Is Empyre the worst event Marvel has ever done? Looking around that seems to be the consensus.
>>116646745Ultimatum and Civil War 2 are the worst events. War of Realms and Absolute Carnage are worse than Empyre. Secret Empire wasn't as bad as the others but it was a dumpster fire for various reasons and led to Alonso stepping down as EiC.
>>116646745The current event is always the worst event
>>116646745No, just heavily wrecked due to circumstances beyond anybody's ability to anticipate.
>>116646745Looking around where? Whose consensus?
Remember Age of Ultron?
>>116646745A couple of Anons here will tell you that Ewing is the new Alan Moore and that everyone's loving his guardians run, so this isn't the right place to ask this question.
>>116646745>Is Empyre the worst event Marvel has ever done?Not even close>Looking around that seems to be the consensus.Looking where?
>>116646784>Ultimatum and Civil War 2 are the worst eventsNo>War of Realms and Absolute Carnage are worse than Empyre. No>Secret EmpireSo you're saying that Empyre is better or worse?
>>116646894Shut the fuck up you fucking frog
>>116646970>>Ultimatum and Civil War 2 are the worst events>>NoAre you fucking high?
It’s the best event of the past 15 years
>>116646745most pointless maybe. not the worst but its a nothingburger
>>116646784war of the realms wasn't bad at all
>>116647618>most pointless maybeSo you didn't read Infinity Countdown and Infinity Wars?
I just want to get to Knull, he seems like a great character.
>>116646745>Is Empyre the worst event Marvel has ever done?It's not even close to the worst, it's just a lot nothing, and just another alien invasion event but this time there are two alien factions at once. Unless something good or lasting happens in the second half of the event, it's going to be an event people forget about like Maximum Security or Fear Itself, not remembered for how bad it is like Civil War 2 and Secret Empire.>>116646784>Secret Empire wasn't as bad as the others but it was a dumpster fire for various reasons and led to Alonso stepping down as EiC.All of the things related to Secret Empire that anyone liked were all in the build-up. The event itself is memorably bad, and a complete mess, likely due to the rumored rewrites. We really need someone to tell a behind the scenes story on Secret Empire and how it all went wrong, the same as we need the inside story on Alonso's departure.
Empyre is just gonna be one of those events that will pass and go. But it's not gonna be as worse as Strawman War II.
OP, have you forgot Age of Ultron? Ultimátum? Fucking Civil War 2?>all these people hating Absolute CarnageFuck you guys
>>116646745This isn't even that bad, just by the numbers
>>116647992what's up with tiny black Optimus Prime ?
>>116646745fuck no, and even suggesting it is is laughable
>>116648097Absolute Carnage is just a few fights string together and repeated in the tie ins. Barely anything happened except letting everyone know that Knull is coming.
It's not bad, it's just an event, which is already an improvement than the previous events we've been gotten in the past few years.
>>116648117Riri used to have a cooler mech before she got Tony's castoffs when he diedThanos destroyed that suit and she built her current Ironheart
>>116648117That was Riri before she took the name Ironheart.
>>116647992is this where the Carol hatred started? cuz she seems like a dumbass
>>116648154>>116648151was she not meat to look like Ironman back then?
>>116648160This is where Carol hatred started for me though I'm pretty sure it's mostly Bendis hate that coursed through my veins when this story was published.
>>116648187it's unclear. It was probably just be Deodato's tracing hackery leaking through to other artists.
>>116648160>>116648193The problem is that Carol is the villain from Minority Report and after putting Tony in a coma she gets a promotion and everyone loves her.
I think its cause its a cosmic event and not going to really impact how earth's heroes are going to be like even if it drastically changes the state of the alien politics. The only significant impact I can see it having for the main earth is if Carol is gonna be roped into the Kree more.
>>116648238We already know she's getting a She-Hulk-sized half sister.
>>116646745The 3 issues before Empyre 1 were great. I've not checked out Empyre yet.
>>116646745So far, Empyre ain't bad.Its not *good*, its kinda bland. But there have been many, many worse events that were actively bad.
>>116648160No but people like to pretend it was.
Empyre is once again an """"event"""" thats not so secretly a mini series, which is a good thing, I'm glad so many tie-ins git cancelled, even if theres a few I was looking forward to
>>116648237The problem is also that Tony spends the entire event looking like a whiny petulant bitch who is only doing this because he needs someone to blame for Rhodey's death.
