Best (fem)boy edition
>>3783594you need to post 5-6 images when starting a new thread
>>3783599Oopsies, will do then.
>>3783606Of all the possible paintings to represent Italy ...
>>3783604Nice to see a picture that accurately represents the vibe of the UK
Germany is so hot jesus man. Now I get why chicks really liked this show in the early 2010s.
He trooned out
>>3788345Play nice anon
>>3788650where is this image from? can't seem to find it with the usual search engines
>>3789705musan312.lofter.comChinese fanartists are on a whole nother man.
>>3783594my favourite scene from world stars lmao
>>3791990>My 4000 years old country can't be this cute!
Do you sometimes wish hetalia characters' relationships were more accurate to their irl relationships with other countries?It's a bit weird seeing Lithuania have a huge crush on Belarus, or Belarus and Ukraine being a little happy family with Russia post-ussr.
>>3792463Yes and it doesn't even have to be a full dark depiction of all the countries' broken relationships because we know Himaruya fundamentally wants Hetalia to be a comedy, but you know, making South Korea be a weird perv that likes groping Japan or portraying China as a silly grandpa desperate for Japan's validation is definitely a choice, especially coming from a Japanese...
>>3792463but then everyone would hate each other
>>3792503Wouldn't at least the baltics be friends?
>>3792463Sometimes I do, but then I realize we wouldn't have scenes like these >>3791990
>>3792463Yes and that goes for a more realistic or historically accurate portray of their characters as well but I don't know how much Hetalia would have survived as a serious or a dark comedy series. Still, it's awkward to see China and Japan being on friendly terms in modern days, Axis trio still being close and hanging out together or Lithuania and Poland still being BFFs (and I say this as a LietPolfag) when the relationship between their countries irl is... a bit complicated to say the least. Even to this day, I still can't understand why Himaruya barely acknowledges the strong friendship bond between Poland and Hungary.
>>3792514Also India and China with Russia, no? India and China don't really get along but they're pretty close to Russia. China also has a no limits partnership or something like that with Russia.
>>3792535>strong friendship bond between poland and hungaryKek
>>3792546>China also has a no limits partnership with RussiaYes, but the partnership actually has limits lol... but still, it'd be fun if Himaruya adapted whatever the hell is going on with Russia and China.
>>3792580HOLY KEK those headlines are hilarious
Can you guys please post more Germany. Please and thank you :DDD
>>3792576Why do you find that sentence funny anon?
>>3792580I get why americans are worried about russia and china but why do they have to call their partnership a "marriage", "love affair" and "honeymoon"? It sounds gay as fuck.
>>3792698Those damned gay commies
>>3792754kill yourself. nichu 4 life
>>3792823Don't start retarded shipping wars here, you guys can co-exist.
>>3792823don't they hate each other?
>>3792827in reality, yes, in the anime, no
>>3792827Yes, the japanese government is literally buying a lot of american weapons and the jp media is basically on "war with china is inevitable" and "china will definitely invade taiwan soon" mode right now. But they're chill in Hetalia.
>>3792827Japan, China and South Korea all hate each other but in Himaruya's world everyone loves Japan. He also kind of makes fun of koreans asking Japan for compensation for all the war crimes Japan committed against them.
>>3792832>He also kind of makes fun of koreans asking Japan for compensation for all the war crimes Japan committed against themkek good
>>3792827The characters are meant to represent the culture and people of a country not the governments bro, you'll be hard pressed to find many people who genuinely hate others from other countries, even China and Japan
>>3792846Ok, hate is a strong word, yes, but a lot of them seem to resent each other at least on some level. Sure, there's kpop, anime, manga, chinese gachas and danmei, but tensions aren't good between them. Koreans and Chinese always lose their shit whenever a Japanese politian visits the Yasukuni shrine because some WWII Class-A war criminals were buried there, so to them, it's as if the politicians were honoring the people who massacred their ancestors and that's a no-no.Koreans are still asking Japan for reparations to this day and are currently protesting because the Korean president just agreed the other day that the korean victims of forced labor enforced by the japanese would be compensated by korean companies instead of japanese ones, and now koreans are out in the streets calling their own president a traitor.The Chinese literally celebrated when Abe died. There were videos of Abe death themed parties and cakes lmao.
