Borger EditionPrevious Edition: >>3613980
>>3615073i'm wondering why i even come to these threads
>>3615075it made me chuckle a little but i deleted cuz i realized it's technically gore lol
>>3615062>>3615063>>3614980Can anyone translate these?
>>3615076damn, i missed it
>>3615069>Karl is the opFuck off with this abomination stop shilling him
>>3615081it's pretty mild but i'd rather not get bannedhttps://twitter.com/_cutiemoca_/status/1416741283767361542?s=20
>>3615086ITT Karl cops a “delicate feeling”
>>3615086I don't care kaworu eating a burger is funny
>>3615086its just, kaworu eatign a borger anon...
>finally get Kawoshinpilled>start looking up doujins>a lot of them are about the mangaverseLiterally the worst Kawoshin dynamic, I don't get the hype.Also has Shinji's nip VA done any BL work or is it forbidden since she's a grill?
>>3615147>Also has Shinji's nip VA done any BL work or is it forbidden since she's a grill?Don't think so, but we have Kaworu's VA getting railed
Manga Kawoshin is cute
>>3615203They both embody damaged goods... which is in fact cute.
Tetsu sabi was amazing. It’s fun to know her kawoshin was a rehearsal for a mangaka career
>>3615218Eh. Yandere Kaworu still sucks
>>3615078next page, pretty sure it's something about kaworu having a huge cock
>>3615147Really? Almost everything I've seen is mostly Q stuff>>3615200>Kaworu's VA getting railedWasn't that some other dude in the end?
>>3615200basedalso link pls
>>3615147>Also has Shinji's nip VA done any BL work or is it forbidden since she's a grill?She has because I remember back when I liked danganronpa that there was audio from some game or audio drama
>>3615272By that I mean that it was posted in danganronpa tags, not that the game/audio drama was related to it
>>3615147Stfu qworufag we know you're a veteran
>>3615219Fine then if that isn’t your cup of tea, then her 90p interquel on the manga with ghost Karl, and a Shaun that verges on yandre
I had a weird dream mashing DS9 (years since I watched) and Kaworu, he was there and was a friendly Founder/changling that defected, I think they wanted him to lead an expedition to free a planet or something because the dominion wouldn’t have the heart to fight him if they knew it was him
>>3615282I swear I'm a newfag here, I didn't realize there was such controversy over "Karl" till now. My issue with the manga dynamic is that I don't like Shinji disliking or being tsundere to Kaworu, I vastly prefer the OG dynamic most.
>>3615349A religious civil war is being fought over which Kaworu is best
>>3615349>tsundereIt’s pretty cool desu, there are few male tsunderes and even fewer tsundere for a guy outside of BL
>>3615366men have died for less
>>3615349My issue with karlshaun is both the way Shinji and Kaworu were written in the manga, specially Kaworu. However while I dislike Sadamoto and his choices the fandom made Karl a loveable autist in their works so I still like him as some parallel universe version I just ignore the manga. The "controversy" these days comes from two faggots that keep replying to themselves in hopes of getting other people to join (sometimes it works). We already know there's people that just don't like Karl at all or that 100% love Sadamoto's story here we've been over this years ago.
Part 1>[Jealousy] >Asuka is staying over at the Class Rep's house tonight, and Misato-san won't be coming home because of work. >So I took this rare opportunity to invite Kaworu-kun to sleep over at my place.>We started off the night watching one of those film festival movies, but...>It's supposed to be an action movie, no one told me there would be this kind of intense kiss scene in it!!>Kaworu: ...This is what you lilin call "kissing" right? It's an especially intimate way to express your love with a partner you're close with.>Kaworu: I've never kissed anyone before, I wonder what it feels like?>So even Kaworu-kun has interest in these kinds of topics...!>Shinji: Oh...well actually, I've done it with Asuka once before!>Shinji: Well, rather than calling it a kiss, it just ended up happening and we were partly messing around too.>Shinji: I was really nervous for a split second, but once our lips met I didn't really think much of it!>The truth is I was really nervous, but it's okay if I show off a little in front of Kaworu-kun, right?>Kaworu: .....I see.....>Huh!? He didn't react the way I thought he would. If it was Toji and the others, hearing that would've definitely pumped them up...