>>116646970>unironically supporting UltimatumThis is where contrarianism gets you, people
>>116646970>Ultimatum and Civil War 2 are the worst events>NoGoddamn you usually have to work to find someone this stupid
>>116649597not on /co/
>>1166467841. Civil War 22. Secret Empire/Pleasant Hill or whatever the fuck3. Age of X4. Infinity Wars5. Secret Wars IINot even top five
>>116646745What's wrong with it?
>>116649969It's actually good and /co/ hates it when that happens
>>116646745No but it’s really fucking boring
>>116646745What's even bad about it?For the most part it seems harmless and we got Venom driving a truck out of it.
>>116646745What's this even about? Haven't read any Marvel since Absolute Carnage ended.
>>116649620>Pleasant HillIf you are trash talking Standoff, that was a 9/10 event. Also, replace Age of X with House of M. Fucking namefags get dumber every day.
>>116649969it's just been mostly predictable so far
>>116650151So you saw the R'Klll twist coming?
>>116650134Age of X was also pretty bad but he could be referring to Age of X-Man which was fucking awful
>>116650173that's why I said mostly, dumb-dumb
>>116650175It's bad, but neither are worthy of the top 5. Age of X-Man was forgettable more than anything. The story that led to it was shit, the main book was forgettable at best,and the tie-ins were a distraction at worst.
>>116647992Aside from that 1 moment where Carol left the meeting with Tony like a childish brat I REALLY don't see where she was truly in the wrong.And like all far left, anarchist, anti law & order messages they didn't give her a single god damn alternate solution. They basically demanded she ignore apocalyptic genocidal level threat warnings, it's batshit insane.And Tony kidnapping & beating the Inhuman who could predict was worse than anything she did easily. How is anything she did any worse than what Fury or even Steve did as director of Shield?And I say all this as someone who agrees modern Carol sucks.
>>116650211Didn't Age of X-Man go and pretty much kill almost every X-Men on sight before Hickman took over?I mean, yeah, that might have been part ofbthe plan, but shit's still ridiculous.
>>116650250because she started using it as a generalized Minority Report and arrested someone who hadn't done anything and wasn't planning on doing anything. The system was PROVEN to be FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED in like issue 4 but for some reason Carol just didn't give a shit and the situation was only resolved when Poochie returned to his home planet.
>>116650256>Didn't Age of X-Man go and pretty much kill almost every X-Men on sight before Hickman took over?No, they just got moved to another universe or something. Everyone in 616 thought they were dead, but at the same time the readers knew they were alive and books about them were still coming out.
>>116649571Not him but take out Cannibal blob & Ultimatum is just a generic heroes vs natural disaster + Magneto story. It's really nothing egregious, the Ultimate universe was meant to do game changing status quo shakeups and that is what Ultimatum did and a lot of decent to great series came out of the new status quo.
>>116650304If doesn't matter if the predictions are fucking flawed you still can't take the fucking chance when the fate of the world is at stake.
>>116646745The art is hideous
>>116650175Age of X was cool.
>>116650256No it was Rosenburgs X-Men running at the same time that was killing everybody.
>>116650354sure, for big major world-ending threats, whatever. But not for creating a police state like Carol wanted to do.Nevermind that Ewing had to go in later to make Thanos less of a retard for that big "tipping point" battle.
the problem with Empyre is that it focuses on Teddy and Teddy is less interesting that a rock with a face on it.
>>116650373Hickman needs to hurry the fuck up and tell us what's going on with Warlock
>>116648160It started with the movement to masculinize Carol Danvers and Civil War 2 Endgame was the icing on the cake.
>>116650410He's uninteresting because he never gets any focus. Everything is about Billy and Teddy is just there to be Billy's boyfriend most of the time.
>>116650481even the little solo on teddy for empyre had billy sucking up screentime so. he's the apollo to the midnighter
>>116650412Something wrong with him in the recent New Mutants escapades in space?
I'm not excited and waiting for the next issue of Empyre. Secret Wars was the last time I was invested in an event.
>>116650595Nah its just we still don't really know why Warlock is still pretending to be Cypher's arm, he actually showed himself in the Giant X-men issue with Nightcrawlers
>>116650595The Giant-Sized Nightcrawler was actually a Giant-Sized Cypher that revealed Warlock and Cypher are planning something and nobody knows he's still alive in Doug's arm except for Magik.
>>116650595Warlock was only revealed to be actually alive recently. We still need to know why Doug is keeping him a secret, what their plan is, and what Warlock's connection to the overarching AI vs. Mutants plot is.