Can we please not talk about politics
>>3792852>t. Himaruya Hidekaz
>>3792832I wonder why Hima dislikes south korea but not china
>>3792857South Koreas are like Americans of asia. Very westernized, very rude, have a moral high horse, no regard for traditional values, and they see all other like the Chinese and Japanese people as the root of their issues instead of combating their internal issues. They also are very humorless so it's fun to poke jokes at them.Hima should do more bits, they are really funny
>>3792857Funnily enough, it's the same for Abe. He respects the Chinese and thinks they're great psychological strategists, but visibly dislikes Koreans.https://twitter.com/kenmoriyasu/status/1623318021061357574https://twitter.com/kenmoriyasu/status/1623318022932013056>>3792859I suppose they see Koreans as whiny kids.
>>3792832>>3792857Kek I just realized this. Notice how Hima acknowledges japan's crimes and betrayal against china but completely disregards korea's demands regarding ww2 as "Japan, you're going to owe me lunch because an artist drew a scene of you bullying me a long time ago". No wonder korea banned hetalia.
>>3792862>I suppose they see Koreans as whiny kids.Definitely something like that. I remember a bit ago there was a small village in Japan that's was majority Korean immigrants and they tried to pass local legislation that WA anti-japanese. Of course they failed to do so and in response the South Koren government called the Japanese government racist and xenophobic. They think that because one bad thing happened to them long ago it gives them the right to hold all of asia accountable and demand unreasonable things from them.
>>3792867>all of asiai.e., Japan and China.The Koreans have never asked of my people anything but that we leave their country because of our racial inferiority. Jerks.>one bad thinglol>>3792857Not hard to answer: Koreans have always been at the bottom of the Japanese racial calendar, and have been like that for centuries.What you see in >>3792859 , for example, is a post hoc justification for a sentiment that has deep historical roots. The Japanese don't need a reason to dislike KoreansWhat was the first thing the Japanese did after the Kanto quake in 1923?Form mobs and mass lynch Koreans and commies, up to 6000 of them.After a quake, you'd think recovery would be the first thing on people's minds, but you see, the Japanese at the time had more important priorities.Mind you, this was before the war: it got significantly worse during.I don't wish to defend the Koreans, I have no particular fondness for them, as they think of my people as a funny Untermensch race, and they make fun of us, but I would rather Japan's weird politics not be downplayed>>3792851>Chinese literally celebrated when Abe diedAnd there were protests against Abe at his own funeral in his native Japan, he was not an uncontroversial politician.The Chinese would have comparatively little reason to react that way to the deaths of most other Japanese PMs.I would rarely ever agree with the Mainland Chinese on political stuff, since their state is a genocidal abomination that screws my people over constantly ... but I would drink with them to this
>>3792463>more accurateOh, absolutely. Seeing Hetalia miss out on some very basic facts kinda irks me, because I'm into that kind of stuff, and I otherwise really enjoy the comic.And not just relationships between countries, but also relationships within countries themselves:- why can Italy have two halves, but India's just the one country? same question for: China, Germany, Russia, America- did twelve other countries die for Alfred Jones to be born?- why aren't modern Scotland and England tearing at each other's throats constantly?>>3792652because ukraine, anon>>3792503how is that a problem>>3792546Ehhh ...India and Russia are close, since the USSR came to India's aid back in the Cold War, when the West was busy funding India's deranged neighbor/nemesis Pakistan. Not going Jai Sri Ram here, that's cringe shit, but Pakistan is legit a nuthouse.China and Russia have only very recently been close, they were feuding through most of the Cold War.Xi and Putin's friendly relationship has helped Sino-Russian relations, but after Ukraine, China's become wary of publicly supporting Russia, because at the end of the day, there's little room for friendship in international relations.I also saw someone theorize that Russia and China may feud again over control of the Arctic as global warming makes it more navigable, so that's another thing to consider. That's if Russia doesn't become a vassal state of China in the coming years.Also, they could kinda solve each other's population problems: China's got too many dudes, Russia's got too many chicks. They could have an arrangement ...>>3792846>hard pressed to find many people who genuinely hate others from other countriesback to the 60s with you, flower child>represent the culture and people of a country not the governmentsVery questionable, given how Hetalia tends to give importance only to state-level organizations and not so much culturally distinct subregions
>>3793078>>3793080Hate does not come unjustified, koreans deserve every bit of it.