>>3615376Part 2>[An Unassuming Invitation]>Kaworu: I'd like to try kissing Shinji-kun, too.>Shinji: W-What are you saying, Kaworu-kun!?>Kaworu: Well, I've never kissed anyone before. If I'm going to try it, I'd like that person to be with you Shinji-kun. I love you, after all...>Shinji: Hwah...>Shinji: W-We can't! There's no way two guys can kiss each other!>Kaworu: Why not? If you could kiss that girl who was just messing around with you, then you should be able to kiss someone who genuinely loves you, right?>Shinji: But it's still weird. Kaworu-kun and I are...friends, aren't we?!>Kaworu: Does that mean you aren't friends with that girl you kissed?>Shinji: A-Asuka is my friend too, but...>Kaworu: Then why aren't you able to kiss me...? Even though I love you so much...>Shinji: W-Well, I...>Kaworu: If you can't kiss me, then...>Kaworu: Maybe you don't love me back as much as I thought you did...>Shinji: T-That's not true! I love you too, Kaworu-kun!>Kaworu: It's fine, just ignore what I said...I don't want to force you into anything you don't want.>Kaworu: You'd hate being kissed by me, right?>Shinji: I-I wouldn't hate it at all! I can do it! I can definitely kiss you Kaworu-kun!!
>>3615377Part 3>[It's The Kiss From the Movie!]>During our sleepover, Kaworu-kun and I were watching a movie. Kaworu-kun then asked to kiss me and for some reason we're now kissing...>I can't just ignore a request from my precious friend, plus I think Kaworu-kun is just acting out of basic curiosity like Asuka was>In other words, I shouldn't think too hard about it. After all, we're both boys...yeah, we're both boys so there's no reason to worry about it!>Shinji: -Pwah!! There, I did it! See? There's nothing special about a little kiss!!>Kaworu: Thanks, Shinji-kun...I'm glad I got to experience such a wonderful thing.>Shinji: S-Sure...as long as you're happy, Kaworu-kun>Kaworu: What a beautiful thing, to be able to share our feelings by putting our lips together...>Kaworu: I want to give you my thanks, but I don't think any words would be enough to convey my feelings properly>Shinji: Huh? Your thanks?>Shinji: Wha- Mmn! Hey, Kaworu-kun..Wa..Hah..>Shinji: A-Ah..don't lick...Hya-! Your tongue! Kawo- your tongue is...! Mnnn
>>3615378Part 4>[Phase Two]>Kaworu-kun's kisses were really intense...Aah, being handled and licked like that...>I had no idea there was more to kissing than just putting your lips together>I thought he was going to eat my mouth...>(Gasp)>Oh no...What do I do, I got hard down there!>I-It can't be helped I guess, It's just a normal physiological response!>*Metaphorical Representation>Uu..this is all Kaworu-kun's fault, it's because Kaworu-kun kissed me like in that foreign film...!>Shinji: Sorry, but I have to go to the bathroom...>Kaworu: Can I come with you?>Shinji: Huh!?>Kaworu: Sorry, but I want to take care of this...can you teach me how?
>>3615366>gets Shinji to blush instantly >gets to hold hands with Shinji>gets to bathe with Shinji>is so charming that it's Shinji who seeks him out and waits for him just to see Kaworu again >gets Shinji to fall in love with him and confess that he loved Kaworu>calms Shinji down instantly just by showing up in EOE>gets to kiss him in NGE2The Chad original anime Kaworu vs. The virgin Q and Karl
>>3615398You forgot>such a chad that Karl, Q, and his numerous clones in other Anime only exist to profit from his massive popularity
>>3615400Too bad he reincarnated into Final!Kaworu
>>3615398https://youtu.be/1xAhetv3mFU?t=126Oft forgotten American TV English dub Kaworu is the best version of animeworu at that.Chilling and so so very hot.
