120256039
>in a decades old mini game that no-one played.
And was made by Americans, so thats even more reason for Sega of Japan to ignore it. Buncha spiteful, xenophobic assholes.
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>>120256020
>So was Sally,
do diaperfags really? and she is purple there lmao
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What's your idea for a Sonic comic story arc?
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>>120255808
He's the only "single" mainline male character so they usually throw some pussy at him for drama points.

Can't do Eggman because he's the main villain, Sonic's got Amy, Shadow's got Maria's ghost, and Knuckles has a threeway with Rouge and the Master Emerald.

I mean you could also try Big the Cat but he's fucking froggy as far as I know.
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>>120256141
No wonder Sonic Team refuses to hire them again.
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>>120256155
Eggman has had Katella, Thunderbolt, Witchart, Metamorphia & Ella actually. It's the same thing as Tails who has Cosmo, Zooey, Perci and Barby but none of them stick around or go anywhere.
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>>120256216
It's sonic fucking spinball. Of course no-one played it.
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>>120255982
He's also flying and maintaining a plane, getting with multiple girlfriends, and is part of the world-saving duo
Him being "8" like that's human years is a meme
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Someone's been teaching Cream swear words!
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>>120255289
I'm confused.

Is Starline trying to clone Tails?
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>>120255691
He’s a faggot attention whore that needlessly textdumps word vomit. Fuck off and stop enabling him.
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>>120256278
He's been growing something in those vats since back during Bad Guys, so it's not Tails specifically.

Starling's based off a Knuckles glitch called "Wechnia" and he was intended to be part of a trio of characters. Wechnia was also the inspiration behind Finitevus and that other White Knuckles villain from Fleetway. Some anons think he's collecting DNA for growing the two other game glitch characters - Ashura and a true Wechnia. Or at least that's a theory. It's probably not Tails specifically.
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>>120255326
>Thoughts on Evan's first IDW arc overall?
Started out interesting, quickly turned to crap as soon as gay duck was re-introduced as a “serious threat”.
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>>120255728
Secondary western cartoonfags get the rope. Sonic was always Shonen.
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>>120255449
I think sega hates shadow and only uses him to create tension to make characters more likable than him after they prove him wrong thus stealing his opportunity to be likable and interesting. Hes literally a hype tool to interact conflict and look bad in.
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>>120256365
No, thats just one dev showing his autistic love for DBZ. In two sequels to a very cartoony first game.
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>>120256283
This isn't twitter, we need more posters to vomit text to get you faggots to fuck off.
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>>120256311
Wow

That is retarded.
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Here’s a meme template. Go wild
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>>120256346
>>120256409
Shitting out lefty memes level of text dump isn’t discussion.
>being kind to others
Please go back to the website where you came from if you want wholesome heckin homos.
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>>120255326
I wish shadow had his own series. Hes wasted here.
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>>120256454
>Top: Mania
>Bottom: Forces
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>>120255052
Sega doesnt care about shadow.
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>>120255076
Sonic didnt need shadow for this
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>>120256519
Bringing Shadow back was an enormous mistake that has yet to pay off in any capacity anywhere.
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>>120256562
This arc didn't need Shadow.
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>>120256579
Most things since Sonic Adventure 2 didn't need Shadow, they still bring him in.

Arguably the only thing that really could have benefitted from Shadow was Sonic 06. The fact that they put him in the Sonic Boom game of all things is fucking perplexing.
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>>120256562
But they needed the fujo audience
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>>120256573
You do not need a 10 paragraph paper in order to talk about a blue cartoon hedgehog. Thank god that faggot is constantly getting banned.
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>>120256656
He’s going to come back later anyways. Can’t really stop rotor chad. He loves sonic threads
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>>120256609
>theses days
Be real, the sonic fanbase was never good. This is about the same level of shit I've seen in the griffith/drummond arguments.

>>120256656
Piss off to twitter then if you can't handle more than one sentence without your brain overheating you illiterate nigger.
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>Threadly reminder that Shade is the best thing to ever come out of Sonic Chronicles.
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>>120256730
Why?

I'm serious, sell me on Shade as a character, with actual things from the game, not "potential" things.
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>>120255923
>Classic Sonic to me is a cancer for this franchise
>Mania only succeeded because after years of mediocrity people were starving for anything that reminds them of Sonic's old glory
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>>120256748
Lmao
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>>120256730
Don’t you mean Julie su?
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Imagine whiteknighting for some avatarfag.
That’s insanely pathetic. He’s not going to fuck you.
You are not even worth my (You)s.
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>all that sallyfags asspain
jesus , just let it go the mistake is GONE and is never going to be back

For the issue it was great , cant wait to see mecha tails
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>>120256751
>A unique OC from a unique setting
>Only other echidna on their world
>Time displaced by thousands of years
>Is tech-savvy and has a connection to Emerl
>Has a full story arc of turning her back on the people she worked for after seeing what they were really like
Also she killed Archie all by herself which is based as fuck
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>>120256856
Sally is still in the comic. She’s just wearing an Amy costume now.
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>>120256894
>only sally can be a captain!
did you forget the part where she said she was bad at it and give the charge to jewel?
also amy acted like amy in this entire arc

and people wonder why others hate sallyfag , legit glad your mistake is never going to be back + sega never gave a shit about archie and satam.
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>>120256155
>Knuckles has a threeway with Rouge and the Master Emerald
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>>120255195
That Amy smile of "bitch I know how to find my hedgehog"
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>>120256579
>>120256641
Shadow exists to emphasize Sonics coolness as the original super speed furry with tude and provide anime fan appeal to his concept.

Plus shadow is the rival that makes sonic become serious and unforunately more perfect as hero of heroes cliche.
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>>120255242
Intimidating Vanilla is best Vanilla
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>>120256942
>did you forget the part where she said she was bad at it and give the charge to jewel?
Unironically yes. IDW Sonic is just that boring. I hardly remember any of it. You can’t even describe Jewel’s personality she’s that forgettable.
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>>120256856
>goes from /sthg/ to here to complain about sally
lmao
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>>120255267
Well, amnesic Eggman made her, maybe both personalities program robots alike?
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>>120256786
How can we save her, anons? How can we stop Penders?
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>>120255656
Team Dark could only really work if they actually went all in on the "ex-villains work to save the world" thing. Instead of being this half-assed secret agent team who does mysterious things, have them be an amoral merc squad that uses govt connection to let them do things however the fuck they want.

And it all starts with letting the homocidal robot be in charge
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>>120256944
>>120256155

Knuckles is gay and a beta cuck. Shadow still drains his balls in Rouge treasure chest because hes a more alpha.
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>>120255289
Oh no, is he trying to create Titan Tails again???
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>>120257032
Go back in time and make Chronicles a sales success.
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>>120257041
Based
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>>120257032
Even if Shade came back Sega would just sideline her like Sonics shitty friends. It’s seriously not worth bringing any old character back for this reason.
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>>120255326
>the Test Run arc, which actually seems interesting
What is it about?
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>>120255514
because tamagochi is cool anon , its relaxing and why shit llike animal crossing sells
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>>120255242
>>120257009
Honestly, I have not really bought the route it seems they are trying for Vanilla, yet.
For me, it seems the guys behind IDW Sonic bought the meme of Vanilla being the series milf a little bit too much, with some of those smug and sexy faces.