>>3792832>in Himaruya's world everyone loves JapanKinda true.What other non-Anglo nation has as much continuing soft power cultural influence as Japan? Everyone loves nipshit, and for good reason, shit's cool and pretty
>>3793081call me when the koreans rape nanjing
>>3793080Kek yeah, with Hungary having a not-so-transparent pro-russian government and other V4 (or better said Poland and Czechia) being extremely russophobic, the country's even more of a black sheep in the group now.
>>3793087>even moreHuh. I kinda assumed they were mostly cool with Hungary before the war ... at least, Poland was
>>3793078>their state is a genocidal abomination that screws my people over constantlyWhere are you from, anon? Taiwan, the Philippines, Myanmar... or India?
>>3793082No wonder why Japan is a big mary sue within the nip fandom. At least it makes a bit of sense in their case since so many people from different countries are fascinated with Japan's culture, media and history, unlike with sea fans before Philippines got a canon male design, from their point of view everyone wanted to bang Maria Salome Dela Cruz because she was colonized by so many countries.
>>3793091Don't forget Vietnam and Mongolia
>>3793091>>3793095I'm guessing he's indian?>"The Koreans have never asked of my people anything but that we leave their country because of our racial inferiority">"as they think of my people as a funny Untermensch race, and they make fun of us">"when the West was busy funding India's deranged neighbor/nemesis Pakistan"
>>3793093Every people thinks they're the center of the universe.India had the Portuguese, Dutch, English, and French all setting camp in the colonial rush, and you don't see any Filipinos thinking everyone wants to bang India.It kinda is weird that the Philippines got a guy -- every Filipino I know personifies the Philippines as a chick. It's faaar from the biggest misstep from Hetalia, but still.
>>3793090Except for slovaks, Hungary had a good relationship with V4 despite often being the butt of their jokes. Now everyone is a bit wary of them, even their bffs poles.
>>3793099Seinfeld voice: What's the deal with Slovaks?I'm only aware of Central European nations insofar as they have some level of cultural affinity, i.e., I mistake the one food for the other's often
>>3793098Speaking of missteps, I'm still disappointed that Ireland is a guy. He's got a nice design but we already have too many dicks in Hetalia plus almost everyone wanted Ireland to be a girl.
>>3793098I've seen that thing in the latam community too, especially Mexico. They ship Mexico with every country that shows the slightest interest in investing in their country. Does that happen in India too? Do India x Britain shippers exist?
>>3793100I'm too tired to explain right now but tl;dr: some hungarians believe Slovakia is rightfully magyar clay.