>>3615401With Mari's existence you can make it so Rebuild NGE and NGE are different universes anyways
>>3615407With Mari and walking meta metaphor Shikinami
>>3615381Thanks for the translation based Anon!
>>3615407Mari and Shinji would have actually been a semi acceptable couple had it been the real Shinji and not Anno’s salaryman, Hetero manly self insert Shinji’s so effeminate and submissive that it would almost be okay to pair him with an immortal, shape shifting, sexually aggressive, night hag stalker 30 years his senior since it would still be an abnormal couple and Shinji the bottom bitch
>>3615398>>3615399Can translatorchad translate this?
>>3615457It's been translated before, check the archive
>>3615458Whereabouts? I checked the same image on fireden and had no luck finding a translation when it was posted in May.
>>3615398Don't forget:>tells Shinji upfront that he loves him >has more blatantly homoerotic official art It's actually kind of sad that the 90s were so much gayer than now.
>>3615481Here: >>3605138 >>3605139
>>3615482The last gasp of 21st century gayness in Japan is from the homonationalists
>「間宮千昭は油断すると渚カヲルになる」> Yoshiyuki Sadamoto, who was in charge of the character design for The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, publicly stated that “Chiaki Mamiya would turn into Kaworu Nagisa if he wasn't careful”, and that his hair color was originally supposed to be gray.Let’s be honest, he ships them
>>3615499Also the source on Chiaki being an older Karl: ニュータイプ編『時をかける少女 NOTE BOOK』角川書店、2006年、p.90.
>>3615258>cuck muzzlescringe as fuck
>>3615509face masks have been part of nip culture for decades, troll.
>>3615403he sounds like a massive faggot
>>3615499 Apart from his same face problem after being surrounded by kaworufags for years and all those people telling him to draw kaworu for them he probably ended up liking the pairing a bit more desu
>>3615069more like kawaru edition
>>3615553Karl and Shaun are oddly pretty by his male character standards. Drew them more like his bishoujo characters but with shortened hair and slight tweaks
>>3615550As he should.
>>3615569I like how the drafts and everything right up to audio drama make Asuka a homophobe It would have been extra funny had she been paired with Mari
>>3615567Well Shinji was supposed to be a girl and he just erased the tits and gave him shorter hair when they decided they wanted a boy. And Kaworu was always supposed to be hot so Shinji can blush at him and shit and you only get that by making bishonen characters
>>3615403Ewww no, the only good English dub VA for Kaworu is the Netflix one
>>3615575>Well Shinji was supposed to be a girl and he just erased the tits and gave him shorter hair when they decided they wanted a boyAlso there’s Haruko, which is Karl but with a pink theme
>>3615578“You are worthy of my grace”
>>3615578Sorry about your lack of taste
>>3615584Hey, I said his voice was good for Kaworu, not the mangled script.>>3615585Sorry about yours, he's the only one who attempts to recreate Ishida's voice in English.
>>3615584>>3615586I think that’s when Khara started trying to whitewash all the edgy parts of Eva in a bid for respectability Netflix voices are better tho
>>3615403>>3615578As a filthy ESL, watching that and thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NKpF_HgKS0No eng dub sounds good for Kaworu desu Maybe Jerry Jewel if he had more emotion and less creepiness and I feel like while kind of decent, the guy from the netflix version sounds good only because his audio is new. He still sounds like he's voicing any other character and didn't have any real direction for Kaworu's character
>>3615583Right that too
>>3615589NGE diverged to Rebuild whereas the Manga diverged to FlCL and The Girl Who leapt through time as loops. What other Sadamoto verse loops did I miss?
>>3615594Also reason one is a girl and the other a boy in subsequent loops is probably Shaun’s fault
>>3615586>>3615588I just like lispy Kyle Kaworu. It brings some color to the character.
Was he a Karl clone or merely a Ryo clone?