(inb4: Yes, I'm aware she didn't really have a personality outside of what we saw in Sonic X, which canonity is debatable, but still)
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>>120256579
Shadow is needed because someone has to be there to rival Sonics coolness and charm and prevent him from being flawless. Unforunately, shadow is not written like this in fashion in this comic.
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>>120257041
t. Shadougefag
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>>120255787
It still breaks my heart the MegaDrive series will never be properly concluded
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>>120256537
I wish, the writers could do what they wanted with him then.
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>>120255664
>>120255923
>>120255930

Is this a Samefag?

Nope. It's Samefag Adventure 3
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>>120256147
Ultron. Tails tries to savage enough tech from Eggman to build his own antiEggman mech/AI but it goes rougue and starts infecting mechas and robots, to the point where it reasons the only way to stop the Eggman Empire is if HE conquers it first
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>>120256579
I wanna say EVERY arc needs Shadow, butbyeah, he was kinda pointless here
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>>120255615
>tfw she becomes the Android 18 to Tails' Krillin.
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>>120257187
Hot
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>>120257055
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>>120255923
Nintendo's doing 3DWorld despite it flopping because of WiiU, I don't think they (SEGA) care all that much
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>>120257172
Well he should be in every arc if he has a tai and matt dynamic, basically the rival who hates like his battle brother, hes replaced knuckles in that role.
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>Sonic /co/ thread turns into Shadowfagging and Shadow shitposting
Every! Single! Time!
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Reminder that Unleashed, Colors and Lost World feel just as disconnected from the series as 06 does. They do have a more cartoony art style than 06, but their settings are still just as unfitting and disconnected
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>>120257211
>He fucks his ancestor so no real problem
>still bangs rouge in the end
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>>120257190
How he be cucked if he doesnt like or love anything.
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Test
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>>120257055
>>120257211
imagine if an hedgehog and a echidna were brothers
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>>120257211
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>>120257251
>He fucks his ancestor so no real problem
Shadikal is the true way of life. Begone, Bat Thot!
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Why are Shadowfags like this? It’s no wonder /sthg/ gave them the boot.
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>>120257309

Another Shadikaler exists?
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>>120255656
06
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>>120257309
Go away cylent
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>>120257304
>>120257251
>Butthurt Shadougefags
Sometimes, it's too easy
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>>120257346
>Sonic 06
Well, given that I didn't play that game, would you be able to elaborate your answer a little bit more?
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>>120257375
Cant we be friends.
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Shadow is both smarter and stronger than Knuckles is
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>>120257373
Not that offensive, shadow does not like being near goof shit.
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>>120257414
Did you watch the episode? The point is that only absolute sissies are made to sit in that place.
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>>120257400
>Cant we be friends
Fully agreed.
Shadougefags and Knuxougefags should not fight each other. We have enough material to support and enjoy our ships, the internet is big enough for both.
We should just let bygones be bygones, chill together... and join forces against the true enemy: Tailsrougefags

inb4: Tails and Rouge scene in Sonic Battle bait
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>>120257395
Team Dark had a good story in it.
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>>120255242
at least one vanilla page
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>>120257344
Unironically, I find them cute together.
The ship may not be possible, nor logical... but I find it comfy as hell.
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>>120257472
Yep
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>>120257473
That scene is badass, but don't really understand the point of Omega and Rouge being there
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>>120257458
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>>120255289
I hope this means we get the Tails Doll instead of a clone.
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>>120257510

I hear ya.
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>>120255242
had to do it

>>120257090
if anything. that might allow them more freedom with vanilla
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>>120257565
>don't really understand the point of Omega and Rouge being there
They're his partners. Through the story they help and support each other.
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>>120256862
Just to complement the information a bit:
>A unique OC from a unique setting
Which was inspired by Penders' Dark Legion and shit, yes. However, it is vastly perceived as a better implementation of the "Evil Technologically-advanced Lost Civilization" trope.
>Only other echidna on their world
By the end of the game, she becomes the only Nocturne to truly escape the Twilight Cage by the conventional method and not the backdoor, meaning she is truly the only other echidna in Sonic world
>Time displaced by thousands of years
Nuff said
>Is tech-savvy and has a connection to Emerl
The latter is a personal favourite of mine, because I love Sonic Battle... just wanted to say it.
>Has a full story arc of turning her back on the people she worked for after seeing what they were really like
Instead of just turning on them out of "love", which may be fine by itself, but not the same.
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>>120256311
It'd be kind of neat if that's what they were planning to do, considering how Wechnia in Knuckles Chaotix is just leftover data from Tails.
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>>120257734
>turning on them out of "love"
Not even love, it was a compulsion their species have because echidnas are too autistic to breed.
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>>120254999

Afew E101s back there.
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>>120255289
HE has the DNA of the chosen one this isnt good
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>>120255031

He says the coolest lines. Don't pop an O-ring.
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>>120256311
>Wechnia was also the inspiration behind Finitevus
Impossible! As any Archie Echidna, he must be an original product by the allmighty Sonic God Ken Penders!
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>>120255113

Archie printed the comics on those napkins you get at cheap restaurants.

They did a lot of stupid stuff.
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>>120257782
He pulls a DOOM Eternal DLC move
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>>120257591
Its not sega that ruins shadow, its the fans.
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>>120255728
Do along, Boco
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>>120254925
He spent the last issue reflecting on how he screwed up during the virus arc continues to make the same mistake that turned him into a mindless zombie.
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>>120255289

Ah, this makes more sense. I don't think he would admit he needed someone because they were smarter than him.
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>>120255371

The soundtrack was good.
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So is Starline gonna start cloning people? Tails and Rouge seems like odd choices to start with if so
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>>120256197
T.Bolt was cute.
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>>120257969
>The soundtrack was good
It is very interesting how that good to great soundtracks seems to be a default for Sonic games standard... even the crappiest ones have good ones (one or two exceptions here and there, of course).
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>>120258002
kek
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>>120257835
Not too different from other older comics. It wasn't dumb, just dated, and it made them cheaper than the other books coming out.
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>>120257051
>go back in time and make sure Ken's agreements to Archie are in a secure location
>everything plays out like normal up till Ken tries to take his characters
Wonder how much he tweeting about foul play if the timeline went like this?
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>>120255395
Jesus Christ Andrea way to be a throwback goddess to Sonic 2.
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>>120256407
Sonic was based on Mickey, Felix, and Astro Boy
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>>120258038
I blame Michiyoshi and BigDad
The former for its spread on nsfw circles, and the latter for working as a bridge between nsfw and sfw circles.
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>>120258113
>Michiyoshi
This is very out of topic, but I've never gotten a straight answer in /sthg/ and the likes before, but who is this Zeta fan character and why some, we could say "important", Sonic hentai artist (Like Michiyoshi or Tojyo) have made art of her? Even include her in some of their doujins!

