Kaworu thinks Asuka is dumb editionPrevious Thread: >>3639950
Kaworu loves Asuka edition
>>3640784Anno is based for making Kaworu say that.
>>3640797>>3640798Imagine the hatesex
I am become more mysogynistic.
>>3640799Why do you ship Asuka with someone who hates her?
>>3640803Why do you ship Kaworu with an ugly faggot that never did anything for him?
>>3640802Holy fucking ESL
>>3640804Why are you dodging the question?
>>3640803They shit on Shinji for treating Asuka like a doll but then ship her with someone who doesn't treat her well either.
>>3640805imagine being this uneducated and clueless
>>3640805fuck. not even, I’m a native enlgish speaker, my mind is just deteriorating
>>3640808Surely you don’t think Kaworu teasing her is the same as Shinji trying to fucking kill her
>>3640804Why do you call someone much better looking than you ugly?
>>3640811>teasingNah, he just doesn't like her.
These past days have been cancer
>>3640811>>3640808I like his better morality here. Maybe he would have also stopped draft from self harming?
>>3640816Asuka attacked Shinji here for kissing her beloved boyfriend Kaworu
The shit ending Anno gave /eva/ surely helped divide the fanbase even more than before, those past threads between "shinjifujos" and "kaworufags" were fucking hilarious
>>3640826>"kaworufags"You mean kaworuyumes?
>>3640826>>3640829It's "yumebitches" actually.
>>3640818Karl was merely her trophy boyfriend she bribed with Lilim gifts like store bought sweets. of course he never loved her and would leave the moment he found someone cuter He’s a Tomcat
>>3640815The guys who make the daily Eva bait threads on /a/ that usually occupy the shitposters must've gotten a week ban or something. I wouldn't even mind the dumb spam if it were at least clever, but there's only so much balding dicklet tranny Shinji stuff you can take before it becomes stale, you know?
>>3640815Karlfag tranny ruined these threads
>>3640843And yumes ruined them even more
>>3640844Yumes did nothing wrong
>>3640843yeah>>3640844also yeah but I wonder how many actual yumes there are aside from the one anti-shinji schizo, most of the "yumes" are probably just tourists looking to start shit for fun
>>3640845They should've posted pictures of cute males and shut up
Kaworu > Kaji > Fuyutsuki > Kensuke > Toji > Gendo > Shit > Shinji
>>3640849>Kaworu > Kaji > Fuyutsuki > Kensuke > Toji > Gendo > Shit > Yume Landwhales Fixed it for you
>>3640826>implying it's not the same person again
Why do yumes ship Kaworu with Asuka when he gets more straight ship pandering with Rei? He's with Rei at the end of rebuild, not Asuka.
>>3640897>got like 2 pics in those 20 years>subtle hints are...they're talking with each other>KAWOREI BEST SHIP EVER!This is so retarded, the fanbase is retarded, everything happened in this movie is retarded
>>3640897Tsundere x confident chad is a popular dynamic, plus there's the whole guardian angel thing going on with Kaworu.I guess yumes find Kaworei boring?
>>3640935>Tsundere x confident chad is a popular dynamicIt's popular when the characters actually like each other. We haven't seen Kaworu and Asuka interact properly in canon, not to mention they dislike each other in that spin off written by Anno.
>>3640939I assume most of kawoasu shippers are asukafags, they want to see Kaworu giving Asuka love she needs like Shinji
>>3640932>Spend 25+ years coming up with incresingly schizo explanations as to why "I love you" is not inherently romantic>Immediately assume romantic intent because of two people are standing next to one anotherAnd they call fujos delusional
>>3640939And you're telling me this because? Everyone knows that.
>>3640935>Tsundere x confident chad is a popular dynamicThere already is a patrician version of that
>>3640935>I guess yumes find Kaworei boring?It’s this. Rei’s boring personality doesn’t really work in a romantic ship with Kaworu in comparison to Asuka’s firey one. That’s why everyone prefers Kaworei as siblings.