>>3615618No, he's a Bakura clone
>>3615381Part 5>[I'm So Fucked Up]>K: Sorry about this, Shinji-kun. I have no personal experience with this sort of thing so it's a big help having you teach me. Do you usually take care of it in the bathroom?>S: Y-Yeah...I can get it done when I'm by myself, but it might be too narrow in here with two people...>S: You just take it out like this and touch it until you come...D-Don't stare too much at it, Kaworu-kun!>K: I see, so it's done in a way where you can get pleasure by stimulating it from the outside.>K: I think I get it now, can I try?>S: Huh? Oh, sure...>S: Hyaa!? Kawo...W-What're you...Aah...>K: Are you okay? Am I doing it the right way, Shinji-kun?>S: I-I didn't mean...to touch mine...Kawo-... Uuah.. >K: Am I doing something wrong? That's weird, I'm pretty sure I'm touching it like the way you were just now. Should I be a bit rougher, then?>S: Wha- Wait, Wait, I'll...! Haaaauuuu....>K: I'm so sorry Shinji-kun, I guess I didn't do a good enough job.>K: I'll try harder next time, so please cheer up...
>>3615401I just don't buy that this total Chad became Qworu, the latter is far too reserved and almost shy to be the same. This smooth motherfucker would've reached across and held Shinji's hand during their heart to heart prior to piloting Eva 13 if he were there.
>>3615811autism be damned my boy can work a cock
>>3615811I love this angel boy so much
>>3615841Sauce nao can’t find, what’s the Twitter artist?
Karlshaun is the worst kawoshin. Sadamoto can't draw women that aren't anorectic and animators have to give them at least a few extra inches. Fuck karlfags
>>3615814He became more "human" (autistic) with each loop.
>>3615868>Implying Karl is endstage Kaworu
Why didn't Qworu use his angel powers in 3.0?
>>3615872Because of the dss choker or something. Idk. The writing is a mess.
>>3615868But he was already human. He needed to become autistic just so Anno could say the only valid autism is his
>>3615872>>3615873My theory is that everything in the Rebuilds is Shinji's reinterpretation of the events of NGE. His recreation of the world after instrumentality. It's not actually Kaworu in the rebuilds then, it's Shinji's interpretation of Kaworu: including in 3.0 + 1.0, that's Shinji recontextualizing his relationship with Kaworu, framing Kaworu as possessive, and himself "saving" Kaworu from dependency.
>>3615876You're giving these movie far too much credit than they deserve, everyone is more "possessive" and revolves more around Shinji because the Rebuilds overly focus on him.
>>3615874By more human, I mean that he showed more emotions / became more emotional.
>>3615872>>3615873This I never understood. They offer no lucid explanation as to how he was incapable of stopping Unit 13 before Shinji could fuck things up, or what him "becoming the 13th" could've meant in that situation. Being cut off from the controls isn't even an excuse here because Kaworu has never been required to sync with the Evas in order to manipulate them, as was proven again by him brute-forcing 13 into stabbing itself with the spears after it awakened. The only plausible answer would be that he was overwhelmed by Shinji in strength, which is retarded.
>>3615874He's an angel nonnie
>>3615878He already showed emotions in ep 24. One freak out because he's going to fail again doesn't really mean he's showing more emotion when most of the time in 3.0 he's either looking away, covering his face with his hand and covering his eyes with his hair
>>3615882And his emotion in 3.0 doesn't even come from being Adam because in ep 24 he had already accepted who he was and why he existed, if anything all these "new" emotions are the product of him becoming a Shinjicentric bitch like everyone else in Rebuild
>>3615879All you said is why I always asked if 'becoming the 13th' means he suddenly is less powerful or something since he clearly was nerfed for RebuildAnd if for some reason Shinji was more powerful than him there the only explanation would be to say Shinji was an alien too but he's a human in 3.0+1.0 (except for later when he becomes Buddha)
>>3615879I thought the reason was because he was in pain by being cast down to the 13th or something
>>3615879The only thing that comes to my mind is the DSS choker. If he used his powers to manipulate Eva 13 before Shinji pulled the spears, the choker would've recognized him as an angel and activated.>as was proven again by him brute-forcing 13 into stabbing itself with the spears after it awakenedI'm guessing he used his powers then because the choker had already activated and he had nothing left to lose at that point. The choker was going to kill him anyway.