Could someone redpill about it?
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>>120258198
Zeta is the personal fanchracter of a flaky artist who goes by the same name, is into /d/-tier content and has been in charge of running a bad porn-based Sonic Beat Em Up fangame that's been in development hell for years now, been cancelled several times.
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>>120258113
Well dam, my post got nuked, didn't think the picture was that bad.
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>>120258220
>bad porn-based Sonic Beat Em Up fangame
I remember something about this. Is that why those artists give this Zeta free art and promotion?
Because so far, it doesn't seem to be a commission, but a straight out gift.
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>>120258276
No, she's just well-connected despite her shitty attitude and flippant work ethic.
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>>120254767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOUUS6JIRQ0
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>>120258342
>No, she's just well-connected
Be me:
>Former Sonicfag who was very into fanmade stuff (DA, FA and all that shit) back in 2002-2003 for about 10 years before leaving that toxic shit.
>Met several Sonic artists and even got to exchange messages and have long conversations with them (in Windows Messenger, for Pete's sake)
>One of them is Zeta-R02
>Chill gal, a little boastful, but chill overall
>Slowly see how her character turns from a happy go lucky OC to a cumdumpster for NSFW
>Slowly builds her followers as a character made for lewds
>Get great NSFW artists to make art of her OC increasing her exposition
>Character was not even created by her, it was a gift by her (then?) boyfriend who wrote fanfiction and was a huge Sonic fan
>One time during a messenger chat she admitted she wasn't really a Sonic fan or at least, not a huge fan (Can't really remember, but it shocked me because of how popular she was in the fandom)

I remember she uploaded photos of her a few times in DA. She was actually pretty hot with a nice face, and yeah, if that was really her, then she is as stacked as her fancharacter. I've always wondered if that was the secret behind her well-placed connections, if you get my drift.
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>>120255371
He's actually not an edglord in like 2/3rds of the game, including the true ending.
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>>120254908
Oh, Rouge and Omega, always one step ahead.
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>>120255567
>>120256388
Does someone outside of the games themselves make the Sega mandates or something? In Sonic Forces Shadow is quite friendly with Rouge and Omega and in the recent racing game they are a team again.
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>>120255656
I don't see why. It's essentially just Rouge and Shadow doing action movie stuff while a robot who is easy to please (just have Eggman be your opposition) tags along.
So unless you specifically don't like Rouge being around Shadow, I don't see what's bad about it.
People hate on Shadow (the game) but I actually liked the parts of the game where Shadow and Omega are a duo fighting Eggman.
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>>120258198
Michiyoshi doesnt exist
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>>120258198
>Like Michiyoshi or Tojyo
At least Tojyo made drawings of her OC one time in a hundred... Michiyoshi is constantly making lewds of her (heck, I even think hers is the only fancharacter he draws)... makes me wonder what she did to earn his favor.
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>>120258002

>BattleKukku's taped on eyes

Man, I miss the Eggbosses.

If nothing else, I'd like to see Starline try something with XV and get chucked through the nearest wall.
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>>120255289
>Live laugh love
on point
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>>120255289
MECHA TAILS INCOMING
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>>120255505
>>120255148
>>120255276
>>120255031
>>120255084
obtain sexual activities
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>>120255840
>the central comedy of Sonic Boom's cartoon is saying how SHIT the franchise is and how shit the fans are
Everyone who says this has never actually watched the show. Most of the humor revolves more around referencing old sitcoms and musicals.
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>>120258558
Based
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So whats evwryones favorite shadow pair? Het only.
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>>120258541
Personally, I think Team Dark works better in a business-type relationship between the characters, that can grow into loyalty, but not necessarily friendship.

I don't like when TeamDarkfags starts depicting them as a sort of badass family, with Big Sister Rouge, Angsty Teenage Brother Shadow and Butterfingers Little Brother Omega
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>>120257716
They're really the only good story aspect of 06. The game builds off everything Shadow went through in his own game, and Heroes presenting a Shadow that wants to make good on his promise to Maria, and who also cares deeply about his friendship with Rouge and Omega. They're the only team besides Chaotix that actually SHOULD be together at all times. Knuckles is way too wrapped up in Sonic and Tails these days despite older games giving him his own shit to do, and Amy and Big have basically no relationship despite games pushing them as friends. Rouge, Omega, and Shadow are work partners that genuinely give a shit about one another though. I miss Maekawa I wish he was still wring the games.
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>>120258724
>Personally, I think Team Dark works better in a business-type relationship between the characters, that can grow into loyalty, but not necessarily friendship.
I mean that's pretty much what it is in everything but 06.
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>>120258727
>Knuckles is way too wrapped up in Sonic and Tails these days
>these days
Is he though? I mean, yes, during a period of time after SA2 he was around them a lot, but lately, I barely see him having any role in a story aside from "That gullible friend" (aside from Forces)
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>>120258724
Yeah this. Shadow fans or.mostly try to make him a angsty teenager that needs a grown up to make him more girly and feminine. He should be like Batman or Punisher, a hedgehog with a grim realist outlook and is equvilent to a rough man boomer whos a seasoned solider or hunter.
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>>120258739
>I mean that's pretty much what it is in everything but 06
Exactly, but some reason fans have this idea of them being some sort of "family unit", which not even 06 depicted them as
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>>120257978
Why would cloning Rouge be an odd choice?
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>>120258619
>Wake up Platypunk
>It's time for school.
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>>120258718
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>>120258342
>she's just well-connected despite her shitty attitude and flippant work ethic
Still how do you manage to have well known artists make art for your for fre-
>>120258493
Oh... I get it
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>>120258724
>business-type relationship
You don't go into stasis for 200 years or forsake the world for a business relationship.
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>>120258727
>Maekawa
He writes too many narrative checks he can't cash. Really overrated as a writer.
>Still better than blah blah blah...
Ehhh.
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I wish shadow had good straight nsfw comics.
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>>120258941
Good thing I don't like Sonic 06, then
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>>120255159
is tails molesting that poor sentient sexbot?
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>>120255195
Amy stop thinking about lewding sonic helpless body for a minute
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>>120255289
I hope the clones are hot
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>>120255395
>>120255371
>being such a try hard you send your art in a kid magazine when you are a adult or even maybe a pro
lmao
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>>120255289
Is it time...?
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How many seasons is it going to be?
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>>120259137
>Tails clones
Inb4 Tailsko becomes official
(Pic was the only non-lewd I found in a quick search, damn!)
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>>120259152
I've seen kids who could better
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>>120255096
Shadow should be written smarter than this. And more pragmatic. Working with sonic doesnt have to be a matter s pride but a way to tatically fight back against starline.
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>>120258718
Who woule win in a fight shadow or blaze?
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>>120255096
Good job, idiots. You killed like 20 trees for nothing.
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>>120255267
Jesus Christ, Tails. Put two and two together.
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>>120259231
where?
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this felt unsatisfying. Villain wasn't strong enough, that battle felt weak. I'm sure Amy and rouge could pull a better fight as well.
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>>120255226
This whole arch was complete garbage.
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>>120255405
Never noticed Shade's helmet is formed by the starts until I saw the thumbnail
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I absolutely hated the Sonic comicverse or Sonic in general. But then came IDW. I'd put my Tangle in Whisper if you know what I mean.
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>>120255326
Was good fun. Nice, airy arc before something a little more serious. From the synopsis it seems to be an arc about the gang climbing a tower with different shit on every floor. Sounds interesting.
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>>120257473
Daily reminder that the villain is named Mephiles, is a palette-swap Shadow and a Deviant Art god complex OC, also has no mouth and nose and he must scream and smell.
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>>120256777
This is true and I'm okay with that. The animation shorts are so well done and cute, I wouldn't even identify it with Sonic these days.

