Alright /co/ since you're always complaining about it, can you actually name a cartoon or comic made before the 2010's that you are 100% confident is apolitical?
>>119149998I wanna see them have a threesome
>>119149998Secret Mountain Fort Awesome
>>119149998Even if you can name someone "apolitical", it's incredibly easy to make a political interpretation of it. Intentionally or no, every piece of media is saying something, has some kind of belief baked into it due to being made by people.
>>119150078agreed, I like to think all art is political in two ways, Passive and Active. Passive politics is when a piece of work just exist in society and active politics is when a piece of work is challenging society.
There's a difference between complex themes/meaningful social commentary and winking at the camera saying "trump is an orange meanie amirite guys?"
>>119149998Propaganda is direct, while art is reflective, someone like you can squeeze and look for tiny strands of politics in anything but it will never compare to bullshit in your face propaganda tranny cartoons
>>119150138I mean does are both political, one is just straight forward
>>119150138I hate to break it to you but Donald Trump was a punchline as early as the 80s, well before he even thought about a career in politics. The fact that he chose to make an even bigger target of himself by claiming the presidency should not give him a sudden immunity.
>>119150301Seriously, did these fucking cultists just conveniently forget that he was a widely mocked and hated shithead for decades? Or did they never realize it in the first place?
>>119150301>>119150347you crazies were the ones suffering from trump derangement syndrome by screaming if he so much as fed koi fish
>>119150301there's a difference between thinking it's overdone (especially for people outside burgerland) and thinking he should be immune, as South Park fans will tell you
>>119150301>>119150347I'm not the anon you're replying to but you missed the point entirely. Replace "orangeman bad" with "Muh gender and pronouns" for you to understand.
>>119149998Ironically, being apolitical is a pretty strong political statement too paradoxically. Being truly apolitical is pretty much impossible.
>>119149998Shitty question, anybody who views a work of entertainment as "political" is deranged. Putting politics in your work just means you're failing at making a work of entertainment; you're drawing and writing your social media neuroses.Like the "unsolicited opinions on israel" image. what the fuck reason would norse mythological characters have to care about politics? The writer just ceased to do her bad writing for that part and spewed out her neuroses from that time.
>haha man school testing is really screwy amirite?>TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN, AMERICA IS SYSTEMATICALLY RACIST, ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE BORN RACISTi see absolutely no difference or nuance in either example
>>119150347Ah yes, the widely mocked and hated host of a famous reality program. This is another episode of "I wish my social media crap had a history longer than when Tumblr banned porn and all the crazies migrated to Twitter."
>>119150501fuck off namefag
>>119150501>anybody who views a work of entertainment as "political" is deranged>Putting politics in your work just means you're failing at making a work of entertainmentYou may not know this, but sometimes people like reflecting political views through cartoons purposefully and others enjoy them. There's nothing deranged about it, just human expression.
>>119150627i think he's mostly referring to modern political works that are very racist against white people and imply the burden of solving racism is on them and them alone by eternally giving black people money, you know that cultural racism stuff
>>119150138This.Retards say "I don't want politics" but what they actually mean is "If you're going to put politics in your media, make sure they're politics that aren't retarded and completely lacking in subtlety."Basically, people bitch about politics now because American writers/animators/directors/producers are all fucking retards nowadays who wouldn't know subtlety if it bent them over and fucked them in the ass.The reason people rarely complain about politics in anime is because the politics are usually presented as more than just "those people who disagree with me in real life are meanie poopoo heads!"
>>119150301>>119150347>HURRR DURRRR TRUMP STEAKS HURRRR DURRRR ATLANTIC CITY CONSTRUCTION So tired of you dipshits making the same gay arguments at every juncture, Trump is literally indistinguishable from any other highly successful real estate/business/media mogul in terms of accomplishments and professional etiquette, you've just been told by the media that he's a dum dum game show host with le orange hair for 20 years and you should hate him because he is le boisterous and le rude If Trump hadn't been big time then New York City wouldn't have been as cool as it was in the 80s and 90s. UFC wouldn't have become a household name and every building in most northeast American cities would be collapsing from having the cheap chinese hardware that made them failing after 5 years. You wouldn't know that though because you probably rely on pic related for opinions.