>>3793108Oh, cool, irredentism, lemme just put that in my folder "hungary_receipts">>3793101>everyone wanted Ireland to be a girlFandom thing or Irish thing>too many dicksRemember where you are, anon.I actually agree, though, too much sausage at this smorgasbord.I just headcanon the countries that don't have an official hetagijinka as girls. Which means most of Africa.Africa's really fun to conceptualize for, as the dumbass colonial borders are a great stresstest for the "countries-as-people" concept Hetalia's built on.Oh, also "sensitive" regions, like Tibet. Also, defunct historical states, like Bavaria, or Carthage, or Bukhara, or Srivijaya.Is Srivijaya just Indonesia? Questionable, as it's also kinda Malaysia.State succession in Hetalia keeps me up at night.Like, if the Italy Bros. are distinct from the Roman Empire, then what about modern China and the Zhou, or, like, the Qing, or the Warring States? To what extent can a successor state "succeed" the old one and retain the same gijinka?China in particular is a massive headache, here are some dirty links that get into why:old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/11l24tjold.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/9yg341The impression I get is that China today could still be the same one from Jesus times if we think of China as an imagined central heaven-mandated government uniting ethnically/culturally distinct regions throughout history.While I can kiiinda see Han China eventually turning into the PRC, I have no idea what happens to those "ethnically/culturally distinct regions" Hetalia-wise, especially the ones that existed as pretenders to the Imperial throne, like, whatever happened to the Jurchen who formed the Jin Dynasty, and the ex-Jurchen who created the Qing dynasty?They must have gotten their own mascot at one point or another. Fuckin Sealand has one
>>3793206India in comparison is a much clearer situation: Hetalia's just plain wrong about just one India. Not even just in the sense of modern North and South India being just as valid as North and South Italy, I mean historically, India was multiple states with distinct governments and cultures. Unlike China, South Asians rarely seemed to self-identify under just one central national concept besides the brief periods of total unification under powerful warlords, like Queen Victoria. Her British Raj basically created India as we know it, a mostly unified country.Speaking of India,>>3793102My initial question was "does anyone even ship India???," and a quick Google search told me that, not only is that the case, but Engdia is probably the only major ship for India. Which is ... immensely entertaining, given the Madras famine. Famines.And like the Philippines, I also imagined India initially as a chick.nitter.it/h_ikusaa/status/1282764394129174529It just makes more sense to me.>investinglol, not even colonizing>>3793109Oh, Russia's not smiling in this one. Makes more sense, Russians are not known for smiling, I always thought Russia's perpetual grin was odd.>>3792698>why do they have to call their partnership a "marriage", "love affair" and "honeymoon"Fujos in high places.
>>3793206>old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/9yg341I reckon the First Emperor from Qin was the one who started the whole idea of a unified empire with a common language, writting system, currency, laws, etc, after his army conquered all the other warring states, not the Mongols. And ever since the fall of the Qin (until the fall of the Qing), all the fractured provinces of each fallen dynasty fought among themselves not to be independent per se, but to determine which one of them would be the one to rule, unify everything again and expand the ever growing empire. But after the fall of the Qing, many conquered "provinces" like Mongolia, Tibet and Xinjiang (among others) seeked true independence, but as we know, the Kuomintang did not like this and tried to get all the territories back as it believed it was the rightful heir to the Qing, the Communists were not different regarding this, but in the end recognized the independence of Mongolia or "Outer" Mongolia. Also while the Mongols were indeed a foreign force that conquered the chinese, they willingly tried to fit in instead of imposing their systems onto the them, the Mongols were well known for embracing multiculturalism. >The impression I get is that China today could still be the same one from Jesus times if we think of China as an imagined central heaven-mandated government uniting ethnically/culturally distinct regions throughout history.Yeah, that's basically the way the chinese see chinese history, as a chinese civilization state rather than a nation state.>I have no idea what happens to those "ethnically/culturally distinct regions" Hetalia-wiseThey should get their own character tbf>the ones that existed as pretenders to the Imperial throne, like, whatever happened to the Jurchen who formed the Jin Dynasty, and the ex-Jurchen who created the Qing dynasty?I guess they were eaten by Yao.
>>3793223>They should get their own character tbfNot that anon, but some of China's provinces were shown in the manga. That means Tibet and Xinjiang definitely have characters of their own too, Himaruya just needs to introduce them properly.
>>3793224Tibet has a canon design too but he was replaced by a literal panda in the anime adaptation of that comic strip for obvious reasons.