>>3640939They share a friendly interaction in Death & Rebirth tbf
>>3640949Asuka snaps at him for being late and he laughs and says sorry, a cute little exchange that’s apparently enough for dozens of people to start shipping them and making doujins of them together
>>3640849Fuyustuki > Jet Alone guy > Kensuke > Kaji> Toji > Kaworu > Shinji > Gendo
>>3640947I agree, Rei would go better with a much stronger (and extroverted) personality, which I suppose is how a few people seem to like Asurei. Contrast is interesting. Imo Shinji and Kaworu are similar enough that their personalities or values don't clash badly, but are different enough that there is still some tension in their dynamic; visually too. I love studying this sort of stuff
>>3640967>which I suppose is how a few people seem to like AsureiI wonder how popular Asurei would be among fujos if they were dudes
>>3640967>Rei would go better with a much stronger (and extroverted) personalityRei's most popular ship is reishin and Shinji isn't exactly someone with an extroverted personality. People like reishin even though their relationship is very vanilla.
>>3640983>Shinji isn't exactly someone with an extroverted personality. People like reishin even though their relationship is very vanilla.Shinji's loud and whiny (I say this with fondness) so it works kek. Plus he's the one that takes the initiative in their relationship
>>3640988But he isn't loud and whiny with her.>Plus he's the one that takes the initiative in their relationshipTrue, although that kind of changed in 2.0 a little bit when Rei took the initiative to organize a dinner party for him and his father.
>>3640798they look kinda the same except with different colors
Kek someone went to ube-shinkawa station to check kaworu's height. He's approx. 183cm/6'0https://twitter.com/5thRMEL/status/1444531356541722630?s=19
Is there any good indicator of adult Shinji's height in the train scene? I imagine he's pretty tall since Gendo was like 6'3
>>3640989I guess what I mean is that Shinji is bolder when it comes to Rei, so to speak, and that's appealing to your average male viewer that also self-inserts as him but doesn't care about or doesn't want Asushin or Asuka. Maybe extroverted shouldn't have been the word, the point is that they have different things going on in their characters that adds the good kind of variety and keeps the relationship from being too monotonous/samey
>>3640999Anno's height since he's already got the ears and all
>>3641002>>3640999Exactly, he’s anime Anno not Shinji so base all aspects from hair loss to big ears and small dick on him
>>3641002Well how tall is Anno anyways? I tried looking it up and one source says he's 5'11 while another says he's 6'3, which are both pretty tall for a japanese man
>>3641014I guess when you’re lacking in hair and dick something has to give
>Be Karl, vid rel blocks your path https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=__bxbkEwfp8 [Open]Wat do?
>tfw no umbrella scene
>>3641043Will four eyes get his glasses broken?
>>3641015How I wish I could permanently eliminate that information from my conscious.
>>3641051All your sex fantasies are now replaced by naked anno
Once Upon A Dream
>>3641067kaworu drank too much wine
>>3641141That doesn't look safe
>>3640975A lot more popular than kawoshin
>>3641196Didn't click + kys
>>3641060Ever wonder if Japan’s lack of acceptance for gays is why lots of Fujo make Shinji the girl for their good end loops?That way kawoshin don’t get pressure to marry women, can get married and have kids.
>>3641207The timeline we needed but didn’t deserve. Shinji getting the book to try and protect Kaworu
>>3641140>>3641141>>3641142>manly ShinjiGod I love these. I hate the way nip fujos make him look like an effeminate tranny most of the time
>>3641246Sadamoto is a fujo?Also it’s funny and very unique for a 90s lead. Possibly his only unique design quirk.
shut up and just post cute kawoshin i hate every single one of you
>>3641251cute and effeminate shinjiwife
>>3641246Blame Anno and co for making him an effeminate tranny
>>3641249Cat ears are the ultimate upgrade for Shinji
>>3641246>I hate the way nip fujos make him look like an effeminate tranny most of the timeSame, looks gross to me
>>3641254This is the first image I saw related to Evangelion and I thought Shinji was a girl until I saw him in his uniform
>>3641254Do you also think Kaworu is gross since he’s another female derived design? For some reason Sadamoto went draw a girl with his boys
>>3641258 they said Sadamoto wanted a female lead for Eva and got shot down so to be funny he went draw a girlAnd it worked
>>3641259I'm not Emily, It's just that Shinji IS an effeminate character and the only people who I see try to deny it when artists exploit that side of him are shinkawofags because of b-bb--but muh top can't act like a grilll aaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
>>3641262Shinji topping and being more sexually aggressive despite being effeminate and shrimpdicked would be hilarious and goodToo bad it isn’t done enough
Can we just acknowledge the fact that Reichu admitted lurking /cm/
>>3641255they look so cute on him but dog eared shinji is true justice
>>3641269Why? She's been doing that for years
>>3641269Is anyone surprised? At least she doesn't shitpost here as hard as Felipe.