>>119149998Cartoons have been directly shilling for the US government since the 40s, arguably before since the Hayes Code. It was that or being accused of be a nazi/commie. The US government understood the power of propaganda and how cartoons can mold the minds of little kids so technically all cartoons are political.
>>119150750>Trump>highly succesfulHe just got lucky of having a rich dad and being born on a time when rich people are never accountable for their failures
I'd really like people to tell me one non-hackeneyed reason that pic related, for example, is political.
>>119150627m8 politics is about governing a population. Before the social media explosion of stupidity nobody thought that it was something that you should spend your days thinking and talking about. It is a complete waste of time.Politics is an area where if you don't think it was better in the old days (meaning a decade ago), you're an idiot.
>>119150863How's the job hunt going? Are you shilling on your own time now?
>>1191508634 years of russia, 400 years of election fraud
>>119150851It's literally war generation being nostalgic toward the serials of the 30s/40s that featured a dumb cop being tricked by a clever rascal. The political content would be the disappointment of the American working class with the authorities and the mistrust after the crack of 29 but as funny animals because Hannah-Barbera didn't want troubles with the government. In fact, Yogi is just following Bugs Bunny's footsteps but with cheaper animation. They had an anti-authoritarian root but eventually got neutered. It's very common on American entertainment
>>119150347Trump played a wrestling heel to Vince McMahon's face. And Vince is basically a supervillain.
Ironically, Steven and Korra are rife with politics, both with one topic: gender issues and LGBT+ issues. Well, it is not irony. It is to capture without involving the character. So looking for apolitical series creators is the challenge.
>>119150480>Replace "orangeman bad" with "Muh gender and pronouns" for you to understand.So jokes that are "Based and redpilled"?
>>119150935I said non-hackeneyed you fucking sped.Even if this were hypothetically true and not just "lol, funny bear steals baskets", do you really not understand the different between extremely subtle things like you just said and "hooray for trans gay lesbian enby children and also Orange Man bad"?
>>119150975Vince is Trump's BFF in real life, Vince gave money to Trump's campaign and Vince's wife was a member of Trump's cabinet so...
>>119150809How exactly does one bankrupt a casino? Just, how?
>>119150750>If Trump hadn't been big time then New York City wouldn't have been as cool as it was in the 80s and 90s.A crime ridden cesspool?
>>119150996>So jokes that are "Based and redpilled"?Yes, we view you the exact same way you view /pol/tards.As it turns out, both of you are annoying cunts with shit taste who'll like any garbage so long as it panders to your personal politics.
>>119150975Fuck Vince McMahon. That rancid piece of shit is desperately trying to turn wrestlers into basically slaves.
>>119151079I like how you assume my politics just because I point out a singular individual has been a joke long before he was involved in politics in anyway.I mean fuck he's been such a cartoon that the when the Simpsons made fun of him it was 20 goddamn years ago.
>>119151002How is sexuality political?
>>119151091That's kind of my point. How big of a scumbag do you have to be that the audience will consider Vince the good guy in comparison?
>>119151123>I like how you assume my politics just because I point out a singular individual has been a joke long before he was involved in politics in anyway.Because as someone who's an actual centrist, most people who are centrists and aren't retards know that Trump is just another clown like every other politician, as such we don't really bother paying him any mind because it's all the same shit, only with the vocabulary of a 13 year old instead of a 19 year old.But yes, generally speaking the left and the right are 2 sides of the same retarded coin.Neither are capable of creating decent art in the modern era, because they're too worried about their various retarded dogmas to make anything interesting or compelling.
>>119151142It's not. Bigots are just retarded. >>119151156I mean, Vince isn't basically a nazi, as far as anyone can tell, so he's got that going for him.
>>119150809>5 bankruptciesOut of how many companies he's started?Because they weren't personal bankruptcies, they were failures of limited liability companies.
>>119151142Trannies are mentally ill and should not be validated.
>>119151002Is it the gay lesbian tranny shit really that much of an issue? Even the orange man is just a symptom of a bigger issue in America, the complete collapse of the political system. I don't like fags or trannies but thinking objectively from the perspective of the CEOs currently running our lives as modern feudal lords, what difference make? Even the Biden winning the election won't change the economy because he's stealth Republican (see how the Republicans got the majority on the senate). Every year, voting get more and more useless because the banks decide for the people and we're supposed to accept it because le economy. What's the point of voting? And the orange man gave one trillion to the corporations so he isn't precisely a man of the people. Trannies are disgusting but, how do they affect the system? How they threaten the status quo?