We talk about a franchise where one game drops you in Syria or some shit for Stage 1, and where Shadow was a black dude with two Uzis going edgelord on the president (which aged great, actually).
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>>120255615
This is at least a ship that makes sense, unlike Tails/ Cream. Its like shipping a 15 year old with a toddler, yet its official.
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>>120260660
It's fine for a Cream story, but she needed a bit more focus in it maybe.
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>>120261080
>shipping a 15 year old with a toddler, yet its official
>Tails is 8
>Cream is 6
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>>120261108
She seems younger.
I'd fuck both but thats not the point.
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>Cream had several early concepts as different kinds of animals (squirrel, cat, raccoon)
So, is this where Marine came from?

Also: ARE THOSE TOES?!!!
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>>120261122
what is she thinking about there?
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>>120261080
>unlike Tails/ Cream
But Anon!! They are cute!!
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>>120261130
the squirrel and red panda at the bottom are extremely cute. all 4 should be recycled as background characters at the very least.
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>>120261152
>what is she thinking about there?
Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting wonics.
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>>120261159
THAT is true. But I never bought it. Considering his personality, I prefer the older girls hitting on him, actually.

He's the ultimate femdom bait.
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>>120254767
Has it really been three years since Penders ended the Archie comics? Time moves to fast bros
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>>120261210
>Tails is the ultimate femdom bait
Finally someone who gets it.
What is that Tails as chad crap?
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>>120261230
Tails chad is rare. Most smut show him femdommed... well... or screwed by Sonic.

I don't doubt any scenario.
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>>120261288
>Tails screwed by Sonic
mfw when that becomes endgame
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>>120261303
Endgame? That's probably how they started. It would explain Sonic's ignorance towards Amy.
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>>120255267
>Throwing away the apple
>Actually intentionally feeding the Chao
That's a nice touch
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>>120261619
Nuh! My Edgelord Shadow can't be a kind spirit!!
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>>120255583
Bad Guys TAKES PLACE before 33
but if you read bad guys first, you spoil 33-35
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>>120261619
SHHH don't tell SEGA
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>>120255267
Where did this Shadow and (Shadow) Dark Chao meme started?
I believe they've never interacted in other media before.
Was it in a Sonic Channel artwork or the like?
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>>120261962
I guess its just because dark chao are shadow chao, so why wouldn't they interact?
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>>120255031
It's a fucking comic for a blue cartoony hedgehog who fights a mustached bald man that wants to build a giant theme park. A character being consistently amusing is not a knock just because it's used as comic relief.
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>>120261998
Someone should edit a pregnacy test there, just saying
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>>120261080
>yet its official
It’s not though, like at all. They barely even talk.
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>>120262044
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>>120262044
Here's a quick one.
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>>120262044
tried a version with a cleaner view of the "result" area
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>>120255326
it was alright, started off strong but the conclusion was pretty underwhelming. it was paced a million times better than the rest of the comic, it helps that evan can actually write competent dialogue too
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>>120262184
>>120262269
>>120262413
Beautiful... so, who's the father?
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>>120263022
Sam Speed
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>>120263022
Not Sonic for sure
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>>120254882
>Not Interested
>the same hedgehog who sacrificed himself so a smelly lizard wouldn't piss on the Earth so he wouldn't make a little girl sad
ok.
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>>120263022
Rouge
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>>120263103
blame SEGA
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>>120258619
>the BK crew is from the games
>Sega wont even use them again
>even in their silly classic separation
It hurts.
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>>120263252
To be fair, Tails did kill them all.
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>>120255289
if this doesn't lead up to Titan Tails. I'm getting a refund!
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>>120259153
Let's fucking go.
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>Shadow should have died and stayed dead after SA2 and only return as a selectable character in multiplayer games or as a special "skin" for Sonic
Like in pic related, Shadow (and many others) is not even part of the story (nor shows up in story races)
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>>120263022
Knuckles. Turns out Hedgehog-condoms can't contain echidna-dick(s).
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>>120254889
>>120254863
Look at Tails, he thinks that pun sucks big time
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>>120256579
This arc also didn't need the new puppet character either, but they introduced her anyway.
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>>120258718

Tikal
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>>120263649
better have her mixed in a mildly important arc than stopping the story for 5 chapters to introduce her in an "important" way
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>>120258718
>favorite shadow pair
Tikal
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>>120263869
I was with you until the last part calm down damn
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>>120261942
Don't worry, the japanese can't recognize silhouettes.
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>>120261962
>Was it in a Sonic Channel artwork
Yes, along with the girls' outfits in this arc.
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>>120264363
Is that from the Archie reboot? I kind of like Snively not being related to Eggman. Also, he's lying here, isn't he?
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>>120264410
Yes to both
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>>120256454
Top:
>One world
>Unleashed / Black Knight writers
>Unleashed / Generations artstyle
Bottom:
>Two worlds
>Pontac and Graff
>Forces / pseudo Lost World artstyle
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>>120262059
I talk about Sonic X.
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>>120261130
squirrel design is really nice
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>>120264683
Anon, Cosmo was with Tails in Sonic X. Cream was paired with Bokkun.
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>>120264363
does anyone have the full story of this anywhere? I can't seem to find a copy of those digests online
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>>120264363
Is SEGA licensing that stupid or do you think they were like "okay, fine, that TECHNICALLY meets our requirements?"
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>>120261942
>not realising yet that this was the point all along, that Shadow acts like aloof edgelord but cares inside but pretends not to, and Ian just exaggerates what they tell him because he's tantruming he's got to write the character as intended
SEGA knows exactly what's going on on this page and it's what they specifically want. Compare it to Shadow in Sonic X for the best example of how this is how they always wanted Shadow.
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>>120258517
Ian got told to have Shadow be more on the "silent broody acts alone" end of the spectrum rather than the "wolverine bud dark violent but very emotive" end of the spectrum and instead of going "got it" he's just been exaggerating how "Shadow has no friends". Same way how he says "Sega says there literally exists no money in Sonic's world" despite Evan saying "no they just told us to avoid using money because it raises awkward questions, but it exists."

So never believe mandates, because they're not outright lies but so long as the main source is Ian, they're heavily distorted in how we get told about them.
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>>120265009
tails.kicks-ass.net
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>>120265255
Oh, good!
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>>120256311
Good post except for the Fleetway thing. You're overthinking it and applying modern fandom to early 1990s. Zachary's just white because he's an old echidna, nothing to do with the Chaotix glitch.
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>>120258724
Congratulations, you understand what's so difficult for Ian to understand.
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>>120265026
What do you think, anon? Considering the questions of what characters can be used are legal and bureaucratic, do you think they're just stupid or did they go "this doesn't infringe on the license you don't have, so go ahead"?
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>>120265401
It's fucking SEGA. They get pants-on-head a lot of the time, so its hard to tell.
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>>120255940
Game characters can be in relationships, they just can't stay steady. Something will have to break them up. That's why Ian gave up putting Sonic and Sally in the reboot, the drama would never end.