>>116648361I'm just asking out of curiosity, I'm a DC guy and don't have any strong feelings toward Carol
>>116648160Buisick Avengers for me, back when she was Wasted Bird.
>>116646970wtf this can't be a real opinion
>>116650121Apparently the sales have been soft. Reviews haven’t been that great either.
>>116651768Wtf is Tucker Swanson really here or you just dense
>>116650367No it isn't
>>116652131You're doing good work here. I like the angry/smug hook. I'm totally going to appropriate that.
>>116648237Marvel civilians loving her makes sense. They have to deal with an alien invasion or supverillian plot every other month and the invasion starts by destroying a city or a city block as collateral. She basically did save millions of lives as beast mentioned at the cost of a few civil liberties for a few people. Putting aside that, tony tried killing her, so her taking him down was self defense (confirmed in a one shot where she actually does stop fighting him and he puts her in a coma instead)
>>116648237>>116649506There's a reason so many tie-ins had the characters basically going "This is stupid, let's not get involved," only to be dragged into it against their will.
>>116653477isn't that essentially what happened with the first Civil War too
>>116653492I don't remember AS many going full "Fuck this shit," during the original. Off the top of my head, there was only Thing, and other books that didn't touch it at all, like Hulk.
>>116649620age of X? Please do not take this the wrong way, but you are a fucking moron who doesn't know shit about comics.
>>116650151predictable setups at that. hoping it picks up speed. even then it's better than most events.
>>116646837cucks.com, OP's community.
>>116650367>artist on HoX/PoX>This is amazing!>same artist on Empyre>This is shit!/co/ really is having an agenda here
>>116652980>miles shows up to let himself get arrested>carol flies in and tries to arrest him>tony puts a barrier around miles to stop it>tony is being defensive and carol is the one actively trying to fight him while he's trying to reason with herAt that point Carol was out of her mind and doing whatever she can to take in Miles. Tony was just defending himself and Miles. But of course he had to use missiles and lasers because otherwise Tony would've been dead instead of comatose.
>>116647992I can’t believe they explicitly got Carol get away with murder and she somehow doesn’t even know it.
>>116647906Secret Empire should never have been an event. Spencer is only good with small rosters of characters he likes.
>>116647992"I have Optimus Prime on my team, it's over Carol!"
>>116655710Miles just went to the capitol building because he didn't know what he was doing, just showed up to the place of the predicted disaster.Carol saw this, and was trying to save miles' life too, by taking him into protective custody which is different from arrest (also mentioned multiple times), especially since there were unseen variables associated with these visions as she had noticed (like banner dying to hawkeye) and wanted to protect the perps too. Tony simply assumed the worst, came in there and started shooting out missiles blowing up everything (one of em even hit cap accidentally). Even miles was yelling at him to let him go. Tony was way more "out of his mind" than Carol. >>116655926Tony's alive, he just thought he was dead or a clone.
I’m shocked that no one has mentioned Fear Itself or Original Sin yet, shocked I tell you
>>116647992In Force Works in the early 90s, Tony built a probability calculation computer powered by Wanda.But obviously Bendis wouldn't know that.
>>116656192>carol apologists warping what happenedShe was out for blood and didn't even care what was going on.
>>116656192That’s annoying, but is he still adopted?How did they even retcon him being the original after all the deaths, clone bodies and brain resets?
>>116656353Warp what anon, everything is factual.Tony kept attacking her despite her attempts to get him to stand down. He came in a self healing armor trying to kill her, and would've the moment she relented. https://imgur.com/a/lPh939B
>>116656773Yes, unfortunately you cannot do away with all bad retcons. He's still adopted despite sharing facial features, intelligence, alcoholism. Also him being the original is kinda weird, but I guess its more of a "soul" thing? Since in marvel you have souls, you can check if you're the guy.
>>116656972I suppose that works, it’s one way to brush away what’s happened with Cap and the XMen too.
>>116657005In Cap's case, they more explicitly came out and said that the other guy was a clone and this cap was real in the history of marvel universe bookDunno about the x-men though. That might be something fishy.
>>116657119cap is kinda easily fixed by cosmic cube bullshit, via Secret Empire. as with all Cosmic cube shit you just hand wave it away
>>116656952>using an alternate non-canon timeline from an issue that takes place after the event to counter the actual event
>>116650338>Not him but take out Cannibal blob & Ultimatum isAbysmal trash with mind-numbingly terrible dialogue that feels like something out of a 90s Image comic, ignoring established continuinty (Doom's death comes to mind. And no, you don't get to say "b-b-but that was Sue's mother", that's just a lame retcon that came later to make up for Marvel's non-existent editors), gratuitious deaths, genius writing such as allowing Iron Man anywhere near Magneto and don't get me started on Cyclops being unable to close his eyes, twists like "Quicksilver was alive all along lmao", And that's just from what I remember.You have to be genuinely retarded if you think Cannibal Blob is the only problem with Ultimatum and it was "nothing egregious", you revisionist cunt.