>>119151191>no foreign wars>reduces power of bureaucracy by sending agencies out of DC>reduces regulation>takes China seriously as a threat>he's totally like any other politicians you guys
>>119151191>Because as someone who's an actual centrist, most people who are centrists and aren't retards know that Trump is just another clown like every other politician, as such we don't really bother paying him any mind because it's all the same shit, only with the vocabulary of a 13 year old instead of a 19 year old.That's exactly my point. But suddenly "now" cartoons are too "political" when they're doing the exact same thing as always? It reeks of hurt feelings.
>>119151213You can believe that sure, won't change anything.
>>119151279see>>119150713People bitch about politics now because even compared to the 90s it's MUCH less subtle.Because modern Americans, again, don't know what subtlety is, because it's a country populated almost exclusively by retarded people.
>>119150301And it's only going to get worse, Trump is going to be mocked harder and longer than Nixon was.Seriously, get off the Trump train if you haven't already, your life will be so much better.
>>119151238>Even the Biden winning the election won't change the economy because he's stealth Republican (see how the Republicans got the majority on the senate)Yeah it's pretty weird how well the Republicans did in Congressional races given that Biden won. I guess Republicans just hated Trump. Weird how they found 95% approval of him among Republicans before the election though.Well I'm sure it's nothing to worry about. Don't rock the boat!
>>119151213But how is it political?
>>119150301The only thing before election was "your fired" refrences
>>119151310>People bitch about politics now because even compared to the 90s it's MUCH less subtle.Counter argument: It's not less subtle, you're just more sensitive.
>>119151385>It's not less subtleRiiiightI'll assume you're American, it'd certainly explain why you're retarded.
>>119151370Post-COIE Lex Luthor was modeled after Trump. He kinda fell into obscurity on the mid-to-late 90s after his hotels and casinos declared broke but rich people can declared in bankruptcy and still maintain their lifestyle. And Trump's life has always been about his image. Then he got his reality show and acted like nothing happened
>>119150021Considering two of the people here are canonically bi, this could work out
>>119151335Because it is an extremely left-wing view of sexuality that is being shoved down our throats, and now into our children. You know fully well that the faggot and tranny shit is being pushed by one particular side.
>>119149998Totally Spies?Angry Beavers?
>>119149998I know people hate this statement but I think it's true (outside absolutely baby tier shit) that all media is political in some form. It's not all necessarily liberal but a lot of it is.
>>119151506Don't forget more subtle too
>>119149998Korra was kinda the opposite of apolitical desu, it was kinda ‘allpolitical’ by the end as it dismantled different types of political systems one after the other
>>119151481Actually it's neoliberal. It's just that burgers never had a left because the FBI killed union leaders and the CIA fill the universities with hallucinogens on the 60s. The left view trannies as burgeous degeneracy and often execute fags and dykes as part of a program of moral cleaness. Meanwhile neoliberal politics want every gender and non-conformist to embrace together for buying Coca-Cola
>>119151559I'm not a burger. Trust me, the neoleft pushes the same shit everywhere.
>>119151584Then you spend a lot of time on /pol/ because it all started with this commie.
>>119151689I'm pretty sure Reagan hated homos. In any case I don't give a shit because again, I'm not a burger. I just want cartoons to stop preaching identity politics and general degeneracy.
>>119149998I'll do you one better. A currently running cartoon that's 100% apolitical.
>>119151747>I just want cartoons to stop preaching identity politics and general degeneracy.Don't hold your breath on that one, all the big cartoons are made by Americans, and Americans are FUCKING OBSESSED with that shit.
>>119151780I don't get it.
>>119151808When new season? It seems that it will go creepy and that is interesting.
>>119149998Tom and Jerry.Tom&Jerry and the Chocolate factory doesn't count obviously
>>11915185610th of December. Not even 3 weeks away.
>>119151747>I'm pretty sure Reagan hated homos.He did but he imposed neoliberalism to the entire globe, regardless the third world shitholes wanted it or not. He freed the market, allowing corporations to monopolized the media and do whatever they wanted. Our current situation is the direct result of Reagan's actions. But he didn't like the homos and black people. That's how contradictory the GOP is./pol/tards are like Don Quixote and the windmills
>>119151808It looks like ass, sadly.