Only Amy can't outright be with anyone, because she can't get with Sonic but also isn't allowed to be attracted to anyone other than Sonic.
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>>120265440
Stop being an idiot who thinks they're above everyone else like Ian is and think. Modern and Classic are separate licenses. The reason some characters can't be used is because they have access to one license but not the other. The page shown hides Eggman in shadow so he's recognzable as the classic design but doesn't explicitly use him, thus not breaking the license and being allowable with some goodwill from the licensors.

So, what's most likely to have happened, the licensors approved it because it technically doesn't break the license and they even wanted to help the comic convey what it was trying to, or the licensors are idiots and didn't notice a very obvious reference, but you do because you're so smart?
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>All this whining and complaining about Shadow.
>All he did was act a bit rude (like he always does).
>People missing that the entire arc had a theme of relying on other people and that Shadow's involvement was meant to mirror Rouge and Gemerl's own mistakes.

At this point I'm convinced the people who whine about Shadow don't care what he's actually like in media and will cry until he's the smartest, strongest, nicest guy in the comic.
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>>120265469
>Game characters can be in relationships, they just can't stay steady. Something will have to break them up. That's why Ian gave up putting Sonic and Sally in the reboot, the drama would never end.
Archie was years ago, anon. Sonic couldn't be with Sally nowadays, he was only allowed to back then because the licensors were acting with giving Archie some goodwill. This isn't Archie, it's IDW, with licensing being a lot more involved. Characters can't be drastically changed from their game portrayals, since this is a comic about the games. Is Sonic in a relationship in the games? Does that match his character?
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>>120265026
Do you really not understand that corporations are not monolithic entities and people within them may not agree with certain regulations and only follow their job to the letter?
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>>120265194
Basically.
I mean even in Evan and Ian's own comics they're allowed to depict Rouge and Omega as clearly being closer to Shadow than other characters, he just has to be a little pouty bitch because that's who he is.
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>>120265570
Ian literally had Shadow whine to Rouge about fucking up as a Zombot at the end of the arc and Sega just went "keep that monologue, but make it thought, he wouldn't actually say it out loud openly".

The whole mandate amounts to "Shadow doesn't actually talk much at all" and Ian's been having a bitchfit about it ever since
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>>120265598
I wouldn't categorize it as a bitchfit but he doesn't do well with being told "don't do X." You could see this all the way back nearly a decade ago. Instead of reconsidering the story or characters based on things he's told to stay away from, he does makes exactly enough changes to get a pass and then says he was forced to write it that way. It's like how he got bodied so easily and acted like a moron during the Zombot thing. He could have had a much cooler fight or not been as annoying and it probably would have passed just fine, the thing that got rejected was "Shadow goes all out and then jobs to nameless zombies."
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>>120265662
Maybe. I'm just starting to lose goodwill with him. His constant priming of his fanbase with "sega forces me to write Shadow terribly!" caused Evan to be lambasted when previews of this issue came out, and Ian didn't even show a care. In trying to save his own skin from the consequences of being shit at dealing with a license/being spoiled from working with a license with abnormal conditions, he's throwing everyone else under the bus.
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>>120261942
Sega is fine with Shadow being nice to a Chao.
Sega does not want officially licensed images of Shadow doing nice things that can be spread on the internet and change perception via memes.
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>>120265697
That's being way too accusatory at apathy. You can criticize him for not giving enough of a shit if you like, but it's not like it's some sort of active engagement from him. Chances are the other artists/writers wouldn't see it that harshly either.

Dude's bad at self-reflection and enacting strategies to better his work and himself as a person, it's not like he's antagonizing anyone.
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>>120265772
I know, just. After a decade of this, at what point does repeated apathy become intentional ignorance?
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>>120258233
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>>120265794
Never. The same probably applies to you, anon. Most of us are blind to our biggest faults. If he's the kind of person who's especially blind to the way he does things it might just be that he'll never really grasp it. It's not that big of a deal, it just means his writing is held back a bit and that he's slightly inconvenient for other people. Worst you could say is that he uses some lame writing crutches and encourages far more annoying people.

Seriously, there's far better things to be this angry about. Dude's just a bit of a dumbass.
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>>120258977
Something something cursed by god not to have a normal hetrosexual fandom or praise and invest in masculine aspects of his character that make him a self insert wxtension of sexual intrigue with and artists ideal of male domanince over women. Dont worry thet are going to hell for this slight, shadiw is one of the manliest most het guys in fiction and it makes no sense for him to be depicted gay by fans as a indicator of his popularity.
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>>120261159
They have no dynqmic together but cute kids
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>>120265876
I'm less actively angry and more so just tired of it. I understand, or try to, Ian's point of view- you get praised for doing something 15 years, then get told to change how you do it because of two drastic changes in corporate outside of your control, then get blasted and blamed for the new way you have to do things, when you just want to do it like how you were praised, dammit, etc. Makes total sense. I just stop sometimes and feel like, if I can afford the goodwill here, why can't he see the shitstirring he causes and go "maybe I should shut up"? I know "never assume malice when you can assume stupidity" but I also don't like thinking he's an abject retard
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>>120261230
You mean shadow, most of his activ a te popularity is fangirl appeasement than male. Sonic tails and knuckles have the most active male fandom and self insert fans in fanart/fanfiction.
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>>120255267
so what's the deal here, she was made by Mr Tinker?
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>>120265979
>>120266047
Shut up about fucking Shadow porn already, Joe. You're an autistic embarrassment to this entire fandom.
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>>120266053
Yes
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>>120263022
Shadow, he finally figured out that repopulating the planet his seed with women and allowing his off spring to protect the world at his blessing is how he can make maria happy.
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>>120266053
Yes, they're not quite trying to hide that to the audience, more just to the characters. She's got Tinker's colors, she's named Belle (as in Tinkerbell), she's "Belle the Tinkerer", she can read Eggman code which only certain Eggman robots can. She just refuses to admit she's made by Eggman because Eggman's bad, and Mr. Tinker was good.
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>>120265507
This
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>>120266157
>(as in Tinkerbell)
Geez I can't believe I didn't realize that
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>>120259646

Despite his intelligence, he's still just a naive little kid
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>>120254977
What are her good boots like?
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>>120265194
Rouge and Shadow should be more emphasized. To the point rouge is the closest thing to maria than anyone. But Rouge has to be more than that, something that shell die for more than even knuckles and his master emerald. And im talking about the ship tease.
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>>120255037
A cute Amy.
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>>120266094
>You're an autistic embarrassment to this entire fandom.

Your always this though, the entire sonic fanbase is.
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>>120266027
He's a sperg, anon. Have you not seen how incredibly stupid most anons in Sonic threads are, and how poor of a grasp they have on anything that isn't a direct A > B train of thought ("what do you mean this isn't the writer or Sega's fault?")? He either has a hard time thinking that way or doesn't care. If it ever becomes an actual problem for someone, they'll confront him about it. Evan's kind of spergy too and has her own social problems, she's just more aware of how fandom reacts and her flaws as a writer due to her experiences.