>>3641275That artist really likes to draw him with gyno
>>3641271Maybe for anime and rebuild but I can’t see manga as anything but a rescue cat. Sadamoto even compared KSR to cats
>>3641246love Jo's art, she's definitely a new favorite of mine. also has anyone noticed that shinkawo seems more popular after final? maybe it's just me but i've been seeing a lot more of it recently
>>3641262actually josou seme is patrician, more artists should draw kaworu getting topped by a girly shinji
>>3641288Word, someone convince Chika to do it
>>3641287That's because Kaworu cries in this movie and since he was already considered moe, this made him 100000000000000000 times more moe than before in the eyes of fans. Shinkawofags are just doing the same Kawoshinfags are guilty of here, making Kaworu a borderline cute uwu character
>>3641294He gets more delicate with each loop. Kaworu spirit erosion. How many more loops before he would’ve just broken?
>>3641294Their design and androgyny makes kawoshin fem4fem tbhfam
>>3641295mob x kaworu mindbreak doujin when
>>3641297I’m looking through old Q era pixiv stuff there probably is here since they uploaded a lot https://www.pixiv.net/users/1987225/artworks/カヲシンThey did an age gap older Shinji too but he isn’t a groomer or ugly. Odd but it’s cool that they had him inherit his mother’s job
I only ever see fujos "confuse" Shinji for a girl
>>3641300Or anyone that took a glance at an Eva tv episode where his design and voice confused them
Wonder if people would complain about draftworu being too effeminate
>>3641311probably yeah, evafags complain about literally everything
>>3641311draftworu makes my mind go places..
>>3641252>cute and effeminate shinjiwifeBest and most unique version of their MC
>>3641300Not when I was in highschool and tried to get my friends into Eva, they would confuse Shinji for a girl too
>>3641346Would they have shipped “her” and Kaworu?
>>3641331i have to agree>>3641280quite based
>>3641346I can see someone mistaking him for a girl from just seeing still images, desu. The headpiece looks like a set of hairclips and the raised part of the plugsuit's chestplate looks kind of like boobs. That and the Eva sameface makes all the child characters look the same anyways, but in motion I don't see how anyone could confuse him for a girl
>>3641348Nah>>3641360This is what I meant when I said that. Watching an episode I don't think you can really think he's a girl, but looking at some random official art and screenshots it's possible
>>3641353>basedInb4Also reflexively acting effeminate despite trying his hardest to seem straight is funny
>>3641360>same face This is what normal sadamoto boy faces look like https://www.pinterest.com/pin/171488698297627669/ So it’s off he used girl faces to design Kaworu and Shinji. Also add them being slender and yeah compared to his other characters they’re very androgynous. Like with only the slightest changes they’ve been used to make Haruko and Makoto
>>3641356Is Artemis and Shinji, Luna.
>>3641246>>3641254>>3641256>effeminate trannyShinji bullying
>have normal and ant-sized versions of the same imageI really need to clean up my Eva folder for once
why did shinji cut off all of his friends?
>>3641460Because he became Anno. Also, imagine Kaworu singing Somebody that I used to Know after Shinji left.
>>3641461BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CUT ME OFFMAKE OUT LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED AND THAT WE WERE NOTHINGAND I DON'T EVEN NEED YOUR LOVEBUT YOU TREAT ME LIKE A STRANGER AND THAT FEELS SO ROUGH
>>3641459>Shaun husbanding Anime
>>3641461>Somebody that I used to KnowShinji truly is somebody Kaworu used to know now
>>3641460Tbf he only cut off Asuka, and honestly who could blame him.
>>3641461>imagine Kaworu singing Somebody that I used to Know after Shinji left.Thought the sameAlso what if Ogata was right and Shinzo left on the red world while Anno took over?
>>3641469>>3641464Would be the best cover of the song after https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CI4pZofq7DI
>>3641471He abandoned all friends to run off with Moyoco. Even Rei and Kaworu
>>3641471This kind of shitposting is very familiar...
>>3641460He got possessed. Did you notice how weird his way of behaving was after ReiQ's death?