>>119149998Spongebob? I can't think of anything political in it.
>>119151418As someone who doesn’t give a shit about 80s cartoon, I approve
>>119151885wtf. I hardly find out, thank you.
>>119153492It really gets overlooked. I was kinda expecting something a little lame since you now, pastel colors, but it’s pretty solid
>>119154703It's really overshadowed by AT, Animaniacs, and soon to be Hilda. Just watch the trailer on YT.
Did Megas have any major statements to make besides their running commentary on Mtv?
>>119150994Depends on if you consider sexuality and gender inherently political
>>119150078I don't mind political allegories they just should not be too on-the-nose, too one-sided, too much of a strawman, etc. Like X-Men can be an allegory for racism or any other sort of prejudice, but it would be too preachy and unbelievable if the violence was only one-sided and the mutants were only ever victims and never terrorists or criminals. Compare that to Star vs the Forces of Evil where by the end of the series it seems like mewmans/humans can do no good and monsters can do no evil; even Toffee ended up with the same goal as Star even if he ended up targeting a few innocent people along the way. Globgor is totally innocent even though he hate people because it was justified somehow. And the mewmans/humans need to disarm themselves by destroying magic and submit totally to their enemies.
>>119149998Before the 2010's?HiHi Puffy AmiYumiJimmy Two ShoesMike, Lu, and OgCourage the Cowardly DogJohnny Bravo Ed Edd n EddyInvader ZIMXiaolin ShowdownJackie Chan AdventuresMucha LuchaCramp TwinsRobotboySquirrel BoyTeacher's Pet (I think? There might have been some dog's right episode that reflected a political stance)Rugrats As Told By GingerCan I count things that mock old presidents like Washington or Lincoln? Because then I can throw in PPG, Dexter's Lab, and Time Squad.
>>119149998D'Myna Leagues, Being Ian, Johnny Test, Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab, Yvon of the Yukon, Zixx, maybe ReBoot.
>>119150301Of course. Trump's always been a joke. And like any joke it got tired and played out when people started obsessively retelling it ad nauseam for years.
>>119149998How has Spongebob not been mentioned yet?
>>119150531I really liked that Filmore episode. Man, that was a great series.
>>119150078What's the political message behind little red riding hood? Behind Spongebob? Behind Paw Patrol? Can't it just be that some things aren't political and just tell a story? Saying stuff like "hurting people is bad" "it's good to be good" it "try your best" aren't political. People just over read a lot. What's the politics in Gravity Falls? It doesn't say anything about race or gender. Even that deleted scene with the two women is a one-off thing. There's a difference between politics and messages.
>>119158187>"hurting people is bad"SU tried that. People were very upset
>>119158187>Behind Paw Patrol?Chase is a police and spy Dog and he's a key member of the good guys. That's explicitly political.
>>119149998>I want to watch something that doesn't call me out for my shit tier conservative bullshitUnless you're just curious, then Imma go with Winnie the Pooh
>>119158187>What's the political message behind little red riding hood?Don't talk to strangers. Obey your parents or else you end raped. A very conservative message.>Behind Spongebob?Stephen Hillenburg was a liberal hippie so the show is full of messages about tolerance and shit. When Hillenburg once was asked about conservative parents complaining that Spongebob was gay propaganda, he replied that he saw Spongebob as asexual because he was a sponge. And that was on early 2000s, before the first movie.>Behind Paw Patrol?The police is your friend, I guess
>>119151040t. Flyover state hillbilly
>>119152004>>119157785>>119158187spongebob is about how the protagonist is a fool for being happy with life as a wage slave
>>119151091Cry harder AEWtranny
>>119151040That was NYC in the 70s. The Warriors wasn't that far fetched, when it came out.
>>119151200>>119151142Faggots will be exterminated in the west
>>119151200>Trump is anything close to a naziI sincerely hope you will pick up an actual book written by someone like Carl Schmitt to learn some actual political theory
>>119159981The most exact term to describe Trump would be proto-fascism. He may turn into real fascism if he fulfill his coup d'etat but so far seems imposible with the legal way so either he brings the army and go full militar dictatorship or just leave to live from the adoration of his magapedes that already worship him as a prophet
>>119158213Not its political theme. Pro-diversity and assimilation of culture. Gender Identity as well.>>119158377Wrong>>119159704Don't talk to strangers isn't political.SpongeBob wasn't designed to be about homosexuals and Hillenburg says so. Not political.>>119159809No, it's not.Why do people think "every medium is inherently political" is a normal thing to think? Some things are made to tell a story. Some don't have allegories at all. Some have themes at most. Fucking hell a lot of art isn't political. Not everything has a deeper meaning unless you make one up. That doesn't make the item you larp about political, it makes you a high school English teacher that doesn't know shit.