If you're upset at how he carries himself or how he writes, send a letter to the publisher. Tell them you love Evan's writing or you want to see fresh faces writing stories because the comic is boring you. Believe it or not, publishers actually listen to fan feedback, especially smaller ones like IDW.

Harping on the fact that Ian does stuff that indirectly harms both the book and the fandom won't help anybody and just breeds the same kind of vitriol and stupid kneejerk bullshit that his sweeping statements do. If you're upset about it, be better than him and abstain from assisting the fans from creating yet another strawman to scream at.
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Does anyone get the feeling Ian and Evan dont specifically like shadow as a character perioid. Not in a top ten sonic character way either.
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>>120266298
>And im talking about the ship tease
And that's why you'll always be disappointed, because SEGA rightfully don't care about pandering to your mentally ill shipfaggotry.
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>>120266400
Ian likes the idea of Shadow having a character arc where he becomes a better person over time, which makes sense given both what he likes writing and the media culture he grew up in. The 00s were HUGE on the idea that characters "growing" meant the writing is good. Problem is Shadow becomes boring when you do that. Ian already milked fan pleasing interactions using him for all they were worth at Archie, so you either rerun Shadow and friends having Hallmark moments or you keep him static and write stories around that. He isn't allowed to do the former and doesn't wanna do the latter.

Evan seems to like Shadow plenty, she's just finding her feet as a writer who isn't fully in control. The whole arc is a bit awkward and characters read "safe," you can feel her grasping in the dark to really get what is and isn't okay for them to be saying and doing. If she didn't care for him she wouldn't have included him.
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>>120266400
My impression is that Evan likes Shadow but has difficulty writing him professionally. Ian doesn't hate Shadow, but doesn't get Shadow.
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>>120266529
Fuck me for writing this wall of text,
>>120266566
just said the same thing in two sentences.
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>>120255135
I want more Amy and Rouge fighting together.
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>>120266400
More like Ian doesn't know how to write him with all these new mandates.
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>>120255195
Lotta good Amy faces this issue.
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>>120266566
> Ian doesn't hate Shadow, but doesn't get Shadow.
He does, or at least he did back in the Archie days. Now he blames the arbitrary mandates for Shadow's characterization
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>>120255226
Tails works fast.
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>Story ends 3/4 into issue instead of halfway or needing entire extra issues for epilogue
>Climax is something other than "and then it exploded/the villain runs away"
>Cliffhanger reserved for finale of arc instead of being teased every issue
It gets points just for that.
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>>120255289
CAN YOU FEEL THE SUNSHINE?
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>>120266711
>he made a reference!
Nah, anon's right. Ian's Shadow was pretty far off the mark. He doesn't get why Sega makes the suggestions they do or how to keep Shadow cool while staying aloof.
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>>120263022
There's absolutely no way she didn't turkey baster some sonic goo.
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>>120266616
If it helps, Evan herself admitted the difficulty and people have been saying Ian hasn't gotten Shadow for a while now.
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>>120263447
true
I just wish if they did use shadow it would be in his own story but they keep proving that they dont know how to write his character.
for fuck sake people its not SA2 anymore
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>>120266529
>If she didn't care for him she wouldn't have included him
Hes not even a featured character in the preivew page, i dont think she has showed as much interest in him as she does rouge.
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>>120266416
Behave
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>>120266711
Ian doesnt like Shadow in comparison to Sonic and Knuckles though.
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>>120266762
No.
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>>120266898
I think we need a japanese man or at least a professional reknown anti hero writter to pen shadows character from now on.
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>>120254767
man, despite people shitting on sonic these threads go by pretty fast huh
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>>120266935
Don't you still have a twitter account to be crying on, Joe?
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>>120266967
Yes
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>dude cream loves tails!
>dude tikal loves shadow

there is no worse fanbase that those two lmao
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>>120267229
Refer to >>120257510
Literally noone's said either
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>>120267054
No
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>>120267317
Wrong pic?
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>>120267054
Shadow beats ed, so crash easily dies
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>>120254767
test
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>>120267344
Shadow has no love for maria anymore, your memes are getting stale.
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>>120267344

Mighty? He's as gay as a two dollar bill.
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>>120258608
Tojyo draws his own faggy timestop OC, that's why.
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>>120267346
Reality says otherwise
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>>120267375
>>120267390
You're right, no sense using them when Shadow gets cucked by everyone
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>>120254863
Man the art has gotten WAY better in these comics since the Archie days. Props to the new artists.
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>>120267475
It's the same artists.
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>>120267537
Isn't this Adam Bryce guy new?
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>>120267436
>>120267454
Shadoe doesnt like anyone so he cant be cucked. Rouge is a loose slut, hell kill her afterward.
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>>120267546
He'd started working on Archie towards the last year or two. That said he's been improving a lot, much like Evan.
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>>120267623
More like he'll try to kill her, will get beaten up by her and then start crying and throwing a tantrum
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>>120265710
>Sega does not want officially licensed images of Shadow doing nice things that can be spread on the internet and change perception via memes.
Kinda a moot point when people make porn of "bedroom eyes" sonic and immediately think Sonadaow when they see Sonic and Shadow together on the roller coaster.
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>>120267779
Nice shadow cucks crash and kills her.
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>>120267779
That's honestly the best you can do, Joe?
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>>120267846
Hey fool I just fucked your sister
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>>120267861
nice headcanon. Sorry to remind you of the truth, but canon Shadow's a little pussy bitch who couldn't even beat Starline
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>>120267903
You sure about that, Joe? I remember your autistic Tumblr account suggested much otherwise.
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Starline is cool, kind of wished he was with eggman a little while longer. They had a good dynamic
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>>120265491
>The reason some characters can't be used is because they have access to one license but not the other.
Except they had access to classic Eggman from before.
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>>120268066
When the license wasn't yet considered separate between classic and modern, and even then Ian's talked about how they had to color Sonic's eyes green.
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>>120265697
It's not Ian's fault people didn't believe him about Shadow and thought Evan was going to magically make him different. There's some people here who tried to argue that til the last issue.
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>>120265507
>act a bit rude
>disregarding the lives of innocents is a bit rude
Sometimes I wonder who's the Shadowfan here when you guys will excuse anything he does.
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>>120266798
>Ian's Shadow was pretty far off the mark.
why?
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>>120257458
>Reverse image search
>Is not porn
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>>120268136
I remember that. "Evans will be the second-coming of IDW because Ian is Satan" was the dumbest attitude and clearly born of a hate boner.
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>>120266529
>Problem is Shadow becomes boring when you do that
Incorrect. Ian-ized Shadow was probably his best incarnation since SA2.
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>>120268066
This page was released during Sonic Generations, where Classic Sonic was still seen as the past

>>120264363
This page was released while Mania and Forces were in development, and in those games, Classic and Modern are two separate things.
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>>120255656
I honestly preferred the idea of Rouge and Shadow staying teamed up with Eggman for their own reasons (Rouge because profit and chances to tweak Knuckles' nose and Shadow because he thinks the doctor's dream of unifying the planet is better in the long run). It'd be a stretch so Team Dark is okay. They were fun in Sonic Universe.
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>>120268764
Anyone who follows Eggman is a retard
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>>120268764
I doubt Shadow would gbe happy with a totalitarian dictator, since Maria was killed by abusers of military power.
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>>120268845
Like I said, it's a clumsy idea. Shadow would either have to play angel on Eggman's shoulder or subvert his plans.
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>>120255439
06 Isn't cannon. What other games are you even talking about, Rivals? Non canon. Black Knight? Not even really him. Lego Dimensions? Not canon to the actual games.
Last canon Shadow was ShTH.
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>>120269122
you are a drunkard
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>>120255664
>Sonic's pretentiousness finally caught up with him.
Yes
>Sega ensured that Sonic is not interesting
Yes

Because?