I want to ryona Shaun
>>3641474He went off with Mari so she could teach him how to pick up schoolboys>>3641476I wasn't even shitposting(this time at least), since they did say goodbye to one another. Though I do [headcanon] them being friends in the NG world, just not super close ones since they're more focused on other people.
>>3641478>ryonaHe gets hit a ton in the manga
>>3641480Too ugly for that, shouldn’t have become Anno
>>3641460Is what you do when you become an adult, kidnow keep posting cute boys and shut up
>>3641485Only sociopaths like Anno cut off lifelong friends to be cool
>>3641485But when I do that, I know I'm just an asshole but I'm not so sure Anno was aware about itAlso didn't someone posted here a tweet mentions Anno saying he didn't have friends?
>>3641488Anno is a sociopath, hence EOE miyamura rumors
Which YouTube cover of “somebody that i used to know” fits Kaworu best
>>3641487>>3641490I buy the idea that Anno is a bit sociopathic, but I think he does have a (possibly misguided) idea that Evangelion (and he by proxy) have had a negative effect on fans of Evangelion, opposite of what he intended (or at least claims he intended, with the "leave your comfort zone and go live your life message").
>>3641461>imagine Kaworu singing Somebody that I used to Know after Shinji leftI can see ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qstIEHDVRg
>>3641492Which still is sociopathic, instead of caring for friends and family and everyone improving together, you ditch them to try and be cool“Not my luke” kind of response to Anno possessed Shinji
>Somebody That I Used to Know came out 10 years ago
>>3641496Never has there been an iconic couple where it’s more fitting
>>3641487>>3641488>>3641490>>3641492>>3641495Yes just like all japanese adults; you shouldn't be so surprised about this
>>3641495I somehow imagine you missed my point, but as an artist myself, I can sympathize with what Anno did, even if I think he's a dick and disliked 3.0+1.0
>>3641502Maybe modern Japan has a lot wrong with it and they shouldn’t be shilling it or salaryman culture
>>3641502Jap work culture is fucked up, but honestly I didn't even get that vibe from the ending. The other pilots just aren't bound by fate to simp for him anymore, there's no reason they can't still be friends.
>>3641506For that Japan woud need to admit they have a problem to begin with and Anno is the kind of person, even from way back in the 90's and before who believes all of Japan's problems are external and come from losing the war only. Just like any other japanese creator who likes to shill salaryman life. Their motto is always "it's your fault if you are harassed or die from over work and depression, not our honorable superior nippon ways"Even now he said 3.0+1.0 is a movie made for the japanese only in that amazon interview
>>3641510>there's no reason they can't still be friendsKaworu and Rei are dead
>>3641514They're immortal gods and they seemed to be fine in the last scene.
>>3641517Yes they'll reincarnate somedayThe last scene is Shinji's imagination. If they weren't you would see some kind of emotion in his face
>>3641514Wasn't there a doujin where Shinji fucks ghost Kaworu in a planetarium or something
>>3641522>If they weren't you would see some kind of emotion in his faceNot him but salary!Shinji moved on from them. They didn't show Shinji's face during the part when he was looking at Rei and Kaworu anyway, so it's not like we could see what kind of emotion he was feeling in that moment until Mari came.
>>3641527>Not him but salary!Shinji moved on from themYes and that doesn't contradict them being dead and this being Shinji's final goodbye to them in his mind before going away
>>3641528But how do we know it's his mind? Shinji running away with Mari into the real world is Anno being meta and telling his audience that he's moving on. That's why he leaves everyone behind and lets them live their own lives in peace.
>>3641529He wakes up in the middle of his transition from the anti universe to the real world. The last piece of anything related to the world of Eva and everyone he knew then is the DSS choker, when Mari takes it off they both run away together for real >Anno being meta and telling his audience that he's moving onBy showing Shinji that is himself and the audience leaving all these other characters behind, in other words, you won't see them again, you only have the memories of what you enjoyed about them when you experienced Eva. Now they are gone
>>3641530>>3641529God what a shallow self insert making your ending you and your bimbofied wife.I can’t imagine moyoco was happy with a personality less bimbo being her standin
>>3641511It’s funny how the beauty upgrade for salary involves drawing him like Shinji, not Anno
>>3641530To me, the last scene is full meta. Salary Shinji is no longer Shinji, just Anno. He wakes up in Ube (Anno's hometown) with the DSS choker and looks at what's left of the old Eva universe (Asuka, Rei and Kaworu) for the last time before Mari (Moyoco) arrives, takes the DDS choker (Eva) away, and leaves with him hand in hand to the real world.