>>119160197>The most exact term to describe Trump would be proto-fascism. Trump and his presidency was stock standard neoliberalism you lunatic. He did nothing fascist, and actual fascists hate him.Seriously read a book besides fucking Harry Potter for once. If you think the actual nationalists in your picture are some standard "MAGApede" you're one of the most hopeless /co/mblr retards out there.Actual fascists and "proto-fascists" (a meaningless buzzword that describes nothing) don't piss and moan about how low black unemployment is, they don't say they want legal immigrants at CPAC, and they don't support neoliberal wars in places like Syria and Afghanistan. Nor do they call universal healthcare "socialism" and support trillion dollar bailouts for big corporations.
>>119157715If Courage had aired today, everyone here would be frothing with rage at that lesbian domestic abuse episode.
>>119151123DID YOU JUST ASSUME MY POLITICS!?!?
>>119160197Trump is only contesting the presidency to save his image and his brand. He's a businessman first and foremost. He will peacefully concede after he exhausts all his legal options just so he can keep the possibility open that the presidency was "stolen" from him to protect his brand image (and ego).
>>119149998Unironically, Spongebob. Or at least classic Spongebob.
>>119149998Apolitical is still political. In fact, it's an inherently conservative one. By making no challenge to the status quo, you inadvertently support it.
>>119160591this, he's not so stupid as to risk his own life attempting a coup that couldn't possibly succeed
>>119149998Most people who talk about "politics" in modern media barely know what they are talking about. The "politics bad" camp is complaining about there being too much of a very particular brand of politics in modern media not about political representation as such. While their "opponents" frame everything as political. The absurdity of this position is that if something has any kind of story or massage you can interpret that as "political" but even under these criteria, ask yourself if things like "Dora the explora" or "teletubies" have some deep underlying political massage?
>>119160501No, they wouldn't. /co/ doesn't seethe haphazardly at anything gay. People tried to troll with Kipo's gay moment and failed. People don't shitpost SU because Pearl wants to fuck Rose, unlike shitposting Bubbline. Nobody really gave a shit about the two cops in Gravity Falls turning out to be gay, compared to Hirsch's, "Wendy was bi all along!" comments. I don't think anyone really cared about Twelve Forever having a gay girl lead. /co/ is fine with gay as long as it's a well-written romance arc, even if it ends in tradgedy as is the case with Pearl. They hate pandering and they hate shitty romances, which is why Regular Show and Star Vs. pisses off so many people despite being a show mostly about straight people.
>>119151274I hate to tell you this but if all the changes you made during your term are on the corporate level you're still a shit president because at the end of the day the system that the country is running on is broken as all shit and people keep suffering because of it
>>119150301>>119150347Trump won the election and his court cases are going to prove it. Hope you're ready for 4 more years, leftcucks
apolitical usually just means "the politics of the show agree with me and I'm gonna cry on the internet if they don't"
>>119160766>co/ is fine with gay as long as it's a well-written romance arcI wonder if you're aware how bullshit your post is or if you actually believe it.
>>119160795Reaganomics does work, just very slowly
>>119160852Did you stop reading my post one sentence in? I gave several examples where /co/ doesn't seethe or spam the catalog with those characters because they're gay. You wanna go ahead and find me all the threads of people shitposting Pearl/Rose because it's a one-sided lesbian love arc the same way people shitpost Jackie and Black French Girl last minute reveal?
>>119160795I agree. Democrats were right. Actual military foreign interventionism is way more effective than lousy trade wars. I can't wait for Biden to begin actual war on China instead of gay ass trade war shit
>>119160924The fact that you don't think lesbos are a huge reason SU was so hated on here makes you frankly delusional
>>119161017Don't anons usually call it a tranny show tho? No one seems to actually care about the lesbian part even if it's really prominent
>>119161017Refute my point, retard. Where are the shitpost SU threads bitching about Rose/Pearl because they're gay?