He stole from other shit to be "successful" as a shonen series instead of being a good series that just so happens to be shonen

>but that's never been Sonic's situation.
Classic era gameplay proves otherwise, it's just that normies and bad players aka storynignogs
are too brainlet to understand and enjoy that.

Sonic doesn't need to die, SEGA does. Or really Sonic Team. They need to banish everyone that touched Sonic for longer than 20 years but shorter than 5 because they don't get Sonic anymore. It has to be fans to make Sonic good again. But only if you make sure you hired the right kind of fans for your series. Pick your poison, and stick with it.
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>>120255808
He's 8. He needs to age up to at least 14 before it won't look problematic.
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>>120269122
>Rivals? Non canon.
Says who? That's how Sonic and friends met Silver post-06.
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>>120255923
>Thinking 3D is tah future like my hecking early 2000s marketing told me would be!
Fuck off. 2D since the 1900s has always been the real future. It's objectively always been the best

FFS, would you even give a shit about this comic if all the art was 3D shit? I rest my case.
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>>120256020
Not the same, Archie forced shit behind SEGA's permission. IDW is a real Sonic official comic.
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>>120268136
>>120268650
>Shadow fanboys trying to create a narrative
The point from the start was that this was all leading to Shadow swallowing his pride and doing the right thing - which he did. People said Evan's writing would likely be better than Ian's because she has restraint - and it is. Don't start with this bullshit by exaggerating what was said and then poking holes in the exaggeration.
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>>120268330
Reread the post.
>He doesn't get... how to keep Shadow cool while staying aloof.
He's so stuck on "dude, arcs" that he needs to have Shadow "become a better person" and "lighten up." He can only write Shadow as a developing person, not Shadow as Shadow.
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>>120269795
I've been following these threads for a while and can assure you there is no "narrative" or "exaggeration" here. It happened, was ridiculous, and predictably wrong because this has been the same boring slog as before. People pretending there has been some kind of improvement are delusional.
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>>120269600
Both are real official Sonic comics. If they exist, then they were licensed and approved by SEGA's supervision.
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>>120269600
>Archie forced shit behind SEGA's permission.
No, the crying Sonic cover has nothing to do with your fabricated misinformation, just to say this ahead
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>>120269600
>Archie forced shit behind SEGA's permission
That never happened, though? SEGA always oversaw Archie Sonic. In fact, it was literally thanks to them Sally didn't die permanently in Endgame.
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>>120269908
>this has been the same boring slog as before.
If you seriously think this is the same as the last two arcs where the same 20 page story would repeat on loop, you have no sense for writing at all.
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>>120269996
Boring slogs come in multiple formats, anon. Please feel free to point out the concrete writing improvements in this arc other than "it's shorter," which I agree that it mercifully is.
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>>120269889
>He's so stuck on "dude, arcs" that he needs to have Shadow "become a better person" and "lighten up."
Except his Shadow arcs in the reboot had nothing to do with that. He was already a good person, albeit with some edges. He did the right thing without having to be guilted into them.
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>>120269795
>The point from the start was that this was all leading to Shadow swallowing his pride and doing the right thing
Uh-huh, sure. I wonder how many ties he's going to learn this lesson before you start seeing the pattern.
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>>120270102
Gonna have a good laugh if a page similar to this is done again with Shadow plus some other character.
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>>120269600
>Archie forced shit behind SEGA's permission.
Yuji Naka sending a letter to the comic says otherwise.
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>>120270271
Google can sell your data because you agreed to it in an agreement, does that mean you consciously said "yeah do that" or know what they're doing?
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>>120255226
Tails got game I see
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>>120270411
Tails got got
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>>120270411
Tails is dead.
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>>120270363
... yes? Because it's in the contract, which you can read and spot the conditions, before agreeing? Never heard of "Privacy policy"?
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>>120270453
Are you telling me you've thoroughly read every single contract you've signed to use an online service?
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>>120255371
Shadow was in character in 06 and Battle though
I'm guessing they have no idea what to give him how to justify him appear constantly so they throw his character out of the window, like with Knuckles
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>>120270424
I thought you went back to twitter, Joe? You still here?
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>>120269600
>IDW is a real Sonic official comic.

Yeah, and look where this gets you.

A Mediocre comic adaptation of a mediocre franchise.

um....hurray for brand consistency?
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>>120269468

Well, they were never released in Japan. So even if they are canon Japan doesn't care about them.
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So I'm hearing all of these posts about how Ian's shitty output on this comic is his form of sperging out due to SEGA taking away most of his toys and putting the rest in bubble wrap, only truly expressing himself through his OCs.

Now why does that sound so familiar....

so how far is Ian away from becoming the new Penders?
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>>120259646
To be fair Belle keeps denying they are the same person, when maybe him and Sonic are considering Tinker and Eggman the same in their head. But it's weird writing for them to not point out something so obvious.
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>>120269923
False.
>>120269940
False.
>That never happened, though? SEGA always oversaw Archie Sonic.
FALSE
>>120270271
That's not "overseeing" SHIT you dumb ass retarded bastards. I guess the Sonic Movie was 100% under SEGA's control the entire time? No, it WASN'T. The original rights were with Sony, Sony fucked up and made the Emogi movie, gave Sonic to Paramount, meaning 99% of creative vision and control fell entirely on Paramount, not SEGA. It was only because Paramount backpadeled hard as fuck after the entire planet told them to fix the fucking shit Sonic design did they hire a SEGA employee to fix their shit in.

Same applies to ShArchie. It was entirely American made and only "endorced" by SoA because they wanted that comic to exist. That isn't the HEAD of SEGA, which is SoJ exclusive. SoA and SoE are just branches of the big head SoJ. Otherwise you're saying Sonic the Comic and Fleetway Sonic is ALSO canon and official. Which it fucking ISN'T. It has nothing to do with Sonic. Just a fanon version of it, no different from the Paramount movie Sonic.
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>>120270768
Because Sonic was never good dumb mutt. Your diaper shit comic isn't special, it's gay ass low IQ soap opera shit.
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>>120255242
>>120257661
What will Vanilla do to them?
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>>120271510
Ask if she can watch
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>>120255242
Art was very nice in this arc
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I kinda wish Cream had had a better showing here, given Cheese could've legit just solo'd the giant bear robot.
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>>120271420
Now this is autism.
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>>120255096
MY SUPER LASER PISS!!!
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>>120271420
>meaning 99% of creative vision and control fell entirely on Paramount, not SEGA.

Well that explains why the movie was actually enjoyable by normal people and not just fat nerds who jack off to Nazo-X.