>>116657145It would be easy, but nick spencer somehow managed to fuck it up by saying the "good cap" was a product of kobik's memories of him and didn't realize the implication.That's why the retcon was needed to be explicitly spelled out.>>116657331Alternate timeline created by altering 1 choice, demonstrating what was already evident in the main event book.
>>116653477>There's a reason so many tie-ins had the characters basically going "This is stupid, let's not get involved," only to be dragged into it against their will.This is why the best thing about Civil War 2 was the Scarlet Witch tie-in issue where she successfully refuses to get involved in another Bendis event story.
>>116653549The Planet Hulk story was happening at the same time as Civil War, that's why he wasn't involved. Millar's earlier versions of the story had Hulk returning in the final act with an army of 'Hulk Babies' as the threat the other heroes had to work together against.
>>116657681well, wanda successfully managed to not get involved in any other story either so
>>116646745Lol, no. It seems fairly uncomplicated but most importantly has yet to do anything completely fucked up.
>>116657766Not really, she was in Secret Empire and spent the entire event possessed by Chthon, she wasn't actually in Infinity Wars but Weapon Hex was created by merging her with X-23. She wasn't in War of the Realms at all, and she's in the Avengers tie-in mini for Empyre. Civil War 2 is the one where she was with all the heroes in the first issue, then used her tie in comic to refuse to participate in the rest of the event, or to get dressed.
>>116646745Inhumans vs X-men was worse
>>116646745Not even close. Age of Ultron is a dumpster fire and Civil War 2 might be the biggest creatively bankrupt story in the last decade.
>>116658888But Civil War 2 sold, so there is a real chance of Civil War 3 happening in this decade.
>>116646784this, they both immediately popped to mindit's not even close
>>116658913I mean if we wanna look at sales instead of quality, sure.
>>116658976You actually think they care about quality if it sells above a minimum level?
>>116646970his bait... it might just be retarded enough to work...!
>>116659091Look at that fucking body and ugly face and we can't put Veranke in a leotard anymoreEven the men are ugly in Empyre
>>116649620Pleasant Hill was great, though.
>>116655498Hello Ewing, nice to see you posting on /co/.
>>116658689You seem to have forgotten to include the Avengers No Surrender and Avengers No Road home.
>>116646745How can it be? Marvel has done some EXTREMELY terrible events in the past.Civil War 2 is both terrible and entirely pointless.
>>116659115the marvel way of how to make comics always brought beautiful curvy women these marvel artists today have never heard of this book and the editors approve of all art even though it is pretty bad
>>116659674So has the rest of the world.
>>116659115That's not Veranke you fucking idiot
>>116646745>Looking around that seems to be the consensus.You mean you looked at this review by fucking Bleeding Cool>https://bleedingcool.com/comics/empyre-3-review-can-this-issue-yet-save-marvels-worst-event-ever/
If Civil War II is the worst event, which is the best event?
>>116646745no? Pretty interesting and Ewing is secretly the only writer, since Slott is a lazy fuck
>>116660458Age of Apocalypse
>>116660338Empyre is bad no doubt about lt, nitpicking which event is worse won't fix anything.
>>116659144Hi OP, nice to see you are still a seething cuck ;)
>>116646745And still better than anything DC has ever done, i wonder how they keep winning.
>>116650121cucks.com, OP's community.
>>116660713>better than anything DC has ever doneThat's a good joke Anon
>>116646745I like it, but I'm a little preoccupied by the current apocalypse situation to focus on comics. Also I got really into painting miniatures lately, so that's also eating up a lot of free time.
>>116660737Yeah Forever Evil was a big joke. I imagine a fan of it would be mad over the fact that it was a shitty event even among the DC's ones, let alone the ones from Marvel.
>>116659115You should dye your hair in purple and state your pronouns. That would suit how much a pathetic crybaby you are.