>>3615889>the choker would've recognized him as an angel and activatedI thought he was actively delaying his death by manipulating the choker. Wouldn't it explode instantly if those exist to kill the pilots in case of them triggering an impact?
>>3615886>'becoming the 13th' means he suddenly is less powerfulI mean seriously, how was Kaworu eclipsed by Shinji's sheer retardation but managed to incapacitate the thing after it literally evolved to God-mode? Shit doesn't add up.
>>3615891>I thought he was actively delaying his death by manipulating the chokerHe was probably doing that but it didn't stop the choker from killing him in the end. If he had used his powers to stop Eva 13, he could've delayed his death for while like he did in 3.0 but the choker would've still killed him.
>>3615889>The only thing that comes to my mind is the DSS choker. If he used his powers to manipulate Eva 13 before Shinji pulled the spears, the choker would've recognized him as an angel and activated.But doesn't Asuka utilize her fucked up angel eye's power or something later in the movie? I don't remember much of Q, but if this is true for Kaworu then it should also be true for Asuka.
>>3615898Yes, and the DSS choker activated and was going to kill her but Original Shikinami did something to the choker.Let me find that part of the script.
>>3615898>>3615902>Asuka: Release all limiters. Backdoor code 999!(Asuka tears off the eyepatch. Her left eye, glowing blue, is exposed; and the wide-open eye is penetrated by a small black pillar emerging.Asuka, bending backwards, pulls out the sealing pillar with both hands. She throws it at the wall.The DSS Choker at the base of her neck starts up.)>Aoba: Pattern blue! 9th Angel reaction present in Nerv Headquarters!>Mari: Princess! You're going to use the Angel's power?>Asuka: The Angel blood...Transfuse it all!(...)(When Eva 13 seizes Eva-02 -- which has returned to normal -- by the neck, its four glowing eyes turn towards Asuka.)>Asuka: Wasn't it single-entry?(Eva 13 extends the second set of arms that were folded over its chest. Its left hand lunges like a sword and penetrates Eva-02's chest. Eva-02 vomits blood. The halo vanishes.)(...)(Eva-02 interior. Asuka in the entry plug, surveying her environs. When she faces forward, a naked female is standing up.)>Asuka: A Shikinami Type... My original?(Bending her knees and crouching down, Original Shikinami brings her face close.)>Shikinami Type: The last Eva is in the image of God. You, too, need but receive me with love. Now, come along.(Asuka grabs her own throat and she tears off the plugsuit.)>Asuka: Sucks for you, huh?>Shikinami Type: Heh.(She reaches for Asuka's DSS Choker -- which is advancing in its response -- and embraces her.)>Shikinami Type: There's no point, dummy.(Original Asuka has turned deep red, her body converted into energy.) >Asuka: Ah...(She pulls on the face of Asuka, who has been Angelized blue. The choker that was left behind inside [the entry plug] explodes.)My bad, Original Shikinami didn't do anything to the choker. She did some weird shit to Asuka and took her to Unit 13 with her. The choker still exploded inside Asuka's empty entry plug.
Why didn't Asuka just fucking tell Shinji why he shouldn't pull the spears instead of just wailing on him with no explanation? Why didn't Shinji just listen to Kaworu? Why didn't Kaworu properly stop him?God, the Rebuilds are so fucking contrived and shitty, what the fuck happened.
>>3615916Oh, okay then, thanks anon. I also just realized that Shinji's choker spawns at the minus space beach not only because of meta reasons, but because he wouldn't have been able to cast the mommyhax buff during the Gendo fight, kek.
>>3615917>God, the RebuildsThere’s your why answer
>>3615917>Why didn't Asuka just fucking tell Shinji why he shouldn't pull the spears instead of just wailing on him with no explanation?I'm certain this is just shit writing>Why didn't Shinji just listen to Kaworu?Because Kaworu practically told him it was their only opportunity available to turn things back to normal, and Shinji was also desperate to be redeemed in Misato's and everyone else's eyes.>Why didn't Kaworu properly stop him?Because he handicapped himself by wearing the fucking collar apparently. If Kaworu had been in full control of preventing Shinji from mishandling the Eva no impact nor awakening would've happened.