>>3641538So Shinji is not part of old Eva? Where does Shinji as a character go then? Some explanation has to exist to justify the meta in the actual story, and that is Shinji the character, leaving as well
>>3641538>He wakes up in Ube (Anno's hometown)Is that true?
>>3641539Shinji was replaced by Anno completely, he's gone.>>3641540Yes, the last scene takes place in Ubeshinkawa Station in Ube. Anno was born in Ube.https://twitter.com/5thRMEL/status/1441699736793206790
>>3641541God what a narcissist
>>3641539Ogata thinks the real Shinji stayed trapped in the Anti-Universe and that adult Shinji is not him.
>>3641540Yes, anon. The station became a popular evafag attraction in japan because of it.https://twitter.com/nyamo666_ZC33S/status/1379747180160802818https://twitter.com/5thRMEL/status/1441695319108976646https://twitter.com/slimshadyta/status/1425875872251219970https://twitter.com/yurinokoichi/status/1397160425523802112https://twitter.com/5thRMEL/status/1444531356541722630
>>3641543There was fan art of that. Can you share? Or share her quote
>>3641539>Where does Shinji as a character go then?I get why all the characters physically grew up to show that they'd escaped from their predestined fates and could find their own lives and all, but it really doesn't make sense in Shinji's case. Asuka is mentally a 28 year old woman, Rei possibly is too since she seems to have been a fusion of Rei II and ReiQ, Kaworu has been through who knows how many loops. But Shinji is still mentally just a 14 year old kid. If you take the ending scene to be literal and not just a meta send off, then he's some stunted manchild salaryman. Kinda funny when you think about it.
>>3641547Not him but I found this.>TV版の最後はシンジが皆さんに「おめでとう」と言われ「ありがとう」と言って終わる。でも今回は、自分だけが作品世界に残されている感じがあって……>Ogata: In the TV series finale, everyone tells Shinji "Congratulations" and he responds saying "Thank you" and then it ends. But this time around, I feel like I'm the only one who has been left behind in the Eva/fictional world...I guess she's saying this because she didn't voice adult Shinji.
>>3641550>Asuka is mentally a 28 year old womanShe acts like a womanchild in 3.0+1.0.
>>3641543>>3641553There was also that about her and Tsurumaki talking and thinking this Eva is ok but they kind of regret calling this one the definitive ending
>>3641554Not really. Her stuff with Shinji is just her needing to tell him that he's shit for not helping her. Shinji is part of the reason she became an angel after all, her man problem here. It's not like she had no life, she even created a bond with Kensuke all this time and let Mari put her boobs in her face whenever she wanted to
>>3641556Yeah I'm sure she bonded with kensuke a whole lot
>>3641556>Shinji is part of the reason she became an angel after allThe angel had already infected her before Shinji even got in his Eva.>she even created a bond with Kensuke all this time and let Mari put her boobs in her faceAnd despite all of that, she said she felt alone.
>>3641561But Shinji didn't help her back then, being an angel is tied with memories of Shinji. She tells him before leaving what she needed to say and that's it>And despite all of that, she said she felt alone.And? She didn't feel alone because Shinji wasn't there, she felt alone because of her own asspull backstory
>>3641555>Going back to the story, you said that you didn't feel like "Eva" was over, but how did you feel when you saw the word "The End" at the end of "Shin"?>Ogata That's right. Rather than saying "it's over," ...... I first saw "Shin" at the first preview, and I had a chance to talk with Kazuya Tsurumaki (the director) for a while at the preview. At that time, Mr. Tsurumaki and I were arguing that it would have been better if we hadn't included the word "The End" (laughs). (laughs) We talked about how we thought this Eva was fine, but that it would be good to have a world that was different from this one, and that there were many more possibilities. Oh, but please don't get your hopes up, okay? (Laughs) I had some work to do later and we parted ways, but in reality, it would be great if we could have a launch party and talk about all kinds of things at such a place, but I'm not sure if it would be possible under the current circumstances.