>>116660774I get you hate DC but c'mon stop being an obtuse fanboy, save the console war faggotry for /v/
I dont think its bad, its boring like chaos war, but not bad like Ultimatum
>>116650338>Take away the one thing everyone remembers I'll admit I'm more of a DC fan but it's the same thing with Sue Dibney getting raped and murdered during Identity Crisis. Without it the event was fine but it's the only thing people remember and care about from that event
>>116650453I dont get it honestly, they clearly wanted Carol to become the Wonder Woman of Marvel, so why cover her up? When has Wondie ever covered up?
>>116660737The side on the left is all the villains plus batmanLol
>>116660813It's good to see people shitting on ladder, even in the marvel threads
>>116646745I just read Skrulls and dove head first into this, only to get lectured about these veggie fags I have never care about. I would stay for the skrull loli though.
>>116648142What's wrong with that? The fact that it's fun and enjoyable on any level already puts over the vast majority of events
>>116659115Skrull GILF is obviously not wearing underwear.
>>116662842Characters wanking off Kletus and running away from him and hiding from him until it was time for him to lose is not what I would consider fun.
>>116659091that is legitimately much better than she's looked in most books ever since Aaron got his hands on her
>>116660737you could've at least posted Final Crisis or One Million and not a schlocky Johns comic
>>116662842>fun and enjoyableIt really wasn't
>>116663265I like Siege but Infinity & Fear Itself were better.
>>116650373God, that run was so shit, but I couldn’t stop reading
>>116650338>Not him but take out Cannibal blob & Ultimatum is just a generic heroes vs natural disaster + Magneto story.Take out Cannibal Blob and the story is still fucking stupid. Why does Magneto try to use Mjolnir on Valkyrie even though he could've used his magnetic powers on her sword at any time? Why do the Multiple Men wait until Giant Man walked far, far away from the Triskelion before setting their bombs off when their mission was to destroy the Triskelion? Why doesn't Cyclops close his eyes when Magneto affects his visor?
>>116663265>>116663616>the event that screwed over jms's thor run after he was promised that it wouldn't be messed with and made him leave marvelThe only time /co/ actually liked Siege was the end of the first issue when Cap's shield was flying towards Norman's head. The rest was a shitshow.
>>116656374>>116656388SHO RYU KEN!!!
>>116646970Secret empire was an awful piece of shit.
>>116646970And war of the realms is the worst of ecerything>>116646970
>>116646745Best events>Secret Wars (3)>Fall of the Mutants>Annihilation>Realm of Kings>AXIS>DC vs. Marvel>Mutant Massacre>Infinity>Kraven's Last Hunt>Gauntlet / Grim Hunt>Korav Saga>Kree/Skrull War>Infinity Gauntlet>Annihilation: Scourge>World War HulkSo-so events>Civil War>Dark Reign>Secret Wars>Secret Wars 2 (if you include the aftermath)>Annihilation: Conquest>Inferno>House of M>Siege>Avengers vs. X-Men>Chaos War>Dead No More: The Clone ConspiracyWorst events>Spider-Island>Civil War 2>Secret Invasion>Maximum Carnage>Original Sin>Heroes Reborn>The Clone Saga>Onslaught>Secret Empire>Infinity Wars>Siege>Age of Ultron>Fear Itself>Inhumans vs. X-Men>Monsters Unleashed>X-Men: Schism>ShadowlandYou have never seen such horrors, and blocked these events from your memory so that you could live a happier life.>Ultimatum>One More Day
>>116664446It reads more like>books I've read when I started reading capeshit or heard are good>books I read later>books I read recently
>>116664565How can you ever come to this conclusion with how spread out those titles are. Which of your favourite books did I put in worst events, Anon?
>>116664446>Putting Scourge above Conquest
>>116664592Scourge was fun.Annihilation Conquest is the worst part of DnA cosmic up until the end of Thanos Imperative.
How in the world? Not nearly. Everyone is in character, events are transpiring through a logical plot sequence. Maybe it's a not as exciting as some but Age of Ultron, Secret Invasion, Original Sin, Axis, AvX, IvX, Avengers: Disassembled, all the X events since like Messiah Complex are all worse.
>>116664446>World War Hulk
>>116664586All the autism that went into making this list and someone just shat on it. SAD!
>>116660104Doubt. Those were two excellent Avengers stories during a time when the regular Avengers book (by woke Waid) was only so-so.
>>116646745Nowhere near the worst event, but not the best either.
>>116664619Come on, the whole messiah trilogy was great, maybe overdone seriously x-men books are dealing with fallout up to this day but great nonetheless.
>>116646970You have to be retarded if you think Empyre is worse than Ultimatum and Civil War 2.
>>116664705not only did Waid co-write No Surrender, No Road Home was concurrent with Aaron's Avengers, not Waid's.