>>3615931>Because Kaworu practically told him it was their only opportunity available to turn things back to normal, and Shinji was also desperate to be redeemed in Misato's and everyone else's eyes.Though I do realize how contrived this is. I don't see why he would trust Kaworu to know that the spears were going to fix everything but not believe him when he says that the spears were tampered with
>>3615931>Because he handicapped himself by wearing the fucking collar apparentlyWould Unit 13 have awakened if Kaworu took control of it with his powers considering it was one of the surviving Adams and Kaworu has the soul of Adam?
>>3615889>>3615939>puts on the choker in case Eva 13 awakens, can't do anything to stop Eva 13 because of the choker, Shinji pulls the wrong spears anyway, the choker starts upvs>doesn't put on the choker, is able to stop Shinji and control Eva 13 with his powers, Eva 13 (Adams survivor) awakens because it recognizes Adam's soul, now Eva 13 and Kaworu need to be destroyed to stop the awakening and impactIt seems like a lose-lose situation to me. The spears were his only hope but they were switched without him knowing lmao.
>>3615868>>3615874>autisticWhere were you when you realized Karlshaun are the true sequel and final versions of all the Kawoshin time loops
>>3615939Unit 13 only awakened when it ate the angel core thingy, so he probably wasn't the sole trigger.
Just imagine it as the final Eva: a degenerated ancient world, with deteriorating versions of Kaworu and Shinji, eroded by endless loops.And still, it’s capable of beauty
>>3615939>>3615944Also, I'm pretty sure Mk.6 was an Adam too?
>>3615944Unit 13's transformation started before it ate the core, though. Its shoulder pylons exploded and a red core-like thing started to grow from them. But it's true that the final step to Unit 13's awakening happened after it ate the angel core.
>>3615946Was Mark 06 an Adams survivor or one of Seele's Adams? Because apparently 3.0+1.0 confirmed Seele created 4 artificial Adams.
>>3615944>>3615947Reminder that the angel core was made of little Reis.
Unit 13 awakened after Adam ate Lilith out
>>3615955And it all ended when the God of the new world, Mari ate all Adams
>>3615964Didn’t Khara post a sound recording for all pilots? And hers was very animalistic, guttural and sounded like an animal scarfing things down?
>>3615964She ate the Marks who were piloted by Rei clones. Mari is ruthless.
>>3615964>all AdamsShe didn't eat Unit 13
So wait, which angel number is Kaworu and what did he mean by "becoming" the 13th angel? Didn't he already know he was an angel?
>>3616025>which angel number is KaworuHe's the first>what did he mean by "becoming" the 13th angel?Idk>Didn't he already know he was an angel?He knew
>>3615069GendoYui won the /Eva/ bowl by making their son become Buddha,Straight and a Sigma Male. It is their Movie after all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOzTkLRqnJ0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uhh62MUEic
Can someone get access to no's porn and download it for me? Pretty pleasehttps://twitter.com/nonomo__/status/1419200616853766144
>>3616031Wait, wasn't he the 17th angel in the anime?
>>3616088Technically he was also the first because he had Adam's soul
>>3616099I am pretty sure most of the adam shit was retcon desu. Where the broadcast version of the anime was more raw and incoherent, EoE and the directors cut of the anime add a bunch of stuff because nips got mad that the show didn't make sense.
>reading tvtropes for Rebuild >all this insistence that KawoShin is full of hoyay and even more romantic than all other canonsThe coping is annoying. Their relationship is cute in the Rebuilds, but nowhere near as UST or romantically charged as the original anime.
>>3616085>SigmaSalary man bitchboys are the complete opposite of sigma, they don’t live too long either You know who’s an unconventional chad who marches to the beat of his own drum?
>>3616101Yeah the Director's Cut added in Kaworu being Adam
new btw >>3616137