>blah blah blah Not muhcanon blah blah autism blah blah superior Nippon folded over 100 times

I can't tell what is worse:

A faggot who gets triggered when other people aren't interested in dick riding a souless corporation as much as they do

or a WEEB faggot who only gets off on said corporate dickriding just because the company is from Japan?

No one is worse than you

>>120271450
>AntiArchieAnonAutist is back

Nevermind. I spoke too soon.

Mmm'wah! Good Night Everbody!
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>>120255267
Shadow just went from Namek Vegeta to Cell Saga Vegeta, nice.
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>>120272237
>Well that explains why the movie was actually enjoyable by normal people and not just fat nerds who jack off to Nazo-X.
>>blah blah blah Not muhcanon blah blah autism blah blah superior Nippon folded over 100 times
>Mutt Mutt Seethe Seethe
Not the point. Look, you hate Japs, I hate SoJ too, just because I'm "defending them" doesn't mean I like them. What I'm getting at is just because Sonic fucked a munk in a SoA comic doesn't mean IDW, a SoJ comic, wants their mascot fucking anyone when his character is purely anti romantic.

Also next time use less Reddit spacing faggot. Point is I don't care about American Sonic comics, they are dogshit just as bad as Shitdow's game and 06. Only the classic games were the only time Sonic wasn't autistic trash. And just so it isn't about muh Nippon, Mania is the best one, which is non Japanese made.
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>>120255656
Team Dark should've been Shadow, Rouge, and Chaos like it was originally planned for Heroes. Rouge is the only voice escorted by her body guards.
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>>120272501
wtf Chaos was planned to be in Heroes? Never knew
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>>120255930
> SEGA stopped developing sidecharacters after 06
Please don't consider Zavok to be a main character.
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>>120256454
Top
>New Sonic Game
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>Bad Game Review
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>>120272236
This is all your fault.
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>>120256987
Shadow is the main rival because there's no way to make a good Knuckles vs Sonic fight anymore. Sonic is too overpowered. Then you got Silver who overpowers Sonic.

And Metal Sonic is a boring rival because he can't even banter with Sonic, making him seem like the biggest jobber in the whole series.
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>>120261031
Mephiles did the clone war thing better than Infinite though.
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>>120258755
Remember when Sega had Sonic Unleashed' plot revolve around Gaia Temples and restoring the chaos emeralds? Where was Knuckles and the Master Emerald during that time? Oh wait, scrapped along with Shadow.

It's really stupid Angel Island isn't a stage in Unleashed.
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>>120272678
Fucking saved.
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>>120272501
That wasn't the plan though? The preliminary teams (which as far as we know might not even have ever been implemented in-game and have just been names in documents) had Rouge with Amy and Cream and Shadow not appearing at all. Chaos was with Big and Gamma.
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>>120272856
>Where was Knuckles and the Master Emerald during that time?
In a different planet?
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>>120272959
There is one angel island per planet
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>>120272940
I thought on paper it was going to be like Sonic Advance 3 where you choose your team members. Only certain combos make a team name.
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>>120272999
Nice trips but you're bullshitting.

>>120273002
No, literally all we know is a tweet by (IIRC) Maekawa where he goes "early on these were the teams we were thinking", and the teams are so kinda random it's obvious there wasn't a plot or much intention into it yet, just them trying to see how they could bring back every Sonic character yet (except Shadow who was dead):

>Sonic, Tails, Knuckles
>Amy, Cream, Rouge
>Espio, Vector, Charmy
>Big, Chaos, Gamma
>Bean, Bark, Fang
>Ray, Mighty, Metal Sonic

We can speculate some stuff from here, but it's all just guesswork- only fact we know is the above list.

(Chaos and Gamma being here is likely the reason )why they're in Battle, the latter two teams were likely cut and forgotten since they're classic characters Sonic Team didn't care for, as opposed to Espio Vector and Charmy who're the more unique characters and whose designers likely were still in Sonic Team, when told to revive Shadow since he's popular it made more sense to move Rouge to his team and Gamma since he's Eggman-associated, but they remade Gamma into an expy to avoid reviving him, same reason Chaos is cut, that left a space in Team Rose they moved Big to
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Anon! What are you doing? Hurry and close this tab now before the thread archives with you on it!

https://youtu.be/sIx8rJxfarI
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>>120273095
>Gamma into an expy to avoid reviving him, same reason Chaos is cut
Too little too late. Battle retcons this with Chaos Gamma still being alive in story mode and Chaos himself appearing only when the planet is in extreme danger.

Adding to that, the Advance/Battle/Rush series is canon. Especially since Battle connects Heroes into '06. The only reason they cut characters like Gemerl, Chaos, and Gamma was because fans already complained about "too many Sonic friends".
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>>120273102
Shiiiiiiit!
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>>120273095
either an angel island exists on the human world or the station square train station doubles as a space elevator
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>>120273224
>Human world games
S3&K - SA - SA2 - Shadow - '06 - Unleashed
You could throw the storybook games in there too.
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>>120273214
>Especially since Battle connects Heroes into '06
It did? How? (Haven't played the game, please redpill me before the end of the thread)
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>>120273214
>Battle retcons this with Chaos Gamma still being alive in story mode
Chaos Gamma explicitly isn't Gamma, which is how they got out of reviving Gamma. It's a separate robot.

>>120273224
Or it can move, which we've seen before.
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>>120273273
Long story short.
>After Heroes, Shadow has visions of Maria
>E-102 guard robos apppear, Rouge says they look like Omega.
>Shadow gets beaten and blacks out. He hasn't recovered his true power.
>Shadow wakes up and follows Maria's call to find Emerl and discover his "purpose".
Character development starts
>Shadow and Emerl found out that their "soul" is a piece of Maria and to protect humanity.
>From then on, Shadow doesn't need emeralds to use Chaos Control. His true power was unlocked.
>Notice when he teleports, his color changed from green (chaos emerald warp) to blue (Maria's color).
>He only flashes blue when teleporting in '06.
>Battle cemented his partnership with Rouge and her government agency. Now at the start of '06, they're partners.
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>>120255505
>show things instead of telling because comics are a visual Medium
>Reeeeeee they should've told me!

Not to mention Taiks' looking directly at it. You just forgot, that's OK
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>>120273342
It's impossible to "revive" Gamma like raising a dead character. He's a machine and he blew up. Then they made a new one and downloaded the same memories and AI into him, just now powered by emerald shards.
Yeah he's a separate robot. But they have the same "soul". Just like Emerl and Gemerl.
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>>120273438
>Battle cemented his partnership with Rouge and her government agency
This is the only part I don't remember, are you sure? (I play Battle, at least, once a year, so unless it was very minor comment, I don't know how I could have missed it: what story was?)

>Notice when he teleports, his color changed from green (chaos emerald warp) to blue (Maria's color).
Now this is something I never noticed before, I will play attention in my next Battle playthrough

What a great game Battle is, at least story and character-wise, I think it is modern Sonic as its finest
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Time to piss off the Knuxouge and Shadouge shippers with best ship
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>>120274023
>Implying any ship other than shit TailsRouge or serious VectorVanilla would trigger someone



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