>>3793223>fit inAnd not just the Mongols: most of China's neighbors who had taken the throne eventually sinicized themselves. Rarely did conquering foreigners change China to suit them, it was almost always the other way around>the Communists were not different regarding thisTotally. I favor the idea that, despite Marx, the PRC and the USSR were in practice extensions of historical imperialist regimes>civilization state rather than a nation stateVery useful point. I think that kind of polity has been historically more prominent: Rome, Persia, the Ottomans. The nation state concept as a global norm has been a thing only rather recently.The question is, why did Hetalia make China turn into ... itself, while Rome became the Italys?I would guess because the Western Roman Empire collapsed in its entirety, and its successors reemerged centuries later, and despite them sharing a language and legal code with the WRE, they had an entirely different ideal of self-identification.Unlike the Chinese dynasties, the Medieval European states didn't see themselves as the continuation of Rome, but as successors>own characterlegit>YaoEmperor?>>3793224I understand that he's drinking boba there, but it also kinda looks like he's drinking pure tapioca, some sludge like ambuyat. Funny idea>some of China's provinces were shownThank you, anon, this changes everything.If the example of China is indicative, then it's likely that most other states operate on a "house" system wherein there are gijinka representative of significant/distinct regions, and one gijinka for the whole union. This is likely also the case with America, India, Ethiopia.One issue though: there's no UK. There's the UK bros, but no individual representing the whole union besides England.Could this indicate that the state as a "house" is a case-by-case basis, wherein some states have a Union-state that represents them in their entirety and others are represented by their most powerful representative?
>>3793254Alternatively, China could be representative of the cultural region where the centralizing power is present, i.e., Beijing ... but the capital had been moved multiple times, so it's likely a case-by-case thing, with England, Russia, and Turkey as just the most significant powers, while China, India, and America are representatives of the whole union.There's also the issue of which regions of China get representation. Perhaps some of the provinces could be seen as the successors of historical kingdoms, and the ones that aren't are would likely often be new, and they'd be little babies like Sealand?I think India could have a similar system. I think India would be, like, the successor of the client state that was the British Raj, which could be ... Bengal? Kolkata is where the British were mostly set-up, after all. Delhi could have its own person, as could Kashmir, Punjab, and definitely the Tamil. Some important questions for India: a. which states are successors to importantdefunct states like the Mughal and Maratha, and b. what the fuck do you do with the literally hundreds of princely states?>Himaruya just needs to introduce themMaybe he has no plans to introduce some of them. How the hell is he gonna do the Uighurs in a way that wouldn't unseat the South Korea incident as the most controversial incident in Hetalia's history?Either they're all buddy-buddy, or Xinjiang is naked and chained up on the cold basement floor, and both are terrible options.For that matter, how the hell would Hetalia do places like Palestine? Whatever it would do, I assure you: it would be hilarious
Anyone got a source for this>>3793234>literal pandafuckin epic.And I don't like how Hetalia holds out on bishieness with certain countries. Why isn't Turkey a twink? The Ottomans loved twinks! -- too much desu, got pretty rapey. I also disagree with the Tibet design, not everyone there is a monk, especially now as the PRC investing billions since the 90s to make it less ... Tibetan. If countries had to look like their ruling class, then Arthur would be balding like the crown prince.Tibet should be more like:i.pinimg.com/originals/22/45/54/2245549f020a5c5f2a4a34b89b5e9791.jpg
>>3793254>Emperor?Yao Wang, the human name for China.
>>3793257Thanks for the reminder. I thought you were making a reference to the Battle of Suiyang.Also, I hope this doesn't become canon, I don't wanna get vore enthusiasts up in here.Also, are you aware of the other famous character named Arthur Kirkland?
>>3793259>are you aware of the other famous character named Arthur Kirkland?I wouldn't be surprised if not, this thread is LACKING in pictures of him
>>3793263You wouldn't be surprised if what?
>>3793257>Wang Yao 王耀>王 = king or monarch, best or strongest of its type, grand, great, to rule, to reign over>耀 = shine, sparkle, dazzle, gloryInteresting
>>3793266What does Honda Kiku mean?
>>3793268Honda Kiku 本田菊本 = book; present; main; origin; true; counter for long cylindrical things田 = rice field; rice paddy菊 = chrysanthemum
>>3793271wow what a gay fcking name
>>3793256I love Turkey's design desu, I unironically find him one of the hottest Hetalia guys. I like bishies too but I wouldn't say no to more hunks like him, Cameroon, Germany, Netherlands, etc.