>>119160880We've been waiting 40 years and the wealthy still hasn't tickle down. In fact, poverty has increased, social mobility has stagnated while the rich are richer than ever. But I guess we can wait another 40 years like good little cucks because the other option are literal gulags, right?
>>119161017People hate SU because:>It's spammed>All the "non-binary" retarded representation shit>"Isn't fusion sex? Doesn't that mean Steven fucked his dad???">Solving all your problems with singing and crying>Height inconsistencies >Hyped up arcs with flaccid climaxes >Anime references>Flanderizing Garnet from a cool character to the fusion character>Sticking Peridot and Lapis in the barn>Fucking up Jasper's potential to be added into the story>The chest being fucking nothingNot because it has lesbians in it.
>>119160981it's amazing how you heard what I said and interpreted as "damn democrats sure are neat" instead of a condemnation of every single president out there whose policies have done jack shit to fix the broken ass system the country is built on, meaning all of them.
>>119161060The wealth has trickled down, it just hasn't kept pace with the 1%s rising wealth
>>119150078>Even if you can name someone "apolitical", it's incredibly easy to make a political interpretation of it.Not to mention most people don't care if there is SOME degree of politics in their cartoons/movies/comics/games, they're just complaining about how ham fisted it all is today. We want entertainment, not a fucking sermon.
>>119161277But I genuinely think Neoliberalism is based and I hope Biden being president again marks a return to a pre-Trump status quo. Hell maybe it'll he like the Bush or Clinton era again
>>119161288>Defending the 1% to the point of ignoring everything elseThis is more cucked than actual cuckoldry
>>119151329>Weird how they found 95% approval of him among Republicans before the election though.Him going off against our own military probably had a big chunk of that responsibilityOffenses include:>troops are losers>my military advisers can be ignored>top secret, what's that?>Veterans assistance? I'll take that money (not only a Trump problem)>Putin has a standing bounty on dead US soldiers? He's a good man, I respect him.
>>119161333I sincerely hope you die a slow and painful death. Neoliberals are the lowest scum on the planet, and I would take literal gulag tankies over subhuman creatures like you.
>>119161372Fuck the military. Literally a pack of niggers and welfare queen stooges that neoliberal subhumans used as cannon fodder for Israel.
>>119161375>tankiesNobody outside of you small insignificant clique even knows what that means. And nobody cares about you fags either. This election not only had the highest turnout in history, but also the highest youth turnout. Democracy and neoliberalism works and is effective at asserting Americas global military superiority
>>119161299>We want entertainment, not a fucking sermon.A-fucking-men. This is ultimately what fucked the Animaniacs reboot. Even the fact they shifted even further left of centrist than they were before could have been forgiven if not for the dramatically increased preachyness of everything. Putting that preachyness behind "oh boy aren't we meta?" doesn't distract from it.
Just for the sake of clarity, if I have a worldwide ancient conspiracy as villains of my work, do I really have a way to stop people from seeking out DA JOOS/DA RICH in my work where all I wanted is to have an extremely powerful enemy in my work and didn't intend for any political implications whatsoever? Or will it just happen regardless?
>>119161702All conspiracies are just copes for (((The Conspiracy))), anon. I'm sorry.
>>119161444Kys deluded neoliberal subhuman piece of dogshit>>119161702Jews having massive overrepresentation in positions of power isn't a conspiracy theory it's open demographic information that nobody is hiding. Even Israeli newspapers discuss it from time to time, and fucking Joe Biden said it about Jews and LGBT rights movements.
>>119161702It will happen regardless. Just make your work how you want and don't stop fan speculation. It's almost better to just let fan speculation run wild because that's how communities form. Discussion. Getting in the way of that is essentially just killing off what would otherwise be a thriving fanbase
>>119161397>used as cannon fodder for Israel.That's another thing: Trump said he'd back us out of being Israel's bitch. That never happened. So not just liberals
>>119161750Jews have earned their place of power for their exception ability to conspire in the first place among all other peoples and races, and its funny how much they make people like you seethe
>>119161794Seriously the amount of people still deluded into thinking a zionist neocon president is "proto-fascism" or fascism in any capacity is ridiculous.>>119161815Nothing I said about them was "seething".