>>116664690Literally took me 60 seconds, but live in your fantasy
>>116664842No need to get upset then, friendo.
>>116664884Seeing emotions that aren't there is an early sign of autism, Anon. I'm relaxed eating a chicken burger & a can of coke while I reread Jenkins Sentry.
>>116664446Fear Itself is good.Great Immonen art, no character assassinations or forced hero vs hero drama. Really solid fight between Thor and the possessed Hulk/Thing.The Incredible Iron Man tie in issues were great.Some cool designs especially Skadi.It's at heart a Cap & Thor story which is rare most of the time it's Cap and Tony.
>>116664899Weird how you can't stop replying ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
>>116665021I just love a good (You).
>>116664446solid list, even though i disagree with a few
>>116649620do you mean AGE OF X-MAN? or actually Age of X?because if you actually mean Age of X, you're a fucking idiot
>>116665039hire people who don't know how to draw classic heroes
>>116664782>>116664724kek, two fair critiques of my hot takes
>>116662956>that is legitimately much better
>>116665968considering she's looked like Savage Hulk with long hair in Aaron Avengers, yes, a normal face and slightly more realistic proportions is much better.
>>116656404look at her expression "durr how did it turn out like this?????"
>>116660197That smoothbrain can't even read the page he posted. Actual readers also know that Veranke is dead as shit. Stormin' Norman shot a giant hole in her head in an event that has been mentioned multiple times ITT. I didn't like Secret Invasion much, mostly because of Bendis' shit pacing, the main book could've been told I'm half the time, but the effect on the universe was pretty good. Tie-in stories line wide worked well (The Initiative, Murder Carol, Captain Britain & MI13) and Dark Reign afterward was cool.
>>116666166now to be fair, everyone thought R'klll was also dead as shit
Fear Itself was such a disappointment. Excellent Immonen art, cool gimmick with the hammers and the hero armor, great marketing and the basic idea was decent enough. But Fraction just kinda shit the bed and every resolution landed with a thud.
>>116666132how did me trying to hurt Tony result in Tony getting hurt?
>>116646745Civil War II still exists
>>116659674Those weren't events, we were talking about her roles in events since Civil War 2.
>>116655592It's not the same artist imbecile
>>116664446>Secret Wars (3)>AXIS>Infinity>Dark Reign>Secret Wars 2>House of M>Siege>Dead No More: The Clone ConspiracyAll trash.>Realm of Kings>DC vs. Marvel>Kraven's Last Hunt>Gauntlet / Grim Hunt>Korav Saga>Kree/Skrull War>Heroes RebornNot events.You didn't even list the Starlin events.
>>116646745>civil war>original sin>time runs out/secret wars 5(?)>secret empire>siegeThis event is gonna have to try pretty hard to earn the title.
>>116666123>realistic proportions is much better.Look, your majesty is present
>>116668503oh so you prefer Grug She-Hulk
>>116648117Deodato using some touched up Transformers model in Poser
>>116646745Cates will unironically show Ewing how to make a successful event with good reviews and great sales.
>>116669995Cates couldn't write a good story with a gun to his head
>>116670089Non sequitur, King in Black or whatever it's called is going to take a dump on Empyre and Marvel knows it.Also comics writers aren't real writers, comics aren't literature.
>>116670152It'll be just another entry in Cates's trash pile.
The Cates seething on /co/ is always really funny
>>116670259I mentioned him and immediately get his n°1 fan replying to me, if I post again in 10h and bring up Cates again he's going to reply to me within the minute, isn't he?
>>116646745Not the worst, just boring.
>>116650412Sword of the Self.
>>116660458AnnihilationHoXPoX was an excellent event as well.
>>116671426HoXPoX wasn't an event
>>116671548It does a better job at being an Event than Heroes in Crisis and Event Leviathan did.
>>116670152Wasn't Thor going to find something about his origin in his cancelled mini? I bet they are going to repurpose that pitch for a Knull mini.
>>116660458It's not perfect but I enjoyed Annihilation and the first Secret Wars.
>>116671590just because Benis and King are hacks doesn't mean HoXPoX was an event
>>116664935The way it killed Bucky was shit but of course Brubaker couldn't let Fraction off his favorite charact.
>>116664618I liked the Guardian and Nova parts of Conquest but I couldn't care less about the shit happening with Phyla, Adam, and I didn't even bother with the Wraith shit.
>>116660458I really liked Annihilation and Thanos Imperative.
>>116671590Doesn't make it an event