>>3793292I didn't know Netherlands counted as a hunk, I just thought he was really tall.I don't actually mind Turkey's design per se, I actually like a diversely designed cast, and the Turkey design is hot, and that's what matters. I just thought of Turkey as principally hunky being a thing mostly in Victorian-era porn for bored housewives, and my hatred for Fifty Shades is related to my hatred of The Sheik, so I'm not too into that character trope
>>3793364Everything you just said was insane
i enjoy to be gay
>>3793370Believe it or not, I am aware of that.
>Yet another chapter about a main 8 character>Hima introducing once again another micronation that no one asked forWhy can't we have chapters about characters that are undeveloped or haven't appeared for a while or unexplored relationship dynamics between nations that had little to no interaction in Hetalia instead? Does anyone even care about micronations?
>>3793599>>3793600>>3793602>>3793605>>3793606Just do a mass quote instead of spamming, retard.
>>3793608thats a great idea, anon
>>3793607i like sealand...
>>3793599>>3793600>>3793605>>3793606>>3793610Why are you doing this, anon?
>>3785193 >>3785192hounzaqwq>>3787921 >>3787922 >>3788641 >>3788643 >>3788644 >>3788647 >>3788648musan312>>3783608uka402>>3785195Otsuyaoyatsu, maybe>>3785193 >>3785192hounzaqwq>>3793109junqianzi723>>3792478 >>3792477airshikongqi>>3792971JRJane / JR_Jane / PixivID_3380085>>3792744 >>3792745 >>3792746 >>3792747 >>3792749 >>3792751 >>3792752 >>3792753 >>3792754ox79xo / PixivID_2641219
>>3793681liked the art
>>3793639Me too, he's so cute!
To the anons posting art from Lofter, what tags do you use to find art of specific characters?
>>3793719I use 王耀 for Yao, 弗朗西斯·波诺弗瓦 for Francis, 露中 for Rochu, and 金钱组 for Amechu.Fun fact: Amechu is called "Money Team" in the CN fandom because no matter how much they bicker, Yao and Alfred are still bound to each other by money / trade / supply chains.
>>3793663What’s wrong, anon? Can you not handle the cuteness?
>>3793727>no matter how much they bicker, Yao and Alfred are still bound to each other by money / trade / supply chainsMore points to the Chinese side of the fandom.Hetalia headcanons are so often the dumbest fucking things I have ever seen, but that one is very accurate.
>>3793607>or unexplored relationship dynamics between nations that had little to no interaction in Hetalia instead?>tfw no Prussia on viking excavations in Norway
>>3783607Source for the love of God
>>3793852Eastern asians, especially chinese fans, are better at writing Hetalia fanfics and headcanons than their western counterparts by a lot.
>>3793727What does the chinese name for rochu mean?
>>3793917It just means rochu. Russia used to be called 露国 or 露西亜 in japanese (nowadays it's just ロシア), so the chinese fans took the 露 kanji and paired it with the 中 kanji in 中国 which means China in japanese (and also in chinese).So, 露中 means rochu or lù zhōng if you use the chinese pronounciation of the characters.
>>3793962>>3793963>>3793964>>3793966>>3793967>>3793969>>3793970>>3793971>>3793972>>3793973I love Lithuania's facial expressions in this chapter, glad we're seeing more of his cynical side.
>>3793607>Does anyone even care about micronations?Shotacons
>>3793962>A list of nations who aren't working hard enough to be my friendslmao is this poking fun at russia's list of "unfriendly countries" irl?
>>3794023It's very likely. Russia officially unveiled its list of unfriendly countries in May 2021 and that story came out just 2 months after that.
CUM ON INGERLAND
loved that England fag since I was younger lol I’m glad there’s more art of him here lately
>>3794539Is this also airshikongqi
how come none of you bitches bothered linking to the new threadnew thread >>3795066
>>3795590It's been twelve hours, of course I'm relaxed
>>3795595No way your so mad
>>3795607Oh, totally. Livid. Enraged. I could shoot a bird, anon, I'm so mad.