>>119151091“He’s a Pimp” -New Jack
>>119161750Israeli newspapers "discuss it" because anti-semites already assert their power without them having to actually do anything. Your entire platform relies on this notion that Jews oppress all other races so you have an obligation to defend that false premise through confirmation bias and cherry picking
>>119150078>philosophy is the exact same thing as politicsEvery fucking time you goddamn parasites conflate this horseshit and it pisses me off.
>>119161891What platform you retard? Jews being in charge of the world is an objective fact, and everyone acknowledges it already. Media is dominated by Jewish individuals. Fact. Banking and financial institutions are dominated by Jewish individuals. Fact. Even political donors, and political advisors are overwhelmingly Jews. This isn't a "conspiracy". There isn't a SECRET AGREEMENT (the actual definition of a conspiracy) involved. It is all public. It is all open information. Nobody is talking about oppression except for you. Go back to tumblr and stop ruining this site.
>>119161891>left complains about how power structures in the west are corrupt and oppressive>said power structures are run by jews>i-its not the jews, y-you're just crazyEven the USSR purged the jews anon.
>>119161976>>119162014None of what you said was true. And if it is then good. Jews seem to be running the world a lot better than you spazes
>>119162069What the fuck is your obsession with pretending Jews don't have a massive amount of institutional power?https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/us-jews-contribute-half-of-all-donations-to-the-democratic-party-468774These are actual Jews from a JEWISH ETHNOSTATE reporting that Jews are the majority of American political donors. Do you think these people are neonazis peddling a conspiracy theory in their basement?https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-dec-19-oe-stein19-story.htmlThis is a Jewish author for the LA Times (https://www.allsides.com/news-source/los-angeles-times-bias). Not a larping neonazi on discord with a prussian flag for an avatar.https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/usury-and-moneylending-in-judaism/Is my jewish learning a neonazi conspiracy theory site which predicates on the image of Jews oppressing other races? I doubt it. And yet here they are saying that Jews do have an outsized role in financial institutions.
>>119162233Jews actually seem pretty based to have all this power and be so involved in our great political system. I think most anti-semites might actually be Jewish themselves because I have literally never seen any other group praise Jews so much and rave about their power and accomplishments
>>119162338Yeah I know your cope is to act like you think they're based, but you can just admit you were wrong, and that I was right. Go on, and say it.
>our political system>greata great joke maybe
>>119162369First tell me what your deal is with Jews to begin with. Why do you even care if they donate to political parties and produce so many TV shows? Why the fuck aren't YOU out there doing these things?
>>119162411Admit you were wrongGo on. Say it. Say "anon, I was wrong".
>>119162430You need the validation of strangers online way too much anon
>>119162453Go an and admit you were wrong anon. It's ok to stop coping, and just say it.
>>119162519Ok then, well everyone can see how embarrassingly wrong you were.
>>119163110We all know who (((Mr. Krabs))) is supposed to be.
>>119159981So did he get a bunch of Jew grandkids to try and throw you sleuths off his trail?
>>119163174Anon please read the doctrine of fascism, and then come back here
>>119161017If anything Steven himself being a giant pansy faggot is why people hate SU.
>>119160197>The most exact term to describe Trump would be proto-fascism.Americans are so fucking retarded, my god.You fuckers don't even know what fascism or communism is, fuck off with this stupid bullshit.All it is is neo-liberals who are slightly more left-leaning calling neo-liberals who are slightly more right-leaning fascists, and neo-liberals who are slightly more right-leaning calling neo-liberals who are slightly more left-leaning communists.You're all a bunch of fucking retards who don't know what the fuck you're even talking about, God I can't wait for your moronic despotic shithole of a country to fuck off and collapse so you can stop poisoning the world with your stupidity.Fuck you, I'm mad.
>>119160197Looking at the picture you posted. Those guys all look normal. Like "haha his mouth is open so funny xd" but the guy mid speech also looks pretty generic.
>>119149998>This thread immediately turned into /pol/The only prominent one I can think of this decade is OGTW. Wander wasn't very political either, but there were some subtle bits here and there. Amphibia isn't terrible either, any politics it hits is usually approached pretty neutrally.