>>3641543>>3641541Shinji is anakin, Salary is VaderHe dies in anti-universe and Anno resurrects his corpse
>>3641562But she was already infected. Shinji helping her wouldn't make the infection disappear. She can be mad at Shinji for not doing anything, but why would she blame him for the angel infection when there was nothing he could've done to stop it? Not to mention it's been 14 years... she wasn't even mad at him because he destroyed the world, which would've made more sense tbqh.>She didn't feel alone because Shinji wasn't thereI know, it's her own asspull backstory and lack of development in 3.0+1.0 that makes her look like a womanchild. In 3.0, it seemed like she had finally learned that she could rely on others and not make her own self-worth depend on her status as a pilot, but then we cut to 3.0+1.0 and find out she's the same insecure kid who believes she's alone and her only place in the world is Eva.
>>3641570She didn't really grow up because of the curse and programming.
>>3641478Dumb question but why? His anger issues?
>>3641491An orchestra version maybe?
>>3641296>t. projecting tranny
>>3641460He did the same thing in NGE, he was always a little ungrateful turd.
>>3641510Why would the other pilots want to be friends with Shinji though? He sucks and their lives became so much better as soon as he was gone.
>>3641593Their lives became better because the Evas and loops were gone.
Who started the loops?
>>3641596Me, I started them
>>3641593Because he's cute
>>3641570>but then we cut to 3.0+1.0 and find out she's the same insecure kidHer entire character arc and development got reset in this movie, she was handled the worst out of all the pilots by far.
>>3641596Canonically, Shinji and Gendo as they are the two characters in charge of instrumentality.
Was Yui really inside Shinji?
>>3641595The whole looping Eva story shit started because of Shinji in the first place. Shinji actively made their lives worse.By not saving Asuka, she got contaminated with Angel sperm and is now some freak that can't age.By guilt tripping Rei into sacrificing herself so he won't have to pilot the Eva, she blew herself up and got eaten by an angel.By guilt tripping Kaworu into acting as his savior, he killed himself for Shinji's sake over and over again.With Shinji out of the picture, Rei/Kaworu/Asuka can finally be free from him and live happy fulfilling lives.
>>3641606Yes she was literally physically inside shinji this whole time, hiding from her weird wifeguy husband and making shinji lust after kaworu's massive angel dick
>>3641610>By not saving Asuka, she got contaminated with Angel spermShe got contaminated way before Shinji got inside his own Eva.>By guilt trippingShinji didn't guilt trip Rei or Kaworu, he never asked them to die for him. They chose to sacrifice themselves of their own will because they loved him.
>>3641606>Fuyutsuki says Yui is inside Unit 01 in 3.0>Gendo says Yui is inside the Golgotha Object>Gendo realizes Yui is inside Shinji>Shinji notices Yui was inside him all this timeHow many Yuis are there in Rebuild?
>>3641612>She got contaminated way before ShinjiNope, just as Asuka herself says in this movie, she could've been saved had Shinji done something. Just like with Toji. Shinji failed both of them by choosing to do nothing.>Shinji didn't guilt trip Rei or KaworuHe did. He literally ran away because he didn't want to pilot the Eva so Rei had to step up to the plate in 3.0, and in 3.0 he AGAIN refused to take responsibility for his mistakes so Kaworu had to step up to the plate.
>>3641620The manga has a different philosophy though so don’t apply too much to Eva
>>3641620>just as Asuka herself says in this movie, she could've been saved had Shinji done somethingAsuka didn't say anything like that. Shinji admitted he didn't help her or kill her because he didn't want to take responsibility, and she agreed. That's it. She had already been infected before Shinji was given orders to attack Bardiel anyway.>He literally ran away because he didn't want to pilot the EvaHe didn't want to pilot the Eva because his father was using him and almost made him kill one his friends with his own hands. There's no way he could've known an angel would attack on the same day he left.>he AGAIN refused to take responsibility for his mistakesHe didn't want to do anything because every time he got in the Eva, everything went to shit and because his former guardian put a deathly bomb choker on him. It's ironic but if Shinji hadn't been moved by Kaworu's hope, they wouldn't have fallen into Gendo's trap and Kaworu wouldn't have died that day.
Why didn't one of the Longinus spears turn into Cassius in 3.0? The last movie implied the spears can change their shape depending on if their wielder is hopeful or in despair.