>>119149998>>119150078which is why the argument that "everything is political" COULD be made, but obviously to anyone whos not a retard, when we say we dont like politics in our toons we mean LESS of em and not to the point where theyre in your face, obviously intentionally political or distracting
>>119151320>Seriously, get off the Trump train if you haven't already, your life will be so much better.Ok Ocasio
>>119149998whats the pointyou schizos end up pushing retarded "everything is political" agenda anyway
>>119161038Yeah that too
>>119160446No, that was its theme, you don’t gotta fight. That and get therapy
>>1191641692 weeks2 weeks2 weeks
>>119167607>im right your wrongdo trannies really?
>>119160446>WrongHaving a hero be an agent of a government entity is explicitly political.
>>119149998I can see where this is going. It is a "three pronged defense".1) Claim everything is political.2) Dismiss any political message that you agree on to be non-political ei: "basic decency", "it is just X existing".3) Use Death of the Author to either associate a political message to story or to dismiss discoveries of the political message.
At this point, I’d stick with Primal which is 100% a non political cartoon since it takes place in literal prehistoric history, where the concept of politics don’t even exist.
>>119169279Maybe, but it does sometimes deal with societies' relations to ritual and belief. Like in "A Cold Death" when Spear ends up resolving the conflict with the mammoths' by honoring their funerary rites by giving them back the tusk, and in "Rage of the Ape-Men" where the ritual combat the apes constructed around the black goo leads to the biggest risk of loss Spear's faced since his family died. The theme seems to be how beings when they're in a larger social structure relate to the idea of death, which is often altered from the life-and-death decisions spear and fang make venturing on their own, that are almost always about survival.
>>119149998If you want to figure out how, if in any way, a work is political, and what political statements it's making, here's an easy way to do it. First, look for any state structures represented within the work. Find the leaders or agents of that state structure represented within the work. That could be kings or princesses, politicians, bureaucrats, chiefs, police officers or soldiers, empresses or emperors, etc. How are they presented? Are they oppressive, inconvenient, helpful, inoffensive, incompetent? What is their relation to the protagonist? Whether implicitly or explicitly, the presentation of these figures or their role in the narrative will inform the political messaging of the work. There are other things to take into account, like religious structures and business relations which might indirectly imply something political, but honing in on the state will get right to the core of the issue.
>>119150851>I'd really like people to tell me one non-hackeneyed reason that pic related, for example, is political.
>>119163448Not having chins isn't "normal", Cletus.
>>119150078Political INTERPRETATION isn’t something anyone cares about. That’s like saying “oh well Mario bros is really about a clash of monarchies”, just some jackass twisting things that aren’t visibly stated onscreen in order to fit their preferred narrative that can easily and will easily be ignored or rather never even come to mind of 99 percent of peopleThe issue people have when they complain about overt in your face politics is that 1; they’re always terribly done so they make the product worse, and 2, why the fuck do you think we care about thePolitical leanings of a group of people who’s only job is to write pretend, and they can’t even do that very well? Avoiding being political is so dirt simple you have to make an actual effort for it to happen at all, but avoiding people interpreting your work as political when it’s not in the text is the same thing as avoiding people who can’t stop talking about Tarantino, there’s only a couple of people who care this much and they’re pretty easy to avoid if they’re not the dumbass writer who put it into a series that it never had before and wouldn’t be as popular for them to ruin if it had been there at the start.
>>119163327>the doctrine of fascismIdealist drivel.
>>119170861If you got a message, say it.
>>119170861South Park has had a long and successful life off being political. The argument of "ugh we don't care about that" remains a bullshit, overly simplistic excuse.
>>119171482It’s mainly menchildren
>>119170866>idealist drivel>posting the pic of the last great idealist, arguably Christianism's last hurrah after the death of god
>>119160924>I gave several examples where /co/ doesn't seethe or spam the catalog with those characters because they're gay.Bullshit. A lot of SU threads are basically people complaining that it promotes degenerate values. At least it used to be that way a couple of years ago.
>>119161126That's people who actually watch the show and don't just come from /pol/ to shitpost about it.
>>119172096No one is bitching about Rose and Pearl, they're bitching about Stevonnie.
>mfw when kino cartoon is right again
>>119151998It’s good though
>>119151481It’s a view by politicians, doesn’t automatically make it a political issue
>>119150301Not comics and cartoons.>>>/pol/
>>119171982He's literally the foremost materialist political writer. He wrote about actual ways people interact over the structures that deliver their material goods. The doctrine of fascism in comparison is full of a bunch of spiritualist woo-woo.
>>119174057Trump has a cartoon